1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Again I said what I said of the broadcast, I 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: had no problem saying it. I stand by it. But 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: what happened after that not so great. Good morning everyone, 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Monday but Tuesday edition this week of 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Fair Territory. I am Ken Rosenthal. I am coming to 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: you live from San Diego, where tonight I will be part 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: of the broadcast for Game three of the Division Series 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: between the San Diego Padres and the Los Angeles Dodgers. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: We have what has been so far an extremely entertaining playoff, 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: an extremely entertaining postseason, all four series right now, all 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: four Division series are tied at one game apiece. What 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: that means is that the lower seeds in each case 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: now have home field advantage going forward. It's the best 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: two of three, with the next two games at the 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: lower seeds ballparks. So what I want to do today 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: is go through each of the series kind of in 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: a brief way, but rank them in order of which 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: higher seed has the most pressure on it. So we're 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: gonna go one through four, actually four through one. We'll 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: do this more dramatically. We'll count backwards and we'll kind 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: of dissect each series along these lines, which of these 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: teams has the most pressure on it. Would it be 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: the Guardians, Would it be the Yankees, Would it be 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: the Dodgers, Would it be the Phillies. That's where I 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: want to go with this, because frankly, we've got some 26 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: big money teams, some high profile teams that right now, 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd say they're in trouble. They're 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: out on the brink of elimination. But it's certainly a 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: little dicey as the series shift to different sites. So 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: let's start with number four. The fourth most team under pressure. 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: I would say that in this situation would be the 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians. During the regular season, if you remember, the 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: Guardians were only seven and six against the Tigers. And 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: I know the Tigers, of course, had kind of a 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: tail of two seasons. Their first part of the season 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: was I don't know, kind of a nothing season. They 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: sold with the deadline and they came on late. We 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: all know the story by now. It's one of the 39 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: great stories in recent years in baseball. And here are 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: the Tigers on Monday doing what they've done all season, 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: winning a game behind Trek Scougel. He was brilliant, seven 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: scoreless innings. I believe it was eight strikeouts and no walks. 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's Ace like material. And then the amazing, dramatic, 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: captivating home run by Kerry Carpenter off Emmanuel Classe, only 45 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: the third off a class slider in his career. So 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: this stuff is really cool. But I don't know that 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: any of us would have said going into this series 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: that the Guardians were overwhelming favorites over the Tigers. The 49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: Tigers have played as well as any team for two 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: months now, and again the season series was relatively close. 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: So if the Guardians lose this series, it will be 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: extremely disappointed. They've had a great season. But at the 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: same time, this Tigers club, the way they go about it, 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: with their pitching chaos beyond Schooble in a short series, 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: they can pull this off. In a best of seven, 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have a hard time. So I've 57 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: got the Guardians as my fourth most team under pressure. 58 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: Third on this list, I would say, and this might 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: surprise you, is Los Angeles Dodgers. The team that spent 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: a billion dollars last offseason, isn't the one under the 61 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: most pressure. Actually, I would suggest no, because of their 62 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: pitching injuries, remember they have lost this season twelve different 63 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: starting pitchers or had twelve different starting pitchers on the il. 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: And when you are in that situation and now facing 65 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: Game three with Walker Buehler on the mound, who has 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: been inconsistent, Game four, you're likely looking at a bullpen game. 67 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. The way the Padres are playing and this 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of season that they've had, this will not be 69 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: a shocking upset if the Dodgers lose. Here. In fact, 70 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people believe the Dodgers are going to lose, 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: and believe that before the series even started. The Dodgers 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: clearly are a team that is built on their offense. 73 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: And what is going on right now. Mookie Betts is 74 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: in another postseason slump. Granted a small sample size, oh 75 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: for six, but this goes to for twenty two, and 76 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: then it goes to three for forty four if you 77 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: go back in other postseason series. Mookie acknowledged yesterday that 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: he's feeling it. His manager, Dave Roberts said he's feeling it. 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: And of course it's not just Mookie Betts in a 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: tough situation. It's Freddy Freeman. Freddy Freeman is physically compromised 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: right now. He had to come out of Game two 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: because of his ankle. So two of their big three, 83 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Freeman and Betts, are not who they are supposed to be. 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: They're pitching is not what they thought it was going 85 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: to be. I don't know that I can say the 86 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Dodgers are under the same kinds of pressure as the 87 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: other two teams. I'm going to mention number two on 88 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: my list. That would be the Philadelphia Phillies. And the 89 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: Phillies know they didn't spend as much as the Dodgers. 90 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: They haven't. Their payroll isn't quite as high, but it's high. 91 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: And beyond that, this is a team that has talked 92 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: all season about avenging what happened at the end of 93 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: last season when they had three games to two lead 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: on the Diamondbacks at home and could not close out 95 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: the NLCS. This has motivated them from the earliest days 96 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: of spring training, even going back to the offseason. This 97 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: is a team that has talked about wanting to do 98 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: bigger things. They win their first division titles since twenty 99 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: eleven this season, and yet here they are against the 100 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: Mets kind of the Tigers of the National League, clearly 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: more talented at the same time, They're the hot club 102 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: right now. And the Mets are going home to the 103 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: City Field, which will be raucus, which is always anti Phillies, 104 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: and the Phillies need to kind of wake up here. 105 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: This is a team that offensively has been streaky and inconsistent. Now, 106 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: this is not the end of the Phillies window if 107 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: they don't win this year. They've got four players Wheeler, Nola, Turner, 108 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: and Harper who are signed for at least three more seasons. 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: Real Muto and Schwarber have one more year each. Yes, 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: most of their stars are in their early thirties, so 111 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: this is not going to go on for and the 112 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: clock is ticking. But again, this was supposed to be 113 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: the year that this team kind of did some big 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: things after its disappointment of last season. All right, So 115 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: that brings me to number one on my list of 116 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: most under pressure, and that would be the New York Yankees. 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: And why do I say that Not just because of 118 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: their three hundred million dollars payroll. I say that because 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: of the column I wrote and what a lot of 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: people thought once the Astros and Orioles were eliminated. The 121 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: Yankees have a clear path, or seemingly had a clear 122 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: path toward their first American League championship since two thousand 123 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: and nine. The rest of the field right now includes 124 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: teams from the AL Central teams with one third the 125 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: Yankees payroll at best, and the Yankees have an extremely 126 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: talented roster, There's no doubt about that. So when you 127 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: look at the fact that the Astros are out, the 128 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: postseason nemesis for the last decade, the Yankees postseason nemesis. 129 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: They're out. The Orioles are out, a team that faded, granted, 130 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: but a team that has given the Yanks these problems 131 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: in the AL East the last two years. Right now, 132 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: the Yankees opponent is the Kansas City Royals. The Royals 133 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: are no slouch, don't get me wrong. They are a 134 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: team that puts the ball in play. They've got the 135 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: highest batting average right now of any team in the postseason. 136 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: And they are a team also that has at the 137 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: top of its rotation Reagan's and Lugo and Waka and 138 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: it's a pretty impressive group. So again, no disgrace to 139 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: lose to the Royals if you're the Yankees. But here 140 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: are the Yankees in their one year of certain control 141 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: with Juan Soto kind of playing the way they've played 142 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: all season, which is not great. They have been a 143 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: team that's been sloppy at times, a team that has 144 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: been inconsistent, and you have Aaron Judge. They're big star 145 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: in this postseason so far one for seven four K's 146 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: two walks. Him and Stanton combined, those two guys are 147 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: two for sixteen. Soto's done a little bit more. The 148 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Yankees have to slug. It's like the Dodgers. They've got 149 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: to score runs and they're not doing it. And I'm 150 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: The New York Post had a great stat today on 151 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: Judge in his postseason career, in his played appearances, thirty 152 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: three point eight percent of them, more than one third, 153 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: have ended in a strikeout. That's the second highest rate 154 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: ever for a player with two hundred career postseason appearances. Granted, 155 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I always believe this, and this is true for Betts 156 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: as well as it is for Judge. Give a great 157 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: player enough chances and he's going to succeed in the postseason. 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: The problem is, in both cases, these are short series. 159 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: You have to produce in a limited window, and it's 160 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: not happening. Also, with the Yankees. Cole was not great 161 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: in Game one. Rodin was not good in Game two. 162 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: These are things that hey, you're paying these pictures a 163 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: ton of money. The two of them combined, believe their 164 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: contracts total almost five hundred million. Short sample. I know 165 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: he still got to produce. So the Yankees, to me, 166 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: are under great pressure. Here the year where a clear 167 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: path emerged for them to get to the World Series, 168 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: and right now they're in jeopardy of not getting there. 169 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: Time now for the inside dish, the part of the 170 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: show where I talk about maybe something I've written, maybe 171 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: something I've said on the broadcast. Maybe he's a trend 172 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: in the game, maybe a big star who was in 173 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: the middle of controversy again, and maybe kind of a 174 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: combination of all of those things. Today is a combination 175 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: of all of those things. The other night, on the broadcast, 176 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: in Game two of the National League Division Series between 177 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: the Padres and Dodgers, I took note, as a lot 178 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: of people did, of Manny Machado and the meeting he 179 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: called in the dugout, the emotional meeting after all of 180 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: the tumultuous circumstances that were taking place on the field, 181 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: Machado called that meeting got everyone together. It was reminiscent 182 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: of the David Ortiz meeting going back years, the hundred 183 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: pence meeting with the Giants. These things do happen from 184 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: time to time in the postseason. It kind of speaks 185 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: to the importance of the moment, and it speaks in 186 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: these cases to the leadership of the players involved. In 187 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: Machado's case, he was trying to calm down his team, 188 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: make sure they stayed folks, and having covered Manny his 189 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: entire career, having remembered all of the incidents of the past, 190 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: and we'll get into some of them in a second, 191 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: to me, this was a big step forward for him. 192 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: It was a show of leadership. And on the broadcast, 193 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: I said, over his career he has taken criticism for 194 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: being too laid back, for occasionally being a dirty player, 195 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: for being a kind of player the teams do not 196 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: want to build around. And I said also that what 197 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: he did in that dugout was the most visible and 198 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: powerful show of leadership in his career. Now I believe 199 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: that in the moment. I believe it to this day. 200 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: I wrote whole calm about this entire situation today in 201 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: the athletic. 202 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: But of course, moments after I said that, I learned 203 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: about what happened earlier in the game with Jack Flaherty 204 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: and the ball being thrown and all of the things 205 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: that have since been reported and transpired. 206 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: The information about Manny throwing the ball toward the dugout 207 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: came out in the postgame clubhouse when Jack Flawherty was 208 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: speaking to reporters. We asked Manny about it. I was 209 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: in the Padres clubhouse at the time, and it became 210 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: a big thing. And then the next day, this was Monday, 211 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: during the off day in the National League Division Series, 212 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts said the ball was thrown actually at him. 213 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: It was unsettling, it was disrespectful. The Dodgers sent video 214 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: to Major League Baseball. And here we are in the 215 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: middle of another Manny postseason to do Now I mentioned 216 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: the past with Manny. This goes back many years. There 217 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: were situations, of course, the Dustin Pedroia play where he 218 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: was accused of a dirty slide. There were situations where 219 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: he had a bench clearing incident with Josh Donaldson, another 220 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: one with Jordan Ventura, a number of things early in 221 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: his career, and of course the twenty eighteen National League 222 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: Championship Series was his classic heel turn. He was doing 223 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: something seemingly every night to tick off the opposite in 224 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: thirty kinds of things, and it was just the low 225 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: point of his career. Didn't stop them that offseason from 226 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: getting his three hundred million dollar free agent contract. Also 227 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: that off season, I was the one who conducted the 228 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: Johnny Hustle interview for Fox Sports, and I'll play you 229 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: a clip now. I know it's memorable for a lot 230 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: of people, but let's refresh our memories by showing exactly 231 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: how that went down. How would you explain it? 232 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: What happened? 233 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, Kenny, I mean, I'm not the type 234 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: of player is gonna be Johnny Hustle and run down 235 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: the line and slide to first base. 236 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 5: That's just not my personality. 237 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: That's not my cup of tea, That's not who I am. 238 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: Should I have given it a little more effort, one 239 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: hundred percent? 240 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 5: I should have, But I didn't, you know, and I 241 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 5: got a pay a consequences. 242 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: For It does look bad, It looks terrible. So a 243 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: lot of people, of course, jumped on those comments, not 244 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: realizing the full context. Some of which you saw there. 245 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: But Chindo took accountability for what he had done. He 246 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: vowed to be better. He knew that it was a problem. 247 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: And I had written a column the night before kind 248 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: of previewing this interview that what was going to come 249 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: on television, trying to brace everyone and give the full 250 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: perspective of what he was saying. And people can take 251 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: it however they want. But it wasn't as bad as 252 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: saying I'm not Johnny Hustle. There were more things said, 253 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: there were other parts of that interview, and he did 254 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:21,119 Speaker 1: take accountability. Now let's go fast forward to the broadcast 255 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: the other night and what I said. When I speak, 256 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: when I write, and I do anything like this, I 257 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: am mindful of everything that's taken place before. And I 258 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: am also though readers and listeners and viewers might disagree, 259 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm always kind of trying to be fair. That's what 260 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: I try to do. I try to give all sides, 261 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: try to be fair. And again, considering the breath of 262 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: Machado's career, all that had taken place that moment in 263 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: the dugout, that was pretty cool. Obviously, again I did 264 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: not know about the rest, and obviously the rest matters 265 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: and all the things that have taken place since that, 266 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: We've learned about the incident with Roberts and all of 267 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: that that reflects poorly on Manny Machada. There's no question 268 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: about it. That seems to be who he is. In 269 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: my column today, I wrote, this was Manny being Manny again. 270 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: He is a guy who is not afraid to get 271 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: under people's skin, not afraid to rattle cages. He'll do it. 272 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: Fans of other teams are going to dislike him intensely 273 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: for that, and that is their right. Fans of the 274 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: teams he plays for, in particular, the Padres, now love him. 275 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: They love him because he's the emotional leader of this group. 276 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: He is the guy who, while having this unbelievable contract, 277 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: remember they signed him to a three hundred and fifty 278 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: million dollar extension to replace the final six years of 279 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: the three hundred million dollar contract. He posts plays every 280 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: day since twenty fifteen. He is second to Paul Goldschmidt 281 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: in games played. He's out there, he's trying, he's playing 282 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: mostly at a high level. He's a great player. He's 283 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, and the Padres fans understandably like him, 284 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: love him, and they love this team. This team has 285 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: guys who will tick people off. Profar his antics out 286 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: in left field and at the plate and whatever he's doing. Tatis. 287 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: He's a guy who prances around like a peacock. These 288 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: guys are emotional players. They're guys who have fun playing 289 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: the game. But if they're not on your team, you're 290 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: not going to like them. This is who the Padres are, 291 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: this is who Manny is. And what I wrote in 292 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: the column and how I'll conclude this segment is by 293 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: saying two things actually can be true. He can be 294 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: a leader and he can show growth, which he has shown. 295 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: He was really helpful and supportive of you, Darvish when 296 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: you Darvish was on the restricted list while attending to 297 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: a personal manner. Darvish has said, Hey, this guy was 298 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: right behind me. He was there with me. He was 299 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: one of the most supportive players. He can be that guy. 300 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: He can be the guy that calls the meeting in 301 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: the dugout and rallies his players, and he can also 302 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: be the guy who does things that can really tick 303 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: you off. None of us is a one dimensional person. 304 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: And to me, the Bandy Machada we saw the other 305 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: night for all of the frustration people might have with 306 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: some of the things that we've learned since. At the 307 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: same time, if Jack Flaherty in twenty fifteen, or the 308 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: version of Jack Flaherty then had said what he said 309 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: to Manny Mitchatdo after striking him out, Manny Mitchatdo probably 310 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: would have charged them out. So we've got growth here, 311 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: we've got more maturity, albeit starting it with a low bar. 312 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: And again, this is not a one dimensional situation. No 313 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: person is that one dimensional where you can say good guy, 314 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: bad guy. Well, actually some people are. I don't know 315 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: that Manny is Manny has multiple sides. And in the 316 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: column I wrote, the headline describes the multitudes of Mandy Machado. 317 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: That's an accurate description. Again, I said what I said 318 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: on the broadcast. I had no problem saying it. I 319 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: stand by it. But what happened after that not so great. 320 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: We'll be right back afterward from Aj Persinski, Eric Kratz 321 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: and Scott Braun. 322 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 6: I love a great deal, but I'm not going to 323 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 6: run sprints in the outfield just to save a few bucks. 324 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 6: It has to be easy, no hoops, no bs with Mintmobile. 325 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 6: It really is that easy. 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First question today comes from 345 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: Jim W. Miller, who asks, I know the reason is ratings. 346 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: But do you think that it's fair that the Yankees 347 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: always get the primetime game. Other fan bases missed their 348 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: teams with early games and teams have to play with 349 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: crazy shadows while the Yankees get all the breaks. Owners 350 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: should complain, Jim. The reason is ratings. There's no question 351 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: about that, and frankly, it's more of a problem in 352 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: my opinion, for fans than it is for the teams. 353 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: When you talk about the shadows, both teams are playing 354 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: in the shadows. I don't think there's an advantage there. 355 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: There's nothing that's affecting the game other than the shadows themselves, 356 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: which ideally you don't want. Ideally you want the games 357 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: all in primetime, but then they'd be bumping up against 358 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: each other and that's not going to work. Evandrelik wrote 359 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: a story in The Athletic recently about why they stagger 360 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: the game times, that's what produces the highest ratings. And 361 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: as for the Yankees themselves, do they get an advantage 362 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: playing at night and in primetime. I don't know that 363 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: that's an advantage. I do understand and empathize with fans 364 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: who are unable to watch games that their teams play 365 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: during the afternoon for whatever reason they're working or they're 366 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: out and about, whatever the case might be. There are 367 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: other fans, of course, who complain that all these games 368 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: are at night and then too late, and they should 369 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: be played in the afternoon so the kids can see them, 370 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: always the children. There's no easy answer, but the bottom 371 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: line is this. The networks pay billions for the rights 372 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: to these games, and they're going to adjust them. Baseball 373 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: is to work with their partner here to get the 374 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: best possible ratings. That's the way it is. That's the 375 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: way it's always going to be. And while it is 376 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: unfair to certain fan bases who get stuck every year, 377 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: well they're teams if they're in every year, have to 378 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: adjust and have to kind of miswork or miss school, 379 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. It's just reality, all right. 380 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: The next question, this one comes from Mad King Tyler, 381 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: who asks what do the Orioles need to do to 382 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: succeed in the postseason. They have been swept the last 383 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: two years in the wildcard round. Is it just more 384 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: experienced in October or is there a price they need 385 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: to se trade for, a peace they need to sign 386 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: or trade for in the offseason. It's kind of a 387 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: little of everything. One thing that hurt them this year 388 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: were the pitching injuries to their rotation. They didn't have Bradish, 389 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: they didn't have Grayson Rodriguez. But even if they had 390 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: had those guys, where they suffered at the end, most 391 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: was the offense, and that, to me is something that 392 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: you have to address, perhaps with a veteran piece or two. 393 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: And I know people are saying, well, look at the Tigers. 394 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: They're a young team, one of the youngest in the league, 395 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: and they're doing just fine in the postseason. Yes, that's true, 396 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: they're a little bit of an aberration. Generally speaking, you 397 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of need more presents and you need these players 398 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: to mature. That's part of it too. Jackson Holliday in 399 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: two years is going to be better than he is now. 400 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: Even Gunner Henderson might be better than he is now. 401 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: All of these guys, Kobe Mayo, the group of prospects 402 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: that they have. Remember, Westburg got hurt at the end too, 403 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: just came back right as the postseason started. No easy 404 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: answers here, and obviously they're going to have a challenge 405 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 1: off season because Burns is a free agent and Santandy 406 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: are one of their veteran players who is kind of 407 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: a stabilizer is going to be a free agent as well. Really, 408 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: you just have to keep going, and you kind of 409 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: have to learn from your experiences and matures group and grow, 410 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: and that has to be supplemented as well by bigger 411 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: and better players. It's the bottom line, all right. Final question, 412 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Rick Bentley asked, I'd love your take on Tito Francona 413 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: as a Reds fan? Am I wrong to be excited 414 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: for the first time in a while? Rick? Good question, 415 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: and I'm glad you asked it because we haven't even 416 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: touched on Terry francon is hiring, which was one of 417 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: the great shocks of October so far. No one, well 418 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: not no one, but not many people thought he was 419 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: coming out of retirement. I certainly didn't think he was 420 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: after all the health problems he had and all the 421 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: reasons he gave for stepping down with Cleveland last season. 422 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: But Francono lifts for this. We've talked about it on 423 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: foul Territory, and yes, he will be a big addition 424 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: for the Reds's been a three time Manager of the Year, 425 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: been in three World Series, one two of them. He 426 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: has a great way with people, and even a great 427 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: way with young people, though he's not young anymore himself. 428 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: Tremendous communicator, seems to get the most out of his 429 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: players on a regular basis. He certainly did it in 430 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland all those years. So for Terry Francona and for 431 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: the Reds, this is a huge step forward and I 432 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: am excited to see what he can get out of 433 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: that team. That is not a team without talent. They 434 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: obviously have some holes, they have some things to address, 435 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: but going forward, I expect them to be better because 436 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: he is their manager. I want to thank everyone for watching, 437 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: everyone for listening, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, that is where to 438 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: find us, and we'll be back on Thursday with our 439 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: normal Thursday show twelve thirty Eastern. Myself and Alana Rizzo 440 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: enjoy the postseason. 441 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 4: Everyone Betmjam Bullpen Jackpot special for the postseason can win 442 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: a share of a daily fifty thousand dollars bet m 443 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 4: Jam Bullpen Jackpot and bonus bets. 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