1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Drake firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Tuesday, 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: October thirty first. Happy Halloween to everybody out there. You know, 5 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: you guys are gonna be going out getting the candy 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: with the kids. I hope the weather's nice. Halloween changed 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: significantly for us when we came out here to the 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: best coast from Pennsylvania. I remember you had to like 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: really board up with the jackets and the winter hat 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 2: and this gloves. You know, it's like touching, Like forties 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: on the East Coast on Halloween usually come out here 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: in LA and it's like, oh yeah, rocket T shirt. 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: I maybe get away with the tank top. The weather's 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: just nice. I'm not bragging, just the reality folks. But 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: Halloween's always a fun one, and it's even more fun 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: when the Detroit Lions come through. For you Lions, I 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: mean just smashing everything. Teaser cover an awesome performance from 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs, the rookie out of Alabama. Impressive stuff. I 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: actually think we're gonna start probably with a little bit 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: of a negative rob g I don't want to be 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: negative negative. Jason. You guys know, I like to keep 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: it positive, but you know, Robb G is a Raiders fan, 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: and DeVante Adams is supposedly not going to be traded 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: at the deadline, right that Raiders don't want to part 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: with him. They'll they'll trade Hunter third and Renfro, but 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: not DeVante Adams. So then you watch Monday Night Football, 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: Jimmy G ten of twenty one for a buck twenty six. 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: This is the same Lions secondary that got treaded by 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson got treaded by Geno Smith. Like, let's be real. 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: The Lions run defenses is strong, but under no circumstances 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: should Jimmy G get bottled up by the Lions. He 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: had a pick, he was sacked six times. He had 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: a gruesome over throw of DeVante Adams that sent him 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: to the sideline, took off his helmets, slammed it down, 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: muttering curse words under his breath, and then he kind 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: of just like sat on the bench, buried his head, 37 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: and you were just you felt a little bad for him. 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: So then he gets to the podium, He's like, I 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: don't know what to say. I think he's pretty clear. Everybody, 40 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: you know, the Raiders are not a playoff team. This 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: is a three to five team at this point. I 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: don't know if they're better than the Broncos for sure. 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: We know the Chargers are improving and the Chiefs are 44 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 2: still the Chiefs like the playoff race in the AFC's 45 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: brutal rob and I know you don't want to unload 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: Devonte Adams unless it helps you. I'm looking at Adams' contract, 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: This is crazy. If they move off of Adams, he 48 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: essentially has one more year and then there's an out 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: in his deal. So I don't know. And it's tough 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: to get a grasp on the financials of how much 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: cap space these teams have because you've got guys like 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints just gaming the system and in 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: the can down the road. Well, I would kick the 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: can down the road for DeVante Adams, wouldn't you. I mean, 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: Devanta Adams is still an elite route runner, a superstar receiver. 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 2: He had a whopping one catch for eleven yards one 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: catch on seven targets. Do you think he's not ticked off? 58 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: So I've got a couple teams for you, and you, 59 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: guys know this is an offensive league. Obviously you need offense. 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: You looked at the Super Bowl last year Chiefs Eagles, 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: just a barn burner of a game. Think about this, 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: If DeVante Adams can be had for I don't know, 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: a first and a fourth, do you not have to 64 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: consider that if you're saying the Dallas Cowboys, do you 65 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: know how much more difficult the Cowboys are to scheme 66 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: for if they've got CD Lamb in the slot and 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: they've got DeVante Adams on the outside, ceed Lamb, who's 68 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: been killing number ones, Now we'll face number twos or 69 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: slot corners. And if you think it's scary on Dallas, 70 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: you know you look at San Francisco how they've struggled 71 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: without Deebo Samuel. And I know you know Devanta Adams 72 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: is not in the same role as Deebo Samuel. But 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: you had Devanta Adams of the Kyle Shanahan offense with 74 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk. I mean that they make the jump to 75 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: light speed quick. So if I'm a contender in the NFC, 76 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: I don't know that they would trade Devonte in the 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: division like the Chargers could use a receiver Rob. I 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: can't see the Raiders dealing with the Chargers. The Chiefs obviously. 79 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: I think they had three or four drops again this 80 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: weekend against Ennver. I don't see the Raiders do it 81 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: or deal with the Chiefs unless the Chiefs are given 82 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: up major draft equity, and I don't know that they're 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: going to do that. Look a out well, they've drafted 84 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: in recent years on the defensive side, so I would 85 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: only look to the NFC. Seattle don't need a receiver. 86 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 2: I don't think the Lions would go for DeVante Adams. 87 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: But you know, if you're Detroit, you have never sniffed 88 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: the playoffs in a while, you haven't won a playoff 89 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: game in forever. I think you're the You have the 90 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: longest drought of any team in the NFC of getting 91 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. I would have to check that, 92 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: but I think it's up there because I have a 93 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: couple friends who are Lions fans, and they just bemoan 94 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: the fact that the franchise stinks, like, don't you go 95 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: all in if you see the slightest chink in the 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: armor of the Eagles. And Jalen Hurts had two rushes, 97 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: that's a two designed runs against Washington. I don't know 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: if he's gonna hold up the Eagles secondary. That doesn't 99 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: look great. Like if you're the Lions, don't you push 100 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: all your chips in the middle. So I would make 101 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: a push for Devanta Adams. I know it's not gonna 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: be popular. You can't give up a first round pick. 103 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Detroit Lions are now six and two. 104 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: They got a legitimate shot at the number one seed 105 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: in the NFC. The Cowboys big win over the Rams, 106 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: they got a huge game against the Eagles. Forty nine 107 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: ers reeling three losses in a row. If I'm one 108 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: of the contenders in the NFC, I'm making a move 109 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: on DeVonta Adams. The Raiders could say no, but he 110 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: seems unhappy, Rob and I've got I've got to at 111 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: least make the call. If I'm one of those contenders 112 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: in the NFC. 113 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, if you're not calling the Raiders right 114 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: now for any number one of their players, you're doing 115 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: yourself a disservice. I mean when Davante Adams and one 116 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 3: of his biggest you know, things that you like about 117 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: him if you're a fan, is that he seems to 118 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: be a very classy guy. That's one of the reasons 119 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: why this could come back to haunt him, right, So 120 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: they ask him after the game. Obviously he's caught on 121 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: one of a football cameras slamming Assamond. As you mentioned, 122 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: They catch him after the game and say, you know, 123 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on the team? You know you 124 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: had a moment on the out on the sidelines, the outburst, 125 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: your thoughts And because Davonte Adams is not the kind 126 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: of guy a la a Stefan Diggs or an AJ 127 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: Brown even who's gonna really be honest to the media 128 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: how he feels, he says, quote, Honestly, I don't know 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: what to say at this moment. 130 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: I truly don't. 131 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: I wish I had the worst to say something that's 132 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: not going to get blown up in the media and 133 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: take it out of context. When everyone knows what you're thinking, Davante. 134 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: Everyone knows how you feel, and if you would just 135 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 3: be honest with yourself and say it out loud, maybe 136 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: this whole thing we get expedited, you know what I mean. 137 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: And so as a Raider fan, I think he's awesome. 138 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: I don't want to see him go, obviously, but this 139 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: Patriots westification of my beloved franchise has turned us into 140 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: the laughing stock of football yet again, because they took 141 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: over a ten win team and drove them straight into 142 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: the ground. So if I'm the Cowboys, if I'm the Niners, 143 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: if I'm the Lions, of course you call up and 144 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: make an offer to the Raiders, knowing just given his 145 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: contract situation, they're probably going to say no because they 146 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: have to eat a lot of dead cap, you know, 147 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: in that situation. But even in the AFC, like in 148 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: the division, you're not going to make any deal no 149 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: matter what the chief of the Chargers offer you. That's 150 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: just reality. But if I'm the Jacksonville Jaguars, if I'm 151 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: even the Buffalo Bills, if I'm the Baltimore Ravens, I'm 152 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: absolutely calling and offering a first and a fourth or 153 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: a second and a third, moving like something. Because he's 154 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: clearly not happy. They're clearly not going anywhere. And he 155 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 3: is still one of the top five receivers in football, 156 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: if not number one depending on what you look for, 157 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: so absolutely other teams should be calling about him. 158 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: It's interesting. Do you think he's top five? Go ahead, 159 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: rattle off and let's just start with AJ Brown and 160 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: not Tyreek Hill. 161 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, justin Jefferson Tyreek Hill. I think Cooper Cup 162 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: is still awesome, Okay. I AJ Brown's on a run 163 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: right now, so you kind of want to give him 164 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt. But as far as playing 165 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: the wide receiver position, I don't know if i'd put 166 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: him above. 167 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: Devonte Adams huh okay. 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: So like other receivers, understand other receivers. So that's why 169 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: you see all the guys in the offiction like who 170 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: is the best guys? And they almost to a man, 171 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: will mention Devonte Adams first because his releases, his in 172 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: and out of breaks are second to none. He just 173 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 3: doesn't have the top end speed or the physicality of 174 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: an AJ Brown at the top end speed of a 175 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. So that's kind of why fans don't mention 176 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: him in that same breath. But just as far as 177 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: playing wide receiver, oh, he's awesome. 178 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: He's spectacular. So I just looked it up. So he's 179 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: thirty turns thirty one in December. In March of twenty 180 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: twenty two, he was traded to the Raiders in exchange 181 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: for a first and a second. Okay, so he got 182 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: a first and a second, a year and a half ago, 183 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: maybe a year and eight months ago. His numbers have 184 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: gone down precipitously. I had to look this up. Rob 185 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: So last year with the Raiders one hundred catches, fifteen 186 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: hundred yards, fourteen touchdowns, so those are releaked. This year 187 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: he's on pace for something like ninety five ninety six catches, 188 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: eleven hundred yards and six touchdowns. And again, it doesn't 189 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 2: help that he doesn't have Derek Carr. He's stuck with Garoppolo. 190 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: Could you get what if somebody offered you a second 191 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: and a third, would you do that instead of a 192 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: first and a fourth. 193 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: It depends on the salary. 194 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: It depends on the salary situation, because I you know, 195 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: if you look at spot track, it says his dead 196 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 3: cap number this season would be fifty four and the 197 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: next season be forty. Now, I don't know how that 198 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: works when you get traded and if a team's able 199 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: to eat something because they're taking on the salary, I 200 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: don't know how that works. But assuming those are not 201 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: accurate numbers, absolutely, because the Raiders aren't going anywhere, and 202 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: until they get rid of the coach, you're stuck, right, 203 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: And the problem is that Ziegler and McDaniels, the GM 204 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: and the head coach came in as a package deal. 205 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: So Ziegler's not going to fire Josh McDaniels because then 206 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: he knows he's on an island and he's the next 207 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: guy to go. 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I remember I was even before the deadline, 237 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: because a little before the deadline, that's right, it was 238 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I remember in a cab after a party 239 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl and my phone just starts melting 240 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: and I'm like, holy cow, Kevin Durant to the Sun. 241 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: We don't usually get that, right, Rob. In the NFL, 242 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: it's like a lot of smoke and mirrors, a lot 243 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: of chatter, and nothing really happens. There was a decent 244 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: one on Monday. So the Giants are reeling. They're a disaster. 245 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: They're not going anywhere a third string quarterback. They moved 246 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 2: off of Leonard Williams, who's a pretty good interior alignment, 247 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: and they sent him to Seattle where he will bolster 248 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: what is already a good defense. In exchange, the Giants 249 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: get two draft picks. They get a second in twenty 250 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: four and a fifth in twenty five. So when I joke, 251 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: well not joke, when I floated a second and a 252 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: third for Adams, I think I think it has to 253 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: begin with the first round pick given Leonard Williams, who's 254 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: not nearly a game changer, game wrecker the way DeVante 255 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: Adams is. Like a second and a fifth in twenty 256 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: five for Williams like that, that's a decent haul, I guess. 257 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: But listen, man, I've been saying this on Cowherts Show. 258 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: We haven't really gone into it as much on here, 259 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: but Rob, I'm just telling you this Seattle team they 260 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: can legitimately win the NFC. The talent is there. The 261 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: biggest question obviously is Geno Smith and can he be 262 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: consistent enough. He has not been in recent weeks. He's 263 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: been quite awful. In fact, he did have a game 264 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: winning drive, so I guess I can't say awful, but 265 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: he has just he has lacked poise. Apparently he struggles 266 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: against man defense is great against zone. So he's not 267 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: great at throwing guys open, but he's great at throwing 268 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: two open guys, if that makes sense, against the zone. 269 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: So his numbers are that's odd for me. Zach Wilson's 270 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: the opposite zone confuses the crap out of him. Man, 271 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: he can throw guys open, Gara Wilson, anybody right, He's 272 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: got the arm that he can throw guys open. So 273 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: if you're Seattle and you really have all the pieces 274 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: in place on offense, you're not gonna find a quarterback. 275 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: What do you do? You bolster the defense. And if 276 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: you go look on Pro Football Focus, and again, they're 277 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: not the end all be all. I've never said they are. 278 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm just saying they're one data point. But what they 279 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: bring to the table defensively, Man, that secondary Woolen who 280 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: dropped an interception brutal one on Sunday. The kid Witherspoon 281 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: is looking awesome, Jamal Adams healthy digs in the secondary, 282 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner is playing at an insane level. You got 283 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: the kid Mafe they drafted I believe out in Minnesota. Yeah, 284 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: second round pick in twenty two. He's been playing excellent 285 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: off the edge, like Leonard Williams. According to PFF, thirty 286 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: seventh out of one hundred and twenty five defensive linemen, 287 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: it's not bad thirty seven. That's upper crust. If they 288 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: can stop the run and force teams to throw into 289 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: that secondary. They're not quite a no fly zone like 290 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: they used to be with Sherman and Company back there. 291 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: But Rob the Seattle team is really dangerous. I like 292 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: this trade. And if you're the Giants, you just start 293 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: selling off I mean, you would sell off offensive pieces, 294 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: but you don't have any. I love this deal for 295 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: the Seahawks, you. 296 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, me too. 297 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: And I think, just to go back to your original 298 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: question about the draft pick compensation, the difference between Leonard 299 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: Williams and Devontagne and DeVonta Adams is big money left 300 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: on his deal and Leonard Williams, I believe, was in 301 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: the last year of his so I might explain why 302 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: the price to get him was so low, because you know, 303 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: you got to give him a new contract on top 304 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: of that. But yeah, I love this deal for them, 305 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: and I like it for the Giants as well. I'm 306 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: kind of surprised that they have already effectively shut down 307 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: any trade talks of VoMi Saquon Barkley to that regard, 308 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: because they're not going anywhere. I don't believe they want 309 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: to pay him the money that he's looking for, so like, 310 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: what are you doing? And according to a few outlets, 311 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: one of the reasons they don't want to trade him 312 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: is because Saquon legitimately loves being in New York, and 313 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: I understand that. But the other one they said is 314 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: because he's the face of the franchise. Well that you 315 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: don't treat the frase of your franchise the way they 316 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: treated him all off season. Let me just tell you 317 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: that right now, let's not do that. But Seattle is plucky, 318 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: right because they have everything that you look for in 319 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: a strong contending type team. The problem with them, though, 320 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: is that they play in the same division as the 321 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: Niners and the same conference as the Philadelphia Eagles, and 322 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: so I like the move. I think it makes them better. 323 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: I think it makes them demonstrably better, honestly, but I 324 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: don't believe it puts them into that upper crust of contenders. 325 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: In that conference, so I think there's still a ceiling 326 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: with them. But again, I'm saying this as a Raiders fan. 327 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: In my team sucks, so like, what do I know, right, 328 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: I'm just jealous of other teams. I can't even be competitive. 329 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you're being a hater, but I 330 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: think that's a realistic take. I have a little bit 331 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: of a less realistic take. This one probably will not 332 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: be received well, but that's fine. I get that. That's 333 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: part of the job, you know. The part of the 334 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: job description is to say inflammatory stuff that are going 335 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: to make you think. Some of it will be out 336 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: there and other stuff we'll be in there. So you guys, 337 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: remember the Arizona Cardinals traded for Josh Dobbs right before 338 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: the season, and it appeared as if they were tanking. 339 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 2: People are like, oh, they're McCoy's a veteran, they could 340 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: trust them. They're tanking. And then Josh Dobbs proteded to 341 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: like play well beat Dallas. Everything was looking good. The 342 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: wheels have fallen off. Now for Arizona. Rob as competitive 343 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: as they were early, they're not one in seven. Kyler 344 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Murray is coming back. But if you noticed Rob after 345 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: the Arizona loss to Baltimore, the coach came out and 346 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: said Kyler Murray will not start against the Browns next week. 347 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: The game's in Cleveland. It's going to be gross whether 348 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: you can't throw your guy in there. Right? But Rob, 349 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: did you see the news that popped late Monday after 350 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: another poor games from Josh Dobbs. Josh Dobbs was benched. 351 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: Really the guy who kept you competitive, Like he's the 352 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: reason you were competitive. I know he's making mistakes. He's 353 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. They're going to be starting someone named 354 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: Clayton toone, a rookie. Rob. Why would they announce this 355 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 2: the day before the trade deadline. Dobbs was not awful. 356 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: He did have two picks, I think in a fumble 357 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: against the Ravens. But is it just a little interesting 358 00:18:53,480 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: that throughout the league there are quarterback issues the Cardinals have, Rob. 359 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Dobbs has got to be a top 360 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: five backup quarterback given what we saw from the starter 361 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: he came to. No, he came to Tennessee last year, 362 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: Remember they had Malik Willis and they essentially said he 363 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: ain't ready. Let's get Josh Dobbs off the Street, plug 364 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: him in, and they nearly got to the playoffs. They 365 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: nearly beat Jacksonville. Rob My take here long winded way 366 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: of saying, I believe Arizona is floating Josh Dobbs. They 367 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: wrung him out like a towel, got every ounce they 368 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 2: could out of him, and now they're gonna ship him 369 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: and try to pick up. Hey, give us a fourth 370 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: for Josh Dobbs, give us a third and us six, 371 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: whatever it is, give us something for Josh Dobbs and 372 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: now Rob. Then then you say, well, who's gonna want 373 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: to back up quarterback? Well, uh, you know, the injuries 374 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: Rob at the quarterback position are significant. I don't think 375 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: the Jets do it. But you look at a team 376 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh. Are they going to keep Trubisky? Would they 377 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: trot out Dobbs? He knows the division from his time 378 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: in Cleveland. Hell, you look at Cleveland. PJ. Walker stunk? 379 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: Does Cleveland say you know what, we made a mistake 380 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: moving off Dobbs. We thought we had dtr We thought 381 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: we had what's his face, the guy who's stunk over 382 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: the weekend. You know, let's let go of Dobbs. And 383 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just floating those two. I mean, Tennessee 384 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: looks like they have something in will Levis at least 385 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: for the next week. Indianapolis is kind of interesting. Rob Gardner, 386 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: Minshew got an injury. I was talking to Mark Sanchez, 387 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: who was unheard, and I said, you know, the Colts 388 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: moved the ball really well at the start of that game. 389 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: I was even shocked against the Saints. And He's like yeah, 390 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: And then Minshew got dinged up and you could tell 391 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: he was not the same guy after that, and it's like, man, 392 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: they're already on their backup. Would they go after Josh Dobbs, 393 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, or do they want to lose? That's 394 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: just the AFC, NFC, you know Atlanta. You gotta wonder 395 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 2: what they have with Heinike. And then I don't know, 396 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: like you know, the brock Purty concussion situation. Do they 397 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: trust Darnold like the La Rams? Did you see the 398 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: Rams Stafford. We'll see what happens. We're waiting. But Rob, 399 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: the theory that they that they are bench Josh Dobbs 400 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: in hopes that they can maybe unload him here on 401 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: deadline day. 402 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: I like it. 403 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: Oh, And you know what, it's one of those situations 404 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: where you know you prevosed it by saying could be 405 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: a kind of hot taking, but when you explain it 406 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: the way you did, it makes so much sense, Like 407 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: you're so right, you can't turn left right now, Like 408 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: everything you said it is so clairvoyant. Because yes, I 409 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: mean there should be a number of teams that should 410 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: be calling about Josh Dobbs. I. You know you mentioned 411 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: that you don't think they're gonna do it, but I 412 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: think your New York Jed's got to be at the 413 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: top of the list because Zach Wilson obviously is not 414 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 3: the answer. Who knows what's going on with Aaron Rodgers. 415 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: But if you're going to make a move for a 416 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: quarterback to come in and with Aaron Rodgers looming is 417 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 3: it can't be a guy who's threatening to him. And 418 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: that was one of the issues with the Kirk Cousins. 419 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: You know, conversation we had a few weeks ago was 420 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: let's say Kirk Cousins comes in and he does well, 421 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 3: gets you to the playoffs, YadA, YadA, YadA, Like, how 422 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 3: is Aaron Rodgers gonna feel about that? Because you know, 423 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: he's a very emotional kind of guy, and there's not 424 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: going to be that kind of controversy with the Josh 425 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: Thobs and the other one and again Kirk Cousins. Kirk 426 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: Cousins goes down with an achilles injury. Yeah, the Minnesota 427 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: Vikings are foreign for they've won three in a row. 428 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 3: They're plucky in the NFC playoff chase. I think they 429 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: would really, you know, do well to make a move 430 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: for a guy like Josh Thobs. Absolutely, and if I'm Arizona, 431 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: it makes all the sense in the world to move 432 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: off of him because you either won need to get 433 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray back in there just to see what he 434 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: has number one and number two to showcase him for 435 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: any potential offseason trades, or you need to get Clayton 436 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: Tune in there imediately because you want to lose as 437 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: many games as possible so you can have your pick 438 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: of the litter in the Caleb Williams, Drake May, Michael 439 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: Pennock's junior should your Sanders pick your guy sweepstakes? 440 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Should do so. 441 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: This whole thing makes a ton of sense if you're Arizona. 442 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: I know it's weird to hear them say that they're 443 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: making good moves, but I like the idea of floating 444 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: out the Josh Dobbs trade. 445 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: Good job by you. 446 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: I'll gladly take it. I had to look this up 447 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: because I wasn't sure, but I thought there was some 448 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: connection with Josh Dobbs to NASA. So when he was 449 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville with the Jags in twenty nineteen, he participated 450 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: in internship at NASA's Kennedy Space Center. Kind of cool, 451 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: pretty smart individual. I'm digging this Josh Dobbs character, and 452 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: I do hope this some sort of trade comes to fruition. 453 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: He seems like a very intelligent guy, and he majored 454 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: in aerospace engineering during his time at Tennessee Aerospace Engineering 455 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: four point oh grade point average SEC academic honor roll. Like, 456 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: that's a guy you can easily root for any He's. 457 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: The smartest guy in football, is. 458 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: What you're saying. Was it? Well, Ryan Fitzpatrick used to 459 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: be the guy who went to Harvard. 460 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, But Ryan Fitzpatrick seemed like the kind of 461 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: guy who went to Harvard, but he got like c's 462 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: and b's because he was partying too hard. 463 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: Like then stops. 464 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: If you've got a four point oho study aeronautical engineering, 465 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 3: I mean you probably are the smartest guy. 466 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to be smirched. The Tennessee education. Uh no, No, 467 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: I know nothing about Tennessee. That's a joke. I don't know. 468 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: I do know. 469 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: Actually, a girl who I went to high school with, 470 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: her son is a freshman at UT I only know 471 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: this because I'm friends with her on Facebook. But yeah, 472 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what the academics are like 473 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: at Tennessee. I mean, listen, if you're playing quarterback in 474 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: the SEC and an aeronautical engineer like you're legit, you're very, 475 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: very smart. 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My guess is there's just 508 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: not There's gonna be a lot of talk and not 509 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: a lot of action. Are there any big day, any 510 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: big things? 511 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: You've heard? 512 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Rob, you are the producer of a pretty well known 513 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: radio show. I'm sure you're getting stuff floated your way 514 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: all the. 515 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 3: Time, absolutely producing The Odd Couple with Christy starring Rob Parker, 516 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 3: weeknight seven to ten pm Eastern, a Fox Sports radio 517 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: shameless plug. 518 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 519 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: Look, I've been following all the rumor mill, checking my 520 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: phone as much as possible. The big name that everyone 521 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: want to talking about is Dereck Henry. But according to 522 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: multiple outlets, even though that they've accepted offers on him, 523 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: they're not really looking to move him. But you know 524 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 3: what do they say there in no words of auw Brandt. 525 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: What that means is that they haven't gotten a good 526 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: offer yet. 527 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: Right? 528 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: Is that you know we're not We're listening to offers, 529 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: but we're not looking to move him, which means no 530 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: one's made a good offer. But if I were to 531 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: put on, you know, my thinking cap and look into 532 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: the third I right here in the middle of the 533 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: forehead the name that I would monitor heading into Tuesday's 534 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: trade headline come in full circle is Raiders running back 535 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs. He's obviously unhappy and unlike Davonte Adams, he 536 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: says enough in the media so that you know he's unhappy. 537 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: Right. 538 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: I know Javonte Adams and all the headlines because he's, 539 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 3: you know, the best or one of the best receivers 540 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 3: in football, and people forget the Josh shaobsled league in 541 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: rushing last year. But they asked him after the game 542 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: if he has any ideas of what could spark the 543 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: Raiders offense, which has been putrid. Said quote, I don't know, 544 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 3: it ain't my job. That doesn't sound like a guy 545 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: who wants to be in Vegas very long. You know, 546 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: he's on the franchise tag. You know they they're definitely 547 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: not going to give him the contract he's looking for, 548 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: point blank period. That's just not going to happen. The 549 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: Patriot Way does not value running backs like that. 550 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: So if I'm them. 551 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm quietly shopping him to the teams that we know 552 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: are interested in Derrick Henry, which means Lamar Jackson's Baltimore 553 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: Ravens come on down if I'm them and I can't 554 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: get Derek Henry, which has been reported they wanted Derek 555 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: Henry that they were viewed as the team most likely 556 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: to get him if they can make a deal that 557 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: I pivot early Tuesday morning here and I make a 558 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: call to Mark Davis and Dave Ziegeler, and I say, 559 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: what's it going to take to get Josh Jacobs and 560 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: is one year franchise tag expiring deal and get him 561 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: here to Baltimore because I think he could be an 562 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: absolute difference maker for them that could propel them to 563 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: the top of the AFC and into the Super Bowl. 564 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: Interesting. So I happen to be faced the only reason 565 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: I know this because I was facing him in fantasy. 566 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: But Gus the Bus Edwards, who needs Derrick Henry. Gus 567 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: the Bus had three touchdowns. I think they were all 568 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: from one yard out, and it was just like, oh gosh, 569 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna lose to Gus friggin Edwards. He had like 570 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: twenty seven points. But do you need a Derreck Henry 571 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: if you have Gus the Bus and Justice Hill. I 572 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: don't know the answer to that. Obviously, Derek Henry is 573 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: a massive upgrade. But ah, I thought Cowboys could could 574 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: be a player given the red zone woes and the 575 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: fact that you know, Henry can run between the tackles 576 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: inside the red zone ONNKE, say a Tony Pollard, who's 577 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: more of a between the twenties guy. Yeah, it's interesting. 578 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: I wonder if Tennessee just saw just enough from Will 579 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: Levis to say, you know what, with our run game 580 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: and Derrick Henry, if we're able to create just enough 581 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: space to uncork a couple bombs every game, we're gonna 582 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: have something. That Levis arm looked very live, rob I 583 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: was surprised, I mean, and it looked kind of accurate. 584 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: Now I know the down to down stuff, you know, 585 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: second and eight. He wasn't exactly thriving or what have you. 586 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: But when he's going deep like that's his game and 587 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: he was making plays. I don't know anyone else big 588 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: besides Derrick Henry. I don't know. It just it feels 589 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: to me like we're not going to get much again. 590 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: No, if I were to if I were a betting man, 591 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: the only quote unquote big name that I could see 592 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: get a move would be Chase Young, last year of 593 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: his deal. Again, Washington is not going anywhere. They don't 594 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: want to give him the money that he's looking for. 595 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 3: It looks like they're going to be choosing between him 596 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: and Montes Sweat. I would assume because Montes Sweat would 597 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: be a cheaper alternative to re sign, that a team 598 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: could poach Chase Young if they wanted him. 599 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I kept reading about Jacksonville aka Saxonville, 600 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: but they're apparently disappointed with Trayvon Walker, who they took 601 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: over Aiden Hutchison in and you know, he's just not 602 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: He's like good against the run, but he's not delivering 603 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: as a pass rusher. I'm trying to look up Jacksonville sacks. 604 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: Well, Josh Allen is there and he's hospittle below. 605 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Allen's on one end, and then Walker apparently 606 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: is just not delivering on the other side. So if 607 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: they were able to get Sweat or Young, that would 608 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: be like a massive bonus, and then maybe you could 609 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: make Walker or even Allen situational for Hey and I 610 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: noticed this at the Chargers Bears game. Joey Bosa was 611 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: not in every single down. I'm like, why isn't Bosa 612 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: on the field, And it was like not, it was 613 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 2: clearly like not an obvious passing situation. But when it was, 614 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: Bosa was in there and he was commanding double team. See, 615 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 2: he had an okay game. But maybe they make one 616 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: of those situational And you know, rotational depth on the 617 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: defensive line is huge, and that sounds nerdy to say, 618 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: but that's a fact, Rob, Like, you need that depth. 619 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: And somebody was saying one of the reasons that the 620 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: Niners are not as formidable defensively is they don't have 621 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: the depth they used to. They used to have like 622 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: Eagles type depth was like five six guys that they 623 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: would rotate in. Now they just don't have that. Yeah, 624 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: kind of an interesting trade deadline. Do you want to 625 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: do any NBA real quick Rob or no? 626 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: Or? 627 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: I made that bet with my buddy about Jordan Poole, 628 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: and I said he would average over twenty nine and 629 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: a half points a game because he's gonna get a 630 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: billion shots. And Jordan Poole is in prime hot dog mode. Here. 631 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: One weekend of the season. I'm sure you saw the 632 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: clip online of where Jordan Poole took a three from 633 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: the corner and tried to be Steph Curry and it missed. 634 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: And then Jordan Poole against the Celtics last night did 635 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: a move like it was like a slow motion fast 636 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: break and he was acting all like too cool, and 637 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: he did one of those like dribble behind the back 638 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: turnaround things and then just shot it and poor Zinc 639 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: came up and blocked the three point attempt of his 640 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: and it was just like, bro, what are you doing? 641 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: You didn't even try to get back on d and 642 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: looked like he was bench for the fourth quarter. He 643 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: only scored eleven points. It's been a rough go, Yeah, 644 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: it's life's a little easier, Rob, when you have Steph 645 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: Curry and Clay and Draymond and now you go to 646 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: Washington and it's like nobody's talking about Kuzma in the corner, 647 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: like we're focused on you, and they're like, life's a 648 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: little tough for Jordan Poole. Do you think, Rob, that 649 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna hear from Raymond Green about this or is 650 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: he gonna play it kind of cool and not attack 651 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: the guy. 652 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 3: No, I don't think Draymond's gonna say anything, whether in 653 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 3: the post games or in his podcast even I don't 654 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: see that happening, but I would not put it past him, 655 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: like in a House of Hoops highlights Instagram comment, you know, 656 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: to maybe throw some emojis in there, something like that's 657 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: all stut. Maybe not an actual verbal takedown of Jordan Poole, 658 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 3: like this is who he thought he was, this is 659 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: why he had to get out of town. But you know, 660 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: maybe like a hand up to the mouth like emoji 661 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: somewhere like I could see that. 662 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: Guy, or or yeah the eyes emoji something yeah, something 663 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: like that. Other note. Hey, so I love to go 664 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 2: through the box scores and I'm going to you know, 665 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: you know I'm a big Dallas MAVs fan because of Luca. 666 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: I click on it. They smashed Memphis. I merely bet Dallas. 667 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: They were only favored by two. I'm like, guys, Memphis 668 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: is not good right now. I should have bet it. 669 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 2: I did not. Memphis now zero and four Dallas cruises 670 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: Luca thirty five, twelve and twelve. I'm just curious. I 671 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 2: looked for Kyrie and I'm like, oh, Josh Green started 672 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: in the back court. Let me see Kyrie coming off 673 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: the bench. No, it's hard away. Oh, third game of 674 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: the season, Kyrie irving out. What's going on here? Why 675 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 2: is he missing a game all ready? Well, I looked 676 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: up the story. Kyrie was a late scratch with a 677 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: left foot sprain. Okay, MAVs won by fifteen. Just just 678 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: felt I put that out there. They look a good 679 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: listen three and oh, I know there was a lot 680 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: of MAVs haters in the offseason. I just it's weird. 681 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: I don't know who. Well, maybe we need to start 682 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: betting NBA rob Maybe we need to look Let's look 683 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: at tonight's games. Halloween are there? There's only three freakings. 684 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: They don't nobody's gonna be watching TV. Nick's calves on 685 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: TNT Spurs Suns. I'm seeing Suns favored by seven, Spurs 686 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: coming off the beat down against the uh who is 687 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 2: it the paper clips? There is there a chance? Yeah, 688 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if I could take the Spurs there 689 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: on the road. Plus, you don't know who's playing for 690 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: the Suns. 691 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 3: When last doubt doubtful for d book And and Brad Beale. 692 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 2: What about Durant? 693 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: Durant is supposed to play. 694 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, Katie, don't load manage? Oh maybe he should, 695 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 2: you know, he's always anyways. Yeah, so uh all right. 696 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: That that's where we are, and NFL trade deadline will 697 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: hopefully provide some interesting content. I'm sure we'll get a 698 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 2: Lakers guest on soon, as the Lakers just don't look 699 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 2: crisp doing anything. I almost want to say, like, just 700 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: can we shut down Lebron for a week and see 701 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: how they tread water? Make Anthony Davis the guy? But 702 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 2: then what do you do offensively? Where you getting points? 703 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 2: I know Lebron did not have a great night against Orlando, 704 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: but it's like, who's generating offense without it? Will everybody 705 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: step up? Austin Reeves? I don't know, somebody's got to 706 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 2: because they certainly they're just not looking good. You don't 707 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: want this to kind of spiral like last year where 708 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: they're like then fighting to get in the playoffs. I 709 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: don't know, man, lest Angelo Russell is always better for me. Anyways. 710 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow.