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Speaker 1: Dear listeners of Hollywoodland, does it feel like you're stuck

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hollywoodland, the rap party. What's happening, everybody? I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Zeth Lundy, writer, showrunner, and good doctor here

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Speaker 1: at Double Elvis. And today in the Hollywoodland Rap Party,

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Speaker 1: we are talking about cursed movies, the sets that were cursed,

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Speaker 1: the actors and directors who were followed by curses. So naturally,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Poltergeist. We're talking about Rosemary's Baby. We're

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Speaker 1: talking Halloween Baby. So later in the show, I'll be

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Speaker 1: joined by Jake Brennan of Disgraceland to give you guys

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Speaker 1: some recommendations of songs for your Halloween playlists. and movies

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Speaker 1: for your Halloween watch list. Plus, I've got your calls, texts,

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Speaker 1: and emails. So come on, everybody, let's party. What's up, guys?

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Speaker 1: I mentioned last week Rosemary's Baby as one of the

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Speaker 1: classic horror films we revisit here in the Lundy household,

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Speaker 1: if not every October, you know, every other October. And

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. You know, like the Tannis route.

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Speaker 1: and The Chocolate Mousse with the Chalky Undertaste. Chalky Undertaste,

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Speaker 1: by the way, great name for a blog or a

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Speaker 1: sub stack about horror films. If it's not already taken,

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Speaker 1: you're welcome. While this movie, Rosemary's Baby, is loaded with

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Speaker 1: cold characters, characters like Guy Woodhouse, played with true asshole

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Speaker 1: Minnie and Roman, played by the scenery-chewing Ruth Gordon and

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Speaker 1: in my estimation. You know, as cold as these characters are,

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Speaker 1: there is this domesticity to this film, as it's largely

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Speaker 1: There's that vodka blush that Roman serves up. The roasts.

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Speaker 1: that the Woodhouse's friend Hutch makes them. It's comfort horror.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong? It's horror that you can wrap around

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Speaker 1: I just weird? Am I just fucked up? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think this is the point

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Speaker 1: more shocking. I still get goosebumps at this scene every

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Speaker 1: bad move there, Gregory Peck. Gregory Peck lost his own

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Speaker 1: been out there for years called Atuk, A-T-U-K, Atuk, I

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in curses, but I do believe in karma.

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Speaker 1: I believe that you get back what you put out there.

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Speaker 1: abso-fucking-lutely true. And that's a story for another day. I

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Speaker 1: me or text me. 617-906-6638. And let me know. You

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Speaker 1: can also email me at disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Coming a

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Speaker 1: And then I'm going to bring some hopefully underrated, underseen,

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Speaker 1: Text from the 303. Zeth, I have never agreed with

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Speaker 1: I can see Eternal Sunshine being a comfort movie, even

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Speaker 1: though it's depressing as hell. You know, it's like Rosemary's

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Speaker 1: Baby is fucking dark as shit, and that's a comfort

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Speaker 1: movie for me, apparently. And Crystal Lake, this is on

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Speaker 1: our list of stuff to check out. We're watching Carrie

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00:25:04,660 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: right now, but I want to check this series out

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00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: as well. It looks great. And A24 did it, and

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Speaker 1: I'll watch just about anything that A24 does. Appreciate you, Manny.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for reaching out.

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Speaker 2: 617-906-6638.

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Speaker 1: Got a text here from the 415 that said, Hey, Zeth.

431
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Speaker 1: You often bring up songs from the 1970s that you

432
00:25:22,820 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: aptly described as being buried in the subconscious of Gen

433
00:25:26,380 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: Xers and Xennials, but unleash a flood of memories whenever

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00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,459
Speaker 1: heard again. You mentioned some great ones. How about Midnight

435
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:36,770
Speaker 1: at the Oasis? That's definitely one that taps the springs

436
00:25:36,810 --> 00:25:40,609
Speaker 1: of childhood memories of backseat car rides and AM radio magic.

437
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:43,669
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just me, though. Love your weekly mixtapes and

438
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:46,169
Speaker 1: everything else you and Jake put out there. Glenn in

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Speaker 1: the 415. Hey, thanks, Glenn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Midnight at the Oasis, Maria Maldar, right? That's definitely one.

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00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:57,820
Speaker 1: It's one that like, yeah, it's like, you know, you

443
00:25:57,859 --> 00:26:00,140
Speaker 1: don't hear it for years and then you hear it again.

444
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,820
Speaker 1: And it's like, what is with the vibe of these songs?

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00:26:02,859 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, like the strings, the sultry guitar tones, they

446
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,260
Speaker 1: sound like a deep breath and a huge sigh. Maybe

447
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,330
Speaker 1: it's just the sound of being like exercise out of

448
00:26:14,590 --> 00:26:17,090
Speaker 1: the back of your mind somewhere. But I love this.

449
00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:21,730
Speaker 1: Thanks for writing in, Glenn. Keep on rocking in the 405.

450
00:26:21,730 --> 00:26:24,710
Speaker 1: Got a text here from the 615 that said, just

451
00:26:24,730 --> 00:26:27,889
Speaker 1: had to chime in on the Stephen King maximum overdrive.

452
00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: I've read most of Stephen King's books. There's something in

453
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Speaker 1: his books that is very difficult to capture on film.

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Speaker 1: I could list many poor adaptations, but Pet Sematary was

455
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: the worst. The book terrified me. The film was laughable. 615,

456
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:49,630
Speaker 1: completely agree. My son jokes about that Pet Sematary movie,

457
00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:53,410
Speaker 1: the one from the late 80s, early 90s with Fred Gwynn.

458
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:58,490
Speaker 1: Sometimes dead's better. We do that, his awful Maine accent.

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00:26:59,710 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: Whenever there's like a cheesy horror film or a really

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00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: bad Stephen King adaptation, that's what my son says. Sometimes

461
00:27:05,859 --> 00:27:09,580
Speaker 1: dead's better. Listen, I'm a Mainer. Stephen King is like,

462
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,869
Speaker 1: you know, he's it for us up here. And We

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00:27:14,910 --> 00:27:16,689
Speaker 1: talk about this often. I mean, I could talk about

464
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:20,340
Speaker 1: this for hours. There is something about his books that

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Speaker 1: are very difficult to capture on film. And I think

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Speaker 1: the people who get it right are the people who

467
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Speaker 1: understand that Stephen King's books are not just about horror,

468
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Speaker 1: but he writes so much about humanity and not just

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Speaker 1: the bad part of humanity, but the good part of humanity, right?

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Speaker 1: And so when people get these movies right and these

471
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Speaker 1: series right, it's because they get the humanity right. You know,

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Speaker 1: Rob Reiner with Stand By Me, Frank Darabont with The

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Speaker 1: Shawshank Redemption, Mike Flanagan with the new Carrie series, with Dr. Sleep,

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Speaker 1: with Gerald's Game. Gerald's Game is super underrated. These people

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Speaker 1: all get the humanity aspect of it right. I think

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Speaker 1: where people falter is that they lean into the horror

477
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Speaker 1: of it all, right? And yes, he is the master

478
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Speaker 1: of horror, master of suspense, but don't sleep on his humanity.

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Speaker 1: There was a great interview this past weekend in the

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Speaker 1: New York Times, a joint interview with Stephen King and

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Speaker 1: Mike Flanagan. And, you know, they mentioned this, they mentioned,

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Speaker 1: it's so funny too, you can't take the mainer out

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Speaker 1: of Stephen King. Like they asked him about, his favorite

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Speaker 1: adaptations of his work and his least favorite adaptations. And

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Speaker 1: he said like, you know, I don't like to talk

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Speaker 1: about my least favorite adaptations because, you know, like he

487
00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:48,730
Speaker 1: just doesn't like to talk about negative shit.

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00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:48,950
Speaker 4: Right.

489
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Speaker 1: But he, he did bring up the shining and how

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00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:53,630
Speaker 1: he said, people want to talk to him about that

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Speaker 1: one all the time, because for, in his estimation, for

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Speaker 1: some reason, unbeknownst to him, it's the shining Stanley Kubrick's

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Speaker 1: movie has been elevated to, you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest horror films of all time. But in Stephen King's mind,

495
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 1: The guy got it wrong, and it's not good at all.

496
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: And he goes, you know, my wife says, you know,

497
00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: shit floats. It's like, I love him because he's still

498
00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:23,250
Speaker 1: just the same down-to-earth Cranky Maynard that he was decades ago. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I'm way off track here. 615, thank you for texting in.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to read one more text here real quick

501
00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:32,070
Speaker 1: from the 901. Hey, Zeth, are you watching the new

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00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: Carrie remake? How about Crystal Lake? I was never deeply

503
00:29:35,060 --> 00:29:37,910
Speaker 1: into horror. But here I am at 45 getting into it.

504
00:29:38,260 --> 00:29:39,970
Speaker 1: I just finished Crystal Lake and I loved it.

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Speaker 4: It.

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00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:42,850
Speaker 1: I'm starting on Carrie now. I think the horror genre

507
00:29:42,910 --> 00:29:45,570
Speaker 1: is just outperforming everything right now. Let me know what

508
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:50,990
Speaker 1: you're watching. Elizabeth from the 731 via the 901. Elizabeth,

509
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: I just mentioned it earlier, but I'll just repeat it

510
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: here a little bit more in depth. We're going to

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00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: queue up Crystal Lake. Haven't started it yet, but I'm

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00:29:57,660 --> 00:30:00,470
Speaker 1: psyched to watch it. We're about halfway, a little bit

513
00:30:00,490 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: more than halfway through Carrie, and I'm loving it. I'm

514
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Speaker 1: really liking it. Mike Flanagan really knows how to strike

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Speaker 1: that balance between what I was just talking about, the

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Speaker 1: horror side and the humanity side. I forgot to mention

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Speaker 1: The Life of Chuck, which he did as well, and

518
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,850
Speaker 1: which is incredible. This is also an example of how

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00:30:20,030 --> 00:30:22,890
Speaker 1: you can, it's like a great cover song. It's like

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00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:27,910
Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin taking Otis Redding's respect and turning it into

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Speaker 1: something new. Flanagan has taken this source text from the

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Speaker 1: 70s and put it into a story in 2026 with

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Speaker 1: kids who have smartphones, with kids who have social media accounts,

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00:30:42,010 --> 00:30:46,030
Speaker 1: with kids who can create, you know, Finsta accounts and

525
00:30:46,290 --> 00:30:51,660
Speaker 1: anonymous accounts in order to bully others, cyber bully others.

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Speaker 1: It's really a kind of a genius stroke on Mike

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Speaker 1: Flanagan's part. to do what he's done with the show.

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Speaker 1: The casting is great. Flanagan has like a, he has

529
00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: a stable of actors that he uses over and over again.

530
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:05,740
Speaker 1: And a number of them are in this and they're

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Speaker 1: all just so, so well suited for, for this work.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, highly recommend Carrie and thanks everybody for the

533
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,830
Speaker 1: recommendations on Crystal Lake and other stuff. We'll check those

534
00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:18,770
Speaker 1: out soon. So many other messages I wasn't able to

535
00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:21,090
Speaker 1: get to today, guys. I'm running out of time here.

536
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:22,950
Speaker 1: I'm going long. I got to stop or else Matt's

537
00:31:22,970 --> 00:31:25,290
Speaker 1: going to kill me. So I will get to those.

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Speaker 1: Next week, I'm going to take a quick break here again,

539
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:30,790
Speaker 1: but when I come back, Jake Brennan will be here.

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Speaker 1: We're going to give you guys some Halloween-themed recommendations, so

541
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Speaker 1: don't nobody go nowhere.

542
00:31:35,970 --> 00:31:36,370
Speaker 4: I'll be right back.

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00:31:49,540 --> 00:31:51,740
Speaker 1: All right, guys, we're back here in the wrap party. Dr.

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Speaker 1: Lundy hanging with you here. Joined, as I am always,

545
00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: in the D-block, we call it. That's a little behind

546
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: the scenes lingo for y'all. The D-block here with Jake Brennan.

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Speaker 4: The spooky D-block this week.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: I lowered my voice for that one. Have you heard

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00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,540
Speaker 4: this rumor that Elizabeth, what's her name? Elizabeth Holmes? Is

551
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,220
Speaker 4: it Elizabeth Holmes?

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00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Theranos.

553
00:32:15,090 --> 00:32:16,410
Speaker 4: Yeah, the movie that everyone's freaking out about.

554
00:32:16,430 --> 00:32:18,050
Speaker 1: This movie is supposed to be fucking incredible. I know.

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00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:19,340
Speaker 1: I'm going to go this weekend and see it.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to watch it. Yeah. My wife was

557
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Speaker 4: telling me there's this rumor that she lowered her voice

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00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 4: a lot to talk like this to make her sound

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Speaker 4: more masculine. And when you hear her voice, and I

560
00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:31,570
Speaker 4: don't know if it's true or not, but I watched

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Speaker 4: this like old 60 Minutes on her this weekend. And

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Speaker 4: I was just like, I was blown away at her voice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like it's repelling and attractive at the same time. I know.

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00:32:41,010 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: It's so fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It really is. Like if it's fake, I'm, I'm, I

568
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,100
Speaker 4: don't know. I kind of want it to be fake

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Speaker 4: because it's psychotic if that's the case. Right.

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00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: And you know, worthy of its own horror movie, which

572
00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:54,950
Speaker 4: is kind of what we're here to talk about in

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Speaker 4: a way.

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Speaker 3: Right. We are. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We're just, we're doing some straight up like Halloween recommendations.

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Speaker 1: I know I had mentioned you have this like legendary

577
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Speaker 1: Halloween playlist, at least in my house on Spotify.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And we shared that with the listeners at one point

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Speaker 1: years ago, I think. And so I know that what

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Speaker 1: I really liked about your, your playlist was that there

582
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Speaker 1: were so many like songs that I didn't know, or

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Speaker 1: that I was like, Ooh, yeah, this is great. And

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Speaker 1: so I was hoping you could bring a couple of,

585
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Speaker 1: you know, deep cut Halloween playlist recommendations. And then I

586
00:33:24,980 --> 00:33:28,500
Speaker 1: have three movies that are great for this time of

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00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,780
Speaker 1: year to watch as well. So why don't you cue

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Speaker 1: us up and start?

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Speaker 4: Okay. The first one I'm going here, it's, uh, They

590
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,610
Speaker 4: do appear on the playlist. It's funny you brought up

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Speaker 4: the playlist, because I didn't know you were going to,

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Speaker 4: and I immediately went to my playlist to consult.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 4: They're on the playlist, but that's not why I brought

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Speaker 4: them to this list. So Kronos, the lead singer for Venom,

596
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Speaker 4: died a couple days ago.

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Speaker 1: I saw that, yeah.

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Speaker 4: And Venom is one of these bands. They're Satanists, supposedly.

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Speaker 1: For real?

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Speaker 4: For real, supposedly.

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Speaker 3: For real.

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Speaker 4: But they're so metal that they're comical, okay? They're very

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Speaker 4: hard to take seriously. Right. And I'm actually like, I

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Speaker 4: read his obituary in the New York Times on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: and I was, I'm kind of, my goal this week

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Speaker 4: is to figure out if they're actually Satanists, because the

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Speaker 4: Times doesn't say if they are or they aren't, or

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Speaker 4: at least he, if he was or if he wasn't.

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Speaker 4: And if they were, I'm going to get rid of

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Speaker 4: my copy of in league with satan because i don't

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Speaker 4: want that shit on my bookshelf if it's real i

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Speaker 4: don't want to be opened up into a portal of

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Speaker 4: evil that uh that likely exists yeah as these artifacts

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00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:47,589
Speaker 4: sometimes do anyhow he died and it reminded me of

615
00:34:47,969 --> 00:34:54,410
Speaker 4: this hysterical legendary mythic seven inch that is out there

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Speaker 4: that thurston moore released on his ecstatic peace label So supposedly,

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00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:03,259
Speaker 4: now I've heard this. It was played for me once

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Speaker 4: in Los Angeles in the pre-internet days. A friend played

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Speaker 4: it for me. And I don't think, I don't believe

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Speaker 4: it exists digitally. But it might. I should have looked

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Speaker 4: before I got on here. It's a 7-inch that Joe Cole,

622
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Speaker 4: who was a roadie for Black Flag, made. And Thurston

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Speaker 4: Moore released. And Venom, now these guys like Black Flag,

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Speaker 4: Sonic Youth, Beastie Boys... They were obsessed with Venom. I

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Speaker 4: was reading this story before I got on here about

626
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Speaker 4: how Mike D, these guys thought Venom was a joke

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Speaker 4: and they loved them. And they went to go see

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Speaker 4: them and they're like, oh fuck, they're for real. And

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Speaker 4: they name check Venom. I think they sample Venom on

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Speaker 4: Check Your Head. This seven inch, Joe Cole, the roadie

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Speaker 4: from Black Flag who was eventually shot and murdered next

632
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Speaker 4: to Henry Rollins, but that's a whole other story. Joe Cole,

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Speaker 4: they're at City Gardens in New Jersey. And I think

634
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Speaker 4: Thurston Moore, this is the first time he saw Black Flag,

635
00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:02,410
Speaker 4: was at this show. I could have that piece of

636
00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:05,910
Speaker 4: the story wrong. But Venom goes on. And I don't

637
00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:07,970
Speaker 4: know who was opening for who, Black Flag or Venom

638
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:11,310
Speaker 4: opening for each other. But Venom goes on. And they're

639
00:36:11,350 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 4: just blown away by the frontman histrionics from Kronos. Yeah.

640
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,650
Speaker 4: And Joe Cole taped the set. And then, you know,

641
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:24,310
Speaker 4: without the band's permission, got rid of all the music

642
00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:29,250
Speaker 4: from the set and pressed the between song banter from

643
00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:34,830
Speaker 4: Kronos onto a 7-inch. Like the Satanist, like losing his

644
00:36:34,910 --> 00:36:39,529
Speaker 4: mind in full rock and roll, like, let's go! And

645
00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:42,530
Speaker 4: then it's like, cut, two seconds.

646
00:36:42,850 --> 00:36:43,390
Speaker 2: How you doing?

647
00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:44,709
Speaker 1: Let's go see the girls.

648
00:36:44,890 --> 00:36:45,590
Speaker 4: Cut, two seconds.

649
00:36:45,969 --> 00:36:46,910
Speaker 2: Are you ready for scene?

650
00:36:46,989 --> 00:36:48,819
Speaker 4: Cut, two seconds. You know what I mean? Just on

651
00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:50,690
Speaker 4: and on and on and on and on. So if

652
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:52,509
Speaker 4: you can find that 7-inch, it is.

653
00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:53,210
Speaker 1: Wow.

654
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:56,390
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it. The justice it deserved.

655
00:36:56,650 --> 00:36:57,910
Speaker 1: Are you ready for Satan?

656
00:36:58,210 --> 00:37:02,630
Speaker 4: Deserves, yes. So that's... I think it's called Venom, and

657
00:37:02,670 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 4: it's on the Ecstatic label, Ecstatic Peace label, Thurston Moore's

658
00:37:06,340 --> 00:37:08,660
Speaker 4: record label. And if you can find that, give that

659
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,339
Speaker 4: a listen to. That's my first one. The second one

660
00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:17,100
Speaker 4: is entirely more musical. And my favorite types of spooky songs,

661
00:37:17,140 --> 00:37:19,650
Speaker 4: Halloween songs are the one I love the cramps and

662
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:23,590
Speaker 4: I love the misfits, but my favorite types of October

663
00:37:23,630 --> 00:37:29,180
Speaker 4: Halloween songs are the ones that are unintentionally spooky. Okay. Yes. Yes.

664
00:37:29,850 --> 00:37:33,950
Speaker 4: Hurdy Gurdy Man by Donovan. Made spooky because of David

665
00:37:34,010 --> 00:37:35,670
Speaker 4: Fincher and Zodiac.

666
00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:36,290
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

667
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:40,390
Speaker 4: So I'm not only recommending this song, I'm also recommending

668
00:37:40,410 --> 00:37:44,060
Speaker 4: a specific live performance, video of a live performance from

669
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,220
Speaker 4: YouTube for the listeners to check out. And it's Wolf

670
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 4: Like Me by TV on the Radio.

671
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: That's a great song. It's on Return to Cookie Mountain,

672
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: their second album.

673
00:37:52,510 --> 00:37:56,390
Speaker 4: Okay, second album. But it is the single from that album.

674
00:37:56,790 --> 00:38:00,410
Speaker 4: And in 2006, they went on Letterman and fucking destroyed.

675
00:38:00,430 --> 00:38:01,530
Speaker 1: Oh, it's fucking awesome.

676
00:38:01,570 --> 00:38:04,169
Speaker 4: So you've seen this. You've seen this performance. Yeah.

677
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:07,180
Speaker 1: There's a handful of Letterman performances from this era, like

678
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: TV on the Radio, The Strokes, and maybe a little

679
00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: bit later, Father John Misty. They're just like these, oh, yeah.

680
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:17,590
Speaker 1: moments that sort of define for me, like where I

681
00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:19,009
Speaker 1: was like, who the fuck is this band? You know

682
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:19,450
Speaker 1: what I mean?

683
00:38:19,469 --> 00:38:20,210
Speaker 4: So anyways. Yeah.

684
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:20,430
Speaker 3: Yeah.

685
00:38:20,610 --> 00:38:24,049
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, but I mean, the song is fantastic and

686
00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:26,469
Speaker 4: you can just hear the song and understand why it's

687
00:38:26,510 --> 00:38:29,220
Speaker 4: incredible and it's spooky and it's weird. And I still

688
00:38:29,260 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 4: don't know what the fuck it's about. To me, it's

689
00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: like Halloween, but the live performance, the Letterman performance is

690
00:38:34,739 --> 00:38:38,540
Speaker 4: just like, oh my God. Yeah. And they exist as

691
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,589
Speaker 4: a live band anyways. I think we've talked about them before.

692
00:38:40,610 --> 00:38:42,510
Speaker 4: I've seen them before. I saw them at the Paradise,

693
00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:44,390
Speaker 4: which is a great venue to see them in. Oh, wow.

694
00:38:44,770 --> 00:38:46,990
Speaker 1: And- I'd love to see any band at the Paradise.

695
00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:49,089
Speaker 1: It's just, it's so compressed and, you know?

696
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:51,140
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. Unless you're behind one of the poles.

697
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:51,990
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's true.

698
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:58,510
Speaker 4: Yeah. But they- I just, I cannot believe, I don't

699
00:38:58,530 --> 00:39:01,910
Speaker 4: even know how to categorize the performance on Letterman. It's

700
00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:04,509
Speaker 4: so rock and roll, but a new kind of rock

701
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 4: and roll, you know, that I didn't know existed until

702
00:39:06,940 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: I saw this.

703
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,700
Speaker 1: Super cathartic.

704
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:12,299
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's just great. It's just truly, truly great. Yeah.

705
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,140
Speaker 4: And I don't know, do you find this song to

706
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: be spooky or is it just me?

707
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:15,580
Speaker 1: Oh, no, I do.

708
00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:15,819
Speaker 4: Yeah.

709
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,180
Speaker 3: You do?

710
00:39:16,460 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's something like, it's not really sinister, but there's

711
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,890
Speaker 1: something like kind of haunted about it, you know?

712
00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:24,410
Speaker 4: Totally. And I was shocked that it hasn't been in

713
00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:27,690
Speaker 4: a horror movie. And this is a great failing of

714
00:39:28,010 --> 00:39:29,030
Speaker 4: horror directors everywhere.

715
00:39:29,070 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: Seriously, yeah.

716
00:39:30,380 --> 00:39:33,900
Speaker 4: I'm sure TV on the radio, they're not being too like, no, no, no,

717
00:39:33,940 --> 00:39:34,940
Speaker 4: you can't have a song.

718
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so, yeah.

719
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,350
Speaker 4: It's in these TV shows. It's in One Tree Hill.

720
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:42,930
Speaker 4: It's in Rescue Me. Now, I think I had multiple

721
00:39:42,969 --> 00:39:43,989
Speaker 4: songs in Rescue Me.

722
00:39:43,989 --> 00:39:44,060
Speaker 3: Wow.

723
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,910
Speaker 4: I at least had one. I know that. And my

724
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:48,710
Speaker 4: point was, it wasn't hard to get a song in

725
00:39:48,730 --> 00:39:49,569
Speaker 4: to fucking rescue me.

726
00:39:49,650 --> 00:39:50,090
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

727
00:39:50,110 --> 00:39:50,629
Speaker 3: Right, right, right.

728
00:39:50,650 --> 00:39:53,310
Speaker 4: The Dennis Leary show. It's in a couple movies. It's

729
00:39:53,350 --> 00:39:55,350
Speaker 4: in a movie called Never Back Down. It's in a

730
00:39:55,450 --> 00:40:03,900
Speaker 4: thriller called The Invisible. It's in Kill Your Darlings, which is,

731
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: is that a documentary?

732
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: No, I think that has something to do with the

733
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: Beat Poets.

734
00:40:08,060 --> 00:40:10,900
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a Beat Poetry movement.

735
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: But it is in Spider-Man Brand New Day, which I

736
00:40:14,420 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: think is the most recent Spider-Man. Huge one. Must have

737
00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 4: been huge for the song.

738
00:40:19,340 --> 00:40:21,419
Speaker 1: That's like the biggest movie of all time or something

739
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,540
Speaker 1: like that, I think, at this point.

740
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:22,739
Speaker 3: Yeah.

741
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

742
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,020
Speaker 4: So like a whole other generation of people now know

743
00:40:26,060 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 4: what this song is, I'm assuming, based on that film.

744
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: But not in a horror movie, which is kind of

745
00:40:31,660 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 4: fucking shocking to me. So that led me to think

746
00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:41,490
Speaker 4: of quintessential horror for me, horror sounding like score and soundtrack.

747
00:40:41,530 --> 00:40:43,469
Speaker 4: And we talked about this in this film, should we

748
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:45,570
Speaker 4: play that? I don't think we talked about this song.

749
00:40:46,070 --> 00:40:52,989
Speaker 4: So Goblin. Okay. Yes. And, and size original, original, however

750
00:40:53,010 --> 00:40:57,230
Speaker 4: you pronounce what I assume is the Italian verb.

751
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:58,230
Speaker 1: Size original.

752
00:40:59,570 --> 00:41:04,469
Speaker 4: Thank you for rescuing me. But it's from, It's from Suspiria.

753
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:06,969
Speaker 4: Is my pronouncing that correctly? Yeah. Yeah.

754
00:41:07,010 --> 00:41:07,550
Speaker 1: The soundtrack.

755
00:41:07,610 --> 00:41:11,989
Speaker 4: Yeah. Which is a legendary Italian horror movie. Have you

756
00:41:12,030 --> 00:41:13,629
Speaker 4: seen it? Yes.

757
00:41:14,050 --> 00:41:14,250
Speaker 3: Yes.

758
00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:15,509
Speaker 4: Yes. I've seen it as well.

759
00:41:16,030 --> 00:41:16,510
Speaker 1: Argento.

760
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:17,009
Speaker 4: Yeah.

761
00:41:17,330 --> 00:41:18,050
Speaker 1: Dario Argento.

762
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. Um, this song, it might be the creepiest song

763
00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: I've ever heard in my fucking life.

764
00:41:23,739 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

765
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:29,890
Speaker 4: It is just, uh, I don't know. I don't even

766
00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 4: know how to describe it. Guys, you got to listen

767
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,299
Speaker 4: to it. Size Original A from Goblin. Now, I got

768
00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:39,620
Speaker 4: duped out of about 70 bucks because I tried buying

769
00:41:39,660 --> 00:41:41,859
Speaker 4: this album on vinyl and I got some fucking For

770
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: Cockta remake from the last couple of years. Oh, that's right.

771
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: Well, didn't Tommy, I think Tommy York did the soundtrack

772
00:41:48,260 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: for the remake one, but.

773
00:41:49,660 --> 00:41:52,260
Speaker 4: Oh, I wish it was that. It's not. Oh, okay.

774
00:41:52,460 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: I'm so pissed because it was like advertised in a

775
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: way where they were really fucking pulling the wool over

776
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,540
Speaker 4: your eyes. You know what I mean? If you weren't

777
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,990
Speaker 4: paying attention, you know, like, oh, I'll pay 70 bucks

778
00:42:02,010 --> 00:42:06,049
Speaker 4: for this cool fucking, you know, Italian horror soundtrack.

779
00:42:06,070 --> 00:42:06,689
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

780
00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:10,590
Speaker 4: And I got this fucking purple vinyl monstrosity with kids

781
00:42:10,670 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: cosplaying as like, you know. film composers fucking imposers man

782
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 4: it's so bad i hate it um okay so those

783
00:42:18,510 --> 00:42:21,770
Speaker 4: those are my three those are goblin goblin tv on

784
00:42:21,790 --> 00:42:26,070
Speaker 4: the radio and uh the venom seven inch from ecstatic

785
00:42:26,110 --> 00:42:27,730
Speaker 4: peace but i do have one thing to mention here

786
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:31,069
Speaker 4: which is i think really fucking interesting we you talked

787
00:42:31,110 --> 00:42:34,549
Speaker 4: about in that excellent exorcist episode that you wrote for

788
00:42:34,590 --> 00:42:38,009
Speaker 4: hollywood land at some point i don't think you talk

789
00:42:38,110 --> 00:42:40,029
Speaker 4: do you talk about mike goldfield in the in the

790
00:42:40,090 --> 00:42:42,940
Speaker 4: episode itself yes that's okay you do okay And you

791
00:42:42,980 --> 00:42:45,530
Speaker 4: talk about how, oh yeah, now I'm remembering, how freaking

792
00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:47,310
Speaker 4: couldn't find music for it.

793
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:50,630
Speaker 1: Well, he hired, he tried to hire real, like Bernard

794
00:42:50,670 --> 00:42:53,910
Speaker 1: Herrmann and Lalo Schifrin and nobody could get it. Yeah,

795
00:42:53,930 --> 00:42:54,650
Speaker 1: the main guys.

796
00:42:54,670 --> 00:42:56,630
Speaker 4: They couldn't do it. And then he finds the obscure

797
00:42:56,670 --> 00:42:59,860
Speaker 4: Mike Oldfield tubular bells in the basement of Warner Brothers

798
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 4: or wherever the fuck, whatever studio was doing the movie.

799
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 4: And Mike Oldfield, pretty obscure dude, right? He wasn't anything

800
00:43:06,940 --> 00:43:10,780
Speaker 4: before this. Well, I'm reading the Marianne Faithfull book. autobiography,

801
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: which is, you know, it's one of the greatest music

802
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:15,219
Speaker 4: autobiographies I've ever read.

803
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:15,899
Speaker 3: Awesome.

804
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 4: And she talks about her childhood, her school friend, Sally Oldfield,

805
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,390
Speaker 4: who got her into all this fucking witchcraft and the

806
00:43:25,450 --> 00:43:27,589
Speaker 4: occult and like turned her on to Crowley and all

807
00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:29,589
Speaker 4: this stuff when she was like in school, like pre

808
00:43:29,610 --> 00:43:31,890
Speaker 4: his tears go by pre Rolling Stones.

809
00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:32,290
Speaker 3: Wow.

810
00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:37,730
Speaker 4: Sally Oldfield was the older sister to Michael field. Now

811
00:43:37,790 --> 00:43:39,989
Speaker 4: as I'm saying this, I'm wondering if it's Bloomfield. It's not.

812
00:43:40,070 --> 00:43:42,170
Speaker 4: It's Oldfield because she mentions Tubular Bells.

813
00:43:42,530 --> 00:43:47,950
Speaker 1: Bloomfield is– that's the fucking– That's the blues guy from

814
00:43:47,989 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: Dylan's band. Yeah, Dylan's band and I'm trying to– what's

815
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,180
Speaker 1: his fucking band?

816
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,970
Speaker 4: Who's the Mike and the Mechanics guy? That's who I–

817
00:43:54,420 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: I almost– my brain– That's Paul Carrick.

818
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: That's Paul Carrick.

819
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,980
Speaker 4: No, Mike and the Mechanics.

820
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,340
Speaker 1: Yeah, no. Paul Carrick sang in Mike and the Mechanics.

821
00:44:02,660 --> 00:44:06,710
Speaker 4: He's the guy from Genesis? He's not Mike from Genesis?

822
00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Mike's the guitar player, but Paul

823
00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:12,339
Speaker 1: Carrick sang the big hit that they were some of

824
00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: the big hits they had after he was in squeeze

825
00:44:14,890 --> 00:44:15,529
Speaker 1: for one record.

826
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:16,610
Speaker 4: Oh damn.

827
00:44:16,690 --> 00:44:19,290
Speaker 1: Paul Carrick has this dude. He was in squeeze for

828
00:44:19,450 --> 00:44:21,790
Speaker 1: one record and he sings lead on tempted and tempted

829
00:44:21,830 --> 00:44:25,590
Speaker 1: is their biggest song. It's this wild thing about squeeze history.

830
00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:25,890
Speaker 4: Yeah.

831
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:28,010
Speaker 1: Paul Carrick was in that band for that one record

832
00:44:28,050 --> 00:44:30,650
Speaker 1: saying tempted and it's huge. And then he left.

833
00:44:30,730 --> 00:44:32,830
Speaker 4: And anyways, I thought that was the squeeze guy. What's

834
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:33,609
Speaker 4: the squeeze guy's name?

835
00:44:33,650 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Glenn, uh, Hansard?

836
00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 4: No, that's the guy who just died.

837
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,330
Speaker 1: We're all over the place. Glenn Tifford?

838
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:45,390
Speaker 4: Glenn, isn't that the guitarist for Judas Priest? See, now

839
00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:48,210
Speaker 4: we can just keep playing this game. Tipper Gore? What

840
00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:49,250
Speaker 4: were you saying?

841
00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:50,270
Speaker 1: Glenn Tilbrook.

842
00:44:50,489 --> 00:44:52,529
Speaker 4: Gore Vidal. Glenn Tilbrook, yes.

843
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:56,260
Speaker 1: Glenn Tilbrook, sorry. Sorry, Glenn Tilbrook. I fucking love your band.

844
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 4: He's great.

845
00:44:57,340 --> 00:44:58,060
Speaker 1: I just butchered your name.

846
00:44:58,380 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: There's a thing out there that I don't think Glenn

847
00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:03,100
Speaker 4: Tilbrook wants anybody to ever see. Maybe he does. I

848
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,170
Speaker 4: could be wrong. but it's this like tour he went

849
00:45:06,250 --> 00:45:09,610
Speaker 4: on in like 2006, 2007. He's basically just showing up

850
00:45:09,650 --> 00:45:12,660
Speaker 4: at people's parties, like playing in America. You know what

851
00:45:12,739 --> 00:45:13,299
Speaker 4: I'm talking about?

852
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,620
Speaker 3: No, I don't.

853
00:45:13,739 --> 00:45:14,260
Speaker 1: Tell me.

854
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,340
Speaker 3: Oh man.

855
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,130
Speaker 4: It's, it's got midlife crisis written all over it.

856
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh man.

857
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,580
Speaker 4: Check that out. That's my little side.

858
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,380
Speaker 1: You should also check out, there's some squeeze show from

859
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: the early eighties that was broadcast on like MTV live.

860
00:45:27,010 --> 00:45:28,890
Speaker 1: You can find on YouTube and it's like, they all

861
00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:31,370
Speaker 1: took like a handful of like speed and, And you

862
00:45:31,410 --> 00:45:34,510
Speaker 1: know how fast those songs are anyways? It's like, it's like,

863
00:45:34,610 --> 00:45:39,430
Speaker 1: and Tillbrook's like wailing those incredible guitar solos, like super fast.

864
00:45:39,469 --> 00:45:39,910
Speaker 1: It's awesome.

865
00:45:40,469 --> 00:45:42,370
Speaker 4: So, but the, the moral of the story is Mike

866
00:45:42,410 --> 00:45:45,710
Speaker 4: Mechanic from Genesis sang. Yes, exactly. Yes. Okay.

867
00:45:45,730 --> 00:45:46,190
Speaker 3: Got it. All right.

868
00:45:46,469 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 4: What do you got?

869
00:45:48,739 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: Please call me Mike. Mr. Mechanic is my father.

870
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: All right. Wonderful.

871
00:45:55,060 --> 00:45:57,140
Speaker 1: Listen, you know, I'm not a fan of like slasher

872
00:45:57,180 --> 00:45:59,540
Speaker 1: films of like, you know, like I'm just, I've never

873
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,140
Speaker 1: really had a stomach for that sort of thing. And I'm,

874
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,779
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get a stomach for it as I've

875
00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: gotten older.

876
00:46:03,620 --> 00:46:04,060
Speaker 3: Really?

877
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:04,980
Speaker 4: Yeah.

878
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm just not into that kind of stuff.

879
00:46:06,580 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: Well, no, you're starting to become into it. Yeah.

880
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

881
00:46:09,340 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

882
00:46:10,020 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

883
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,580
Speaker 1: It's my, this is what happens. I have a son

884
00:46:12,620 --> 00:46:14,569
Speaker 1: now who this is his bread and butter. And so

885
00:46:14,610 --> 00:46:17,489
Speaker 1: he's opening my eyes to this other world.

886
00:46:17,810 --> 00:46:19,509
Speaker 4: To like Saw and shit like that?

887
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:22,310
Speaker 1: Not Saw, no. There's a movie called Skinnamarink that he

888
00:46:22,350 --> 00:46:23,890
Speaker 1: wants me to watch that came out like a year

889
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:26,780
Speaker 1: or two ago. He's obsessed with obsession like a lot

890
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,180
Speaker 1: of his friends are. It's just cool to like sit

891
00:46:29,780 --> 00:46:32,299
Speaker 1: with someone who's like connecting dots in a different way

892
00:46:32,340 --> 00:46:33,820
Speaker 1: and opening your eyes to things.

893
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.

894
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: So these are three movies that I don't know if

895
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,460
Speaker 1: they're necessarily like horror, horror films, but they kind of

896
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,140
Speaker 1: like are great for this time of year. Number one,

897
00:46:43,739 --> 00:46:47,110
Speaker 1: Peeping Tom. This is a movie from 1960. It's directed

898
00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:51,370
Speaker 1: by Michael Powell, who had this legendary run, Powell and Pressburger.

899
00:46:51,469 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: They were this- English guy. English guys, right, filmmakers. They

900
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:58,940
Speaker 1: made The Red Shoes, which is an incredible film. Black Narcissus,

901
00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: A Matter of Life and Death. I kind of learned

902
00:47:01,060 --> 00:47:02,620
Speaker 1: about these guys in the same way that I learned

903
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: about Muddy Waters through, you know, The Rolling Stones. I

904
00:47:05,820 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: learned about Powell and Pressburger through Martin Scorsese, who was

905
00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:11,859
Speaker 1: a longtime champion of these guys.

906
00:47:12,370 --> 00:47:14,810
Speaker 4: He's always, always, if you read any Scorsese book, it's

907
00:47:14,830 --> 00:47:16,830
Speaker 4: the same way I know. I've never seen his movies,

908
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:18,190
Speaker 4: but Scorsese's always.

909
00:47:17,989 --> 00:47:20,049
Speaker 1: Talking about Michael Powell. Always talking about Red Shoes and

910
00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:25,870
Speaker 1: Michael Powell. So Michael Powell actually married Martin Scorsese's longtime editor,

911
00:47:26,130 --> 00:47:27,850
Speaker 1: Thelma Schumacher, right?

912
00:47:27,870 --> 00:47:29,049
Speaker 4: I knew that. That's right, yes.

913
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:33,830
Speaker 1: And this film, Peeping Tom, when it came out in 1960,

914
00:47:33,830 --> 00:47:38,050
Speaker 1: it was hated so much. It was called holy evil.

915
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:40,460
Speaker 1: It was called sick. It was called filthy. it was

916
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: hated so much by the British that they pulled the

917
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,140
Speaker 1: movie and it was like unavailable for years. And it

918
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,379
Speaker 1: was actually Scorsese who was, who was able to sort

919
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,580
Speaker 1: of like bring it back from the dead years later.

920
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

921
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,330
Speaker 1: The colors in this movie, just like in all of

922
00:47:52,750 --> 00:47:56,390
Speaker 1: Michael Powell's movies are incredible. Like they're like acid pops,

923
00:47:56,430 --> 00:47:59,710
Speaker 1: like colors everywhere. Right. And it's about this guy who's

924
00:47:59,730 --> 00:48:03,230
Speaker 1: like a, a cameraman at a film studio, but he's

925
00:48:03,330 --> 00:48:08,009
Speaker 1: also a killer. He uses like a portable camera, to

926
00:48:08,170 --> 00:48:11,750
Speaker 1: film these women as they die when he kills them.

927
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,739
Speaker 1: It's this movie about art and about voyeurism and the

928
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,940
Speaker 1: danger they're in, right? And it comes out, like, what,

929
00:48:18,980 --> 00:48:21,779
Speaker 1: a year or two after Rear Window? It's another great

930
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,500
Speaker 1: movie about voyeurism. But if you guys have not seen

931
00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: Peeping Tom or any Michael Powell film, but for this

932
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: time of year, Peeping Tom is great.

933
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,900
Speaker 4: I think it was on Criterion. Criterion's, I don't know

934
00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:38,380
Speaker 4: what they're doing. They're in some fucking... lockdown dragged out

935
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: brawl with Samsung or something right now?

936
00:48:40,540 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're going on day like 22 that

937
00:48:42,660 --> 00:48:44,770
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to watch the Criterion channel.

938
00:48:44,810 --> 00:48:47,029
Speaker 4: For those who can't see, that's just like looked up

939
00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:49,009
Speaker 4: to consult his Criterion watch.

940
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:51,569
Speaker 1: I have my Criterion watch. Yeah.

941
00:48:51,610 --> 00:48:52,930
Speaker 4: To pull day 22.

942
00:48:52,930 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: It's like days since an accident, you know, in like

943
00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: a factory.

944
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. well it's the worst time of all for

945
00:48:58,460 --> 00:49:00,660
Speaker 4: this to fucking happen yeah i know halloween season i

946
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:03,500
Speaker 4: know we get none of that curated spooky shit from

947
00:49:03,540 --> 00:49:07,299
Speaker 4: criterion which i'm pretty sure peeping tom was part of

948
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,609
Speaker 4: i think i had it light yeah i was gonna

949
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,150
Speaker 4: watch it but well thanks criteria there were another way

950
00:49:14,170 --> 00:49:17,470
Speaker 4: to watch movies gone okay number two number two.

951
00:49:17,770 --> 00:49:21,770
Speaker 1: Number two 1968 hour of the Wolf. This is a

952
00:49:21,810 --> 00:49:24,770
Speaker 1: film by the great Ingmar Bergman. It stars Max von

953
00:49:24,830 --> 00:49:29,509
Speaker 1: Sydow and Liv Ullman, two regulars in Bergman's acting troupe there. Bergman,

954
00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: for those that don't know, was a Swedish filmmaker who

955
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,660
Speaker 1: was part of the great legion of... international filmmakers that

956
00:49:37,739 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: really inspired new Hollywood here in America. So, you know, Kurosawa, Bergman, Fellini,

957
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: Michael Powell, Michael Powell, all these people, right? Well, first

958
00:49:45,739 --> 00:49:49,009
Speaker 1: of all, Bergman is so good at faces. And this

959
00:49:49,090 --> 00:49:52,690
Speaker 1: movie has like just faces, faces of like anguish and

960
00:49:52,770 --> 00:49:56,610
Speaker 1: fear and rapture and all these things. This is a

961
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:59,899
Speaker 1: very like nightmarish movie. It's about visions, it's about insomnia,

962
00:49:59,940 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: it's about a painter and his wife living on this

963
00:50:02,620 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: island and the painter, Max Fonsito, is having all these

964
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: troubling visions. It's very Lynchian. And actually David Lynch, I believe,

965
00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:12,219
Speaker 1: noted this at one point as like one of his

966
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: favorite movies. You can totally see like Lynch in this movie.

967
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,300
Speaker 2: Wow.

968
00:50:16,700 --> 00:50:18,979
Speaker 1: But it's great. And again, I think it's his only,

969
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,779
Speaker 1: I think it's the only horror movie that, it's like

970
00:50:21,820 --> 00:50:25,010
Speaker 1: psychological horror. And I guess, you know, Persona is kind

971
00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:27,690
Speaker 1: of a psychological horror movie too, but this is so

972
00:50:27,730 --> 00:50:29,510
Speaker 1: much more in like the horror lane.

973
00:50:29,969 --> 00:50:30,890
Speaker 4: Wait, what is this one called?

974
00:50:31,290 --> 00:50:32,310
Speaker 1: Hour of the Wolf.

975
00:50:33,070 --> 00:50:33,750
Speaker 4: Great title.

976
00:50:34,410 --> 00:50:36,610
Speaker 1: And it's black and white and it looks incredible.

977
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:37,730
Speaker 2: Really?

978
00:50:37,930 --> 00:50:40,549
Speaker 1: Yeah. Liv Ullman's face in this is just, I don't

979
00:50:40,570 --> 00:50:43,350
Speaker 1: know that anyone's face has ever looked better. And I

980
00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:49,150
Speaker 1: don't necessarily mean like beautiful, though it is at times.

981
00:50:49,230 --> 00:50:54,070
Speaker 1: I just mean like the contours, the shading.

982
00:50:54,190 --> 00:50:57,290
Speaker 4: The light expression. The lighting, the colorization.

983
00:50:57,350 --> 00:50:58,030
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.

984
00:50:58,070 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 4: In a black and white film, I didn't mean colorization,

985
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,609
Speaker 4: but you know what I mean. The way they're casting

986
00:51:02,650 --> 00:51:06,270
Speaker 4: the shadows on the face to give it depth and dynamics.

987
00:51:07,070 --> 00:51:07,430
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

988
00:51:07,469 --> 00:51:10,649
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that Bergman had a scary movie under

989
00:51:10,690 --> 00:51:11,110
Speaker 4: his belt.

990
00:51:11,250 --> 00:51:11,450
Speaker 1: Yeah.

991
00:51:12,090 --> 00:51:17,259
Speaker 4: His Christmas movie, Fanny and Alexander, has become a yearly

992
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 4: watch for us. Great. It's great.

993
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:19,540
Speaker 1: Yeah.

994
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

995
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,110
Speaker 1: He was pretty good. Okay, my third recommendation sticking with

996
00:51:24,130 --> 00:51:28,169
Speaker 1: black and white is a 1955 French film called Diabolique.

997
00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:31,110
Speaker 1: Not to be confused with, I think it was remade

998
00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:33,150
Speaker 1: at some point in like the 90s or something. And

999
00:51:33,210 --> 00:51:34,870
Speaker 1: I never saw that. I don't know if it's good

1000
00:51:34,910 --> 00:51:38,469
Speaker 1: or bad. I can neither confirm nor deny. But this

1001
00:51:38,530 --> 00:51:41,670
Speaker 1: is a great movie about, it's very Hitchcockian about a

1002
00:51:41,830 --> 00:51:44,710
Speaker 1: wife and a mistress of a principal at a boy's

1003
00:51:44,910 --> 00:51:48,770
Speaker 1: boarding school. And they plot this revenge plot to kill him.

1004
00:51:49,730 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: It's just super, it's like a revenge film that feels

1005
00:51:53,580 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: like it's haunted. Like the way, like the way that

1006
00:51:56,060 --> 00:51:59,140
Speaker 1: doors open and shadows creep in and stuff just feels

1007
00:51:59,739 --> 00:52:03,029
Speaker 1: like a haunted film. It also has this 1955, it

1008
00:52:03,050 --> 00:52:06,450
Speaker 1: has this like emerging French cool to it. One of

1009
00:52:06,469 --> 00:52:11,260
Speaker 1: the actresses, the one who plays the mistress, Simone Signore,

1010
00:52:12,260 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: she wears these like dark, shades, these dark sunglasses that

1011
00:52:15,260 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: just communicates this element of French cool. You know what

1012
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying?

1013
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. I know exactly what you mean.

1014
00:52:19,660 --> 00:52:21,460
Speaker 1: Very much like they're getting ready for Miles Davis to

1015
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,460
Speaker 1: come in and make the soundtrack for Elevator to the

1016
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:25,419
Speaker 1: Gallows and all that shit.

1017
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,860
Speaker 4: They're getting ready for Miles Davis to come in and

1018
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 4: show them how to dress.

1019
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,380
Speaker 1: Exactly.

1020
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: So there you go.

1021
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,510
Speaker 1: Diabolique, Hour of the Wolf, and Peeping Tom.

1022
00:52:35,010 --> 00:52:36,930
Speaker 4: Hey, have you seen... Those are great, by the way.

1023
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:39,410
Speaker 4: I'm going to watch all of them. Criterion never gets

1024
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:42,170
Speaker 4: their shit together. No, I'll watch Peeping Tom probably is

1025
00:52:42,310 --> 00:52:43,589
Speaker 4: easiest to find here, right?

1026
00:52:43,610 --> 00:52:46,609
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're probably all pretty easy to find.

1027
00:52:46,910 --> 00:52:48,350
Speaker 4: Have you seen the original Housemaid?

1028
00:52:48,370 --> 00:52:50,190
Speaker 1: What do you mean the original Housemaid?

1029
00:52:50,590 --> 00:52:55,060
Speaker 4: The one from 1960, Korean movie? The one that they remade?

1030
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,899
Speaker 4: They've remade it twice now. There's like a 90s, I think,

1031
00:52:59,060 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: Korean version of it.

1032
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,700
Speaker 1: Is the Sidney Sweeney one? I thought that was based

1033
00:53:03,739 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: on a book that just came.

1034
00:53:04,580 --> 00:53:04,859
Speaker 3: Out, no?

1035
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,740
Speaker 4: No, that's based on the movie.

1036
00:53:06,980 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: No, man, I haven't.

1037
00:53:08,219 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 4: Have you seen the Sidney Sweeney one? Yeah. You go first.

1038
00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:20,469
Speaker 1: I didn't like it.

1039
00:53:20,489 --> 00:53:24,250
Speaker 4: It's not my thing.

1040
00:53:24,830 --> 00:53:28,110
Speaker 1: I was texting with somebody about it. They'll remain nameless.

1041
00:53:28,310 --> 00:53:29,830
Speaker 1: And they were like, I mean, it's two hours of

1042
00:53:29,850 --> 00:53:32,060
Speaker 1: Sidney Sweeney. How can it be that bad? You know?

1043
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1044
00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it like intentionally.

1045
00:53:36,540 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: Right.

1046
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,060
Speaker 4: But I've been on enough planes in the last year

1047
00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: that I've watched it vicariously without sound because people around

1048
00:53:43,580 --> 00:53:44,180
Speaker 4: me are watching.

1049
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

1050
00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 4: So I pretty much got the gist.

1051
00:53:46,510 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1052
00:53:46,989 --> 00:53:49,510
Speaker 4: And I knew it was a remake. I could just tell.

1053
00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:52,220
Speaker 4: I could just sense the remake-iness of it.

1054
00:53:52,469 --> 00:53:53,129
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1055
00:53:53,330 --> 00:53:56,989
Speaker 4: I thought for sure you would have watched this. Kim Kai-yung,

1056
00:53:57,030 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: don't quote me on that pronunciation, Mr. Pronunciation. The Housemaid

1057
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: from 1960, landmark South Korea domestic thriller and horror film.

1058
00:54:06,130 --> 00:54:13,850
Speaker 4: And then it was remade in 2010. Lee Young-jae. I

1059
00:54:13,870 --> 00:54:16,870
Speaker 4: always want to say Jung, J-U-N-G, as Young, like Carl Jung.

1060
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:22,090
Speaker 4: But I don't think in Korean it's pronounced that way. Anyways, remade.

1061
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:27,620
Speaker 4: The 2010, I watched the trailer the other night, the remake.

1062
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,060
Speaker 4: The 2010 one looks fucking incredible.

1063
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:30,500
Speaker 1: Really?

1064
00:54:30,580 --> 00:54:33,739
Speaker 4: And I really want to watch that. But now I'm like, shit,

1065
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: I got to watch the 1961, man, which I think

1066
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,940
Speaker 4: I've actually had before, like long before the Sidney Sweeney

1067
00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:44,739
Speaker 4: of it all. I think I actually saw that. It

1068
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: was just on one day in my office and I

1069
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 4: was kind of like intrigued by it, but doing other stuff. Wow.

1070
00:54:49,820 --> 00:54:50,860
Speaker 1: All right.

1071
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, it looks creepy as fuck. Sweet. The 2010

1072
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,060
Speaker 4: one does. I said 90s earlier.

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Speaker 3: I was wrong.

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Speaker 4: It's 2010. 2010.

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Speaker 1: All right. Cool. Cool.

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Speaker 4: Cool. And I have a quick recommendation here for the

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Speaker 4: listeners who are probably way hip to this. I started

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Speaker 4: watching my first American Horror Story last night.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay.

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Speaker 4: And I watched the first episode of season 11, which

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00:55:11,230 --> 00:55:14,810
Speaker 4: is the one that takes place in New York in

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00:55:15,090 --> 00:55:18,330
Speaker 4: 1980s down in the meatpacking district with that killer that

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00:55:18,350 --> 00:55:20,570
Speaker 4: you're referencing in The Exorcist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I can't tell how much of this– I don't

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00:55:24,469 --> 00:55:29,670
Speaker 4: want to– The bag murders? Yes. See, I don't want

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Speaker 4: to go into the Wikipedia of it all. Okay. And

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Speaker 4: I kind of want to preserve the surprise of the

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00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:45,140
Speaker 4: storytelling here. There's so much of this filmmaking, I just

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00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,930
Speaker 4: watched the pilot, that I can tell is informed by

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00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:53,750
Speaker 4: real life historical, by the real world of that time.

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00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:56,870
Speaker 4: Like the specifics, there's this like bathhouse that they hang

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00:55:56,950 --> 00:56:00,259
Speaker 4: out at. And there's this, like, I'm pretty sure it's

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00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,620
Speaker 4: a woman and not a man in drag as a woman.

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00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,900
Speaker 4: Like this Shantus who's, it's a bathhouse with like the baths.

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00:56:08,540 --> 00:56:09,739
Speaker 1: And a bar. Yeah.

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00:56:09,950 --> 00:56:13,990
Speaker 4: And then the woman performing. Again, there's like a pool there.

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00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:16,910
Speaker 4: Like it's all too insane for it not to have

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00:56:17,050 --> 00:56:19,299
Speaker 4: actually been a thing. Like no one would ever go like,

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00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 4: oh yeah, these people hung out at this fucking bath house.

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00:56:22,780 --> 00:56:26,089
Speaker 4: And in the bath, there was a fucking live performer

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00:56:26,530 --> 00:56:29,370
Speaker 4: and a bar and some dude in street clothes and

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00:56:29,390 --> 00:56:32,430
Speaker 4: then dudes in like nothing. It's just too random for

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00:56:32,450 --> 00:56:34,710
Speaker 4: it to not be true. Like no filmmaker would do

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00:56:34,750 --> 00:56:38,230
Speaker 4: that unless they were doing something fantastical. So the other

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00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 4: kind of murdery shit that's going on the serial killer

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00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 4: side of it, it's so extreme. And I'm like, God,

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00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,620
Speaker 4: is this like, and I'm vaguely remembering it from your script.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But it's done really fucking well. I think you dig it.

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00:56:50,620 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: And I've never watched an American.

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,060
Speaker 1: Horror Story before. I haven't either.

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00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,340
Speaker 4: I haven't either. I mean, season 11 is a weird

1114
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:56,060
Speaker 4: place to start.

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00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,570
Speaker 1: I was going to say, that's a lot of fucking,

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00:56:57,620 --> 00:56:59,310
Speaker 1: I didn't realize, I thought there were like three seasons

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00:56:59,350 --> 00:57:00,469
Speaker 1: of that show. I didn't realize there was 11.

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00:57:00,469 --> 00:57:03,610
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think 13 is the one that just launched.

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00:57:03,730 --> 00:57:03,950
Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, I'm digging it. I don't even know what it's called.

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00:57:06,530 --> 00:57:08,170
Speaker 4: It's just season 11. I think it might be called

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00:57:08,190 --> 00:57:09,870
Speaker 4: like 1984 or something like that.

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Speaker 1: All right, cool. Well, there you go.

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00:57:11,969 --> 00:57:12,509
Speaker 4: There's some Rex.

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Speaker 1: Dirty Rex.

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00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:13,529
Speaker 3: Thanks, man.

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00:57:13,950 --> 00:57:15,650
Speaker 4: You got your dirty Rex.

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00:57:16,530 --> 00:57:16,830
Speaker 1: All right.

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00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:17,590
Speaker 4: Later, guys. Later.

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Speaker 3: All right, gang.

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00:57:35,140 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: There you go. Halloween-themed dirty Rex. Songs to put on

1132
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: your Halloween playlist. A couple of movies to fire up.

1133
00:57:42,090 --> 00:57:44,290
Speaker 1: I know I've already asked you the question, but if

1134
00:57:44,330 --> 00:57:47,230
Speaker 1: you've got more scary shit for us all here to

1135
00:57:47,290 --> 00:57:49,650
Speaker 1: cram in the next few weeks, get at me and

1136
00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: tell us all or forever hold your peace. 617-906-6638. You

1137
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: can email disgracelandpod at gmail.com. Speaking of which, Sirius XM,

1138
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: which I listen to in my car, they have a station,

1139
00:58:03,740 --> 00:58:07,980
Speaker 1: a Halloween station, but the Halloween station is not live.

1140
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: It's October 20th as I record this and the Halloween

1141
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: station is is not live. It does not go live until,

1142
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: I think, Thursday this week. What the hell is going

1143
00:58:16,540 --> 00:58:20,780
Speaker 1: on at Sirius? Your Halloween station starts on October 22nd?

1144
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,750
Speaker 1: That's fucking crazy, man. We carved pumpkins this past weekend,

1145
00:58:25,050 --> 00:58:29,209
Speaker 1: and guess what tunage we were not soundtracking that experience with?

1146
00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:32,030
Speaker 1: It was not the SiriusXM station. So I don't know, guys.

1147
00:58:32,050 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: You got to reevaluate that plan. That's some bad programming plan.

1148
00:58:35,470 --> 00:58:38,700
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll link in Jake's Halloween playlist that he has

1149
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,700
Speaker 1: over on Spotify somewhere. Maybe Matt can toss it In

1150
00:58:41,740 --> 00:58:44,820
Speaker 1: the show notes, if I supply the link, we'll see.

1151
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Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's recap here, guys. Number one, first

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Speaker 1: of all, right now in your Hollywoodland feed, our episode

1153
00:58:51,850 --> 00:58:55,710
Speaker 1: on Poltergeist. Number two, coming at you this Friday, we've

1154
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:57,710
Speaker 1: got a new episode of The Screening Room, and this

1155
00:58:57,750 --> 00:59:01,650
Speaker 1: week I'm talking all about the 2017 David Lowery film,

1156
00:59:01,850 --> 00:59:06,070
Speaker 1: A Ghost Story. Number three, next week on Monday, we're

1157
00:59:06,090 --> 00:59:08,870
Speaker 1: bringing you our fully scripted and sound design episode on

1158
00:59:08,930 --> 00:59:13,110
Speaker 1: Jane Mansfield. Number four, over in our sister show, Disgraceland,

1159
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:15,930
Speaker 1: we've got a previously exclusive but new to most of

1160
00:59:15,970 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: you episode on Alice Cooper. No more Mr. Nice Guy,

1161
00:59:19,580 --> 00:59:23,500
Speaker 1: shock rock extraordinaire, Hollywood vampire, very apropos to this time

1162
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: of year. Check it out on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app,

1163
00:59:27,340 --> 00:59:31,170
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Number five, this film

1164
00:59:31,230 --> 00:59:35,350
Speaker 1: should be played loud, our video podcast on Patreon. We

1165
00:59:35,370 --> 00:59:38,610
Speaker 1: got an episode on Gross Point Blank that's out right now.

1166
00:59:38,970 --> 00:59:41,410
Speaker 1: A new episode on Shaun of the Dead coming at

1167
00:59:41,450 --> 00:59:44,340
Speaker 1: you a week from today. But remember, you can only

1168
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: watch this film should be played loud on Patreon as

1169
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,860
Speaker 1: a member of Disgraceland All Access. And to do so,

1170
00:59:51,420 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: just go to disgracelandpod.com to sign up. And now in

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00:59:55,620 --> 00:59:58,610
Speaker 1: honor of this week's episode, Here's what America was watching

1172
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,500
Speaker 1: at the movies in June 1982, the month that Poltergeist

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01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:09,140
Speaker 1: was released in theaters. Number one, E.T. The Extraterrestrial, directed

1174
01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: by Steven Spielberg. Number two, Rocky III, directed by Sylvester Stallone.

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01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,500
Speaker 1: Number three, Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan, directed

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01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:24,410
Speaker 1: by Nicholas Meyer. Number four, Poltergeist, directed by Tobey Hooper.

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01:00:25,550 --> 01:00:31,940
Speaker 1: Number five, Firefox, directed by Clint Eastwood. Number six, Annie,

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01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:37,420
Speaker 1: directed by John Huston. Number seven, Diner, directed by Barry Levinson.

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01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,770
Speaker 1: Number eight, Porky's, directed by Paul... Sometimes, that is better.

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Speaker 2: Cut it!