1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen a hat. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Although mass incarceration harms Black America as a whole, it's 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: more direct victims are the poorest, least educated Blacks. While 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: the lifetime risk of incarceration skyrocketed for African American male 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: high school dropouts with the advent of mass incarceration, it 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: actually decreased slightly for Black men with some college education. 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: As a result, by the year two thousand, the lifetime 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: risk of incarceration for black high school dropouts was ten 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: times higher than it was for African Americans who had 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: attended college. Hey, welcome to The Blackout His podcast, your 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: host Rod. 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: And Karen Fowl. 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 4: We are back. 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: It took a little bit of a break, and I know, 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: you know, the number one question on a lot of 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: people's mind was what we supposed to do about the 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: Walking Dead, Like y'all supposed to recap this, and y'all 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: took that week off, and the show didn't take a 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: week off, so y'all still gotta recap it. And you 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: know what, you're absolutely fucking right. Yeah, absolutely, So before 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: we get started on anything, we're gonna go ahead and 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: give you guys, your recapital walking dead. Okay, there's a 24 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: lot of stuff that happened in the last week that 25 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: was interesting that we do want to talk about, but 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: we know that we can't just hop right into that 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: without giving you, guys, your fix, your need. So let's 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: get into it. I imagine that this will be a short one, 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: pretty straightforward. 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: Plus we got ship to do. 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: But uh, we're still gonna give you the recap you 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: demand and deserve and need. 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 4: Goddamn it. 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: So the name of this episode was Silent It's the whispers. 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: It was about let's see, what's the best way to 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: described this episode. It was. 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: It was about Lydia trying to live, Okay, Lydia, just Lydia, 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: just want to live, okay, God. 40 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: And it was about how a hilltop had a tree 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: fall and if a tree fall is a hilltop and 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: nobody's there to see it, does it really happen? And 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: does it make a sound? Yes? 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: Because zombies gonna all right, this this episode is called silence, right, 45 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,559 Speaker 2: but yeah, this episode is called Silence the Whistlers. 46 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: Karen, what do you think about this episode in general? 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it? Uh, it really really uh Uh the 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: kind of basing the reality. They made it real life 49 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: about how people fuck up and people don't want to 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: forgive like like like they really hit that, like people 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: fuck up. And they even had niggas in jail, like 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: they had him locked up. He was in jail, locked up, 53 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: separated from them. He has done everything they asks. He's 54 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: not breaking the rules, he's following everything to the tea 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: and then y'all and in time, it's been like six years, 56 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: so some time has passed. And I'm not trying to 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: say they need to quote unquote get over immediately, but 58 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: time has passed, you know. And the only thing that 59 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: would show us he has changed his time. And the 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: thing is they're like, Nope, you have done this thing. 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: We will never forgive you for this thing. Never never, never, never, 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: never ever forgive you. Even though everybody has fucked up 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: and everybody has made flaws, and everybody had somebody that 64 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: had to forgive them, being your brothers and sisters, being 65 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: your parents, be it your nieces, and if somebody somewhere 66 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: had to forgive you for something, But when it comes 67 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: to other people, we don't. We don't extend that same compassion. 68 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: That's the longest you ever talked when I that's how 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: did you like the show? Normally you just say I 70 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: liked it. Oh, yes, I loved it. 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: Oh well done? At any rate, I liked it. 72 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: I thought it was a good episode. And we'll get 73 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: into some of the specifics. But I like the interaction 74 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: between Lydia and Nagan and seeing I like when we 75 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: see our group not as just the moral perfection, and 76 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: that our group has flaws too. I'm a big fan 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: of that. I'm tired of like, you know, just we 78 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: root for our group fuck everybody else. I'm like, nah, 79 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: I kind of like seeing how things interact and break down. 80 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: And of course at Hilltop, you know, there's a lot 81 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: going on, and of course there's a big old kiss 82 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: in this episode. Yes, all right, So I broke it 83 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: down into two different groups. There's things that happen at 84 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: Alexandra and there's things that happen at Hilltop. Hilltop is 85 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: much shorter, so I'll just do that and then we'll 86 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: get in Alexandria. So it starts with this montage, and 87 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: it's both locations at you know, different times. The main 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: part of Hilltop's montage that we see is that Yumico 89 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: and Magna are lovers, and they are like smanging, just 90 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: just scissoring each other's cakes, just smanging, smitherings. 91 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: They are getting down. 92 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: And then we see in the morning Zeke who's no 93 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: longer like you know, a king over at Hilltop. 94 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: He's just a Zeke from Detroit. 95 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: He wakes up and like he's coming out of the bathroom 96 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: and walks past like Umico or Magna, and doesn't even speak, 97 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: and he looks very despondent. He lays in the bed. 98 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: He's depressed. I mean, he lost lost everything. 99 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: His kingdom, is woman, his son, like everything. You know. 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: He's having a hard time and so he's laying up 101 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: in bed depressed. 102 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: And then he hears a. 103 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Sound from outside, runs outside and a tree has fallen 104 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: down on some of the houses, on like a barn 105 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: or something inside of the hilltop, and it's like falling 106 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: over the wall area from outside into the inside. 107 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: So of course you have a bunch of concerns, like 108 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 4: the noise. 109 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: The fact that it's laying on the gate, the injuries 110 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: to people inside, and everyone has to get organized quickly 111 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: to fix this. Connie and Kelly even start to worry, 112 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: like in sign language, like Connie's convinced that it's the 113 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: whispers that pushed the tree down. 114 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: Now, what did you consider that it might be done? 115 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: I just figured out they united forest trees fall all 116 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: the time, and I think that not fund the size 117 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: of that tree. Data had to do a lot of 118 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: parking work to tip that shit over. And it don't 119 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: sound like it's the mo sound like we just roll 120 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 3: up with zanbas. We're not trying to put in any 121 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: extra work. 122 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 123 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: I think kind of the theme of this season so 124 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: far has been the paranoia of dealing with the Whispers, 125 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: being that they can hide among the dead, and there's 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: so many of them and you never know when they're 127 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: coming and what's directly them and what's not. It seems 128 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: like our group has had several situations where they thought 129 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: the Whispers are around. You had the mask that they 130 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: found in ocean side. You had when they had the 131 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: fire or whatever they didn't want to cross over into 132 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: the other boundaries to look for, you know, or whatever 133 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: to look for them. You had the waves of walkers 134 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: that hit them last week. Then you had this tree. 135 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: And every time it's like stuff that it could be 136 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: just the environment. Trees fall down sometimes the waves of 137 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: zombies could have been attracted to the satellite making that 138 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: booming sound. 139 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: And I try to ignore Eugene, but that was new. 140 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: Eugene was like, now this was a sonic boom. This 141 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: was like, this wasn't nothing regular, Like it literally draws 142 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 3: probably drew shit from hundreds of miles away in this direction. 143 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: And then when Machean cut that walker's face off, you know, 144 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: we were like, I was like, well, maybe that was 145 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: the It wasn't a mask, it was just that. 146 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: But I think the point is they're paranoid, and rightfully. 147 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: So because when they had that meet up, Alpha basically 148 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: told them every single time they had ever crossed their land, 149 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: so they got odds everywhere they are watching them, and 150 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: so now you think, are they going to be aggressive? 151 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: They took away their Honting land last week after that 152 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: negotiation went wrong with Carol tried to shoot her and shit, 153 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: So it seems like the whole thing is, uh, this 154 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: treat to me. I didn't think the tree was them, 155 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: but the fact that our group thinks it says a 156 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: lot about the position I group is in correct. 157 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: And they had just been up thirty something two outlights ridiculous, 158 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: So everybody's tired. 159 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 4: Well, not in Hilltop. 160 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right. My bad, bad, My bad, Hillton, Yes, 161 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: here on Hilltop now separate group, My bad. 162 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: But they're still paranoid out in the earl out in 163 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: an earl over here, Connie and Kelly basically saying like 164 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: could it be the Whispers? And they're like, it is them, 165 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: It's definitely them. 166 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 4: And then Zeke. 167 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: Jerry asked Zeke, like, hey, boss, what should we do? 168 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: You know, should we do this? 169 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: That and the other? 170 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: And Zeke freezes right, and you he's asking him because 171 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: literally he's the only leadership position there. Literally everybody else 172 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: that quote unquote has for a form of a leadership 173 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: position isn't there at the time. So it is literally 174 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: his call to make a decision. But I think because 175 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: of the where his mind is and how he feels, 176 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 3: he just questioning every judgment he makes, so other people 177 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: start making decisions because it's like something got to be done. 178 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: We can't sit here and stare at you while you 179 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: make a non decision. 180 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: Well he actually what I like about this moment is 181 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: that Jerry asks a ask him, boss, what should we do? 182 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 4: Zeke freezes right. He looks like a deer headlights. 183 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: Jerry then kind of tries to be like, well, oh, 184 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: look you want you need to go inside, like kind 185 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: of the like he knows Zeke is having some issues, 186 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: and Jerry so used to like covering for him and 187 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: putting him above everybody else, and Zeke is the one 188 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: who says, no, it's other people trapped. Don't worry about me, 189 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: worry about the helping people. And so they basically come 190 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: up with a plan to try to rescue people. But 191 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: they can't all go in there together because if everybody 192 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: gets in there and starts running around in this barn 193 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: that has a tree on top of it, it might fall 194 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: down and collapse on everyone. So they're gonna have to 195 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: go in one by one and get everybody out. And 196 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: then the zombie show up at the fits the different area, 197 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: attracted by the noise, and that's when the like you know, 198 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: the Walking Dead theme starts. Then on the road to Hilltop, 199 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: leaving Alexandria is Micheone and a couple of other people 200 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: and Judas with them, I think Eugene was with them, 201 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: and they they basically have a conversation about what happened 202 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 2: to Carol, because Carol, we saw got cut up. Judas 203 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: saw it and she's like, I see, and Carrol got 204 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: shot up. Was about the whispers and Michean's like Carol 205 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: was shooting at them, that is. 206 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: The other way around. 207 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: And then you know, and it's it's interesting because you know, 208 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: you got this fine line where you want your kid 209 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: to be a kid in the epoch, but it's the 210 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: epoch and it's danger everywhere, and Judith is pretty fucking capable. 211 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 3: So yeah, she got that gap when which mccaullough came 212 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: in there, and she's still a top of the stairs. 213 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: But like, fuck with my mom if you won't. 214 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: To right, like she's about that life. 215 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: Som Sean's like, listen, we uh went to she tells 216 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: her the truth. We went to meet up with Alpha 217 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: and them. Carol tried to kill her and we stopped it. 218 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: But you know, she took all she took all the 219 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: land low you know, she took our hunting grounds because of. 220 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: That and uh, because she wasn't gonna tell her at all. 221 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: But Judus was like, you know, maybe I could be 222 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: another set of ears, maybe I have another you know perspective. 223 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a very very smart, uh little girl, and 224 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: she can sense machone like, like, like all children can 225 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: you know, just like parents know their children, children know 226 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: their parents. So she you know, that's why the last 227 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: episode she was like, is it okay to rest? Is 228 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: everything okay? Like she was asking, you know, trying to 229 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: figure out shit on her own. I'm pretty sure she 230 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: was watching a lot too. So she's not a child 231 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: that you might as well tell her the truth because 232 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: she learned if you don't tell her the truth, she's 233 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: gonna gonna hunt for it and you ain't gonna like 234 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: the way she finds it, So just go ahead and 235 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 3: just be flat flat with her. 236 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so she basically gives us some words of wisdom. 237 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: Uh, Michelle is like, look, when you start negotiating with 238 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: a bully, you really can't trust them. 239 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: So we don't even know if she gonna keep her word. 240 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: You'll watch their actions, not what they're telling you. She 241 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: also said that some bullies you can't negotiate with and 242 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: you can't just live with, and something you can. And 243 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: basically you watch their actions and when the actions are unexpected, 244 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: you know that. And she trails off, and then Judas says, well, 245 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: what if you know how when we want our j 246 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: to go to sleep. We let her, you say, let 247 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: him run around, he's gonna get tired, and then we 248 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 2: put them to sleep. And she said, what if that's 249 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: what they're doing to us, Like they got us running 250 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: around and all this ship, like they're sending the waves 251 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,479 Speaker 2: of walkers at us, crashing the tree into the uh 252 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: into the hilltop. What if they're doing all this ship 253 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: just to like, you know, make us, make us tired so. 254 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: That we're easier to kill. 255 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: And then before before they can get further into that. 256 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: I actually had the scene here Judith spots Ezekiel on 257 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: horseback by himself. 258 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: So I'll play the club, I mean, not Judter Michelle. 259 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: Of course, let alone for a second. You see something. 260 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 3: Like sticking out here. I don't know you guys keep 261 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: righting to hilltop head black Timm thanks. 262 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: For so she sends Judith and them to Hilltop without 263 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: her so she can go check on Ezekiel. 264 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: She comes to a clearing. 265 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: Ezekiel has taken his horse, gotten off his horse, walked 266 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: off to like basically a cliff, and he's standing there 267 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: and it's clear that he's contemplating jumping right, and so 268 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: we knew he was desponded. We saw he was out 269 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: of it during the tree crisis. We see, you know, 270 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: we know he's lost his son, his kingdom, his wife 271 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: is everything, you know, his So I guess he's contemplating 272 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: ending it all. 273 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: And so Sham comes up to see try to save him. 274 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: You should go, Can you step away from the edge, and. 275 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: He was like, don't push me, because. 276 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: But I'm not going anywhere. 277 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: She stands next to him on the edge and then 278 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: she holds his hand and he let out that black man, 279 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying not to cry, sigh strong and they hug 280 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: and then their dreads link up like in Avatar. Okay, 281 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: and then you get all sense of coming. 282 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: He kisses her, and I mean, look at this kiss. 283 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: She kind of returned that joint and then she pulled 284 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: a white Now listen, it has been six years since 285 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: she since Rick disappeared, and a woman has needs. All right, 286 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: don't judge her for this kid, y'all. 287 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: No, no, no, And it was so funny is that 288 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: I don't judge either party, and that I know that 289 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: might sound weird for me, but it's just the fact 290 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: that he's lonely, she's lonely. It's one of those things 291 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: where if situation would have been normal, he wouldn't even 292 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: even even have attempted something like that. And I do 293 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: think that he just wanted kind of a woman's touch, 294 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: if that makes sense, Like he just wanted you know 295 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like he misses Carol, like Carol is 296 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: his love and she knows that. So it's one of 297 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: those things where she's like, oh, no, no, no, baby, 298 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: I know this. I know that you did not mean 299 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: to do this at this period of time. 300 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: And I don't think we're supposed to judge the kiss, 301 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: to be honest, like, like I thought about this, and 302 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: especially the conversation they have immediately after the kiss. I 303 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: think that was really a little bit of a fan 304 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: like a nod to the fans of the comic, because afterwards, 305 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: when they talk about it like they're not it's not 306 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: like a you know, why'd you kiss me? 307 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 4: What was wrong with you? 308 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: Or or what should we see when this relationship goes 309 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: like they're immediately like, you know, we wouldn't work out. 310 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: We both do stubborn And he says maybe in another universe, 311 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: and I said, oh, this is for us comic book readers, 312 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: because in the comic book, Zeke and Macheon were together 313 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: for a long time and like that was like a 314 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: dope couple to me, and then the comic books Macheone 315 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: only days black men, so like at one point even 316 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: Dayton Gabriel, who was crazy as hell, like she's like, 317 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: I like chocolate. Okay, I'm not doing this with y'all, 318 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: so uh yeah, it was. It was kind of an 319 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: interesting it was an interesting situation the kiss or whatever, 320 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: and then they then he also brings up like, you know, 321 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 2: I lost the Kingdom, I lost Carol. I don't even 322 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 2: know how to talk to her no more. And Machean 323 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: then has a very emotional speech about losing Rick Rick 324 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: and how she was suicidal and back in the day, 325 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 2: cause if. 326 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: You don't, if you remember, ma Sean's origin. 327 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: Story is like she was a lawyer who lost her baby, 328 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: like her child got. 329 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: Killed, her boyfriend. 330 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: And brother got killed, and then she ended up like 331 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: making them her zombies and shit. But she talks about 332 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: how even after the prison there was this moment where 333 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: she wanted to like die, she had she no longer 334 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: wanted to walk with the zombies chained up, she couldn't 335 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: go back to it, and then she went and killed 336 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: like fucking twenty. 337 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: Zombies in a row and all this shit. 338 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: So so she's like, look, I've been through a lot, right, 339 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 2: And then after losing Rick, she's like, look, man, I 340 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: used to be a part of you know, that dynamic duo, 341 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: you know, her partner in crime, and now I don't 342 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: have that no more, and it's all on me and 343 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: I'm raising these kids by myself. And so they both 344 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: kind of have a moment of reflection, and she also 345 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: tells him like, you know, when they're walking out, like 346 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: you know, you're pretty good kissing. 347 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: He was like, oh, that wasn't my best work. I'm shabby. 348 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 2: Uh just a my I remember lowist and he was 349 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: like also, she was like, I haven't kissed anybody of 350 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: a folk feet tall in six years. 351 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 4: So and then he was like uh. 352 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: Then she basically makes tells him don't not to do 353 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: that again, like if he's feeling that way, don't ride 354 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: out alone and all this type of stuff, and he 355 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: thanks her. 356 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: So that was, like I said, it was kind. 357 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: Of a cute moment or whatever, and kind of hopeful, 358 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's you know what it was. It was 359 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: the opposite of Eugene and Rosita. Yes, like it didn't 360 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: turn into a friend zone or you owe me. You know, 361 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: I was nice to you some point. 362 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: It's like they both understood that this was going nowhere. 363 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, yeah, we're good at that. 364 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: So then Hilltop they all rushing and well they realized 365 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: during the rescue that there's more people, and. 366 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: Then there's walkers coming, and the walkers. 367 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: Are weighing on the fence, which might knock the tree 368 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: down and destroy. 369 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 4: Everybody, kill everyone. 370 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: So they're like, we need to go outside and kill 371 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: these walkers because they gonna fucking kill everybody if we 372 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: don't correct. And uh, they go outside and it's the 373 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: crew that new crew, Luke, Connie, Kelly. 374 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: You had to try. Huh, yes, you had to try. 375 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 4: I like the at least you went for it. Magna Magna. 376 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: It's all good. 377 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: I don't get the names in front of me, y'all. 378 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 379 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: They go out out to like kill the kill the 380 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: walkers and ward them off or whatever before they can 381 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: weigh on the fence and fucking kill everybody and ship. 382 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: And it's some pretty cool zombie action. 383 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not something I can really show everybody, 384 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: because you know, it's just they all got like the 385 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: new people got cool weapons and shit. Now, so that 386 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 2: was cool to see them like swinging around fucking like 387 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: hatchets and you know, all. 388 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: Kinds of stuff. But the highlight to me. 389 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: As they started defeeding the zombies, like they have an argument, right, 390 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: and they went out in the afternoon, but it's nighttime 391 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: and they're still out there fighting zombies. 392 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: Right, so they've been fighting for a hot minute. 393 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 5: Right. 394 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: Once again a John Normous heard of zombie, so they 395 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: realize it's too many. 396 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 4: They've saved all the people. They say, get back inside. 397 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: Right, and because that was the gold, right, But Magna 398 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: doesn't want to. 399 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: She's like, no, we got to protect. 400 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: The wall because the wall's going to fall if we 401 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: go inside and the zombies keep approaching that wall where 402 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: the tree fell. We actually got to kill them until though, 403 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: you know, until there's not enough, none left and everybody. 404 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: Uh Umico is the one that's kind of de facto 405 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: in charge. 406 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: Now. 407 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: If you guys, remember we didn't see this at first 408 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: because when Umico arrived in Alexandria, she had the concussion, right, 409 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: so she was the one that we never really got 410 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: to see how her where her interactions were in the group. 411 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: Turns out that she's somewhat of a leader, right, So 412 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: Yumico basically Counterman's magna. And everyone says get inside, and 413 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: they all run inside, and as soon as they get inside, 414 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: the walkers make part of the gate fall down, right. 415 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: And the thing is, it was almost like a kiss 416 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: twenty two because her Umico's thing was, if we stay 417 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: out here, we will die, like it is literally too 418 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: many of them, We've been fighting four hours, like this 419 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: is too much. 420 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: Right, and also like they had some close calls, like 421 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: zombies were following on people, you know, like someone could 422 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: have got bit. It only takes uh, only takes one time, right, 423 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: it bitten, And all of a sudden it's fucked up. 424 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: So once they get inside, they start rallying. 425 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 4: To defending the breach. And this is when we get 426 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: one of. 427 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: The coolest action sequences in my opinion, it's when Maeon 428 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: and Judith link up and we see both of them 429 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: using swords and synchronize action. 430 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 3: That ship was so cute, Yes, and it reminds me 431 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 3: so much a call Yes, because the thing is is 432 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: that you can tell she's been training and her thing is, 433 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to be useless like Micheone fought her 434 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: so long and treateored her as a kid, and she 435 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: was like, look, I'm yes, I am a child, but 436 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: at the same time, I am going to defend myself 437 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: whether you want me to or not, so you may 438 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: as well train me. And so you could tell that 439 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: she spent some time with her because she literally turned 440 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: around and Judas was fucking the zombies. 441 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 4: Up that Shiit was so adorable. 442 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: And then like they even have a moment where they 443 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: shows Michelle's face and she's watching Judath and she kind 444 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: of smiles like that's my girl. 445 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: Look at her fucking that zombie up. 446 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a beast when she gets older. 447 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: God, that shit was so doop. So then after after 448 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: they killed the zombies or whatever, uh, Michelle was talking 449 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: about going up the ocean side because they saw a 450 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: walker there or whisper they think a whisper. They saw 451 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 2: whisper there, and Luke asked, can he go? And they 452 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: clowned him because they know he really want to go. 453 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: You go, You're going up there for them for that 454 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: for that woman, I was throwing that thing. I ain't 455 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 3: at you. 456 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Jules was her name, and she had. 457 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: She was the tall woman who was flirting with him 458 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: when he was up there, and he he didn't even 459 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: realize what was happening. 460 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: And so he's like, you know, I too feel the 461 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 4: call of the ocean. 462 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: Uh. It's like, I bet you do the motion of 463 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: the ocean. 464 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: And then of course, of course Eugene decides to stay 465 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: in Hilltop and help repair their fence, which I think 466 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: we all know is really about he had show his 467 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: face in Alexandria again and be around Rosita, who he 468 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: you know, is just forlorn over whatever. 469 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 4: So he ain't coming back. 470 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: And he was like, I just regret that I won't 471 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: be able to, you know, to escort Judith back to 472 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: to Alexandria, because they're also sending in some stuff to Alexandria. 473 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: And Michean like, oh, don't worry about that. She come 474 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: with me my ride and eye. 475 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 3: I wouldn't dare let her. Yeah, she come with wherever 476 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: I go. She's going, because I think Micheone's like, oh, 477 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: she can defend herself, Like I don't really have to 478 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: worry about her anymore. So it's like mm hm, now 479 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: she come with me. 480 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: So then Magna and Umico have an argument later, and 481 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: it's basically we find out because we know Magna used 482 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: to be a criminal. Like at one point, I think 483 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: it was Aaron or somebody was bringing up during to 484 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: Alexandria meeting about whether they could stay there. 485 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 4: Like she been in the prison. You know, we just 486 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: can't just let her stay in here. And so. 487 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: The thing is Umico and her getting this fight, and 488 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: it seemed like one of those fights where it's not 489 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: really about what the thing is about. And her thing 490 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: is like, you told us to come in, you know, 491 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: we could have took those zombies and she's like what 492 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: was like, no, we we had to to save everybody 493 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: we had already did. Blah blah blah. She's like, you know, like, 494 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: what's just really about? And then she was like, you're 495 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: not my lawyer anymore. And so it sounds like their 496 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: relationship is Umico used to be the lawyer for career criminal, yeah, Magna. 497 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 498 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: And then the zepop happened, so then it didn't matter 499 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: no more. 500 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: Right, But that relationship, that that power dynamic must not 501 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: have completely gone away, or it could just also be 502 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: that Magna's insecure about it, right, you know, So then 503 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: everyone says goodbye, and they head out to Oceanside and 504 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 2: Luke gets a super long goodbye. I don't know if 505 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: you noticed this, but his goodbye was much much longer 506 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: than everybody else's, Like michean just kind of like all right, y'all, 507 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: and you know, everyone's kind of you know, speaking or whatever. 508 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: But for some reason, well he said goodbye. That shit 509 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 2: was like he was hugging everybody. He stops and points 510 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: and waves at people. 511 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been separated and stuff before, but I think 512 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: this is the first time where they gotta feel it's 513 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: gonna be for a longer period of time. 514 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it and it did feel like he's going 515 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 2: up there to pursue that woman, and maybe he looked at. 516 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: So he may not come back. 517 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 2: And they had a big thing about how they need 518 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: to stay together not too long ago. But I could 519 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: not help but notice how long it's fucking goodbye was. 520 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 4: Oh damn, that's the wrong link. I guess I don't. 521 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: Have that video, but yeah, it was as long as fuck, 522 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: like wave, hug, wave, nod to somebody hitting the car 523 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: back and waved everybody else. 524 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: Point yeah, point pointing you back at three houses down. 525 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like when someone's getting a standing ovation. 526 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: You guys know that when a standing ovation you see 527 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: like a live something live and it's and it goes 528 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: too long, like it's like regular standingnovation like say that's 529 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: the thirty seconds, but it's one of those standing ovations 530 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: where it's going into the uncomfortable like one minute learned range. 531 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: And so now they got to start thinking the extra 532 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: shit to do to be like all right, now, double. 533 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: Point to you, I see you in the bag. 534 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my hands together in a thank you 535 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: manna and bow. Okay, y'all still ain't stopped. All right, 536 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put both hands up. 537 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: Like yeah, and that just makes it worse. 538 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: Everybody like, okay, I'm finally I'm trying to shut y'all down. 539 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: Oh y'all won't stop. Okay, now I'm doing the all 540 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 4: shucks motion. You guys are sold. You guys are too much. 541 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: Like it's like it's like it was like it was 542 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: like that number now it was that level of good. 543 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: Voss said, damn man, are they gonna kill Luke? 544 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: I hope not because that felt like goodbye forever like 545 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: and I and I mean, you have to wonder, right, 546 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: because we know Michean's gonna be off the show, and 547 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: I wonder if this is kind of the sign of 548 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: they're going to ocean Side, She's taking Judith. Something's gonna 549 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: happen where basically Micheane and Judith are. 550 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 4: On the show anymore. 551 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: And this will help Rick be reunited with Judith and 552 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: micheone and whatever that spin off movie they do. And 553 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: and Luke may have to get he may get killed 554 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: during this, during this trip or something, because it just felt. 555 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 4: Too it was too much. 556 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: It was too much, all right, he steps up in 557 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: some from a leadership position in Oceanside. 558 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, wish for thinking and all that. 559 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just positive. I like Luke. 560 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 4: I like so I don't want to see him go, 561 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 4: But I don't know that good bye was forty five seconds? 562 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: Like what the fuck? 563 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: They don't even do that for Like if Daryl says, hey, 564 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to so and so Carol, it's not for 565 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: Nigga said goodbye to everyone in that goddamn group. Anyway, 566 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: I hope nothing happened to him, But damn, that's what y'all. 567 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: Watch it again if y'all want to, y'all see what 568 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm talking about You'll be like. 569 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: Damn, nigga, I'll long take the say goodbye. 570 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: It's like waiting for your mama to get out the 571 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: phone when you want to go somewhere. 572 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I'm about to take uh, I'm about 573 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 4: to take Roger to the pool? What girl? She did? 574 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: What? 575 00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: Now? Hold up? 576 00:30:59,760 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: Now? 577 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: Okay, well look I'm gonna call you back. He ready 578 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 4: to go to the pool. 579 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: What else I think? 580 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: Now hold on? 581 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: No, when you're looking like mama, That's. 582 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 4: How I felt, all right? And then Alexandria. 583 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: We open with a matage to Daryl chilling with Micheaun's 584 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: family at dinner. Then he brings some food from dinner 585 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: to Carol's room. Carol doesn't open the door. We see 586 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: some deep walking around out, sweaty, looking dazed and confused. 587 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: Lydia sees it, nobody else really sees it. Then he 588 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: runs off another direction. I don't know anything about PTSD, 589 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: so I don't know if people are into this portrayal 590 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: of it or not. 591 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 4: It's kind of like I know about having asthma. 592 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: So when I've watched movies and characters and TV shows 593 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: or they have asthma is a plot device. I always 594 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: am like, you know, I'm always judging to be like 595 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: is that close to what the sipsters look like? 596 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: Or is that fake? And you know a lot of 597 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 4: times it's not good. 598 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: But I always wonder how and maybe PTSD very so 599 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: much per person that it looks differently. 600 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 4: But I just wonder if they're doing a good job 601 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 4: or not. You know, I have nothing bad to. 602 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: Say about it because I don't know, right. 603 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: I just that's the thing. I watched it and recognized, like, well, 604 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: maybe that's the thing. He's sweating like he's in a panic. 605 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: He's running around at night. And then who knows what's 606 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: going on with Satik, you know. 607 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 4: So then. 608 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: Gabe and Rosie are walking the baby at night. We 609 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: see that Carol comes out of her room, gets dinner 610 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: in the morning. Lydia goes a train because there Aaron 611 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: is teaching everybody how to train to like defend themselves 612 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: against the whispers. And he's like, no, you already dead. 613 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: You're looking at your feet. You gotta do this, that 614 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: and the other. Right, and so three dude, three people 615 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: mock her. One of them is the woman who's in the. 616 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: Highwayman who wants revenge. 617 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: She's super pressed I do not like this woman, like 618 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: like you're new here, ma'am. We now in the highwayman, Okay, 619 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: you need to chill the fuck out, all right. The 620 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: group say, we ain't doing revenge yet, calm the fuck down, right, But. 621 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: You always gotta have somebody in the group to be like, 622 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 3: fuck what y'all doing. You'd be like, you all, you're 623 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: gonna get killed to get somebody else killed. Like that's 624 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: how it's always in here, right. 625 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: And then the other two, our gauge and the other 626 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: guy who I don't know if y'all remember, but when 627 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: they had that fair and and Healt and Kingdom and 628 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: the Kingdom when they had that fair, I believe they 629 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: were the two that were picking on Lydia back then. 630 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: And then she came over and like fucked them up. Okay, 631 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: So they. 632 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: Are hanging with Henry and that girl. 633 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: Or I don't know, I don't remember. 634 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: All of these are such side sea level carriter to me, 635 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: I just know that dicks, yes they are. And so 636 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: they pick on Lydia when she comes over the train 637 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: and basically like we got to do all this training 638 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: because you you the you, you the your mama weren't 639 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: killing everybody and they mock her and all this ship, 640 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: and so she walks off. Aaron notices it and doesn't 641 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: say anything. 642 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 3: Right now, I peeped that, and I fought him for 643 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: not correcting them and be like, chill the fuck out. 644 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 4: Well Aaron would come. Is kind of it's kind of 645 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: a bad He's in a bad place. 646 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: He's kind of like not as dangerous, but kind of 647 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: like Rosita when she tried to shoot Ningan. Well, she's 648 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: just so in her own head about like fuck everybody, 649 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: fuck everything, I'm angry and I'm just gonna stay angry. 650 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: Aaron's like that because you would think after Ningan saved 651 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: his life just last week, maybe he would change his 652 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: tune a little bit. But he's still blaming Ningan for 653 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: Eric's death. He's still keeping that same energy. He's basically 654 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: what Patty looks like. You're like, he's looking up Lydia's 655 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: old tweets, you know that kind of shit. 656 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 657 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 3: And also the thing is is like people have lost, 658 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 3: and I understand him being through so much loss because 659 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: he used to be optimistic and literally him and Micheone 660 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: swatt places because last season that was micheone. Fuck them 661 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: New niggas like nobody knew. It's never never, never, never 662 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 3: coming in again. And he fought her tooth and kneel 663 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: about being open minded letting people in. Like it's like, okay, 664 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 3: now it's done, going the other way where. 665 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he lost, he lost Jesus, he lost Eric and 666 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: you know, but like I said, you would have thought 667 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: last week he may have learned something from the fact 668 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 2: that he has saved his life. 669 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: And what's the what's the fucked up? 670 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 4: There's a lot of people like that. 671 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 3: It's like they go, Okay, you did something, but it 672 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: don't change who you are, Like like, like, it. 673 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: Don't change how I feel about you. I need I 674 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: need to stick to the script. 675 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 4: Of you ain't ship uh. And I'm not giving it up, right. 676 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 3: Because if I give it up, I guess what that 677 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 3: means I'm fucking wrong. And I'm not willing to admit 678 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 3: I fucked up. 679 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, some people, Uh, some people never get that. So 680 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: uh at any rate, he is up ignoring what they 681 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: just did to Lydia, which I just thought it was 682 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 2: very fucked up on Aaron's Park, right, because that was 683 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 2: a chance to nip it in the butt, and he 684 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 2: clearly didn't give a fuck. He didn't like Lydia either 685 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: for some reason. All right, So then Lydia and starts 686 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: playing with some worms over in Niga's garden, and he's. 687 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 4: Like moving some clothes, like to the to the laundry. 688 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 4: Mat I don't know, Barole. That's all he do is 689 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 4: work release, okay. 690 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: It a permanent work release. 691 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 4: And she's playing with her the worm in the garden. 692 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: I don't know she's gonna eat it for like, I 693 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 2: don't know if she's just helped fireworms to put in 694 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: the garden to help errate it, or she's just looking 695 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: for worms because she's like, I need a snack. Okay, 696 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: I am sick and tired of this ship. Worms take 697 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 2: me away. Henry would have loved some raw worms right 698 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: about now. It always took the edge off of the 699 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: earth worms. 700 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 3: Your third visiting a week. 701 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: You keep it up, you're gonna find some socks with 702 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: your name on them. 703 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 6: Engaging his friends started again today. 704 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: So you can always you get intimate from this conversation 705 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: they talk. She comes through that three times this week 706 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: to talk to Niga. 707 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 4: And part of the reason I think she's talking to Nigga. 708 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: And this is why Henry was so important, even though 709 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: I know if people hated Henry, they probably hate Lydia. 710 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 2: But he was the person that kept her in the 711 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: group like his his big heart was the reason that 712 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: that the group could not ignore Lydia and have some 713 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: empathy for her, even tho when they didn't want to, 714 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: because they raised this really empathic kid. This is what 715 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: happens when this is what happens when like you have 716 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 2: racist parents, right, you raise like racist parents. A lot 717 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: of times aren't like, hey, boy, don't play with niggers. 718 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: Like a lot of times their racism doesn't really come out, 719 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: and they don't want to teach the kid they're racist 720 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 2: values when they're young. What happens is the kids starts 721 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 2: getting to an age where they're out experiencing the world. 722 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 2: They're rebelling or they're just you know, exploring, and they 723 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 2: get they make a black friend, and that's when the 724 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 2: racism comes out. Hey, we don't hang out with this, 725 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 2: that and the other you know, we don't we. 726 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 4: Don't like that. 727 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 2: And so their kid is kind of the gateway because 728 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 2: they don't want to raise a racist kid, but they 729 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: but but you know, you want your kid to have 730 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 2: these great values. But you don't really believe in them. 731 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: That's kind of what happened with Henry. I think you 732 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: have this group where they're raising kids. They want their 733 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: kids to be open and still be kids and play 734 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 2: and have fun and learn and meet people and trust 735 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: each other. Except then you run into, you know, a 736 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: tough situation like the world with Lydia, and it's like, nah, 737 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: not now. And Henry just kept going like, nah, we 738 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: said that we this type of. 739 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 3: Way, right, and he basically pointed a mirror to be like, 740 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: y'all are basically going against everything y'all taught me, Like, 741 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 3: so what you taught me is a lie? 742 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 4: Right? 743 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 3: Because and that's the thing that adults don't want to 744 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 3: admit that sometimes they are contradictory to their children, or 745 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 3: they can say, they can say things that contradict themselves 746 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 3: to their children, and their children call them out on it, 747 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 3: and a lot of parents get angry and lash out 748 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 3: and they because they don't want to hear that, because 749 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: adults don't want to admit they wrong to their children. 750 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 3: But sometimes you actually fuck up. And another reason why 751 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 3: I think Lydia is talking to Unigan because out of 752 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,479 Speaker 3: everybody there, she knows that he understands right, nobody else 753 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 3: understands everybody else has always been accepted. Nobody else had 754 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 3: really ever been on the outside of the group and 755 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 3: was kind of integrated in and still have people looking 756 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 3: at them crazy because. 757 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 4: And what's interesting is the highwaymen not really part of 758 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 4: the group. 759 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: No they're not, but look at how quickly they assimilated 760 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: in and part of the group dynamics is that most 761 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: people consider loyalty to be loyalty to people. You know, 762 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm not one of these people. I consider loyalty to 763 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 2: be loyalty to your principles. But a lot of people 764 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: have been raised that loyalty means if your friend is wrong, 765 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 2: but they're your friend, you need to support them in 766 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: being wrong. And that's how I think most people seem 767 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 2: to navigate the world. That's not I'm not necessarily making 768 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: a judgment, but that's my life. My lived experience is 769 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 2: watching people when their friend do something fucked up, then 770 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,959 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's time for like, I gotta 771 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: support my friend, right. 772 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, because nobody wants to be outside of the group. 773 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: So to see Aaron, a veteran in our group, turn 774 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: and just turn a cold shoulder to Lydias and watch 775 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 2: that harassment. She's right, she's also picking up on that message. 776 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: It's okay to treat me this way. So what is 777 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 2: she gonna run? Of course she's gonna run the knee. 778 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: And he's strong, he's tough, he's made it through this. 779 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: He's also an outcast being judged for some shit that 780 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: he did years ago. Now they're not necessarily the same person, 781 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: but since everyone else is letting her be pushed away, 782 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: she's gonna go to him for advice. 783 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 4: So this is advice to her again. 784 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: Jesus. 785 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: All right, kids, Look, obviously you're having a day, but 786 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: you know what happened to. 787 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 3: Rolling with it. I'm not just gonna smile and take it. 788 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 4: I can't say that. 789 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: But I also didn't say running high. 790 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 3: I mean shit, you said to kill him with kindness. 791 00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 3: I did say that. 792 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: They are trying to get a reaction out of you. 793 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 5: They want to see you upset. 794 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: Don't give that to him. 795 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 4: Screw Let's go now. 796 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: She is just trying to fit in. Well, then that 797 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: ever gonna happen if she hangs out with you? 798 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: Now is it? We were just talking? He gets me? 799 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 3: Just stay away from him, all right? 800 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: M somebody has written on Lydia's door, uh silence the 801 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 2: whisperers and graffiti. 802 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it might as well say no nigga's allowed. 803 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, so so she's look alike. 804 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 3: But but you but we're uh huh, I'm supposed to 805 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 3: sit here and deal because it's the thing, like everybody 806 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 3: is missing it. It's like daryld is like fuck me. 807 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 3: She's like he's the only one that gets me. And 808 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 3: you walk up on this sign and she's looking like like, bitch, 809 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 3: what I'm supposed to do now, Like you telling me 810 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 3: it's gonna be all right, But it's not gonna be 811 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 3: all right. They're fucking harassing me and nobody is addressing 812 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: this issue right. 813 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: And other issue is that you know, Nigan's giving her advice, 814 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 2: and it seems that his initial advice was like, look, fuck. 815 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 4: Them, let them hate, just keep doing you. 816 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 2: Don't let it affect you. They want to see it 817 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: affect you. She goes back there to, you know, to 818 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: kind of be away from everybody insult. He's like, well, 819 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 2: they watching you. They're gonna see that you're being like 820 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: kind of weak, that they're that they're getting to you. 821 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 2: And when they get to you, like this, it makes 822 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 2: it worse for yourself, like you're not actually helping to 823 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 2: solve the problem. You know, you're actually gonna end up 824 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 2: dealing with more bullshit. So uh, you know, which makes sense, 825 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: you know. 826 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 4: So then let's see Lydia goes. 827 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: Lydia goes to the cafeteria and sins at the lunch 828 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 2: table with the three people that have been harassing her, 829 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: and she got a fucking dead squirrel and she pulls 830 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: out a knife and basically begins cutting into that squirrel 831 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 2: right there at the table, getting blood everywhere, got on 832 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: the face of Gauge. And then when the girl when 833 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: they're like, see this is what this is what people 834 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 2: died for for this, and the woman from the Highway 835 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 2: men is like not here, not now, but basically like 836 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna get her, but just not in front of everybody. 837 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 2: And then they get up and walk away and Lydia 838 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 2: had with her bloody finger, puts it to her mouth 839 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: and goes sh you know, like y'all think I'm crazy, Well, 840 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be fucking crazy. 841 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 4: Right y'all. 842 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 3: And it was one of those things where y'all think 843 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 3: y'all got a line, like y'all just don't know how 844 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 3: far I will go. Like that was kind of her 845 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: way of leave me the fuck alone. 846 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 4: And Gabe sees this too. This comes in. 847 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 2: This matters Later, Gabe sees us once again, doesn't say shit, 848 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 2: Nobody says shit. Later, Daryl pulls it to the side 849 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: and tells her, hey, you shouldn't have did that shit, 850 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 2: And he's like they deserved it, like they fucking with 851 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 2: me with them back. 852 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 3: And nobody is addressing it, and everybody act like this 853 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 3: ship does not affect me. 854 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 4: Well. 855 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: He then says I'll go talk to him, and she 856 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: says he no, don't go talk to him, because I 857 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 2: can't let you fight my battles for me. So if 858 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 2: I don't do this myself, you're essentially uh like like you, 859 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to stand in for me 860 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 2: to this group of people. 861 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 4: And so uh then later, uh, well, after they you know, 862 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 4: they had this fight. Uh. 863 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 2: She later gets jumped by the three people out by 864 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 2: Nighan's living area by the line well where the laundry 865 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 2: place she was earlier. And you know, I was gonna 866 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 2: play a clip, but it's mostly physical violence. So physical 867 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 2: it's just they they they basically jump her she fights 868 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: back a little bit, but there it's three of them 869 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 2: against one, and right before they can deliver what would 870 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: have been the killing blow, Meigan comes over and throws 871 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: the highway woman off of Lydia, and then the two 872 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: dudes basically turning the cowards like oh go to Zingien 873 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: and ny get scared and one of them look so 874 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: mortified that at first I was like, wait, didn't like, 875 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 2: why is he so scared? Does he even know? Is 876 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: he just scared because it's Nigan. Turns out he was 877 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 2: staring behind Nigga the all the time. He get through 878 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 2: that woman off of Lydia, he threw her into something 879 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 2: and he ended up killing her. 880 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 4: By accident the wall. 881 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 882 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so she died. 883 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 2: And that's of course when everybody comes out, like what 884 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: are you. 885 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 4: Doing out here? 886 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 2: Nigga and all this shit, and you know, everybody's like what, 887 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: like like, oh god, Meigan killed somebody again. Meanwhile, Lydia's 888 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: on the ground crying. 889 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 4: And used up. She has Nigga's back. She's like, no, 890 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 4: he saved me. 891 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 2: And the two dudes lied and like she attacked us 892 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 2: and Nigga killed that woman. 893 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 4: It's him, It's all, you know. It's a setup. 894 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they might as well said black lives don't Yeah. 895 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, that Lydia of our life don't matter. 896 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: So they say, you know, ketting Eagan out of here. Meanwhile, 897 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 2: Sadie comes over to treat Lydia's wound that has. 898 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 4: A complete PTSD breakdown. 899 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 2: He runs into his house, puts on ice water in 900 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 2: a sink or something, puts his face in it, and 901 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 2: skeerings into the water and when he comes back up, well, 902 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: we never see him back to help Lydia, so that 903 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 2: that's the last time we see him. So then in 904 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 2: the actual infirmary, Dante ends up caring for Lydia's wounds, 905 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 2: and then Darryl comes to talk to her and he 906 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 2: apologizes for this happening to her, and she then talks. 907 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 4: About how she misses her dad, who apparently stank. 908 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 2: He didn't like the odorant and sometimes he smelled like 909 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 2: garlic and onions and I was like, yo, daddy, steak girl. 910 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 4: I know you've been living in the woods a long time, 911 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 4: but yuck. 912 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 2: And then she tells Daryl that that Niagan, you know, 913 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 2: saved her life basically, and you know, Daryl, you know, 914 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 2: I think I think Daryl knew she was telling the 915 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 2: truth and he saw what happened, and I don't think 916 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 2: there was any doubt in Darryl. I just think Darryl 917 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 2: understands tough call because we talked about group dynamics. This 918 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: is you turning against the group. The group won'ts Niagan dead. 919 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: So you're the one coming out to be like, hey, guys, 920 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 2: I think we got this thing wrong. Nagan is the 921 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 2: one who saved her. These guys are the bad guys. 922 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 2: What doesn't matter. 923 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 4: People been wanting Nigan dead for so long. 924 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, the truth is not really the point. 925 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 2: Like this is our chance to kill Nigan and not 926 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 2: feel bad about it. I want to kill Nigan, you know, 927 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 2: like like you know, close enough is how they were 928 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 2: treating it, so you know, it's a it's a very 929 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 2: you know, tenuinue situation. And then after she tells them 930 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 2: about how she missed her dad, he actually has a 931 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 2: tender moment with her, which you know, for Darryl is 932 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 2: kind of big. He puts his arm around her unless 933 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 2: her kind of cry, you know, because she's obviously sad. 934 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 3: Understand that she's having a hard time, And the thing 935 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 3: is I think Daryl can see shit. He just responds differently, 936 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 3: but he understands that he can see shit. Well. 937 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: Also, I think Darryl knows that it's kind of on them. 938 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 2: They they're the adults in the room, and it's been 939 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 2: over a year. They don't fucking step up for Lydia, 940 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 2: And it's in a way now it's almost like a 941 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 2: slapping the face to Henry's memory, like like if nothing else, 942 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 2: Henry died for his belief in this as along with 943 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: several other people, you can't hold it against her forever. 944 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 2: She also talks about how she blames herself for all this, 945 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: like what if I killed myself for y'all caught me 946 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 2: or stayed in that cell and hilltop, none of this 947 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 2: would have happened. So now she's blaming herself for shit. 948 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 2: It's not her fault. Her Mama's an abusive piece of shit, right, 949 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 2: you know? 950 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 3: So? Uh. 951 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 4: Then Darrel goes to talk to Nigan about it. 952 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: How's the kid doing? 953 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 4: She's banged up? 954 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 6: She'll be all right, you know, the people out there 955 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 6: talking about putting you down, seeing Rick ain't around to 956 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 6: save you no more. Maybe they should have done it 957 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 6: a long time ago. 958 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: He came here looking freakingfession keep walking. There was an accident, 959 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 1: and for the record, screw her. He's a goddamn asshole 960 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: beating on a kid. World's better off. She already know that, 961 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: don't you. You came down here to look me in 962 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: the eye because you know what to do with me. Shit, 963 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: all that time you've spent fantasizing about my death, all 964 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: that time you actually tried to kill me. And I'll 965 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 1: look at you. You're not so sure. 966 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 3: You listen to me. I'm real close. 967 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 6: You and I ain't never been in a room before, 968 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 6: not toe to toe, and there ain't nobody's to save 969 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 6: you right now. 970 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: What do you want me to do, Daryl? I mean 971 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: the people out there, they are out for blood, guys 972 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: like you and me. We can smell that from a 973 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 1: mile away. Wild Lydia, you ain't no hero, No, no, 974 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm a sucker. 975 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 4: See. 976 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 5: I started believing in your way of life, your moral code. Hell, 977 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 5: even gave me a little taste of freedom, just so 978 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 5: you can yank him way when I actually did the 979 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 5: right thing. 980 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I thought. When Nigan was out 981 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 2: there by the closed thing. He must be living in 982 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 2: some type of like not in the cell, no, more 983 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,919 Speaker 2: like it must be some kind of halfway house type shit. 984 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 2: And so that's why they threw him back in the cell, 985 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,760 Speaker 2: even though he did the right thing and defended Lydia. 986 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 4: So that sucks. 987 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: You gotta admit that is pretty messed up. And we 988 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: both know I appreciate some messed up shit. 989 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:37,479 Speaker 4: Tell your side. Oh he's a sucker now, he says, 990 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 4: who's the sucker now? 991 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: Because darl says he's gonna get the chance to tell 992 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 2: his side, and Nigga like them motherfuckers will kill me 993 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 2: before that. And I love this because you know I'll 994 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 2: be reading and some of the things you read about 995 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 2: I read about, like with lynch law and shit, this 996 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,720 Speaker 2: is kind of how it went. In a lot of cases, 997 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 2: someone is accused of doing something, whether it happened or not. 998 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 2: The predisposition of the public towards that person is what 999 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 2: determines if they gonna go kill the person that and 1000 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: is the general will to lynch people, the general lynch 1001 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 2: mob mentality that people have for good and bad. People 1002 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 2: normally just need a cause, and once they have a cause, 1003 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it's true or not, they'll make it 1004 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 2: as true as it needs to be in order to 1005 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 2: carry out this justice quote unquote right. 1006 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 3: And the thing about it, just like you have a 1007 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 3: lot of people here when the same thing when lichb 1008 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 3: you have hundreds, sometimes thousands of people showing up at 1009 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 3: Lily one horse town or one sheriff town or a 1010 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 3: sheriff and the differity you have, you ain't have like 1011 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,439 Speaker 3: a whole police squad to keep people away. So when 1012 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 3: no motherfuckers show up, they're not going to stop them 1013 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 3: because they don't want to die. 1014 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing, like, this is what happens 1015 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 2: with enough time. Enough time passes by, and there's some 1016 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 2: people that want to quote unquote keep that same energy. 1017 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 2: But real life and the way that humanity works, most 1018 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 2: of us are predisposition that as time passes, as you 1019 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: start to cope as wounds hell, and when you see 1020 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 2: he's some actual change in a human being, most of 1021 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 2: us are programmed to be like, well, you know what, 1022 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 2: I'm not as angry, you know. So it's one of 1023 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 2: those things where now Nigan and Meigan understands the way 1024 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 2: people are. Part of the reason he used to do 1025 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: what he did was that he was like people psychology is, 1026 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,720 Speaker 2: you know, you gotta always have somebody to kind of punish, 1027 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 2: and they see that and that they put that energy 1028 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 2: towards that. So anyway, Megan basically was like, look, I 1029 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 2: know y'all want to kill me. Outside, Carol and Daryl 1030 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 2: have a talk and he basically says, you. 1031 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 4: Know, I believe Lydia. I don't like fuck him, but 1032 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 4: I believe Lydia. 1033 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 2: She ain't, she ain't lying, and Carol basically says this 1034 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 2: is all a distraction from the Tree to Head hilltop 1035 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 2: and in President Trump's impeachment. 1036 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 3: Because come on, She's like, the fuck is this Like 1037 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 3: She's like, uh, this is a distraction from the real thing. 1038 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 3: If we don't get this fixed, we all gonna be 1039 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 3: fucked up. And this is one of no I'm not 1040 00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 3: voting for her. 1041 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, she said, should have went to Mexico. 1042 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 3: Come on. 1043 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 2: Darryl and Micheone talked via radio. He tells us about 1044 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 2: the KNII and stuff. She basically says, you need to 1045 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 2: protect Lydia and he says, like, why, you know, essentially 1046 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 2: because none of these motherfuckers really want to do it. 1047 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,760 Speaker 2: And she's like, I believe the only reason Alpha didn't 1048 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 2: really just fucking kill us when Carol tried to kill 1049 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 2: her is actually because we have lydia, and I think 1050 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 2: if we didn't have lydia, she wouldn't have just took land. 1051 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 4: She would have killed some people. 1052 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 3: M h. 1053 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 4: You know, like she let that shit slide, and then. 1054 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: She slipped up when she was like as a mother, 1055 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 2: so we know that, you know, like she's bringing that up. 1056 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 2: So Macheon basically is like, look, she's our ace in 1057 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 2: the hole until we could come up with a way 1058 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 2: to like fight them. And she said, that's actually what 1059 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 2: Carol fucked up. I never I never gave up fighting them. 1060 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 2: I just was waiting for the right opportunity and planning. 1061 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's the machone I know, right, And 1062 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 2: Carol was like, you got to die now, right, Micheone 1063 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 2: never showed those are her cars. Now, Maybe it's sleep 1064 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 2: the priud Carol. Maybe it's the fact that Carol been 1065 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,959 Speaker 2: at SEE all this time. She has some medications and shit. Yeah, 1066 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,720 Speaker 2: maybe it's the fact that she has been away from everybody. 1067 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 2: She hasn't been in on the planning. 1068 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 4: With the group. 1069 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 2: But I know our group is gonna resist this ship 1070 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 2: at some point. They refuse to be lorded over by 1071 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 2: some other fucking group. They're not going and they don't 1072 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 2: trust the walker, the whisperers, So yeah, I like that point. 1073 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 2: And then so she's like, listen, when the when the 1074 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 2: council votes, I want you to stand in as my 1075 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 2: proxy and vote for me, and I vote, you know, 1076 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 2: don't kill Nigan, don't kill Lydia, you know, don't like 1077 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 2: just leave everybody alone. So then she asked about r J. 1078 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 2: He says he's finally just want eat his vegetables. And 1079 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 2: the council meeting, Aaron is the most gung hole, like 1080 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 2: I want to kill Nian and they're like, Nian didn't 1081 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 2: even do nothing. 1082 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 4: He was like, well maybe he changed. 1083 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 2: When he saved me or whatever, but fuck it, like 1084 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 2: this our chance, and and Sadiq goes off about a 1085 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 2: whispers ain't the real issue and we need to be 1086 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: worried about I mean, Nigga's out the real issue. We 1087 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 2: need to be worried about the whisperers cause you know 1088 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 2: he's super paranoid. 1089 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 3: Now and message right, people like in twenty sixteen going hey, hey, y'all, 1090 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: this is the distraction. These Russian robots don't pay them 1091 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 3: no attention. 1092 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 4: So then. 1093 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 2: They basically arrive at a tie and the last deciding 1094 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 2: vote is Gabe. Gabe is like, we should just we 1095 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 2: shouldn't even be deciding this, and Daryl's like, if we 1096 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 2: don't decide that, the fucking people outside gonna decide it 1097 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 2: by killing this motherfucker not decide right, So we have 1098 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 2: to decide what we're gonna do. And Gabe's like, well, 1099 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 2: since it's tied up and I'm the last vote, I'm 1100 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 2: gonna think about it overnight. 1101 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 4: And Daryl walks off like this niggah like he. 1102 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 2: Still don't get it, like a Lynch model for him tonight, nigga. 1103 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 2: So then in the morning, Gabe goes to check on 1104 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 2: niggas sell and Nigan is gone, and I'm like, man, 1105 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 2: Gabe got bad. 1106 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 4: Look, he was the one that found the first time 1107 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,399 Speaker 4: Nigan was gone. 1108 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 3: He the one that fucked. 1109 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 4: He didn't like to gate. So then he locks. He 1110 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 4: knocks on. 1111 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 2: Lydia's door and Daryl answers and he's like, Nigan's gone. 1112 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 4: Aaron. In the morning, Aaron and gave her talking. 1113 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 2: Lydia wakes up, walks out of her house and she 1114 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 2: sees Gab and Aaron talking and Aaron's like someone let 1115 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 2: him out, and he said, well, who was on guard, dude, Laura, 1116 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,479 Speaker 2: Laura said it wasn't her, and I believe her. 1117 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 4: And so she walks past him and says, I did it. 1118 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 2: I let Niagan out and so they put her in 1119 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 2: the cell. 1120 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 3: Did she just walk herself? I think she walked herself 1121 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 3: to the sea. 1122 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, still she goes into the cell, right, 1123 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 2: she's walking right into jail. So then Dale goes later 1124 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 2: and gets her out and says, I know you didn't 1125 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 2: do it because and first I believed her. I said, oh, 1126 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 2: I could see why she would do that. But he said, 1127 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 2: I know you didn't do it. I know because I 1128 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 2: watched you all night. I was at your house because 1129 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 2: dud he asked at the door, so that makes sense. 1130 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 2: He was like, I know it wasn't you. Why are 1131 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 2: you in the cell? Why are you doing this? And 1132 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 2: she was like, it's the safest place for me. Basically, 1133 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 2: y'all hate me. My mama was right, she said, y'all 1134 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 2: pretend to be nice, but then soon as some shit 1135 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 2: goes down, y'all aim the trick. Aim fweeze the trigger 1136 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 2: and shoot at a target. And it's whoever isn't y'all, 1137 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 2: and I'm that target. And so now y'all making me 1138 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 2: ostracized and blaming me for everything going on, and you 1139 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 2: might as well just leave me in here because I 1140 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 2: don't wanna. 1141 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 4: It's not safe for me out there. 1142 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 3: Right, And that's what's Nigga's whole point. When Nigga was like, 1143 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 3: keep me here, that's like told Gabe, Gabe, I don't 1144 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 3: want to go out there. They won't blood. It's too 1145 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 3: much shit happening right now. And I no matter what happened, 1146 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 3: I am going to be at fault. 1147 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 2: I ain't one of y'all, and y'all killing people that 1148 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 2: ain't one of y'all. Right, So then he leaves her 1149 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 2: in there. Daryl does let us stay, and then he 1150 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 2: goes outside and cleans the graffiti for Lydia's or carrol'start 1151 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 2: sitting on the rooftop looking outward, and who do you 1152 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 2: think let. 1153 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 4: Knaan out of his cage? 1154 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 3: I literally I have no idea, Like, I mmmm, that's 1155 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 3: a good ask question. I would know. 1156 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 4: I wonder if it's Carol, oh either, do you not there? 1157 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 4: All right? 1158 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 2: I wonder if it's Carol, because Carol was the only 1159 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 2: person that Darryl talked to about it. I can't think 1160 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 2: anybody else that would be motivated to like because she 1161 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 2: said he was a distraction. So I can see Carol 1162 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 2: being like, get rid of the distraction. If he's gone, 1163 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 2: we don't got to worry about this. We should be 1164 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 2: focusing on the Whispers anyway. It was just a thought, 1165 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 2: especially the way the camera panned to her just looking 1166 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 2: out over everything made me wonder. Anyway, while she's looking 1167 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 2: off in the distance, it then pans around the whole 1168 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 2: town and we see silence. The Whispers has been written 1169 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 2: in more than one like a few plays. Is now 1170 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 2: in the big places you can't ignore, on the side 1171 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 2: of the church, on the lookout stand and ship like that, 1172 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 2: and Gabe. 1173 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know, and just like you 1174 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 3: need to make a goddamn decision. 1175 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 2: And so Darrel's cleaned off the graffiti on the house, 1176 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 2: but you know, and then we also hear at the 1177 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 2: end this really weird sound of the zombies and some 1178 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 2: counting like one three, one three, because you know, the 1179 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Whisperers are mostly white and they move on the ones 1180 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 2: and threes. 1181 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 4: And then we also it was something like that, Yeah, 1182 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 4: it's not one, two, three pot though. 1183 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 2: Anyway, they say one three yeah, and so then we 1184 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 2: also hear them go. 1185 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 4: So I'm like, that made. What do you think we're 1186 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 4: supposed to get from that? 1187 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 3: I have no idea the tears I didn't put no. 1188 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 4: The second time I watched it. 1189 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: I think I think I'm not sure that A guess 1190 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: things we're supposed to get that maybe they are behind 1191 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 2: all these zombie attacks and shit or something like, they 1192 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 2: are just constantly among the dead out there and they're 1193 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 2: right outside the gates of Alexandria ready to pounce or 1194 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 2: of that moment of weakness or whatever. 1195 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 1196 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 2: It just made me think about that. So that was 1197 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 2: it for the episode. What are you looking forward to 1198 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 2: next week? 1199 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 3: Hmm? To see what the decision is, what decision is 1200 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 3: gonna make. I don't know if they're gonna go to 1201 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 3: ocean side or not, but to see them when they 1202 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 3: get the ocean shot on what happens there. 1203 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 4: The decision. Oh, of. 1204 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 3: The trial of Lydia. 1205 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 2: Oh well see, I don't think Lydia is really on 1206 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 2: trial though I think it was. And Megan's gone, so 1207 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be no trial. 1208 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah for right now. And I guess they're gonna 1209 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 3: see We're gonna find out what happened to Nigan and 1210 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 3: who let them out? 1211 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll do. 1212 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing what Nigan does its new 1213 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 2: found freedom, and I'm hoping it's like to come book. Yes, 1214 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 2: that ship was good. I hope it's like them is 1215 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 2: with the fucking Whispers, and to see that asshole amongst 1216 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 2: the Whispers would be so fucking good. Like the preview 1217 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 2: had a couple of cliffs that looked like it could 1218 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 2: be him joining the Whispers. So I just I really 1219 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 2: hope that's what it is. Uh So all right, we 1220 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 2: had a couple of feedbacks. 1221 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 5: Uh. 1222 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 2: This one is from our girl La Man who says, hey, 1223 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 2: Rod and care well silence. 1224 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 4: The Whispers episode wasn't as ever because I thought it 1225 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 4: was gonna be. 1226 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 2: It just made me sad. The whole episode was like 1227 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 2: how folks act on social media, wasn't it. It's like 1228 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 2: lydia fucking starting in Harriet uh and this shit rap 1229 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 2: and say nigga and all the people who wanted to 1230 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,120 Speaker 2: keep a calm head or bring any nuance or truth 1231 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 2: to the situation either got yelled at or ignored my 1232 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 2: king was going to end at all. Oh, of course, 1233 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 2: of course it takes a black woman to bring him 1234 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 2: back from brink yup. As soon as he got on 1235 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 2: that off the brink, He's gonna end up with a 1236 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 2: white girl. I guess I don't even know that. I 1237 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,439 Speaker 2: guess the showrunners didn't get to read that article about 1238 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 2: how black men need to stop using black women as 1239 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 2: a mental health doormats. He was out there, he was 1240 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 2: out He was out here on ig trying to front 1241 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 2: like he was okay, trying to. 1242 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 4: Get Carol's attention. 1243 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 2: I'm proud of him that he took a social media 1244 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 2: break by the end of the episode. That come on 1245 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 2: then everyone, right, Yeah, he really did try to fake 1246 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 2: it till he made it, but he couldn't do it though. 1247 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 3: More y'all taking the pictures, smile and the ship. 1248 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 7: Right, I'm gonna be all right, just getting money in 1249 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 7: uh then right then, everyone in Alexandra is on Twitter 1250 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 7: and Facebook hating on the wrong people, and Nikki the 1251 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 7: Highway Lady out here encouraging people follow us to drag 1252 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 7: Lydia and they took it too damn. 1253 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 4: Far as always now she retired permanently. 1254 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Ha ha, and Darryl is like any other parent whose 1255 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,959 Speaker 2: child gets cyber bully, didn't do a damn thing about 1256 01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 2: it till it's too late. 1257 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 4: Just sad. 1258 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does feel like social like This episode 1259 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: especially had so many social media allegories to me, and 1260 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 2: I really was like, I think that's partially why I 1261 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 2: still love the Show's because I'm be like, this is 1262 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: how niggas are. 1263 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 4: It's unrealistic. No, it's not. 1264 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 2: The zombies basically Russian bots ready to take over twenty 1265 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 2: twenty again. While y'all arguing about everything else, they just like, 1266 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna get them in the White House. 1267 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 3: I know them. They're like Trimp twenty twenty twenty. 1268 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 2: Even though I think Lydia is musty, I wouldn't wish 1269 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 2: that on her. I understand Darryl'll being worried about her 1270 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 2: making friends with Nigan, but she was right. She wasn't 1271 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 2: there for all that stuff. She knows work released Nigan, 1272 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 2: Prison Yoga Niga, and Andy Duframe Nigan. 1273 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 4: Folks just want to find someone to be mad at. 1274 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 4: It made me feel so tense because it mirrored reality 1275 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 4: so well. 1276 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 2: But I did like all the scenes with Luke this 1277 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 2: episode shocking, Eugene, did we just become best friends? 1278 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 3: That? Yeah? 1279 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 2: Uh, I forget, I forget what word e Gene made, 1280 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 2: but it was like cockroach, the scientific term for cockroaches. 1281 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 2: And Luke was like, oh, yeah, the cockroach. And he 1282 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 2: was like, looking like, you speak that too, you. 1283 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,080 Speaker 3: Speak that language. 1284 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 5: Uh. 1285 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 4: Here's that Paul Rudd video that keeps going around look 1286 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 4: at us. Huh who would the thoughts? 1287 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Then then being coy about why he wanted to go 1288 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 2: to Ocera side l O L so cut next yeah, 1289 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 2: and then that long goodbye so he did. Next episode, 1290 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 2: I hope you're wrong. Next episode looks good. I'm going 1291 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,959 Speaker 2: to try to manage my expectations. I think I'm also 1292 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 2: disappointed because I was looking forward to seeing more the 1293 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 2: Kingdom folks and how they're holding up at Hilltop. Turns 1294 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 2: out no one is okay except Jerry, Connie and Luke, 1295 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 2: and I think, uh, and Nobela is still with them, right, 1296 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,439 Speaker 2: she didn't die, So Luke, that's why. 1297 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 4: That's why that's with the kids, that's. 1298 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 2: Why Jerry okay. He's like, listen, I got me a 1299 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,959 Speaker 2: good black woman. I'm just over here minding my business. 1300 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 3: Me and my five kids. 1301 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,919 Speaker 2: Jerry, everyone No one was okay except Jerry, Connie and Luke. 1302 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 2: And I think I was expecting a few more moments 1303 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 2: of comic relief. I guess creative try to set the 1304 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 2: move for what's to come. If that was that goal, 1305 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 2: this episode's success. Yeah, I think the comedy is gonna 1306 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 2: be coming in this episode. 1307 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 4: I really do. 1308 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 3: Man. 1309 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try to hype people up, but I 1310 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 2: feel like tonight, if we get some Nigan. 1311 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 4: Amongst them whisperers. 1312 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 2: That's the comedy because I won't see this nigga at 1313 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 2: niagany around them crazy motherfuckers. 1314 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 3: And you know what, another reason why I actually enjoy 1315 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 3: it now because we're actually getting Mega and how we 1316 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 3: should have got Niga when he first got into duc introduced. 1317 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 3: We're actually getting him, like him actually physically being there 1318 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 3: doing like a whole episode. Like so, I really am 1319 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 3: enjoying us getting full and you're not substitute of throwing 1320 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,440 Speaker 3: nobody in his spot. 1321 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just man, I really hope. 1322 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 2: I've oh it's gonna be And I know it's because 1323 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 2: I read the comics and that ship was so oh, 1324 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 2: it was so fucking good man. 1325 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 4: He just stayed with the jokes and. 1326 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 2: The you know nigga always gotta say one asshole comment too. 1327 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 4: Much, but not so much. 1328 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 2: You gotta fight them just that one more annoying comment. 1329 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,240 Speaker 4: That you're just like nigga. Why did you have to 1330 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 4: bring up my dick? Like, what does my dick have 1331 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 4: to do with this situation? Anyway? Rod and Karen, this 1332 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 4: is from k swag. 1333 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 2: There are so many feelings in the motions of unpacking 1334 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 2: this episode, especially when you add in the soundtrack. Zeke 1335 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 2: is all messed up, Losses King on Loss's girl the 1336 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 2: most importantly lost his swag. Yeah, when him and Michelle 1337 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 2: talk about losing their mask and the mask are the 1338 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 2: things that are nabbed them the cope. 1339 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 4: That was that was pretty deep. 1340 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 2: So he takes his shot at Micheon and even though 1341 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 2: it's miss timed and awkward, it does bring him back. 1342 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 4: You can hear some King in his voice. He said, 1343 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 4: and you have to smile. 1344 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, you just laid de luscious on her, Okay, 1345 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 2: and a conversation can bring up the press brother back 1346 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 2: from the edge. Then Rick must have been fighting Zombie's 1347 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 2: bare hands. Try to get back to Alexandria. I know 1348 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 2: I've been when Sean smells like Cocova and Mark Jacob 1349 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 2: her funed seven Years to the Sea Fog. Yeah, she 1350 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 2: don't look like she's staying anyway. Aaron is a world 1351 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 2: class hater, and I do think they may be giving 1352 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 2: Darryl too many lines. Daryl needs to be less like 1353 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 2: a wise old man and get back to his red 1354 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 2: neck ways case swag. 1355 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 4: I love the pod, thank you. 1356 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 2: I actually do not mind more Darryl as long as 1357 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 2: they write him the way they're writing him, and it 1358 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,919 Speaker 2: feels authentic that Daryl. 1359 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 4: Were like to the character. Right, He's had to step 1360 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 4: up and talk more. But I mean, it's Darryl. You 1361 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like you. 1362 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 3: Ain't gonna get but swing in lines. 1363 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 2: It ain't was not like he's saying, like if Daryl 1364 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 2: would have like like that funny fart where they had 1365 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 2: last week where Darryl gave a whole fucking background to 1366 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,719 Speaker 2: his father, and we're like, Daryl has never spoken that much. 1367 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 3: Like what's wrong with this? And you're like, okay, this 1368 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 3: makes sense. 1369 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,879 Speaker 2: This is not reality, right, this was a dream sequence 1370 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 2: And you're like that does make sense, this nigg you 1371 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,120 Speaker 2: have to be dreaming for this nigga to speak or 1372 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 2: the thirty five seconds uninterrupted. So yeah, I don't know, 1373 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 2: I don't mind Jerry, I mean Darryl. 1374 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 4: All Right, y'all. 1375 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 2: That's it for this episode, and uh, for those of 1376 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 2: the live in the chat, we're gonna do a regular episode. 1377 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 4: Right after the episode to hang on, y'all. 1378 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 2: Hang on and the feed you'll see this episode and 1379 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 2: then you'll see another episode pop up on the same day. 1380 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 4: Yes, uh so we just wanted to get our walking 1381 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 4: dead in until next time. 1382 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 3: I love you you