WEBVTT - Kosine 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:12.560 R and B Money. Well, take val we are the 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:18.560 authority on all things R and B. What's going on, 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.639 ladies and gentlemen, I am tanking, Valentine, and this is 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.920 the R and B Money podcast. Is the authority what 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.560 athority when they go to the high boy on all 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:36.479 things R and B in the building today to day. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.960 This is a real family member. This is a real 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.839 little brother. Really taps in with the army, really taps 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:52.080 in with the R and B nuances. He's a finisher. Um, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:59.160 he's a super producer, super super producer. Also in our teeth. 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.040 There are very few people that are who sensitive about 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.800 the sensitive about this ship. Ladies and gentlemen, our little 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:14.120 brother in the building, give it up a coat Signmano 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:26.759 Felsio sad Well you know the lord I see by 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:33.280 the Miami right that. Yeah, come R and B sexy five, 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:48.120 you know, sexy sexy bo bos All, blooding glass. Valentino. No, no, no, no, no, no, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:59.880 I'm like okay, no, y'all, Niggs, come on back, real 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.920 is back on end Um. First of all, man, thank 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.760 you brother for pulling up. Man. This is a necessity. Um, 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.480 you know it wasn't a matter of if just a 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.280 matter of when we get the we get the bro hand. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.320 What what I tried to do was to not be 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.640 too thirsty. Right as soon as I've seen it, it 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:24.160 was like it was like coast, calm down, gotta get 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.640 Jamie out the way, coast overwhere? So what you think 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.680 you're thinking next week? Like what you're thinking? Like, tell 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.320 me exactly the time the time front. Yeah, I had 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.639 had the real and back. Not be so thirsty. Let 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.760 it happen and shout out to my sister who you know. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.399 She saw a couple of guests and it was like, Okay, 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.760 it's time now they he told you, they didn't got 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.000 She's telling me who he got? Eric been on there, 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.200 I've seen hit make on. It's time. It's time that 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:56.880 you called take yet and then sent me pages of 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:06.960 talking boards shout out tonight, my sister not. I rocked 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.480 with that. She told me down. She's a huge fan 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.079 of the podcast. Huge what's her favorite episode? I think 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.000 her favorite is Steve Mackie. You know what I'm saying. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.320 I think she just loved the insight, you know what 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.840 I'm saying? And great, yeah, yeah, but with you brothers, man, 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.040 I gotta give your brothers y'all flowers to first because 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.040 being an l a transplant. You know what I'm saying, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:34.160 It's all about choosing your friends wisely. And the divine 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.680 brotherhood council that has come from both of y'all down 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:42.200 through the years has been clutched, you know what I'm saying, 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.000 because historically I've been a wild cowboy, you know what 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:50.760 I'm saying, and sometimes sometimes unassuming, but a wild cowboy, 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.200 especially when I think about my brother Jay Man demand 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.280 didn't talk me off the ledge so many times. Man. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.200 And then when I think about then Rique Dragon here, 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.000 when I wanted to get out there as an artist, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.760 the encouragement to let it fly, let it fly, let 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.200 it fly, man, you know, wanted you to be the 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.960 dragon uninhibited. Man. They got a new show about you 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:20.640 now d House of Dragons too. May or may not 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.320 be a ghost writer on that show. You know what, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:30.560 They got Black dragons bag real dragons again. But now 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.599 I just wanted to put that on record, and just 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.480 I said, I appreciate you brothers, man, because man, you know, 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:41.040 even y'all showing up to the wind, thank you singing man. Man. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.680 I could go on all day, you know, yeah, I 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.359 know I get more than thing I was thinking about, 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.080 like trying to figure out some type of invoice for 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.039 for what I ended up having to do. You had 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.919 to wing it. We have some some technical difficulty. It 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.240 was technical difficult. People didn't show up, man, Like, So 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.520 where's the DJ? What DJ chords was missing? J that's 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.400 supposed to do? You think you can? You know what? 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.880 For my brother? I absolutely can. What's the going out song? Oh? 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.919 You don't have them? Alright? Cool? Give me the microphone again. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.360 Do the thing. We'll figure it out. You know what 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.279 I'm saying. I had to usher the people into you 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.080 know that, did you usher? But then you gave him 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.440 a few bars walking in which was always played in Chicagoy. 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.520 You know what I'm saying, people walking back. I feel 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.560 like he gave Jeff a few months and snacks, snacks 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.160 and snacks. Don't nobody's singing snacks but me. You know 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.720 what I'm saying, yo. And it's so funny because listening 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.320 to my family prepared to come to l A for 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.160 the first time, right, it's a lot of Panamlians that 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.000 came to Los Angeles for the first time, and they like, 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.640 you know, we have to get ready to dress like 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:53.239 potato salad because this is our really celebrity wedding mardical. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.159 We're coming and this is that really celebrity. We're ready. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.839 So it's just like, guys, you gotta dress like oh yeah, 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.080 you know that's slay. That's Panamanian slang right there. Man, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.560 what does that mean? I mean you fly if you 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:11.880 dress like salad? Oh man, you like, yeah salad. We 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:16.920 wouldn't come dressed like slid modicle. I'm like, okay, I'm 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.560 to use that. You know. I think I'm gonna let 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:26.480 your have I'm gonna let your guy man what you 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.120 have on. You know, I had to potato salad, you 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.040 know that I had with the freshly cut, hard boiled 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.240 eggs on top of a little little Papa Rika has said, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.640 you see where you're gonna go. Wait, he'll turn into 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:45.000 a full song all right, man, um your family to us. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.880 But that's not how we rock. Um. We want to 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:53.880 we want to dig into the beginning of of co sign. 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.600 We want to dig into the beginning of modicles, the 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:02.839 beginning of the modic, the beginning like where was the 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:07.520 day in time where you either made the decision that 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:12.840 this is what I want to do or somebody told you, hey, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.800 this is what you should be doing. Mm hmm. And 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.840 and to add to that, to give you some more 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:24.800 talking talking space, what was your influence to even get 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.120 to the dang man? I gotta say the influence. Man, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.680 I got made fun of for this, bro. I got 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.920 made fun of in high school for this man, I 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:36.840 mean know in college. Uh. Well, first, it's all credit 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.880 to my mom, the late bed a Lie Celestine Johnson. 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:48.880 You know what I'm saying, man, little salute man. We 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:57.160 definitely moms held it down for real. Um, single black mother, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:02.360 west side of Chicago, Maywood, brav you to be specific. Um, 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:06.520 originally from Panama and my main't play no games. You 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.640 know what I'm not gonna do is lose my son 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:16.200 to gang violence. Um, I won't raise a disrespectful child. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:23.880 And she just really instilled education and practice. Those were 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.760 like cornerstone. So so was she a musician? Wasn't a musician? 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.600 My grandfather used to sing solos in church, you know, pops, 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:37.280 he's originally from Jamaica. We call him uh and um. 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.200 But it was just like the way I can I 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.280 can protect my child is to always keep him busy. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:49.120 So it was saxophone, it was piano, it was baseball, basketball, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:56.520 it was gone too, right, which is Panamanian dance class 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:02.640 on the weekend, they have Panamanian class in Chicago. What 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.839 the name of the club was called? On my peck right? 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.400 And I used to be have to be in parades 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.400 like I used to be my mom, Mom, You're gonna 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.160 they're gonna beat me up there if I'm doing like 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:21.600 you was doing car involved in Chicago. What you hear 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:26.400 that music? Come on fifth the fifth there behind your 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:33.319 back on the Yeah, yeah, what what you wanna do? 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.720 They want to go? You want to go party? Right now? 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.439 It was a little club called the Fuego Fuego, I 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:46.439 know what that means. It's on fire, yeah, okay. And 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.280 I remember being at them parties, man, and it might 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.439 be like twelve one am and the kids section we'd 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.600 already did our dad, so that we're just on the side, 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:01.400 sleep tired, and it's just really your Southland going on. 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.439 You know what I'm saying that you see pants with 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:09.840 the sides opening me my, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.840 It just like yeah, bro, So she really was big 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.240 on the culture. You will know about your panaman your 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:21.720 roots um and be well rounded as well. In eighth grade, 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.800 I started playing the drums at church. I was the 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.360 third string drummer. You know what I'm saying. Happened so 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:32.079 so you got man like like sports. Yeah, absolutely, you 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.320 know what I'm saying, and really use the backup, backup 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.000 drummer like th quarterbacks. So you got the sanctuary choir, 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.080 the youth choir, and then when the kids quire come 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:46.640 up goes they'd be like, oh, all these blessings come 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:51.319 from God. It's either it's either it's either the junior 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:56.760 choir or before before the praising worship was a big 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.840 thing as it is right now. You know what I'm saying. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.199 You would do like the beginning of service. You know 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:04.760 what I'm saying. That's what the third string guy was. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:09.360 But one service started getting serious, then the guys off. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.960 Everybody here, Okay, buddy, come on, buddy, come on now. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.920 The best part was when the lead drummer uh and 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:17.839 the second drumming is And this only happened a few 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:23.080 times in the lead second they ain't there. Now baby, 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:30.760 you get play for the for the big choiring off 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:37.680 beating loud. You see the quiet director. Just I'm trying 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:44.320 to find it grade eighth grade. I'm thirteen thirteen this time, 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.160 and so yeah, I'm playing sacks, I'm playing drums and 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.319 playing keys. And then high school was like all of 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.360 them kind of coming together. I was I was rapping. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.000 I was in an R and B group and we 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:03.360 had no lead singer. What y'all saying? Union? I think 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.480 the group probably only lasts about ninety days, okay, because 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.800 it was one guy that just every week was just 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:14.439 selling wolf tickets is what we call them. And it's like, yeah, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.560 we're gonna be shooting a video. We gotta we gotta 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.000 auditions for the video. Girls coming. He was in the 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.920 group where he was the man in the group, and 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.920 oh but he was managing too though he was selling 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.480 y'all wolf tickets. Yeah, selling us the wolf tickets. None 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.199 of the things that he ever talked about ever came 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.040 in the group. What you're selling the wolf ticket? And 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.960 it was just just another nis just like everybody now 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.199 here in the group and kind of and kind of 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.439 is claiming lead singer. But I can't give him that 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.840 because you can't see none of us, none of us 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.400 get really, you know, I'm trying to be noticing. I'm 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.439 trying to be you know, Cosavante in the group. You 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:53.280 know what I'm saying, producer in the back, and so yeah, 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.280 that I was a disaster, but it was shots up. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.480 All of this stuff was just getting shots up. I 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.959 went to a Catholic all boy high school, same school 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.440 at the Isaiah Thomas went to St. Joe's. Evan Turner 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:09.480 as well, and uh Man, I played in the Lassalian Instrumentalists. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.079 I want the Louis B. Armstrong Jazz Award. So I 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.199 was cutting up man, I was playing at youth services, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.160 starting to get a little little is all for you? 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.079 Just being a purist in terms of just being a 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.719 musician and just loving it and just doing I'm having 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:29.520 a good time. What I noticed was rapping. I wasn't 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.920 a huge fan of the attention because Chicago they will 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.599 fry you. The jokes that my friends have were so 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.720 lead though that getting on that stage and the spotlight 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.520 was a little hot. So it's like, how can I 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.160 be close to it but not all the way into producer? 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.360 And when I saw that, that made me just want 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:50.360 to just know all of the different aspects about music, 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.200 you know. And so so it was your mother, your 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:59.679 first investor because obviously, as being a producer was for 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.439 sure got to have equipment. My mama bought that PM 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:09.360 for keyboard PEV. Yeah, so for the keyboard. Uh, I 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.439 kind of just gotta just lead that off. How I 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:15.240 got my first keyboard. That ain't nobody being, uh, what 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.719 you want to tell us? You know what happened? You 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.600 know what I'm saying that you have to sell, you 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.200 have to sell something. I had to sell nothing, but 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.360 you know I just laid something down to get it. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.000 I had to get a creative right to get that. Yamaham, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:39.000 you had seven to Yeah, yeah your shirt, I see 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:46.520 your shirt. You did something? Yeah, did you get the 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.600 way to get I got the seven? I got to seven. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.640 But it was crazy because I remember my mom being like, Michael, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.640 how did you get that? And I had to tell 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.200 one of my homies to say that he bought it 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.680 from me. You know what I'm saying, like like my mama, 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.080 because I was like, I was one of the guys 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.600 in the group, was a producer, and so I told mom. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.680 I was like, mom, he got a deal. And because 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.560 I've been spending that time in the studio with him, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.000 he just got me my own keyboard. So she was like, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.240 oh my, really, Michael, I have to I have to 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:16.800 at least it call him so I can say thank 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.320 you shot. So I had to finesse called him and 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.320 say hey, act like you got me. Yeah, Mom about 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:27.000 to call you can say thanks for the keyboard. This 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:31.840 is senior year of high school. Make seventeen, senior year 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.960 in high school? A little what did you do? Man? 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.160 I can't talk about it. I mean, the statue of 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.760 limitations is probably over. Probably over. Huh, you've grown out, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.840 go to jail for something you did from high school 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.600 and high school. But but I but I gave back though. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:52.080 This is what I did. I gave back to the organization, organization. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.880 I get back to the organization that he took him for, 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:04.440 the boys and Girls club. He's stolen church. Church, there's 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:10.640 still the churches. Gave onout the church. But it was 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.400 it was it was something I'm not because it's funny 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:15.960 because I was talking to somebody and I was thinking 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.440 about that, like wait, how did that? And I was like, 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.040 oh my god, that was a one time in my 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.480 life where I got active. Oh my god, I had 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:29.120 to have it, had to. And and so I think 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.160 about how sometimes in the past I've been judging on 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.280 how people get to it, not really putting that mirror 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.600 on myself and really looking at my story through a 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.080 fine tooth comb, Like you have to do some hustling too, sir. Yeah. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:47.560 And I was like, alright, cool, I gotta relax. H Um. Yes, 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:53.680 you kind of poked a hole in the kindom he's gonna. 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:58.600 He's gonna do that throughout throughout the whole, just for yourself. 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:05.040 This is before this, before he's gonna everybody. This is 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:11.200 before we started getting up, started getting moisted, it slippery. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.680 But so you start making your first tracks that motif. Yeah. 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.240 And then I got an MPC two thousand right after 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:20.920 from a mentor of mine, got by the name of 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.560 the Sick One. Um. And it's funny too, because I 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.320 just knew he was gonna give it to me. It 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.000 got a four thousand, and I was just like, oh, 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.359 the two thouars of mine and he was like, not, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.240 it's a thousand, and I was like, sir, please, He's 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.800 like nah. So that's when I started shouting to que 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.399 biller Man as a guy west side q billing Man. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.520 He bought my first track. He bought three of them 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.159 for two hundred dollars, six hundred dollars. I think my 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.440 mama might have gave me the other Yeah, you know 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.240 what I'm saying. So three bats for two hundred dollars 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.639 to Q Builing and man the rest was hitting once 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.320 that MPC and that motif was together in that basement. 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.840 Oh we are so listen before we before you can 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:03.119 go any further, we have to take a shot. We're 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.800 gonna take a shot, and this shot is too. Not 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:13.879 disappointing the investors. Your mama, your mama, my daddy, this 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.240 is just my my listen, my o G. Bill Haney, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.200 father of Devin Haney, world champion. This is his saying, 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.880 do not disappoint the investors. Straight up. This is why 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.520 we're This is why we're here. We did not disappoint 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.760 the investors. Your mama gave you that extra poe, man, 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:39.560 the extra poe like I used to drive my mama crazy. Yoh, 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.600 like I would be as an only child. I'll be 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.600 in my room. I remember one time I got out 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.359 the shower and I supposed to put my clothes on 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.160 and come outside to my family was in a living room. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.440 But it was like, ain't nothing stopping me from going 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.680 to the NBA. And I had a little ram in 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.600 my room. Wait just you just talked about a whole 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:07.520 bunch of instruments and playing instruments and now you're jumping 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:12.480 out of hoop dreams while it was life. So I 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.040 was on my all start and they all started elementary 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:19.480 school and so so at that young age, I remember that. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.560 I never forget that day. I came out the shower 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.280 and said, I'm going to leave through my tower off 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:30.000 and started training but ass necking in my room. Asshole 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:36.160 going to funk off. And my cousin walked in the room. 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:47.680 So like my cousin, I remember seeing her, like, yeah, 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:52.199 my cousin, Jazz cousin. Y yes, I remember seeing her 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.000 and I just instantly started tearing up because I knew 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.760 she was gonna tell and I saw. I was like no, no, no, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:05.760 and she was like you you're playing basketball, but brow 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.160 Marcus and my family called me Marcus markets here playing 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:19.720 basketball next year. I'm oh, please, no to get so 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.560 distracted and then get engulf you know what I'm saying, 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:27.840 Get distracted and getting golf, man, that's worth in leon 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:34.800 and above the basketball without the ball bro the only child. 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:40.040 The only child life is so crazy because you're so lonely. Bro, 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:44.360 You're so lonely, You're so in your head, and it's 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.000 like you create this world of just like being by yourself, 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.320 you know what I'm saying. And you got your imaginary 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.399 friends and the reasoning, you know what I'm saying, work 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.840 Where your imaginary friends that you were whooping, were they 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:14.680 naked to they were work. And then so my mom 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.520 would hear me doing Goddos one in the room and 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.680 shut it down. And that's when practiced being because she's 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.600 just be like Monico, sit when the last time you 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:25.800 practice piano, you're not jumping around. And we lived in 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:27.760 an apartment, so you have people that would call the 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.520 police and do all kind of wild ship because they 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:34.680 heard and then you know, pick up piano or saxophone 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.760 the next you know, two three hours ago by and 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.760 I wouldn't even really think about it. And she was 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.560 a head nurse of a dialysis unit a Loyola hospital 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:47.280 and she would do her schedule. She always had to 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:49.760 do that weekly schedule, so that was a good time 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:51.760 for her to zone out and knock out the schedule 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.880 for everybody practicing, you know, what I'm saying. And then 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.159 the Disney movies came out, so I always had the 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.760 play alongs to all the movie. So Steve Mackie was 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.800 talking about doing the Disney movie. I was like, why 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:05.359 can't I relate? I don't want to have to be 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:07.920 able to relate to this. But I remember that I 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.240 had my horn like dee do dee do do do 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:21.399 do do? Just be like I said. That was the 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:25.159 early years and her favorite uh for one of her 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:28.760 favorite musicians was Kenny g So I'm in the in 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.600 the crib. That was my style. Black women love Kenny. 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:37.399 They love Kenny Ken, John b Yeah, what's the uh. 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:43.280 Michael Bolton and Michael bow Yes, and Michael Bolton love 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.440 at Michael bo So when I got to fam you 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:52.280 and there's sixties freshman Michael McDonald, don't leave you. We 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.600 will not leave out my movie. That's a very so 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:13.680 oh my god. He was cold. He was cold in 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:18.920 real life. Oh my god, Oh my goodness. So I 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.600 used to So I was in a program called Upward 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:28.040 Bound and that was the college prep local program at 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:34.200 the community college Triton College. That it was for the poor, 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:41.680 smart kids, right, and because my mama made too much 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.000 money for me to be in the program. I never 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.520 got stipends. They used to get stipends every week. But 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:52.520 my cousin, she was in the program, and she her people, 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:54.800 my uncle, they get put in a good word, threw 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:56.520 me in there. It's just like, you can be here, 0:23:56.600 --> 0:24:00.240 but you can't get paid. Mama be cooking, yeah saying. 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.359 And we used to do college tours all around. So 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:06.600 I've seen Duke, and I really wanted to go to 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:08.080 Duke for a second till I got there and it 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.280 was like, oh, y'all tightened ass. I love a basketball team, 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:13.280 but y'all live tighten ask. But what I'm looking for 0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:17.280 coming from St. Joe's, which is like Catholic all boy, 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.320 you know, turned up, I need it. I need to 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.280 be dipped in black again, you know what I'm saying. 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:26.000 I went to black from preschool to aid grade and 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:29.480 then my high school is pretty diverse. But then there's like, 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.680 I need black again, and so and I know, and 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:33.840 I knew I needed music too, and he's like, well, 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:37.200 you're talking about the best black band in the country. 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:39.560 You're talking about family. You are you sure that's the best? 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:45.680 A kick that off? Not because they don't want to smoke. 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.639 I'm just asking. No, I'm just I'm just asking. I mean, 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:53.440 because human juke pak No, I mean they're cute, They're cute, 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.960 you know what I'm saying. He was Sonic Boom or 0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:01.440 something like that, right, and look their dancer girls pristine. Hey, 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.639 but when it comes to talk to sound talk to 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:06.679 you know what I'm saying, it's the Marching one hundred 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.840 and so y'all who they made the movie of course, 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.040 and our band would have been in the movie, but 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:14.720 they wrote in the script that we lose and we 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:19.280 don't lose. So fun that movie, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.840 that drumline what not in real life, but that's how 0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:25.440 our band director felt. You know what I'm saying, We 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:29.440 don't lose, we don't lose. Script, You're not going to 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:33.639 create that, no, you know, telling people that, no, no, no, 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.359 that's not the energy that you're gonna put out about us, 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.480 and that then they rewrote it and made it a tie, 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:40.880 and it was like, oh yeah, think it's a game, 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:44.920 and me being I'm like, god, I want to be 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.840 the movie so bad, like band director please, when I 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.719 was really so there were and there were a lot 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.359 of players from our band. That's a couple one offs 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.440 that they use, like the sticks. The actual nick cannon 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.680 Hands in the band was one of our drummers and 0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.680 fans Hands was one of them, so they're still were 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:02.880 And then I think they ended up using Southwestern Cow 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.040 but their band director is from fam you you know 0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:09.080 what I'm saying, saxophone player too, So yeah, it was 0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.720 it was deep. It was really deep, and I really 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:15.720 was happening because you're talking about two one so band 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:22.720 is damn their gangs what and there's gangs inside of 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.000 every section too. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, you know what I'm saying. 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.720 So of course you got the white T shirt on crab, 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.480 you know. And on top of being a crab, I 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:37.000 was the weakest link out of sixty freshman saxophone players. 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:39.879 And I'm just like, also, y'all didn't play football and 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:43.840 basketball and had girlfriends and just played instruments. Y'all just 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.879 really was about that. So that's where I learned about 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:50.120 even practicing, Like coach, you don't practice for I didn't 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.919 even I didn't even get a scholarship the first semester. 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.080 My scholarship didn't happen until the second semester, so I 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.080 really had to get my ship together. But it was 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.560 a cultural for me because I just was the man 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.080 at home. But then I get to fam and these 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:14.280 guys are playing fly to the Bumblebee? Where I at? 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:21.919 Where am I at? And I'm there's Nicki Minaje. Anaconda 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:33.840 does not happen without fan bum Yeah you're still poor, 0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.840 but still we're still poor. But then I was a 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.639 that was a forward flash of how that happens. Because 0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.960 I learned about arrangement, I learned about blend. You know 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:48.480 what I'm saying. I learned so much musicality just being there, 0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.000 being in the jazz man beating a symphonic man. You 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.280 know what I'm saying. Having a teacher say, yeah, you're 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.600 playing saxophone, but I wanted to to hit me like 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.159 a French horn. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.960 that's a different mouthpiece as a different armiship is. It's 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.680 the real training. I'm taking class piano, taking voice, I'm 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.720 taking brass techniques. I was a music education major while 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.119 I was at FAN to force semesters of theory with 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.280 dr horn. So this is like damn the music rocket 0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:22.160 science yea and it's the best shot ever. And after 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:26.920 my sophomore year, my mom gets diagnosed with cancer. After 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:30.240 my freshman year, my mom gets diagnosed with cancer. After 0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.320 my sophomore year, my mom passed away from cancer. And 0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:37.200 that's when I moved back to Chicago from Tallahassee. And 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.280 that was just such a crazy time because I never 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.440 really wanted to go to college like that. College wasn't 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.560 really my twist. I wanted to be a rock star, 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.440 go to the league, or definitely not school. But that 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:55.280 was my mom's first and last wish. She said, Marcos Monico. 0:28:56.000 --> 0:29:00.360 My job as a parent, it's done when you graduate college, Monica. 0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.560 And even though I won't be there with you in 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:07.200 the physical, Monica, please this on her deathbed. These are 0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:13.320 last words. So I registered for Columbia College Chicago September nine, 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.560 and my mom passed away September ten, and I remember 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.280 reading her my schedule and that's how I know. She 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.200 was like, all right, cool, he's registered for school. He 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:27.840 going to school. I'm out. And three years later, I'm 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.680 in my uh my counselor's office, and I'm like, I 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.160 cannot believe I'm about to graduate. I can't believe it. 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.240 And she was like, yeah, and it's crazy with you 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:43.840 know this year being on Mother's Day. Wow. Three years later. Wow. 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.080 I walked out the office, walked to the President's office 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.160 for the first time in three years of being at Columbia. 0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.480 See the lady there, I say, ma'am, um, hey speak 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.600 to the president. She said, the President's book through the summer. 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.600 I said, well, you're about to watch me sleep on 0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.480 the floor in this office until I talk to him. 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.160 And she had a headset on hispanic lady. I remember 0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.040 her taking her head set off, like, what you're not 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.800 gonna do is sleep in the office. How can I 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.320 help you? And I told her everything and she just 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:19.640 so happened to be a single mother. Hispanic over still 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:21.440 where I was coming from, and I said, I need 0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:24.240 to speak. I need to say something in graduation. I 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:28.120 know I'm not the validatorian. She cried her eyes out, 0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.800 asked me to leave, made some calls to this day, 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.000 I'm the only person to speak at Columbia College graduation 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.800 not be the validatorian. I dedicated that degree to my mama. 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.920 That was my first grammy. Come on, man, come on, 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.520 my first grammy. Oh he's still flossed into that's my 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.480 first Grammy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's not a 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.280 floss that I never want to gramm me. I got 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:57.040 nine nominations. Oh you think no one? Yeah, I got 0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.280 nine nominations. I got nine nominations and a win people, 0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:04.280 Jennifer Hudson one. Therefore, I want you. Did you did 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.400 R and B album up the year? Sure? We got 0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:10.480 damn grabbed. Then I'll show you the certificate. I could 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:15.640 show you my driver's license to hate on it was hating. 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.000 You got to change now though, they change the rule now, 0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.040 So now R and B album can get if you are, 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:21.880 if you're a part of it, you can. That should 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:25.560 be retroactive. Should that should be retroactive? Make the call, 0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.000 you know I am make the call. You can go 0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:30.719 right there next to the R and B money thing. 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.880 Until then you don't respecting that's what you're doing. Cool, 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:43.400 Jake bro At least you should. That's crazy. I went 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:47.280 through college, I graduated, I dedicated that degree with my mama. 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.200 You know what I'm saying, Like now I'm making mix 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:57.360 tapes in the basement hood hood you and now you're 0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.200 doing street music for paper bag money and teaching Look 0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.560 and teach him to so the head of my department. 0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.840 I brought him three contracts. One was to I think 0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.720 red Zone read something might be like tricking them in 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.560 that line. The other one was Barry Hankerson. I forget 0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:15.920 who the other one was, but I brought him all 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.840 three contracts. Right. I still had that basketball mentality, like 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.040 all right, tiping when you go to the NBA. And 0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.520 he was like he kind of saw the thirst on 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.480 me a little bit and was like, coach, don't feel 0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.920 like you gotta run to l A right away. If 0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.960 you want to stay home and get your stuff together, 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.920 you know, get your house in order, you can do that, 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.760 you know, and and if you want, you can teach here. 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:42.880 I was like, teach what he said, I've never had 0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:46.520 a student like you make up a class left out 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.320 his office because I was like, he might take that back. 0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.400 He only think you know what he said, left out 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:54.560 the office. Took my favorite three syllabus from all five 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.680 years of college and wrote a curriculum called hip Hop 0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.520 Beat Making and then Out of Tune at Columbia University 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.360 Columbia College, Chicago. So just lean away this. Jeremiah Kanye 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:10.840 is downtown and uh. He made a couple of edits 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.200 and they offered me another class, and you know, I 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.840 want you to teach my other class, Producing Recording Music three, 0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.560 and I'm gonna teach four. So I taught two classes 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.959 hip Hop be making and Producing Recordings three for two 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:29.640 years and you're what. And I remember the first day 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:33.520 of class. It was at the Rhythm Cafe, is a 0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.280 studio in Chicago where we had the class, and they 0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.480 hadn't opened it up yet. So the students are there. 0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:41.800 I'm there, but I'm dressed like how it was dressed 0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.520 last semester. And they're like, man, where the fund the 0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.680 teacher at man, how the fund this? They ain't open 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.360 up the building, blah blah blah, man this is and 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.520 they're just going crazy and I'm sitting there looking like 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.080 and then the guy comes opens the door and they 0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:57.680 were like, oh, man, what's your name. I was like, yeah, 0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.520 I'm the teacher, and y'all cuting my class. You're gonna 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.040 get a f you know what I'm saying. And it's 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:04.560 and it's normally on the first day because I don't 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.360 like y'all attitude. How we walked in on their gass 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:10.719 and every week I used to play all the beats 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.399 I made all week and just punch them in the nose. 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:18.280 They'd be like, Professor, you did this this week because 0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:22.560 I was man, I was to You're not though, It's 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.000 not like you can teach your beat this week. You 0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.800 want us to wrap over this. Not only is the 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:35.400 Beast not weak, but I'm inviting Damn. They're all the 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:39.719 guests from Kanye College dropout to because it's Chicago. He 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:44.320 comes GLC and Loupe Fiasca comes, uh Prolific, you know, 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.759 brin Fest. I'm bringing all of the guys to my 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.120 class and we had a mixtape at the end of 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:55.000 the semester, like it was. Mikey Rocks from the Cool 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.719 Kids was in my first class. So to this day, 0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.640 mighty be like Professor co Sign, like a lot of 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.080 people know me as professor. No, no, he was a student. 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:07.160 He's my first student too, Professor Professor Cosign still to 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.120 this day, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I 0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.279 think that that's where I really put together that. I 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:15.960 think that's where I got the formula. You know what 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.719 I'm saying, might have been you might be our first professor. Yeah, 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.440 we've had on the show bro right right, we've had 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:27.360 a sir. We had to serve personal sides. I'm a 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:33.360 doctor Church, so a doctor of music. Oh you got 0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:40.040 the honorary doctor doctor Church from where harvest? Harvest? Okay, 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:45.200 Hey Dallas, I'm sipping one more time. I'm sitting one 0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:50.680 more time to the well schooled church. It's just us 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:57.879 in the streets. Now, you know what, I feel safe 0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:07.360 around you with me. You know you've been in the 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:13.560 streets with me. Man, that's crazy. So you're the professor 0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:18.800 with the fire beats, completely tapped in, completely immersed in 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:23.480 the Chicago culture, music culture. M hmm. What does the break? 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.760 Where does the break happen? Because from everything you've just said, 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:31.759 like you're ready, You're ready for the big league, You're 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:36.760 ready for the NBA. When does someone recognize your potential? 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:44.360 And I'm moderating a panel at school, right, and so 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.160 we have guest speakers that come in and talk to 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.319 the students. One of those guest speakers was a guy 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.239 by the name of c l And he had a 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.640 DJ pool called Digi Wax Wax and so on the 0:36:54.760 --> 0:37:00.600 panel he was talking that ship. I'm like afterward, I 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:01.920 went up to him, like, Yo, you were talking to 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.320 this ship man, how long are you in town? You're like, 0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.480 I'm just here for the night man, and I'm like, well, 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.200 it's cool. I want to take you to the West Side. 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.200 Give you some Uncle Remus chicken. I don't know if 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.600 you had Uncle Remus, but that mouth sauce is crazy. 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.800 I know we know him for Heralds, but as a 0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.799 West Side er Uncle Remus, you know what I'm saying. 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.600 And then my studio was on Sacramento. Drove h the 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:25.120 Uncle Remus drove him to the studio, played them some beats. 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.239 He said, all right, cool. So on that panel, I 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:30.440 know I said I got DIGIAX, but I'm actually partners 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:34.040 with MS. And he's coming off of this is why 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:41.239 I'm hot Global Smash smash, and we don't need the 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.200 big producers that the labels are introducing us to. We 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.799 need just something different. I'm not looking for the name. 0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.680 I just want a different sound and Yo, Ship is different. 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.399 And so I'm gonna fly you to Atlanta to work 0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.239 with MS. I'm like, oh, Ship, you know what I'm saying. 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:02.240 So the next day my homie comes to the studio 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.880 and say, you ain't the hottest producer in Chicago. Bro, 0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.840 It's another nigger. That got you, and I said the 0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.960 next day, next day, one of my homies, I said, 0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.520 all right, okay, we'll play me to beat that says 0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.840 that he's nicer than me. He played the beat in 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.759 the light bulb went off on my head. I said, Oh, 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:22.160 he liked the beat because it's a hook on it, 0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:23.560 and I don't put hooks on my beat. I just 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:27.360 be making. I'm a beat maker. I said, look that 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.480 beat that you love. Put that on my on my 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.680 desktop in the studio, and tomorrow'm gonna come in here 0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.640 and make that beat, daddy, okay, because you got me 0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:40.120 fucked up. Came in the next day, made the beat, daddy, 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.320 but then set a hook on there. Move if you 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:45.799 want to, if you want to, if you want to move, move, 0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:50.120 if you want to, just put something there. Sent that 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:53.239 to At least he jumped right on it. That's my 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:57.279 first goal. It's my first goal record. Wow, it's my 0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:02.200 first competitive You don't don't come in here and tell 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:06.000 me I'm not the nicest in are you? Yeah? Are 0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:08.640 you stupid? He dumb? He's stupid, He dumb. I was 0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:12.239 so offended. Took a Jordan and that netflix. I took 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:15.000 the fence to that. I took offense to that, say 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.359 that bro and went crazy bro. And then I ended 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:22.680 up executive producing the album. I didn't know that. I 0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.040 like seven records on there. Wow, I'm gonna tell you 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:29.160 how I do. I'm another past are shout out to 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.960 LaToya Lucky. I produced a song with LaToya and M's 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:36.000 called Love roller Coaster. Yeah, actually you didn't. Did you 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.880 did what you didn't? I didn't because I did her vocals. 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.680 And this is how I find out who the interns are, 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:50.440 because listen, LaToya, I love you. She wasn't going in 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.319 the studio with some new guys. She had never heard 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:57.080 of it. And this is when we're doing Regret and 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:03.239 ye good good to me. Yeah, this is the same 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.640 exact time. She's on Capitol at the Times as well, 0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:13.840 and I remember was it was, and I remember he 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.800 came in there and he's like, Toya, we needs you 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:19.440 on this man's record and blah blah blah blah, and 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.799 I need you to go in with the producers who 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:25.320 did it. Their name is the interns. And she's like, 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:31.919 oh yeah, And I'm literally a fly on the wall, 0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.880 like because we're doing we're doing her altum and she like, 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:41.879 I do JA do my vocals? I'm like, what, it's 0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:49.040 not my song. I don't know that that. Yeah, you 0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:52.520 didn't have to do it. You know tanks on tours. 0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.160 You know what I mean tanking. We did our work 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.920 and tanks gone and I end up cutting the vocals. 0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:02.840 That's crazy. So that's how I who Yeah, I credit 0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:07.000 for that. Neither. You won't give me some that's you. 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.040 She should have gave you that out of her piece. 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:10.960 She should have gave you some pub out of her 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:16.120 She should have gave your fire something. Some things we 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.279 do for the coaching man. This is how I find 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.920 out who these guys are. Many and that was enough 0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:27.440 pipeline to um do a publishing deal with only a 0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:34.360 TV and Vincent Herbert has signed an artist from Chicago 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.840 by the name of Fieve. Him and Barry Hankerson. And 0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.480 it's crazy, but I say Barry was like he was 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.680 the churches to come on, man, come on man, so 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:59.560 uh shouting, yeah, I got some man. Barry Haggison, he's 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:03.359 the first Ergin. I remember being in his office two 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:08.520 days after graduation and he said, so, I heard the 0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.960 track stars wanted to sign you, but I don't understand. 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.759 Why would you want to sign to some niggas that 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.600 signed to me. Why woun't you just want to come home? 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:22.040 Why don't you just come home? I s all right, 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:30.520 what I'm saying, like wait what and no, no? This 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.480 after me him, So maybe I'm like twenty five now, 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.600 and uh I remember him playing, playing him some beats 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.040 and and some songs, and he was listening. He was like, 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.719 you're real talented, man, it's just you'll beat a little 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.840 light in the ass. And when I tell you about 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:51.200 one of my ribs cracked when he said, you know, 0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:56.120 say like nothing like that. It beats a little light 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.799 in the ass. But don't worry. Don't worry. I'll get 0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.040 you with him. I get you with him, man, and 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.239 then get that together. But that was the beginning of 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:08.040 me formulating the disrespectful away because you're not gonna tell 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:09.840 me my beast is light in the ass man, that 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.040 she used to haunt me. And heavy from now on, 0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.840 Heavy from now on. I'm saying, yeah, you took everything personally, 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:22.240 it's looked like nass. He told me. I wasn't a producer. 0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.720 So you're you're song right, You're you're a good songwriter. 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.480 You're an amazing vocalist, You're an amazing singer. You're a 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.799 good songwriter, but you're you're not a producer. So we're 0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.040 gonna get this. Maybe I deserve produced the right way. 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.400 I just watched you at Love Records in full tank 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.319 tanky production mode. I don't know if you realized how 0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.439 much you was in your bag last week. I wasn't 0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.920 even Bro, that was until you said it, and then 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.360 Stacy called me. Stacy Barth called me and was like, 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.480 I mean like he said the same thing you said. 0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:02.200 You were just quarterback is it's chaos. It was absolutely 0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.200 you saw that there was a leader that needed to 0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:08.840 be somebody need to lead. And how you lead that 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:13.080 set you got lucky day, you know what I'm saying, Camper, Camper, 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:17.319 Tim Kelly. It was it was a zoo in the room. 0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.160 It was a zoo and I was like, Nana, I 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:26.640 gotta and the orchestration and then because people have so 0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:28.800 much respect for you the way, everybody just kind of 0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.320 fell in line. Bro. I just it was real general 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.880 ship though, and I grew as a producer. You hit 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:35.880 me the next day. I was like, uh, I agree, 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.920 I didn't because you and it your business in your 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:42.080 natural habits, set living life. But it's like Barry Hikerson 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.920 telling me I'm not a producer. That's crazy. I'll take 0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:51.359 that personally. I wanted to beat Camping Yes you did, 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:55.200 Yes you did, and the song he told me that 0:44:55.520 --> 0:45:00.719 wasn't good for production that production state. Yeah, and it 0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:05.560 ended up being the song that was the foundation of 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.960 my career. Shout out listen, shout out to Bara Hankinson 0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:15.200 for applying the pressure absolutely, applying the pressure absolutely because 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.040 if you don't have somebody, because all he's doing is 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.200 telling his truth, right, if you don't have somebody that 0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.520 you know that. One of my favorite proverbs, iron Sharper 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:25.440 is iron. You know what I'm saying, You don't got somebody. 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.520 And that's why I feel like Jay is a cheat code. 0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.719 You know what I'm saying for you, because Jake gonna 0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.480 talk that ship and goddamn trying to tell you down 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:38.480 without I'm not without love, but the words would be like, 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.400 you gotta have tough skin, you you gotta be, you 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:51.959 gotta down, you gotta have tough alligator skin, you gotta 0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:58.360 have Detroit gator skin to deal with. I love it. 0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:02.080 I love it. It's perfect. But but I'm I'm a product. 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:07.640 You're a product. You're a product of tough teachings. Everything 0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:12.360 was tough love for me. Nothing was nothing was cuddling 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:16.000 and coddling and and and oh this is because I 0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:30.279 love none of that, straight up, none of it. The 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:35.680 Interns formed in college, right, so now I'm alone, you know, 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.640 to have a three bedroom home, to bathroom, a couple 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:42.239 of cards. My mom really set me up while she 0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:44.560 was here, and even after she was here, my mom 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:49.000 set me up, bro and I paid off the house. 0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.040 I paid for my tuition, and I put a studio 0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.520 in my basement, and I changed my major to music 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:59.239 business with a concentration and production. And in this art 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:04.759 of entreprene newership class, I incorporated this company, the Interns, 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:07.279 because I met An A and R through a guy 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.200 by the name of Kevin Sean A and R in 0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:16.680 the city name too to to Clark and shout my 0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:20.719 brother man, because he was the one that was like, 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.280 n we don't We're not gonna sign to Barry Hankerson. 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.560 Now that's not the that's not the play. The play 0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:28.120 is let's build it from scratch on our own, out 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.120 the mud. I've always had an idea for the interns, 0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:33.399 and I just thought that name was perfect, especially being 0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:37.640 in college, like hell yeah. And so I did a 0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:41.879 business plan on that company in college when we said 0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:46.239 we were going to produce, manage, and market, and so 0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:50.839 too was the manager. I was the producer. And then 0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.680 we shared the marketing. We should throw parties and ship 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:59.279 like that. In Chicago, we shared that together and after MS, 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.200 after we moved to l A, one of your l 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:04.040 A parties. I left early. I got about it there. 0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:08.040 It's a good time Chicago. Niggas wild Bro, the niggas 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.560 wild Bro. It's a good time. First days, they do 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:14.000 that rain dance. They do the rain dance. Chill. I 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:18.160 think it's called like footworking. Yes, yeah, Footwork's telling footworking 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:21.960 the rain dance. She is a monster because it has 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:27.560 a rain see and you gotta and if you really footworking, 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:30.680 abody has to do this to you. This is when 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:33.840 you go hypermode when you're dancing and your foot working too. 0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:37.640 Ski ski and you feel somebody do this, then you 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:47.320 go fast, get me, you got me? Old feel that 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:51.759 happens if body grab your shirt in the party. Oh man, 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.279 So y'all throwing parties y'all produces, and y'all managing some 0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:58.480 people too, too, started managing feed that the artist I 0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:00.800 was signed the bell, you know what I mean. And 0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.200 we uh, we were doing sessions out here, like as 0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:08.919 soon as we get this sony, they just started putting 0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:12.239 us on the blind date. Y'all living in Chicago still, No, 0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:16.040 we moved in uh oh nine, so after Him's happened, 0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:18.400 I see it. We got about it there, moved to 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:22.680 Woodland Hills. Um. I moved family and my mama's house 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.080 so that I could just come home and kind of, 0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:29.080 you know, go back and forth. And I remember one 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.520 of our first sessions, not our first session was with 0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:40.120 the Jackie Boys too, yes, sir, and they was like 0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:42.680 it was a session with us. They had to leave 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:44.600 early because they had to go work with Shaun Kingston 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:46.279 and it was burnt out there, like yo, even on 0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:50.560 the Shaun Kinson album. I have no more ideas, Coach, 0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:55.480 please come with us to this session. And I was like, 0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:56.960 why y'all want me? You know what I'm saying. You 0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.080 got Benny Blanco as the producer. You know what I'm saying, 0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:02.000 I'm a producer, and no, you're a writer, coach, and 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.120 even if you don't feel like writing, at least just 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:10.360 come and talk have fun. So I go there, they 0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:13.920 pull up the song and it's like it's almost like 0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:15.800 a look. You know, Shaun Kingston kind of had like 0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:19.400 a little Caribbean twang too. So I'm just making making 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:24.319 jokes like she's indecisive, luking my eyes. Girl, come up 0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.799 with the closa. I'm like just like doing wild ship, 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:31.600 just cracking jokes that the jokes turned into Shaun Kingston 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:36.839 featuring Justin Bieber, Any Meeting shot any Meani might need 0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:43.239 more love. Yo, that's my first co wrote it with 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:50.280 the Jackie Boards. It's my first multi platinum plaque. Wow, 0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:55.920 just by the homies saying come and crack jokes, come 0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.600 crack jokes with us nicking. The song is called any Meeting, 0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:00.680 So I mean, I get it, I get it. It's 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:10.279 I said, she's in decisive. So I remember thinking that 0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:12.520 I was supposed to be cool now, like on a 0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:15.839 whole another level because I got MS, I got Justin 0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.000 Bieber and a gold plack, got a platinum plaque. I 0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:23.160 should be the nigga out here. I wasn't I know, 0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:26.879 I've gotten you into the club. I was struggling. I'm 0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:31.200 still struggling. Hurry up, so we're about to walk in 0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.960 struggle okay, coach fixing the jacket and shirt and ship, 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.319 still trying to get across the street coast. Hurry up, 0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:42.239 you're not gonna get in. Get in, coach. Once we're 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:47.799 in it, you're done. So like, it was like trying 0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:49.759 to get over the hump of why don't you let 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:51.880 me in the club? Off my face? Car? Why is 0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:54.479 it not? Why is this not enough? Because A hunting 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:58.880 niggas with the placement. Man, it's true. So at the 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:02.279 time my manner, it was Troy Carter and he had 0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:05.799 Lady gott got signed. So I'm like, all right, that's 0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:07.839 it man, I'm gonna get on this guy album. It's 0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:12.359 a lay up. And I started making the beats right 0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:15.239 all right? I do. I call him glow stick music. 0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:18.720 There you can glow stick. I started. Yeah, I started 0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:21.839 trying to because it's like floor, Yeah, your tank sets 0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:25.520 for on the floor because you know he's a it's 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:28.200 gonna step about front. When you hear that, you think 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:30.600 Nix is coming out of nowhere. All right, it's time 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:35.000 for me trying to leave me on my birthday Vegas. 0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.320 After our meeting. I took him. I took him. It 0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:39.000 was a bunch of us we went. It was we 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.640 left at his house and went to this club and 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:43.520 it was fall on the floor and it was jumping 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.799 because it's New Years New Year's Path, and and they're 0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.200 sitting there. I'm having the time of my life. First 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:55.560 of I'm a little hot, and these things sitting let's 0:52:55.560 --> 0:53:03.399 go mad, go with me, come out? Why don't your party? 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.759 And Jay, it's good. I was sitting just like this, 0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:15.400 just listen to So I never got a really gut guy. 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.800 I never got the studio with what I'm saying. I 0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:19.400 never even got in the studio with lady. Did you 0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.439 meet her? I met her? Big all the little cool 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:30.240 that don't do speak on and So Katie Welly, Katie Welly, 0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.240 Katie shout out a couple of times on this podcast 0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:37.200 because Katie Welly is the reason why I can't let 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:40.960 It show. Katie has something to do with kat let 0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:44.399 it show because of the sample sample helping us get 0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:49.040 to Kate Bush, Katie Welly, big John, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:55.359 we wanted a mad dash Katie Wow. Katie Welly had 0:53:56.400 --> 0:54:00.560 one of the most uncomfortable conversations of her life because 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:03.080 I saw her struggling trying to tell me what she 0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:06.839 wanted to tell me. She was like, CO signed. It's 0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:12.239 when we signed you guys. We were hoping that we 0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:17.360 would get some of that like Chicago ghetto bounce, like 0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:20.120 the Boom, like the aid. Like. I was like, you 0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.799 want some you want the ship ship huh, you want 0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:29.600 the boom, Katie? She couldn't. It's tough when you gotta 0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:32.000 make white people talk like that. This is snickering, but 0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:35.279 she was. She was trying to it's your fault. I like, 0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:37.560 given her what she signed you for. I wasn't. I 0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.480 was not. I was not. She had our logo in 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:44.560 her office, and I was just She mentioned us in 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.360 her thirty for thirty under Billboard. That touched me. I 0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:49.000 was like, Yo, we just met you. You don't had 0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:52.839 to drop our name and Billboard. That was a big 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:55.759 look for us, for her to for her to drop 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.600 our drop our names in her article. And so she 0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:00.799 was like just trying to expe ass like I want 0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:03.040 the old you back. I don't want the Lady Gaga 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:12.480 chaser after broke that. Bro, that's when you can tell 0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:15.200 the motherfucker, Like, stop chasing that lot of take it 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:18.640 right there, because a lot of times in this business, 0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:24.120 we choose our business partnerships by who people work with 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:27.840 or for thinking they're gonna get us in those rooms 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.960 or put us in and it's like, that's not your path, 0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:35.640 that's not even what you do. Why are you chasing like, man, 0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:41.160 I've watched so many um you know, being politically correct 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:48.920 as I am never um urban artists, go get white management. 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:54.000 There you go the funk are you doing? Funk are 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:57.520 you doing? Get with the people who understand what you 0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:03.400 do and be great, know where to take and be great. Relax, Relax. 0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:05.920 You're not getting on those projects and you're not getting 0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:07.799 in those rooms. And if you get in that room, 0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:09.680 in that room, it's going to be what you call 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:12.520 it earlier, the photo op and other ship that's not 0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:15.240 going to touch that does not touch your bank account. 0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:18.840 Straight up. So man, big shout to Katie for this 0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:24.360 conversation of like, yeah, after she says, get back to you. 0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:28.640 One of my partners from Chicago dialer, Man, you know 0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:31.200 what I'm saying. He worked with Dirk Oh TF you 0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:34.520 know what I'm saying. He was He was a role 0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:39.520 managing Big Sean and he introduced me to him and 0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:43.840 I remember playing him some beats. And this is before 0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:46.279 I started smoking weekly. I used to be allergic. That's 0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:49.359 a whole another story. I want to touch that before 0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:56.080 stay and you were allergic to it were past tense 0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.279 that used to be allergic to weed, and way like, 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:02.319 what was your reaction? Like hitch, Like as soon as 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:05.719 I tap it, my whole face is Sweller in real life. 0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:09.480 And so that was I remember in high school. I 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:13.760 gave it a try and my mama being like because 0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:15.879 I wasn't allergic to anything, you know what I'm saying, 0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:17.960 and my mama being like Medicael, and I was like, man, 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.840 I went to Long John Silva's. It was the fish 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.800 at Long John Silva's. You know what I'm saying. She's like, Minicael, 0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:25.200 you have to stay away from that. I don't. I've 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:30.360 never taken you there. Why are you figured that? The 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:34.560 whole time? Mr Weed? And it wasn't until I broke 0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:38.880 up with my first baby Mama that I was on 0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:42.080 some real depression. And I also was working with James 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:46.400 Foller Roy a lot. So between the depression, between the 0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:49.800 depression and the curiosity, and he's gonna make it look 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.080 fun too. I just stayed in the house and built 0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.480 up a tolerance, like my face would be swollen, and 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.800 I just fought through it. I fought through it until 0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:03.000 my body knew it's gonna to kill me. So my 0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:06.080 body was like, all right, we got it. We got it. 0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:08.680 Like the kid who eats dirt, really what that is. 0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:13.000 It was a lot of ship happening to my body, 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:15.720 and I just was like, we can get through this. 0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:22.280 Nigga conditioned himself to smoke weed. You can't get through this. 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:28.560 You like the Chronicles of Riddick. No, bro, you are wild, insane. 0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:30.800 So you meet Big Sean. So I mean Big Sean. 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:32.919 He hit in the weed and he stopped and said, 0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:36.720 am I high? Or are these beats really good? I 0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:38.840 took offense to that, you know what I'm saying, like 0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.160 because I don't even know what that even means, Like 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:45.200 you mean, are you hot? And I remember leaving, I 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:49.600 was with my homie, Aaron Michael Cox, alright, my my 0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:55.960 younger brother, and dialer was like, yo, look man, calm down, 0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.280 I'm gonna have him come by your studio. Came by 0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:02.480 the studio and I was working on the track. The 0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:04.200 first track that I was working on was a little 0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:06.400 like light in the ass, like what Barry was saying. 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:09.960 And then um, he kind of stopped the session and 0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:11.560 was like, all right, what hold on? If I got 0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:13.720 to beat in my head though, I got an idea 0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:15.960 in my mind, can you make something to something I have? 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:19.840 I'm like, yeah, go for it, like what you got 0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:26.560 that man said ass ass ass ass ass ass as 0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:30.920 as as as as as as as as as as 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:36.920 as as as stopped. I make that motherfucker Hammertime in 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:48.280 roll And in the moment I was like, yo, that 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:53.400 is I started clapping. I remember myself clapping like so poetic, 0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:56.360 you know what I'm saying. I wanted the keyboard like 1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:04.600 you know what I'm saying. Then I thought about him 1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:08.080 saying make that motherfucking hammertime. I said, oh, let me 1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:14.800 get that guy damn hammer download. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:18.920 I remember in Hammertime when he said now broke it down, now, 1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:21.400 didn't I remember that it was a time where the 1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:24.840 record went somewhere else because he said now broke it down. 1:00:24.920 --> 1:00:27.880 That so when we said make that motherfucker hammertons Barry 1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:30.560 James Brown as I had to go to that piece 1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:32.160 of the sample when he said break it down that 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:37.200 in its inn dropped that bitch right there, my eight 1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:42.800 oh eight that said Mr Barry Hackerston, you don't know me, Katie, Katy, 1:00:42.880 --> 1:00:48.680 this for you baby, And now man, we now we 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:53.000 now we double platinum. Now we're in the club finally 1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:56.160 feeling what we want to feel in the club. I 1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:58.880 felt felt like I made it with you. You had that. 1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:02.880 I was like, hols, my young nigga did Dad would 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:11.480 come on? They got great? So yeah, that was that. 1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:14.880 That gave me the feeling I was. I was, man, 1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:17.960 I was looking for that feeling. And then Nicky jumped 1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:21.040 on the remix and said, in the Islands of Wikiki, 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:28.680 it's like, oh, we're going again. We're going again more. 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:37.280 And this was like the beginning of the fucking the run, bro, 1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:41.120 This was the beginning of like those guys got it, 1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:43.240 you know what I'm saying, So give us a rundown 1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:45.640 of that. And then with that, what that turns into 1:01:45.760 --> 1:01:47.640 what the what the records that come after the like 1:01:47.920 --> 1:01:49.880 how does how this plays out? When you get those 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:53.960 phone calls now that are like I need that because 1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:56.680 that is a that's a very real thing in this industry. 1:01:57.720 --> 1:02:02.040 They don't want variety, they want that. They want what's proven. 1:02:03.160 --> 1:02:09.520 And you into found a space, this proven space for 1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:12.480 the interns where y'all niggas cooked and made a lot 1:02:12.560 --> 1:02:14.959 of money and had a lot of success. So after 1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:18.200 ask give us yeah, I mean, that was it. It 1:02:18.320 --> 1:02:21.560 was just like one. It was like all of the 1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:24.600 political the fight that we was trying to get just 1:02:24.800 --> 1:02:29.280 literally scooted to the side. Like it turned into I 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:32.080 didn't even care who I was working with. Every day, 1:02:32.120 --> 1:02:34.760 I knew somebody popping was gonna be at the studio, 1:02:35.400 --> 1:02:37.480 and I knew he was going to deliver. I looked 1:02:37.520 --> 1:02:42.240 at my ask cap uh the other day and it's 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:46.439 three hundred seventeen joints in there. Three seven. My goal 1:02:47.560 --> 1:02:50.400 is six hundred, So I'm halfway home, you know what 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:53.800 I'm saying. But a lot of the beef was in 1:02:53.960 --> 1:02:56.680 this era. So after that, I remember having a meeting 1:02:56.720 --> 1:03:00.080 wood Karen Quak, dropping off some beasts to Karen what 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:04.840 she gave those beats too. A good friend of hers 1:03:04.880 --> 1:03:08.840 by the name of the Dream. The Dream was on 1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:13.800 tour with Rihanna and going through beats wrote her a song. 1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:16.880 The last song on her album. He wrote a song 1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:23.720 called Kate Kate, Kate, Kate, Kate Kate, And I remember 1:03:23.720 --> 1:03:25.960 when I made that bet because I originally made that 1:03:26.040 --> 1:03:29.120 beat for Christina Aguilera and Eric Belinger wrote the song. 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:33.960 It's a song called Mary Go Around. And in typical 1:03:34.040 --> 1:03:36.600 like industry fashion, you do a record that you love 1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:39.080 and they don't pay for it. It never comes out. 1:03:39.880 --> 1:03:41.560 And I'm just like, you know what, man, I'm about 1:03:41.600 --> 1:03:44.280 to start moving these beats around. You won't pay me 1:03:44.400 --> 1:03:47.040 for the beat. I'm giving it to somebody else. That 1:03:47.240 --> 1:03:53.840 somebody else was Rehanna, and that's a good brod. I 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:58.320 remember when we first got the news that the song 1:03:58.480 --> 1:04:00.200 was going on the album. They told he it was 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:02.320 an interlude, and me and to him, we got into 1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:07.200 a fist fight because I was so mad that we 1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:10.360 finally won the Rihanna Sweepsteaks and they were talking about 1:04:10.440 --> 1:04:13.360 we weren't gonna get publishing because it was just the 1:04:13.440 --> 1:04:16.680 interlude and you know, we will pay your feed but 1:04:17.480 --> 1:04:20.560 and I'm just like, come on, man, like this is 1:04:20.680 --> 1:04:23.440 this is one of these is it? Like? You know 1:04:23.480 --> 1:04:26.360 what I'm saying this one? And I remember to being like, 1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:29.440 but you gotta relax, man, this is the best on 1:04:29.600 --> 1:04:32.200 the album. All this ship is gonna go like chill 1:04:32.400 --> 1:04:36.080 like he knew, knew the whole time. He was like chilled. 1:04:36.120 --> 1:04:39.120 I'm like the funk that man sick at it, you 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:43.360 know what? Full and he was he was like a 1:04:43.440 --> 1:04:45.720 little trade with with dope. Boy. Guys, why are you 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:47.960 being in my head like that? Why are you just 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:51.720 getting say the joke before me? I'm trying to get 1:04:51.760 --> 1:04:54.120 to the world. What are you talking about? Swing trying 1:04:54.120 --> 1:05:02.280 to knock the air out? Because I was Coast so well, like, listen, guys, 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:07.040 Coast Coast is the nicest guy ever. He doesn't want 1:05:07.040 --> 1:05:09.560 to fight, he doesn't want to do those things. So 1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:12.240 to get him to that point, man to really make 1:05:12.320 --> 1:05:16.600 it mad and and he's still gonna just punch the air. 1:05:18.920 --> 1:05:22.040 That's it. So I'm swinging trying to knock the air out, 1:05:22.480 --> 1:05:24.960 you know what I'm saying too, like trying to call 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:29.120 me down. And then like a few weeks later, I'm 1:05:29.160 --> 1:05:32.720 in Greatstone and I hear the DJ say like we 1:05:32.840 --> 1:05:35.040 got Rihanna in the building, blah blah blah BLAHM Like yo, 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:38.400 I'm on this lady album. She got me as an interlude. 1:05:38.640 --> 1:05:40.880 I ain never even met this lady, and I saw 1:05:41.000 --> 1:05:45.280 Chris and a coute. I'm just like Chris Man. I 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:48.040 just heard the DJ saying Rihanna was here. I produced 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:50.760 birthday cake and I never even met her. He's like, oh, 1:05:50.800 --> 1:05:54.800 you ain't never met Rihanna. Come on, man walks me 1:05:54.960 --> 1:06:02.280 over there to the section. Bro c we re. He says, Rihanna, 1:06:02.400 --> 1:06:05.000 this is CoA signed from the interns. They did. They 1:06:05.040 --> 1:06:08.240 did a birthday cake for you. She said, Oh my god, 1:06:08.320 --> 1:06:12.040 you did? You did? I love that song? Dive into 1:06:12.160 --> 1:06:16.640 my arms. I've seen the pictures flashing. I envisioned myself 1:06:16.680 --> 1:06:20.480 on media take out as her new boyfriend. I knew 1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:24.200 they was going right. Who was the mystery man with Rihanna? 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:28.120 So I'm I'm actually holding onto the hug a little 1:06:28.160 --> 1:06:31.480 longer so that I can have this moment of her 1:06:31.520 --> 1:06:34.040 new nigga. You know what, I'm saying that happy and 1:06:34.120 --> 1:06:39.480 we're happy, and we're happy and we have this funny 1:06:39.520 --> 1:06:42.120 because the media takeout article that I ended up getting 1:06:42.360 --> 1:06:45.720 was with Angela Simmons and they named they put somebody 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:47.960 else name on top of man. They didn't put my name. 1:06:48.000 --> 1:06:50.960 It was like a basketball player it was like Angela 1:06:51.040 --> 1:06:55.000 was such a such she just like, guys, we're supposed 1:06:55.000 --> 1:06:57.240 to do this for Rihanna man and actually used my name. 1:06:57.560 --> 1:07:00.760 But anyway, she said, I have the idea. Though, I 1:07:00.840 --> 1:07:04.200 have an idea. I think I'm gonna put Chris Brown 1:07:04.280 --> 1:07:06.600 on the remix. So I want you to come by 1:07:07.040 --> 1:07:10.360 because my fans are asking for the Rihanna Navy wants 1:07:10.440 --> 1:07:14.680 the whole song. I'm just like Chris Brown on this, 1:07:15.920 --> 1:07:17.840 y'all back to y'all going to get back together for this. 1:07:18.480 --> 1:07:22.600 So I'm not your boyfriend. So I'm not your boyfriend. 1:07:22.640 --> 1:07:24.919 But the people for me to take out any ship, 1:07:25.360 --> 1:07:29.080 they don't write this up because I'm not. Because she 1:07:29.200 --> 1:07:34.400 can get why and yeah, she called Chris and that 1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:36.800 remix came out and went to number one. And when 1:07:36.800 --> 1:07:42.200 I tell you, I had never got a performance check different. 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:46.680 It's different the performance when it's on radio, when the 1:07:46.760 --> 1:07:50.040 song performs, when performed, every song does not perform. Every song. 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:52.640 Don't dance for you. Yeah, so don't dance for you 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:56.919 now watch this though. It's crazy because to this day, 1:07:57.600 --> 1:08:01.160 that version of the song is not available in iTunes 1:08:01.240 --> 1:08:05.120 or Spotify and it's never been sold. So I've had 1:08:05.200 --> 1:08:07.880 this conversation with Dream a few times, like, bro, like, 1:08:08.880 --> 1:08:12.880 how much money didn't we get because we never sold 1:08:12.960 --> 1:08:15.280 it and people can't stream it. He was like, it 1:08:15.360 --> 1:08:18.720 ain't nothing crazy, goes like four or six million? Nothing 1:08:18.760 --> 1:08:28.160 crazy though, he's too rich, he's too rich. Understand because 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:30.600 he understand. He to understand where no, no, no, no, 1:08:30.680 --> 1:08:37.280 he understand. He understands. It's I respected slapped you upside 1:08:37.320 --> 1:08:39.960 your head. It's nothing crazy six million like you like 1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:44.160 you're like, but then, yeah, there was a there was 1:08:44.200 --> 1:08:45.840 a there was a different thing that that went along 1:08:45.880 --> 1:08:48.000 with that record. So I get it. I get it, 1:08:48.320 --> 1:08:50.120 But I will say that record couldn't come out. I 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:53.519 will say if at any point because this year is 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:56.519 the tenuere anniversary of talk that talk of that album 1:08:56.920 --> 1:09:01.439 tenor anniversary this year two she ever puts that version 1:09:01.560 --> 1:09:04.960 up in the streaming UM until my wife's packard ship 1:09:05.120 --> 1:09:07.720 we moved them removing that day. It's out of here. 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:16.040 Sound the upgrade. Any point you want to put that 1:09:16.080 --> 1:09:22.960 song up in streamings, streamings, streaming for the fans to 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:27.200 listen to. Chris Brown and Rihanna. My family greatly appreciated 1:09:28.280 --> 1:09:32.160 the pilocios is I would love that. So, yes, that's 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:37.760 telve Is. I can't I can't believe I really did 1:09:37.800 --> 1:09:39.559 get it into All my songs come from a fence. 1:09:39.920 --> 1:09:43.799 So Anthony Sele comes to the studio. He was partners 1:09:43.800 --> 1:09:47.599 with Troy Carter and managing no still manages Naza this day, 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:50.400 and he said he came by to just trying to 1:09:50.400 --> 1:09:51.680 figure O, all right, what you know what's next for 1:09:51.720 --> 1:09:54.800 the interns, Like what y'all what y'are working on? And 1:09:56.360 --> 1:09:58.960 I'm like, bro, like you are manager, Bro, like though 1:09:59.000 --> 1:10:00.880 something off the glass? You know what I'm saying? What 1:10:01.000 --> 1:10:03.519 you got? He was like, it's crazy because I was 1:10:03.720 --> 1:10:06.640 just about to call here boy and seeing him these 1:10:06.720 --> 1:10:10.200 NAS vocals. Man, I'm just like looking at too, like, 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:14.479 who man is this? Bro? Who man is this? Because 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:17.840 he in our studios about to send somebody else. He's 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:21.160 our co manager. He boy, just he fresh off niggas 1:10:21.200 --> 1:10:28.880 in Paris, signed to Kanye, my Chicago hero bro. And 1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:31.439 so he was like, oh, you know what, my bad man, 1:10:31.439 --> 1:10:33.400 I'm seeing that. I'm seeing the fouls coach I got. 1:10:33.520 --> 1:10:35.400 But it's it's not that much though. It's just a 1:10:35.520 --> 1:10:42.200 vocal from Nas, a baseline from Salam remy and sample 1:10:42.680 --> 1:10:45.960 that heavy D. Gave us a late heavy D. Alright 1:10:46.000 --> 1:10:49.479 pete and salute to the legend. Absolutely, so he gave 1:10:49.560 --> 1:10:52.559 me that pro to a session with those three sounds 1:10:52.600 --> 1:10:55.640 in there, and I remember talking to Fab about it, like, man, 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:57.439 you know what he said he was gonna do? And 1:10:57.520 --> 1:11:00.200 she said, coach, but it's Nas though, right, and you 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:06.800 know your beats are kind of shiny. Mm hm. You've 1:11:06.840 --> 1:11:10.880 been You've been offended twice the time and just on 1:11:10.960 --> 1:11:19.840 one song, I said, mhm mm hmm. I went through 1:11:19.920 --> 1:11:26.000 my hard drive to find the filthiest, dirtiest fun they 1:11:26.040 --> 1:11:30.720 can put up. What give me the dirtiestre What is 1:11:30.720 --> 1:11:34.280 the dirtiest snare that I owned? You can't that thing? Thing? 1:11:34.560 --> 1:11:39.280 I'm going through the hard drive. And that's how NASA 1:11:39.360 --> 1:11:43.640 don comes about. New York girls know my dude, not 1:11:44.160 --> 1:11:48.080 another man if she doesn't give me that your beats 1:11:48.080 --> 1:11:49.960 of shiny pep talk. And I remember sending the beat 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:52.880 to Anthony Sile and recording him the first time he 1:11:53.000 --> 1:11:57.920 heard it and he was just like, shit, you know 1:11:57.960 --> 1:11:59.719 what I mean that. I remember being in the studio 1:11:59.800 --> 1:12:03.599 with Nas right like now we're building doing other records, 1:12:03.840 --> 1:12:06.439 and I remember this man. I remember him being the 1:12:06.680 --> 1:12:11.040 coolest man I have ever met. Yo, because I'm funny 1:12:11.120 --> 1:12:13.800 bro and I'm cracking jokes and people are laughing, but 1:12:13.960 --> 1:12:21.000 nos w and be like hilarious laughing. That's how he 1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:28.920 laughed at me. He laughed cools, a little scratchy, little hilarious. 1:12:29.720 --> 1:12:36.840 I'm just like, come back to the beach, Get back 1:12:36.880 --> 1:12:46.760 to the beach. And then uh um Astrid was on 1:12:46.880 --> 1:12:49.800 our management team, Astrid and she called and said, Nicky 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:51.680 want to I want to work with y'all. And we 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:55.280 got up with Nikki and Nicky was like, I need 1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:58.720 a song that makes my dancers feel like how they 1:12:58.800 --> 1:13:01.800 felt when ass came mouth, because I remember being on 1:13:01.920 --> 1:13:05.400 tour and I remember just watching them going, I need 1:13:05.560 --> 1:13:07.600 I need one of those, you know, I need my 1:13:07.680 --> 1:13:12.280 own ass. I'm like, I got you, Nikki. And so 1:13:12.479 --> 1:13:17.280 she had a verse in this sample idea um the 1:13:17.320 --> 1:13:20.880 boom boom boom boom boom from Polo Polo down. And 1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:22.760 so she was like, I have this idea that I like, 1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:25.120 and I like it a lot. I know you can 1:13:25.200 --> 1:13:29.400 make me love it. I was like, all right, So 1:13:29.520 --> 1:13:32.200 we got in the room. The first thing we did 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:34.519 was listen to the whole so makes a lot of sample. 1:13:34.680 --> 1:13:36.439 Just listen to the whole songs. Vibe to the song 1:13:36.520 --> 1:13:39.080 for a second. When he got to that part where 1:13:39.080 --> 1:13:42.320 he was like, my Ana Conda, don't won't none it, 1:13:43.120 --> 1:13:44.439 she was like, that's how you need to start the 1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:46.559 ship if you're gonna do. If I'm you and I'm 1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:49.400 making it me, I'm starting with that. You say less 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:53.080 than me, You say less than me, You shut your 1:13:53.120 --> 1:13:55.880 mouth while you talk to you my anda kind of 1:13:56.000 --> 1:13:59.400 bom my and the kind of boom and that's what 1:13:59.479 --> 1:14:02.400 I was saying, smart as bam, you thunk like the 1:14:02.640 --> 1:14:05.760 arrangement of the that it was like an opportunity for 1:14:05.880 --> 1:14:10.360 me to do this track and then pay homage and 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:12.719 then put the school bell usually to put the school 1:14:12.760 --> 1:14:14.840 at the beginning. I'm putting the school bell every time 1:14:14.920 --> 1:14:17.719 that break happens. I'm over at school bell this mother player. 1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:21.400 So people know, you know what I'm saying that this 1:14:21.520 --> 1:14:23.040 is me. You know what I mean Because even on 1:14:23.080 --> 1:14:25.760 the NOAs the Dog song, I feel like Jason Josh 1:14:25.760 --> 1:14:27.600 would turn my bill down in the mix and it 1:14:27.720 --> 1:14:29.960 was like in the second verse area, it's like you 1:14:30.040 --> 1:14:33.960 turned my bill down, So shout the Jason Joshua, because 1:14:34.040 --> 1:14:36.479 that's and that's who makes the ask and the gang 1:14:36.520 --> 1:14:38.760 of my records man, Jason Joshua got it. But he 1:14:38.800 --> 1:14:40.439 turned your bell down. He turned my bill down on 1:14:40.520 --> 1:14:43.040 the nods. I don't know why he did that. It 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:49.240 was too shiny. No, it's too shiny for the it happens. 1:14:49.920 --> 1:14:52.680 Jason knows, he knows. He took the lead on it. 1:14:53.400 --> 1:14:55.080 He'll take the lead to the league. He got me. 1:14:55.240 --> 1:14:57.639 He took the lead on one of our songs, remember 1:14:57.720 --> 1:15:01.200 keeping one hundred and And we walked in the studio 1:15:01.840 --> 1:15:04.960 and he starts playing keep It one Hunting and I'm like, 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:08.320 as soon as it starts, I'm like, what I make 1:15:08.400 --> 1:15:11.479 his face right and he says, wait for it, wait 1:15:11.560 --> 1:15:22.679 on it, nigga, Oh my god, oh my doing started 1:15:22.760 --> 1:15:26.120 over even that suspense for you. You know what, Jason's right. 1:15:26.280 --> 1:15:29.120 He's gonna make sure you know that he's right. You're 1:15:29.120 --> 1:15:31.200 gonna make sure you know a hundred times over. You 1:15:31.280 --> 1:15:33.320 guys gotta funk with me. You funk with me and 1:15:33.400 --> 1:15:37.360 funk with me only bro that ship. I was like, 1:15:37.640 --> 1:15:42.240 you are amazing, Yeah, because Jason and Jason and hits 1:15:42.240 --> 1:15:44.360 you with a little bit of like co production on 1:15:44.479 --> 1:15:47.160 your mix. No, it's not like, it's not like, it's 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:53.200 not like Jason is definitely producing Nigga's record. Absolutely listen 1:15:53.240 --> 1:15:56.840 when we send a Canada the show and Cana the 1:15:56.880 --> 1:15:58.559 show is done. Like just do what you do. Get 1:15:58.600 --> 1:16:01.720 a mix I got, can't let a show back with 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:07.360 a snare on the hook. I was like, did you 1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:17.840 He said, absolutely needed it. I like it. I like it. 1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:19.960 I like it a lot, like it a lot. Thanks me, 1:16:22.360 --> 1:16:26.479 thank you, sir. You know, Jason called me before he 1:16:26.640 --> 1:16:28.439 makes asks. It was like, what you want the basis 1:16:28.479 --> 1:16:29.800 sound like? I was like, I want to sound like 1:16:29.800 --> 1:16:34.960 a distorted bass guitar the rumble on that motherfucker that 1:16:35.040 --> 1:16:39.840 he put on that bitch so um so. Yeah, we 1:16:39.920 --> 1:16:43.320 started a conda off with that Maana. So that's how 1:16:43.360 --> 1:16:46.360 he even got the name. It wasn't called anaconda, it 1:16:46.479 --> 1:16:49.000 was called an kind of after you know what I'm saying. 1:16:49.160 --> 1:16:53.960 The intro happened, and I just remember that song like 1:16:56.080 --> 1:16:59.400 going to the Moon, like that was the most intentional 1:16:59.560 --> 1:17:04.320 hit that I had had where it was just like, okay, nikky, this, 1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:07.120 I know that I'm recognizing in the times that this 1:17:07.240 --> 1:17:08.559 is about to be a lot of things are going 1:17:08.600 --> 1:17:11.719 to be different after this. Brian had another proud moment 1:17:11.840 --> 1:17:18.759 for you. We're in Seattle, Jamal Crawford's wedding tanks performing 1:17:19.920 --> 1:17:22.920 and who's there? Who else is going to perform? Seattle's 1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:28.680 own Sir mix a lot? And I'm like, Yo, my guys, right, 1:17:29.200 --> 1:17:32.320 my guys did that? Man? He got a lot and 1:17:32.400 --> 1:17:36.960 I had it for that m he took a lot 1:17:37.000 --> 1:17:40.280 of that pub you start the song off with it, 1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:44.720 you mean you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but no. 1:17:44.840 --> 1:17:46.439 It was a really proud moment being able to just 1:17:46.560 --> 1:17:49.040 be like, man, miss my guys, that did that right, 1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:51.360 and he he was like, man that I love it. Man. 1:17:51.880 --> 1:17:54.800 I was a moment. Then next year we're nominated for 1:17:55.680 --> 1:17:59.200 the Rap Song of the Year, bro, and you know, 1:18:00.280 --> 1:18:02.240 to me, that's the coolest award and the rap song 1:18:02.320 --> 1:18:06.800 of the year like ship Man. And I remember being 1:18:06.920 --> 1:18:09.519 so hype and then like lying to myself saying, I 1:18:09.560 --> 1:18:11.840 don't care about if we winner lose. I'm already a winner. 1:18:12.240 --> 1:18:14.200 And then we lost. I wouldn't do a deep depression 1:18:14.240 --> 1:18:21.760 to move back. We lost, I funked up the bag, 1:18:22.479 --> 1:18:24.360 then went back to my auntie house. I just see 1:18:24.400 --> 1:18:27.519 myself right now in the backyard. I'm in the backyard 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:30.920 crame because I know that as many times as people 1:18:30.960 --> 1:18:33.000 have been like, your mother must be so proud, in 1:18:33.200 --> 1:18:38.040 that moment, she was not proud the bag. I was 1:18:38.080 --> 1:18:42.000 out here whiling, having way too much fun, indulging in 1:18:42.160 --> 1:18:44.720 things that don't happen in my local neighborhood where I'm from, 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:48.240 and the Hollywood sauce had gotten to my bloodstream. But 1:18:48.360 --> 1:18:52.280 I needed a real time out. You put yourself on 1:18:52.400 --> 1:18:57.360 time No, I fought it, but when you definitely the 1:18:57.400 --> 1:19:00.240 rent I'm asking, I'm just asking a few work. I 1:19:00.280 --> 1:19:03.840 wasn't strong enough. Now, how did time out happen for you? 1:19:03.880 --> 1:19:05.320 Because I can tell your time out happened for me. 1:19:05.720 --> 1:19:11.400 Family members flew in town two just paid to put 1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:15.479 my whole house and storage and they were just like, 1:19:16.360 --> 1:19:19.800 come on, come on, buddy, for intervention, come on and look. 1:19:19.880 --> 1:19:24.200 It was wild because what I didn't realize was people 1:19:24.240 --> 1:19:28.960 didn't understand what I was going through. But I was 1:19:29.040 --> 1:19:32.840 having a moment of not really all the way dealing 1:19:32.880 --> 1:19:36.560 with moms. In the midst of all of this, I 1:19:36.640 --> 1:19:39.280 had an artist that I got a pub deal at 1:19:39.360 --> 1:19:42.240 Universal and was about to do his artists deal at Colombia. 1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:45.640 They had just signed Adele, and Columbia was like, this 1:19:45.720 --> 1:19:48.360 is our mail Adele. And then he passed away a 1:19:48.400 --> 1:19:50.880 testicular cancer. A brother by the name of Aaron Michael Cox. 1:19:50.960 --> 1:19:56.599 He was twenty two years old, extremely talented, extremely talented, 1:19:56.760 --> 1:19:59.200 and it just it shook my world, you know what 1:19:59.280 --> 1:20:01.599 I'm saying, Like it literally shook two blocks away from 1:20:03.200 --> 1:20:08.120 like the studio. I'm like, wait what And and then 1:20:08.960 --> 1:20:11.720 my son's mother and I, you know, we are broke up, 1:20:11.800 --> 1:20:14.880 was like official. Our breakup was official. So I just 1:20:15.000 --> 1:20:17.840 was in. I was in Shamble's brother. I was not 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:21.760 doing the self work, you know what I'm saying. And 1:20:24.320 --> 1:20:28.800 I remember going home and I remember my family just 1:20:28.880 --> 1:20:33.960 being so confused, like and I remember my cousin the 1:20:34.040 --> 1:20:35.880 older sisters, and my cousin Jazz, that's the one that 1:20:35.960 --> 1:20:41.000 seen me playing basketball. But her older sister drove me 1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:46.560 to a rehab center and I was just like so 1:20:46.880 --> 1:20:48.880 taken back, like wait, this is what y'all think I 1:20:49.040 --> 1:20:51.800 need if you don't get me out of here, you 1:20:51.840 --> 1:20:54.000 know what I'm saying, Like, And then I realized, like 1:20:54.479 --> 1:20:58.400 that was how I realized that the energy were Damn, 1:20:58.520 --> 1:21:01.760 this is motherfucker's think I'm full on strong outbout this 1:21:01.880 --> 1:21:07.280 bit like oh ship. And I remember being home and 1:21:07.439 --> 1:21:11.040 feeling so low, but the love that I was getting 1:21:11.080 --> 1:21:14.640 at the crib was so rejuvenating but confusing at the 1:21:14.720 --> 1:21:17.840 same time. So I could think of his one brother. 1:21:18.680 --> 1:21:21.400 I used to be on the corner man, my next 1:21:21.439 --> 1:21:26.000 door neighbor. His name is Toriano, and I remember growing 1:21:26.080 --> 1:21:28.400 up for my mom everybody to be like, you stay 1:21:28.439 --> 1:21:31.240 away from Toriano. You know you yang banging and I 1:21:31.280 --> 1:21:32.599 don't want to see you on the corner with him. 1:21:33.720 --> 1:21:37.160 And now with all the decorations, for the first time 1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:41.120 in my life, I'm in Maywood on the corner with 1:21:41.240 --> 1:21:46.639 Toriana hit the weed. I'm telling him about got there, Micki, 1:21:46.680 --> 1:21:55.160 minajs Rihanna, And he telling me, Bro, when I was 1:21:55.280 --> 1:21:57.920 locked up and you was doing your thing, do you 1:21:57.960 --> 1:22:00.040 know they didn't believe that I knew you, man, And 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:01.800 I'm telling them, that's a little bro right there. Man, 1:22:01.800 --> 1:22:03.559 I'm telling him, I'm like, man, y'all better get out 1:22:03.560 --> 1:22:05.800 of here, and that's a little bro. And it was 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:09.640 just like, damn, they told me to stay away from 1:22:09.680 --> 1:22:11.280 me my whole life and here I am with you, 1:22:12.200 --> 1:22:14.479 and this is the love that you. I didn't I didn't, 1:22:14.640 --> 1:22:15.920 I didn't know. I didn't even know. You know what 1:22:15.920 --> 1:22:17.559 I'm saying. He had been locked up while the room 1:22:17.680 --> 1:22:20.800 was happening, you know what I'm saying. But the rejuven 1:22:20.880 --> 1:22:27.000 nation of Chicago love bro got me together that because 1:22:27.000 --> 1:22:30.040 I turned effected to come from too. Were you live? 1:22:30.240 --> 1:22:33.920 This guy, you know, in the sense off limits of 1:22:34.439 --> 1:22:36.680 your entire life for the streets is watching as they say, 1:22:37.080 --> 1:22:39.760 absolutely they are. And I'm sing there, I'm grown that 1:22:40.280 --> 1:22:41.960 you know it can't Nobody telling me I can't and 1:22:42.040 --> 1:22:44.360 now and I got the weed now And then he 1:22:44.479 --> 1:22:47.280 goes still down. So I'm and my cousin was there, 1:22:47.320 --> 1:22:48.880 and my cousin used to be cool. So we were 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:51.640 on the corner. Bro, I'm on the corner in May, 1:22:51.760 --> 1:22:56.679 I'm on the corner. I know, on the coner because 1:22:56.720 --> 1:22:58.360 me and this fool used to be on the phone. Well, 1:22:58.400 --> 1:23:00.600 I mean you the reason why I ain't back, you 1:23:00.680 --> 1:23:02.680 know what I'm saying. Like it was about it was 1:23:02.680 --> 1:23:05.639 about a good nine month time out and I remember 1:23:05.880 --> 1:23:08.960 Jay hit me like, man, what's something checking in? And 1:23:09.040 --> 1:23:13.479 I remember trying to tell him that everything was amazing. 1:23:13.479 --> 1:23:16.519 I was trying to paint Chicago to be the greatest 1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:19.400 thing that ever happened. Yeah, you know, I'm downtown with 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:22.680 the sole Who membership at Columbia and you know they 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:25.040 won't be doing tear talk man. You know I bed. 1:23:25.880 --> 1:23:29.280 He was like, hop's time to come back. What you 1:23:29.400 --> 1:23:31.559 what you doing? Bro? Come back to l A. Man, 1:23:32.080 --> 1:23:35.240 what are you doing? I was like, I'm coming. I 1:23:35.360 --> 1:23:38.400 was saying, came back. It's a little deeper than that. 1:23:40.000 --> 1:23:49.360 But I leave out because because our podcast is very real, 1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:54.920 and our podcast is cautionary at times, and you know 1:23:55.160 --> 1:23:57.960 in the information that we give and how we give it, 1:23:59.040 --> 1:24:01.559 and you know you're my brother. I lave you to death. 1:24:02.880 --> 1:24:05.960 I called you a loser ship. I left that part out, 1:24:07.280 --> 1:24:11.880 but I had to. Yeah, I had to because you 1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:16.519 had got into big fish in a small pond mode. 1:24:17.880 --> 1:24:21.400 You went home with all your accolades, and he was 1:24:21.479 --> 1:24:24.280 flossing into everybody on the corner and everybody at the 1:24:24.360 --> 1:24:27.560 Soho House of Chicago about what you had done in 1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:29.920 l A and how you you were in my I 1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:32.160 this is my opinion of me. Looking at it, I'm like, oh, 1:24:32.280 --> 1:24:34.479 he didn't win back home and not told him why 1:24:34.560 --> 1:24:37.040 he at home. He didn't went back home and say, 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:39.920 you listen, the projectal Son is back and I'm cracking 1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:43.320 and black when I definitely didn't tell people why he 1:24:43.439 --> 1:24:46.040 was back right now, which I get it, I get it. 1:24:46.479 --> 1:24:49.960 But the people who know and the people who are 1:24:50.080 --> 1:24:53.160 there for those moments when two is getting your place 1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:55.479 packed up and your family is trying to have an intervention, 1:24:55.520 --> 1:24:57.960 and like, I was literally a part of all of 1:24:58.040 --> 1:25:02.040 that for you, and and so when you've given me 1:25:02.200 --> 1:25:06.280 the gloss over story about what was happening out there, 1:25:06.560 --> 1:25:10.320 and and I'm like, nah, nigga, you're You're a loser. 1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:15.880 You quit. Quit, you quit, because there's a thing like 1:25:15.960 --> 1:25:17.920 I respect the guys who do it what they're from. 1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:21.000 I respect y'all. If you can, if you can, if 1:25:21.040 --> 1:25:23.960 you can accomplish the great things that you can accomplish 1:25:24.000 --> 1:25:27.920 in major cities like New York and Los Angeles when 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:31.360 it comes to music business in Atlanta now obviously, um, 1:25:31.520 --> 1:25:35.680 if you can accomplish those things and smaller cities and 1:25:35.920 --> 1:25:39.680 in places that the music isn't um put on a 1:25:39.840 --> 1:25:43.000 on a major scale every single day. Even though Chicago 1:25:43.080 --> 1:25:45.559 has amazing talent, has amazing people that have come out 1:25:45.600 --> 1:25:49.040 of Chicago and are still in Chicago. But for someone 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:53.439 who had went and came to Los Angeles and made 1:25:53.479 --> 1:25:58.559 it for themselves to go back home and not on something. 1:25:58.560 --> 1:26:01.559 I'm just going back home, and I'm I'm cracking. I'm 1:26:01.600 --> 1:26:05.000 going back home because I got to. I'm like, na, bro, 1:26:05.120 --> 1:26:08.200 you can't. You can't let them push you out. Now. 1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:10.800 If you're gonna go back on your own and you're 1:26:10.840 --> 1:26:13.200 gonna open up a school of music and you got 1:26:13.320 --> 1:26:15.679 a label going and you got you signed an artist, 1:26:16.160 --> 1:26:20.000 salute to you. But if you're going home right because 1:26:20.000 --> 1:26:27.439 they took your basketball with your pockets, who you've lost? 1:26:28.520 --> 1:26:32.439 And I hated having to have that conversation with you, 1:26:33.080 --> 1:26:35.120 but I knew I couldn't get off the phone with 1:26:35.280 --> 1:26:38.960 you that way. I knew I couldn't get off the 1:26:39.000 --> 1:26:44.080 phone with you that way, and I had to, at 1:26:44.479 --> 1:26:47.040 the very least at least tell you how I felt. 1:26:49.280 --> 1:27:01.280 I had to offend you as you as you as 1:27:01.280 --> 1:27:02.759 you know how we do an R and by fashion, 1:27:03.120 --> 1:27:04.679 we have to get into your R and B mind. 1:27:05.600 --> 1:27:08.320 You know you spoke a lot of musicianship and a 1:27:08.400 --> 1:27:12.120 lot of creative genius um that is in you. You 1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:15.880 know it's in your blood. Um, I need to know 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:23.400 your top five R and B artists, any era, of 1:27:23.479 --> 1:27:32.719 all time, of all times. Michael Jackson, m Stevie, wonder Ship. 1:27:35.400 --> 1:27:37.519 I'll be scared of the three. I don't be scared 1:27:37.520 --> 1:27:42.920 of the three. Let's do it, Just do it, do it. 1:27:44.960 --> 1:27:52.160 R Kelly Chaos. Uh, that's just as Chicago is just 1:27:52.240 --> 1:27:54.920 so unfortunate. And that's a whole another you don't even 1:27:54.960 --> 1:27:59.920 have to explain. Um, and ya got me on the spot, 1:28:00.560 --> 1:28:09.280 like Stevie, roh, this is gonna be a curveball. I 1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:11.000 might lose a lot of people here, but I gotta 1:28:11.040 --> 1:28:16.559 just beat music. Sold job Bronna lose nobody, no one 1:28:16.720 --> 1:28:20.679 that you didn't lose nobody in this room, cold bloody. 1:28:21.880 --> 1:28:24.120 And I'm putting my brother to Tank number five. Let's go, 1:28:24.240 --> 1:28:27.479 come on, come on, if it was a fifth, we 1:28:27.600 --> 1:28:32.760 all beat close it down with my motherfucking brother, motherfucking right. 1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:37.880 Let me tell you, Let me tell you that I 1:28:38.040 --> 1:28:45.600 can't explain to you the like the the shock that 1:28:45.760 --> 1:28:49.200 I feel with people when they're like thinking, you know 1:28:49.439 --> 1:28:53.160 Tank in real life, that's a thing that's a thing 1:28:53.360 --> 1:28:57.520 all in together in itself and that love and respect 1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:01.400 that you have the true fans of R and B. 1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:06.439 Bro blesses me, bro that blesses me dog. And it doesn't. 1:29:07.160 --> 1:29:09.880 It doesn't allow me to take this for granted. You 1:29:09.920 --> 1:29:16.240 know what I'm saying for real, Appreciate, appreciate Top five 1:29:17.479 --> 1:29:22.920 R and B songs, all time songs. Now Donald Jones 1:29:22.960 --> 1:29:27.080 where I want to be? Kick it off? Kick it off? 1:29:28.640 --> 1:29:33.680 He left his bag? Oh my god. Tough message. You 1:29:33.680 --> 1:29:37.840 don't have to message. This is a curveball, but I 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:41.200 gotta put it in here. Um when we're deep in 1:29:41.240 --> 1:29:47.200 the crevices. This is um music, soul child, previous cats, right. 1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:49.639 I know that's like a way what are you talking about? 1:29:49.680 --> 1:29:54.799 But it's a good orientation song for relationships and reminding 1:29:54.880 --> 1:29:58.040 people to love like you've never been hurt because people 1:29:58.080 --> 1:30:01.040 bring a lot of baggage in the relationship music. So 1:30:01.240 --> 1:30:03.760 chat on that song. First things, First, girl recognized who 1:30:03.840 --> 1:30:06.160 is with you now? Second thing, you can't blame me 1:30:06.240 --> 1:30:09.840 for how you were treated before I came, So it 1:30:10.000 --> 1:30:14.639 really pushes towards that song was musically yeah, previous can't 1:30:14.720 --> 1:30:19.479 love like you've never been heard UM songs and I'm 1:30:19.520 --> 1:30:24.160 not I'm not gonna overthink. I'm gonna go Dave Hollister. 1:30:25.040 --> 1:30:28.760 Seeing you reminds me of Wow, all the nights that 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:36.640 you still beating it up, man, get it. Yeah, come on, 1:30:36.760 --> 1:30:39.280 then I'm gonna go to my O. G. C. T. 1:30:40.439 --> 1:30:45.599 Carl Thomas. You have me on some Mike right now. 1:30:46.720 --> 1:30:48.600 Shout out to the guy, the guy, and let me 1:30:48.600 --> 1:30:50.599 tell you about my God. To tell you about Mike Cities. 1:30:50.920 --> 1:30:53.160 Because when I was a when I was in college 1:30:53.200 --> 1:30:55.719 at Columbia, they sent me out here for six weeks 1:30:55.760 --> 1:30:59.320 in two thousand and five, four the semester in l 1:30:59.360 --> 1:31:02.720 a program and one of my big homies out here. 1:31:02.960 --> 1:31:04.120 It's like, y'all want to take you this show. I 1:31:04.120 --> 1:31:06.320 want you want, I want you to introduce you to somebody. 1:31:06.439 --> 1:31:09.280 It was damn there and make a wish kid. He 1:31:09.439 --> 1:31:12.559 got a lot of moments, bro, They snuck him into 1:31:12.600 --> 1:31:19.519 the program. He was supposed to being like man a 1:31:19.560 --> 1:31:22.400 while too. It's got a while too, b because that 1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:26.880 the same teach you that hired me the project, the 1:31:27.000 --> 1:31:29.840 same teach that high I definitely get fired. But when 1:31:29.880 --> 1:31:33.240 I first got there, he was so mean. Bro. This 1:31:33.400 --> 1:31:35.360 man said, I don't know why they do this to me. 1:31:35.479 --> 1:31:38.200 Every semester and put a hunted students in this class. 1:31:38.200 --> 1:31:41.840 When I'm gonna fail eighty of you, and if I'm lucky, 1:31:43.080 --> 1:31:45.760 two years from now, I'll be able to send one 1:31:45.840 --> 1:31:47.840 of you to l A to represent the school. But 1:31:47.880 --> 1:31:50.280 what I won't do is let anybody in here embarrass 1:31:50.320 --> 1:31:52.920 the school. Two years later, I was the one Wow. 1:31:53.200 --> 1:31:55.000 And so when I came out here and make a 1:31:55.040 --> 1:31:59.800 Wish Coast Wow. When I came out here, they took 1:31:59.880 --> 1:32:04.360 me a Mike City studio and this is when Jojo died. 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:11.120 Jojo was going and so I remember Mike planning about 1:32:12.640 --> 1:32:15.639 five records in in a row that made me want 1:32:15.680 --> 1:32:20.479 to stop producing. So I was like, oh never, Bean 1:32:20.520 --> 1:32:26.680 looks good. Yeah, and looked. Then he played one that 1:32:26.840 --> 1:32:29.759 was like kind of I and it was so encouraging. 1:32:35.720 --> 1:32:39.560 You know what, everyone makes mistakes? How to do that? 1:32:40.000 --> 1:32:42.639 I was like, I got I gotta be second dude. Wait, 1:32:42.720 --> 1:32:46.720 so you're not perfect, so it's possible and it you 1:32:46.760 --> 1:32:48.400 know what I'm saying, let me know, like the law 1:32:48.479 --> 1:32:51.240 averages how to go. So anyway, so yeah, shout to 1:32:51.320 --> 1:32:54.439 Mike City for real, for real? Four now, one more, 1:32:54.600 --> 1:33:02.200 one more r and b mm hmm mmmm uh let's 1:33:02.200 --> 1:33:04.679 suppose some to Joe to see in there. Take my money, 1:33:07.080 --> 1:33:18.160 my house, not card for you. You can't have it all, babe, 1:33:19.960 --> 1:33:29.880 because make it. Tell me, dude, this girl is worsting 1:33:30.040 --> 1:33:36.920 toru what because I'm an addict WU and you know 1:33:37.640 --> 1:33:50.360 that I can't leave you on you got me? Man? 1:33:50.880 --> 1:33:59.320 My god? Yeah him him, my god, sex him. Okay, Okay, 1:33:59.320 --> 1:34:03.080 I'm gonna do that's great. That was really good with 1:34:03.240 --> 1:34:17.680 that one. Yeah. Yeah, oh my god. Who bro he 1:34:17.840 --> 1:34:23.640 was a master. He was a master master producer. That's 1:34:23.680 --> 1:34:26.240 why I start calling myself coach like he's my hero. 1:34:26.439 --> 1:34:31.679 He's a man. He was a master for producer. Okay, 1:34:32.560 --> 1:34:35.320 we're making a voltron, making an R and B votron 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:42.519 vocals style, performance, style and passion. Who you getting the 1:34:42.600 --> 1:34:51.200 vocals from Mike Michael Jackson? And if Mike wasn't available 1:34:51.240 --> 1:34:55.120 in Whitney, m you can't do that. But that's fine. 1:34:55.200 --> 1:35:01.479 I'll let you do that. It's fine. Um style what 1:35:01.600 --> 1:35:04.560 you want your artists to drip? Like? Who like a 1:35:04.600 --> 1:35:09.400 fashion stamp? Yeah for sure? Yeah, what's the aesthetic? Throw 1:35:09.479 --> 1:35:12.360 it on? Come on, man, Wh're gonna put it on April? 1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:16.920 May you know what I mean? You know, you know 1:35:17.640 --> 1:35:23.519 who's gonna put yeah, but who's so what are you 1:35:23.600 --> 1:35:28.160 looking for? An artist? Artist? That's a style that you artists. 1:35:28.240 --> 1:35:30.960 We shot out some stylis and you know who behind 1:35:31.040 --> 1:35:33.960 the drip, but who's gonna put it on them? It's 1:35:34.160 --> 1:35:35.600 I don't know if this is gonna work, but I 1:35:35.680 --> 1:35:41.000 gotta throw it out there. Rick James, Oh, absolutely work. 1:35:41.160 --> 1:35:44.360 You mean I tried to dress like Rick James wants 1:35:44.680 --> 1:35:46.640 you gotta be Rick James, addressed like Brick James. This. 1:35:47.280 --> 1:35:50.280 He was hurting for like a week, hurt he performed 1:35:50.360 --> 1:35:54.360 what what show was that? What's that show called? He 1:35:54.520 --> 1:35:56.720 perform this? Rick James? No, no, no, The brother was 1:35:56.800 --> 1:35:59.759 hurt for like at least a couple of days performing 1:36:00.000 --> 1:36:01.840 eels bro in the boot, in the in the high 1:36:01.880 --> 1:36:06.559 boot tights, the whole nine. And it was only Rick 1:36:06.720 --> 1:36:11.559 can do Rick? All right, you realize that's rock star ship. Yeah? OK, 1:36:11.760 --> 1:36:16.680 I like that, Mike, Rick James, Jesus Christ. I see 1:36:16.680 --> 1:36:21.720 where you're going. Not in the ro who you want 1:36:21.760 --> 1:36:25.479 to get like on stage? Who do you want to 1:36:25.520 --> 1:36:32.240 take that front? Performance style? Style? Performance style. The quick answer, 1:36:32.479 --> 1:36:35.040 quick and dirty is going back to Mike again, because 1:36:35.680 --> 1:36:39.320 from a performing standpoint. Yeah, but for the sake of 1:36:39.439 --> 1:36:44.920 this and moving around Chris Brown voice like Michael Jackson, 1:36:45.960 --> 1:36:50.160 close like Rick James perform like Chris Brown. That's all 1:36:50.200 --> 1:36:56.560 over the place, because Yeah, I love it, backflip in 1:36:56.600 --> 1:37:00.439 the bus with no problem with and with whose passion? Yeah, 1:37:00.640 --> 1:37:06.000 who's passion? Whose hard passion? James Brown? Hey, this is 1:37:06.080 --> 1:37:10.639 a killer James Brown. This is a killer is well 1:37:12.479 --> 1:37:16.599 huh you know, yeah, all of that. I need that stink. 1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:22.160 I need that holland ugly. I need to yeah him 1:37:22.240 --> 1:37:24.880 as a music director, because that's like damn in my 1:37:25.000 --> 1:37:28.000 new twists, right, like bringing my musicians in and really 1:37:28.040 --> 1:37:30.280 getting into the live show. I feel like, you know, 1:37:30.360 --> 1:37:31.960 being in the studio all this time, never being on 1:37:32.120 --> 1:37:34.120 tour and never really getting a chance to like really 1:37:34.200 --> 1:37:37.559 just share and get my musician bag. I'm studying James. 1:37:37.560 --> 1:37:39.880 I'm about to do a whole case study on James 1:37:39.960 --> 1:37:42.599 Brown and that performance in the band and the hits 1:37:42.880 --> 1:37:46.599 and that musicality. I need that. He was the only one. 1:37:47.280 --> 1:37:51.200 I need that. James was one of one, even musically, 1:37:51.400 --> 1:37:56.920 he was one of one. Nobody's ever even thought to that, 1:37:57.080 --> 1:38:00.280 Yeah he thought about it. You gotta leave all of 1:38:00.400 --> 1:38:03.960 that alone. This man woke up one day and said 1:38:04.080 --> 1:38:11.280 saying loud, I'm blocking, I'm proud like music. That the 1:38:11.400 --> 1:38:13.920 thing about this music is just gonna outlive us. Bro, 1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:21.120 that's the part that's gonna outlive us. So the responsibility 1:38:21.280 --> 1:38:23.479 that we have to do what we need to do 1:38:23.680 --> 1:38:26.840 during this very short period that we have this opportunity 1:38:27.240 --> 1:38:31.120 to go ahead and and and tap into what legacy 1:38:31.240 --> 1:38:33.960 is gonna look like for our family tree, Bro, talk 1:38:34.000 --> 1:38:41.600 about it. It's a huge, huge responsibility. Bro, sot have 1:38:41.640 --> 1:38:46.120 a little balance, you know. But that's I'm glad you 1:38:46.160 --> 1:38:49.559 said that. Though I'm glad you said that, I'm super 1:38:49.600 --> 1:38:58.160 glad you stop, because Yo, it's so funny. We had 1:38:58.200 --> 1:39:03.599 the show last week. We had a show this week 1:39:03.720 --> 1:39:07.320 last week, and I prayed before the show, and when 1:39:07.360 --> 1:39:09.679 I was done praying with the musicians before the show, 1:39:12.439 --> 1:39:16.240 feel smarter. As said, So you said you want people 1:39:16.280 --> 1:39:18.760 to see and feel God after we play ass ass 1:39:18.800 --> 1:39:20.760 ass And just like he mumbled back, because he was 1:39:20.840 --> 1:39:24.840 like walking to the keyboard, I was like, come on, 1:39:25.320 --> 1:39:31.080 come on, but but you're right. Look. I put out 1:39:31.120 --> 1:39:34.760 my my debut EP as an artist last year called 1:39:34.760 --> 1:39:40.719 Truth Serum and Hello World, Hello, world. But look King's 1:39:40.840 --> 1:39:45.000 right featuring Interest Elbow. And when I when I was 1:39:45.360 --> 1:39:50.080 approaching the artist album, I was thinking about Assid Kakekake 1:39:50.160 --> 1:39:53.760 Cake and one Time for the Birthday Bitch and Little 1:39:53.760 --> 1:39:56.880 Booties Matter and all the whole ratchet department. You actually 1:39:56.920 --> 1:40:01.320 have records that are going to play forever, forever, One 1:40:01.360 --> 1:40:05.080 time for the birthday and time for it dud Trap 1:40:05.160 --> 1:40:10.519 back dude, Monster Production, And let me tell you something. 1:40:11.600 --> 1:40:14.680 That song was done. Trap came to the studio and 1:40:14.800 --> 1:40:16.320 was like, yeah, I got this song I did with 1:40:16.439 --> 1:40:19.200 my homie. It's just could you could you put the 1:40:19.280 --> 1:40:22.400 beat on steroids? Did you put the beat on steroids 1:40:22.439 --> 1:40:24.680 for me? And he played the song for me and 1:40:24.760 --> 1:40:27.599 I was like this, I did the same thing when 1:40:27.600 --> 1:40:29.920 you played it for me. I was like, man, what man? 1:40:30.120 --> 1:40:33.559 That man? It's your birthday again? One time to play 1:40:33.640 --> 1:40:36.880 a birthday every single day, because two times for the 1:40:36.960 --> 1:40:39.679 birthday didn't fuck it up. If it's your birthday, bitch, 1:40:40.640 --> 1:40:41.920 I said, bro, do you have to file for that? 1:40:46.479 --> 1:40:51.120 I could not work on that track fast enough. And 1:40:51.200 --> 1:40:55.160 that man brought his first platinum record to Jacksonville. Man 1:40:55.200 --> 1:40:59.160 shout out to track backum man, that's just person Platinum. 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:02.519 I know you've done enough good in these streets. Man, 1:41:02.560 --> 1:41:04.080 It's it's gonna be all right. It's gonna be all right. 1:41:04.080 --> 1:41:06.000 It's gonna gonna be all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:41:06.240 --> 1:41:09.360 Your balance is good. But while we're you know, we're 1:41:09.400 --> 1:41:11.000 here and we're talking about the goods you've done in 1:41:11.000 --> 1:41:15.040 the streets, we also have this important segment of the show. 1:41:15.680 --> 1:41:18.040 It's very important. It's card I ain't saying on names. 1:41:19.160 --> 1:41:20.880 And for the people who have just tuned in for 1:41:20.920 --> 1:41:24.680 the first time, it's a story that you tell us 1:41:24.880 --> 1:41:28.400 that gonna be either funny, are fucked up. Are funny 1:41:28.479 --> 1:41:31.200 and fucked up. The only rule to the game is 1:41:31.439 --> 1:41:35.200 you can't say no names. Cool cool, This is co signs. 1:41:35.360 --> 1:41:37.880 I ain't saying on name. I ain't saying names. Um, 1:41:39.600 --> 1:41:44.280 back to the state where you are, moment um. You're 1:41:44.280 --> 1:41:50.680 gonna put us in it where you are. So I 1:41:50.920 --> 1:41:55.760 wrote and produced that record, but the inspiration behind that 1:41:55.920 --> 1:42:00.240 record was me being in the studio, how having a 1:42:00.280 --> 1:42:06.280 TV on and seeing a young tender. You know what 1:42:06.320 --> 1:42:10.760 I'm saying that I used to I used to see, 1:42:10.800 --> 1:42:13.040 we used to, we used to date. Now she's on 1:42:13.200 --> 1:42:16.479 Jimmy Fallon and the first thing that I wanted to 1:42:16.560 --> 1:42:22.679 do what's called her because she was with the fake congratulations, yeah, 1:42:22.680 --> 1:42:26.200 because you live on another level. I was just I 1:42:26.360 --> 1:42:28.120 was just you know, I just wanted to make sure 1:42:28.160 --> 1:42:33.240 you knew. I always knew you was gonna make Jimmy fay. 1:42:33.840 --> 1:42:36.519 And she used to smoke weed before I started smoking weed, 1:42:36.520 --> 1:42:41.560 So I want to tell her, and you know, so 1:42:41.720 --> 1:42:45.439 if I beat the allergy, so so if you want 1:42:45.439 --> 1:42:49.160 to smoke together, you know, I'm here and I'm going 1:42:49.240 --> 1:42:54.280 through all these emotions looking at her her glory, and 1:42:54.400 --> 1:42:58.599 I said, nope, you know what, turning over a new leaf. 1:43:00.080 --> 1:43:02.920 Stay where you are. And that's where that line just 1:43:03.040 --> 1:43:06.559 keeps shining in my face, Like coach, it's certain. There's 1:43:06.600 --> 1:43:09.360 certain moments that ain't no going back. It was a 1:43:09.439 --> 1:43:13.799 moment in time I see shining baby, drive me crazy, 1:43:14.040 --> 1:43:19.120 and it's but just keep shining baby, riding up on 1:43:19.240 --> 1:43:25.719 some real player. I kept it. That was not pushing sand, 1:43:26.880 --> 1:43:36.840 you push pushing. That's a great collaborative, you know what. 1:43:37.040 --> 1:43:39.240 To a lot of the fellas out there, that's some 1:43:39.320 --> 1:43:42.920 real grown man ship. You missed your beat, Yeah, you 1:43:43.040 --> 1:43:47.400 just missed it. And after you stopped fucking with her. 1:43:48.120 --> 1:43:51.200 She was able to. She glowed up. She glowed up. 1:43:51.240 --> 1:43:54.040 She's to find it. Then you have to respect that 1:43:54.760 --> 1:43:58.400 from afar because if you get too close, it might 1:43:58.479 --> 1:44:01.599 do something to you too, especially if I'm a new nigger. 1:44:01.880 --> 1:44:08.560 You bet not you know what bad not pushing. This 1:44:08.680 --> 1:44:12.960 is part two of not saying no names. Right. So, uh, 1:44:13.320 --> 1:44:15.479 there was a situation where I did get too close. 1:44:16.840 --> 1:44:21.760 Of course you did. There's another situation. Another young lady 1:44:22.640 --> 1:44:25.080 was now because my sister said that ship. She was like, 1:44:25.160 --> 1:44:28.960 it's crazy. It just seemed like all women just glow 1:44:29.080 --> 1:44:31.200 up once they stopped working with you. I was like, 1:44:31.439 --> 1:44:32.760 you know how you you know how your sister just 1:44:33.720 --> 1:44:39.280 get that offend, hurt, hurt. I couldn't even say that back. 1:44:40.080 --> 1:44:44.600 There was no fight back from me. She laughs, crazy cursing. 1:44:44.680 --> 1:44:48.719 So anyway, I see this young lady, she's in her glow, 1:44:49.880 --> 1:44:52.559 and in my mind, I'm like, enough time has gone 1:44:52.680 --> 1:44:58.920 past to where you know what I'm saying. And look, 1:44:58.960 --> 1:45:01.240 And it wasn't even like I was trying to leave 1:45:01.280 --> 1:45:03.280 her alone, coach. I just was gonna give her hug 1:45:03.360 --> 1:45:08.160 and say congratulations. She pushed me because she punched you. 1:45:08.280 --> 1:45:10.759 She pushed me. She pushed you at the Awards series. 1:45:11.000 --> 1:45:12.680 Are you really try to go in for a hub? 1:45:12.760 --> 1:45:14.160 You said, because you when you say it, don't go 1:45:14.280 --> 1:45:16.160 too close. I was like, oh yeah, because because I 1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:18.960 wanted to go out thinking about it. She gave you that, 1:45:19.520 --> 1:45:23.120 and and so immediately I just started scanning the room 1:45:23.120 --> 1:45:32.200 to see if anybody. So immediately it was like what 1:45:32.240 --> 1:45:38.760 I'm saying, just walking, just walk. It's not sweet. It's 1:45:38.800 --> 1:45:46.920 not sweet. And I'm still mad. Dress off. I'm saying it. 1:45:48.720 --> 1:45:54.759 Stay where you are, stays you are you are, don't pressing, coach, 1:45:55.479 --> 1:45:59.599 don't pressing, don't press in. Would she go up? Oh? Ship, 1:45:59.800 --> 1:46:02.120 if he go up? Right? It is what it is. 1:46:04.439 --> 1:46:08.519 Let it be. You understand what you're saying, because it's 1:46:08.600 --> 1:46:14.000 it's it's probably better without you. Life, it's probably better 1:46:15.080 --> 1:46:20.880 without you. Oh my god. Everybody ain't for everybody. Everybody 1:46:20.880 --> 1:46:23.639 ain't for everybody. And some relationships are just for a season. 1:46:23.920 --> 1:46:26.160 The season you get what you needed that you get, 1:46:26.200 --> 1:46:28.400 you get your harvest of that season. They get the 1:46:28.479 --> 1:46:31.519 harvest of that season. You take your you know, you 1:46:31.600 --> 1:46:33.320 take your harvest and you go with it, keep it 1:46:33.479 --> 1:46:35.680 and whoever whoever that's supposed to feed next, that's what 1:46:35.800 --> 1:46:46.160 that is. Yeah, thank me for that. Yet somewhere enjoying 1:46:46.200 --> 1:46:49.679 the goodness. Welcome. Make sure you make sure you're telling 1:46:49.760 --> 1:46:52.080 them because if you find, if you find you a 1:46:52.120 --> 1:46:53.720 good one man, they do some good things for you. 1:46:54.560 --> 1:46:57.479 Those are new things, just like whoever taught you that. 1:46:58.280 --> 1:47:03.000 Come on, thank you, Come on, come on, nan man. 1:47:03.320 --> 1:47:05.040 You ain't gotta say it out loud. Just you seem 1:47:05.080 --> 1:47:15.639 to see me in the club by this man. Because 1:47:15.640 --> 1:47:17.639 you know what, though I can say this though honestly 1:47:19.600 --> 1:47:25.599 in relationships, I can't handle the truth of your past. 1:47:26.040 --> 1:47:29.760 So what that means is, let's just say hypothetically, you know, 1:47:31.120 --> 1:47:33.960 I use use my wife as an example. Say we 1:47:34.080 --> 1:47:39.519 go to dinner somewhere and there's a guy that she 1:47:39.680 --> 1:47:42.320 used to do everything with. I want to know my 1:47:42.400 --> 1:47:45.080 mario is, let me enjoy my steak, Let me enjoy, 1:47:45.640 --> 1:47:49.800 Let me enjoy. If we're cracking jokes, let me and 1:47:49.920 --> 1:47:52.320 let me go home and sleep and let me live 1:47:52.400 --> 1:48:02.080 and die. And I don't because in past situations, think 1:48:02.120 --> 1:48:06.200 about this situation, this young lady, and I can't. I 1:48:06.240 --> 1:48:08.679 gotta be light on the details. But let's just say 1:48:09.960 --> 1:48:14.280 once we was good and and in it we had 1:48:14.320 --> 1:48:20.160 an honest conversation. We were in the park. We're in 1:48:20.240 --> 1:48:26.400 the park, and I instantly had to boo boo when 1:48:26.439 --> 1:48:35.719 I heard when she starts the truth, noticed right away 1:48:35.760 --> 1:48:37.200 I was in the park lot in this because I 1:48:37.280 --> 1:48:39.760 remember the parks of I couldn't just be like, I'm 1:48:39.800 --> 1:48:44.559 going to bathroom. I remember being outside like wait, how 1:48:45.360 --> 1:48:47.680 how old were you? And how old was he? And 1:48:47.800 --> 1:48:52.800 you did what? And you were spending and all the details, 1:48:52.920 --> 1:48:57.360 bro the details, and I can't you can't go back. 1:48:58.120 --> 1:49:01.439 So a lot of brothers, y'all, these relationships with these ladies, 1:49:02.080 --> 1:49:05.160 worrying about the wrong fucking things. You got to know. 1:49:05.280 --> 1:49:08.599 It's just your turn now telling me. So I'm gonna 1:49:09.560 --> 1:49:15.519 previous cats, pous cats. I just think that don't walk 1:49:15.640 --> 1:49:18.519 me in Nowhere Blind. I want to be blind. I 1:49:18.880 --> 1:49:23.400 want to but he with the lady. I want to, 1:49:23.760 --> 1:49:33.160 like what the movie, Don't walk Me in Nowhere black, 1:49:33.479 --> 1:49:36.880 because because the past doesn't doesn't bother me. Just don't 1:49:37.080 --> 1:49:41.559 just don't let the past be be used against me. Yeah, 1:49:42.000 --> 1:49:43.560 I'm gonna need to know why I nigger shook my 1:49:43.600 --> 1:49:47.880 hand that way? Yeah? Period? Yeah, why do you keep 1:49:47.920 --> 1:49:52.240 staying over here? That was a different kind of embrace. Yeah, 1:49:52.240 --> 1:49:56.360 don't let trouble beat you up. Yeah yeah, I don't care, 1:49:56.600 --> 1:49:59.439 but the's gonna change no dynamics. So let me get 1:49:59.560 --> 1:50:06.040 this right. No Name, Part three three, first ever on 1:50:06.160 --> 1:50:12.200 the Rybody podcast Keep going three names right Um talking 1:50:12.240 --> 1:50:17.680 to uh this young lady about a situation that had 1:50:17.760 --> 1:50:22.120 just occurred, right, and it had threw me off because 1:50:23.680 --> 1:50:27.080 the handshake, the greeting, everything she's speaking of. Because I 1:50:27.160 --> 1:50:28.960 was going to ask you for an example what you're 1:50:29.000 --> 1:50:31.320 talking about, But now I realize what the example was. 1:50:33.920 --> 1:50:38.960 So I'm telling her just like, yeah, you know, he was. 1:50:40.080 --> 1:50:42.880 He was with his homies. They was laughing, and I 1:50:43.000 --> 1:50:47.080 just didn't understand, Like that's crazy. I've been knowing him 1:50:47.120 --> 1:50:52.320 for some time. And she goes, Marco's it only happened once, 1:50:57.360 --> 1:51:00.080 And what I tell you, I'll tell you that is 1:51:00.160 --> 1:51:04.960 the farthest thing from my mind. I'm venting about my 1:51:05.240 --> 1:51:09.000 day in life. This is just my day marks It 1:51:09.080 --> 1:51:12.040 only happened once, alright in it it's not like how 1:51:12.120 --> 1:51:17.639 many you are. I was like, wait, wait, she told 1:51:17.640 --> 1:51:22.360 herself like the niggle House and Dragon she told on herself. Wait, 1:51:22.840 --> 1:51:35.600 I said, wait, you did what with hem? Yo. I 1:51:36.040 --> 1:51:49.920 was boiling. Oh yo, yo, I had to get out 1:51:49.960 --> 1:51:55.439 of here. Bro, I had to to get out of there. Man, 1:51:57.400 --> 1:52:09.320 no more, no nation. It's three and I feel like, 1:52:09.760 --> 1:52:12.680 did you keep telling these stories? I don't want you 1:52:12.760 --> 1:52:18.559 to go back down. Yo, you're traumatized. God, man, it's 1:52:18.560 --> 1:52:25.519 a great way. Oh my god, Oh my god. Bro. Listen, 1:52:25.720 --> 1:52:32.439 um ship I don't know my name at this point. 1:52:34.720 --> 1:52:39.560 Oh Ja Valentine and this and this has been the 1:52:39.680 --> 1:52:45.960 Army Money podcast. This has been interesting. Um listen, listen, 1:52:46.080 --> 1:52:55.400 man um for for lock. What is the blowback? Oh, 1:52:55.479 --> 1:52:57.519 this is gonna be People will be trying to figure 1:52:57.520 --> 1:53:01.360 out the characters. 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