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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, I am tanking, Valentine, and this is

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Speaker 1: There are very few people that are who sensitive about

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Speaker 1: It's all about choosing your friends wisely. And the divine

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Speaker 1: brotherhood council that has come from both of y'all down

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Speaker 1: through the years has been clutched, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: because historically I've been a wild cowboy, you know what

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I learned so much musicality just being there,

422
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: being in the jazz man beating a symphonic man. You

423
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Having a teacher say, yeah, you're

424
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: playing saxophone, but I wanted to to hit me like

425
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: a French horn. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So

426
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: that's a different mouthpiece as a different armiship is. It's

427
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: the real training. I'm taking class piano, taking voice, I'm

428
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: taking brass techniques. I was a music education major while

429
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: I was at FAN to force semesters of theory with

430
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: dr horn. So this is like damn the music rocket

431
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: science yea and it's the best shot ever. And after

432
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: my sophomore year, my mom gets diagnosed with cancer. After

433
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: my freshman year, my mom gets diagnosed with cancer. After

434
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: my sophomore year, my mom passed away from cancer. And

435
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: that's when I moved back to Chicago from Tallahassee. And

436
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: that was just such a crazy time because I never

437
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: really wanted to go to college like that. College wasn't

438
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: really my twist. I wanted to be a rock star,

439
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: go to the league, or definitely not school. But that

440
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: was my mom's first and last wish. She said, Marcos Monico.

441
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: My job as a parent, it's done when you graduate college, Monica.

442
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: And even though I won't be there with you in

443
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: the physical, Monica, please this on her deathbed. These are

444
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: last words. So I registered for Columbia College Chicago September nine,

445
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: and my mom passed away September ten, and I remember

446
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: reading her my schedule and that's how I know. She

447
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: was like, all right, cool, he's registered for school. He

448
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: going to school. I'm out. And three years later, I'm

449
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: in my uh my counselor's office, and I'm like, I

450
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: cannot believe I'm about to graduate. I can't believe it.

451
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: And she was like, yeah, and it's crazy with you

452
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: know this year being on Mother's Day. Wow. Three years later. Wow.

453
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: I walked out the office, walked to the President's office

454
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: for the first time in three years of being at Columbia.

455
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: See the lady there, I say, ma'am, um, hey speak

456
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: to the president. She said, the President's book through the summer.

457
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: I said, well, you're about to watch me sleep on

458
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: the floor in this office until I talk to him.

459
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: And she had a headset on hispanic lady. I remember

460
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: her taking her head set off, like, what you're not

461
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna do is sleep in the office. How can I

462
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: help you? And I told her everything and she just

463
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: so happened to be a single mother. Hispanic over still

464
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: where I was coming from, and I said, I need

465
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: to speak. I need to say something in graduation. I

466
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: know I'm not the validatorian. She cried her eyes out,

467
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: asked me to leave, made some calls to this day,

468
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm the only person to speak at Columbia College graduation

469
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: not be the validatorian. I dedicated that degree to my mama.

470
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: That was my first grammy. Come on, man, come on,

471
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: my first grammy. Oh he's still flossed into that's my

472
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: first Grammy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's not a

473
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: floss that I never want to gramm me. I got

474
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: nine nominations. Oh you think no one? Yeah, I got

475
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: nine nominations. I got nine nominations and a win people,

476
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: Jennifer Hudson one. Therefore, I want you. Did you did

477
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: R and B album up the year? Sure? We got

478
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: damn grabbed. Then I'll show you the certificate. I could

479
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: show you my driver's license to hate on it was hating.

480
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: You got to change now though, they change the rule now,

481
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: So now R and B album can get if you are,

482
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: if you're a part of it, you can. That should

483
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: be retroactive. Should that should be retroactive? Make the call,

484
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: you know I am make the call. You can go

485
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: right there next to the R and B money thing.

486
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: Until then you don't respecting that's what you're doing. Cool,

487
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: Jake bro At least you should. That's crazy. I went

488
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: through college, I graduated, I dedicated that degree with my mama.

489
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like now I'm making mix

490
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: tapes in the basement hood hood you and now you're

491
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: doing street music for paper bag money and teaching Look

492
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: and teach him to so the head of my department.

493
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: I brought him three contracts. One was to I think

494
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: red Zone read something might be like tricking them in

495
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: that line. The other one was Barry Hankerson. I forget

496
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: who the other one was, but I brought him all

497
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: three contracts. Right. I still had that basketball mentality, like

498
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: all right, tiping when you go to the NBA. And

499
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: he was like he kind of saw the thirst on

500
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: me a little bit and was like, coach, don't feel

501
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: like you gotta run to l A right away. If

502
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: you want to stay home and get your stuff together,

503
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, get your house in order, you can do that,

504
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, and and if you want, you can teach here.

505
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: I was like, teach what he said, I've never had

506
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: a student like you make up a class left out

507
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: his office because I was like, he might take that back.

508
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: He only think you know what he said, left out

509
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: the office. Took my favorite three syllabus from all five

510
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: years of college and wrote a curriculum called hip Hop

511
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: Beat Making and then Out of Tune at Columbia University

512
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: Columbia College, Chicago. So just lean away this. Jeremiah Kanye

513
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: is downtown and uh. He made a couple of edits

514
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: and they offered me another class, and you know, I

515
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: want you to teach my other class, Producing Recording Music three,

516
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna teach four. So I taught two classes

517
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: hip Hop be making and Producing Recordings three for two

518
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: years and you're what. And I remember the first day

519
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: of class. It was at the Rhythm Cafe, is a

520
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: studio in Chicago where we had the class, and they

521
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: hadn't opened it up yet. So the students are there.

522
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm there, but I'm dressed like how it was dressed

523
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: last semester. And they're like, man, where the fund the

524
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: teacher at man, how the fund this? They ain't open

525
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: up the building, blah blah blah, man this is and

526
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: they're just going crazy and I'm sitting there looking like

527
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: and then the guy comes opens the door and they

528
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: were like, oh, man, what's your name. I was like, yeah,

529
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm the teacher, and y'all cuting my class. You're gonna

530
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: get a f you know what I'm saying. And it's

531
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: and it's normally on the first day because I don't

532
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: like y'all attitude. How we walked in on their gass

533
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: and every week I used to play all the beats

534
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: I made all week and just punch them in the nose.

535
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: They'd be like, Professor, you did this this week because

536
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: I was man, I was to You're not though, It's

537
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: not like you can teach your beat this week. You

538
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: want us to wrap over this. Not only is the

539
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: Beast not weak, but I'm inviting Damn. They're all the

540
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: guests from Kanye College dropout to because it's Chicago. He

541
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: comes GLC and Loupe Fiasca comes, uh Prolific, you know,

542
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: brin Fest. I'm bringing all of the guys to my

543
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: class and we had a mixtape at the end of

544
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: the semester, like it was. Mikey Rocks from the Cool

545
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: Kids was in my first class. So to this day,

546
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: mighty be like Professor co Sign, like a lot of

547
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: people know me as professor. No, no, he was a student.

548
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: He's my first student too, Professor Professor Cosign still to

549
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: this day, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I

550
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: think that that's where I really put together that. I

551
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: think that's where I got the formula. You know what

552
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, might have been you might be our first professor. Yeah,

553
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: we've had on the show bro right right, we've had

554
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: a sir. We had to serve personal sides. I'm a

555
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: doctor Church, so a doctor of music. Oh you got

556
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: the honorary doctor doctor Church from where harvest? Harvest? Okay,

557
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: Hey Dallas, I'm sipping one more time. I'm sitting one

558
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: more time to the well schooled church. It's just us

559
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: in the streets. Now, you know what, I feel safe

560
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: around you with me. You know you've been in the

561
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: streets with me. Man, that's crazy. So you're the professor

562
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: with the fire beats, completely tapped in, completely immersed in

563
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: the Chicago culture, music culture. M hmm. What does the break?

564
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: Where does the break happen? Because from everything you've just said,

565
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: like you're ready, You're ready for the big league, You're

566
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: ready for the NBA. When does someone recognize your potential?

567
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: And I'm moderating a panel at school, right, and so

568
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: we have guest speakers that come in and talk to

569
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: the students. One of those guest speakers was a guy

570
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: by the name of c l And he had a

571
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: DJ pool called Digi Wax Wax and so on the

572
00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: panel he was talking that ship. I'm like afterward, I

573
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: went up to him, like, Yo, you were talking to

574
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: this ship man, how long are you in town? You're like,

575
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm just here for the night man, and I'm like, well,

576
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: it's cool. I want to take you to the West Side.

577
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: Give you some Uncle Remus chicken. I don't know if

578
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: you had Uncle Remus, but that mouth sauce is crazy.

579
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: I know we know him for Heralds, but as a

580
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: West Side er Uncle Remus, you know what I'm saying.

581
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: And then my studio was on Sacramento. Drove h the

582
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: Uncle Remus drove him to the studio, played them some beats.

583
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: He said, all right, cool. So on that panel, I

584
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: know I said I got DIGIAX, but I'm actually partners

585
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: with MS. And he's coming off of this is why

586
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: I'm hot Global Smash smash, and we don't need the

587
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: big producers that the labels are introducing us to. We

588
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: need just something different. I'm not looking for the name.

589
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: I just want a different sound and Yo, Ship is different.

590
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna fly you to Atlanta to work

591
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: with MS. I'm like, oh, Ship, you know what I'm saying.

592
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: So the next day my homie comes to the studio

593
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: and say, you ain't the hottest producer in Chicago. Bro,

594
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: It's another nigger. That got you, and I said the

595
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: next day, next day, one of my homies, I said,

596
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: all right, okay, we'll play me to beat that says

597
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: that he's nicer than me. He played the beat in

598
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: the light bulb went off on my head. I said, Oh,

599
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: he liked the beat because it's a hook on it,

600
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: and I don't put hooks on my beat. I just

601
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: be making. I'm a beat maker. I said, look that

602
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: beat that you love. Put that on my on my

603
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: desktop in the studio, and tomorrow'm gonna come in here

604
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: and make that beat, daddy, okay, because you got me

605
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: fucked up. Came in the next day, made the beat, daddy,

606
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: but then set a hook on there. Move if you

607
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: want to, if you want to, if you want to move, move,

608
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: if you want to, just put something there. Sent that

609
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: to At least he jumped right on it. That's my

610
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: first goal. It's my first goal record. Wow, it's my

611
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: first competitive You don't don't come in here and tell

612
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: me I'm not the nicest in are you? Yeah? Are

613
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: you stupid? He dumb? He's stupid, He dumb. I was

614
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: so offended. Took a Jordan and that netflix. I took

615
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: the fence to that. I took offense to that, say

616
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: that bro and went crazy bro. And then I ended

617
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: up executive producing the album. I didn't know that. I

618
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: like seven records on there. Wow, I'm gonna tell you

619
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: how I do. I'm another past are shout out to

620
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: LaToya Lucky. I produced a song with LaToya and M's

621
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: called Love roller Coaster. Yeah, actually you didn't. Did you

622
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: did what you didn't? I didn't because I did her vocals.

623
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: And this is how I find out who the interns are,

624
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: because listen, LaToya, I love you. She wasn't going in

625
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: the studio with some new guys. She had never heard

626
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: of it. And this is when we're doing Regret and

627
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: ye good good to me. Yeah, this is the same

628
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: exact time. She's on Capitol at the Times as well,

629
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: and I remember was it was, and I remember he

630
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: came in there and he's like, Toya, we needs you

631
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: on this man's record and blah blah blah blah, and

632
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: I need you to go in with the producers who

633
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: did it. Their name is the interns. And she's like,

634
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And I'm literally a fly on the wall,

635
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: like because we're doing we're doing her altum and she like,

636
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: I do JA do my vocals? I'm like, what, it's

637
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: not my song. I don't know that that. Yeah, you

638
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: didn't have to do it. You know tanks on tours.

639
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean tanking. We did our work

640
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: and tanks gone and I end up cutting the vocals.

641
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So that's how I who Yeah, I credit

642
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: for that. Neither. You won't give me some that's you.

643
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: She should have gave you that out of her piece.

644
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: She should have gave you some pub out of her

645
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: She should have gave your fire something. Some things we

646
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: do for the coaching man. This is how I find

647
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: out who these guys are. Many and that was enough

648
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: pipeline to um do a publishing deal with only a

649
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: TV and Vincent Herbert has signed an artist from Chicago

650
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: by the name of Fieve. Him and Barry Hankerson. And

651
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but I say Barry was like he was

652
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: the churches to come on, man, come on man, so

653
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: uh shouting, yeah, I got some man. Barry Haggison, he's

654
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: the first Ergin. I remember being in his office two

655
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: days after graduation and he said, so, I heard the

656
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: track stars wanted to sign you, but I don't understand.

657
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: Why would you want to sign to some niggas that

658
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: signed to me. Why woun't you just want to come home?

659
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: Why don't you just come home? I s all right,

660
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like wait what and no, no? This

661
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: after me him, So maybe I'm like twenty five now,

662
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: and uh I remember him playing, playing him some beats

663
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: and and some songs, and he was listening. He was like,

664
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: you're real talented, man, it's just you'll beat a little

665
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: light in the ass. And when I tell you about

666
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: one of my ribs cracked when he said, you know,

667
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: say like nothing like that. It beats a little light

668
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: in the ass. But don't worry. Don't worry. I'll get

669
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: you with him. I get you with him, man, and

670
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: then get that together. But that was the beginning of

671
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: me formulating the disrespectful away because you're not gonna tell

672
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: me my beast is light in the ass man, that

673
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: she used to haunt me. And heavy from now on,

674
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: Heavy from now on. I'm saying, yeah, you took everything personally,

675
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: it's looked like nass. He told me. I wasn't a producer.

676
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: So you're you're song right, You're you're a good songwriter.

677
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: You're an amazing vocalist, You're an amazing singer. You're a

678
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: good songwriter, but you're you're not a producer. So we're

679
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna get this. Maybe I deserve produced the right way.

680
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: I just watched you at Love Records in full tank

681
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: tanky production mode. I don't know if you realized how

682
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: much you was in your bag last week. I wasn't

683
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: even Bro, that was until you said it, and then

684
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: Stacy called me. Stacy Barth called me and was like,

685
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean like he said the same thing you said.

686
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: You were just quarterback is it's chaos. It was absolutely

687
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: you saw that there was a leader that needed to

688
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: be somebody need to lead. And how you lead that

689
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: set you got lucky day, you know what I'm saying, Camper, Camper,

690
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: Tim Kelly. It was it was a zoo in the room.

691
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: It was a zoo and I was like, Nana, I

692
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: gotta and the orchestration and then because people have so

693
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: much respect for you the way, everybody just kind of

694
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: fell in line. Bro. I just it was real general

695
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: ship though, and I grew as a producer. You hit

696
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: me the next day. I was like, uh, I agree,

697
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: I didn't because you and it your business in your

698
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: natural habits, set living life. But it's like Barry Hikerson

699
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: telling me I'm not a producer. That's crazy. I'll take

700
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: that personally. I wanted to beat Camping Yes you did,

701
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: Yes you did, and the song he told me that

702
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: wasn't good for production that production state. Yeah, and it

703
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: ended up being the song that was the foundation of

704
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: my career. Shout out listen, shout out to Bara Hankinson

705
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: for applying the pressure absolutely, applying the pressure absolutely because

706
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: if you don't have somebody, because all he's doing is

707
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: telling his truth, right, if you don't have somebody that

708
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: you know that. One of my favorite proverbs, iron Sharper

709
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: is iron. You know what I'm saying, You don't got somebody.

710
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: And that's why I feel like Jay is a cheat code.

711
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying for you, because Jake gonna

712
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: talk that ship and goddamn trying to tell you down

713
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: without I'm not without love, but the words would be like,

714
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: you gotta have tough skin, you you gotta be, you

715
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: gotta down, you gotta have tough alligator skin, you gotta

716
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: have Detroit gator skin to deal with. I love it.

717
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: I love it. It's perfect. But but I'm I'm a product.

718
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: You're a product. You're a product of tough teachings. Everything

719
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: was tough love for me. Nothing was nothing was cuddling

720
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: and coddling and and and oh this is because I

721
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: love none of that, straight up, none of it. The

722
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Interns formed in college, right, so now I'm alone, you know,

723
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: to have a three bedroom home, to bathroom, a couple

724
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: of cards. My mom really set me up while she

725
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: was here, and even after she was here, my mom

726
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: set me up, bro and I paid off the house.

727
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: I paid for my tuition, and I put a studio

728
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: in my basement, and I changed my major to music

729
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: business with a concentration and production. And in this art

730
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: of entreprene newership class, I incorporated this company, the Interns,

731
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: because I met An A and R through a guy

732
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: by the name of Kevin Sean A and R in

733
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: the city name too to to Clark and shout my

734
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: brother man, because he was the one that was like,

735
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: n we don't We're not gonna sign to Barry Hankerson.

736
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: Now that's not the that's not the play. The play

737
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: is let's build it from scratch on our own, out

738
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: the mud. I've always had an idea for the interns,

739
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: and I just thought that name was perfect, especially being

740
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: in college, like hell yeah. And so I did a

741
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: business plan on that company in college when we said

742
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: we were going to produce, manage, and market, and so

743
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: too was the manager. I was the producer. And then

744
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: we shared the marketing. We should throw parties and ship

745
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: like that. In Chicago, we shared that together and after MS,

746
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: after we moved to l A, one of your l

747
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: A parties. I left early. I got about it there.

748
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: It's a good time Chicago. Niggas wild Bro, the niggas

749
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: wild Bro. It's a good time. First days, they do

750
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: that rain dance. They do the rain dance. Chill. I

751
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: think it's called like footworking. Yes, yeah, Footwork's telling footworking

752
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: the rain dance. She is a monster because it has

753
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: a rain see and you gotta and if you really footworking,

754
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: abody has to do this to you. This is when

755
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: you go hypermode when you're dancing and your foot working too.

756
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: Ski ski and you feel somebody do this, then you

757
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: go fast, get me, you got me? Old feel that

758
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: happens if body grab your shirt in the party. Oh man,

759
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: So y'all throwing parties y'all produces, and y'all managing some

760
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: people too, too, started managing feed that the artist I

761
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: was signed the bell, you know what I mean. And

762
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: we uh, we were doing sessions out here, like as

763
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: soon as we get this sony, they just started putting

764
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: us on the blind date. Y'all living in Chicago still, No,

765
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: we moved in uh oh nine, so after Him's happened,

766
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: I see it. We got about it there, moved to

767
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: Woodland Hills. Um. I moved family and my mama's house

768
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: so that I could just come home and kind of,

769
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, go back and forth. And I remember one

770
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: of our first sessions, not our first session was with

771
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: the Jackie Boys too, yes, sir, and they was like

772
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: it was a session with us. They had to leave

773
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: early because they had to go work with Shaun Kingston

774
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: and it was burnt out there, like yo, even on

775
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: the Shaun Kinson album. I have no more ideas, Coach,

776
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: please come with us to this session. And I was like,

777
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: why y'all want me? You know what I'm saying. You

778
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: got Benny Blanco as the producer. You know what I'm saying,

779
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm a producer, and no, you're a writer, coach, and

780
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: even if you don't feel like writing, at least just

781
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: come and talk have fun. So I go there, they

782
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: pull up the song and it's like it's almost like

783
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: a look. You know, Shaun Kingston kind of had like

784
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: a little Caribbean twang too. So I'm just making making

785
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: jokes like she's indecisive, luking my eyes. Girl, come up

786
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: with the closa. I'm like just like doing wild ship,

787
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: just cracking jokes that the jokes turned into Shaun Kingston

788
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: featuring Justin Bieber, Any Meeting shot any Meani might need

789
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: more love. Yo, that's my first co wrote it with

790
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: the Jackie Boards. It's my first multi platinum plaque. Wow,

791
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: just by the homies saying come and crack jokes, come

792
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: crack jokes with us nicking. The song is called any Meeting,

793
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: So I mean, I get it, I get it. It's

794
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: I said, she's in decisive. So I remember thinking that

795
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be cool now, like on a

796
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: whole another level because I got MS, I got Justin

797
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: Bieber and a gold plack, got a platinum plaque. I

798
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: should be the nigga out here. I wasn't I know,

799
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: I've gotten you into the club. I was struggling. I'm

800
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: still struggling. Hurry up, so we're about to walk in

801
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: struggle okay, coach fixing the jacket and shirt and ship,

802
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: still trying to get across the street coast. Hurry up,

803
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get in. Get in, coach. Once we're

804
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: in it, you're done. So like, it was like trying

805
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: to get over the hump of why don't you let

806
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: me in the club? Off my face? Car? Why is

807
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 1: it not? Why is this not enough? Because A hunting

808
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: niggas with the placement. Man, it's true. So at the

809
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: time my manner, it was Troy Carter and he had

810
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: Lady gott got signed. So I'm like, all right, that's

811
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: it man, I'm gonna get on this guy album. It's

812
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: a lay up. And I started making the beats right

813
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: all right? I do. I call him glow stick music.

814
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: There you can glow stick. I started. Yeah, I started

815
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: trying to because it's like floor, Yeah, your tank sets

816
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: for on the floor because you know he's a it's

817
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: gonna step about front. When you hear that, you think

818
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: Nix is coming out of nowhere. All right, it's time

819
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: for me trying to leave me on my birthday Vegas.

820
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: After our meeting. I took him. I took him. It

821
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: was a bunch of us we went. It was we

822
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: left at his house and went to this club and

823
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: it was fall on the floor and it was jumping

824
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: because it's New Years New Year's Path, and and they're

825
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: sitting there. I'm having the time of my life. First

826
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: of I'm a little hot, and these things sitting let's

827
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: go mad, go with me, come out? Why don't your party?

828
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: And Jay, it's good. I was sitting just like this,

829
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: just listen to So I never got a really gut guy.

830
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: I never got the studio with what I'm saying. I

831
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: never even got in the studio with lady. Did you

832
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: meet her? I met her? Big all the little cool

833
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 1: that don't do speak on and So Katie Welly, Katie Welly,

834
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: Katie shout out a couple of times on this podcast

835
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: because Katie Welly is the reason why I can't let

836
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: It show. Katie has something to do with kat let

837
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: it show because of the sample sample helping us get

838
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: to Kate Bush, Katie Welly, big John, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

839
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: we wanted a mad dash Katie Wow. Katie Welly had

840
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: one of the most uncomfortable conversations of her life because

841
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: I saw her struggling trying to tell me what she

842
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: wanted to tell me. She was like, CO signed. It's

843
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: when we signed you guys. We were hoping that we

844
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: would get some of that like Chicago ghetto bounce, like

845
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: the Boom, like the aid. Like. I was like, you

846
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: want some you want the ship ship huh, you want

847
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: the boom, Katie? She couldn't. It's tough when you gotta

848
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: make white people talk like that. This is snickering, but

849
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: she was. She was trying to it's your fault. I like,

850
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: given her what she signed you for. I wasn't. I

851
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: was not. I was not. She had our logo in

852
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: her office, and I was just She mentioned us in

853
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: her thirty for thirty under Billboard. That touched me. I

854
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, we just met you. You don't had

855
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: to drop our name and Billboard. That was a big

856
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: look for us, for her to for her to drop

857
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: our drop our names in her article. And so she

858
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: was like just trying to expe ass like I want

859
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: the old you back. I don't want the Lady Gaga

860
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: chaser after broke that. Bro, that's when you can tell

861
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: the motherfucker, Like, stop chasing that lot of take it

862
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: right there, because a lot of times in this business,

863
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: we choose our business partnerships by who people work with

864
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: or for thinking they're gonna get us in those rooms

865
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: or put us in and it's like, that's not your path,

866
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: that's not even what you do. Why are you chasing like, man,

867
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: I've watched so many um you know, being politically correct

868
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: as I am never um urban artists, go get white management.

869
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: There you go the funk are you doing? Funk are

870
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: you doing? Get with the people who understand what you

871
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: do and be great, know where to take and be great. Relax, Relax.

872
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: You're not getting on those projects and you're not getting

873
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: in those rooms. And if you get in that room,

874
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: in that room, it's going to be what you call

875
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: it earlier, the photo op and other ship that's not

876
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: going to touch that does not touch your bank account.

877
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: Straight up. So man, big shout to Katie for this

878
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: conversation of like, yeah, after she says, get back to you.

879
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: One of my partners from Chicago dialer, Man, you know

880
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He worked with Dirk Oh TF you

881
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He was He was a role

882
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: managing Big Sean and he introduced me to him and

883
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: I remember playing him some beats. And this is before

884
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: I started smoking weekly. I used to be allergic. That's

885
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: a whole another story. I want to touch that before

886
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: stay and you were allergic to it were past tense

887
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: that used to be allergic to weed, and way like,

888
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: what was your reaction? Like hitch, Like as soon as

889
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: I tap it, my whole face is Sweller in real life.

890
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: And so that was I remember in high school. I

891
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: gave it a try and my mama being like because

892
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: I wasn't allergic to anything, you know what I'm saying,

893
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: and my mama being like Medicael, and I was like, man,

894
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: I went to Long John Silva's. It was the fish

895
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: at Long John Silva's. You know what I'm saying. She's like, Minicael,

896
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: you have to stay away from that. I don't. I've

897
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: never taken you there. Why are you figured that? The

898
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: whole time? Mr Weed? And it wasn't until I broke

899
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: up with my first baby Mama that I was on

900
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: some real depression. And I also was working with James

901
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: Foller Roy a lot. So between the depression, between the

902
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: depression and the curiosity, and he's gonna make it look

903
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: fun too. I just stayed in the house and built

904
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: up a tolerance, like my face would be swollen, and

905
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: I just fought through it. I fought through it until

906
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: my body knew it's gonna to kill me. So my

907
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: body was like, all right, we got it. We got it.

908
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: Like the kid who eats dirt, really what that is.

909
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: It was a lot of ship happening to my body,

910
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: and I just was like, we can get through this.

911
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: Nigga conditioned himself to smoke weed. You can't get through this.

912
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: You like the Chronicles of Riddick. No, bro, you are wild, insane.

913
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: So you meet Big Sean. So I mean Big Sean.

914
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: He hit in the weed and he stopped and said,

915
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: am I high? Or are these beats really good? I

916
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: took offense to that, you know what I'm saying, like

917
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: because I don't even know what that even means, Like

918
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: you mean, are you hot? And I remember leaving, I

919
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: was with my homie, Aaron Michael Cox, alright, my my

920
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: younger brother, and dialer was like, yo, look man, calm down,

921
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have him come by your studio. Came by

922
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: the studio and I was working on the track. The

923
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: first track that I was working on was a little

924
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: like light in the ass, like what Barry was saying.

925
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: And then um, he kind of stopped the session and

926
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: was like, all right, what hold on? If I got

927
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: to beat in my head though, I got an idea

928
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: in my mind, can you make something to something I have?

929
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, go for it, like what you got

930
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: that man said ass ass ass ass ass ass as

931
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: as as as as as as as as as as

932
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: as as as stopped. I make that motherfucker Hammertime in

933
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: roll And in the moment I was like, yo, that

934
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: is I started clapping. I remember myself clapping like so poetic,

935
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I wanted the keyboard like

936
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Then I thought about him

937
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: saying make that motherfucking hammertime. I said, oh, let me

938
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: get that guy damn hammer download. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

939
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: I remember in Hammertime when he said now broke it down, now,

940
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: didn't I remember that it was a time where the

941
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: record went somewhere else because he said now broke it down.

942
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: That so when we said make that motherfucker hammertons Barry

943
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: James Brown as I had to go to that piece

944
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: of the sample when he said break it down that

945
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: in its inn dropped that bitch right there, my eight

946
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: oh eight that said Mr Barry Hackerston, you don't know me, Katie, Katy,

947
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: this for you baby, And now man, we now we

948
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: now we double platinum. Now we're in the club finally

949
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: feeling what we want to feel in the club. I

950
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: felt felt like I made it with you. You had that.

951
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: I was like, hols, my young nigga did Dad would

952
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: come on? They got great? So yeah, that was that.

953
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: That gave me the feeling I was. I was, man,

954
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: I was looking for that feeling. And then Nicky jumped

955
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: on the remix and said, in the Islands of Wikiki,

956
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we're going again. We're going again more.

957
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: And this was like the beginning of the fucking the run, bro,

958
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: This was the beginning of like those guys got it,

959
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So give us a rundown

960
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: of that. And then with that, what that turns into

961
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: what the what the records that come after the like

962
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: how does how this plays out? When you get those

963
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: phone calls now that are like I need that because

964
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: that is a that's a very real thing in this industry.

965
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: They don't want variety, they want that. They want what's proven.

966
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: And you into found a space, this proven space for

967
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: the interns where y'all niggas cooked and made a lot

968
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,959
Speaker 1: of money and had a lot of success. So after

969
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: ask give us yeah, I mean, that was it. It

970
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: was just like one. It was like all of the

971
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: political the fight that we was trying to get just

972
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: literally scooted to the side. Like it turned into I

973
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: didn't even care who I was working with. Every day,

974
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: I knew somebody popping was gonna be at the studio,

975
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: and I knew he was going to deliver. I looked

976
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: at my ask cap uh the other day and it's

977
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 1: three hundred seventeen joints in there. Three seven. My goal

978
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: is six hundred, So I'm halfway home, you know what

979
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But a lot of the beef was in

980
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: this era. So after that, I remember having a meeting

981
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: wood Karen Quak, dropping off some beasts to Karen what

982
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: she gave those beats too. A good friend of hers

983
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: by the name of the Dream. The Dream was on

984
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: tour with Rihanna and going through beats wrote her a song.

985
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: The last song on her album. He wrote a song

986
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: called Kate Kate, Kate, Kate, Kate Kate, And I remember

987
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: when I made that bet because I originally made that

988
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: beat for Christina Aguilera and Eric Belinger wrote the song.

989
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: It's a song called Mary Go Around. And in typical

990
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: like industry fashion, you do a record that you love

991
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: and they don't pay for it. It never comes out.

992
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you know what, man, I'm about

993
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: to start moving these beats around. You won't pay me

994
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: for the beat. I'm giving it to somebody else. That

995
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: somebody else was Rehanna, and that's a good brod. I

996
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: remember when we first got the news that the song

997
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: was going on the album. They told he it was

998
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: an interlude, and me and to him, we got into

999
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: a fist fight because I was so mad that we

1000
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: finally won the Rihanna Sweepsteaks and they were talking about

1001
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: we weren't gonna get publishing because it was just the

1002
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: interlude and you know, we will pay your feed but

1003
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, come on, man, like this is

1004
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: this is one of these is it? Like? You know

1005
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying this one? And I remember to being like,

1006
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: but you gotta relax, man, this is the best on

1007
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: the album. All this ship is gonna go like chill

1008
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: like he knew, knew the whole time. He was like chilled.

1009
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm like the funk that man sick at it, you

1010
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: know what? Full and he was he was like a

1011
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: little trade with with dope. Boy. Guys, why are you

1012
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: being in my head like that? Why are you just

1013
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: getting say the joke before me? I'm trying to get

1014
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: to the world. What are you talking about? Swing trying

1015
01:04:54,120 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: to knock the air out? Because I was Coast so well, like, listen, guys,

1016
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: Coast Coast is the nicest guy ever. He doesn't want

1017
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: to fight, he doesn't want to do those things. So

1018
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: to get him to that point, man to really make

1019
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: it mad and and he's still gonna just punch the air.

1020
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: That's it. So I'm swinging trying to knock the air out,

1021
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying too, like trying to call

1022
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: me down. And then like a few weeks later, I'm

1023
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: in Greatstone and I hear the DJ say like we

1024
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: got Rihanna in the building, blah blah blah BLAHM Like yo,

1025
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm on this lady album. She got me as an interlude.

1026
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: I ain never even met this lady, and I saw

1027
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: Chris and a coute. I'm just like Chris Man. I

1028
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: just heard the DJ saying Rihanna was here. I produced

1029
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: birthday cake and I never even met her. He's like, oh,

1030
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: you ain't never met Rihanna. Come on, man walks me

1031
01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: over there to the section. Bro c we re. He says, Rihanna,

1032
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: this is CoA signed from the interns. They did. They

1033
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: did a birthday cake for you. She said, Oh my god,

1034
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: you did? You did? I love that song? Dive into

1035
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: my arms. I've seen the pictures flashing. I envisioned myself

1036
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: on media take out as her new boyfriend. I knew

1037
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: they was going right. Who was the mystery man with Rihanna?

1038
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm actually holding onto the hug a little

1039
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: longer so that I can have this moment of her

1040
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: new nigga. You know what, I'm saying that happy and

1041
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: we're happy, and we're happy and we have this funny

1042
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: because the media takeout article that I ended up getting

1043
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: was with Angela Simmons and they named they put somebody

1044
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: else name on top of man. They didn't put my name.

1045
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: It was like a basketball player it was like Angela

1046
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: was such a such she just like, guys, we're supposed

1047
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: to do this for Rihanna man and actually used my name.

1048
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: But anyway, she said, I have the idea. Though, I

1049
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: have an idea. I think I'm gonna put Chris Brown

1050
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: on the remix. So I want you to come by

1051
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: because my fans are asking for the Rihanna Navy wants

1052
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: the whole song. I'm just like Chris Brown on this,

1053
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: y'all back to y'all going to get back together for this.

1054
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: So I'm not your boyfriend. So I'm not your boyfriend.

1055
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: But the people for me to take out any ship,

1056
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: they don't write this up because I'm not. Because she

1057
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: can get why and yeah, she called Chris and that

1058
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: remix came out and went to number one. And when

1059
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: I tell you, I had never got a performance check different.

1060
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: It's different the performance when it's on radio, when the

1061
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: song performs, when performed, every song does not perform. Every song.

1062
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: Don't dance for you. Yeah, so don't dance for you

1063
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 1: now watch this though. It's crazy because to this day,

1064
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: that version of the song is not available in iTunes

1065
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: or Spotify and it's never been sold. So I've had

1066
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: this conversation with Dream a few times, like, bro, like,

1067
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: how much money didn't we get because we never sold

1068
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: it and people can't stream it. He was like, it

1069
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: ain't nothing crazy, goes like four or six million? Nothing

1070
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: crazy though, he's too rich, he's too rich. Understand because

1071
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 1: he understand. He to understand where no, no, no, no,

1072
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: he understand. He understands. It's I respected slapped you upside

1073
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: your head. It's nothing crazy six million like you like

1074
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: you're like, but then, yeah, there was a there was

1075
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: a there was a different thing that that went along

1076
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: with that record. So I get it. I get it,

1077
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: But I will say that record couldn't come out. I

1078
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: will say if at any point because this year is

1079
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: the tenuere anniversary of talk that talk of that album

1080
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: tenor anniversary this year two she ever puts that version

1081
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: up in the streaming UM until my wife's packard ship

1082
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: we moved them removing that day. It's out of here.

1083
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: Sound the upgrade. Any point you want to put that

1084
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: song up in streamings, streamings, streaming for the fans to

1085
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: listen to. Chris Brown and Rihanna. My family greatly appreciated

1086
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: the pilocios is I would love that. So, yes, that's

1087
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: telve Is. I can't I can't believe I really did

1088
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: get it into All my songs come from a fence.

1089
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 1: So Anthony Sele comes to the studio. He was partners

1090
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: with Troy Carter and managing no still manages Naza this day,

1091
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: and he said he came by to just trying to

1092
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: figure O, all right, what you know what's next for

1093
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: the interns, Like what y'all what y'are working on? And

1094
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, like you are manager, Bro, like though

1095
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: something off the glass? You know what I'm saying? What

1096
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: you got? He was like, it's crazy because I was

1097
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: just about to call here boy and seeing him these

1098
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: NAS vocals. Man, I'm just like looking at too, like,

1099
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: who man is this? Bro? Who man is this? Because

1100
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: he in our studios about to send somebody else. He's

1101
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: our co manager. He boy, just he fresh off niggas

1102
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: in Paris, signed to Kanye, my Chicago hero bro. And

1103
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: so he was like, oh, you know what, my bad man,

1104
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that. I'm seeing the fouls coach I got.

1105
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: But it's it's not that much though. It's just a

1106
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: vocal from Nas, a baseline from Salam remy and sample

1107
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: that heavy D. Gave us a late heavy D. Alright

1108
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: pete and salute to the legend. Absolutely, so he gave

1109
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: me that pro to a session with those three sounds

1110
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 1: in there, and I remember talking to Fab about it, like, man,

1111
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: you know what he said he was gonna do? And

1112
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: she said, coach, but it's Nas though, right, and you

1113
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: know your beats are kind of shiny. Mm hm. You've

1114
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: been You've been offended twice the time and just on

1115
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: one song, I said, mhm mm hmm. I went through

1116
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: my hard drive to find the filthiest, dirtiest fun they

1117
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: can put up. What give me the dirtiestre What is

1118
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: the dirtiest snare that I owned? You can't that thing? Thing?

1119
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm going through the hard drive. And that's how NASA

1120
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: don comes about. New York girls know my dude, not

1121
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: another man if she doesn't give me that your beats

1122
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: of shiny pep talk. And I remember sending the beat

1123
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: to Anthony Sile and recording him the first time he

1124
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: heard it and he was just like, shit, you know

1125
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 1: what I mean that. I remember being in the studio

1126
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: with Nas right like now we're building doing other records,

1127
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: and I remember this man. I remember him being the

1128
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: coolest man I have ever met. Yo, because I'm funny

1129
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: bro and I'm cracking jokes and people are laughing, but

1130
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: nos w and be like hilarious laughing. That's how he

1131
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: laughed at me. He laughed cools, a little scratchy, little hilarious.

1132
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm just like, come back to the beach, Get back

1133
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: to the beach. And then uh um Astrid was on

1134
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: our management team, Astrid and she called and said, Nicky

1135
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: want to I want to work with y'all. And we

1136
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: got up with Nikki and Nicky was like, I need

1137
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: a song that makes my dancers feel like how they

1138
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: felt when ass came mouth, because I remember being on

1139
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: tour and I remember just watching them going, I need

1140
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: I need one of those, you know, I need my

1141
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: own ass. I'm like, I got you, Nikki. And so

1142
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: she had a verse in this sample idea um the

1143
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boom from Polo Polo down. And

1144
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: so she was like, I have this idea that I like,

1145
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: and I like it a lot. I know you can

1146
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: make me love it. I was like, all right, So

1147
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: we got in the room. The first thing we did

1148
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: was listen to the whole so makes a lot of sample.

1149
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: Just listen to the whole songs. Vibe to the song

1150
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: for a second. When he got to that part where

1151
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: he was like, my Ana Conda, don't won't none it,

1152
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: she was like, that's how you need to start the

1153
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: ship if you're gonna do. If I'm you and I'm

1154
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: making it me, I'm starting with that. You say less

1155
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: than me, You say less than me, You shut your

1156
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: mouth while you talk to you my anda kind of

1157
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: bom my and the kind of boom and that's what

1158
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: I was saying, smart as bam, you thunk like the

1159
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: arrangement of the that it was like an opportunity for

1160
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: me to do this track and then pay homage and

1161
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 1: then put the school bell usually to put the school

1162
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: at the beginning. I'm putting the school bell every time

1163
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 1: that break happens. I'm over at school bell this mother player.

1164
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: So people know, you know what I'm saying that this

1165
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: is me. You know what I mean Because even on

1166
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: the NOAs the Dog song, I feel like Jason Josh

1167
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 1: would turn my bill down in the mix and it

1168
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: was like in the second verse area, it's like you

1169
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: turned my bill down, So shout the Jason Joshua, because

1170
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: that's and that's who makes the ask and the gang

1171
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: of my records man, Jason Joshua got it. But he

1172
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: turned your bell down. He turned my bill down on

1173
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: the nods. I don't know why he did that. It

1174
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: was too shiny. No, it's too shiny for the it happens.

1175
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: Jason knows, he knows. He took the lead on it.

1176
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: He'll take the lead to the league. He got me.

1177
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 1: He took the lead on one of our songs, remember

1178
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: keeping one hundred and And we walked in the studio

1179
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: and he starts playing keep It one Hunting and I'm like,

1180
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: as soon as it starts, I'm like, what I make

1181
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: his face right and he says, wait for it, wait

1182
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: on it, nigga, Oh my god, oh my doing started

1183
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: over even that suspense for you. You know what, Jason's right.

1184
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna make sure you know that he's right. You're

1185
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: gonna make sure you know a hundred times over. You

1186
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: guys gotta funk with me. You funk with me and

1187
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: funk with me only bro that ship. I was like,

1188
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: you are amazing, Yeah, because Jason and Jason and hits

1189
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: you with a little bit of like co production on

1190
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: your mix. No, it's not like, it's not like, it's

1191
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: not like Jason is definitely producing Nigga's record. Absolutely listen

1192
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: when we send a Canada the show and Cana the

1193
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 1: show is done. Like just do what you do. Get

1194
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: a mix I got, can't let a show back with

1195
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: a snare on the hook. I was like, did you

1196
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: He said, absolutely needed it. I like it. I like it.

1197
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: I like it a lot, like it a lot. Thanks me,

1198
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: thank you, sir. You know, Jason called me before he

1199
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: makes asks. It was like, what you want the basis

1200
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: sound like? I was like, I want to sound like

1201
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: a distorted bass guitar the rumble on that motherfucker that

1202
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: he put on that bitch so um so. Yeah, we

1203
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: started a conda off with that Maana. So that's how

1204
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: he even got the name. It wasn't called anaconda, it

1205
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: was called an kind of after you know what I'm saying.

1206
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: The intro happened, and I just remember that song like

1207
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: going to the Moon, like that was the most intentional

1208
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: hit that I had had where it was just like, okay, nikky, this,

1209
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: I know that I'm recognizing in the times that this

1210
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: is about to be a lot of things are going

1211
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 1: to be different after this. Brian had another proud moment

1212
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 1: for you. We're in Seattle, Jamal Crawford's wedding tanks performing

1213
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: and who's there? Who else is going to perform? Seattle's

1214
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: own Sir mix a lot? And I'm like, Yo, my guys, right,

1215
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: my guys did that? Man? He got a lot and

1216
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: I had it for that m he took a lot

1217
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: of that pub you start the song off with it,

1218
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: you mean you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but no.

1219
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: It was a really proud moment being able to just

1220
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: be like, man, miss my guys, that did that right,

1221
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: and he he was like, man that I love it. Man.

1222
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: I was a moment. Then next year we're nominated for

1223
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: the Rap Song of the Year, bro, and you know,

1224
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: to me, that's the coolest award and the rap song

1225
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: of the year like ship Man. And I remember being

1226
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: so hype and then like lying to myself saying, I

1227
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: don't care about if we winner lose. I'm already a winner.

1228
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: And then we lost. I wouldn't do a deep depression

1229
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: to move back. We lost, I funked up the bag,

1230
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: then went back to my auntie house. I just see

1231
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: myself right now in the backyard. I'm in the backyard

1232
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: crame because I know that as many times as people

1233
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: have been like, your mother must be so proud, in

1234
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: that moment, she was not proud the bag. I was

1235
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: out here whiling, having way too much fun, indulging in

1236
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: things that don't happen in my local neighborhood where I'm from,

1237
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: and the Hollywood sauce had gotten to my bloodstream. But

1238
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: I needed a real time out. You put yourself on

1239
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: time No, I fought it, but when you definitely the

1240
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: rent I'm asking, I'm just asking a few work. I

1241
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: wasn't strong enough. Now, how did time out happen for you?

1242
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: Because I can tell your time out happened for me.

1243
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: Family members flew in town two just paid to put

1244
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: my whole house and storage and they were just like,

1245
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: come on, come on, buddy, for intervention, come on and look.

1246
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: It was wild because what I didn't realize was people

1247
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: didn't understand what I was going through. But I was

1248
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: having a moment of not really all the way dealing

1249
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 1: with moms. In the midst of all of this, I

1250
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: had an artist that I got a pub deal at

1251
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: Universal and was about to do his artists deal at Colombia.

1252
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: They had just signed Adele, and Columbia was like, this

1253
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: is our mail Adele. And then he passed away a

1254
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: testicular cancer. A brother by the name of Aaron Michael Cox.

1255
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: He was twenty two years old, extremely talented, extremely talented,

1256
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: and it just it shook my world, you know what

1257
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it literally shook two blocks away from

1258
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: like the studio. I'm like, wait what And and then

1259
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 1: my son's mother and I, you know, we are broke up,

1260
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: was like official. Our breakup was official. So I just

1261
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: was in. I was in Shamble's brother. I was not

1262
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: doing the self work, you know what I'm saying. And

1263
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: I remember going home and I remember my family just

1264
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: being so confused, like and I remember my cousin the

1265
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: older sisters, and my cousin Jazz, that's the one that

1266
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: seen me playing basketball. But her older sister drove me

1267
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 1: to a rehab center and I was just like so

1268
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: taken back, like wait, this is what y'all think I

1269
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 1: need if you don't get me out of here, you

1270
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, And then I realized, like

1271
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: that was how I realized that the energy were Damn,

1272
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: this is motherfucker's think I'm full on strong outbout this

1273
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: bit like oh ship. And I remember being home and

1274
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: feeling so low, but the love that I was getting

1275
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 1: at the crib was so rejuvenating but confusing at the

1276
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: same time. So I could think of his one brother.

1277
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: I used to be on the corner man, my next

1278
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: door neighbor. His name is Toriano, and I remember growing

1279
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: up for my mom everybody to be like, you stay

1280
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: away from Toriano. You know you yang banging and I

1281
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: don't want to see you on the corner with him.

1282
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: And now with all the decorations, for the first time

1283
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: in my life, I'm in Maywood on the corner with

1284
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: Toriana hit the weed. I'm telling him about got there, Micki,

1285
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: minajs Rihanna, And he telling me, Bro, when I was

1286
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: locked up and you was doing your thing, do you

1287
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 1: know they didn't believe that I knew you, man, And

1288
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm telling them, that's a little bro right there. Man,

1289
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: I'm telling him, I'm like, man, y'all better get out

1290
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: of here, and that's a little bro. And it was

1291
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 1: just like, damn, they told me to stay away from

1292
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: me my whole life and here I am with you,

1293
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: and this is the love that you. I didn't I didn't,

1294
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't even know. You know what

1295
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He had been locked up while the room

1296
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: was happening, you know what I'm saying. But the rejuven

1297
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: nation of Chicago love bro got me together that because

1298
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: I turned effected to come from too. Were you live?

1299
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: This guy, you know, in the sense off limits of

1300
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 1: your entire life for the streets is watching as they say,

1301
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: absolutely they are. And I'm sing there, I'm grown that

1302
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: you know it can't Nobody telling me I can't and

1303
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: now and I got the weed now And then he

1304
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: goes still down. So I'm and my cousin was there,

1305
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: and my cousin used to be cool. So we were

1306
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 1: on the corner. Bro, I'm on the corner in May,

1307
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 1: I'm on the corner. I know, on the coner because

1308
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: me and this fool used to be on the phone. Well,

1309
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean you the reason why I ain't back, you

1310
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like it was about it was

1311
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: about a good nine month time out and I remember

1312
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: Jay hit me like, man, what's something checking in? And

1313
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: I remember trying to tell him that everything was amazing.

1314
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: I was trying to paint Chicago to be the greatest

1315
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: thing that ever happened. Yeah, you know, I'm downtown with

1316
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: the sole Who membership at Columbia and you know they

1317
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: won't be doing tear talk man. You know I bed.

1318
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: He was like, hop's time to come back. What you

1319
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: what you doing? Bro? Come back to l A. Man,

1320
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I was like, I'm coming. I

1321
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: was saying, came back. It's a little deeper than that.

1322
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: But I leave out because because our podcast is very real,

1323
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: and our podcast is cautionary at times, and you know

1324
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: in the information that we give and how we give it,

1325
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: and you know you're my brother. I lave you to death.

1326
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: I called you a loser ship. I left that part out,

1327
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: but I had to. Yeah, I had to because you

1328
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: had got into big fish in a small pond mode.

1329
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: You went home with all your accolades, and he was

1330
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: flossing into everybody on the corner and everybody at the

1331
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 1: Soho House of Chicago about what you had done in

1332
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: l A and how you you were in my I

1333
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: this is my opinion of me. Looking at it, I'm like, oh,

1334
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: he didn't win back home and not told him why

1335
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: he at home. He didn't went back home and say,

1336
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: you listen, the projectal Son is back and I'm cracking

1337
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: and black when I definitely didn't tell people why he

1338
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: was back right now, which I get it, I get it.

1339
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: But the people who know and the people who are

1340
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: there for those moments when two is getting your place

1341
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: packed up and your family is trying to have an intervention,

1342
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: and like, I was literally a part of all of

1343
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: that for you, and and so when you've given me

1344
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: the gloss over story about what was happening out there,

1345
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: and and I'm like, nah, nigga, you're You're a loser.

1346
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: You quit. Quit, you quit, because there's a thing like

1347
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: I respect the guys who do it what they're from.

1348
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: I respect y'all. If you can, if you can, if

1349
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: you can accomplish the great things that you can accomplish

1350
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: in major cities like New York and Los Angeles when

1351
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: it comes to music business in Atlanta now obviously, um,

1352
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: if you can accomplish those things and smaller cities and

1353
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: in places that the music isn't um put on a

1354
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: on a major scale every single day. Even though Chicago

1355
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: has amazing talent, has amazing people that have come out

1356
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: of Chicago and are still in Chicago. But for someone

1357
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: who had went and came to Los Angeles and made

1358
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: it for themselves to go back home and not on something.

1359
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: I'm just going back home, and I'm I'm cracking. I'm

1360
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: going back home because I got to. I'm like, na, bro,

1361
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't let them push you out. Now.

1362
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: If you're gonna go back on your own and you're

1363
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna open up a school of music and you got

1364
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 1: a label going and you got you signed an artist,

1365
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: salute to you. But if you're going home right because

1366
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: they took your basketball with your pockets, who you've lost?

1367
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: And I hated having to have that conversation with you,

1368
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: but I knew I couldn't get off the phone with

1369
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: you that way. I knew I couldn't get off the

1370
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: phone with you that way, and I had to, at

1371
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: the very least at least tell you how I felt.

1372
01:26:49,280 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: I had to offend you as you as you as

1373
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 1: you know how we do an R and by fashion,

1374
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 1: we have to get into your R and B mind.

1375
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: You know you spoke a lot of musicianship and a

1376
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: lot of creative genius um that is in you. You

1377
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: know it's in your blood. Um, I need to know

1378
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: your top five R and B artists, any era, of

1379
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 1: all time, of all times. Michael Jackson, m Stevie, wonder Ship.

1380
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: I'll be scared of the three. I don't be scared

1381
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: of the three. Let's do it, Just do it, do it.

1382
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: R Kelly Chaos. Uh, that's just as Chicago is just

1383
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: so unfortunate. And that's a whole another you don't even

1384
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: have to explain. Um, and ya got me on the spot,

1385
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: like Stevie, roh, this is gonna be a curveball. I

1386
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: might lose a lot of people here, but I gotta

1387
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: just beat music. Sold job Bronna lose nobody, no one

1388
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 1: that you didn't lose nobody in this room, cold bloody.

1389
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: And I'm putting my brother to Tank number five. Let's go,

1390
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: come on, come on, if it was a fifth, we

1391
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: all beat close it down with my motherfucking brother, motherfucking right.

1392
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Let me tell you that I

1393
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 1: can't explain to you the like the the shock that

1394
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: I feel with people when they're like thinking, you know

1395
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: Tank in real life, that's a thing that's a thing

1396
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:57,520
Speaker 1: all in together in itself and that love and respect

1397
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: that you have the true fans of R and B.

1398
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: Bro blesses me, bro that blesses me dog. And it doesn't.

1399
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't allow me to take this for granted. You

1400
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for real, Appreciate, appreciate Top five

1401
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: R and B songs, all time songs. Now Donald Jones

1402
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: where I want to be? Kick it off? Kick it off?

1403
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: He left his bag? Oh my god. Tough message. You

1404
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: don't have to message. This is a curveball, but I

1405
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: gotta put it in here. Um when we're deep in

1406
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: the crevices. This is um music, soul child, previous cats, right.

1407
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 1: I know that's like a way what are you talking about?

1408
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 1: But it's a good orientation song for relationships and reminding

1409
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: people to love like you've never been hurt because people

1410
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: bring a lot of baggage in the relationship music. So

1411
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 1: chat on that song. First things, First, girl recognized who

1412
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: is with you now? Second thing, you can't blame me

1413
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: for how you were treated before I came, So it

1414
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 1: really pushes towards that song was musically yeah, previous can't

1415
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: love like you've never been heard UM songs and I'm

1416
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna overthink. I'm gonna go Dave Hollister.

1417
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 1: Seeing you reminds me of Wow, all the nights that

1418
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 1: you still beating it up, man, get it. Yeah, come on,

1419
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go to my O. G. C. T.

1420
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: Carl Thomas. You have me on some Mike right now.

1421
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,600
Speaker 1: Shout out to the guy, the guy, and let me

1422
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: tell you about my God. To tell you about Mike Cities.

1423
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: Because when I was a when I was in college

1424
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 1: at Columbia, they sent me out here for six weeks

1425
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, four the semester in l

1426
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: a program and one of my big homies out here.

1427
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: It's like, y'all want to take you this show. I

1428
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: want you want, I want you to introduce you to somebody.

1429
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: It was damn there and make a wish kid. He

1430
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 1: got a lot of moments, bro, They snuck him into

1431
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: the program. He was supposed to being like man a

1432
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: while too. It's got a while too, b because that

1433
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: the same teach you that hired me the project, the

1434
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: same teach that high I definitely get fired. But when

1435
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: I first got there, he was so mean. Bro. This

1436
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: man said, I don't know why they do this to me.

1437
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: Every semester and put a hunted students in this class.

1438
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: When I'm gonna fail eighty of you, and if I'm lucky,

1439
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: two years from now, I'll be able to send one

1440
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: of you to l A to represent the school. But

1441
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: what I won't do is let anybody in here embarrass

1442
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: the school. Two years later, I was the one Wow.

1443
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: And so when I came out here and make a

1444
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: Wish Coast Wow. When I came out here, they took

1445
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: me a Mike City studio and this is when Jojo died.

1446
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: Jojo was going and so I remember Mike planning about

1447
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 1: five records in in a row that made me want

1448
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 1: to stop producing. So I was like, oh never, Bean

1449
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: looks good. Yeah, and looked. Then he played one that

1450
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 1: was like kind of I and it was so encouraging.

1451
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:39,560
Speaker 1: You know what, everyone makes mistakes? How to do that?

1452
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I got I gotta be second dude. Wait,

1453
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 1: so you're not perfect, so it's possible and it you

1454
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, let me know, like the law

1455
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: averages how to go. So anyway, so yeah, shout to

1456
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: Mike City for real, for real? Four now, one more,

1457
01:32:54,600 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: one more r and b mm hmm mmmm uh let's

1458
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 1: suppose some to Joe to see in there. Take my money,

1459
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: my house, not card for you. You can't have it all, babe,

1460
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: because make it. Tell me, dude, this girl is worsting

1461
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: toru what because I'm an addict WU and you know

1462
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 1: that I can't leave you on you got me? Man?

1463
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: My god? Yeah him him, my god, sex him. Okay, Okay,

1464
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that's great. That was really good with

1465
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah. Yeah, oh my god. Who bro he

1466
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 1: was a master. He was a master master producer. That's

1467
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: why I start calling myself coach like he's my hero.

1468
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 1: He's a man. He was a master for producer. Okay,

1469
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: we're making a voltron, making an R and B votron

1470
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: vocals style, performance, style and passion. Who you getting the

1471
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: vocals from Mike Michael Jackson? And if Mike wasn't available

1472
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: in Whitney, m you can't do that. But that's fine.

1473
01:34:55,200 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: I'll let you do that. It's fine. Um style what

1474
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 1: you want your artists to drip? Like? Who like a

1475
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: fashion stamp? Yeah for sure? Yeah, what's the aesthetic? Throw

1476
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 1: it on? Come on, man, Wh're gonna put it on April?

1477
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: May you know what I mean? You know, you know

1478
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: who's gonna put yeah, but who's so what are you

1479
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: looking for? An artist? Artist? That's a style that you artists.

1480
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: We shot out some stylis and you know who behind

1481
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: the drip, but who's gonna put it on them? It's

1482
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is gonna work, but I

1483
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: gotta throw it out there. Rick James, Oh, absolutely work.

1484
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: You mean I tried to dress like Rick James wants

1485
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 1: you gotta be Rick James, addressed like Brick James. This.

1486
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: He was hurting for like a week, hurt he performed

1487
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: what what show was that? What's that show called? He

1488
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 1: perform this? Rick James? No, no, no, The brother was

1489
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 1: hurt for like at least a couple of days performing

1490
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 1: eels bro in the boot, in the in the high

1491
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 1: boot tights, the whole nine. And it was only Rick

1492
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: can do Rick? All right, you realize that's rock star ship. Yeah? OK,

1493
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I like that, Mike, Rick James, Jesus Christ. I see

1494
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 1: where you're going. Not in the ro who you want

1495
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: to get like on stage? Who do you want to

1496
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: take that front? Performance style? Style? Performance style. The quick answer,

1497
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: quick and dirty is going back to Mike again, because

1498
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: from a performing standpoint. Yeah, but for the sake of

1499
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: this and moving around Chris Brown voice like Michael Jackson,

1500
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: close like Rick James perform like Chris Brown. That's all

1501
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:56,560
Speaker 1: over the place, because Yeah, I love it, backflip in

1502
01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: the bus with no problem with and with whose passion? Yeah,

1503
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: who's passion? Whose hard passion? James Brown? Hey, this is

1504
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 1: a killer James Brown. This is a killer is well

1505
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 1: huh you know, yeah, all of that. I need that stink.

1506
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: I need that holland ugly. I need to yeah him

1507
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: as a music director, because that's like damn in my

1508
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 1: new twists, right, like bringing my musicians in and really

1509
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: getting into the live show. I feel like, you know,

1510
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: being in the studio all this time, never being on

1511
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: tour and never really getting a chance to like really

1512
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: just share and get my musician bag. I'm studying James.

1513
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm about to do a whole case study on James

1514
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 1: Brown and that performance in the band and the hits

1515
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 1: and that musicality. I need that. He was the only one.

1516
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 1: I need that. James was one of one, even musically,

1517
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: he was one of one. Nobody's ever even thought to that,

1518
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah he thought about it. You gotta leave all of

1519
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 1: that alone. This man woke up one day and said

1520
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: saying loud, I'm blocking, I'm proud like music. That the

1521
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 1: thing about this music is just gonna outlive us. Bro,

1522
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 1: that's the part that's gonna outlive us. So the responsibility

1523
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 1: that we have to do what we need to do

1524
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 1: during this very short period that we have this opportunity

1525
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: to go ahead and and and tap into what legacy

1526
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: is gonna look like for our family tree, Bro, talk

1527
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 1: about it. It's a huge, huge responsibility. Bro, sot have

1528
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: a little balance, you know. But that's I'm glad you

1529
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: said that. Though I'm glad you said that, I'm super

1530
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: glad you stop, because Yo, it's so funny. We had

1531
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 1: the show last week. We had a show this week

1532
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 1: last week, and I prayed before the show, and when

1533
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 1: I was done praying with the musicians before the show,

1534
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: feel smarter. As said, So you said you want people

1535
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 1: to see and feel God after we play ass ass

1536
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: ass And just like he mumbled back, because he was

1537
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: like walking to the keyboard, I was like, come on,

1538
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 1: come on, but but you're right. Look. I put out

1539
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 1: my my debut EP as an artist last year called

1540
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Truth Serum and Hello World, Hello, world. But look King's

1541
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 1: right featuring Interest Elbow. And when I when I was

1542
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: approaching the artist album, I was thinking about Assid Kakekake

1543
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: Cake and one Time for the Birthday Bitch and Little

1544
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 1: Booties Matter and all the whole ratchet department. You actually

1545
01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 1: have records that are going to play forever, forever, One

1546
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: time for the birthday and time for it dud Trap

1547
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: back dude, Monster Production, And let me tell you something.

1548
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,680
Speaker 1: That song was done. Trap came to the studio and

1549
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I got this song I did with

1550
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: my homie. It's just could you could you put the

1551
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: beat on steroids? Did you put the beat on steroids

1552
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: for me? And he played the song for me and

1553
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 1: I was like this, I did the same thing when

1554
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: you played it for me. I was like, man, what man?

1555
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: That man? It's your birthday again? One time to play

1556
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: a birthday every single day, because two times for the

1557
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 1: birthday didn't fuck it up. If it's your birthday, bitch,

1558
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: I said, bro, do you have to file for that?

1559
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: I could not work on that track fast enough. And

1560
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 1: that man brought his first platinum record to Jacksonville. Man

1561
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: shout out to track backum man, that's just person Platinum.

1562
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: I know you've done enough good in these streets. Man,

1563
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be all right. It's gonna be all right.

1564
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna gonna be all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1565
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 1: Your balance is good. But while we're you know, we're

1566
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 1: here and we're talking about the goods you've done in

1567
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: the streets, we also have this important segment of the show.

1568
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: It's very important. It's card I ain't saying on names.

1569
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 1: And for the people who have just tuned in for

1570
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 1: the first time, it's a story that you tell us

1571
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: that gonna be either funny, are fucked up. Are funny

1572
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: and fucked up. The only rule to the game is

1573
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: you can't say no names. Cool cool, This is co signs.

1574
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: I ain't saying on name. I ain't saying names. Um,

1575
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: back to the state where you are, moment um. You're

1576
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:50,680
Speaker 1: gonna put us in it where you are. So I

1577
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 1: wrote and produced that record, but the inspiration behind that

1578
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 1: record was me being in the studio, how having a

1579
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 1: TV on and seeing a young tender. You know what

1580
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying that I used to I used to see,

1581
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 1: we used to, we used to date. Now she's on

1582
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon and the first thing that I wanted to

1583
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:22,679
Speaker 1: do what's called her because she was with the fake congratulations, yeah,

1584
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 1: because you live on another level. I was just I

1585
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: was just you know, I just wanted to make sure

1586
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: you knew. I always knew you was gonna make Jimmy fay.

1587
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 1: And she used to smoke weed before I started smoking weed,

1588
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:41,560
Speaker 1: So I want to tell her, and you know, so

1589
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: if I beat the allergy, so so if you want

1590
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: to smoke together, you know, I'm here and I'm going

1591
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: through all these emotions looking at her her glory, and

1592
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 1: I said, nope, you know what, turning over a new leaf.

1593
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Stay where you are. And that's where that line just

1594
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 1: keeps shining in my face, Like coach, it's certain. There's

1595
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: certain moments that ain't no going back. It was a

1596
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:13,799
Speaker 1: moment in time I see shining baby, drive me crazy,

1597
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: and it's but just keep shining baby, riding up on

1598
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 1: some real player. I kept it. That was not pushing sand,

1599
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: you push pushing. That's a great collaborative, you know what.

1600
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: To a lot of the fellas out there, that's some

1601
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 1: real grown man ship. You missed your beat, Yeah, you

1602
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: just missed it. And after you stopped fucking with her.

1603
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 1: She was able to. She glowed up. She glowed up.

1604
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 1: She's to find it. Then you have to respect that

1605
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 1: from afar because if you get too close, it might

1606
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 1: do something to you too, especially if I'm a new nigger.

1607
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:08,560
Speaker 1: You bet not you know what bad not pushing. This

1608
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 1: is part two of not saying no names. Right. So, uh,

1609
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 1: there was a situation where I did get too close.

1610
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 1: Of course you did. There's another situation. Another young lady

1611
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: was now because my sister said that ship. She was like,

1612
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It just seemed like all women just glow

1613
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 1: up once they stopped working with you. I was like,

1614
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 1: you know how you you know how your sister just

1615
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: get that offend, hurt, hurt. I couldn't even say that back.

1616
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:44,600
Speaker 1: There was no fight back from me. She laughs, crazy cursing.

1617
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 1: So anyway, I see this young lady, she's in her glow,

1618
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 1: and in my mind, I'm like, enough time has gone

1619
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: past to where you know what I'm saying. And look,

1620
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even like I was trying to leave

1621
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: her alone, coach. I just was gonna give her hug

1622
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 1: and say congratulations. She pushed me because she punched you.

1623
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,759
Speaker 1: She pushed me. She pushed you at the Awards series.

1624
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Are you really try to go in for a hub?

1625
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: You said, because you when you say it, don't go

1626
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 1: too close. I was like, oh yeah, because because I

1627
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 1: wanted to go out thinking about it. She gave you that,

1628
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 1: and and so immediately I just started scanning the room

1629
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: to see if anybody. So immediately it was like what

1630
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, just walking, just walk. It's not sweet. It's

1631
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 1: not sweet. And I'm still mad. Dress off. I'm saying it.

1632
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:54,759
Speaker 1: Stay where you are, stays you are you are, don't pressing, coach,

1633
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 1: don't pressing, don't press in. Would she go up? Oh? Ship,

1634
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 1: if he go up? Right? It is what it is.

1635
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 1: Let it be. You understand what you're saying, because it's

1636
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 1: it's it's probably better without you. Life, it's probably better

1637
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 1: without you. Oh my god. Everybody ain't for everybody. Everybody

1638
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,639
Speaker 1: ain't for everybody. And some relationships are just for a season.

1639
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: The season you get what you needed that you get,

1640
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: you get your harvest of that season. They get the

1641
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 1: harvest of that season. You take your you know, you

1642
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: take your harvest and you go with it, keep it

1643
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 1: and whoever whoever that's supposed to feed next, that's what

1644
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: that is. Yeah, thank me for that. Yet somewhere enjoying

1645
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:49,679
Speaker 1: the goodness. Welcome. Make sure you make sure you're telling

1646
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 1: them because if you find, if you find you a

1647
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 1: good one man, they do some good things for you.

1648
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: Those are new things, just like whoever taught you that.

1649
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Come on, thank you, Come on, come on, nan man.

1650
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta say it out loud. Just you seem

1651
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 1: to see me in the club by this man. Because

1652
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 1: you know what, though I can say this though honestly

1653
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 1: in relationships, I can't handle the truth of your past.

1654
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: So what that means is, let's just say hypothetically, you know,

1655
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I use use my wife as an example. Say we

1656
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 1: go to dinner somewhere and there's a guy that she

1657
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: used to do everything with. I want to know my

1658
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 1: mario is, let me enjoy my steak, Let me enjoy,

1659
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: Let me enjoy. If we're cracking jokes, let me and

1660
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 1: let me go home and sleep and let me live

1661
01:47:52,400 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 1: and die. And I don't because in past situations, think

1662
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: about this situation, this young lady, and I can't. I

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01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 1: gotta be light on the details. But let's just say

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01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: once we was good and and in it we had

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01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 1: an honest conversation. We were in the park. We're in

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01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 1: the park, and I instantly had to boo boo when

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01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:35,719
Speaker 1: I heard when she starts the truth, noticed right away

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01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: I was in the park lot in this because I

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01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: remember the parks of I couldn't just be like, I'm

1670
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 1: going to bathroom. I remember being outside like wait, how

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01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 1: how old were you? And how old was he? And

1672
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 1: you did what? And you were spending and all the details,

1673
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: bro the details, and I can't you can't go back.

1674
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 1: So a lot of brothers, y'all, these relationships with these ladies,

1675
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 1: worrying about the wrong fucking things. You got to know.

1676
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 1: It's just your turn now telling me. So I'm gonna

1677
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 1: previous cats, pous cats. I just think that don't walk

1678
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 1: me in Nowhere Blind. I want to be blind. I

1679
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: want to but he with the lady. I want to,

1680
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: like what the movie, Don't walk Me in Nowhere black,

1681
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 1: because because the past doesn't doesn't bother me. Just don't

1682
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 1: just don't let the past be be used against me. Yeah,

1683
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need to know why I nigger shook my

1684
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: hand that way? Yeah? Period? Yeah, why do you keep

1685
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 1: staying over here? That was a different kind of embrace. Yeah,

1686
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 1: don't let trouble beat you up. Yeah yeah, I don't care,

1687
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 1: but the's gonna change no dynamics. So let me get

1688
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 1: this right. No Name, Part three three, first ever on

1689
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 1: the Rybody podcast Keep going three names right Um talking

1690
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 1: to uh this young lady about a situation that had

1691
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 1: just occurred, right, and it had threw me off because

1692
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 1: the handshake, the greeting, everything she's speaking of. Because I

1693
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 1: was going to ask you for an example what you're

1694
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 1: talking about, But now I realize what the example was.

1695
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 1: So I'm telling her just like, yeah, you know, he was.

1696
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 1: He was with his homies. They was laughing, and I

1697
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 1: just didn't understand, Like that's crazy. I've been knowing him

1698
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 1: for some time. And she goes, Marco's it only happened once,

1699
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,080
Speaker 1: And what I tell you, I'll tell you that is

1700
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 1: the farthest thing from my mind. I'm venting about my

1701
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 1: day in life. This is just my day marks It

1702
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 1: only happened once, alright in it it's not like how

1703
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 1: many you are. I was like, wait, wait, she told

1704
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 1: herself like the niggle House and Dragon she told on herself. Wait,

1705
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I said, wait, you did what with hem? Yo. I

1706
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 1: was boiling. Oh yo, yo, I had to get out

1707
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 1: of here. Bro, I had to to get out of there. Man,

1708
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 1: no more, no nation. It's three and I feel like,

1709
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,680
Speaker 1: did you keep telling these stories? I don't want you

1710
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 1: to go back down. Yo, you're traumatized. God, man, it's

1711
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:25,519
Speaker 1: a great way. Oh my god, Oh my god. Bro. Listen,

1712
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: um ship I don't know my name at this point.

1713
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:39,560
Speaker 1: Oh Ja Valentine and this and this has been the

1714
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 1: Army Money podcast. This has been interesting. Um listen, listen,

1715
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 1: man um for for lock. What is the blowback? Oh,

1716
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: this is gonna be People will be trying to figure

1717
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 1: out the characters. The only thing I can say at

1718
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 1: the end of this, my brother, is that we love you.

1719
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: You are really our famis and that's it. We love

1720
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 1: you and we will always appreciate you. And you already

1721
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 1: know the where I love I love you brothers more. There,

1722
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 1: I love you brothers more. Thank you for having me. Man.

1723
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:38,000
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1724
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:41,200
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01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,320
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