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Speaker 2: Good morning, swimmer, old man. Welcome to the No Dungs

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Speaker 2: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, November tenth, Happy

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Speaker 2: hump day. I'm Jay Skeets alongside me. As always, we

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Speaker 2: got Tas Mellis.

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Speaker 3: How's it going to everybody?

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Speaker 2: It's up task, got our top shot, hot boy Trey Kirby. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: the international man of mystery taking it to the max

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Speaker 2: Leellis friends, and last, certainly not least making the magic happen,

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Speaker 2: Super producer JD. Hello, there is and here we are.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to the stream team joining us here on

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Speaker 2: gonna get to last night's three games. We'll touch on

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Speaker 2: all three of them. We're gonna hit the beach well,

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Speaker 2: beach step in answer a few of the questions you

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Speaker 2: we start with an update from the Big News on

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Speaker 2: yesterday show, and that is raining MVP Nikola Jokic has

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Speaker 2: fouls that led to Jokic's retaliation, while Jimmy Butler was

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Speaker 2: fined thirty thousand for attempting to escalate the altercation and

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Speaker 2: failing to comply with an NBA security interview. He just

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Speaker 2: for all we know. So no suspensions from Morris or Jimmy,

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's fair that Jokich gets a game.

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Speaker 4: I think Morris probably deserves a game as well, simply

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Speaker 4: because Jokic just doesn't do what he did. If it

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Speaker 4: and it was a dangerous play. There's no question that

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Speaker 4: The reaction, as we talked about yesterday, the retaliation, it's

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Speaker 4: You know what's going on? This is crazy. Jokich just unprovoked.

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Speaker 4: It simply wasn't the case. I mean, Nikola jokicch did

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Speaker 4: what he did in retaliation to being hit with a

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Speaker 4: neutral observers would agree that's the case. As far as

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Speaker 4: well find in ten bucks. It doesn't make any difference there.

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Speaker 4: But I will say, looking back at what Jimmy did,

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Speaker 4: just nothing to him. Does he get suspended, maybe not,

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Speaker 4: But remember he did the same sort of thing with TJ.

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Speaker 4: dollars fine him five hundred thousand dollars doesn't make still

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Speaker 2: The emotions from this skirmish, it's spilled onto social media.

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Speaker 2: He chimed in on Twitter basically saying Yokicher's shove against

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Speaker 2: his any Dot due app. Yeah, now that pumped Jokich's brothers,

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Speaker 2: them to respond to Marcus. Now. They tweeted I say they.

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Speaker 2: I don't know which brother actually was doing the tweeting,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jokich brother's been named her made a bit

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Speaker 3: great ballet. You could have a three on two, you know,

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Speaker 3: Marcus and Markif. And then they went back and forth

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Speaker 3: just I'm just I think they had to go home,

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Speaker 3: think there was enough people saying, hey, Markif hit this guy.

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Speaker 3: So I think there was enough, you know, backing from

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler's gonna do his thing right, Like it's just

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Speaker 3: saying I got your back. Boys. This is just like

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Speaker 3: a tip into the big coffee tip jar just saying hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: I mean they play pretty soon, which is nice. I

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Speaker 2: they don't play till March again, especially with an East

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Speaker 2: like it's pretty soon. November twenty ninth, Nuggets traveled to

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Speaker 2: brothers will be in attendance. That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 2: And you said three on two tasks, we could do that. No,

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Speaker 6: You've seen the Jokic Brothers. They're too big. They're all

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I gotta have somebody else. It's

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Speaker 2: got to be three on three because those guys are giants.

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Speaker 2: The one of them's somehow bigger than Yoki, who is

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Speaker 2: a manist man. But Trey, I what you think of

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Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you, Skates, I'm buying this beef. No,

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Speaker 6: big beefers. I don't know. Honestly, the Jokich Brothers, once

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Speaker 6: tough You don't start at Twitter account if you're a

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 6: Interesting, right, I mean like and honestly like people were

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Speaker 6: Miss opportunities there. Talking tough on Twitter doesn't impress me,

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Speaker 6: but I will be excited for this game. Anytime you've

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Speaker 6: I think the right call all around. Morris's hit was

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Speaker 6: a dirty hit. That's why he got a flagrant too.

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Speaker 6: But if Jokic doesn't react, it just ends at a

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Speaker 6: flagrant too. He's ejected. That's probably the right call there.

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Speaker 6: And then Jokic, what he did was a dirtier hit

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Speaker 6: suspension here. And yeah, Lee, you're saying thirty thousand bucks

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Speaker 6: is nothing, but that's fifteen hundred cups a big face coffee.

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Speaker 6: You saw how long it takes Jimmy Butler to make those.

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Speaker 6: He's got to get up at four am to start

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Speaker 6: working out. So if he's gonna make fifteen hundred cups

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Speaker 6: of all nighters here. So I will be happy when

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Speaker 6: this story is over until we get to the fight

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't. I can't wait for November twenty ninth,

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Speaker 2: like I said, which I think is a Monday too.

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Speaker 2: It's not a for us at least, le not buried

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Speaker 2: is exciting. And again I hope we have the Jokic

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Speaker 2: Or maybe just when the Kich brothers tweet again. I

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, was that was Marcus she was talking to.

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Speaker 6: A lot of players were out in this one, skeets.

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Speaker 6: You tweeted about it. Lopez, Middleton, Devincenzo out for the Bucks,

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Speaker 6: roll that beautiful beef footage. ANDREI Drummond had twenty rebounds.

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Speaker 6: That's back to back. That's a lot of roast beef,

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Speaker 6: back to back nights for Andre Drummond. Twenty five on

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Speaker 6: Not a sixer.

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Speaker 6: The guy's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Were you impressed test with the fight the Sixers did

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Speaker 3: He doesn't ever complicate things. He just goes up there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this game was for the sickos. Let's be honestly,

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, all the Sixers, you got Harry's Maxie.

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Speaker 2: Sure we know about him, the Niang Gang bang. Charles

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Speaker 4: wasn't those last couple of minutes. Big Bobby hit a

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00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 4: big three in the corner and Yanna sort of just

429
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 4: did what he had to do that. The Bucks obviously

430
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 4: aren't playing their best basketball right now, but they had

431
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 4: the best player and he showed that in the end.

432
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 4: But this was a pretty tight game for the most part.

433
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 4: A Firkin couldn't really hit a shot last night. If

434
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 4: he hits a couple, maybe that's a bit of a

435
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 4: different story. But fun game all things consider it.

436
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I mean I was worried. I was like,

437
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: this is going to be boring or ugly. Yeah, Buck's

438
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 2: going to dominate them, and they did it and it

439
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 2: was pretty entertaining. You get all these fun little contributions. Again,

440
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: maybe for the secos out there, but it was a

441
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 2: close game down the stretch. Let's go to the Hawks

442
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 2: losing another one. Sad Coka, Donovan Mitchell scored twenty seven.

443
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: Jazz pulled away to beat Atlanta ten to ninety eight.

444
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: I believe that's five losses in a row for the

445
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,479
Speaker 2: for the Hawks task. I don't know if you want

446
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: to start with them or the Jazz looking like the

447
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz.

448
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's finally a good team that the Hawks

449
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: lose to, So it doesn't feel all that terrible. And

450
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 3: they played better, they had a lead late and than

451
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: the Jazz, who are a great team, pulled away and

452
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: they're coming for the Warriors number one spot in the

453
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 3: Western Conference right here, right now, They're going to steal it.

454
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: They're number two. Ten of their next twelve are at

455
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 3: home where they're unbeaten, and it's kind of like a

456
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: flip of the Warriors schedule, who have had a home heavy,

457
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: softy schedule. The Jazz have had a road heavy sced

458
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 3: for home seven road, and they don't have a back

459
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 3: to back where Mike Conley doesn't play half of it

460
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 3: for a while. I think that's around Thanksgiving and that's

461
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: against the Pelicans. So the Jazz are coming for that

462
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: number one spot. I think America will be sitting around

463
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 3: the Thanksgiving table and saying, you know, the Warriors started hot,

464
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: they were number one. Everybody talking about Steph, but soon

465
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert will take that number one spot.

466
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if people are gonna be talking

467
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: about a Thanksgiving unless you live in Salt Lake City. Yeah,

468
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 3: they are not America's team. They're not, but I think

469
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 3: they look like they look like the best Western Conference team.

470
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 3: Even though everybody's on Steph and the Warriors. I think

471
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: the Jazz will be there, and I think they're playing

472
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 3: so so well as a team. The way they pulled

473
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: away in the fourth quarter is the sign of a

474
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: championship team. They've got Miami coming to town, So that'll

475
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: be fun. Maybe America'll be talking about the Miami Utah

476
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: game in a couple of weeks. Probably not, but I

477
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 3: think the Jazz are, you know, they're ready to take

478
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: that one hole because they are playing together and it's

479
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: not just Donovan Mitchell anymore. It's it's a squad. You know,

480
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: you got your your boy once and you got your

481
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: Conley's and you got your Mitchell's along with Rudy playing

482
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: well and your other Rudy. Rudy Gay should be coming

483
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: soon for their bench to help out Hassan Whiteside, who

484
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: is playing like a beast. He's playing so great. Yeah,

485
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: he's a new man. You get a minimum contract, you're

486
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: a new man. I think I think he's helped. I

487
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: mean they went from Derek Favors last year, you know,

488
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 3: nine million whatever it was, to a minimum guy. And yeah,

489
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 3: he's playing extremely, playing well in space. They're just telling

490
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: him what to do and he's listening right now.

491
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bench is great. I mean Jordan Clarkson obviously

492
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: coming off the bench, you had a goo game last night,

493
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: sixteen points. Whiteside, like you said, he gives you twenty

494
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: minutes now and he's like flirting with a double double.

495
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: Joe Ingles who I feel like he's had a quiet year.

496
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: Am I crazy to think that lead? But you know,

497
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: we know he can pop off. And then even Eric

498
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: Pascal is getting some minutes, probably without Rudy there. It's

499
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: ticking up some of those off the bench. So Jazz

500
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: are great, but none of it will matter until we

501
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: get to the playoffs. We said that at the start

502
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: of the season. I think it still holds true. But

503
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: what about the hawksley now foreign eat do you think

504
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 2: we could be seeing them possibly fire Nie McMillan and

505
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 2: rehiring Lloyd Pierce and just see if it works again

506
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: after the sour start.

507
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, it has been a bad start for the Hawks.

508
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 4: A little bit shorthanded last night. That doesn't really mean

509
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: matter anything though, when you're in Utah, it's one of

510
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 4: the toughest places to win no matter what during the

511
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 4: regular season. But just defensively, they just seem to be

512
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: a little bit off right now. They haven't certainly carried

513
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 4: that momentum that I thought they would have had from

514
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 4: the playoffs last season. They just haven't looked like a

515
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 4: very strong team. They don't look like a team that

516
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 4: made the Easton Conference finals right now, so they need

517
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 4: to get on track and get a couple of wins here.

518
00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 6: They have had a.

519
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: Really you know, they've played some tough teams already. This

520
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 4: is the second time they've played the Jazz in a week.

521
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: You know, Jazz are one of the best teams, of course,

522
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: so you know they've had that.

523
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: But they Hawks were supposed to be one of them,

524
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: did i sur dida I.

525
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 5: But they just can't win on the road. That's their problem.

526
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 4: They've played eight road games and they're one and seven

527
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 4: Atlanta right now. So and last night we saw, like

528
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 4: Danella Gallinari was good in the playoffs for the Hawks

529
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 4: last season, he was good for the Thunder in the

530
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: season before that, but regular season Gallo man, he looks

531
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: about a thousand years out old. They're out on the court.

532
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 4: He's just far too slow. He had to get a

533
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: few extra minutes last night because they were missing Hunter

534
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 4: and Bogdanovitch, but his minutes were bad minutes there for

535
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 4: the Hawks. So they will be okay. They'll get a

536
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: few wins together soon, but they're in the midst of

537
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: a tough stretch as well. We've got the Warriors obviously

538
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: the Jazz. I think they played the Suns and maybe

539
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 4: the Nuggets as well on this trip, so they're going

540
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 4: to find themselves in a bit of a hole. But

541
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: I think they're better than what their record suggests right now.

542
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 4: But it's just it's tough to find too many positives though,

543
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: because teams score easily and they can't score enough again

544
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: in all the team's defenses.

545
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron here in the stream team actually taking my

546
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: idea to the next logical step is the Hawks have

547
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: to fire Nate, rehire Lloyd Pierce, then fire Lloyd Pierce

548
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 2: and rehire Nate mc millen to then turn the season around.

549
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: You're right, Aaron, thank you. We eventually got there, so

550
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: maybe that'll be happening if they continue to slow start.

551
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: Trey anything to add to the Hawks Jazz game.

552
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 6: From last night, I think that the Hawks need to

553
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 6: show a little bit more urgency here. Basically, Trey Young

554
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 6: said that the regular season is boring now after going

555
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 6: to the conference finals last year. He said, hey, it's

556
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 6: not a big deal. We're not four and twenty fair enough.

557
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 6: I think that's fine long term perspective, but you got

558
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 6: to win some of these games, and you got to

559
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 6: give a little bit better effort here. Capella doesn't look

560
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 6: like himself right now, so he's not able to cover

561
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 6: up the mistakes that are happening on the perimeter because

562
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 6: it's a blowby fest out there for the guards, you know.

563
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 6: So they beat Trey Young off the dribble, get onto

564
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 6: the inside, kick it out for a wide open three.

565
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 6: That happened time and time again last night against the Jazz.

566
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 6: Twenty seventh in defense right now, you're not going to

567
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 6: win any serious kind of games playing that kind of

568
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 6: defense this year.

569
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 4: All right.

570
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: Our final game from last night, there was only three

571
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: on Paul George scored twenty four. Clippers beat the Blazers

572
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: to extend their win streak. They're playing good basketball right now.

573
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: They're up to five in a row, six and four overall.

574
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: Paul George did get some help though Lelly last night.

575
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: He was great, got in foul trouble. He had twenty

576
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: four points, and Philip the Bosco sort of flirated with

577
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: a triple double. But Reggie Jackson haded twenty three and

578
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: but two season high twenty two. I think he hit

579
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: six threes. As the Clippers continue to win here and

580
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: Blazers continue to struggle, especially on the road.

581
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nick Batoon's been shooting a good ball season. With

582
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: the six threes there last night, I think he's up

583
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 4: to sixty percent for the month. And Reggie Jackson with

584
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: the twenty three there because Paul George was good, but

585
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: he was in the foul trouble and you know he

586
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 4: and Damian Lillard, there's a good beef history between those two.

587
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 4: So this one had a real battle out between these

588
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 4: guys who was going to get the win and the Clippers.

589
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: They have won five straight now, they've beaten the Timberwolves,

590
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 4: the Hornets, and somebody else in but the thunder I

591
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 4: think it was in between that, so, you know, not tough,

592
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: but they the Blazers were their toughest team that they

593
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: had to beat. It was a good game. It looked

594
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 4: like we were going to get some little the time

595
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: there in.

596
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 5: The fourth quarter.

597
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 4: He hit his first four shots when he checked in

598
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: then he picked up looked like a bit of just

599
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 4: a sort of mid body strain or something on a

600
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: play there. He looked almost a bit like Lebron there

601
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 4: that he was feeling it in the in the mid

602
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: section and he kind of cooled off after that, so

603
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: that really in the end cost him of the fact

604
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: that Paul George hit the game ceiling three point play

605
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: over Lild. He was pumped up about that. So goodwin

606
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: for the Clippers. The Blazers, I don't think they've won

607
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 4: away from the away from Portland yet, and that's just

608
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: tough for them. I just yeah, just it sort of

609
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: went as expected. I think the Clippers are a better

610
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 4: team than their record right now, and I think the

611
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: Blazers are just in uh they're just they're just sort

612
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: of not really going anywhere this season, so tough to

613
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: see where they improve from here. Everyone had a show

614
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: Paul George last night and normal pal CJ was on him,

615
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 4: Lilly was on him. But when Paul George has got

616
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: to go, and he's an incredible player because he's so talented,

617
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: he's long, he's got that way of sort of slithering

618
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: into the lane as well when he needs to. Uh So,

619
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: a good win for the Clippers back on track, but again,

620
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: fairly winnable games that have that have that have led

621
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: to these five straight.

622
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: Slithering into the lane and slithering up the MVP chats.

623
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: He's got to be up there at six and four

624
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: for the clip that he started with a really tough schedule.

625
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: Now they've won five in a row and they talk

626
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: about him. I think within that Clippers locker room as

627
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: their leader, is their MVP guy. Like Patoom Yeah, had

628
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: a twenty two point night and all he said postgame was,

629
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: you know, we just needed to you know, tread water

630
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: with Paul George on the bench until Paul got back

631
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: on the floor. We just had to do it until

632
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: Paul got back. And that's that's sort of the focus

633
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: now there they all sort of circle around Paul George

634
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: without Kawhi Leonard there. So the longer QUI stays out,

635
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: the more the Paul George MVP talk should be real.

636
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: The way he's playing and he is at the table

637
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: has showing you the deep Dish pizza in Chicago that

638
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: we waited ninety minutes.

639
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, at least at least yeah, it was a while.

640
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: Paul George should be in this conversation for at least

641
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: ninety more minutes. I think he should be in the

642
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: conversation for deep into the season.

643
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: That's the question. We said this in the preseason tray,

644
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: We said, Paul George will be at the MVP table

645
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: through the first couple of weeks, maybe months, maybe a

646
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: little bit more. Can he stay there or really have

647
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: to take a piss and leave the table? Because he's awesome.

648
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean his usage percentage highest it's ever been of

649
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: his career. That's pretty wild. He's averaging twenty six point

650
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: seven points per game, eight point three rebounds, shooting you know,

651
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: thirty six percent I think it is from three. He

652
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: facilitates for this team. He's the closer for this team.

653
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: He's one of the best defensive guys on this team

654
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: maybe the league still on the wing position, so he's there,

655
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: but yeah, can he can he remain there? Is the

656
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: is the cue?

657
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 6: Maybe he'll finish top five in MVP voting. That can

658
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 6: constituted seat at the table for the entire season.

659
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: Sure that would. Yeah.

660
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 6: Sure. I've been impressed with the Clippers five straight wins.

661
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 6: It's basically just been finally hitting some threes, and that's

662
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 6: kind of the Clippers mo for this season. They're going

663
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 6: to be playing small and getting up as many threes

664
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 6: as they can. Last year they shot over forty percent

665
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 6: as a team, so that's a huge chunk of offense.

666
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 6: If he's shooting the ball, if he's getting those deep

667
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 6: dishes out to the other players piling up assists. He

668
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 6: had seven last night. Thought that was pretty nice playmaking sure.

669
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 6: I think he's a second team All NBA or skeets.

670
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 6: You know, I like to keep track of where exactly

671
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 6: they are on the teams. It's not just all NBA

672
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 6: to me. There are levels to this. But he was

673
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 6: great last night, no doubt, raining Player of the Week.

674
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 6: Cool for him. And also Reggie Jackson I thought was

675
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 6: unstoppable in the fourth quarter. He was just living in

676
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 6: the lane.

677
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know you're going to start seeing

678
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: those MVP lists soon here as we get a couple

679
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: weeks into the season, we said, I guess on yesterday show.

680
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Curry's there, Joki is probably there, Durant is there,

681
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's probably still there. With the heat record to

682
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: start the year, Joannis has to be in the mix.

683
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: Well that's five and then yeah it's Paul George Derosen,

684
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: Is it Mitchell or Gobert for the Jazz? Isn't beat?

685
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: In the conversation John Ran, I mean there's a ton

686
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: Luca with the numbers he puts up on a team

687
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: that is winning games, even though we think the MAVs

688
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: are basically two and eight, they're not. Yeah, so will

689
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: he be there top fively end of the year. He's

690
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: been there before. Hasn't he finished third one year? Yeah?

691
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: That was an okay, see year there.

692
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't say I think. I think Jokic may

693
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: not be at that table though he was my m VP.

694
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: Just the way things are going, we'll get to the

695
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: Michael Porter news. That's going to hurt them a lot.

696
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: But I think Paul George can stay at the table,

697
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: you know, for the whole season, especially if he has

698
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 3: a corner table like us. No need to get up

699
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: to go pee. You can have a sneaky little p

700
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: under the table there. No, it'll see no, one will see. All.

701
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: With Lillard, you said, like that little injury he maybe

702
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: picked up in this gamely and there's been a lot

703
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: of talk maybe he is injured, and that's continued from

704
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: the summer and stuff like that. He looked perturbed postgame

705
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: and his comments about the off season rule changes to

706
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: try and take away players relying on non basketball moves

707
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: to draw fouls. This might might raise some eyebrows, is

708
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: what he said. Quote I feel like the way the

709
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: game is being officiated is unacceptable. I don't want to

710
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: go too deep into it, but the explanations and stuff

711
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: that is getting missed. I felt like coming in the

712
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: rule change wouldn't affect me because I don't trick the referees.

713
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: I don't do the trick plays. And a little bit

714
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: more shit. So, I mean, he showed eleven for twenty

715
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: three last night, okay, but he only took one free

716
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: throw attempt, and his free throw attempts are way down

717
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: compared to is you know, his average over the last

718
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: couple of years when he's been a superstar player. Yet

719
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: weird comments. I thought the guys obviously frustrated with himself

720
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: and with the record, especially away from the Motor Center.

721
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, anything anything you would add to what he

722
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: was saying. He looked perturbed.

723
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: Put it, yeah, I think again, Yeah, he's struggling by

724
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: his standards. The Blazers obviously are struggling, So he's frustrated

725
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: and they're sort of looking for a reason.

726
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 5: And I think he's right.

727
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 4: I think he's one of those players that didn't use

728
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: that sort of embellishment stuff to get cheap easy free

729
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: throws in the past, But we also know that NBA

730
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 4: players complain almost every time they're called for a foul,

731
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: So you can't then complain if fowls aren't getting called.

732
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: You can't have it both ways.

733
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: You know, you've got to say, Okay, the game is

734
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: being officiated differently this year. We all knew that. We

735
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 4: all knew that coming in that they're not going to

736
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: be calling a lot of those fowls. That it may

737
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: be touch fowls or people trying to get the call.

738
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: So you know, if you're going to then complain, well,

739
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 4: fowls aren't getting called, then you can't then complain later

740
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: on if they were to change it back and say, well,

741
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: now other guys are getting fowls that aren't really fouls,

742
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? Like, it seems to

743
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: me that you know, people are complaining about it, but

744
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 4: how many times throughout the course of an NBA game do.

745
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: You see a guy get called for a foul and

746
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 5: he's like.

747
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: What, I didn't touch him, I didn't do anything. I

748
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: didn't do anything. So you know, I think, again I've

749
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: said it all season one. I think the game is

750
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 4: incredibly more fun to watch right now. I think there's

751
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: a lot more contact being allowed. I think it's the

752
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 4: right direction the league is going in. Maybe some people

753
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: are getting faut and they're not getting call for it

754
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 4: that they might have gotten in the past.

755
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 5: I'm okay with that. I think.

756
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 4: I think less fouls and a little bit more benefit

757
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: of the doubt going to the guy committing the foul

758
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: or the contact is better for the game. So I,

759
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: you know, disagree that you know that the game is

760
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: worse or anything like that right now.

761
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like trying to figure out his comments here.

762
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: From what I can tell, he's saying, I thought the rules,

763
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: the emphasis from the officials was going to be on

764
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: all this like trickery, like the jumping into guys sideways,

765
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: stopping on a dime, having them running into your ass,

766
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: all these things, you know, the up and unders that

767
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 2: we've seen from home and before. Like, okay, that made

768
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: sense to try and get rid of that. But then

769
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: what Lillard is saying is it's it's swung too far.

770
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: And now I get again I'm putting words in his mouth,

771
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: but like I'm getting bumped, I'm getting hit, and they're

772
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: not calling just normal plays in his mind fouls anymore?

773
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: Is that? Do you think I have that right task.

774
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: Is that what he's saying here, Like I don't do

775
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: this trick shit, but I'm just like getting I'm getting

776
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: hit in here and I'm driving in here and nothing's

777
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 2: getting called now. And I'm not saying that's right or wrong,

778
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: and whether he's right or wrong, but I think that's

779
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: what he's trying to get at.

780
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's saying, the rules that have been inserted into

781
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: the rule book do not affect me. They're not what

782
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 3: happens to me on the basketball floor. I'm not doing

783
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: what these rules are intended to do. I'm just playing

784
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 3: basketball and I'm getting hit. I'm not throwing my body around.

785
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: And he has a point that more physical play is

786
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: being allowed. It's totally true. You see a lot of

787
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: physical play on the perimeter, and that was not what

788
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: the rules were intended to do when they're written in.

789
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: But they have sort of extended it to just physical play.

790
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: Guys are being allowed to play defense a little bit more,

791
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: you know, just sort of you know, be in their

792
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: position and have a right to a spot on the floor.

793
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: But I do hear what he's saying, because it's almost

794
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: extended to like a little bit handsier even when guys

795
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: are just standing still, Like I bring up the sideline

796
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 3: because there's there's plenty of plays when a guy's sort

797
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: of in the corner and they're getting cornered by a

798
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: defender and they're getting physical with them, and there are

799
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: no whistles. I'm okay with guys having to write on

800
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: a drive to be in position, and you know that's

801
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: the tray young sort of hit that defender and flop

802
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: it away and get a call. But I hear what

803
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: Lillard's saying. I think the referees and monument Cushion has

804
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: said as much that we are trying to swing the

805
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: pendulum back even a little bit from where we swung

806
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 3: it all the way in this you know, these first

807
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: fifteen games, it's gone a little too far. So we

808
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: are trying to take away a little bit of the physicality.

809
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 3: Although it's fun and it's great to watch and there's

810
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: less whistles, I'm sure a lot of the smaller guards

811
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: like Lillard are moving towards defenders and getting hit and

812
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: it's not because he's flopping, but it's because he's he's

813
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: getting hit. And yeah, defenders just have a little bit

814
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: more leniency these days, they can get away with a

815
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 3: little bit more Trey.

816
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 6: What do you think, Uh, James Harden kind of said

817
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 6: the same thing. I mean, we know that he is

818
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 6: more of a trickster than Damian Lillard is, but he's

819
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 6: said basically the exact same that, Yeah, there are these

820
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 6: new points of emphasis, but also some of these files

821
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: should still be fouls. As the season progresses, will those

822
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 6: turn into files? It's quite possible, but we're almost a

823
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 6: month in at this point, so just got to adjust

824
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 6: a little bit. You know, the foul on a three

825
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 6: pointer I feel like is down this year. I feel

826
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 6: like Lillard got a lot of those in the past,

827
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 6: and I don't know, this game just seems to have

828
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 6: evened out a little bit here. There was a massive

829
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 6: advantage for the offense with regards to foul calls for

830
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 6: the past five or six seasons. Now it's swinging. That

831
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 6: pendulum is swinging. It seems to be a little bit

832
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 6: more fairly tilted towards the defense. But eventually the players

833
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 6: on offense, the best in the game, will learn new

834
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 6: tricks and new ways to pick up these foul calls.

835
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 6: So once that happens, and once Lillard starts getting into

836
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 6: the lane and drawn his files. He'll go to the

837
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 6: free throw line more. But everybody's playing under these rules

838
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 6: right now. Free throws are down for basically everybody. So

839
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 6: got to figure out a different way to do it.

840
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the truth is here with the Blazers,

841
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: it's your defense with sucks ass. You know, Clippers shot

842
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 2: fifty two percent again last night, fifty three from deep.

843
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: They beat you in the free throw game getting there.

844
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: I guess that is tied into what Lillard is saying

845
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: a little bit. But they need to get some stops. Lee.

846
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: I want to see them trade CJ. McCollum and I

847
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: don't know, Covington for Ben Simmons and Filler make it happen.

848
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: But I wonder, now with this investigation into Neil ol'sha

849
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: they're in Portland, what impact that has on any deal

850
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: being made if the Blazers continue to struggle out of

851
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 2: the gate. You know, like, who is the decision maker

852
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: in this situation? Is it just the next guy in line? Maybe?

853
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

854
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: The more you watch of Portland, and we don't need

855
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: to go over this again. So we've said it in

856
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: a million times, but it's like what's the endgame here

857
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: with this current roster. You know, I don't know what

858
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: it is. It's not good. We know that it's not

859
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: going to be winning a title. So maybe make this move,

860
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: try and get Ben Simmons out there. We'll see if

861
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: they do it.

862
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: Good luck. If they are able.

863
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: To do.

864
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 6: That. CJ.

865
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: McCollum is the best player going to get for Ben

866
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: Simmons at this point, which might be true, I think so.

867
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

868
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 4: I just if I'm the Blazers and they trade CJ

869
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 4: and they get Ben Simmons, I think Blazers fans would

870
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: riot almost for that myself.

871
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 5: But really I think so, I think so.

872
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: I don't think he's the answer for them.

873
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 6: McCollum hasn't been either.

874
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

875
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 6: No, I know, I as team back so many times.

876
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 5: I get that.

877
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 4: But I just look at the situation with Ben Simmons

878
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 4: right now, and again, he's a ball handler. Lilard is

879
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: their ball handler. So unless Lilard is going to begin

880
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: playing off the ball, which I don't think he would

881
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: would like to do, I don't think that really changes

882
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: the whole off of him. But it's also again the

883
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: reputation that Ben Simmons wild bring. If you get the

884
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 4: best version of him, great, but we just haven't seen

885
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: the best version of him for so long ago.

886
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: They need some fucking stops. They need to start to

887
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: stop that. He might help on that.

888
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: Well, Yes, of course he's an upgrade defensively, sure, but

889
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 4: at what expense on the other end of the floor

890
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: as well.

891
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 5: So I think there's that. That's the thing.

892
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 4: I think my issue here is that Neil has put

893
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 4: a bad team together for so many years. That's why

894
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: they're in this situation. And you know that's the thing,

895
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: Like like Lillard and CJ they were drafted. Other than that,

896
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you've got and they gave up. Remember they

897
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: gave up a first round pick to get Larry Nance Junior.

898
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: I mean that to me is like that's not helping

899
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 4: anybody out. So you know, the real problem here is

900
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: despite whatever's going on behind the scenes there with Nila,

901
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 4: in terms of his actual performance as the GM there

902
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 4: in Portland, hasn't done good enough job there either. So

903
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 4: that's why the Blazers that are just treading water again.

904
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: All Right, we're going to take our first break when

905
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: we come back, though we'll get into some unfortunate NBA

906
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: news when it comes to a couple of guys in

907
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: the league and their injuries, and we'll hit the beach

908
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: to answer a few of your questions. Donk anywhere, All

909
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: right back with no dunks. Everybody's saying the vocal clarity

910
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: is crystal clear here on the stream yard today with

911
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: your boys. So that's happy to hear. Got some news,

912
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: some unfortunate news, though. I think Tass is up to

913
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: something with this first one here. He's got his voodoo

914
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: doll out or something here to try and get Ricky

915
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: Rubio into the All Star Game. But calvs starting guard

916
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: Colin Sexton will be sidelined indefinitely after suffering a knee

917
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: injury in Sunday's action versus the Knicks. The team said

918
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: Sexton has a moniscus tear in the knee, which will

919
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: require additional testing and evaluation. They didn't say anything about surgery,

920
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: but I mean he's going to be out for an

921
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: extended period here. So uh, tough news tasks for for Sexton,

922
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 2: but good news for your Rubio Rubio All Star case.

923
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: I guess sure.

924
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

925
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: I wonder if JD planted that sonosad just before we

926
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: talked about Colin Sexton, because you mentioned Ricky Rubio going

927
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 3: off at MSG's sounding great. Not quite the acoustics of

928
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: Barclay Center that was built for concerts, but I have

929
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: pretty good sounding stadium. Colin Sexton, Yeah, probably out a

930
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: month or so approximately, it is you know who really

931
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: knows at this point. But he'll be back. He'll be

932
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: back to earn his contract a little bit later on

933
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: in the season, and he needs to play well to

934
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: try and get an extension. And you might think these

935
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: Cleveland Cavaliers they might fall off because he's their leading

936
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: score at sixteen points per game. Are you guys here

937
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 3: in an echo or is that just me? Sorry? Yeah? Echo?

938
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: What vocal clarity? Boom gone, there it goes. Yeah, it's

939
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: right up in my ears. So let me turn myself

940
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: off now I feel better. Colin Sexton, Yeah, sixteen points

941
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: per game. He's their leading score because this team does

942
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: it by committee. They've got sixteen guys between thirteen and

943
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: sixteen points per game, and so they're fine. They've already

944
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: had their injuries. Isaac Accorro is going to come back

945
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: and probably take some of those Collin sex minutes. You

946
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: remember Isaaca Carrow, the number five pick last year. He's

947
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 3: been seven games with a hamstring injury. Plays the two

948
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: and the three, although Vickersas says too so he'll probably start,

949
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 3: I think. But Darius Garland and Ricky Rubio, those guys

950
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: together have been phenomenal, so I think those two will

951
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: finish games together. They're averaging about thirteen minutes on the

952
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: floor together per game this year, and they're outscoring opponents

953
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: by sixteen points per hundred possessions. They're blasting teams. Two

954
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: ball handlers that are comfortable sharing the ball together. I

955
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: think in a perfect world without Colin Sexon having been

956
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: there for a long period of time, I think those

957
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 3: are the two guys that you start and finished games within.

958
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: Colin Sexton would be your sixth man. That's because I'm

959
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: a Ricky Rubio lover. Yes, we got some emails the

960
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: last few days wondering, you know, is Ricky Rubio the

961
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: next sort of Kyle Lowry that can just run a team.

962
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: Even this emailer or a couple of emailers even mentioned

963
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: Chris Paul saying, you know, is Ricky Rubio in that class?

964
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: Obviously he's not, But I think that steady hand of

965
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: Rubio in his early thirties, it is good for this

966
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: Cavs team, I think they'll be fine without calling Sexton

967
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: because they've got a lot of depth, sitting at seven

968
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: and four and starting a run at home because they've

969
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: had a really road heavy schedule. They'll be totally fine.

970
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 3: And this is Ricky Rubio's time to shine. But they've

971
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: just got so many guys playing really, really well, and

972
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: guy's coming back from injury in Akorro eventually Market and

973
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: eventually Kevin Love. Too much talent on this team. I

974
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 3: never thought i'd say that about a Cleveland Cavaliers team,

975
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of talent on this team.

976
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: Do you buy everything? Tasks to selling you here, Trey,

977
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: The Calv's going to be okay, even though losing Sexton,

978
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: who obviously scored a lot from them last year. He's

979
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: fallen off a little bit this year. But what do

980
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: you think?

981
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they'll be fine. It is weird. He's

982
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 6: in a strange position where he's leading the team in scoring,

983
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 6: but I feel like he's the player you hear the

984
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 6: least about on the Calves, except for now that he

985
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 6: is going down with an injury. But yeah, Rubiell will

986
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 6: step into the starting lineup and maybe That helps with

987
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 6: the calves as well, because right now Colin Sexton is

988
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 6: averaging more turnovers than assist. As we know, he's out

989
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 6: there to try and get some buckets. So I don't know,

990
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 6: you know, maybe losing the depth of having a top

991
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 6: tier player as a problem for the Cavs, But I

992
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 6: think they'll be able to just wide Rubio into the

993
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 6: starting lineup and roll from there.

994
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. John Schuman's pumped about tonight's game. Leally huge Cavs

995
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: Wizards game to Nate. Wait, what a line so great?

996
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: Schumann used it on the stream team and on his

997
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: own Twitter account. You're right, You're right, John, It's a

998
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: big one here Wednesday night. Anything to add lee to

999
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: the second injury.

1000
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an interesting situation there with Sexton because he's

1001
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 4: a good player. He's a score first point guard. He's

1002
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 4: not really a distributor. But he also seems gettable. But

1003
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: they also sort of don't appear to be trying to

1004
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 4: trade him either, So you.

1005
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: Know, where does he fit in?

1006
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: Again, if you're a leading scorer on any team, that's

1007
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 4: that's a pretty good thing. And last year is over

1008
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: twenty a game. He was twenty four a game up

1009
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: to twenty seven a game. Actually at one point versus

1010
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 4: Ale is nice one there, So yeah, I don't think

1011
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: he's he is actually a part of their long term.

1012
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: I think they are going to move on from him,

1013
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: but while they hold sort of the rights here, he's

1014
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: obviously going to be a restricted free agent after this season.

1015
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: They're probably just seeing what the interest is and what

1016
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: they can get out of him, because I think Garland

1017
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: is their sort of primary backcourt guard there. Rubio is

1018
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: great now, but he's also thirty one, so you can

1019
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 4: get a couple of good scenes out of him. But

1020
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: I think they want to sort of keep going with

1021
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 4: the youth movement they've got there and the meniscus that

1022
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 4: seems to be one of the injuries with the biggest

1023
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: variance in how long you're out and if you need

1024
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 4: surgery or not. Some guys, of course, have been out

1025
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 4: for the best part of a season's ended some careers

1026
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 4: in fact, but other guys seem to only miss a

1027
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: week or two, So I guess it just depends on

1028
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 4: the severity of the injury there for him, But I

1029
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: think he's good Sexton. I'm just not sure exactly what

1030
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: his value is and even what sort of a contract

1031
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: he would warrant from the Warriors from the Cavs next season.

1032
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, sixty million, four years, sixty million,

1033
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: I mean something around that. He probably gets more than that, rightward.

1034
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did score, like what did he scored last year?

1035
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty four game? Sixty games.

1036
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 4: He just doesn't do much else though, really, and he's

1037
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 4: not He's not even like a big three point shooting

1038
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 4: sort of guy. He's more sort of old fashioned, you know,

1039
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: you know, he gets the two's and things like that,

1040
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 4: but he also doesn't give you many assistance. Not a

1041
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 4: great defender, but no, yeah, I mean sixty yeah, sixty million.

1042
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: Anyone gets four years and sixty these days, so one

1043
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 4: hundred you can't get a hundred million.

1044
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 5: I have no idea.

1045
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: Don't beat yourself up over Yeah, we'll get to his

1046
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: contract down the line. We'll see if the Cavs can

1047
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: can take care of the t Zards tonight.

1048
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 6: What do you think about this here?

1049
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 8: Lee?

1050
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 6: It's no longer sex Land, just Rubland. Yeah, I guess

1051
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 6: rube Land.

1052
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1053
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's great. I think it works perfectly.

1054
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be a sad day for everybody. If

1055
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 6: Colin Saxton actually does leave the Caves and they have

1056
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 6: to split up sex Land, I mean population won at

1057
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 6: that point.

1058
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: It's true.

1059
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: It's true. Okay, another injury news. It's got lost a

1060
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 2: little in the Yokic Morris fracas, but Denver Nuggets forward

1061
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior is going to be out of the

1062
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: lineup for quote here, the foreseeable future. That's according to

1063
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 2: head coach Michael Malone. Porter missed all of his rookie

1064
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 2: season in eighteen nineteen due to back surgery. He left

1065
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: Saturday's game against the Rockets with another back injury after

1066
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: he missed that open layup. You know, we had it

1067
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: as a bit of a loser of the weekend. We

1068
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: tied it with the hard and glitch there. It was like, well,

1069
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: what happens. You don't see an NBA player blow a

1070
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: wide open layup, but he did grab his back, and

1071
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: now we wonder how serious this is for a guy

1072
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: that's had back injuries. Trade foreseeable future. You think the

1073
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: Nuggets can survive, especially with no Jamal Murray.

1074
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 6: It's a little worrisome, no doubt in the short term.

1075
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 6: Murray is out. Jokic MVP calendar calendar caliber, but they've

1076
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 6: been playing pretty poorly. The Nuggets have offensively. They're twenty

1077
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 6: fourth right now, and a lot of that has been

1078
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 6: Michael Porter Junior struggling to start this season. Aaron Gordon's

1079
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 6: turning it around a little bit here, but you're gonna

1080
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 6: be asking a little bit more or from him. And

1081
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 6: Will Barton has been awesome so far, but I don't

1082
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 6: know how much more he has to give the Nuggets.

1083
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 6: So perimeter scoring I think is going to be an

1084
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 6: issue for them as long as MPJ is out long term.

1085
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 6: Like you're saying, Skeets, the Nuggets have got to be

1086
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 6: shaken in their boots a little bit here, having just

1087
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 6: signed MPG to a five year extension after all of

1088
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 6: the back concerns that brought him to the Nuggets in

1089
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 6: the first place. The good thing is that the Nuggets

1090
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 6: say they're being cautious. There's no mention of surgeries or

1091
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 6: anything like that. Mike Malone said it could be a week,

1092
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 6: it could be longer, so you know, we haven't heard

1093
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 6: anything super bad at this point. That's all good news

1094
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 6: kind of. As far as a player being out for

1095
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 6: a back injury, those are smart things to do. But

1096
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 6: it means they probably keep them out longer, which brings

1097
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 6: us back to the first point. They're going to have

1098
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 6: trouble scoring from the perimeter out there, silver lining MPJ

1099
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 6: has been brutal this season. Yeah, right, So maybe a

1100
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 6: little bit of rest gets him healthier and he comes

1101
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 6: back looking the player that they found in the second

1102
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 6: half of last season when he was lights out and

1103
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 6: hitting the glass and one of the better shooters outside

1104
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 6: and looking prime for a big junk. This season, we

1105
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 6: haven't seen it yet, and maybe it's because his back's

1106
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 6: been bothering him. So if he's able to sit out

1107
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 6: a little get healthy, that could help the Nuggets in

1108
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 6: the medium term.

1109
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he was shooting thirty six percent from

1110
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: the field, twenty one percent from three. He had been bad.

1111
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: The Nuggets are weird though. Tests They ranked near the

1112
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: bottom somehow of the league in offensive efficiency, but they're

1113
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: second defense overall. Right now, So yeah, Trey's maybe right here.

1114
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 2: He's he's out of the lineup and they can still

1115
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: continue to play, especially well on the defensive end. It's

1116
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: a little strange for this team to be flipped like

1117
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 2: that in my mind, But what do you think?

1118
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally weird, and it's a little weird that

1119
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 3: Michael Porter Junior didn't have protections put in his contract

1120
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: when he signed that Max big deal like the Sixers

1121
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: put in his their contract with Joel Embiie because of

1122
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: the injury history that I would think that Denver would

1123
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 3: want to put in some sort of you know, protections

1124
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: for themselves because of the back injuries. And there was

1125
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: rumors when he signed that extension that there was there

1126
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: was conversations about it. But maybe that's why it took

1127
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 3: so long because Denver or I'm sorry, Porter's camp just

1128
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: didn't want it to happen. And good for them. He

1129
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: got four years guaranteed plus a partial guarantee in the

1130
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: fifth year. And as Trey said, that's why they got him.

1131
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: That's why he fell down in draft boards because he's

1132
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 3: had two back surgeries and yeah, I'm no doctor, but yeah,

1133
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: they herniated disks what he's had surgeries on the bulging

1134
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: discs way back when I'm sure can can flare up again.

1135
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: As I don't know, I don't know if Steve Kerr

1136
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: is a doctor or either, but Steve Kerr has has

1137
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: repeatedly said if you can avoid back surgery do it.

1138
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: So you know, it's one it's one thing that unfortunately,

1139
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 3: maybe they are being cautious and maybe they'll be fine offensively,

1140
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 3: because Michael Porter Junior doesn't not look like himself at all.

1141
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: It's a yeah, terrible start after this contract extension happened.

1142
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, I assume they're being cautious. I assume that

1143
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: that's the case because they just signed him to a

1144
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 3: deal that's a monster deal. He didn't get sixty million,

1145
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: he didn't get a hundred million. He got a lot

1146
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: more in that. So they're being super cautious with the

1147
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 3: dude that they wanted to be. Yeah, the their second

1148
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: or third leading scorer for a long time, and their

1149
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: their GM has said, maybe I love my guys on

1150
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: my team a little too much, kind of like you know,

1151
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: a fantasy GM. You know, they're like, you know, a

1152
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: fan of any team, a fan of any team just

1153
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: loves their players. You know, they signed Gordon to a

1154
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 3: monster deal, to sign Jamal Murray to a monster deal,

1155
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 3: and now Porter Junior is the same. So they're really

1156
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: relying on their guys being healthy, so hopefully he gets back.

1157
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they played tonight with no Yokich because of the suspension,

1158
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: no Michael Porter Junior because the back injury, and of

1159
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: course no Jamal Murray. So we'll have to do numbers

1160
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: for tomorrow show tasks, the amount of salary, the percentage

1161
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: that will be sitting out tonight's game. We'll see what

1162
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets can do in the game. But yeah,

1163
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: anything to add on MPG there.

1164
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: Ah, No, just that you just have to look at

1165
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 4: his numbers and the way that he has been moving

1166
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: around on the court to show that he probably has

1167
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 4: been bothered by this for most of the season. You know,

1168
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 4: twenty percent from Downtown doesn't get to the free throw

1169
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 4: and he doesn't get to the free throw alerne all

1170
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 4: that much. But that to me suggests that there probably

1171
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 4: is something that's been bothering him. And now when I

1172
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 4: do look back at that play that we did highlight

1173
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 4: the other day and him sort of trotting back, I

1174
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 4: have a bit more sympathy for him now because he

1175
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 4: probably tweaked it.

1176
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1177
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So knowing that now that he's out, it's like, Okay,

1178
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 4: maybe this has been bothering him for a while.

1179
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: Okay, let's hit the beach and answer a few of

1180
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: your questions. Yeah, a little beach step in here on

1181
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: a Wednesday. Keep sending in your cues No Dunks at

1182
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: the Athletic dot com if you want to email them in,

1183
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: or you can tweet them in at No Dunksinc. That's

1184
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: I n C. Or drop him in the YouTube comments

1185
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: below any of our videos are first one here, that's

1186
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: a fun one, Hello, No Dunks. The first nickname I

1187
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: heard for Gary Peyton. The second was the Mitten, but

1188
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: recently he said he likes young Glove, So despite how

1189
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: fun it is to say mitten, I will respect his

1190
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: wishes and call him Young Glove. But it got me

1191
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: wondering what are nicknames someone almost had that you wished

1192
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 2: had stuck. Turn Up Guy is awesome. That's from Brett

1193
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. Thanks for the fun email there, Lee.

1194
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: I know we tweeted out this question too and got

1195
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: some great responses this morning from some of the people

1196
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: out there. But what do you have, Lelely?

1197
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 5: Well, I've got a couple here.

1198
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 4: The first one is a name, a nickname that I

1199
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: gave to a player that even I've forgotten about really,

1200
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 4: and that's Luka Doncic.

1201
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 5: It was the dunk.

1202
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 4: Even Maria Taylor on game time one night, called said, oh,

1203
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: the Donk is going off during the playoffs, So I thought, wow,

1204
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 4: it's starting to catch on.

1205
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 5: Right, But that was it.

1206
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 4: I think, Oh, actually, since then, I don't even really

1207
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: call him the Donk, So I'm not sure how it's

1208
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 4: gonna stick. But I still think it could work for him.

1209
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: So it's it's difficult because he has such a great

1210
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: first name. You know, if his name was Paul, if

1211
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: his name was Paul Doncic, then okay, now you're maybe

1212
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: trying to do something. But Luca, it's just it's such

1213
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: a great name.

1214
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Luca Magic.

1215
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, I'm not a fan.

1216
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 6: Of Luca Magic. I'll say no, Nah, that's too lazy

1217
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 6: to me. Same reason I'm not a big fan of Yoker.

1218
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 6: Yoker jokis being called Yoker.

1219
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: Oh my Jesus, are you okay?

1220
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 6: No, man, No, that's the problem. Literally all these people

1221
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 6: are doing is saying, oh, these sound the same. Here's

1222
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 6: a nickname for you, ridiculous, Like the same as like

1223
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 6: naming uh Gore and Dragach the dragon. Just gotta have

1224
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 6: a little bit more creativity here. That's why Big Honey

1225
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 6: should have stuck for Nikolaj rather than the joker or

1226
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 6: the yoga if you.

1227
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: Were Okay, what do you have tasks?

1228
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 3: He's a yoker. I'm upset with Gary Payton the second

1229
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: not wanting the mitten. It's it's a great nickname, pretty good.

1230
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: I know he doesn't like it because it's it's just

1231
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: a lesser version of a glove. I can understand why

1232
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 3: he's not smitten with the mitten. But yeah, young glove,

1233
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't roll off the tongue, the mitten, the and

1234
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: a word is good. You know the glove miton.

1235
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: You're not going to be young forever either, gp too.

1236
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: I hate to break it.

1237
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 3: He'll always be younger than I guess young Glove.

1238
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 6: I mean it's cool.

1239
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 3: It sounds like a rappers name, doesn't sound like a

1240
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: basketball player's name. Yeah, okay, I am oh. Anyway, we

1241
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 3: always set around the office. Where's Wan Sho Gomez? Where's

1242
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 3: Wan Sho? I love where's Waldo this time of year.

1243
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: I love looking around for Wan Hernan Goldmez and he's

1244
00:57:59,080 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: it's good.

1245
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: In the year. The year you like, where's Waldo?

1246
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 3: Or he's a Christmas Waldo's a Christmas guy.

1247
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: I never thought of Waldo as a Christmas.

1248
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: Guy red and white. You're sitting around the Santa kinda hat.

1249
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: You're around family around the holidays. You need things to do. Oh,

1250
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: let's up. Okay, where's Waldough? Yeah, so he likes My

1251
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 3: daughter really likes Waldo some some you know, Wacho hasn't

1252
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: turned into enough of a player to have a great nickname.

1253
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: But I'm still looking for Watcho. Where's watcho U. Nate

1254
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: Robinson his nickname was Crypto Nate. He was just like

1255
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: ten years too early.

1256
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 6: It's a good point.

1257
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: He would have been good. Lots of lots of sponsorships,

1258
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: lots of crypto currency sponsorships would have can't come his way.

1259
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: I think maybe he's boxing, I don't know. And Georts

1260
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: Harrelson Josh Harrison his nickname Georgs. I think he could

1261
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: have connected with Lee a little bit. You know. I

1262
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: guess Lee, you don't wear Genie shorts though.

1263
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 5: Not really not John Cena.

1264
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think gene shorts are back. You

1265
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 3: tell me, Trey. I'm okay with him. I think if

1266
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: you have a little full, little cuff on the bottom,

1267
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: you can rock them. But if you're a standard John

1268
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: Cena guy, not like if you don't have a cuff.

1269
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: Not cool.

1270
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, John Cena Shorts, I don't want to see him

1271
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 6: at all, but you know you can pull off a

1272
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 6: nice Jean short. How do y'all feel about Andrew Wiggins

1273
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 6: being Maple Jordan? Take that one back?

1274
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 3: I've always yea, yeah, yeah, I mean.

1275
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: If I'm being completely honest, this guy doesn't even feel

1276
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: Canadian to me, he doesn't want to play for the

1277
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, he's sort of dead to me in

1278
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: that sense being a Canadian.

1279
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 6: All right, we'll go to his second nickname on basketball reference,

1280
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 6: Junior Jordan going hard.

1281
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: Jordan has never worked out all that well for anyone,

1282
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: really shout out to Harold Miner, I think, and I

1283
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: saw somebody say this in the stream team and I

1284
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: saw one respond to the tweet me throughout, and I

1285
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: think it is a good one. At tryby Yt I

1286
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: saw on Twitter say Durantula was always the perfect nickname

1287
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: for a player that never truly caught on in my eyes.

1288
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: With kd's spidery frame and stone cold Killer game, a

1289
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: spider based nickname made sense and it sounded cool. Slim

1290
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: Reaper was another KD one that was great, and then

1291
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: Triby wrote, I think he rejected both though, and I

1292
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: think that is true at least I remember Slim Reaper

1293
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: him not wanting any part of I think the same

1294
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: was true with Durantula, because I remember blogging about Durantula

1295
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: back for Ball Don't Lie, way back when I thought

1296
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: it was fantastic. I still think it's a great nickname

1297
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: for him, especially suit sort of his his body size

1298
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: and how long and wiry he is. But yeah, he

1299
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: didn't want anything to do with it. And then I

1300
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 2: remember Trey, Maybe you can back me up on this,

1301
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: didn't somebody Suit like somebody was threatening to sue Durant

1302
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: for Durantela because he was like he was like an

1303
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 2: eighties guitar player that said he had it. Yeah.

1304
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 6: I do think there are some stories deep in the

1305
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 6: BdL archive about that one. But yeah, I don't know.

1306
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 6: Kevin Durant didn't like Slim Reaper because it had death connotations, right, Durantula.

1307
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 6: Perhaps he's scared of spiders. I don't know. He didn't

1308
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 6: want a spooky nickname, so we just call him KD.

1309
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we really do. Even easy Money Sniper, I guess

1310
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: is sort of his uh what social media handles, but

1311
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 2: we don't really call him that. He is just KD. Butantela,

1312
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: were you fair?

1313
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 5: Yes?

1314
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's great, way better than just KD,

1315
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: because that's like when everyone was just like their first

1316
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 4: initial in their first four letters at their surname, you know,

1317
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 4: C web and JK Yeah all.

1318
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 3: That your l L Yeah.

1319
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah with a cool J.

1320
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1321
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 6: Do you I like him?

1322
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 5: Actually? That's great.

1323
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: Do you believe your nickname has stuck around me?

1324
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 6: It was E dog right?

1325
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 2: Is that what you were going west for a while?

1326
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 5: You put that on back of that was my old

1327
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 5: star nickname. Yeah, you know yeah, instead of as stuck.

1328
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 6: The other ones.

1329
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: I saw that, I like just quickly. I don't know

1330
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: if you guys have any other more, but I loved

1331
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: Frankie smokes for Frank Neilina and I mean it's on

1332
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: his basketball reference page, but no one really calls him that.

1333
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: But it's great and a classic. If you've been a

1334
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: longtime fan of the show The Basketball Jones way back

1335
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: in the day, Manu Ginobili as the pooh God, just

1336
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: really really fun pooh God.

1337
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the one, that one that I didn't

1338
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 4: know until I saw the response this morning that I loved,

1339
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: was Bobby Yes, Sura, any chance to get a Bobby

1340
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 4: soa line in the sure, Yes, yes, Bobby, Yes.

1341
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sure a lot of a lot of people,

1342
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 3: a lot of Bobby Surra haters would have called and

1343
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: Bobby Basura.

1344
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: It's true. Anything else, guys, I know we could probably

1345
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: do like a whole hour on this, but any other sure?

1346
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 6: I actually thought this one always makes me laugh from

1347
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 6: you suf Fast, Peepy, Foryt and Prichard.

1348
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: I hated that way.

1349
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 6: Just quite fast peep here.

1350
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say it, but did anyone see

1351
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 5: the nickname that Jonathan Kmenia?

1352
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, no, I did it, and you can't say it.

1353
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 5: I don't want to say it.

1354
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: That man Kenny Beacham, that's him. That's Kenny Beacham came up.

1355
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 5: I didn't.

1356
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a video of him for sure, So all right,

1357
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 3: I'll look it up. It does suck for Kate. I

1358
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 3: think for k d if the nicknames came up now,

1359
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: when he's mellowed out a little bit, he would have

1360
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 3: been cool with it. I think he was just mad

1361
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 3: at the world back then, like he he you know,

1362
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: he just he just was mad at everybody had the burners.

1363
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 3: He's going at people. In the interview that he had

1364
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 3: with Charles Barkley on TNT kind of said, you know, Charles,

1365
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: why don't you have social media? Charles like, I hate it,

1366
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 3: and Katie's I like it?

1367
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 4: You know.

1368
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 3: He he used to hate it, and if it came

1369
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: around now, he would have picked something else other than KD,

1370
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 3: and and Dave Letterman wouldn't be asking him, hey, why's

1371
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: your nickname? K D? Which was great?

1372
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot that happened.

1373
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 6: That was weird. Okay, let's hold on. Remember when a

1374
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 6: Big Baby Davis tried to change his nickname. He tried

1375
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 6: to be like one one for a little bit because

1376
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 6: he's wearing eleven. He didn't like being known as a

1377
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 6: big baby. Maybe, but I think he's I think he

1378
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 6: is Big Baby Davis on Twitter now, isn't it he

1379
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 6: used to be.

1380
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, at a certain point, you just have to You

1381
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: just have to embrace the nickname, even if you don't

1382
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: like it, and it's good for your branding, especially after

1383
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: you're done playing totally. Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't

1384
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: remember that though. I'll be honest, I don't remember him

1385
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: trying to go check on one.

1386
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 5: Here was the ticket stop? I remember, oh, because Kevin

1387
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 5: Garnett was the ticket.

1388
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, tickets stop.

1389
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: All right, we got a little more cute you're here, tess.

1390
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: Hey, no crux. I saw a video where the Thunder

1391
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: roster was gifted their new City Edition uniforms. It's no

1392
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: surprise that the players all seem to like and even

1393
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: loves a sponsor the new jersey. But SGA said something

1394
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: that literally made my mouth drop. He said, this might

1395
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: be my favorite Thunder jersey for sure. Oshit, there's no

1396
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 3: way Trey's undershirt is his favorite Thunder jersey. Yes, it

1397
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 3: does resemble an under all white. I refuse to believe it.

1398
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: I think he went above and beyond with his praise

1399
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 3: to preserve the feelings of the Thunder higher ups. He's

1400
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 3: a nice guy like that. When have you received a

1401
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: gift you really didn't like all that much but lied

1402
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 3: about it to preserve the gift givers feelings? Turn up?

1403
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome, keep up the awesome work. Best

1404
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 3: podcast in the game. Thank you, Alex Fortune Skeets. You

1405
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: got an answer for this one. You lied about how

1406
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: much you loved a gift?

1407
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit of a storytime here nor through

1408
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: me uh. A fortieth birthday party at our old house,

1409
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: the Ugly House on ken Moore by the KFC, and

1410
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: I started opening some gifts. I got salt and pepper

1411
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 2: shaker set and a firefighter Pug calendar, and then I

1412
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: opened my gift from my friend Lev, who was over

1413
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 2: small wreath, that's all. It was tiny little wreath, and

1414
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: like sort of played it off, like, okay, thanks Lev.

1415
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: He could see that I was skeptical a little bit, though.

1416
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: I told him I liked it. I tried to make

1417
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: that very clear.

1418
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 3: I was lying.

1419
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: That wasn't enough for Lev, though, and he wanted the

1420
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: gift receipt back, and I tried to play it off

1421
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: and the party kept going, trying to open more gifts.

1422
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: He wouldn't let it go. If you love it as

1423
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: much as you say you do and as much.

1424
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 6: As you have been saying, then it shouldn't be a

1425
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 6: problem if I take the receipt back.

1426
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: So I eventually just gave up. I gave the receipt

1427
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: back to Lev and then Lee he ate it. Whoa?

1428
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: He straight up ate it very weird, right, but oh

1429
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: it gets crazier. He then started to say he was

1430
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: feeling sick, like he was gonna fuke like Anthony Davis,

1431
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: and he sadly not because he ate a gift receipt.

1432
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 2: He said, it was because I had mud pie on

1433
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: my hands, that I had shit on my hands. Yeah,

1434
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: which was true. I used too small a slice, okay,

1435
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: in the shitter, so so things got so intensely. I

1436
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: suddenly had our other friend, Melissa, she was eating another

1437
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 2: gift for seat to see if the paper was making

1438
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: levesick or my shitty hands. She was fine. In the end,

1439
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 2: what everybody?

1440
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 6: Everybody?

1441
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: Everybody freaked out. Rake was screaming something about beat my

1442
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: house being covered head to toe and shit, a cake

1443
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: got flapped over. The entire party left, and then to

1444
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: top it off, my friend Lev died. So I guess

1445
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: the moral of the story is, the next time you

1446
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: receive a gift you don't like all that much, don't lie,

1447
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: could kill your friend and also use more paper towel

1448
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: when you're wiping your ass. This is true or not?

1449
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 6: I can't does skates. Does your friend Lev does he

1450
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 6: eat paper a lot? Or is it like this was

1451
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 6: not a one time thing. He's eating paper all the time.

1452
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 6: And he says he says, he ate it all.

1453
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 2: The time in peace, but yeah, yeah, weird ey, it's crazy.

1454
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 2: So that's the one time. And it was a wreath.

1455
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: I didn't even I didn't like the wreath, and I

1456
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 2: should have I shouldn't have lied.

1457
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 4: That's the that's the moral of the story, darnay, Piper,

1458
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 4: I think is the moral of the story.

1459
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: Really.

1460
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: Also, how did the.

1461
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 6: How did the party go after after the receipt practice?

1462
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 6: Did everybody stick around?

1463
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 7: No?

1464
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 2: No, no, I said, everybody left. They went to they

1465
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: were gonna go to Lev's house, but he died on

1466
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: the way. Anyone else would answer.

1467
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:26,839
Speaker 7: Was great, great, confused, Okay, let's just take a final break.

1468
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: It. We'll take our final break and when we come back,

1469
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 2: we got tweeted the night and pick up results don't

1470
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: go anywhere. All right, back with no dunks here, Just

1471
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: to circle back to that story lead. The worst part,

1472
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, was right before left, Lev excuse me,

1473
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 2: left and then unfortunately died later that night. Is he

1474
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: said nobody liked my house anyway, and that really really

1475
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: that stuck with me for a long time, and that's

1476
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: why we moved. Yeah, I missed that old house on

1477
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: Ken Moore, the K sign that you could see through the.

1478
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 9: Let's get to tweet of the night, tweet of the night? Wow,

1479
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 9: JD tweet of the Knight.

1480
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 3: What do you got?

1481
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, So to tonight's treat or last night's tweet the

1482
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 8: night actually comes from a fan of the show, Jacob Riggio,

1483
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 8: and Jacob had a little bit of criticism for us.

1484
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 8: He says, I was pretty disappointed with no dunks today.

1485
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 8: They didn't even reference the news that Vin Diesel made

1486
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 8: a public plea for Dwayne Johnson to return to the franchise.

1487
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 8: I thought this was a Fast and Furious podcast with

1488
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 8: some basketball on this side. Wow, Jacob, you are absolutely right.

1489
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 8: We totally whiffed it on that one.

1490
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1491
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 8: We did ten episodes, ten over two hour episodes of

1492
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 8: every Fast and Furious movie, including Hobbs and Shaw and

1493
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 8: it's it's actually shocking that this hasn't come up before now.

1494
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 8: And Jacob of course is referring to the olive branch

1495
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 8: that Vin Diesel extended to his quote unquote little brother Dwayne.

1496
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 8: And here's what he says. I'll read a little bit

1497
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 8: of it. What a fucking weirdo to like, I mean,

1498
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 8: it's very strange. So this is this is how it ends, basically,

1499
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 8: legacy awaits. I told you years ago I was going

1500
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 8: to fulfill my promise to Pablo. Pablo is is Paul

1501
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 8: Walker for the uninitiated, I swore we would reach and

1502
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 8: manifest the best Fast in the finale that is ten.

1503
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 8: What a weird sentence. I say this out of love,

1504
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 8: but you must show up. Do not leave the franchise.

1505
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 8: Let leave the franchise, idol, nice pun. You have a

1506
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 8: very important role to play, Hobbs. Can't you played by

1507
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 8: no other. I hope you rise to the occasion and

1508
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 8: fulfill your destiny.

1509
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 2: Wow.

1510
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 8: Now listen when we finished, when we finished Fast and

1511
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 8: Fast nine was with the final one we did. I mean,

1512
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 8: I was very much in the camp that the rock

1513
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 8: is not coming back. He said over the over the summer,

1514
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 8: I'm not coming back. So this is like, I don't

1515
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,959
Speaker 8: know if this is just a like a delayed response

1516
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 8: to that comment, like it's weird timing. But I will say,

1517
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 8: they're starting to shoot Fast ten. It's actually two movies

1518
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 8: back to back. They're starting to shoot in January, so

1519
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 8: we're talking two months, Like, are you telling me that

1520
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 8: Hobbs is in the script and the Rock has said

1521
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 8: that he's not coming back. I mean, what is going

1522
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 8: on here?

1523
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 3: Like this?

1524
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 8: It's supposed the movie is supposed to come at April seventh,

1525
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 8: twenty twenty three. I mean, I don't see how this

1526
01:12:59,320 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 8: is gonna happen.

1527
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 2: But okay, JD, I have a question, what would be

1528
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: funnier uh to you for these? You know, if it's

1529
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: a two part movie, so Hobbs written into the script,

1530
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: but somebody else playing him entirely, okay, could be funny.

1531
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: Or would you prefer if he if the Rock is

1532
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: like absolutely not doing it, and why would you want

1533
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: to work with this weirdo anymore? I don't know, But

1534
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 2: if he did it, would you rather? Just like they

1535
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: write him out of the script and like, oh, Hobbs

1536
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: is not in. I mean.

1537
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 8: I think that has to be the latter, like you

1538
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 8: have to write him out, like you have to kill

1539
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 8: Hobbs somehow, But nobody ever dies in this franchise, so

1540
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 8: I mean, who knows?

1541
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 3: Who knows?

1542
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 2: But can you show the photo again too? He photoshopped this,

1543
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: did he not?

1544
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 8: There's like there's something his head is extended back like

1545
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 8: an alien like that like alien from Aliens?

1546
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: Right, like like.

1547
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: Bigger, Yeah, yeah, to go to eye.

1548
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 3: He needs can for sure? Looking, are you telling me

1549
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 3: there's a script for you. I think he may just

1550
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: be on set figure it out.

1551
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 6: I like this idea from Jewels who said they just

1552
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 6: introduced a new character named Bob's played by Steve Austin.

1553
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 6: No surprise, Yeah, no surprise. Does hee Bn come crawling back?

1554
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 6: He knows, he knows he needs Dwayne around, his little

1555
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 6: brother Dwayne. He must love being the older one between

1556
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 6: those two, because obviously the Rock is bigger than Vin

1557
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 6: diesel is. But he's like, sorry, you're five years younger,

1558
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 6: still my little brother, and you send me Christmas presents?

1559
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it's and like I'm not spoiling anything. I

1560
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: know some of you maybe listened or watched all of

1561
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: our Fast Friends podcast through the summer where we did

1562
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: every movie but F nine was by far the worst.

1563
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was bad, very very bad, which is

1564
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: saying something because these are not you know, Oscar worthy

1565
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 2: movies here, but they look a lot better compared to

1566
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 2: F nine. So yeah, we'll see.

1567
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 6: Well, okay, Beton Man, Trey is the Rock going to

1568
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 6: be in one hundred percent He's gonna be in. I

1569
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 6: said it in our last podcast. I think you're he's

1570
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 6: gonna be back, and there's no doubt he has to

1571
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 6: come back. Everybody comes back, And I gotta say I

1572
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 6: also said in that podcast Vin Diesel Dominic Toretto needs

1573
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 6: to die in Fast ten. That's the only way it

1574
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 6: makes sense as an ending. So I would lock both

1575
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 6: of them in because if you talk about it on

1576
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 6: the internet, it happens in a Fast and Furious movie.

1577
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 6: You don't need a script who cares two months. That's

1578
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 6: two months to actually figure out what they're doing before

1579
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 6: they start filming.

1580
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, I fell down a total rabbit hole here and

1581
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 8: I got into the Giselle is Giselle coming back? Who,

1582
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 8: of course is gal Goodot's a character, And I was

1583
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 8: just like, what if she comes back like Idris Elba's character,

1584
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 8: like super bionic, Like, I mean, she's got to right.

1585
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 8: That has to happen too. Like there's these theories that

1586
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 8: mister Nobody faked her death somehow. I'd like to see

1587
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 8: that redcon That is something that I would like to

1588
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 8: see explain how she fell off a car that was

1589
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 8: riding on a plane.

1590
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 6: I mean he just caught her scooped her up.

1591
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,560
Speaker 2: I set it up a time on that podcast, like,

1592
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 2: why are we to believe that she's dead? No, nobody dies.

1593
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 8: We haven't even seen her body. Holly saw it actually

1594
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 8: blow up.

1595
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 3: But Giselle just faded off.

1596
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: Into the darkness. Man, she's coming back.

1597
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 6: They're all coming I can't stop looking at Vin Diesel's

1598
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 6: head now in this photoshop it does look like alien.

1599
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 3: So long. Why didn't somebody do that photoshop?

1600
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 6: No, don't. There's got to be a better photoshop out there.

1601
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree that he is coming back because I

1602
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 3: don't think this would actually be a public plea where

1603
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 3: you would call someone your little brother and expect him

1604
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 3: to accept. Now this is the publicity, Hey, little bro

1605
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 3: come back? Why would the Rock? I want to be

1606
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 3: called little bro to then?

1607
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, another reason he's coming back. I mean The Rock

1608
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 2: obviously a world famous wrestler. Everybody comes back in wrestling always.

1609
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 2: You always come back. You never retired, You're never done,

1610
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: even though you said you are. No, You'll be back

1611
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: WrestleMania or starring in the car a WrestleMania, Like, yeah,

1612
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: he'll be there, He'll be there.

1613
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 3: I love this comment from Alex g In his contract,

1614
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 3: he has to have a longer head than.

1615
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 6: I mean, you joke, Alex, but that might be in

1616
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 6: there my short headed brother dwayde.

1617
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad we got it. Way to go, JD.

1618
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 2: You're a little slow to it, but we got it in. Okay,

1619
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: let's get to pick a result brought to you by

1620
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: bet MGM from last night. It was that Buck Sixers

1621
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: game line was Milwaukee favored by six and a half,

1622
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 2: so we had to win by seven or more. I

1623
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: don't know about you, guys, I did watch this whole thing.

1624
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: It was fun having a little juice on the game

1625
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: with our line here, and I'm like, well, I think

1626
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: the Sixers might cover. It looked at the Sixer might

1627
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 2: win the game at one point. Yeah, I thought they

1628
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: might cover. But they did it in the end. So

1629
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: the one time we all took Milwaukee, we all got

1630
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: it right. So congrats to everybody here. Lee goes to

1631
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: six and one, task five and two. I'm finally above

1632
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: five hundred at four and three, and Trey is three

1633
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: and four. Tonight's game tasks. I haven't even looked up

1634
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: the schedule, but I'm assuming there's a ton on where

1635
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 2: are we going?

1636
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 3: There is I decided to go with the big line,

1637
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 3: and I was worried that all four of us were

1638
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 3: going to take the same team again. Pre show, it

1639
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 3: felt like everyone was taking the Brooklyn Nets as they

1640
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 3: visit the Orlando Magic, even though they're nine and a

1641
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 3: half point favorites. The three of us chimed in on

1642
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,839
Speaker 3: slack Skeets myself and Lee, who threw in a wand

1643
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 3: because we're taking the Magic because we don't think the

1644
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets can win by ten points. That's fair.

1645
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 6: The Nets big wash washy.

1646
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 3: Sometimes they do something. Times they don't betray the fourth

1647
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 3: one swerve. Why do you think the Nets will win

1648
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 3: by double digits in Orlando tonight trick?

1649
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a big chunk of cheese right there. So

1650
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 6: I'm leaning into the Bean because I don't feel like

1651
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 6: Orlando is going to be able to punish Brooklyn where

1652
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 6: they are weakest, which would be inside. I know they

1653
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 6: play a lot of tall guys the Magic do, but

1654
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 6: Cole Anthony is really what drives them, and I would

1655
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 6: just feels like the Nets are gonna want a little

1656
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 6: bit of a bounce back after the loss against the Bulls.

1657
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was I thought it was strictly because

1658
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: you want to prove that the Bulls are back. So

1659
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: if the Bulls beat Brooklyn, I mean they're just by

1660
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 3: far and away the best team in the league. So

1661
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 3: Brooklyn's gonna smash the Magic by twenty. But I think

1662
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 3: it'll be fun for you know some it's a league

1663
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 3: past game, I assume. But people got to watch the

1664
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 3: Magic a little bit. They're fine, they're fine, Cold and

1665
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,440
Speaker 3: Fronz and Mo. They got some players.

1666
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 6: Coal and from the Mo.

1667
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: Hopefully you're watching. That's magic. Brooklyn's got to win by

1668
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: ten or more for Trey to get that w otherwise

1669
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: everybody else will get the victory. So good luck, good luck,

1670
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 2: good luck to you. Okay, we'll call it there. Fun

1671
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 2: show a little, I think you should leave, and then

1672
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: a little fast and furious talk. Email us no dunks

1673
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,720
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1674
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,200
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1675
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1676
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1677
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: Athletic dot Com slash no dunks. I will say for

1678
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: you survivor heads out there. You know there's a lot

1679
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 2: of games on tonight, also a new episode of Survivor,

1680
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: and we obviously have the No Buffs Survivor podcast that

1681
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 2: we do Trey JD Jason conception on it myself. We're

1682
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 2: gonna be going live tomorrow at four pm Eastern on

1683
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: the No Buffs YouTube channel, so a little bit earlier

1684
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 2: than normal we're usually five thirty. We're going at four

1685
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 2: pm Eastern if you want to join us live, and

1686
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: then we'll flip that around into a podcast that will

1687
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: be available on that separate feed as well. Very excited

1688
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: for tonight's episode and all the NBA action, which will

1689
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow to talk about in detail. Until Clipper Bros.

1690
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 6: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1691
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 6: Love you guys, awesome.

1692
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. It's eleven thirty seven Eastern. My

1693
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 3: wife just texted me because we have a twelve o'clock appointment,

1694
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 3: and she said, I think you should live right now,

1695
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 3: so you gotta.

1696
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: Go embrace the day. People.

1697
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 6: You could stay ooo every day. My dad, you happy

1698
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 6: every minute.

1699
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 2: It's been so long that your no wanna way, It's

1700
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: happened already.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be gravy