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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 4: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 6: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: All right, go to be back with you.

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Speaker 4: the Anakin Florian podcast. It's Monday, January twenty fourth, The

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Speaker 4: a lot to get to today. Man, some crazy stuff

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Speaker 4: privacy all right. Time for headlines. UFC two seventy is

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Speaker 4: in the can gosh man this sport, whether it's a

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Speaker 4: the news cycle, right. We might have to go five

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Speaker 4: know absolutely. Do you think you'll ever take up golf

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Speaker 4: And in terms of Francis's training, and we hear all

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Speaker 5: You know, with Cyril, I've always seen a guy who

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Speaker 4: So there was one point in time where it seemed

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Speaker 5: But I don't know, man.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think it was a lot for him

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think STEVEE is gonna fight Seattle Goan

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Speaker 5: Would be the why. Right, he's thirty five years old.

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Speaker 4: I want him to get that life changing money, of course,

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Speaker 5: Now? Stay with us? Right? Well, the thing is, it's like,

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Speaker 5: think more possible, yea, and much more interesting in a

433
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Speaker 5: lot of ways. You know, France again, Francis could knock

434
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Speaker 5: out anybody in the world it he catches them. But

435
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Speaker 5: John Jones, I think is still a different type of animal,

436
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Speaker 5: and I'm really curious to see him compete in the

437
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 5: heavyweight division.

438
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Speaker 4: In terms of that fight happening, Francis and Ghanu versus

439
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Speaker 4: John Jones. Promotionally, it's one of the biggest fights that

440
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Speaker 4: can possibly be put together. To me, it just feels

441
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 4: like a dream, right, Like I'm not worthy, right, Like,

442
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 4: are they really gonna get John Jones and Francis and

443
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Speaker 4: Ghanu in there for International Fight Week in July? I

444
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 4: gotta see it to believe it. But yeah, I mean,

445
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Speaker 4: if you're asking me, like, what's the bigger fight right now?

446
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 4: Stipe versus Francis or John Jones versus Ansist. I mean,

447
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 4: I think they're both great options. But yeah, I would

448
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 4: I would certainly wet my fucking beak with Bulky Road.

449
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Speaker 4: Is there anything else that we need to hit on?

450
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Speaker 4: I guess we're going to get to Ray Longo. Ray

451
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Speaker 4: Longo not thrilled with the early start time today. Our

452
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 4: producer Cody is a man in high demand, so he

453
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Speaker 4: had an early call time today. So this is one

454
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Speaker 4: of the few morning episodes of the Nic and Floring podcast.

455
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to pull up the text from Ray. I'm

456
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Speaker 4: predicting that Longo's going to have a hat on, and

457
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Speaker 4: there's no way he took a shower and is prepared

458
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 4: by now you know, his hare's not ready for this,

459
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 4: certainly certainly didn't brush his teeth, Kinny. So Ray Cody

460
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Speaker 4: has to be done taping by eleven am or so tomorrow.

461
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Speaker 4: Any chance he can do ten thirty am? Ors that

462
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Speaker 4: too early? And he said, I'll be cranky, but let's

463
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Speaker 4: do ten thirty. So all right, I love it, Craik,

464
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Speaker 4: Let's move on. Yeah, And I'm so happy for Francis.

465
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Speaker 4: By the way, I really am really happy for him.

466
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,959
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people in the public Eye

467
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Speaker 4: Present Company included kind of feel perpetually understood by people,

468
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 4: you know. I think a lot of people maybe who

469
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Speaker 4: watch us on TV, compared to what they see here right,

470
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Speaker 4: a little bit different. So I'm really happy for Francis

471
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Speaker 4: and for Eric Nixon and for the squad. All right,

472
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Speaker 4: Davison Figuretto and Brandon Moreno are now one one and

473
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Speaker 4: one through three fights. Unanimous decision forty eight forty seven

474
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Speaker 4: times three goes to the now two time UFC Flyway champion,

475
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Speaker 4: Davison Figuretto. That in and of itself is a tremendous accomplishment.

476
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 4: Lose your belt, rebuild, gain it back. Aren't a lot

477
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Speaker 4: of two time champions. I mean, it's one thing to

478
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Speaker 4: have a sustained championship run. But you know, Domina Cruz

479
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 4: coming back and winning his belt, and one of the

480
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Speaker 4: visuals I never thought i'd see in my life can

481
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Speaker 4: flow Davison Figuretto running up the stairs to get on

482
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Speaker 4: a scale and weigh one hundred and twenty four pounds

483
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Speaker 4: juxtaposed against staring death in the face. Last June when

484
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Speaker 4: Wally Dishmail was legitimately concerned. What are your thoughts on

485
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Speaker 4: what was a very hotly contested, close, competitive, not controversial

486
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Speaker 4: main event.

487
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Speaker 3: What a fight?

488
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Speaker 5: What a damn fight between two savages. You know, you

489
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 5: know and we all knew that. I mean, that's just

490
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Speaker 5: the way that those guys are built, that's the way

491
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Speaker 5: that they fight. For me, I thought it was back

492
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Speaker 5: and forth. I thought it was very close. Myself. I

493
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 5: need to go back and watch it again. Uh, but

494
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Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with Davison winning. You know,

495
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 5: some people was like Marno definitely won the fight. No, No,

496
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 5: one definitely wanted to fight. In my opinion, I thought

497
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Speaker 5: it was super close. But both guys, I thought, thought brilliantly.

498
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Speaker 5: You know, Davison did all the all the work. It

499
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 5: was clear from his weight cut to moving out and

500
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 5: training with Henry Sejudo and the guys in Arizona. He

501
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 5: just looked on point. He looked focused. He was way

502
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Speaker 5: more disciplined. I think throughout that fight as well. I

503
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 5: think that's where he lacked in the previous fights. He

504
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 5: didn't seem so disciplined. He seemed a little overly emotional.

505
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Speaker 5: That wasn't really the case for me here. I thought

506
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 5: he was really well prepared for Brandon Moreno. I think

507
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 5: he was exposing his head a little bit too much.

508
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Speaker 5: I didn't like it. Even in the first round, he

509
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 5: kind of was holding his head high, almost like he

510
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 5: was trying to bait Figaredo in a little bit, to

511
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Speaker 5: try to get him on the counter, it seemed. But

512
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Speaker 5: when you're doing that, as the fight went on, I

513
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 5: was like, no, no, no, this is this is an

514
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 5: habitual thing that he's doing and as he's trading that

515
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 5: chin is starting to come up, and you cannot do

516
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 5: that against a truly powerful puncher in Davison Figueredo Brandon Mo.

517
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 5: Brandon Moreno can pop as well, but he doesn't have

518
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Speaker 5: that same kind of punching power that Figaredo did. And

519
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 5: Figaredo putting him on his butt, I think was the difference.

520
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 5: Even when Moreno was winning and then Figaredo would catch

521
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Speaker 5: him put him on his butt, and that was what

522
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Speaker 5: was allowing him to steal those rounds in my opinion.

523
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think the leg kicks were a little

524
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 5: bit of a problem. But for me, Moreno sticking his

525
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Speaker 5: head up just a little bit and allowing figure Out

526
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: to land those big shots, I think was a major

527
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 5: issue and something that absolutely needs to be rectified in

528
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Speaker 5: the future.

529
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Speaker 4: So I asked Davison Figuretto in the Fighter meeting how

530
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Speaker 4: hard it was being away from his now three year

531
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Speaker 4: old son Benissio for what was really an extended amount

532
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Speaker 4: of time. And he paused for what seemed like an eternity,

533
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Speaker 4: and it looked like maybe he was crying behind sunglasses,

534
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 4: and then he just said it was very hard, and

535
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Speaker 4: that was it. And I don't think people quite realize

536
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Speaker 4: the sacrifice. They see this guy who you know, will

537
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 4: slit your throat or whatever, and don't understand what he's

538
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: dealing with. They spent twelve weeks alone can flow just

539
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 4: on distance management and trying to get him to understand

540
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Speaker 4: risk mitigation and range. And you know, it's just very

541
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Speaker 4: interesting when you hear everybody talk about what they did

542
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: and then you see it all sort of pay dividends

543
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 4: in the fight and the two things I don't know

544
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Speaker 4: if you heard me say this on broadcast, but Henry

545
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: Shudo's biggest value to Figuretto patience. Right like that, I

546
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 4: just kept here are the word patients and game plan.

547
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: You know, Davison's natural inclination is to just go out

548
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: there try to kill a man, not to necessarily stick

549
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: to a game plan, so to fight your natural instincts.

550
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: Just couldn't have more praise for all of the individuals

551
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: that he surrounded himself with and the individual commitment that

552
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: he made to get his belt back.

553
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 5: Those two things were the difference really. I mean, you

554
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 5: watch Figuarele fight. You know he's got the talent. You know,

555
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 5: he's got the physical skills, he's got the mindset. I

556
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 5: think those were the things that separated him from Moreno

557
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: in this fight, which was absolutely brilliant, just beautiful mixed

558
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 5: martial arts all the way around. The pacing, the pressure

559
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: was awesome, you know, truly a fun game of chest

560
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 5: to watch out there between those two. Give me a

561
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 5: fourth fight. I want to see it again. I think

562
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 5: I think both these guys wanted as well, and they're

563
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 5: going to continue to entertain and you know, these guys

564
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: could probably go back and forth for you know, ten

565
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 5: to eleven fights. I love it. I love the way

566
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 5: they fight two champions right there. Awesome to see, and uh,

567
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 5: you know, I think that we will see it up

568
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 5: for a fourth time.

569
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Speaker 4: And you hear Brandon Moreno even at the Thursday postfight

570
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: press conference that candily got a little bit weird for

571
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Speaker 4: my liking. But Moreno's like, you're a good guy, man,

572
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: and Figuretto is a good guy, and he's such a

573
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 4: good guy honestly that he wants to fight him in Tijuana.

574
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: You know, he doesn't want any home field advantage in Brazil.

575
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: You know, this was going to be the toughest fight

576
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Speaker 4: I think of Figuretto's career, honestly, to prove to himself

577
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Speaker 4: that he could beat a guy. And by the way,

578
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 4: the physical maturation of Brandon Moreno's insane, I mean, looks

579
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: completely different, you know. And that I thought was very

580
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 4: interesting that technically Moreno's camp maybe felt so good about

581
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: last June's fight that maybe they leaned almost too much

582
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: into just the strength and conditioning. You saw he was

583
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 4: being coached right after the decision came out and he

584
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: was waiting Moreno was for his postflight interview. He was

585
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: already being coached about the things that he had done wrong.

586
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: If you think this was a robbery, you know, maybe

587
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 4: you're either Mexican or you should turn in your card

588
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: for watching mixed martial arts.

589
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 5: You know, I thought it was close.

590
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 4: I mean, when Daniel Cormier heard the decision, it looked

591
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 4: like there was some surprise to my right from him

592
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: that Moreno didn't win the fight. But judges are so

593
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: discouraged Kenny from scoring rounds ten to ten, you're forced

594
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 4: to pick a winner. You know, I don't know, man,

595
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: I guess I would have to rewatch it to score it.

596
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: But you know, I just thought it was a close fight.

597
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: And to your point, they got to do it a

598
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Speaker 4: fourth time.

599
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and again I have no problem. I have

600
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 5: no problem with Figureda winning that fight. It absolutely could

601
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: lay a claim to that. Yeah. I thought he fought

602
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 5: brilliantly and at the critical moments when he needed to

603
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 5: do something he often did. And you know, again, huge

604
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 5: credit to Henry su Hudo Eric about a scene and

605
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 5: those guys who really had the best Davison figureedo that

606
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 5: I've ever seen. So great stuff there.

607
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Speaker 4: And you know, the captain Eric Albatasi, and I love

608
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Speaker 4: hearing you say his name.

609
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: I mean, the dude is fucking out there.

610
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: You know, like twenty five years from now, if I'm

611
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: even still alive and maybe even writing a book like

612
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: I probably put Captain's name in there because this MMA circus,

613
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: this road show is filled with all of these different characters,

614
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: and he's a really good individual. You and I got

615
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: to know him obviously way back in the day. But

616
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 4: he's doing something right, man. I mean, look at all

617
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: these world champions you know, I don't know. Man, he's

618
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: another guy.

619
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Speaker 5: You know. Not only does he have the technical knowledge

620
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 5: come from that wrestling background and competitive background, but he's

621
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Speaker 5: another guy like Nickxic who says the right things. He

622
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 5: knows how to get inside a fighter's head and say

623
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 5: the right things and motivate them and have them focused

624
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 5: real quickly.

625
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Speaker 4: In terms of the flyweight division, I really am glad

626
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: it's stuck around. I really am excited to see these

627
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: guys fight for a fourth time. I do think that's

628
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: the direction in which they are going to go. Askar

629
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: Askarov is fighting Kai car France right now. What's crazy?

630
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Speaker 4: And I said this on the post show, so if

631
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: you heard this, I apologize if it's repetitive, But what's

632
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: so crazy about this? You saw the Gretta was very

633
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: thankful for this opportun against Moreno, because given the way

634
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: the second fight went, this wasn't guaranteed, and had ask

635
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: her askerrov or Aleschandre Pantosa been healthy, those would have

636
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: been the guys that got the opportunity against Brandon Moreno,

637
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: which is fucking crazy if you don't know, Pantosia has

638
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: history with Moreno, submitted him on the Ultimate Fighter, but

639
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: Moreno's never been finished as a professional, and then Pantosa

640
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: beat Moreno by decision as a pro. So those guys

641
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: have history, So Moreno Pantosia. You know Pantosa, this is

642
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: sort of frustrating for him, like he needed cleanliness of

643
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: a Moreno win. So I think they do this for

644
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: a fourth time, you know. I think Manel cop eventually

645
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: is going to factor in this equation. There's probably a

646
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: name or two that I'm forgetting, but very interesting stuff

647
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: in the UFC's flyweight division. All right, God, there's so

648
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: many performances we have to get to, Like we got

649
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: to get to Jack Della Madelena, and I just don't

650
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 4: know if we're going to get the time. Perth is

651
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: so far away from Miami. It gives me anxiety every

652
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: time I say Della Maddelena. I think about an itinerary

653
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 4: from Miami to La La and then a five hour

654
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: layover before Brisbane to Perth. It's like thirty six hours

655
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: door to door, all right, Uh, Michelle Paeda over Andre

656
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: Fialio by unanimous decision.

657
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: I mean this could have been the fight of the

658
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 5: night as well.

659
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: A lot of blood, a lot of high level technique,

660
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 4: a lot of heart, grit, glory, guts, ken flow.

661
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 5: What do you got for me? On the feature about it?

662
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: Away?

663
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 5: For that was a fun fight.

664
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: Man.

665
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: Again, we we we had talked about, uh, the potential

666
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 5: uh for for this fight and how exciting it probably

667
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 5: was going to be and men wasn't listen. Perea for

668
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 5: me really impressed me. I thought that, you know, coming

669
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 5: back off to that first round, you know, we were

670
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 5: going to find out what he was all about. And

671
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 5: we found out that this guy, he's got a lot

672
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 5: of heart. He made the proper adjustments. He still stayed aggressive,

673
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 5: He's he kept that aggression, but he just fought a

674
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 5: little bit smarter and did what he needed to do.

675
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 5: Was really attacking the body again with those front kicks,

676
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 5: which was a thing of beauty. Uh, those blitzing attacks

677
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 5: and kept Bilio from from pressuring him and he was

678
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: backing up Philly out, which I thought was brilliant, So

679
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 5: I thought those adjustments were critical. I think it's going

680
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 5: to be a key fight in his evolution as a fighter.

681
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: He is a phenomenal athlete man, the way that he

682
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 5: moves and how fast he is as a welterweight. I mean,

683
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 5: there are very few bantam weights that are as fast

684
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 5: as he is. Truly, I mean, his speed is phenomenal

685
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 5: to watch. Maybe not the most powerful guy as far

686
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 5: as knockout power, but it's speed that kills and his

687
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 5: variety in his weapons and how he does it is phenomenal.

688
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 5: He still needs to shore up his defense when it

689
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 5: comes to grappling. That needs to be sharper, it needs

690
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: to be better. But the fact that he was able

691
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: to deal with that pressure make the adjustments. I think

692
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 5: this was a critical point in his career for him

693
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: to gain confidence and momentum moving forward yet again and

694
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 5: awesome fight. Awesome fight.

695
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: I'm really happy for Michelle Preta again. Another good guy.

696
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: He gets to know these guys in the fighter meetings.

697
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: Four straight wins for him, and you know he really

698
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: embraces the spotlight and fight night and he sort of

699
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: says to us in a humble moment he's like, I'm

700
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: celebrating the end of training camp, motherfuckers. Right, Like when

701
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm walking out Hayes in the barn, the hard work

702
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 4: is done, Like I'm celebrating that I get to go

703
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 4: showcase my skills. Now, in terms of doing that, I'd

704
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: like to see him highlight chase a little bit less.

705
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: And I don't know if he's ever going to be

706
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: able to chase those stripes. But there was a time

707
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: in this fight where he landed some bombs with his

708
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: hands on Fi Alio. He had him sort of crumbling

709
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: his way up against the fence and he chooses to

710
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: throw a flying knee, and if he just stays with

711
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: the hands there, I think he gets his knockout. So

712
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: I think there are moments where he has guys on

713
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 4: the ropes and then for some reason, you know, he

714
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 4: wants to do a you know, he wants the knockout

715
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 4: by cartwheel kick or something.

716
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: You know.

717
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 5: So I do think that.

718
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 4: He he needs to stop highlight chasing, butter or not,

719
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: no complaints, he's outside.

720
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 5: I think that's a great point. I think that was

721
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 5: really what plagued him early on in his UFC career. Right,

722
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 5: It's still with him. I think it's what makes him

723
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 5: so dangerous, you know, having that flash or having that

724
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 5: you know, allure of being a little bit fancy when

725
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 5: he doesn't necessarily need to need to. So yeah, I

726
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 5: mean some more fundamentals should have come into the play,

727
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 5: come into play there. But I don't know. It's hard

728
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 5: to put a leash on a guy like that. I

729
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 5: think you have to because you have to allow that

730
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 5: creativity and that flash to come out because that's who

731
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: he is. But I agree there were times where if

732
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 5: you just kind of sat down on his punch and

733
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 5: threw a right cross, he would have got the knockout.

734
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 5: So yeah, he's got to go back watch some footage

735
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 5: with his with his coaches and see what is going

736
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 5: to be the best approach in those moments. Yeah, you

737
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: put it well.

738
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: I mean there are two things for me in that moment, right,

739
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: energy expenditure long term, how much does it take out

740
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: of you to throw a flying knee versus throw a punch?

741
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 4: And then the percent chance that it lands. Like you're

742
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 4: giving Thialio a chance to and I love Andre too,

743
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: but it's like you're giving him a chance to get

744
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: back in the fight because there's probably a fifteen percent

745
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: chance that that flying knee lands right on the button.

746
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: It's like a switch up, fucking high level, high degree

747
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: of difficulty move.

748
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 5: I think it's a It's a great point, dude. And also,

749
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 5: like against a guy like Philio, like what happens if

750
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 5: he comes back into the fight, Like you missed that opportunity.

751
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 5: He's too dangers of a guy and his jupit of

752
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: a gin to let him back into the fight. So

753
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 5: when you have guys hurt like that, you want to

754
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 5: make sure that they're not able to get back into

755
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 5: the fight. Yeah.

756
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So there were a lot of people who were

757
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: bullish on both sides of this bout between Sai nrmago

758
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: Metov and Cody Stamen Blao Muhammad on these very airwaves

759
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 4: on remember the show, thought this was Nirmago Medov easy,

760
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: you know, and not because his last name was Nirmago Medov.

761
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 4: Right then on the other side, he got handicappers every

762
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: which way, trotting out Cody Staman plus one seventy my god,

763
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: a lot of angles to what was a very quick

764
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: forty seven second fight. I know Stamen is massively disappointed

765
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: in terms of this result and his ex cution, but

766
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 4: said Hermago Metov is a fucking g bonus. He'd been

767
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: out a while, so he's sort of the forgotten man

768
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 4: a little bit in the bandamweight division. And I can't

769
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: wait to see what, uh what Shelby or Maynard or

770
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: whomever does with him next, because he is a problem.

771
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 5: He's a problem. He's a big time problem. You know

772
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 5: he Uh. I love his style, you know, his ability

773
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: to go out there and both have to be fundamentally

774
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 5: sound and to have that flash and to go out

775
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: there and finish you in a variety of ways. Like

776
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: if you're if you're a guy who's gonna fight him next,

777
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 5: and you look, you're looking at that last fight against

778
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 5: Cody Stable and you're like, right, how how am I

779
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 5: going to beat that guy? He didn't do that to

780
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 5: some guy making his UFC debut. He did that against

781
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 5: Cody Staman, dude, a guy who has been around the

782
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: block and back, a guy who's a very good wrestler.

783
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 5: He knows his submission game. He's a dangerous striker as well.

784
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 5: Uh and he made it look easy man like that.

785
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 5: That was easily Sayed's best performance of his career. He

786
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 5: is summoned to watch. I don't think there's a whole

787
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 5: lot of guys lining up to fight that guy right now.

788
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: I mean, boy, did he deliver Just incredible, just incredible.

789
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cody Stamon was nineteen four and one going in

790
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: bandam weight is just on fire.

791
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 5: I mean, my goodness.

792
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 4: You know, there have been times in the past where

793
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: people have talked about doing special cards where you would

794
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: just have you know, the whole main card would be

795
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: bandamweight fights, and I believe Joe Silva did it one time,

796
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 4: if memory serves UFC one forty six with the all

797
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 4: heavyweight main card. Yep, I think it was mere Dos

798
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 4: Santos in the main event. But gosh, go look at

799
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 4: the top twenty or so at one hundred and thirty

800
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 4: five pounds, it's absolutely insane. So on a night in

801
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: which four fighters from Brandon Moreno's and Trim Jim competed,

802
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: the only one to win was twenty two year old

803
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: Michael Morales out of Ecuador, ended up being a pickham

804
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 4: fight at close against Trevin Giles, who was a divisional

805
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 4: new and Morales is really an interesting story. Wrestling chops,

806
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 4: both parents, judo black belts lifelong martial artists but still

807
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: just twenty two. Got an opportunity to leave Ecuador, move

808
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: to Tijana, join the entrum. Jim got the opportunity, packed

809
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: and left the next day. He's been there for a year.

810
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: This was a really difficult test, I thought for a

811
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: UFC debut kicking off a pay per view, and man,

812
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 4: did he pass this test with flying colors. It's amazing

813
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: to see somebody at twenty two years old come in

814
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 4: and maximize the showcase like this.

815
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: It's awesome, you know. Again, I have the opportunity to

816
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 5: see those guys work together. They are super close, the

817
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 5: whole team. They're all pushing each other. They're all extremely

818
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: motivated individuals who are training hard two three times a day,

819
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 5: and they believe in the system that they're in, you know.

820
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: And of course with Brandon Moreno as well, former champion

821
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 5: now leading the way, they know they have the right blueprint,

822
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 5: the right game plan to move forward and and rise

823
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 5: up those ranks in the UFC. So they really have

824
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: put together a great camp. I'm not surprised by that result. Uh,

825
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 5: he's been working hard and awesome to see.

826
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: By the way, how about Brandon Moreno, since you just

827
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: brought him up again, owning that loss like right away.

828
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: Right While so much of the fan base is like, man,

829
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 4: you won that fight, He's like, yeah, maybe he landed

830
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 4: the more powerful shots. It's pretty rare, I think, to

831
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: see a guy own like a close championship loss in

832
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: that moment the way he did.

833
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: Dude, what what made what makes Brandon great is the

834
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 5: fact that he's always improving. Uh you don't get better

835
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 5: unless you're looking at yourself, unless you're really analyzing and

836
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 5: being critical and having good people around you that are

837
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 5: telling you what you're doing wrong in the fight. And

838
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 5: uh Moreno is a humble dude. He comes from, you know,

839
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 5: a place where he had to work hard for everything,

840
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 5: and he'll be able to see things like that with clarity.

841
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 5: And I think the fact that he's saying that immediately

842
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 5: after the fight says a lot about who he is.

843
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 5: And I expect to continue to see a better Brandon

844
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 5: Morano next time out.

845
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: And you really got to be careful suggesting that a

846
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: fighter is over confident, especially if you're me the non athlete,

847
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 4: you know, it does too confident sound softer. I just

848
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: think he just did not think there was a man

849
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: in the world at one hundred and twenty five pounds,

850
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: that could beat him, and you know, he's so sort

851
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 4: of buoyed by the fact that he can't be finished.

852
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: You know, I just think there's this aura of invincibility

853
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: and I think this is gonna be good for Brandon Moreno.

854
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 4: But yeah, they got to fight for a four time.

855
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: All right, Cody's telling me not to short change Victor Henry.

856
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I mean, did you watch the postfight show.

857
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 4: He's my new favorite fighter La Mangosta the Mongoose, trained

858
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: under the great Josh Barnett. I mean, that's a memorable

859
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: UFC debut. Howoney, Barcelos has flirted with the rankings, beats

860
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: him thirty to twenty seven is like a plus three

861
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: seventy five underdog. Good on Victor Henry. What do you

862
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 4: make of the Southgate California product making good on the debut?

863
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 5: He wasn't on my radar he is now. Barcellos can wrestle,

864
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 5: he can strike, he has experience, and I did not

865
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 5: know what to expect really from Victor Henry. What I

866
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 5: saw in Victor Henry as a guy who was extremely

867
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 5: well schooled, who was very intelligent, who was slick and

868
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: calm under pressure. I came away extremely impressed because it

869
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: seemed to me like he knew exactly what he needed

870
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 5: to do in the right moments. He was making the

871
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 5: proper adjustments, yet he was never getting shut down through

872
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 5: that analysis. He would push back forward, he would land

873
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 5: the shots that he needed to do land in order

874
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 5: to win around and just making all the right decisions.

875
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: To me, it seemed like he was a guy with

876
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: fifteen twenty fights in the UFC. You don't see guys

877
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 5: make a UFC debut like that and do it against

878
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 5: an experience killer like Barcellos, And it was almost like

879
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 5: very matter of fact, like he's like, that's what I

880
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 5: expected to do onto the next let's go. So brilliant performance.

881
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 5: Josh Barnett a very intelligent guy who, of course has

882
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 5: fought at the highest levels all over the world. I'm

883
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 5: not necessarily surprised by that that they can produce guys

884
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 5: like that, but I think they've kind of coached each

885
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 5: other over the years. So again, awesome to see Victor

886
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 5: Henry's a guy to watch man. Awesome performance.

887
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 4: So the action man Chris Curtis. I think it took

888
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 4: him twenty six wins to get to the UFC. It

889
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: took Victor Henry twenty one wins to get to the UFC,

890
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 4: so to speak. But you could argue that if Chris

891
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 4: Curtis had gotten to the UFC in twenty fifteen, then

892
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 4: maybe he wouldn't still be in the UFC. When he

893
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 4: got there, he was ready to beat guys like Phil

894
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: Hawes and Brendan Allen. I don't know about Victor Henry.

895
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: You know, I kind of feel like maybe he would

896
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 4: have been ready, you know, three four years ago, and

897
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: he just sort of was calm about the fact that

898
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 4: eventually he was going to get to the UFC. But like,

899
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 4: how does someone like you, who three times fought for

900
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: a UFC title like quantify Victor Henry ceiling at bantamweight now?

901
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: Because you know, Rogan pulled off the cans and was like,

902
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: what's Barcelos's rank? And I'm like he's not ranked, and

903
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: He's like what, like so, like, how good can Victor

904
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 4: Henry be? And like rhetorically, I'd asked, like, why.

905
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: Wasn't he in the UFC already? You know, dude, Victor

906
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 5: Henry can absolutely be an elite uh, you know, bantamwaight

907
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 5: bantamwaight right, yeah, yeah, here, sorry, okay, I'm gonna make

908
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 5: sure I got that right. Uh yeah, No, Victor Henry

909
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 5: is the guy who probably could have been in the

910
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 5: UFC earlier. But John, the most common question I get

911
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 5: is how many fights should I have? When do you

912
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 5: think is the right time for me to be in

913
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 5: the UFC? And I always say probably five fights after

914
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 5: you think you should be in the UFC is usually

915
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 5: my answer, because getting that experience outside of the UFC

916
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 5: is huge. You want to be ready to go straight away.

917
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 5: So you know, I think for Victor Henry, he is

918
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 5: clearly ready. He was ready for the for the bright

919
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 5: lights of the UFC. He was ready for Barcelos. And

920
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 5: this is a guy that I will not be surprised

921
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 5: if he's the top ten, top five guy in the

922
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 5: bantaweight division. I think he's that good. And especially again

923
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 5: that this his UFC debut, came away very impressed.

924
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 4: All right, Well, good news is ray Longo has answered

925
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 4: the wake up call for ten thirty am Eastern on

926
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 4: a Monday. Now, if you don't know, ray Longo worked

927
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: extensively with Matt the Steamroll of for Vola during his

928
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 4: fourteen week training camp. I mean, Ravola has had all

929
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: these crazy circumstances in his UFC career, losing opponents left

930
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 4: and right short notice. Right he was supposed to fight

931
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 4: opmana etar, and always getting switched up. They're always giving

932
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: him leftis on short notice when he prepares for Righty's.

933
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: But this time around, he had fourteen weeks and he

934
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: worked with Longo extensively on shoring up his defense and

935
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: movement and everything else. And then Longo camp passes COVID test.

936
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: So if you didn't see Longo in the corner, I

937
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: was trying to figure out, because he had worked so

938
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 4: closely with Ray over the last fourteen weeks, how I

939
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: was going to softly mention this on the broadcast, And

940
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 4: so I think what I said was that Longo wasn't

941
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 4: able to get past the COVID test. So unfortunately he's

942
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 4: not here. Ray, it's great to see you on.

943
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 5: A Monday morning.

944
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard me say that on

945
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: the broadcast, but I with my messaging, good to see it.

946
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: Oh, definitely listen this phone. This one was really mild. Man.

947
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 6: I'll be honest with you, but uh, you know, it's funny.

948
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 6: I had gone. Monday, I go to get my COVID test.

949
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 6: I get the PCR and it comes back Tuesday negative.

950
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 6: So I sent it to Fravola. I'm on my way,

951
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 6: O say Monday, I got it at two o'clock. They

952
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 6: put an expedite on it. It came back negative. But

953
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 6: Monday night my throat started feeling a little bad. And

954
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 6: I had a bunch of buddies who had it that

955
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 6: said the throat is like it's on fire.

956
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: It sucks, you know.

957
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 6: But so I'm like, oh man, so I attack it

958
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 6: right away, not with anything crazy, just like use the

959
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 6: next flown a's whatever I get. You know, I got,

960
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 6: and I don't go in Tuesday. Let me just play

961
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 6: it safe. I got to get on a plane Thursday,

962
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 6: and then it's yeah, on a scale of one to two,

963
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 6: it's mild.

964
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 3: It's like a two maybe.

965
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 6: So I'm like, what, let me just take the rapid

966
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 6: test in because I don't want it because I'm not vaccinated.

967
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 6: So I'd have to get tested when I got there

968
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 6: so I could screw.

969
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: Up the kids fight.

970
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 4: He had a lot of shit already when it comes

971
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: to that, so like we can.

972
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 6: It's just the issue. So now I'm panicking. I'm like,

973
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 6: I can't. I want to fund it. He did have

974
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 6: a great camp, you know, not that I'm not saying extensively,

975
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 6: but I was with this guy long enough to we

976
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 6: had it.

977
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: We had a good time this camp.

978
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 6: I mean, I really enjoyed his craziness and he's just

979
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 6: a great kid. But anyway, so now I'm testing positive

980
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 6: with the rapid test Wednesday, I test positive Thursday. I go,

981
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 6: let's just can we switch my flight to Friday because

982
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 6: I don't feel bad.

983
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 3: I just now my throat's even gone.

984
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 6: The throat lasts for like a day maybe, and then

985
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 6: that's gone. And I'm like, I don't know, but let's

986
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 6: just say what the problem is that if I was vaccin,

987
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 6: I'm at the fight and I'm spreading COVID for sure,

988
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 6: because I didn't feel bad, you know what I mean,

989
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 6: that's the issue. I don't know what the fuck California

990
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 6: was doing. So I would have been good if I

991
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 6: was vaccinated. I already got my test, I was getting

992
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 6: on the plane, you know, if I just you know,

993
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 6: I just because of what's happened to Frovola, I was

994
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 6: extra careful, and I go, I can't I can't do this,

995
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 6: And then I had to call him and go, look, man,

996
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 6: we got a great camp, just do it.

997
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: And he's good with that. That's one thing.

998
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 6: Like he's really not a high maintenance type of guy.

999
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 6: He's just a nice kid. And he really, uh I'm

1000
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 6: not saying he got to show it, but he did

1001
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 6: tune up a lot of things, and he had great

1002
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 6: spa in the camp and people sort of difference, and

1003
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just happy for him because he was

1004
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 6: I think his back was against the wall. It was

1005
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 6: his last fight on his contract and he'd lost in

1006
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 6: a row, so I really don't want to, you know,

1007
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 6: take any chances with him. And he's like, again, he's

1008
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 6: a great kid. He's got a great wife, great family,

1009
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 6: the whole thing. So I'm glad it worked out good

1010
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 6: for I couldn't have been happy, you know, man.

1011
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: I Yeah, So I'm at the airport, bet on himself,

1012
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: hoping to get a new four fight contract from the UFC.

1013
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: My twin brother came out for UFC two seventy and

1014
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 4: when he was trying to decide whether or not to go,

1015
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: one of the things that actually pushed him over the

1016
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: edge was the fact that Longo was going to be there, so,

1017
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: needless to say, he was disappointed, as our viewers are

1018
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 4: right now because they can only see half your fucking face.

1019
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: I mean, do you mind? And I'm the asshole right right?

1020
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: Like like wait, Longo's not a dick for every week

1021
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 4: coming on here and refusing to sup his I'm the

1022
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 4: asshole for calling him out for it, right right?

1023
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 5: No, seriously, no, no, you're.

1024
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: Just the asshole. You don't have to call ye the

1025
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: way it is.

1026
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 6: I mean, look, there's three guys in the room. Somebody's

1027
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 6: got to be the assholes.

1028
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 5: That's right, right right, somebody's getting.

1029
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 4: By odds, the odds of life, absolutely perpetual.

1030
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 6: Wait me, let me just say something. I heard you

1031
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 6: talk about that kid, Henry fantastic. Let me tell you

1032
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 6: the way he was rolling big punches, absolutely phenomenal.

1033
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: Absolutely man, the fucking mongoose he did unbelievable. All right,

1034
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 4: So I want to ask you about Francis and Gano

1035
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 4: and Seattle gone.

1036
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 5: What didn't you make of the fight?

1037
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: And Uh, I'll lay out and let you talk.

1038
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: Uh, give me a hint. What do you want me

1039
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 3: to say?

1040
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 4: Oh, you want a more specific question?

1041
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: The guy look like you want me to say he

1042
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: look like Fred to Stare with his footwork. What do

1043
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 3: you want me to say, like got.

1044
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 4: A How surprised were you after two rounds?

1045
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 5: Don't? Yeah?

1046
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: That he that he fell on him and later on?

1047
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: What do you just aff me something specific? Was I

1048
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 3: I picked on to win by decision? Right?

1049
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 6: And if the guy didn't have the fight, I k

1050
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 6: have a clothes pin. He would have definitely won. What

1051
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 6: do you want me to say about the fight?

1052
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 5: Why did he go for that leg lock?

1053
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: Right?

1054
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 5: Why did he do it?

1055
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: Kenny? Let me tell you something on top and what Kenny?

1056
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: Come on, man?

1057
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 6: If I would have went absolutely ape shit and I'll

1058
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 6: tell you what happened. But yeah, first off, unless you're

1059
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 6: Kenny's guy Ryan.

1060
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: Hall, you just don't do that. He's the only guy

1061
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: that does it. That's it.

1062
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 6: Nobody else him, the other guy Paul Harris, remember him right, right?

1063
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: Yep? Yeah, that leg would have been gone.

1064
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, who's Tamaris? So here's the John Jones.

1065
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: If this is the apex of heavyweight fighting, I'm excited

1066
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 4: about it.

1067
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 5: Got some more records to break.

1068
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: So when I'm doing the post show and I see

1069
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 4: that tweet, right, if this is the apex?

1070
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 5: What is that fucking nice?

1071
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: You know, even even my dog thinks you're.

1072
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 5: Unbelievable.

1073
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 4: I actually almost called you before the show because, in

1074
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 4: all seriousness, I'm dealing with it like a rib and

1075
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 4: chest injury, and I was gonna call you and be like, hey, man,

1076
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 4: like if I don't laugh today, don't be sensitive because

1077
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: it just kills me every time I laugh. If this

1078
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: is the apex of heavyweight fighting, I'm excited about it.

1079
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 5: Like, that's a great fucking quote, is it not? That's

1080
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 5: a great quote.

1081
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm I can't argue with him. Look, let

1082
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 3: let's let me, let me, let me, let me say this.

1083
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: Francis was injured and it showed lucky. You agree with

1084
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: that or no?

1085
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 5: He wants to get a worded, He definitely does.

1086
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1087
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 5: Oh the dog is now on camera.

1088
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: What don't we do that? Why don't we do the

1089
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: interview like that?

1090
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 4: That's fine, keep talking, please, at least probably have the

1091
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 4: decency to center his Yeah.

1092
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 6: Look, look, Francis had a knee injury. John, I mean,

1093
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 6: there wasn't I don't even know if there.

1094
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: Was a punch landed standing up by uh, I don't know.

1095
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: It was just a.

1096
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 6: It was a I think John Jones. As much as

1097
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 6: I don't like him, I think he.

1098
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: Damn. I mean, I think he's got every what is

1099
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: going on today.

1100
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 4: If your public approval rating wasn't so high, I think

1101
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: some people would be like, all right, this is starting

1102
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 4: to get annoyed, you know, but they all love you.

1103
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 5: What the dog's name, Plucky.

1104
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 4: We're trying to do a podcast Lucky, like I get.

1105
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 5: Again, watch raised attention. He's not liking that ship.

1106
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might have to, I might have to get

1107
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: crazy over you.

1108
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 6: But anyway, so it was, you know, look for a

1109
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 6: heavyweight fight, you know, I think I like a Mike Tyson,

1110
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 6: you know, get moving his head, getting in there, swinging

1111
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 6: for the defences, go exciting.

1112
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 3: Just wasn't exciting. I don't I don't know it was.

1113
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,479
Speaker 3: It was. It was more than Cyril Gun lost that fight.

1114
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 6: That that's the problem, you know what I mean, Like

1115
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 6: she was the takedown stuff was was beautiful. Yeah, he'd

1116
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 6: be mixed that in h you know, we saw some

1117
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 6: high level grappling.

1118
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 3: In jiu jitsu on there, which was good. I mean,

1119
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: I mean, is this what you guys? Can I say

1120
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 3: anything and you'll just sit there and listen.

1121
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 5: Ah, Ray sarcasm was great. I come on, oh man, right,

1122
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 5: here's the problem is, you got on the show like

1123
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 5: around ten thirty, ten forty, and cranky Ray is the

1124
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 5: best Ray. We're gonna do this all the time. We're

1125
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 5: gonna wake you up every morning. Now.

1126
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 6: Oh no, I'm horrible right now, Kenny, this was bad.

1127
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 6: Plus it it was five days of some sort of

1128
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 6: sickness out.

1129
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 5: Okay, but yeah, I don't know.

1130
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 6: It reminds me of an old saying if a tree

1131
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 6: falls in a forest and nobody's there, like there's like

1132
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 6: two trees falling in a forest. Did you hear anything, John,

1133
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 6: I didn't hear anything.

1134
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 5: I didn't hear a thing. But Ray and down there

1135
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 5: was so sluggish and listless early that you could tell

1136
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 5: that he was afraid to really sit down on anything.

1137
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 5: Do you disagree, Yes.

1138
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 6: And I'm totally Look, I I did a fight breakdown.

1139
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 6: I said, Look, I think it's going to be like

1140
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 6: The Black Beast. I think it's a revisit but a

1141
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 6: little more exciting. Oh yes, that's what you did.

1142
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: Call that.

1143
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1144
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 6: And that's kind of to think the way it was,

1145
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 6: you know, and again, and I was like, I don't know, again,

1146
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 6: just ask me something specific.

1147
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 5: Way, how about that? How about this guy? How about this? Listen?

1148
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 5: Are you impressed with at least the fact that Francis right,

1149
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 5: we had never had to see him really use his

1150
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 5: grappling skill out there, right, and not that it was

1151
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 5: the prettiest thing in the world, but he got it done,

1152
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 5: and he did in a time where you know, he's

1153
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 5: in a big time contract dispute with the UFC. He

1154
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 5: had all that pressure in the world. Seemed like he

1155
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 5: tore his ACL and mcl is what I heard, So

1156
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 5: he was dealing with a lot of shit. The fact

1157
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 5: that he was able to pull this off, that's gonna

1158
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 5: be impressive though, right.

1159
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, one hundred percent. Now look look I'll get serious.

1160
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 6: So the fact that he was able to even change

1161
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 6: where you know, in the beginning of his career that

1162
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 6: wouldn't have happened.

1163
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 3: That was really good. But it does look.

1164
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 6: First of if I like Francis this is this has

1165
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 6: nothing to do. I'm just being I'm just trying to

1166
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 6: be entertaining. I'm not No, this is no bias or nothing.

1167
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 6: He's got you know, a good camp and great, great

1168
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 6: seems like a nice guy. It pains me that pit.

1169
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 6: I listened to his press conference, man, and just it's

1170
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 6: just not happy, like it's just it's.

1171
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: Not It just wasn't a good look like you know

1172
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's kind of sad to me.

1173
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 6: It wasn't the way a heavyweight fight should be where

1174
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 6: you're excited, you know, right, you know, I thought maybe

1175
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 6: it was gonna look like at one point during the fight,

1176
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 6: I thought it was gonna look like Wilder versus Fury,

1177
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. I thought this guy could

1178
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 6: you know, head movement and make him look bad and

1179
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 6: all of that stuff.

1180
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: You know, So Davidson, Figuretto and Brandon Moreno go the distance,

1181
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 4: you get up, perhaps get a grey goose and soda.

1182
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: Who do you think has won that fight?

1183
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 5: Or do you truly know?

1184
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: Man? That's that's tough.

1185
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 6: I mean I think it was I think uh Moreno.

1186
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 3: Said it. I think it was volume against impact, you know.

1187
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 6: I mean the other guy's shots just looked like they

1188
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 6: had more of an impact. So that's gonna be hard

1189
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 6: to judge against, you know. And it wasn't like it

1190
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 6: was crazy volume where he was way out in front

1191
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 6: of him and then that was happening, So, uh man,

1192
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 6: I like I like Brandon Moreno, I think they got

1193
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 6: the right guy.

1194
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. That was a tough one. I'd really

1195
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: have to go back and look at it.

1196
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 6: But those knockdowns did not look good, right, Nothing crazy

1197
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 6: happened on the floor. The scrambles were good, they were

1198
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 6: back up to their feet. That was a tough fight

1199
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 6: to judge. Many guy was landing the calf kicks. You know,

1200
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 6: that's a I think they got that one right.

1201
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 4: So we have never seen fighters compete four times against

1202
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 4: one another in the octagon, never mind doing it four

1203
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 4: times successively, right, even in past trilogies, I don't know

1204
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 4: that we've ever had guys fight each other three times

1205
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 4: in a row ken flow as we've had in this series.

1206
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 4: I think that's actually a fact. So what do you think?

1207
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: I mean, do you think they rebook these guys in

1208
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 4: like six months in Tijuana?

1209
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 5: Like, what do you think they do?

1210
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: I think that I think we're seeing a fourth fight.

1211
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 6: I think because no matter who won, I do think

1212
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 6: people want to see the fight, right, I mean that

1213
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 6: that's I would watch that fight again, yeah, and it's

1214
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 6: uh yeah, that was why who'd you guys think won

1215
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 6: that fight.

1216
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, I thought it was close.

1217
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: I thought it was close.

1218
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 5: I have no problem with Figuredo winning that fight. Yeah,

1219
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 5: you know, it's.

1220
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: One of it's one of those.

1221
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 4: My issue is that I would like to see all

1222
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 4: the ten ten language removed from the scoring. Just tell

1223
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: the judges you can't score around ten ten?

1224
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 5: What am I missing?

1225
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: Why do they need to have the right to score

1226
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 4: around ten ten?

1227
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 5: Right?

1228
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: Because judges are so discouraged from scoring around ten ten.

1229
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 4: It's almost like they're being threatened without being threatened. Like,

1230
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 4: if you score around ten ten, you're probably not getting

1231
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: asked back to the next show.

1232
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 5: They want you to pick a fucking winner.

1233
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 4: You're there to judge, So just take the language out,

1234
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: you know, because sometimes it's hard. Sometimes the rounds are

1235
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 4: so close and even though you're right, like the damage

1236
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: really should outweigh the volume, you know. But when you

1237
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 4: have a really close round, like in a five round fight,

1238
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 4: like a judge has to have the right to score

1239
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 4: around ten ten sal the amount of score round one

1240
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 4: and France has gone for Francis H.

1241
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 5: Cody didn't like that particular scorecard, all.

1242
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 6: Right, No, that's wrong, He was definitely up two zero

1243
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 6: going in there.

1244
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 5: So all right, anything else for us on you.

1245
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: Let's let's talk about how good at the steamroll it did.

1246
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 3: Holy trap. Yeah, the guy who was phenomenal.

1247
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 6: Absolutely, that's a guy that looked like he was fighting

1248
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 6: for his job.

1249
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: No, yeah, I got to meet his dad's now the

1250
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: bulldozer for all about He was the one who broke

1251
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 4: the news to me out your COVID nineteen positivity.

1252
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: Fucking bullshit, man.

1253
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 4: But no, I feel very happy for Matt. And it

1254
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: is amazing too. You see a guy at the airport, right,

1255
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 4: just a lack of glamour, and you know the guy

1256
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 4: wins a fight, absolute warrior, you know, hands and feet

1257
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 4: so swollen. You know, Billy Q and Matt Royo are

1258
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: going to Florida or wherever the fuck they're going New York, right,

1259
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 4: Billy Que probably went to Kansas City for the divisional

1260
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 4: playoff game. Right, but his dad's not around. He's got

1261
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 4: all his gear himself.

1262
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 5: You know. It's just it's an interesting thing, man, you know.

1263
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 4: You see these guys, you know, and I'm really happy

1264
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 4: for that because I see yeah.

1265
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I tell you like again, I had a

1266
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 6: really fun time with him this time. He is a

1267
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 6: he is a character, but what a what a sweet kid.

1268
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 6: It's just you know, I that almost got me. I

1269
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 6: almost went backwards because I thought I was gonna have

1270
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 6: a heart attack, and I'm sure I went out of

1271
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 6: my mind. And then I was like, holy maybe I

1272
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 6: wasn't ready for that type of emotional outburst.

1273
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 4: And I mean we talk about we gave Davison Figuretto

1274
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 4: a lot of credit earlier for just fighting maybe his

1275
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 4: instincts that are to fight in a more Frovola like way,

1276
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 4: and I think for Matt it's just hard right. He

1277
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 4: has such a passion for the exchanges. As Rogan always

1278
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 4: says that, you know his fights are I mean, he's

1279
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 4: a promoter stream but you know, seemingly always turning out

1280
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 4: this way.

1281
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 6: He's gonna put but he I do believe he's going

1282
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 6: to round the corner on that. He really showed so

1283
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 6: much improvement in the sparring and be impatient stuff like that.

1284
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 3: But he did get dragged into a little bit more of.

1285
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 6: A fight that we want to put that that look,

1286
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 6: that's the way that guy fights.

1287
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he comes forward. He's a crazy man. You know,

1288
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: he tries to push against the cage get to take that.

1289
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 3: I thy so we knew it.

1290
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 6: That's why I just wanted to footwork, maybe a little

1291
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 6: more footwork to fuse that, a fix that overnight.

1292
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 5: Hard to fix that all that's in his DNA, you know.

1293
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this was but we were but

1294
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: he was working for a long time. We did have

1295
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 3: a it was a long camp.

1296
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 6: So like it, you don't always have to be like,

1297
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 6: you know, like in camp, like I just made him

1298
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 6: go to the boxing class like for the first month,

1299
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 6: so where he couldn't do anything but really work on

1300
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 6: how to roll punches and you know, just isolate that

1301
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 6: part of it.

1302
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 3: And I think that really did him a world of good.

1303
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 3: I really do.

1304
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 6: I just really kind of broke it down and went

1305
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 6: right back to the basics. Didn't get complicated, because he

1306
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,479
Speaker 6: has a solid, solid right hand, solid right hand, and

1307
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 6: he's just got to be able to get it there

1308
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 6: without getting you know, hit hard himself.

1309
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 3: And that's what he's working on.

1310
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 6: I think he's going to be fine, man, because he's

1311
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 6: got a very complete game and he just calms down

1312
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 6: a little bit and picks his shots and makes guys

1313
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 6: miss a little.

1314
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: Bit right now and he's going to be a different guy.

1315
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can get ye out of.

1316
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 3: There, you know what I mean? He can get yeah

1317
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: with one punch.

1318
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 4: Valdez was an undefeated Mexican fighter, and obviously he's got

1319
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 4: to hell the shit on him in a bright future.

1320
01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: So that's a big win for mat for all. Anytime

1321
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: you can take a guys, Oh spoilers UFC debut, it's

1322
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 4: good stuff. All right, that's enough on the steamroll. I

1323
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 4: love the kid, but it's probably a good amount on him.

1324
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 4: What else you got? I was gonna say, I did

1325
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 4: say early. Do you know who has the most takedowns

1326
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 4: in UFC heavyweight history? If you don't know, it's Curtis Blades,

1327
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 4: That's who I'm giving Seattle Gone, no question about it.

1328
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 4: It gave me all sorts of strikers the game, Biggie boy, Jarzina,

1329
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 4: Rosenstrike gave Alexander Volkov.

1330
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 5: Give him Curtis Blades.

1331
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I agree with you.

1332
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 4: I mean, right, Kenny, I mean Dominic Cruz would always

1333
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 4: say right, like the way they they would methodically give

1334
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 4: him guys. You know, with the tests stylistically, skill wise

1335
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 4: that he had to pass on route to becoming a champion,

1336
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: and I think that's a test that's going to have

1337
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 4: to be passed. You know, I don't know, So I

1338
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: take it you don't like Cyril.

1339
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 5: No, I don't like. I want to like prove that

1340
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 5: he can. You know, why who do you like?

1341
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: Who do you like better? Who do you like better?

1342
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 3: Francis is Cyril?

1343
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 5: I don't pick favorites. I like them both better than

1344
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 5: your sabotage.

1345
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 6: The thing where I thought was a big mistake, and

1346
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 6: it could have been interpretation, I don't know, but when

1347
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 6: the corner was like, you can't lose this fight, you can't.

1348
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 6: I mean, that guy got if that was the case,

1349
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 6: I don't know this because the guy was speaking French.

1350
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 6: But if that was the case, he was way too

1351
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 6: emotional in that fight, and that could have been a problem.

1352
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 6: You know, Kenny, what you because the guy whoever was

1353
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 6: doing the voiceover was like doing it in desperation, like

1354
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 6: there was no you can't lose this.

1355
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 3: You know, you could see this guy was so.

1356
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 7: Lives depend on it. Imagine you can't put that on

1357
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 7: your fighter. I mean imagine imagine how you.

1358
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 5: Need to do this. Yeah, for me, you know, it's like.

1359
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 3: You can this was not friends came up with this fight.

1360
01:04:51,400 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 4: Oh wahn, we congratulate Jack Della, Mattelena, Tony Gravelly, Vanessa

1361
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 4: Demopolis and Jasmine Jazz Divisius as well.

1362
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: How about wow, wait say those names again?

1363
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: Uh?

1364
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 4: Oh, you like the pronunciation Jack, Della, Maddelena, Vanessa Demopolis,

1365
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 4: Jasmine Jazz Divisiis.

1366
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 3: It's all John. That is unbelievable. That is unbe to

1367
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 3: do a job.

1368
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 4: I'm amazed that people like and I'm not naming any names,

1369
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 4: but will will not even ask and just go on

1370
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 4: television and get them wrong.

1371
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 5: Happens every weekend. It does.

1372
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 3: Every every Monday morning with me. What are you insulting me? Now?

1373
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 3: From the whole podcast.

1374
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 4: That's the distinction, right, Look, we don't pay you to

1375
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 4: get the pronunciations correct, like for a broadcaster. You're paid,

1376
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 4: among other things. I would think to get the fighters

1377
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 4: names right. I don't know, Oh.

1378
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 3: John, I always said, look, you're a consummate professional. But

1379
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 3: wait aute.

1380
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 6: We also had our first stripper that got an on book, Kenny.

1381
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure that's not the first for you,

1382
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 6: but for the most of us that was.

1383
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 3: That was something new to Kenny. Let me tell you something.

1384
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 3: Holy crap, how does that go unnoticed? Man?

1385
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 6: That girl got cold cocked and then and then hit

1386
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 6: in the ground and pound was no joke either.

1387
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 5: And then I jumped in a split. I tore, I

1388
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 5: tore both of my grind. I tore three groins after that,

1389
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 5: when I saw that I was knock out.

1390
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: That was crazy.

1391
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 6: It was really crazy because because I do believe the

1392
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 6: other girl was motor boating her first before she got

1393
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 6: on but too. But I'm not sure. It was hard

1394
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 6: to see from the angle I was looking at, Joe.

1395
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 6: Maybe you picked that up.

1396
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I I think a lot of

1397
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 5: our listenership doesn't know that term motor boats.

1398
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: My goodness, give him more credit. Give give the loyal

1399
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 3: minute men more credit than you think.

1400
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the mini audience is skewing younger

1401
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 4: by the day.

1402
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 5: Ray, So.

1403
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 3: All right, then I'm in trouble to say, looking good, we.

1404
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 4: Have a treat or something we could give to the animal?

1405
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 5: Does he need to go outside? Is he gonna ship

1406
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 5: right now? On your lap?

1407
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: Okay?

1408
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 4: Well, hey, thanks for thanks for waking up early.

1409
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 5: How's that?

1410
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 4: How's Aljamaine Sterling doing? It looks as though perhaps Jacksonville, Florida.

1411
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 4: Is that what I'm hearing? That would mean I could

1412
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 4: rent a car and drive to the pay per.

1413
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 3: View April ninth, Jacksonville, Florida. Wow, I can't wait.

1414
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 5: That's exciting. You're gonna show up.

1415
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 6: Man, unless there's a new long.

1416
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: Isn't a joke? You know, this isn't a joke.

1417
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 6: But not for nothing but Longo's immunity to COVID jack ship.

1418
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 3: How's that natural?

1419
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 5: Right?

1420
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 3: I wonder if that helped.

1421
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1422
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 4: By the way, Pavola Will mentioned like long ago widman

1423
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 4: m m A, I was like so afraid to say

1424
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: anything that doesn't include Matt Sarah's names. Made sure to

1425
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 4: mention that he's got getting back in the gee with

1426
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 4: Matt Sarah right team Sarah long Ago. Make sure we

1427
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 4: don't offend anybody, you know.

1428
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, we're you know, we're in a very politically

1429
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 6: correct world if you haven't.

1430
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 5: Noticed, but uh you know, yeah, oh man, all right?

1431
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 3: What else? What's it? Well?

1432
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 5: No, I mean we got you watched the NFL yesterday,

1433
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely not got. You're missing out the most compelling.

1434
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 3: I'm missing out? What am I missing out on? This

1435
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 3: is bad? What else we got?

1436
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 5: Any other people are only calling it the best weekend

1437
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 5: of NFL football, And oh is that what.

1438
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 3: They're calling it?

1439
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1440
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 4: No, but uh, well, I asked you how Alja was doing.

1441
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 4: You didn't answer that question. You're asking me for more

1442
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 4: pointed questions. How do you have anything for us on

1443
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 4: al Jamaine Sterling as he gets ready to fight Pyodriyan

1444
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 4: for a second time, and training camps probably starting, I

1445
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 4: would think pretty soon here if if there indeed is

1446
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 4: a specific camp.

1447
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, he looked Uh, he looked good. I saw him briefly, Okay,

1448
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 6: but that was it. But I was under the weather.

1449
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 5: Certainly, his confidence does not seem to be phased one

1450
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 5: bit by the hand.

1451
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,919
Speaker 6: Now, you know, you're definitely not going to face his confidence.

1452
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 6: They think he made that pretty obvious the last.

1453
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 3: Year and a half.

1454
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Marob Dwallish Willie. I don't know if you

1455
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 4: saw the video of Morob on the treadmill like the

1456
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 4: warrior that he is. You know, here, I'm so debilitated

1457
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 4: with this rib injury. This dude's got a clavicle that

1458
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 4: is in the worst shape and he's doing, you know,

1459
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 4: twelve miles an hour uphill incline sprints on the tread well.

1460
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 3: You sure is x Ray. It's completely broken.

1461
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, looked like a clean break, but a mild you know,

1462
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 6: he's that guy from the Monthy Python movie.

1463
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 3: For all the young fans of mild flesh mooon Kenny.

1464
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't go head first to any ponds, any

1465
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 5: frozen ponds or lakes. Please, he is that. He is

1466
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 5: that guy you hit that. Well, all right, we got

1467
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 5: to get on out of here. Hey, thanks for your time.

1468
01:09:58,560 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 4: Oh you know what the last thing I did have

1469
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 4: for you today, right is you know, I hear this

1470
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 4: noise like, oh, you know, professional boxers, whether it's Jake

1471
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 4: Paul or someone else. You know, it's like, oh, they

1472
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 4: talk all this shit, but they won't come to MMA,

1473
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 4: And it's like, yeah, because there's wrestling and grappling. Like obviously,

1474
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 4: there have been MMA fighters that have been suggested to

1475
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 4: not go box, like Ben Askrin because the results won't

1476
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 4: be good, you know. But for most professional mixed martial

1477
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 4: arts athletes Kenny and Ray, boxing is a part of

1478
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 4: what they are doing, whereas wrestling and grappling is totally

1479
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 4: foreign to these other guys. So to me, it's like

1480
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 4: it's easy to say, like, yeah, why don't you. Why

1481
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 4: doesn't Tyson Fury come to MMA? And it's like fucking because, okay,

1482
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 4: Francis and Ghana has been wrestling and grappling for almost

1483
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 4: a decade, you know, so even though in gonna would

1484
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 4: be a massive underdog in a boxing setting, it's much

1485
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 4: easier to see why that would happen and why they

1486
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 4: wouldn't be MMA.

1487
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 5: You know.

1488
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think I agree with you on that. Man.

1489
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, I'd love to see it too. But

1490
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 4: James Tony we saw it well.

1491
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 6: I mean you got to remember. So it's and it's

1492
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 6: similar to wrestling, you see. You know the MMA guys

1493
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 6: going they do jiu jitsu matches, they do wrestling matches,

1494
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 6: they go outside of.

1495
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 3: M m A yeah, but it's those guys.

1496
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 6: A lot of jiu jitsu champions aren't jumping into MMA either,

1497
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 6: A lot of wrestling champs are.

1498
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 3: You know, it's just the way it is. You you

1499
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 3: you put that pretty nicely.

1500
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 4: Let me stop it, all right, Well, have a great day.

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Speaker 4: Cody just wrote to me in the private chat. You

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Speaker 4: can stretch, ja, don't rush. I think that's actually sarcasm.

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Speaker 5: I hope.

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01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 4: To stretch just to fucking feel air of that I

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01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 4: can show says it's that big Ken Flow's got a

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Speaker 4: fucking radio interview at eleven Eastern.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, John, don't John, John, don't excite yourself. You're hurt.

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01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 3: Don't make it any worse.

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01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 4: You're right, seriously, all right, Hey, I love you.

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Speaker 3: You guys are the best.

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01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 6: I really I'm pissed because I wanted to see it

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01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 6: to I was.

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01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 4: I was so upset, like I went out of my

1514
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 4: way to try to find sal the Bulldozer Provola, and

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01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 4: I didn't Friday. I was just assuming that you were

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01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 4: coming in late. So it ruined my whole day. But

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 4: we will catch up in Jacksonville, if not.

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Speaker 3: Soon, awesome, guys, all right, take it easy, I will

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Speaker 3: see you.

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Speaker 5: I'm You're rack.

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 4: His hair looks pretty good. Looks like you got a haircut.

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01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 4: Fucking dog.

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01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 5: All right. One thing I want to do today.

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01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 4: So you know, every year, I pick one team that

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 4: I think is going to win the Super Bowl, and

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 4: I place a fairly large bet on that team. Now,

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01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 4: this year, it just so happened to be one of

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01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 4: the New England Patriots foremost rivals. So this is a

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01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 4: ticket that I'm going to enjoy ripping up on the

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01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 4: Anakin Floran podcast today a little bit. I do feel

1531
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: bad for Mark Henry and Billy Corntello and the Bills

1532
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 4: fans because they were thirteen seconds away from beating the Chiefs,

1533
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 4: and I do think had they kicked the ball out

1534
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 4: of the end zone late, ran a few ticks, maybe

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01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 4: they win the game. So this from Circus Sports. This

1536
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 4: bet was placed on July eleventh, so I was out

1537
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 4: there for International Fight Week last year, four hundred and

1538
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 4: fifty dollars on the Buffalo Bills at twelve to one

1539
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 4: to win the Super Bowl, and they were one of

1540
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 4: the favorites for most of the season. And this ticket

1541
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 4: should still be alive. So it's four hundred and fifty

1542
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 4: dollars to win fifty four hundred, so total payout to

1543
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 4: collect fifty eight fifty or as my brother would say,

1544
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 4: total payout to collect is fucking zero. So if you're

1545
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 4: if you're just listening, you're not gonna see this. But

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01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 4: for the viewer, So there's the ticket twelve to one,

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01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 4: four hundred and fifty bucks cost. They were gonna host

1548
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 4: the AFC Championship against the Cincinnati Bengals. Had they won

1549
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 4: that football game last night, and I think we're probably

1550
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 4: gonna win six cheeks. Dan rimp it out again, works

1551
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 4: it out, and you can be sure, at whatever price,

1552
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 4: I'll be betting on the Buffalo Bills next year.

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01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 5: We'll try to take them down again. I used to

1554
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 5: question your motives here, you know you used to do

1555
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 5: You've been doing this for years. But it's so smart

1556
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 5: because you win every single time. John. You either you're

1557
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 5: happy that they lose, or you make yourself some money

1558
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 5: and you get a little win for the Patriots. I

1559
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 5: mean not in this case, but you know, you see

1560
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 5: one of the rivals go down. I love it. I

1561
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 5: think it's brilliant.

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01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 4: Well, thank you man, and you're right, like I do

1563
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 4: soften the blow of a Patriot's loss. But the craziest

1564
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,879
Speaker 4: bet that I've ever placed, and people think this is insane.

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01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 3: Right.

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01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 4: So, when the Patriots came back to beat the Falcons

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01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 4: in that Super Bowl, right, So, the Falcons were up

1568
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 4: twenty eight to three, right, sports books, I didn't even

1569
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 4: think they would be offering a live bet on the

1570
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 4: Falcons to win because they were up twenty eight to three.

1571
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 5: It was late in the second half.

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01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 4: So I put five hundred dollars on the Falcons at

1573
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 4: that point in time to win twenty seven dollars, So

1574
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 4: that just shows you how pathetic amazing that at that

1575
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 4: point in time, I felt like, you know, I'm trying

1576
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 4: with twenty seven dollars, I'm trying to take the Falcons down.

1577
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 4: Felt like the only way I could do it. I

1578
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 4: made a five hundred dollars deposit online and to pay

1579
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 4: twenty seven.

1580
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 5: And of course I lost that bet, I'd really but

1581
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 5: it worked. The Patriots won. So yeah, all right, next week,

1582
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 5: very excited for this.

1583
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 4: We will certainly get a predictions on UFC Fight Night

1584
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 4: for February fifth from James Krause and Kenflow. But it's

1585
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 4: our intern sweepstake. So next week we are gonna play

1586
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Speaker 4: all of your video submissions. Everybody knows who they are.

1587
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 4: Kenny and I will not see your videos until we

1588
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 4: see them live on the air. You've all been given

1589
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 4: sixty seconds. If you haven't submitted, better get on that.

1590
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 4: And then the three of us are gonna vote. Kenny,

1591
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 4: Cody and I are all gonna come up with the

1592
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 4: top three, and then we're gonna determine who is the

1593
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Speaker 4: winner of the twenty twenty two antikin Floring Podcast intern sweepstakes,

1594
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Speaker 4: so that is coming up next Monday, January thirty first.

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow has been working for a long time on

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Speaker 4: his jiu Jitsu Essentials video that is now up on

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Speaker 4: his YouTube channel, which is directly linked to the antikinp

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Speaker 4: Floring podcast YouTube channel right here. Also, don't forget remember

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Speaker 4: the show back in your lives this Thursday night. Merchandise

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Speaker 4: is still going strong at the Antikinploring podcast or you

1601
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Speaker 4: can go to anti florin podcast dot com. And thank

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Speaker 4: you all for supporting the One More Sleep movement. We

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Speaker 4: got on a billboard in Times Square, Kenflow, I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you're selling your pots, but only because people

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Speaker 4: supported the One More Sleep movement. Like we started selling

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Speaker 4: merchandise at Millions dot co and we ended up being

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Speaker 4: one of the top three sellers in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: That's awesome. So we got on the billboard.

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Speaker 4: In Times Square and it's only because of the MMA

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Speaker 4: fan base, whom I'm eternally grateful for their support. So

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Speaker 4: thank you guys very much. Outsold Bruce Buffer. You know

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Speaker 4: Buff's coming up to me. It's like, hey, Millions, did

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Speaker 4: you solid put you on time square. I said, we

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Speaker 4: did ourselves a fucking solid throwing one more sleep merchandise.

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Speaker 4: Don't be doing anything shit is.

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Speaker 5: By the way, kudos again to Bruce Buffer not throwing

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Speaker 5: down with Frank Tregan and they. I thought it was

1618
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 5: gonna get ugly, dude, I thought it was. Those guys

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Speaker 5: have a history. And when you when you tweeted that, bro,

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Speaker 5: I'm like bro dying over here.

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: I saw that tweet absolutely golden stuff, a normally hostile

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01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 4: kent fall on. All right, we were back with you

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Speaker 4: next Monday, intern Sweepstakes and of course a preview of

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Speaker 4: the UFC fight. Now, what's that main event? Jacker Manson

1625
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 4: and Sean Strickland? Is that the next one? Excited about that?

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Speaker 5: All right? Thanks to our producer Cody Merrow.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to Ray Longo lighting up the program as usual

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Speaker 4: for kemp Plum John, and we will talk to you

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