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Speaker 1: Welcome to good Game with Sarah Spain, where we can't

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Speaker 1: stop looking at photos and videos of Wilma Jean Wrinkles

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Speaker 1: celebrating Rose levels one hundred caps at the US women's

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Speaker 1: national team game on Wednesday. On today's show, we'll be

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Speaker 1: battling whatever the hell evil virus is inhabbiting my body

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Speaker 1: while talking all things college volleyball with Emily Emont, former

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Speaker 1: Northwestern libero and current broadcaster, reporter and producer. Plus some

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Speaker 1: puppy love. It's all coming up right after this Welcome

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Speaker 1: back slices. Here's what you need to know today. In soccer,

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Speaker 1: the US women's national team wrapped up the international window

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Speaker 1: against Argentina on Wednesday night. Center Back Naomi Germa scored

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Speaker 1: three nail win, with Argentina also contributing an own goal.

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Speaker 1: The US women's national team debuted a time totally new lineup,

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Speaker 1: with only three regulars starting the game, and goalkeeper Mandy

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Speaker 1: earning their first caps at the same time and of

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Speaker 1: the game, Rose level was honored for her one hundredth cap,

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Speaker 1: which she achieved back in June, and she made sure

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Speaker 1: her English bulldog, will Ma Jean Wrinkles got her shine too.

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Speaker 1: Wilma showed up in Louisville wearing noise canceling headphones and

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Speaker 1: roses number sixteen Jersey Even head coach Emma Hayes shouted

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Speaker 1: to be honored quote in front of her family, most

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Speaker 1: importantly in front of Wilma. In NWSL news, it's officially

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Speaker 1: the last weekend of the regular season and teams are

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Speaker 1: still fighting for position in the playoffs. The top eight

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Speaker 1: bottom of the table. The number seven, eight and number

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Speaker 1: nine teams Portland Thorns, BFC and Racing Louisville are fighting

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Speaker 1: their destinies. Both teams secure a spot with a win

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Speaker 1: door opens for Racing Louisville to nab that last spot.

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Speaker 1: If Bay loses and Louisville wins. Louisville is in full stop.

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Speaker 1: Portland's currently beating Racing Louisville by three in goal differential,

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Speaker 1: so if Portland loses and Louisville wins, Racing also needs

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Speaker 1: gap in advance. Wait, there's still more. The Washington Spirit, GOTHAMFC,

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Speaker 1: and Kansas City Current have all clinched spots, but they

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Speaker 1: weekend goes. And the Chicago Red Stars. That club sits

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Speaker 1: as the eighth spot. It's a lot, we know, which

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Speaker 1: is why we're going to link to our fave data

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Speaker 1: viz wiz Alison Gale's playoff scenario breakdowns in our show notes.

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Speaker 1: All the action starts tonight with GOTHAMFC paying a visit

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Speaker 1: to the Utah Royals at nine to thirty pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: on NWSL Plus and Portland hosting Angel City at ten

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Prime V. On Saturday, we got three games.

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Speaker 1: We'll be paying special attention to BAFC at the Houston

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Speaker 1: Dash on Ion at nine thirty pm Eastern and Finally,

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, two games, including a potentially pivotal matchup between

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Alexa Philippoo reported that New York Liberty stars Sabrina

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Speaker 1: in our show notes. In volleyball News, we got a

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Speaker 1: huge matchup on deck tonight between number two Nebraska and

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Speaker 1: that game with Emily Emon in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, a pretty cool moment for the Wisconsin squad.

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Speaker 1: Ahead of that game, Vice President Kamala Harris spent some

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Speaker 1: and a great time to remind you once again to

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Speaker 1: She's a diehard Hoosiers fan, a Southern barbecue plate, hates

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Speaker 1: What's up, Emily? I good.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to be here. That was heck of an intro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw those pictures of those barbecue plates and

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Speaker 1: but things have already changed so much in the college

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Speaker 1: The growth of volleyball has been exponential. It's crazy thinking

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Speaker 2: The growth that this sport has seen is astronomical. From

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Speaker 2: And then from an attendance standpoint, I mean, we're breaking

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Speaker 2: season Nebraska volleyball packed ninety two thousand people into a

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Speaker 2: It's been happening at every single school. It feels like

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Speaker 2: tournament has become a bigger deal with more coverage every

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the benefit of streaming more spaces for

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Speaker 1: which teams are this year's standouts.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's been so exciting. What's been really fun about

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Speaker 2: Stanford's been great. It's been really fun to see Creighton

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin has been doing a really good job as of late.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really fun to see a bit more parody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, that kind of approach is hard to do,

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Speaker 2: This is a program that in years past hasn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: They're coached again by one of who I think is

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Speaker 2: that say they want to play professionally, they want to

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Speaker 2: play for a league in the US, and they now

433
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Speaker 2: know this is an opportunity that either growing up or

434
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Speaker 2: even in high school, those opportunities didn't exist. And now

435
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: there's a clear trajectory of if you want to stay

436
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: in the sport, you know you can play for so

437
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 2: many years after college and stay in the US, which

438
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: is such a benefit to these players and kind of

439
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 2: I think it makes them more excited to play at

440
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 2: the college level because they're getting that exposure to these

441
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: leagues and saying, Okay, I want to play really well.

442
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 2: Of course for my teams, you know, to win a

443
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: title nationally like whatever it is, but also because you know,

444
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: I'm putting game film out now for these coaches and

445
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 2: scouts and people that are actually going to see it.

446
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Speaker 2: Whereas you know, if you want to go play in

447
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: Europe or Asia or another league overseas, it was really

448
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 2: hard to get connected right away, and you're probably unless

449
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: you're a top top player, which is normally not the

450
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: case coming out of college. You're playing on a team

451
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Speaker 2: that is probably pretty average. Maybe a handful of them

452
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Speaker 2: speak English. You might not be able to communicate with

453
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Speaker 2: your teammates, you might be halfway across the world the

454
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Speaker 2: time change that's in. It's not the most ideal situations.

455
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Speaker 2: A lot of college players have better resources than a

456
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Speaker 2: lot of professional players do, so just the conversations have

457
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: been really cool in eye opening to see these college

458
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: athletes now seeing that there's a path for them, and

459
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 2: watching it on TV and seeing it all over Twitter

460
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Speaker 2: and Instagram and all of these platforms. It has been

461
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: so so cool, even just in the last two seasons,

462
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Speaker 2: to see that as an option for these players.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, NIL allows for the promotion of

464
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Speaker 1: players starting at the collegiate level. We get to hear

465
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Speaker 1: about them and see them, which then helps them try

466
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Speaker 1: to hopefully carry that brand over into the pros. It

467
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Speaker 1: also helps professionalized college players, so young athletes get to

468
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Speaker 1: see players at the college and professional level in advertisements

469
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Speaker 1: on television, in social media. How do you see or

470
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Speaker 1: do you see I guess youth players training differently. We

471
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Speaker 1: were just talking about this at the espnW Summit. High

472
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Speaker 1: school college or basketball players learning how to dunk and

473
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Speaker 1: trying to train to see the things that they're seeing

474
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Speaker 1: at the higher levels that didn't really exist the same

475
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Speaker 1: way in the past because it wasn't visible at the

476
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Speaker 1: highest levels. Is the volleyball actual game changing as a

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Speaker 1: result of you being able to see more of the

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Speaker 1: upper level players.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure it changes just the way that

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Speaker 2: these players are learning about the game. For example, when

481
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Speaker 2: I was growing up, you know, there were a handful

482
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Speaker 2: of matches on TV. I remember watching Nebraska and Penn

483
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Speaker 2: State play every year, or of course I was watching,

484
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Speaker 2: you know, the national semifinals in the National Championship, but

485
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Speaker 2: there wasn't a way to really watch the sport the

486
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Speaker 2: same way that little boys grow up and watch NFL

487
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Speaker 2: or you know, the MBA, or now players have access

488
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Speaker 2: to the Wnbabor college basketball. It's very different in volleyball

489
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Speaker 2: because you don't have a way to learn about the

490
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Speaker 2: sport other than playing. So if you're playing a bunch

491
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Speaker 2: of twelve year olds, you know, you only know as

492
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Speaker 2: much as the other twelve year old next to you,

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Speaker 2: Whereas now these young players have the ability to watch

494
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Speaker 2: the sport and you know, have analysts and studio people

495
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Speaker 2: break it down for them. And explain to them what's

496
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Speaker 2: happening on the court and what they're seeing, which you know,

497
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Speaker 2: the more you watch something, the more you're going to

498
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Speaker 2: retain and the more you're going to learn about it.

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Speaker 2: So I think just the level and that volleyball IQ

500
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Speaker 2: that young players are having is probably exponentially better than

501
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Speaker 2: like when I was playing and growing up, because again,

502
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Speaker 2: I was learning from the twelve, thirteen, fourteen year olds

503
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Speaker 2: that I was playing next to. There wasn't anybody to

504
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Speaker 2: watch and really break it down for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of strange, but I also feel

506
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Speaker 1: like I'm watching women's college, professional, every level. Really, athletes

507
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Speaker 1: of every sport have a different kind of swagger when

508
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Speaker 1: they play, and it's not just performative and fun to watch,

509
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Speaker 1: but I think it trickles down to the larger like

510
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Speaker 1: your confidence in yourself, your willingness to go all out,

511
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Speaker 1: your desire to be competitive. You're not worried about being

512
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Speaker 1: nice and friendly. You want to win, and being able

513
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Speaker 1: to witness that at the highest levels across women's sport now,

514
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Speaker 1: I think allows younger athletes to be more committed and

515
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: passionate and determined than before, where we didn't used to

516
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Speaker 1: see women that way anywhere, and we just used to

517
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Speaker 1: only see like male athletes behaving that way. And I

518
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Speaker 1: love watching the swagger. I love watching women athletes have

519
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Speaker 1: the same kind of reactions to their big plays and

520
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: get the crowd involved and get people to like hype

521
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Speaker 1: them up. Like all of that is a part of

522
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Speaker 1: a larger, I think transformation of women's sport, beyond some

523
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Speaker 1: of the rules or the expectations for women their behaviors

524
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Speaker 1: in the past. Women's volleyball in the US is bigger

525
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Speaker 1: than men's, Like there are more people watching college, there

526
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Speaker 1: are more professional opportunities. Women is sort of the default

527
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Speaker 1: for the US when it comes to volleyball, and yet

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Speaker 1: there are still cases where we see it sort of

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Speaker 1: as a stepping stone. Last week, USA Volleyball announced that

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Speaker 1: Karch Karai, who coached the US women to three state

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Speaker 1: Olympic medals, is taking over as head coach of the

532
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Speaker 1: men's national team for the twenty twenty eight LA Olympics.

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction to that news, especially knowing that

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Speaker 1: coach was paid more as head coach of the women's

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Speaker 1: team than the previous men's national team coach was paid,

536
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Speaker 1: so him taking this move isn't about money. So what

537
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Speaker 1: was your reaction to see that?

538
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my reaction was split. I was really excited for

539
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Speaker 2: Karch because he's such a good guy and just having

540
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: formed somewhat of a relationship with him over the last

541
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Speaker 2: few summers covering their tournaments. He's a person that is

542
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: constantly striving for more and more. You know, he's won

543
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: so many medals. He's one as a beach player, he's

544
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Speaker 2: one as a beach coach, he's one now as a

545
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Speaker 2: women's indoor coach. I mean, this is kind of his

546
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Speaker 2: opportunity to say, Okay, let's go get a medal in

547
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Speaker 2: another sport because he has the ability to do it.

548
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Speaker 2: He's one of not just the greatest volleyball coaching minds,

549
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Speaker 2: but really one of the greatest coaching minds in general period,

550
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Speaker 2: in the entire sport. So I was excited for Karch

551
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: of course, because I was like, Okay, it's another stepping stone,

552
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Speaker 2: and he'll probably go in a medal because he's Carch

553
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: and he could take a you know, he could take

554
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Speaker 2: class of preschoolers and go win an Olympic medal, like

555
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Speaker 2: he's that good of a coach. But then the other

556
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Speaker 2: side of me is Okay, of course I'm bummed because

557
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Speaker 2: I know with him in charge of the US women's

558
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Speaker 2: national team, they're not a shoe in for a medal,

559
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Speaker 2: but he's going to do their best to make sure

560
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Speaker 2: that they get it. So I wouldn't necessarily say I

561
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: think it's different case than of course most other sports,

562
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Speaker 2: because as you mentioned, the women's game in general, as

563
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Speaker 2: specifically mostly in the US, is a lot bigger than

564
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: the men's game that changes country to country overseas. But

565
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Speaker 2: I was excited that he had now has his opportunity

566
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Speaker 2: to coach the men and and to be honest, there's

567
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: so many great coaches coming up, either through the NCAA

568
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: game or elsewhere that are going to make a really

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Speaker 2: good coach for the women's national team. I would guess.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in the US, we're breeding good coaches right now,

571
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Speaker 2: so I think we're in a pretty good spot still.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And the one thing that's kind of cool about that,

573
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Speaker 1: if I step back, is we've seen in the women's

574
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Speaker 1: say basketball, that there are really high level women coaches

575
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Speaker 1: who have coached at the NBA level and then wanted

576
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Speaker 1: to be able to coach fellow women athletes. But needed

577
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Speaker 1: to wait for the game to catch up. Becky Hamon,

578
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Speaker 1: for instance, the first million dollar coach in the WNBA.

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Speaker 1: She was coaching on the men's side, making more money,

580
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Speaker 1: getting more status, having the kind of experience that she

581
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Speaker 1: deserved as the Kyle Burth coach that she is, and

582
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Speaker 1: when the w caught up and she was able to

583
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Speaker 1: go take her skill set to the women's game, she

584
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: could do that. And in some ways it's almost like

585
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: that with kirch Kuri and the men's game. He obviously

586
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: is a men's player. He grew up playing, and so

587
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: for him to get to let the men's game, I

588
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: guess catch up enough for him to decide that he

589
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Speaker 1: wants to go lead them and help them find some

590
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Speaker 1: glory is actually pretty cool for him as one of

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Speaker 1: the legends of the game, as someone who's been around

592
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Speaker 1: forever and has already done so much for the women's team.

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Speaker 1: So I guess it's less of a stepping stone if

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Speaker 1: you're stepping backwards. It's more of a I'm going to

595
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Speaker 1: use my influence to help raise the level of this

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Speaker 1: thing that hasn't gotten as much shine. Emily, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for educating us on this We're so excited to

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Speaker 1: watch your coverage of the big game this weekend, and

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00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: we're going to keep checking in with you as we

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Speaker 1: get closer to the end of this season and we

601
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Speaker 1: see some of these big name teams battle it out

602
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Speaker 1: in a really truly, genuinely exciting season for college volleyball.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. I was going to say,

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Speaker 2: And if anyone's listening and hasn't watched college volleyball, it

606
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: hooks you in right away. It's a difficult sport to

607
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: turn off based on how fast pace is and how

608
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: fun it is, so definitely turn it on this Friday.

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Speaker 2: It's a big one. It'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, once you get into it, it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: hard not to love it. Yeah, and you're helping us

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Speaker 1: do that. So thank you, no, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: This is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much to Emily for joining us. We got

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Speaker 1: to take another quick break when we come back. Prepare

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Speaker 1: the red carpet, hang the balloons. It's time for another

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Speaker 1: induction ceremony. Stick around welcome back slices in honor of

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Speaker 1: yesterday's incredible guest, Merrett Matthias and her retirement and the

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Speaker 1: end of the NWSL regular season this weekend, we have

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Speaker 1: a new entry into the Good Game Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: That's right, the Good Game Hall of Fame, where we

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00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: honor great moments and women's sports lore, the kind of

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Speaker 1: memorable performances and legendary stories you should know, just like

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00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: you know that MLB player Doc Ellis once through a

625
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Speaker 1: no hitter while on LSD, or that Michael Jordan scored

626
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: thirty eight points in the infamous Flu Game. Today we

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Speaker 1: induct Merret Matthias's tweets after she tore her ACL in

628
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, tweets that will forever live on in NWSL lore.

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Speaker 1: While playing for the North Carolina Courage, Matthias and Houston

630
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: dashboard Rachel Daily made contact. Matthias was initially whistled for

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Speaker 1: a foul on the play, but when it all shook out,

632
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: Daily was awarded a yellow card and Matthias had the

633
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: sub out of the game limping with a knee injury.

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00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: It turned out to be a torn ACL, which led

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Speaker 1: to this pair of tweets, along with a video of

636
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Speaker 1: Daily causing the injury. Matthias wrote, I did not tear

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Speaker 1: my ACL. My ACL was torn for me. I did

638
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: not misstep. My foot did not get stuck. It was

639
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: not a freak accident. My plant leg was intentionally kicked.

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00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: I was awarded a foul and Houston awarded a free kick.

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Speaker 1: It is due to a lack of respect that I

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00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: will not be finishing my season with the North Carolina Courage.

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Speaker 1: I will be getting surgery while my team takes on playoffs.

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00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: It is because of your lack of respect that I

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00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: can respectfully say fuck you. The tweets went instantly viral

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Speaker 1: and even inspired one dedicated nwslfan to do an interpretive

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