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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, a mental health podcast

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Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glazer. Welcome and gang to another edition

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Speaker 1: of Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer. Don't

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Speaker 1: you know what? I'm Jay Glazer, and you know it

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Speaker 1: was important for me to have on people throughout all

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Speaker 1: worlds to walk this walk together with the whole point

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Speaker 1: of Unbreakable is I'm a guy. If you don't know

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Speaker 1: me yet, I'm a guy who's lived in something that

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Speaker 1: I call the gray for my entire life. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: the football guy. Yes I've been the fighting guy. Yes

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Speaker 1: i'm someone of the ballers guy. But I'm also a

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Speaker 1: guy that's lived in the gray for my entire life

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Speaker 1: of depression, anxiety, a d D. Let's throw in from bipolar.

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Speaker 1: Why not, let's go for it all right, And I've

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Speaker 1: now tried to make it my mission to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to live life in the blue. I've never been

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Speaker 1: able to really have this journey of self love before,

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Speaker 1: where I just didn't know what what being able to

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Speaker 1: love myself and the inside out meant. So it really

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Speaker 1: motivated me to go out and do all these great

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Speaker 1: things to try and get some love from the outside

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Speaker 1: in instead of inside out, and hope somehow, some way

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Speaker 1: that love seats into the inside and they can meet

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Speaker 1: in the middle. But it as a result of this,

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Speaker 1: I'm on this journey to learn how to love myself

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Speaker 1: in the inside out, to learn how not to live

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Speaker 1: let the gray beat me every day. And and the

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Speaker 1: gray is something I will not let beat me. It's

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Speaker 1: every single morning of my life. I wake up and

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Speaker 1: it sucks. I'm not gonna lie to people. It sucks

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Speaker 1: every day. It's hard for me to get out of bed.

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Speaker 1: But every morning I make that decision to get out

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Speaker 1: of you at a bed and be relentless. And one

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Speaker 1: of the things I'm trying to be relentless about now

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Speaker 1: is my own journey of self love and journey to

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Speaker 1: the blue. So I lean on others. I lean on

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Speaker 1: good friends. And one of those good friends are joining

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Speaker 1: me right now. That John Gordon, who you may know

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Speaker 1: him from. I've known him from The Energy Bus at First,

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Speaker 1: which is my favorite book. But he's a he's a

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Speaker 1: best selling author. I worked with fortune companies, different sports teams,

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Speaker 1: thirteen have been best sellers, five of them are children's books. Again,

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Speaker 1: the Energy Bus sold over three million copies. So I

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Speaker 1: want to bring John in here because he's a guy

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Speaker 1: who's taught a lot of people how to get past

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Speaker 1: their own demons. But also John recently was affected, um

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Speaker 1: by unfortunately what's happening a lot in today's society, by

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Speaker 1: a suicide. And I wanted to just come straight out

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Speaker 1: of this John, because I received the text from you

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Speaker 1: recently where you were, man, you were just in a

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Speaker 1: tough place because of the ultimate decision that somebody made.

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Speaker 1: Welcome John, and uh, I appreciate havingue great to be

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Speaker 1: with you. I'm so thankful that we're friends, and I

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Speaker 1: many lives. I know that people have not committed suicide

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Speaker 1: positive because life is hard. And this is about being real.

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Speaker 1: This is not about fake positivity. This is about real positivity.

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Speaker 1: I understand what people need to do to overcome this.

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Speaker 1: It's like anything. It doesn't happen overnight. But by doing

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Speaker 1: it each day, feeding the positive, weeding the negative, replacing

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Speaker 1: those negative thoughts with positive thoughts. And also again the

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Speaker 1: third day was discouragement instead of discouragement setting and we encourage,

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Speaker 1: So every day you're encouraging yourself each day. And Jay,

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Speaker 1: the word encourage means to put courage into So when

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Speaker 1: you're encouraging someone, you put encourage into them. Will you

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Speaker 1: encourage yourself? You put encourage into yourself. That's why this

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Speaker 1: self talk is so important best advice everard Everyone needs

433
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Speaker 1: to hear this. Dr James Gill's only person on the

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Speaker 1: planet to complete six double iron Man triathlons. That's a

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Speaker 1: double iron Man, which means you do an iron Man,

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Speaker 1: which yes, and Jay last time he did fifty nine

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Speaker 1: years old six and at fifty nine, I can't even

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Speaker 1: swim the length of a pool. So he was asked

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Speaker 1: how he did. He said this, I've learned to talk

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Speaker 1: to myself and said, a listen to myself. He said,

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Speaker 1: if I listened, I wrote the fear, the negativity, the doubt,

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Speaker 1: all the reasons why I can't finish this race again,

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Speaker 1: the thoughts coming in. But he would talk to himself

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Speaker 1: and share words of encouragement. You got this, you can

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Speaker 1: do this, he would. He would memorize and recite scripture.

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Speaker 1: That's what he did. But you can pick any words

447
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Speaker 1: that fit and work for you, that encourage you, and

448
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: pick those words and it's incredible when you do that.

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Speaker 1: So what I did over the years with the gratitude,

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Speaker 1: the appreciation, the walk, and then I would also say

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00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: a bunch of affirmations, you know, even things like I

452
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Speaker 1: trust that great things are happening today. I expect all

453
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Speaker 1: the great things that are coming my way. I was

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Speaker 1: reprogramming my mind from the negative and being depressed. My

455
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Speaker 1: wife wanted me to literally go see a doctor. She's like,

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Speaker 1: you need help. I'm like, let me just try to

457
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: this on my own. Let me just see if I

458
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Speaker 1: can do this. How long until you started to see

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Speaker 1: she noticed a difference within literally within about thirty days,

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Speaker 1: within a month, you know the difference. And then and

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Speaker 1: then within a few months, and then within a year

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Speaker 1: you know, a big you know, even a bigger difference,

463
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Speaker 1: in a greater difference. And now where I used to

464
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Speaker 1: wake up depressed and down and anxious and worried, my

465
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Speaker 1: state is pretty much is very positive and hopeful and optimistic.

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Speaker 1: There are days, though, I do wake up and I'm

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Speaker 1: in the grave, Like I have those days where all

468
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden it comes back and it's like and

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Speaker 1: it's like, where did that come from? Like this is

470
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Speaker 1: old John, not new John. When when COVID hit, I

471
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Speaker 1: was resorting back to my old fears of getting going

472
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Speaker 1: and getting started beginning my business, and my wife reminded me, like,

473
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Speaker 1: who are you, Like, where's the where's the guy who

474
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: wrote the energy bus? And I was like, you're right,

475
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Speaker 1: You're right, And very quickly, very quickly, I started just

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Speaker 1: practicing hope. And I said, this day, I am focusing

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Speaker 1: on love during this time. I'm not gonna focus on fear.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I love people, encourage people, and

479
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Speaker 1: get out there and help whoever needs to be helped.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna worry about myself. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: focus on fear. And I said, I refused to participate

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Speaker 1: in the pandemic, is what I said. Now, maybe it's

483
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Speaker 1: why I got COVID three times, but I said, I said,

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna go impact people and help people

485
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Speaker 1: during this time. And I gotta tell you I turned

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Speaker 1: around really quickly by focusing on that again. What overcomes fear,

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Speaker 1: what casts out here? It is love. And the thing

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Speaker 1: is people who feel depressed, we feel isolated, we feel separate,

489
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Speaker 1: we feel alone. That's the thing. We feel alone. Jay,

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Speaker 1: here's the other part of this teaching that's incredible. High

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Speaker 1: state of mind. Low state of mind. When you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts, a lot of clutter, that creates

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Speaker 1: a low state of mind. Think about high state of mind.

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Speaker 1: You're in the zone you have less thought you have, right,

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Speaker 1: let's clutter. Two circles, one with a thousand dots, another

496
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Speaker 1: circle with three dots. Which mind will perform at a

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Speaker 1: higher level, the one with just three or the one

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Speaker 1: with a thousand thoughts? Three? Right? Right? Higher state of

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Speaker 1: mind less thought less clutter. Okay, The thing is to

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Speaker 1: understand how do we get to a high state of mind.

501
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Speaker 1: But you have to understand the ebb and flow of thoughts.

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Speaker 1: When you're in a low state, you feel like you're

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Speaker 1: in a roller coaster that is going down. This roller

504
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Speaker 1: coaster is crashing, and you don't know that the roller

505
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: coaster goes back up. This is your first time ever

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Speaker 1: on a roller coaster, so you don't know it goes

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Speaker 1: back up, So you think you're gonna crash. If you're

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Speaker 1: in a roller coaster that thinks it's gonna crash, what

509
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: do you want to do? You want to jump off

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00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: besides screen. When we're in a low state, Jay, we

511
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: want to escape and jump off the roller coaster. We

512
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: feel disconnected, we feel lost. That's why people drink, it's

513
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: why people do drugs, it's why they play video games.

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00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: They're finding ways to escape that low state of mind

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00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: that they feel and they want to jump up, or

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00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: they think some's broken, something's wrong with me again. The

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Speaker 1: thoughts are coming and they're blaming themselves. They're trying everything

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Speaker 1: to figure it out. A baseball batter who goes over four,

519
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: O for three, over four again is now thinking, revved

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Speaker 1: up thought, creating more clutter, which is low is your

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Speaker 1: state of mind. That's what happens to people who have

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Speaker 1: anxiety fear. It's a downward spiral and they want to

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Speaker 1: escape and jump off, and some jump off in the

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00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: most dramatical ways and the most tragic of ways, as

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00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: we just talked about. So what I want people to

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00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: do is stay on the roller coaster, stay on, don't

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Speaker 1: jump off, just stay on. And the many you realize

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Speaker 1: I'm not can Eschepe. There's an eban flow to my thoughts.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with me, nothing is broken. You watch,

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00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: the more you do this, you'll actually start to ride

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Speaker 1: that roller coaster right back up, and you'll get to

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00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: a higher state of mind instead of the low state

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about. Does that make sense? And the

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00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: fear creates the low state, but love creates the highest state.

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Speaker 1: When you are in a state of love and focusing

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00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: on love, you will have a higher state of mind.

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00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: Why Because love creates connection, Connection creates clarity, Clarity creates confidence.

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Speaker 1: Confidence creates courage. And that's why a player who's loving

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00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 1: what he's doing in the moment and loving competing and

540
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: loving the opportunity. That's why someone who is loving life

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Speaker 1: and just loving their friends and loving their family, that's

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00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: why they're the happiest people, because they're focused on love

543
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: and they feel connected instead of divided. Does that? Does

544
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: that make sense? Let me ask your little advice here

545
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: to give me and others who think like me. So,

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00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: I'm great with gratitude. I'm great with kind of I've

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00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: learned how to um we're studied gratitude and trying to

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00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 1: make that my prevailing thought. One of the things I've

549
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: always struggled with. I think others who stuffed her from

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00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: the personal anxiety I had other people tell me this

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00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: also is when it comes to positive affirmations. Almost feel

552
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: this pressure when I have positive affirmation. And Brandy Coutorius

553
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: tell me all the time in the fight game, man,

554
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: I want you to lay out the whole fight and

555
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: do it. And I'm always just say to myself, man,

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00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna jinx myself. I feel like

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00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: if I put out these positive affirmations, like this is

558
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen for me, well, she just jinks myself, which right,

559
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: But but at the same time, I know the universe

560
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: is not against us, right, so it doesn't make sense.

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00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: But yes, that's how I feel that, and I know

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00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: others do too. Okay, I'm gonna put out this positive affirmation.

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00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: I am gonna get this job, I am gonna do this,

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00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: I am going to start this podcast, I am gonna

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00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: do whatever. I'm an improved here. And then I'm like, oh,

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00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: I just jinxed myself by saying it. How do you

567
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: help somebody like me who has that? Or jay someone

568
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: like me? Because when I started doing these things that

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Speaker 1: I would do in the morning years ago, and I

570
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: would take these walks of gratitude, Initially I'm like, what,

571
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: You're not grateful, you know? And on these walks, negative

572
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: thoughts would come in. As I'm trying to practice latitude.

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00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: All these thoughts would come in about this person wronged

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00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: you here, and this person did this, and I was

575
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: going back to the negative. So it does take time,

576
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: and it feels really awkward. And freaking weird At first

577
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: when you're doing this, you're like, it feels like now

578
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm not a big like stand in front of the

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00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: mirror and say, gosh darted, people like right, but I

580
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: am big on What is it that you want to create?

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00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: What is it that you want to build? What is

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00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: the desire of your heart? What is your purpose? What

583
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: is your passion is? What? What is it that you love?

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00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: What is it do you want to do? And and

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00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: start to think about that. Fear and faith have one

586
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: thing in common besides the letter F. They both believe

587
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: in the future that hasn't happened yet. Jay, So that's

588
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, So that won't I want to

589
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: once you say that one again. Fear and faith both

590
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: believe in the future that hasn't happened yet. So fear

591
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: believes in the negative future. Faith believes in the positive future.

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00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: But if neither has happened yet, why wouldn't you choose

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00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: to believe in the positive future. Why wouldn't we choose

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00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: to believe the best? These are ahead of us, not

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00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: behind us. So what you're telling me is you're saying,

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00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to jiggle myself. I'm saying, no, have

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00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: faith but not fear. Okay, you're still living in that

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00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: fear moment, Like how you're presenting it to me? Yeah,

599
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: like I can swallow this? Why not? And I guess what?

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00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: It may not work out and and if it doesn't,

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00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: that's adversity I have to come over. In Adversity is

602
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: a gift for me. That's all the ship I've overcome. Exactly,

603
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: You've already overcome some much unbreakable is all the things

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00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: I've overcome, things that have not broken me, and that's

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00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: got me where I am. You know, adversity is a gift.

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00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: Now in my book, I have this thing about you know,

607
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: you never do know what lies around next Tuesday, And

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00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: for you, I think it's fascinating. And I think most

609
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: of your fans don't know this. I didn't know it

610
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: until you know, not too long ago. That tell people

611
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: a story. So your energy bus has sold three million copies,

612
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: but tell people the journey of how long it took

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00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: for it to click after you wrote it, and wear

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00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: it clicked and just that ty because again you're like,

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00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: here's the guy who writes his book, and I'll tell

616
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: you the story didn't really didn't take off at all

617
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: and then took a different route to make your best

618
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: selling author. Yeah, I had to live the principles I

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00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: wrote about in the book. And the story is about

620
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: a guy named George who's miserable and negative and his

621
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: team at works in disarray, and his problems at home.

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00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: His wife's about to leave him. So George was based

623
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: on me. When people read the book, they don't know that.

624
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: But Georgie was leased on me and my own journey.

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00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Un told of going from negative

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00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: to positive, and so he had to learn to be

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00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: a more positive person enjoy. The bus driver teaches him

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00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: these ten rules for the right of his life. So

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00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: I write this book. It comes to me on a

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Speaker 1: walk one day and I'm taking of these gratitude walks

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00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: that I'm talking about. Boom it comes. I write it

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00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: in three and a half weeks of just divine Inspiration's fast,

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00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: easy read, folks. It's like, how many pages is it?

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Speaker 1: A hundred something hut and not a big book? Not

635
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Speaker 1: easy gets rejected by over thirty publishers. So over thirty

636
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm told to give up. It's not gonna happen. But

637
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: I can't give up because I have this vision and

638
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: mission to encourage people. Holds like thirty publishers and so

639
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: now sold three million copies. Not one of them looked

640
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: and said, wow, this is gold right. And I had

641
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: a similar thing on the way up to in sportscast.

642
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: It took me eleven years to get a full time job.

643
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how could people not see I'm getting

644
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: more scoops than anybody and no one's hiring me. How

645
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: is this happening? They didn't get it because this is

646
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: a book that's about business but also about personal life too.

647
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: It combined the two and it was the first of

648
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: its kind that really did that in a fable format.

649
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: Usually it was just straight up business fables, but the

650
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: characters were three, you know, two dimensional, and my journey

651
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: In my books the characters take on form and you

652
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: get to know them and appreciate them and want to

653
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: root for them. Plus it's business lessons or life lessons.

654
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: So I read. So I read this book. Ge'ts rejected,

655
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: and I can't give up. So I keep hoping, keep

656
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: dreaming time. But I am fearful, and I am stressed,

657
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: and I have a family and I have two kids,

658
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: and I had sold my restaurant to focus on this,

659
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: and my wife did not want to sell the restaurant

660
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: that we so and by the way, I second mortgage

661
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: my home and put twenty tho credit cards to put

662
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: into this restaurant in the first place to get it going.

663
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: No one. I wanted to be a writer and speaker,

664
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: not knowing if the restaurant would work, and the restaurant

665
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: almost didn't make it, so I almost lost everything. So

666
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: that was a really scary time as well. So I

667
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: learned though. But that's when I learned faith was actually

668
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: done the restaurant business, because you know, doing everything I

669
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: could to try and make it work and being so

670
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: fearful and stressed during that time, but knowing this was

671
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: my goal to write and speak. At some point, I

672
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: kept going, kept hoping, kept putting it out there, and

673
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: every day I would I would start those walks because

674
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: that was after my wife almost you know, left me.

675
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: So I would do those walks and I would like,

676
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: I would say, I, um, I received all the people

677
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: that want to come in the restaurant today, and then

678
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: we'd be packed. It was like amazing. It was like

679
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: this thing that just kept happening, and I learned faith

680
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: I learned just to be positive. I learned that it's

681
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: amazing at what could happen if you just put yourself

682
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: out there every day. So John Wiley and Sons agreed

683
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: to publish the book. Shannon Vargain had only been on

684
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: the job for like three months. Publishing house. Yeah, out

685
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: of out of New York, New Jersey. Wiley. You know,

686
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: Wiley Publishing. They do a ton of books. And she

687
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: read the book and wanted to do it. Her boss said,

688
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: if it doesn't go well, it could be your career.

689
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: She had a best set. She had a best friend

690
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: with her husband named George. Come on, yeah, best friend

691
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: it was it was faith, faith, And so she says,

692
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: I want to do this book. So they called me up.

693
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: They agree to do it. They said, we can't give

694
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: you a big advance. I said, I don't care. I

695
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: just want the book to get out there. The book

696
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: comes out that one bookstore in the United States would

697
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: carry the book, not one, But it becomes a huge

698
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: bestseller in South Korea. Not in North Korea, but South Korea.

699
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you want differentiate of that because North

700
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: Korea you don't have a problem. To this day, couldn't

701
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: couldn't explain how or why, but becomes a huge in

702
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: South Wait wait wait, wait, wait so it How do

703
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: you catch wind that it's selling like crazy in South Korea?

704
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: And why don't sell like crazy in South Korea? Because

705
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: my publisher basically has a foreign rights division and they

706
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: were selling all their books too at a big conference

707
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: in in Asia and Singapore, and for some reason, they

708
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: became this bidding war over the energy bus, and these

709
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: two publishers kept bidding, and the foreign rights deal was

710
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: the largest foreign rights deal that Wiley has ever done.

711
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: To this day. No one could explain it how or why.

712
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: You couldn't sell in America. Nobody buy it, you know,

713
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: they were going crazy for it. In Asia. My publisher

714
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: was called me the David Hasselhoff of Korea to mess with. Okay.

715
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: So so finally I said, okay, I gotta get this

716
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: book out here in the US, and I go on

717
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: a twenty city tour, paid for myself, and publish it

718
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: would even pay for it, and I went from city

719
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: to city sharing the message in the book, and we

720
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: would literally call up radio stations, TV stations. This is

721
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: before social media and hey, John Gordon's coming to town.

722
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: He's internationally known, internationally acclaimed author, which is true which

723
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: is two bestseller and career. And so I would go

724
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: from city to city and we had five people, ten people, ja.

725
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: The biggest crowd we had were a hundred people in

726
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: De Moines, Iowa. They thought Jeff Gordon was coming. That's

727
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: why they showed up. True story. True Story. I got

728
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: called so many times that day get back. I don't

729
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: know what their future holds, but I say, okay. And

730
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: that tour was so hard. I mean, I'm going from

731
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: city to city, not a lot of people. I got

732
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: sick in the middle of the tour, but I'm having

733
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: to live these principles. I don't know if the book's

734
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: gonna make it, but I'm on a wing and a prayer,

735
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: just going out there and sharing the message. I come

736
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: back and I'm like, Okay, I just gotta do this

737
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: work and make a difference, you know, one person at

738
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: a time. My mission was to encourage and inspire as

739
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: many people as possible, one person at a time. That's

740
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: why we're doing this podcast, right, Can we just reach

741
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: that one person? That's why I now want to impact

742
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: that one person who's struggling, you know, dealing with suicide.

743
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: Let's help that one person. Jay. The first person that

744
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: reads this book is Mike Smith, who's a defensive coordinator

745
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars. The first football person he reads it.

746
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: I come back Froose Tours. Yes, but he's with the

747
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: Jaguars at the time. Jack del Rio is the head coach.

748
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: He gives the Jack Jack reads the book. I get

749
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: a call from Jack del Rio wanting to meet with me.

750
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: I go meet with him. He says, I'm gonna use

751
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: your book this year with the team. He goes, would

752
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: you come speak to the team? I said, are you

753
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: kidding me? I'd love to. I can't believe I'm meeting

754
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: with Jack del Rio. You're living down there in that

755
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: area too, Yeah he was. He was coaching the jackson Jaguars.

756
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: I was living in Jackson Jacksonville. Yeah, I was live

757
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. So I go down me with him. I said,

758
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: I'll come speak to the team if you get get

759
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: everyone a copy of the book. He said, you got it.

760
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: Gives everyone a copy of the book, and that began

761
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: my journey of of doing this work in sports. Because

762
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: of that, and then Mike Smith brought it to the

763
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: Falcons work with the University of Texas football and then

764
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: from there the rest of history. But no, but that's

765
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: how you got the sports, But how did it then

766
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: take off in America? Where you've sold three copies? So

767
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: that tour I literally can trace, and this is the

768
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: key about Humble Beginnings. I can trace so many of

769
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: the speaking events that came from that tour because even

770
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: though one person came to one of my events in Austin,

771
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: she was a principal, and then brought me to her school,

772
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: and then another person brought me to their business to

773
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: speak to their business. And then as the book got

774
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: out there and made the news about Jack Dorio using

775
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: the book, and then companies called and said, hey, will

776
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: you come speak to our company? And then I have

777
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: a weekly newsletter and I started sharing that out there

778
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: and people started reading it. Then school districts started to

779
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: ask me to come speak, and that's how it happened.

780
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: So it just didn't become a bestseller, did it the

781
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: best seller for five years too? For five years? So

782
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: I went hold on back and up. I want everybody

783
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: to hear that because this is a lot of the

784
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: problems that we do have mental health wise, where people's

785
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: dreams aren't haven't come true, and they're grinding, grinding, folks.

786
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: It took him five years to get his book to

787
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: to make a debt. It took me eleven eleven to

788
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: get a full time job. I was making nine thousand,

789
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: seven d and fifty dollars a year living in New

790
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: York City. So that overnight success that so many people

791
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: think we have, it's full of ship. There is no

792
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: overnight success. And overnight success for me lasted eleven years

793
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: just to get my first real paycheck that was consistent.

794
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: And for you, five years of you just grinding, grinding.

795
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: So if you want your dreams to come true, take

796
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: it for the two of us. You gotta out work

797
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: the world, and you gotta do things most people aren't

798
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: willing to do. And that's working out work in the world,

799
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: but not a little, but by a lot, to do

800
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: something like John did and Jay. So many people compare

801
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: themselves to others. And remember this, when you compare, you despair.

802
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: So when you compare yourself to others, that will lead

803
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: to you feeling despair. And so the key is don't

804
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: compare yourself to anyone else. This is your journey. You

805
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: win the journey. Each day. Don't live your life via

806
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: social media. I love this. It's like someone said the

807
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: other day, Carry Flowers Jr. Said, they don't have a

808
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: better life than you. They just have a better filter

809
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: and a better editor. So what you see on social media,

810
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: it just looks better. But you know what, they're living

811
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: their life. You gotta live your life and follow your journey,

812
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: follow your path and your purpose. Before I let you go,

813
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 1: I want all my guests to trying with their unbreakable moment.

814
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: And your unbreakable moment could be the moment you knew

815
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: you can finally exhale, that you made it, something you overcame,

816
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: something to try to break you that didn't like mine.

817
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: Two were um when I finally did get that call

818
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: after eleven years. Hey man, we finally got your full

819
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: time shop. You compare your bills like I went from

820
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: broke to unbreakable. I mean, living in New Ork City

821
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: making ninety seven bucks a year. But I you know,

822
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: I said from that first day I walked into the

823
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: giant locker room, the cup of team, I'll be the

824
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: last dude standing in the here. Man. If these casts

825
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: worked forty hours a week, I'll work them. I work

826
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: a hundred hours a week. I will be fucking different

827
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: than all I'll be the last dude standing. And it

828
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: wasn't the money of the full time job, but it

829
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: validated me. And when I came in there and said

830
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be different and I'll be the last man standing,

831
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: validated it for me. And it was more valuable than

832
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: any dollar amount could have been for me. And my

833
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: other moment was getting Spy eight because that put me

834
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: on the map, got the biggest scoop in NFL history,

835
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: and man, that really put me a different level. And

836
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: it came in a really hard time in my life.

837
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: What's your unbreakable moment? Can I share it too? Go

838
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: ahead it it really it may not be positive, but

839
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: it turned out to be positive. It's when my son

840
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: struggled during the quarantine and during COVID where so many

841
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: people were struggling, and he was in college and it

842
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: really affected him just being isolated and stop doing his schoolwork.

843
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: And we brought him home and he was going through

844
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: a really tough time. And it was during that time

845
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: that I truly learned how to be a better father.

846
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: I literally realized I needed to give him love, I

847
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: need to listen and not challenge. I needed just to

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Speaker 1: support and stop pushing, and it was about just him

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Speaker 1: being happy and healthy and helping him get through that

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00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: that dark time. Jay. It took everything I had as

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Speaker 1: a parent to try to pull the darkness out of him,

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Speaker 1: to be there with him, to support him. It was

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00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: during COVID, so I usually do about a hundred events

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Speaker 1: a year, but now I'm home all the time, so

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00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time together. My wife was

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00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: you know, she she was like, I'm gonna let you

857
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Speaker 1: do this thing. I'm like, yeah, I need to. And

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Speaker 1: it was really me and him in so many ways,

859
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Speaker 1: and I gotta say it made me a better human being.

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Speaker 1: I would love to say it was some kind of

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00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: successful triumph of speaking or the book, but it was

862
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: really knowing that I was there for my son and

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Speaker 1: being there as a dad, but also learning what really

864
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: mental what mental health challenges are really like. And really

865
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: I had my own but not as bad, but learning

866
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: what he was going through, what younger people are going through,

867
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: it really taught me so much compassion and love and

868
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: just to be supportive and really to be there with

869
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: people and it's okay to not be okay. So for me.

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00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: That was that was number one listening. All our problems

871
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: where the same. Yeah, talk about you. You just said,

872
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: well I'm not as bet No, no, no. All our

873
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 1: problems where the same. So, yeah, we need compassion and

874
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: empathy for everybody. You have no idea how painful something

875
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: may feel for somebody else. All our problems where the same.

876
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: And I would say that the unbreakable moment in terms

877
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: of a highlight, was really just recently because I've been

878
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: speaking for a long time, but only now by sharing

879
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: this message of high state of mind, low state of mind,

880
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: helping people really understand how their negative thoughts affect and

881
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: how they can overcome, how they can actually bring their

882
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: best to every situation and and really love life more

883
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: and enjoy life more. So that's what I shared with

884
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: the RAMS, for instance. And there I was with the RAMS,

885
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: and also with Clemson and other teams like that, Texas

886
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: and Oh You and Florida State Miami. I did a

887
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: lot of talks this summer. But doing that this summer,

888
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: I realized, Okay, I was put on earth for this

889
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: moment and this message. Everything in my life, all the

890
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: books ever, has brought me to this moment to do

891
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: this work. It's gonna be my next book that I

892
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: write about, and I'm gonna I'm gonna dedicate it to Nina.

893
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm gonna, Yeah, I'm gonna dedicate it

894
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: to her. I have to. I know I'm supposed to.

895
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna dedicate to her. And I know that

896
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: everything and brought me to this moment. And then Sean,

897
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, our good friend, Sean mcnigh. After the talk,

898
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: he said, John, like you came in five years ago

899
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: and talked to us, and four years ago, he goes,

900
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: but there's something different now, he said, You've grown so much.

901
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: And to me, even at fifty one doing this work,

902
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: to know that I've gotten better at fifty one from

903
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: forty seven, that I've improved that much, to me, that's

904
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: what it's all about. So for me, that was a highlight.

905
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: Like you never arrived. The door of greatness, right is

906
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: always open. You gotta keep moving through it. Never think

907
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: even ride, keep working, keep improving, keep getting better, and

908
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: keep pushing the envelope to improve and pursue that excellence

909
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: to create the lights that you want. John, I love you, man,

910
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate you for joining us. This has been great again.

911
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: I've learned from you and here we are like you

912
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: never you can learn from everybody. That's like in martial arts.

913
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: Like I tell people, I'm not just gonna learn from

914
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: a black belt. I'll learn from a white belt, doesn't

915
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: matter me. I'm gonna learn from anybody. But you are

916
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: kind of a black belt here and so I appreciate

917
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: you joining us. Your matches message is incredible. Appreciate your

918
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: friendship more than you could ever know, ma'am, and um

919
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: for everybody at home again, and make sure you were

920
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: you review this, leave a positive review you like it.

921
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: Make sure you go follow John on social media. Make

922
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: sure you buy the Energy Book if you haven't yet,

923
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: buy the Energy Book, and then get the rest of

924
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: them because they're quick, even for a guy like me

925
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: with a d D. Where I, you know, get through

926
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: a page and a half of something then boom, it's

927
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: like squirrel, right I and I've gotten through so many

928
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: of them, as you know. But your authenticity for me

929
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: makes you for me, you know, an all time Hall

930
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: of famer. So I love you, dude, and I appreciate

931
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: you for joining us. Love you brother, You're the best.

932
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: Thank you man, John Gordon. There John Gordon, I appreciate

933
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Speaker 1: you walking the walk together with us