Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three sixty three.
Speaker 1: This episode as always brought to you by our great
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Speaker 1: that teaser crushes? Your teaser won with ease, Buddy, Well,
Speaker 1: the Bills was a little bit of a sweat ended
Speaker 1: up not being a sweat. It's weird to have a
Speaker 1: team plus nine in a teaser that you're loot like
Speaker 1: they're gonna cost you the teaser, and then they win
Speaker 1: the game outright, But that happened Cleveland, no sweat, Dallas,
Speaker 1: no sweat. I almos, you were on the right side
Speaker 1: of it. I almost talked you out of it because I.
Speaker 2: Was saying closer, right, take.
Speaker 1: The Philly side. And because you don't think Dallas can win. Dallas,
Speaker 1: of course you know didn't win, but could have there,
Speaker 1: so right, teaser great. We It's not quite as good
Speaker 1: of a win, but avoiding a loss is all almost
Speaker 1: as good as a win. I dodged the dance through
Speaker 1: the rain drops on the producers stupid offer this week.
Speaker 1: I told you, listen, Travers's gonna throw him one. He's
Speaker 1: just gonna throw.
Speaker 2: Him one, like.
Speaker 1: I had no doubt that the Jags are gonna win
Speaker 1: that game, but Trevor's gonna give him one, and so
Speaker 1: we avoided that. And despite starting the slate Friday night
Speaker 1: with a loser case minus three for me, and then
Speaker 1: Miami plus one just gets absolutely annihilated. And on that note,
Speaker 1: I still will to finish the thought still winning weekend.
Speaker 1: Cleveland plus five could have won outright, should have won outright.
Speaker 1: We'll get to them. Raiders plus two and a half
Speaker 1: did win outright Buffalo plus one again, folks, this is
Speaker 1: the key to actually getting the right side of the line,
Speaker 1: not even the right side of the game. The books
Speaker 1: got a nigh laid for Bill's Ravens. Here's why. It
Speaker 1: starts Demons Bills minus a point and a half. So
Speaker 1: many people bet it. Hold on, do I have this right?
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, so yes, so many people bet Baltimore
Speaker 1: plus one and a half that it flips all the
Speaker 1: way to Bills to Baltimore. Let me start over, because
Speaker 1: I'm it's gonna be confusing for the audience. It opens
Speaker 1: Buffalo minus one and a half at home. All the
Speaker 1: action comes in on Baltimore getting a point and a
Speaker 1: half enough so the line flips all the way to
Speaker 1: Baltimore minus a point and a half, enough action comes
Speaker 1: in on Buffalo plus one and a half that it
Speaker 1: settles at Buffalo plus one, and then Buffalo wins by one.
Speaker 1: And so because of that, all the early Ravens betters
Speaker 1: getting the Ravens plus a point and a half one,
Speaker 1: and all the late Bills betters getting the Bills plus
Speaker 1: a point and a half or plus one one. That's
Speaker 1: a that's the worst case scenario for the books. And
Speaker 1: by the way, our show brought to you by our
Speaker 1: great friends at hard Rock bet that is, you really
Speaker 1: really want to avoid that exact scenario. But it also
Speaker 1: if you liked Buffalo in this game and you bet
Speaker 1: them early, you lost. If you had Buffalo minus a
Speaker 1: point and a half, you lost. Like so, all of
Speaker 1: that is noteworthy. Here's the other thing that's noteworthy. I
Speaker 1: have a lot invested in the Cults being bad. I
Speaker 1: was flirting with them being you know, having the number
Speaker 1: one pick, certainly them missing the playoffs, and you know,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of preseason investment in that, which
Speaker 1: means I now have Demond's a a defact do investment
Speaker 1: in the Dolphins better be absolutely horrific Like that game
Speaker 1: needs to have been about how bad Miami is, because
Speaker 1: if Miami's just average, then the Colts are good and
Speaker 1: I'm in trouble. I'm already starting.
Speaker 2: To behind the game back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yeah, Daniel don't play the game of
Speaker 1: his life. So all right, so all of that coming
Speaker 1: up in the show. Here's how I want to do
Speaker 1: these Tuesday shows. I would like, in theory for us
Speaker 1: to spend at least twenty seconds on every single game
Speaker 1: like that, every game of the week, and will be
Speaker 1: addressed now maybe come week ten or eleven, if there's
Speaker 1: a game between two truly out of iderrelevant teams, will
Speaker 1: break that rule. But early in the season, there was
Speaker 1: only one game that I looked at and I was like,
Speaker 1: even twenty seconds? Is it too much on this game?
Speaker 1: Do you know game that was? Do you have a
Speaker 1: guess we're both teams? I'm like, do we need to
Speaker 1: talk about it? You nailed it, You nailed it.
Speaker 2: But that will hit this week. I feel like Arizona, Oh,
Speaker 2: thank you for saying that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So all of my Survivor picks this week were either
Speaker 1: Cardinals or Jags. Most Jags are our team one for
Speaker 1: the show was Jags It is so maddening that Brian
Speaker 1: Callahan's the worst coach I've ever seen in the in
Speaker 1: the last decade in the NFL, because forty percent of
Speaker 1: the million dollar pool would have been knocked out with
Speaker 1: the Broncos losing. You add seventy five percent of the
Speaker 1: pool had either Philly, which could have lost, Denver, which
Speaker 1: should have lost, or Cincinnati, which was dying to lose. Instead,
Speaker 1: every favorite one except for the Chiefs, Every big favorite
Speaker 1: one three points or more except for the Chiefs. All
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Speaker 1: Syracuse beat Yukon in overtime and then head coach made
Speaker 1: him to win sprints. Okay, Bill Belichick is imploding, is
Speaker 1: too strong, but it's not far from what he's doing
Speaker 1: when he talks about I'm not welcome there. Why would
Speaker 1: they be welcome here? Because you're trying to get your
Speaker 1: guys into the NFL. Bro and Demons question, are you
Speaker 1: reclaiming Daniel Jones or you.
Speaker 2: Need to see me claiming Daniel Jones? Okay, Like like
Speaker 2: you said, we got to see what the Colts are
Speaker 2: actually going to be about and what Miami is Uh. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll be watching him watching them.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I don't know that I'll
Speaker 1: be watching him, at least not early on. I don't
Speaker 1: know that they're gonna make the They didn't make the
Speaker 1: I had six games on in front of me and
Speaker 1: the one o'clock window this weekend called Dolphins one one
Speaker 1: of them I did. And so we'll see, all right,
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Speaker 1: and we might have a problem.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So the Bears came. It came out looking
Speaker 2: pretty good. Caleb had that nice drive. In the beginning
Speaker 2: of the game seemed like they were controlling it, even
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy threw a pick six, but they still turned
Speaker 2: it around and won. So obviously, Caleb Williams loss last night.
Speaker 2: What was your biggest takeaway from this game?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm officially a little concerned about Caleb. I
Speaker 1: was not at any point last year, but the sequence
Speaker 1: of the last ninety six hours where I listen, I'm
Speaker 1: a subscriber. I was already a subscriber to Tyler Dunn substack.
Speaker 1: It's like fifty bucks for the whole year support real journalism.
Speaker 1: He is the guy if people are like, I, oh,
Speaker 1: let me it's go long TD. Let me see if
Speaker 1: you go to golongtd dot com if that takes you there,
Speaker 1: I actually don't know the answer that no, so hold on,
Speaker 1: let me see what the actual so oh no it does.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe yeah, golongtd dot com. But it's on substack.
Speaker 1: He is the guy who broke the story a year
Speaker 1: ago demons that Sean McDermott tried to rally the troops
Speaker 1: by being like the nine to eleven hijackers thing. He
Speaker 1: has real sources, he is a real journalist. He's totally independent,
Speaker 1: so I was already a subscriber of his. He has
Speaker 1: released a three part book on Caleb's first year with
Speaker 1: the Bears, It Ain't Great and it is to me
Speaker 1: highly concerning. It also discusses it's a The person who
Speaker 1: comes out looking the worst is Ryan Poles the GM.
Speaker 1: Caleb doesn't look great though in it either, and it
Speaker 1: talks about a shaky work ethic, not necessarily galvanizing leadership,
Speaker 1: and in a shocking statement from some of his sources
Speaker 1: that there is a belief within the front office that
Speaker 1: was kept from the coaching staff, that Caleb might have
Speaker 1: the learning disability dyslexia, which there is obviously no shame
Speaker 1: in that at all. However, one of the ways dyslexia
Speaker 1: can manifest itself, obviously is you transpose words or letters,
Speaker 1: and that one of the reasons they postulate he might
Speaker 1: have trouble translating the play call from his headset to
Speaker 1: his wristband getting it in, getting plays in on time
Speaker 1: is a confusion about what he's reading. And that is
Speaker 1: not something that is, you know, you can't overcome, but
Speaker 1: it is something that has to be accounted for. And
Speaker 1: the reporting is that the front office kept it from
Speaker 1: his coaches last year. Now, obviously Ben Johnson, one would
Speaker 1: think has all this information. And if you watched last night,
Speaker 1: you saw most notably that play on the sideline when
Speaker 1: Caleb spun out of trouble, went to the sideline and
Speaker 1: then ripped an absolute laser to I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was DJ Moore or Rome. I'm not sure why
Speaker 1: the talent demands is undeniable and hypnotizing. It just is
Speaker 1: like and you saw that obviously throughout his remarkable collegiate career.
Speaker 1: But his right now deficit on the pre these snap
Speaker 1: parts of being an NFL quarterback to me, are going
Speaker 1: to slow his development. And you saw that left and
Speaker 1: right last night, that getting plays in was still a problem.
Speaker 1: Motioning guys when there's a few seconds on the shot
Speaker 1: on the shot clock, on the game clock or play
Speaker 1: clock was still a problem. Like some things that he
Speaker 1: really needs to be at this point, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: better at those things have become one game in have
Speaker 1: not improved, And.
Speaker 2: You don't think his decision making at all improved a
Speaker 2: little bit from last year.
Speaker 1: So I do think his decision making improved. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the pre snap operation. I'm talking about getting the
Speaker 1: team out of the huddle, conveying the play call in time,
Speaker 1: doing the things necessary to prevent these five yard pre
Speaker 1: snap penalties. That was brutal. The whole night just was.
Speaker 1: And while his decision making I thought was better and
Speaker 1: he was quicker getting the ball out, his accuracy was shaky.
Speaker 3: He's putting a lot, he missed a lot on them,
Speaker 3: putting a lot on the lot on the ball and
Speaker 3: also just missing.
Speaker 1: There were a couple spots he missed guys wide open.
Speaker 1: And so if I am being fair, which I have
Speaker 1: to be, I I still believe in Caleb Williams. I
Speaker 1: am less certain that superstardom is in his future. And
Speaker 1: I think that is for me as a guy who
Speaker 1: said he would come into the league as a top
Speaker 1: ten quarterback. Uh tough pill to swallow, trust me, But.
Speaker 2: You don't think it might be a little a little
Speaker 2: early with it being game one, Like if they were
Speaker 2: to go and put it on the Lions, what would
Speaker 2: that change stuff immediately?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm gonna look back on this and say I was,
Speaker 1: you know, ten hours after the game in his reactionary.
Speaker 1: But I am like I am, I understand most of
Speaker 1: the audience has not read the Tyler Dunn story, and again,
Speaker 1: his sub stack is golong tv dot com. I highly
Speaker 1: encourage people. It's it's worth the six bucks a month.
Speaker 1: It's less than that four bucks a month. It's worth
Speaker 1: it just to read this story. Totally honest with you.
Speaker 1: That story shook my faith in a real way. And
Speaker 1: then this game. You of course, listen, he started ten
Speaker 1: of ten. It started great, it ended so poorly. And listen,
Speaker 1: he's not the only culprit in this, which brings us
Speaker 1: to Ben Johnson, where there were I didn't like Ben
Speaker 1: Johnson's decision early to not kick the field goal. I
Speaker 1: just think you don't have the Lions team from last year.
Speaker 1: You're also playing a team that is going to be
Speaker 1: hard to accumulate points on as evidence by the fact
Speaker 1: your offense, you know, struggled to score points throughout the night.
Speaker 1: I know they finished with twenty four. One touchdown came
Speaker 1: with two minutes left and another one was a pick six.
Speaker 1: But JJ at that, you know what I mean? There
Speaker 1: was reasona believe JJ would struggle early, and he did.
Speaker 1: But the bigger problem is, and evidently Peyton Manning peeped
Speaker 1: this on the Manning cast because of course he did.
Speaker 1: I was surprised Joe and Troy didn't. But this is
Speaker 1: going to This is a coaching note that is simply
Speaker 1: it listen. Nobody's in the Brian Callahan category. More on
Speaker 1: him later. But this was a mistake by Ben. So
Speaker 1: here's situation. He understood we've got a score before the
Speaker 1: two minute warning. Caleb almost ran it in before the
Speaker 1: two minute warning at two oh four, two oh five.
Speaker 1: They end up ruling him, you know, out of bounds
Speaker 1: at the six inch line. They then do a quick
Speaker 1: pass score. They score it two. They have one timeout.
Speaker 1: With the two minute warning and one timeout. If you
Speaker 1: force a three and out, you're gonna get the ball
Speaker 1: back without a minute left, down three points and be alive.
Speaker 1: Without the two minute warning and one timeout, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get the ball back with about twenty seconds left and
Speaker 1: be dead. It's that simple. The two minute warning must
Speaker 1: be retained in part because I think Ben challenged a
Speaker 1: play because he didn't understand the rule. Now that's a
Speaker 1: tricky rule because so let me back up to it.
Speaker 1: The rule is if someone is knee is on the
Speaker 1: ground and you touch them, they're down immediately. What Ben
Speaker 1: Saw or his guy in the booth. Saw is, oh,
Speaker 1: we didn't touch the player with who was down. We
Speaker 1: punched the ball, and we punched the ball so cleanly.
Speaker 1: It did not We never touched the player until the
Speaker 1: ball was loose. So is that a fumble? And so
Speaker 1: he challenged it and the answer is no, it's not
Speaker 1: even just touching the ball. When a player is down
Speaker 1: on the ground, he's down. So that's like a nuance
Speaker 1: of the rule. Head coach needs to know that. So
Speaker 1: like that was so that's why they only had one
Speaker 1: time out instead of two. But now we get to
Speaker 1: two h two left and Cairo Santos, who missed the
Speaker 1: field goal earlier and is not known for the strongest
Speaker 1: of legs, Demonse Ben Johnson tells him kick it out
Speaker 1: of the back of the end zone to retain the
Speaker 1: two minute warning. Kevin O'Connell tells his guy, if you
Speaker 1: can return it, return it, don't worry about the yardage,
Speaker 1: just return it to burn these two seconds sidebar. No
Speaker 1: one's ever done this, but I would encourage it. The
Speaker 1: actual sharpest play there for that returner, if he only
Speaker 1: has to burn two seconds, is to catch it and
Speaker 1: run sideways. Staying in the end zone to burn as
Speaker 1: much time as possible and then just step out the
Speaker 1: back of the end zone for a touchback or kneel
Speaker 1: it for a touchback. Then you still get the thirty
Speaker 1: five yard line. You don't risk a fumble, you burn
Speaker 1: more time because the guys have to get to you.
Speaker 1: But again, that is PhD level coaching, of which you
Speaker 1: know not everyone is here yet. That's fine. Kevin O'Connell
Speaker 1: did a great job with it. But here is the
Speaker 1: nuanced part that matters, in particular with the new touchback rules. Demonse.
Speaker 1: The new touchback.
Speaker 2: Rule is.
Speaker 1: If you kneel it in the end zone. If you
Speaker 1: kick it into the end zone and they kneel it,
Speaker 1: they get it on the thirty five. They did not
Speaker 1: change the fact that if you kick it out of bounds,
Speaker 1: you get it at the forty. So if the oh,
Speaker 1: if the single most important thing to your team is
Speaker 1: that they not be able to return this kick and
Speaker 1: you don't have a cannon legged kicker who can kick
Speaker 1: it out in the back of the end zone on command,
Speaker 1: then you don't ask him to kick it out the
Speaker 1: back of the end zone, which he might not be
Speaker 1: able to do. You ask him fire that thing forty
Speaker 1: five degree angle right out of bounds, which everyone can do.
Speaker 1: You give up five yards? Who cares you guarantee? So
Speaker 1: instead the thirty five, it's the forty that doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: What matters is now that next play happens at two two.
Speaker 1: There's nothing they can do about it. That was a
Speaker 1: mistake by Ben Johnson. I saw it in real time.
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning on the Manning cast evidently saw it in
Speaker 1: real time, and I and I thought that that was
Speaker 1: a mistake. So listen, I thought, I don't think that
Speaker 1: was like an awful first game by Ben Johnson, but
Speaker 1: the bad challenge and the trusting that Cairo Santos can
Speaker 1: just boom it out in the back of the end
Speaker 1: zone were very costly mistakes.
Speaker 2: So were you giving him as a greade in his
Speaker 2: first game?
Speaker 1: Blew a big lead offense didn't really get going after
Speaker 1: the opening script those mistakes C plus C plus C
Speaker 1: plus giving him a C plus. All right, let's spend
Speaker 1: a second on JJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say, so, after seeing that
Speaker 2: performance by JJ, what do you expect from him moving forward?
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think that the comeback and his role
Speaker 1: in it and the confidence he's going to get from it.
Speaker 1: You know, if they if they didn't get that comeback
Speaker 1: at the end and was just he threw a pick
Speaker 1: six and they lose, I think the next few weeks
Speaker 1: could be real rough. Instead, a guy whose rep coming
Speaker 1: in was just a winner, makes big plays, galvanizing force,
Speaker 1: just adds to it in his first ever NFL game.
Speaker 1: Pretty good, Like that part is really good. So I
Speaker 1: didn't think he was that impressive. I didn't think he
Speaker 1: was that good, but he had the moments which I think,
Speaker 1: are you know, super relevant and super you know, useful,
Speaker 1: And so I want to give him credit for that.
Speaker 1: Am I am? I sold entirely that, like you know,
Speaker 1: he's going to be a franchise quarterback. No, of course
Speaker 1: not yet after one game. But for what his rep was, Demons,
Speaker 1: that was an awesome start.
Speaker 3: That was description Yes for sure, will you giving let's
Speaker 3: go ahead, will Caleb.
Speaker 2: Be getting similar treatment to the Prince? You know how
Speaker 2: Trevor had bad coaching and then he had his coach
Speaker 2: and that was officially his first year.
Speaker 1: Well let's listen. I mean, if Trevor does what the
Speaker 1: Prince did, which is have an awesome second year, make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, win a playoff game, then yeah, we can
Speaker 1: just say or if Caleb does sorry, if Caleb does
Speaker 1: what Trevor did, we can just say, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: it was all on Eberflus, and I think a lot
Speaker 1: of it was on Bear's dysfunction eber flues. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying like I'm out on Kalin. I am saying
Speaker 1: that the stuff, some of the stuff that I wanted
Speaker 1: him to be just a little tighter on, I didn't see.
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Speaker 1: All right, Demanse, Let's get to the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: All right. So Chargers in the Herbert are Chargers in
Speaker 2: the Herbert Chargers and Herbert did about everything correctly against
Speaker 2: your Chiefs on Saturday? Was that Friday night? Sorry? Last
Speaker 2: week you said how important this game, how important this
Speaker 2: game was with Philly the Super Bowl rematch coming up,
Speaker 2: and you admitted that you weren't as nervous when you
Speaker 2: saw how the rest of the AFC played. How are
Speaker 2: you feeling out? This is a safe space. If you
Speaker 2: want to come out and say that you're a little worried,
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about the AFC West. I thought
Speaker 1: the Chargers played great. I think the short version of
Speaker 1: it is I thought the Chiefs played really poorly. I
Speaker 1: think the Xavier Worthy injury was not having a player
Speaker 1: for a month that you know you're not gonna have
Speaker 1: is one thing. Losing a player three plays into a
Speaker 1: game when you've built your game plan for that game
Speaker 1: around that player's skill set is a different thing, so
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean. I also think there
Speaker 1: was a true emotional You've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 1: Here we go again. You know, last year, lose Hollywood
Speaker 1: Brown before the season starts, Rashi Rice gets hurt in
Speaker 1: week four, You're going through it now. Three plays into
Speaker 1: the year, Xavier Worthy friendly fire. You know, his shoulder
Speaker 1: pops out. So I think all that, you know, played
Speaker 1: a part in how the Chiefs looked. My concerns for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are really like, because Rashi'll be back, and Worthy,
Speaker 1: I believe escaped major injury. I think Worthy could be
Speaker 1: back in two weeks. He's not gonna have surgery. He's
Speaker 1: gonna wear a harness now, he's one hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 1: It could happen again, yes, and if it happens again,
Speaker 1: he has to have surgery. And so that's the you know,
Speaker 1: that's the issue. This is. You know, my take on
Speaker 1: skinny football players is sadly. You know, there's a reason
Speaker 1: I have it. The part of the Chiefs. There are
Speaker 1: two pieces of the Chiefs game from this from Friday
Speaker 1: night that for them to win the Super Bowl have
Speaker 1: to improve. Okay, one is the running game can't be
Speaker 1: that bad, just can't be. Pachecko's gotta be better at
Speaker 1: seeing where the blocks are and hitting the hole, and
Speaker 1: I like Isaiah, He's gotta be better. So that's one
Speaker 1: piece of it. The other piece of it is that
Speaker 1: the pass rush paired with the secondary got carved up
Speaker 1: in a way I have not seen the Chiefs secondary
Speaker 1: carved up in years. Truly. That has to instantly get
Speaker 1: better if they're gonna win a championship, okay, or compete
Speaker 1: for a championship. Those are fair and legitimate. Week one concerns.
Speaker 1: What I am truly beside myself about is the commentary
Speaker 1: after that game about Patrick and this is where I
Speaker 1: will die on this goddamn hill. And I apologize if
Speaker 1: it sounds like I'm in reruns here, but I have
Speaker 1: to just very quickly give folks the sequence of the
Speaker 1: last twenty six months in the NFL or so and
Speaker 1: how many people just have the total inability to remember
Speaker 1: their own opinions. Okay. Going into the twenty twenty two season,
Speaker 1: there was legitimate chatter about, ah, will the Chiefs take
Speaker 1: a massive step back without Tyreek Hill? What will Patrick
Speaker 1: look like without Tyreek Hill. How will Patrick and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs respond to not having that weapon and losing the
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game the way they did? He responded by
Speaker 1: winning League MVP, setting the still standing record for most
Speaker 1: total yards in a season, and then in the postseason
Speaker 1: beating the team that beat him the previous year on
Speaker 1: a bomb ankle, and then playing a perfect Super Bowl
Speaker 1: to the tune of thirty eight points. And then in
Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty three, folks said, I can't I
Speaker 1: can't doubt Patrick, two time MVP, two times Super Bowl MVP. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's February of twenty twenty three, it is now. You
Speaker 1: then go to January of twenty twenty four, again not
Speaker 1: ages ago, and the general consensus is this is the
Speaker 1: worst Chiefs team of the Mahomes zero. They are super vulnerable,
Speaker 1: They no one can catch the ball. And then and
Speaker 1: they're underdogs in three consecutive playoff games. People look at
Speaker 1: the Bills. They have to go to Buffalo, the Bills
Speaker 1: have the better team, and Patrick outplays Josh and wins.
Speaker 1: They have to go to Baltimore. Baltimore as a far
Speaker 1: better team and Patrick out plays Lamar and wins. And
Speaker 1: then in overt in the Super Bowl, executes another ten
Speaker 1: point comeback, plays another perfect fourth quarter in overtime, wins
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and in February, February of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: everyone agrees, all right, I'm really never doubting Patrick again,
Speaker 1: I promise. And then last year happens and the Chiefs
Speaker 1: win games but look funny doing it, and then there
Speaker 1: is real doubt once again. And then the AFC Championship
Speaker 1: Game rolls around and a Chiefs team that hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to score more than thirty points all year puts
Speaker 1: thirty two on Buffalo, and Patrick out plays Josh to
Speaker 1: get to his third straight Super Bowl. And in February
Speaker 1: of this year, two games ago, the universally held consensus
Speaker 1: is the following. Patrick Mahomes is one game away from
Speaker 1: arguably from having a real argument he's the greatest player
Speaker 1: of all time because of the three peat. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: are worse than Philadelphia at running back, offensive line, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: defensive line defense as a whole. But I'm picking the
Speaker 1: Chiefs because you can't bet against Patrick. They're the favorites
Speaker 1: because of that, they're the media pick because of that.
Speaker 1: That's two games go, he walks into that game with
Speaker 1: everyone saying, all right, we cant like he's he's elevating.
Speaker 1: He's in a different class than Josh, who's beaten four
Speaker 1: times now Lamar, who had another tough playoff moment, all
Speaker 1: of it two games ago. They then get crushed in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, have a rough week one, and now
Speaker 1: all those same fucking people are like, all right, you know,
Speaker 1: let's be serious. Josh and Lamar, they they've elevated past him.
Speaker 1: Just remember your own goddamn takes. People. It was February
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five that you after they won again
Speaker 1: to get to the third straight Super Bowl for a
Speaker 1: team that everyone acknowledges he's the only player in the
Speaker 1: league that could have won seventeen games with that team
Speaker 1: had that team in the Super Bowl. Everyone said, he's
Speaker 1: in a different class of player, and we are so fickle,
Speaker 1: and so what have you done for me lately? That
Speaker 1: Two games later, one of which, by the way, Demonse
Speaker 1: he was the best player for the chief sint he
Speaker 1: played awesome Friday night, people are like, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Mahomes. It's gonna drive me insane. Two
Speaker 1: games ago, you thought he was a game away from
Speaker 1: being the goat. Now you have him as the fifth
Speaker 1: best quarterback in football presently. And I come across as
Speaker 1: an apologist because I'm the only person that remembers these things.
Speaker 1: Evidently all of you in the media that picked the
Speaker 1: Chiefs in the Super Bowl did it because of him.
Speaker 1: You thought the Eagles were better everywhere else, and now
Speaker 1: that same guy, you're like, I don't know. It's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: It's a sad state of affairs. That three games ago,
Speaker 1: folks said, I mean, Josh Patrick, how can you even
Speaker 1: make an argument? And now again, think about that late
Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty five. We are in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Everyone set their swords down and said, okay, listen, Patrick's
Speaker 1: best player in the world. And then because he played
Speaker 1: poorly in his fifth Super Bowl, third consecutive and Josh
Speaker 1: was playing golf, folks are like, I don't know. And
Speaker 1: then one week, one game, and now it's the general consensus.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a crazy, crazy turn of events.
Speaker 2: Man. You think because it was like a shootout with
Speaker 2: Baltimore and Buffalo, everybody's like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh was unbelievable in that game. Lamar was unbelievable
Speaker 1: in that game. I'm not doubting that. I just want.
Speaker 1: I just want people again. I am not Well, what
Speaker 1: I don't want is this. I'm not trying to live
Speaker 1: off twenty eighteen and be like, well, Patrick has a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl from five years ago and Josh and Lamar don't.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to live off this calendar year a few
Speaker 1: games ago. So dumb. It's so so so dumb. And
Speaker 1: today spoiler alert on TV on Mahomes Mountain, I'm still
Speaker 1: gonna have Mahomes at the top, and people are gonna
Speaker 1: call it outrageous. People are going to say it's outrageous,
Speaker 1: like Colin is saying Josh is the most talented player
Speaker 1: he's ever seen. Simmons is saying Josh's best quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league. Again, what were you guys saying two games ago?
Speaker 1: Ask it? Go look check the archives.
Speaker 2: Is talented the same thing as winningest. Oh, Because I
Speaker 2: do feel like Josh Allen has more of the athletic gifts.
Speaker 2: I should say Patrick Mahomes obviously gifted, but.
Speaker 1: Then why does it so? Then? But then but that
Speaker 1: that's to me, I mean, we can we can walk
Speaker 1: down that path But then that's almost an insult to Josh,
Speaker 1: because Josh a few of these games has had the
Speaker 1: better roster. In all of the games, he's had the
Speaker 1: better defense. In one of the games he was at home.
Speaker 1: So if he's the better physical talent, it's a fair
Speaker 1: fight teammate wise, why can he not win? It's just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's that's I wouldn't if
Speaker 1: I were a Josh Allen fan, I wouldn't want that
Speaker 1: to be the argument. My guy's actually the most talented
Speaker 1: but just can't win like that. I'd rather it be
Speaker 1: my guy's an all time, all time talent. Your guy
Speaker 1: just is superhuman. But I don't. I don't know, all right.
Speaker 1: By the way, I am so excited. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: And as you guys know, I don't I'm not a
Speaker 1: I'm not a press pass guy. Now. Would I be
Speaker 1: a you know, the you know Kelsey or Mahomes sweet
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Speaker 1: I think because of some of the people sitting there, you,
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Speaker 1: let's get to the game of the weekend, Bill's Ravens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the game didn't disappoint obviously, Buffalo came back
Speaker 2: against my Ravens. That fifteen point lead erased harball has
Speaker 2: now blown seventeen double digit second half leads. Bigger story
Speaker 2: here is the Bills win? Or is it the Ravens loss?
Speaker 1: What do you think the bigger story is?
Speaker 2: The bigger story here is oh my gosh, the Ravens
Speaker 2: gotta stop shooting themselves in the foot. The penalties and
Speaker 2: just the fun. The penalties are just so frustrating the
Speaker 2: penalties and just how we move when we need something.
Speaker 2: The Bills have the momentum, they're coming back, and we're
Speaker 2: running end rounds with Save Flowers just rather get a
Speaker 2: first down.
Speaker 1: And well, I'm glad you did you bring up that
Speaker 1: end around with Jay Flowers the because I from what
Speaker 1: I said on the show yesterday, or did that bother
Speaker 1: you organically much? Yeah? That play Demons is like lost
Speaker 1: in the conversation surrounding the game. That was insane, Like
Speaker 1: you need one first down to win the game. Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry is killing them. I understand Henry got stuffed on
Speaker 1: first down. You cannot use one of your downs Onsea Flowers,
Speaker 1: You just can't. It's gotta be lamar ball in his hands,
Speaker 1: you know, if see someone open throws it or run
Speaker 1: or Derrick Henry. So that I agree with entirely, and
Speaker 1: I also agree with you the biggest stories of the
Speaker 1: Ravens loss because the Bills listen. Josh Allen is an
Speaker 1: unbelievable player, and since he stopped turning the ball over.
Speaker 1: He stopped being a roller coaster and I stopped calling
Speaker 1: him one. Like I've been fair about Josh. Josh always
Speaker 1: had this amazing talent. He was a little too high
Speaker 1: variants of a player early. He removed some of that
Speaker 1: variants and now he's just a killer. So the Bill's
Speaker 1: coming back is not that shocking. The Bill's defense looking
Speaker 1: as bad as it did for the vast majority of
Speaker 1: that game is actually a little concerning. Like, weirdly, if
Speaker 1: I were a Bills fandomond, I would be over the moon,
Speaker 1: thrilled about the win. And you have the tiebreaker and
Speaker 1: you have the easier schedule. You've never had the one
Speaker 1: seed since you've been since you've had Josh Allen, you
Speaker 1: now have a real shot at it this year. Like
Speaker 1: all of that is super positive, But deep down I'd
Speaker 1: be like, yikes, that defense like that, that's a bit
Speaker 1: of a concern. But the story is Baltimore once again
Speaker 1: inventing a way to lose because they this is what
Speaker 1: they do. And I know Harbaugh. Harbaugh tried to make
Speaker 1: the point essentially that at Harbaugh tried to make the
Speaker 1: point that, yeah, we've blown a lot of big leads,
Speaker 1: but we have a lot of big leads. Like how fair?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like we we're in this
Speaker 1: position more than most. Mike Sando has this these figures.
Speaker 1: I think it's good. Since the start of the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two season, there are seven teams demanse who have
Speaker 1: had multiple score fourth quarter leads at least twenty times. Okay,
Speaker 1: so seven teams have had multiple score fourth quarter leads
Speaker 1: at least twenty times, and Harbaugh is right that the
Speaker 1: Ravens have the most. Most of them. The Bengals and
Speaker 1: the Bills have twenty one, the Lions have twenty two,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have twenty four, the Niners have twenty five,
Speaker 1: the Eagles have twenty eight, and the Ravens have thirty one.
Speaker 1: So that is a lot. Here's the problem, though, record
Speaker 1: in those games from best to worst, the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: twenty four and oh and honestly, I just did a
Speaker 1: whole Mahomes thing. I don't need to do it again.
Speaker 1: That's the least surprising stat in the world. Because while
Speaker 1: it's been a while since the Chiefs have been able
Speaker 1: to generate some big lead, the idea, I can't even
Speaker 1: conceptualize what it would look like for the Chiefs to
Speaker 1: blow a big lead. No, for you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs to be up thirteen in the fourth
Speaker 1: and lose the like with Patrick. It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna make those mistakes. And Andy obviously
Speaker 1: deserves credit for that too. But the Chiefs are twenty
Speaker 1: four and oh. The next best is the Eagles twenty
Speaker 1: seven and one, then the Line twenty one and one,
Speaker 1: the Bengals twenty and one, the Niners twenty three and two,
Speaker 1: and the second worst is the Bills at nineteen and
Speaker 1: two and then the Ravens at twenty five and six.
Speaker 1: So yes, the Ravens have had more, slightly more opportunities,
Speaker 1: but the Chiefs have never lost in the last three
Speaker 1: years in that spot. The Eagles, Lions, and Bengals have
Speaker 1: lost once, the Niners and Bills have lost twice, and
Speaker 1: the Ravens have lost six times. That's not nothing. It's
Speaker 1: just not nothing. And I don't I don't know that
Speaker 1: the hardball Lamar combo is gonna get over the hump man.
Speaker 1: I just don't. And it's Lamar's obviously, you know, just
Speaker 1: getting better as a player, getting better in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: like I also thought, demons, how did you feel when
Speaker 1: you saw hardball was punting on fourth and two and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy to say looking back at the game, like,
Speaker 2: definitely got to go for that, but also we weren't
Speaker 2: stopping them, so it probably does make more sense to
Speaker 2: go for it in that situation because the Bills have
Speaker 2: just been been doing everything they wanted. So it's it's
Speaker 2: not fourth and five.
Speaker 1: Well, and here's the other piece, and I.
Speaker 2: Go Lamar and Derrick Henry and.
Speaker 1: I know Lamar said he was cramping. But what you
Speaker 1: can do there is because the Bills used a timeout.
Speaker 1: They use the timeout, you get two minutes there to
Speaker 1: kind of recover. You then trot your offense out, try
Speaker 1: to draw them off sides forty seconds to recover. If
Speaker 1: you don't call timeout, another two minutes to recover, and
Speaker 1: then you got to go for it because if you
Speaker 1: if you don't get it, you might get the ball back,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you don't get it
Speaker 1: and they score, you get the ball back. And if
Speaker 1: you do get it, the game's over. And here's my
Speaker 1: only criticism of Lamar from that game. My only criticism
Speaker 1: when he threw the pass on third and nine where
Speaker 1: he did three yards short of this, I assumed.
Speaker 3: I think it was actually the Hopkins I think and
Speaker 3: talked to him, Yeah it was. Yeah, I assumed he
Speaker 3: threw it there because he like obviously correct, but he
Speaker 3: was comfortable throwing it short of the sticks because it's
Speaker 3: four down territory, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, that's what I assumed was the case. If you're
Speaker 1: not if you don't know you're going for it, you
Speaker 1: can't and you can't throw short of the sticks there,
Speaker 1: like you've got to try to go get the first down.
Speaker 1: I also have a question for you to want say,
Speaker 1: and if the answer is had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the game, that's fine. You sent out a tweet an
Speaker 1: hour into the game that said that that had a superhero,
Speaker 1: a bowl of ramen maybe, and then a trophy. Before
Speaker 1: you tell me what that is, I have a question.
Speaker 1: Is that a bowl of ramen in the in the picture.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a ball. It's like, was it specifically?
Speaker 1: Are you are you going to tell us what that was?
Speaker 2: I was about to eat.
Speaker 1: I knew it.
Speaker 2: I was good. Yes, we come out and be fair. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: everything to do with the game. I was tweeting super
Speaker 2: Bowl Champs. I thought the Bravens is gonna win the game.
Speaker 2: That's why I left it cryptic.
Speaker 1: But super Bowl Champs, it's I had it totally wrong.
Speaker 1: I thought I had it totally wrong, and I thought
Speaker 1: our producers were gonna laugh. What people don't know about
Speaker 1: you is, while you're not what I would call a chef,
Speaker 1: you do consider yourself a bit of like an elite. Yes,
Speaker 1: Like I had eggs and different ramas, and I honestly
Speaker 1: thought you were watching the game and made yourself like
Speaker 1: a great Ramen meal watching it and were like calling
Speaker 1: yourself like the king of making Ramen noodles. I swear
Speaker 1: to god, that's what I thought. I now, super Bowl Champ,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. All right, that's pretty good. Okay, all right?
Speaker 1: Do you have a you have a Derreck Henry tweet
Speaker 1: for me or to not tweet a question?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, um yeah, oh yeah. So aside from the fumble,
Speaker 2: Henry looked good as ever. Obviously, he had one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty nine yards and two touchdowns. Do you think
Speaker 2: that it's safe to say that the cliff isn't coming
Speaker 2: this year? Because you said he was getting a hold.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure doesn't seem like cliffs coming. Holy Moly, that
Speaker 1: guy is unbelievable futures, unbelievable player. Yeah, all right, the
Speaker 1: and I have no problem with Lamar shoving the fan.
Speaker 1: Neither fans shoved him. First, I have no prom not
Speaker 1: only they didn't talk about on the broadcast, Bill's fans
Speaker 1: stop throwing ship on the field. They were the they
Speaker 1: were the originators of throwing sex toys on sporting event
Speaker 1: fields before it caught off, caught fire in the w
Speaker 1: n B A and when Lamar, when Derek Henry was
Speaker 1: running for his touchdown, they threw a water bottle on
Speaker 1: the field. They famously threw snowballs at the Chiefs, like
Speaker 1: icy snow. Like, stop throwing stuff on the field, Like
Speaker 1: I have to listen every year to how Buffalo's got
Speaker 1: the greatest fans in the world because it's cold there
Speaker 1: and they shovel the stadium for him, Like, stop throwing
Speaker 1: stuff on the field. All right, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: other biggest game of the weekend before we do quick
Speaker 1: hitters on the rest.
Speaker 2: So Green Bay backed up their preseason hype by dominating
Speaker 2: the Lions thanks to Michael Parsons on defense, at Jordan
Speaker 2: Love on that offense, Michael Parsons was limited though. So
Speaker 2: on the other hand, you had some doubts about Detroit
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the season or preseason, should I say,
Speaker 2: that seemed to come to life. It seemed to be justified.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so to me, listen, Micah was unbelievable. Mike had
Speaker 1: the one sack, but he his pressure caused another sack.
Speaker 1: Another one of his pressures caused the interception. This whole narrative, Well,
Speaker 1: Mike is a great pass rusher, but he just kills
Speaker 1: you against the run. The Lions ran for the second
Speaker 1: for the fewest yards they've run for in almost two
Speaker 1: full calendar years. MICHAEH. Parsons is an all time great player,
Speaker 1: and uh well maybe maybe Kenny Clark for Micah, Like
Speaker 1: it's and I ain't. Kenny Clark's an excellent player. And
Speaker 1: the point that I'd been making when people were like, well,
Speaker 1: how you know, Dan Campbell tried to tell the media
Speaker 1: like we were actually happy Kenny Clark got out of there.
Speaker 1: We are more worried about him. Kenny Clark is such
Speaker 1: a good player, and he is I know Kenny Clark.
Speaker 1: I like Kenny Clark. Kenny Clark is such a good
Speaker 1: player that if you attach two first round picks to him,
Speaker 1: you can trade him for a player as good as
Speaker 1: Michah Parsons. That's how good Kenny Clark is. Kenny Clark
Speaker 1: plus two first round picks can get you a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer like Micah Parsons. So don't like this idea
Speaker 1: that Micah I was gonna have an impact was so stupid.
Speaker 1: And the Packers, if Jordan Love can just take care
Speaker 1: of the ball, is are gonna be really dangerous. The
Speaker 1: story there, though, is the Lions because not a promising
Speaker 1: first game without Ben Johnson, without Aaron Glenn, with the
Speaker 1: new interior of the offensive line and Demonse the five
Speaker 1: teams that everyone thought were gonna be great in no order, Eagles, Lions, Ravens,
Speaker 1: Bill's Chiefs. Every year one of those teams that everyone
Speaker 1: thinks it's gonna be great falls off, has a year
Speaker 1: from hell. Last year it was the Niners, the year
Speaker 1: before it was the Bengals. Like the there's always a
Speaker 1: team now some people listening right now and be like,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be your Chiefs. Maybe we'll see I trust
Speaker 1: reeing Mahomes we'll see. None of the five, oddly, demonse,
Speaker 1: I think, loved their games this weekend. The Eagles certainly
Speaker 1: didn't love how they played. The Ravens loved how they
Speaker 1: played for fifty five minutes, then hated it. The Bills
Speaker 1: feel the best, but don't love how their defense played,
Speaker 1: The Chiefs hate how they played, and the Lions really
Speaker 1: hate how they played. But of those five, I think
Speaker 1: the Lions are in the most jeopardy. I think that,
Speaker 1: and I think golf, you get them off his spot. Man,
Speaker 1: he can struggle, and they got him off his spot consistently.
Speaker 1: I didn't know, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the Lions win total dropped to
Speaker 2: eight and a half. They entered the season at ten
Speaker 2: and a half. Do you think that?
Speaker 1: I think well, I think depending on the book. Some
Speaker 1: books had them enduring the season at nine and a half,
Speaker 1: and then they lose this game, like yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Lions right now are probably a coin flip to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs in Vegas. Like that's I don't.
Speaker 2: Think that's the most reaction in one.
Speaker 1: Green Bay was favored because the game was in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: But still I just but they were faired by like
Speaker 1: one you know what I mean. So that game was
Speaker 1: considered a coin flip. So I don't think it's just
Speaker 1: the loss. I think it's how they looked all right. Ever,
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Speaker 1: A right to demons. Let's see thirty seconds ish guaranteed
Speaker 1: on each game, and then we'll you know, because we
Speaker 1: have gone long. But I said I wanted to hit
Speaker 1: something on every game, so let's hit them all go ahead.
Speaker 2: Uh, so we can help you. Wanted to start from
Speaker 2: the top. We got Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers rolled Steelers
Speaker 2: offense looked great. How real is this?
Speaker 1: I listen. I know Steelers fans want to believe the
Speaker 1: defense letting Justin Fields look like a superstar and allowing
Speaker 1: thirty points thirty that was a fluke. The offense looking amazing,
Speaker 1: that was not a fluke. I think they were both
Speaker 1: a little fluky. And I think that the defense will
Speaker 1: be better the offense will be a little worse. I
Speaker 1: also thought Aaron's comments after the game was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was happy to beat everyone in that organization. All
Speaker 1: that organization did for two years was give you every
Speaker 1: single thing you wanted. They hired your buddy, they traded
Speaker 1: for your friends, They did every single thing they could
Speaker 1: do to accommodate you. And you feel scorned because you
Speaker 1: got fired, Like, give me a break, and this whole
Speaker 1: thing of you had me fly out here to be fired.
Speaker 1: If he had fired you over the phone, you would
Speaker 1: have been justice pissed. So no, I am not yet
Speaker 1: buying stock in the Steelers. I did think Justin Fields
Speaker 1: played well.
Speaker 2: Next, your guy Bake show led a game winning drive Atlanta.
Speaker 2: You're young way who missed a field goal to win
Speaker 2: the game, Yah, or to tie the game. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think Baker played great, but he did
Speaker 1: play clutch. But the story of that game was a
Speaker 1: Mecha Buka, their first round pick, who was caught the
Speaker 1: game winner and was awesome. Like they they did something
Speaker 1: I think interesting, which is they're like, we're not drafting
Speaker 1: for need, We're drafting best player, and they thought of
Speaker 1: mecha Buka was awesome. Didn't matter that they have Godwin
Speaker 1: at some point coming back and Mike Evans, they drafted
Speaker 1: him anyway, and he made an instant impact. And I
Speaker 1: love right now now. I love Tampa getting that win
Speaker 1: without Tristan Wurfs against the only team in their division
Speaker 1: that could have any chance of competing with them, and
Speaker 1: getting it on the road. That is such a huge win.
Speaker 1: So shout out to Baker.
Speaker 2: Next uh who looked better to you? Bow Nicks are
Speaker 2: the number one pick and cam Ward.
Speaker 1: Listen, Cam Cam just has to stop throwing everything one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty miles an hour.
Speaker 2: Guards.
Speaker 1: I mean he's throwing it. He's throwing it over the
Speaker 1: middle in front of guys as hard as he can.
Speaker 1: So he's gotta calm down. That bow Nicks looks horrific.
Speaker 1: And he made one good play at the end of
Speaker 1: the half. But the story of that game is Bill
Speaker 1: Callahan or Brian Callahan, pardon me who. It's six', three
Speaker 1: there are forty seconds left in the first, half you
Speaker 1: have the, Lead you're on your own five yard, line And,
Speaker 1: denver and this is the, key only has two. Timeouts
Speaker 1: so if you run the ball three times or even take,
Speaker 1: knees you guarantee that you go into halftime with the.
Speaker 1: Lead guarantee. It, instead he has Bow knicks drop back
Speaker 1: into the. Air i'm, sorry Cam wore dropped back into
Speaker 1: the end, zone almost get. Safety throw throwing completions and
Speaker 1: They denver gets a touchdown before the. Half now somehow
Speaker 1: they had a great kick, return so they got a
Speaker 1: field goal. Anyway but so it's ten to nine before the,
Speaker 1: half And denver feels great instead of being six' to
Speaker 1: three With bow knicks being. A, MESS listen i told
Speaker 1: you GUYS that I thought denver might have a good record.
Speaker 1: Early on they could have lost, that game But the
Speaker 1: denver's offense is not what people have promised you what
Speaker 1: would be their defense Is And sean payton lay in
Speaker 1: the game going for a style points touchdown that could
Speaker 1: have cost him. The, game like IT'S just i do
Speaker 1: not believe In. THE broncos i feel better About my
Speaker 1: broncos fading even after the week.
Speaker 2: One win next only seem to Like. The Broncos your?
Speaker 2: Jags won are you more In? On trevor you wore
Speaker 2: a Heut.
Speaker 1: On bryce trevor. Was fine Bryce was bryce might have
Speaker 1: been the worst quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2: This weekend see a little clips, Of him Sir k
Speaker 2: morale on, the media like he's like watching the. Jumbo
Speaker 2: tron they said he was looking at the mini game
Speaker 2: in the middle of. THE game i.
Speaker 1: DID see I did wilds mention that. To me but
Speaker 1: it was, a, really really really rough Game. For bryce
Speaker 1: and he's the number one overall pick in. Year, three like,
Speaker 1: come on gotta. Be better jags could. BE good i told,
Speaker 1: you Guys. Division jacks jags could. Be good, oh yeah
Speaker 1: that's one of. Your bets.
Speaker 2: Next decision Uh the raiders, look Good pat patriots. Look
Speaker 2: awful what is the biggest? Story?
Speaker 1: HERE listen, I mean jent wasn't the reason gent nineteen
Speaker 1: carries thirty. Eight yards gino stood in that socket and just,
Speaker 1: delivered downfield threw for three to sixty got, you know threw,
Speaker 1: a pick got lit up just through. Delivered Downfield the
Speaker 1: patriots not being able to move the ball And that
Speaker 1: raiders defense is a five alarm. Fire Concern And drake
Speaker 1: may is officially, on Midwatch Like drake may Like not,
Speaker 1: pumpkin watch because that's not the point where he's in.
Speaker 1: His career he is on he might just not be.
Speaker 1: That good and that was a very dispiriting performance From,
Speaker 1: the patriots very dispiriting. For Them. THE raiders i told,
Speaker 1: you Guys the raiders could be.
Speaker 2: Good Though, Next uh cincinnati got bailed Out by cleveland's.
Speaker 2: Crummy Kicking is cincinnati slow starts or they come into? An?
Speaker 1: END no I mean i. THOUGHT this i thought they
Speaker 1: were worse this year than when they Lost In new england.
Speaker 1: Last year if You're, the bengals you have to feel
Speaker 1: sick like you're happy. You won But the browns moved.
Speaker 1: The ball the only And the browns didn't score more
Speaker 1: was Two passes flacco threw off guy's hands that. Got
Speaker 1: picked you Had the bengals had seven yards Yards to
Speaker 1: monsey in the. Second half they had a seven yards,
Speaker 1: second half like and it seems impossible because. They won
Speaker 1: This Is joe burrow was in the exact opposite narrative category,
Speaker 1: of mahomes, where like no matter what happens, with mahomes
Speaker 1: people are gonna find a way to pick. At it
Speaker 1: burrow's in. The opposite last year It for, burrow, was
Speaker 1: well they, don't win but he's, been amazing so what
Speaker 1: are you? Gonna say and then this week he was
Speaker 1: awful but, they won and, they're, like well he didn't,
Speaker 1: play well but, They won so what are you? Gonna,
Speaker 1: SAY like i, don't know we gotta pick one like
Speaker 1: the and SO No. I cincinnati cincinnati had the worst
Speaker 1: win of. The, weekend Okay.
Speaker 2: So dave was Committed to russ for? Week two how
Speaker 2: do you think he should play this if he plans
Speaker 2: on keeping.
Speaker 1: HIS job i actually think he should Go. TO jamis
Speaker 1: i think they don't want to Go to. DART yet
Speaker 1: i think dark they want to give him like four
Speaker 1: or five six weeks before they go. To Him but
Speaker 1: russ is, clearly done so why not Go? To jamis let,
Speaker 1: you Know give jamis a. Few games jamis might have a,
Speaker 1: Big game he'll obviously at some point play himself out,
Speaker 1: of it and then you can Go to dart because
Speaker 1: they don't want To play. DART yet i understand.
Speaker 2: That the giants think they're going. To playoff there's the
Speaker 2: playoff push this year saying like, Why, not Okay Like.
Speaker 1: Jackson, DART no i just think they Think maybe DART'S
Speaker 1: not i. THINK they i think They want dart to
Speaker 1: have another month of, like, practices, meetings film you KNOW what,
Speaker 1: i mean all, that STUFF which. I understand but so
Speaker 1: But if russ can't, Do It malik neighbors is freaking
Speaker 1: out because. Of it that's what You have Jamis For
Speaker 1: next rams Beat.
Speaker 2: The texans what was your biggest? Takeaway There.
Speaker 1: The techon's offense looked a lot Like the texans offhinse,
Speaker 1: last year which was. Not good i'd be A little
Speaker 1: i'd be A little texans, defense Unbelievable but i'd be
Speaker 1: a little WORRIED about cj And that. Texans offense that's my.
Speaker 1: Biggest takeaway and that's a game that was there for
Speaker 1: the taking for them and they couldn't.
Speaker 2: Take it Is Is danny dimes. The next You Know
Speaker 2: smith sam dornold quarterback. Revival, story Here is miami?
Speaker 1: JUST terrible I think miami's. JUST terrible i AM gonna.
Speaker 1: I Listen daniel jones was unbelievable in. THAT game i
Speaker 1: have to give, him CREDIT but i don't think anything
Speaker 1: close to. That sustainable, we'll.
Speaker 2: See, Yeah yeah And Then tula tula came out, and, said,
Speaker 2: like oh like we're still Upset with tyreek kill who
Speaker 2: it needs to Be Begging terry hill to stay on.
Speaker 1: THAT team, I mean miami's got a lot, of Problems
Speaker 1: AND daniel i would be checking, the policy, you know
Speaker 1: the terms of my home or apartment lease to see
Speaker 1: what the penalties for breaking it, early IS because i
Speaker 1: don't know how much more Time in miami he's gonna.
Speaker 2: Have. Next uh the forty nine ers are dealing with
Speaker 2: a handful of, big Injuries. Including party HOW should? I
Speaker 2: Worry Should san francisco fans be that they're looking at
Speaker 2: another season?
Speaker 1: From hell they should, be worried and they also might
Speaker 1: need a new medical or training staff. Or whatever you
Speaker 1: can't be the most injured team every single year in.
Speaker 1: The league. It's, COINCIDENCE like i don't KNOW what i
Speaker 1: don't understand anything about, sports medicine but you can't just
Speaker 1: always have guys pulling groins and calves and hamstrings and
Speaker 1: just keep the. Same trainers that's first, Of all second, of,
Speaker 1: ALL party i will begrudgingly give him credit for the
Speaker 1: final drive six for six in, the touchdown even though
Speaker 1: that touchdown pass should have been picked immediate like. It
Speaker 1: was it was a. Terrible Decision dree wooland had it
Speaker 1: and didn't, get it and that would have been his
Speaker 1: third pick and. They lost purdy was not very good in.
Speaker 1: That game now we find out he was dealing with
Speaker 1: an injury or a, couple injuries but now. NOTHING demonds
Speaker 1: i am all of a sudden about to be A
Speaker 1: Huge ue, niner fan oddly Because Somehow jimmy garoppolo Leaving
Speaker 1: the niners and instantly being terrible for some people didn't.
Speaker 1: Win Me The jimmy garoppolo ARGUMENT that i, Was, like
Speaker 1: hey he's a product Of the. Shanahan system but do
Speaker 1: you know who their backup Quarterback In san.
Speaker 2: Francisco Is It's.
Speaker 1: Mac jones Oh If mac jones starts and, looks great
Speaker 1: then everyone has. To concede i've been right. All Along
Speaker 1: If mac jones comes in and he's awesome or even,
Speaker 1: just fine then that's gotta be my final piece. Of,
Speaker 1: Evidence Also sam darnold fumbled what could have been a
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown pass off his offensive lineman's ass just
Speaker 1: dropped back the ball like nobody. Hit him he was
Speaker 1: he just ran. His hand he. Was terrible they could.
Speaker 2: Have. Won Next Uh. Saints, CARDINALS yeah.
Speaker 1: I did watch SOME because i Had the cardinals. AND
Speaker 1: survivor i wouldn't feel GREAT if i Were. THE cardinals
Speaker 1: i would feel really Bad if I'm. The saints flat.
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