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Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three sixty three.

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Speaker 1: This episode as always brought to you by our great

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Speaker 1: friends at boost Mobile. Demonsey. What a weekend. How about

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Speaker 1: that teaser crushes? Your teaser won with ease, Buddy, Well,

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Speaker 1: the Bills was a little bit of a sweat ended

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Speaker 1: up not being a sweat. It's weird to have a

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Speaker 1: team plus nine in a teaser that you're loot like

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Speaker 1: they're gonna cost you the teaser, and then they win

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Speaker 1: the game outright, But that happened Cleveland, no sweat, Dallas,

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Speaker 1: no sweat. I almos, you were on the right side

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Speaker 1: of it. I almost talked you out of it because I.

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Speaker 2: Was saying closer, right, take.

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Speaker 1: The Philly side. And because you don't think Dallas can win. Dallas,

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Speaker 1: of course you know didn't win, but could have there,

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Speaker 1: so right, teaser great. We It's not quite as good

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Speaker 1: of a win, but avoiding a loss is all almost

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Speaker 1: as good as a win. I dodged the dance through

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Speaker 1: the rain drops on the producers stupid offer this week.

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Speaker 1: I told you, listen, Travers's gonna throw him one. He's

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Speaker 1: just gonna throw.

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Speaker 2: Him one, like.

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Speaker 1: I had no doubt that the Jags are gonna win

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Speaker 1: that game, but Trevor's gonna give him one, and so

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Speaker 1: we avoided that. And despite starting the slate Friday night

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Speaker 1: with a loser case minus three for me, and then

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Speaker 1: Miami plus one just gets absolutely annihilated. And on that note,

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Speaker 1: I still will to finish the thought still winning weekend.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland plus five could have won outright, should have won outright.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to them. Raiders plus two and a half

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Speaker 1: did win outright Buffalo plus one again, folks, this is

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Speaker 1: the key to actually getting the right side of the line,

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Speaker 1: not even the right side of the game. The books

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Speaker 1: got a nigh laid for Bill's Ravens. Here's why. It

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Speaker 1: starts Demons Bills minus a point and a half. So

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Speaker 1: many people bet it. Hold on, do I have this right?

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Speaker 1: So oh yeah, so yes, so many people bet Baltimore

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Speaker 1: plus one and a half that it flips all the

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Speaker 1: way to Bills to Baltimore. Let me start over, because

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Speaker 1: I'm it's gonna be confusing for the audience. It opens

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Speaker 1: Buffalo minus one and a half at home. All the

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Speaker 1: action comes in on Baltimore getting a point and a

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Speaker 1: half enough so the line flips all the way to

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Speaker 1: Baltimore minus a point and a half, enough action comes

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Speaker 1: in on Buffalo plus one and a half that it

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Speaker 1: settles at Buffalo plus one, and then Buffalo wins by one.

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Speaker 1: And so because of that, all the early Ravens betters

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Speaker 1: getting the Ravens plus a point and a half one,

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Speaker 1: and all the late Bills betters getting the Bills plus

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Speaker 1: a point and a half or plus one one. That's

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Speaker 1: a that's the worst case scenario for the books. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, our show brought to you by our

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Speaker 1: great friends at hard Rock bet that is, you really

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Speaker 1: really want to avoid that exact scenario. But it also

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Speaker 1: if you liked Buffalo in this game and you bet

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Speaker 1: them early, you lost. If you had Buffalo minus a

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Speaker 1: point and a half, you lost. Like so, all of

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Speaker 1: that is noteworthy. Here's the other thing that's noteworthy. I

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Speaker 1: have a lot invested in the Cults being bad. I

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Speaker 1: was flirting with them being you know, having the number

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Speaker 1: one pick, certainly them missing the playoffs, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of preseason investment in that, which

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Speaker 1: means I now have Demond's a a defact do investment

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Speaker 1: in the Dolphins better be absolutely horrific Like that game

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Speaker 1: needs to have been about how bad Miami is, because

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Speaker 1: if Miami's just average, then the Colts are good and

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Speaker 1: I'm in trouble. I'm already starting.

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Speaker 2: To behind the game back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yeah, Daniel don't play the game of

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Speaker 1: his life. So all right, so all of that coming

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Speaker 1: up in the show. Here's how I want to do

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Speaker 1: these Tuesday shows. I would like, in theory for us

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Speaker 1: to spend at least twenty seconds on every single game

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Speaker 1: like that, every game of the week, and will be

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Speaker 1: addressed now maybe come week ten or eleven, if there's

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Speaker 1: a game between two truly out of iderrelevant teams, will

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Speaker 1: break that rule. But early in the season, there was

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Speaker 1: only one game that I looked at and I was like,

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Speaker 1: even twenty seconds? Is it too much on this game?

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Speaker 1: Do you know game that was? Do you have a

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Speaker 1: guess we're both teams? I'm like, do we need to

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Speaker 1: talk about it? You nailed it, You nailed it.

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Speaker 2: But that will hit this week. I feel like Arizona, Oh,

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Speaker 2: thank you for saying that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So all of my Survivor picks this week were either

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Speaker 1: Cardinals or Jags. Most Jags are our team one for

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Speaker 1: the show was Jags It is so maddening that Brian

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Speaker 1: Callahan's the worst coach I've ever seen in the in

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Speaker 1: the last decade in the NFL, because forty percent of

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Speaker 1: the million dollar pool would have been knocked out with

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Speaker 1: the Broncos losing. You add seventy five percent of the

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Speaker 1: pool had either Philly, which could have lost, Denver, which

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Speaker 1: should have lost, or Cincinnati, which was dying to lose. Instead,

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Speaker 1: every favorite one except for the Chiefs, Every big favorite

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Speaker 1: one three points or more except for the Chiefs. All

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Speaker 1: right straight to voicemail, brought to you by boost Mobile.

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Speaker 1: Syracuse beat Yukon in overtime and then head coach made

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Speaker 1: him to win sprints. Okay, Bill Belichick is imploding, is

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Speaker 1: too strong, but it's not far from what he's doing

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Speaker 1: when he talks about I'm not welcome there. Why would

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Speaker 1: they be welcome here? Because you're trying to get your

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Speaker 1: guys into the NFL. Bro and Demons question, are you

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Speaker 1: reclaiming Daniel Jones or you.

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Speaker 2: Need to see me claiming Daniel Jones? Okay, Like like

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Speaker 2: you said, we got to see what the Colts are

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Speaker 2: actually going to be about and what Miami is Uh. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll be watching him watching them.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I don't know that I'll

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Speaker 1: be watching him, at least not early on. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that they're gonna make the They didn't make the

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Speaker 1: I had six games on in front of me and

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Speaker 1: the one o'clock window this weekend called Dolphins one one

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Speaker 1: of them I did. And so we'll see, all right,

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Speaker 1: and we might have a problem.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So the Bears came. It came out looking

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Speaker 2: pretty good. Caleb had that nice drive. In the beginning

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy threw a pick six, but they still turned

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Speaker 2: it around and won. So obviously, Caleb Williams loss last night.

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Speaker 2: What was your biggest takeaway from this game?

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm officially a little concerned about Caleb. I

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Speaker 1: was not at any point last year, but the sequence

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Speaker 1: of the last ninety six hours where I listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: a subscriber. I was already a subscriber to Tyler Dunn substack.

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Speaker 1: It's like fifty bucks for the whole year support real journalism.

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Speaker 1: He is the guy if people are like, I, oh,

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Speaker 1: let me it's go long TD. Let me see if

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Speaker 1: you go to golongtd dot com if that takes you there,

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Speaker 1: I actually don't know the answer that no, so hold on,

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Speaker 1: let me see what the actual so oh no it does.

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Speaker 1: Oh maybe yeah, golongtd dot com. But it's on substack.

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Speaker 1: He is the guy who broke the story a year

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Speaker 1: ago demons that Sean McDermott tried to rally the troops

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Speaker 1: by being like the nine to eleven hijackers thing. He

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Speaker 1: has real sources, he is a real journalist. He's totally independent,

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Speaker 1: so I was already a subscriber of his. He has

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Speaker 1: released a three part book on Caleb's first year with

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Speaker 1: the Bears, It Ain't Great and it is to me

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Speaker 1: highly concerning. It also discusses it's a The person who

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Speaker 1: comes out looking the worst is Ryan Poles the GM.

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Speaker 1: Caleb doesn't look great though in it either, and it

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Speaker 1: talks about a shaky work ethic, not necessarily galvanizing leadership,

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Speaker 1: was kept from the coaching staff, that Caleb might have

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Speaker 1: the learning disability dyslexia, which there is obviously no shame

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Speaker 1: in that at all. However, one of the ways dyslexia

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Speaker 1: have trouble translating the play call from his headset to

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Speaker 1: not something that is, you know, you can't overcome, but

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Speaker 1: the reporting is that the front office kept it from

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Speaker 1: think has all this information. And if you watched last night,

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Speaker 1: then ripped an absolute laser to I don't know if

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Speaker 1: the talent demands is undeniable and hypnotizing. It just is

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Speaker 1: like and you saw that obviously throughout his remarkable collegiate career.

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Speaker 1: But his right now deficit on the pre these snap

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Speaker 1: to slow his development. And you saw that left and

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Speaker 1: right last night, that getting plays in was still a problem.

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Speaker 1: clock was still a problem. Like some things that he

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Speaker 1: better at those things have become one game in have

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Speaker 2: You don't think his decision making at all improved a

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Speaker 1: So I do think his decision making improved. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: doing the things necessary to prevent these five yard pre

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Speaker 1: And while his decision making I thought was better and

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Speaker 1: he was quicker getting the ball out, his accuracy was shaky.

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Speaker 3: He's putting a lot, he missed a lot on them,

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Speaker 1: There were a couple spots he missed guys wide open.

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Speaker 1: And so if I am being fair, which I have

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Speaker 1: to be, I I still believe in Caleb Williams. I

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Speaker 1: am less certain that superstardom is in his future. And

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Speaker 1: I think that is for me as a guy who

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Speaker 2: You don't think it might be a little a little

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Speaker 2: early with it being game one, Like if they were

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Speaker 2: to go and put it on the Lions, what would

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Speaker 2: that change stuff immediately?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm gonna look back on this and say I was,

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Speaker 1: you know, ten hours after the game in his reactionary.

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Speaker 1: But I am like I am, I understand most of

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Speaker 1: the audience has not read the Tyler Dunn story, and again,

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Speaker 1: his sub stack is golong tv dot com. I highly

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Speaker 1: It's less than that four bucks a month. It's worth

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Speaker 1: All right, Demanse, Let's get to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: All right. So Chargers in the Herbert are Chargers in

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Speaker 2: your Chiefs on Saturday? Was that Friday night? Sorry? Last

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Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about the AFC West. I thought

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Speaker 1: Here we go again. You know, last year, lose Hollywood

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Speaker 1: I have it. The part of the Chiefs. There are

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Speaker 1: better if they're gonna win a championship, okay, or compete

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Speaker 1: What I am truly beside myself about is the commentary

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Speaker 1: after that game about Patrick and this is where I

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Speaker 1: will die on this goddamn hill. And I apologize if

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Speaker 1: it sounds like I'm in reruns here, but I have

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Speaker 1: to just very quickly give folks the sequence of the

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Speaker 1: last twenty six months in the NFL or so and

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Speaker 1: how many people just have the total inability to remember

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Speaker 1: their own opinions. Okay. Going into the twenty twenty two season,

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Speaker 1: there was legitimate chatter about, ah, will the Chiefs take

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Speaker 1: a massive step back without Tyreek Hill? What will Patrick

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Speaker 1: look like without Tyreek Hill. How will Patrick and the

442
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Speaker 1: Chiefs respond to not having that weapon and losing the

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game the way they did? He responded by

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Speaker 1: winning League MVP, setting the still standing record for most

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Speaker 1: total yards in a season, and then in the postseason

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Speaker 1: beating the team that beat him the previous year on

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Speaker 1: a bomb ankle, and then playing a perfect Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: to the tune of thirty eight points. And then in

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Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty three, folks said, I can't I

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Speaker 1: can't doubt Patrick, two time MVP, two times Super Bowl MVP. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's February of twenty twenty three, it is now. You

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Speaker 1: then go to January of twenty twenty four, again not

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Speaker 1: ages ago, and the general consensus is this is the

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Speaker 1: worst Chiefs team of the Mahomes zero. They are super vulnerable,

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Speaker 1: They no one can catch the ball. And then and

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Speaker 1: they're underdogs in three consecutive playoff games. People look at

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Speaker 1: the Bills. They have to go to Buffalo, the Bills

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Speaker 1: have the better team, and Patrick outplays Josh and wins.

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Speaker 1: They have to go to Baltimore. Baltimore as a far

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Speaker 1: better team and Patrick out plays Lamar and wins. And

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Speaker 1: then in overt in the Super Bowl, executes another ten

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Speaker 1: point comeback, plays another perfect fourth quarter in overtime, wins

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and in February, February of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: everyone agrees, all right, I'm really never doubting Patrick again,

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Speaker 1: I promise. And then last year happens and the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: win games but look funny doing it, and then there

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Speaker 1: is real doubt once again. And then the AFC Championship

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Speaker 1: Game rolls around and a Chiefs team that hasn't been

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Speaker 1: able to score more than thirty points all year puts

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Speaker 1: thirty two on Buffalo, and Patrick out plays Josh to

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Speaker 1: get to his third straight Super Bowl. And in February

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Speaker 1: of this year, two games ago, the universally held consensus

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Speaker 1: is the following. Patrick Mahomes is one game away from

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Speaker 1: arguably from having a real argument he's the greatest player

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Speaker 1: of all time because of the three peat. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are worse than Philadelphia at running back, offensive line, wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: defensive line defense as a whole. But I'm picking the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs because you can't bet against Patrick. They're the favorites

479
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: because of that, they're the media pick because of that.

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Speaker 1: That's two games go, he walks into that game with

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Speaker 1: everyone saying, all right, we cant like he's he's elevating.

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Speaker 1: He's in a different class than Josh, who's beaten four

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Speaker 1: times now Lamar, who had another tough playoff moment, all

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Speaker 1: of it two games ago. They then get crushed in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, have a rough week one, and now

486
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Speaker 1: all those same fucking people are like, all right, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's be serious. Josh and Lamar, they they've elevated past him.

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Speaker 1: Just remember your own goddamn takes. People. It was February

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five that you after they won again

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Speaker 1: to get to the third straight Super Bowl for a

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Speaker 1: team that everyone acknowledges he's the only player in the

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Speaker 1: league that could have won seventeen games with that team

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Speaker 1: had that team in the Super Bowl. Everyone said, he's

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Speaker 1: in a different class of player, and we are so fickle,

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00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: and so what have you done for me lately? That

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Speaker 1: Two games later, one of which, by the way, Demonse

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Speaker 1: he was the best player for the chief sint he

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00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: played awesome Friday night, people are like, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with Mahomes. It's gonna drive me insane. Two

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Speaker 1: games ago, you thought he was a game away from

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Speaker 1: being the goat. Now you have him as the fifth

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Speaker 1: best quarterback in football presently. And I come across as

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Speaker 1: an apologist because I'm the only person that remembers these things.

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00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: Evidently all of you in the media that picked the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs in the Super Bowl did it because of him.

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Speaker 1: You thought the Eagles were better everywhere else, and now

507
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: that same guy, you're like, I don't know. It's embarrassing.

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00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: It's a sad state of affairs. That three games ago,

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Speaker 1: folks said, I mean, Josh Patrick, how can you even

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Speaker 1: make an argument? And now again, think about that late

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Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty five. We are in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Everyone set their swords down and said, okay, listen, Patrick's

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Speaker 1: best player in the world. And then because he played

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Speaker 1: poorly in his fifth Super Bowl, third consecutive and Josh

515
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: was playing golf, folks are like, I don't know. And

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Speaker 1: then one week, one game, and now it's the general consensus.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a crazy, crazy turn of events.

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Speaker 2: Man. You think because it was like a shootout with

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Speaker 2: Baltimore and Buffalo, everybody's like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh was unbelievable in that game. Lamar was unbelievable

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Speaker 1: in that game. I'm not doubting that. I just want.

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Speaker 1: I just want people again. I am not Well, what

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Speaker 1: I don't want is this. I'm not trying to live

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Speaker 1: off twenty eighteen and be like, well, Patrick has a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl from five years ago and Josh and Lamar don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to live off this calendar year a few

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00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: games ago. So dumb. It's so so so dumb. And

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Speaker 1: today spoiler alert on TV on Mahomes Mountain, I'm still

529
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: gonna have Mahomes at the top, and people are gonna

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Speaker 1: call it outrageous. People are going to say it's outrageous,

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Speaker 1: like Colin is saying Josh is the most talented player

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Speaker 1: he's ever seen. Simmons is saying Josh's best quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the league. Again, what were you guys saying two games ago?

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Speaker 1: Ask it? Go look check the archives.

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Speaker 2: Is talented the same thing as winningest. Oh, Because I

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Speaker 2: do feel like Josh Allen has more of the athletic gifts.

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Speaker 2: I should say Patrick Mahomes obviously gifted, but.

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Speaker 1: Then why does it so? Then? But then but that

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Speaker 1: that's to me, I mean, we can we can walk

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Speaker 1: down that path But then that's almost an insult to Josh,

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Speaker 1: because Josh a few of these games has had the

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Speaker 1: better roster. In all of the games, he's had the

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Speaker 1: better defense. In one of the games he was at home.

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Speaker 1: So if he's the better physical talent, it's a fair

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Speaker 1: fight teammate wise, why can he not win? It's just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's that's I wouldn't if

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Speaker 1: I were a Josh Allen fan, I wouldn't want that

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Speaker 1: to be the argument. My guy's actually the most talented

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Speaker 1: but just can't win like that. I'd rather it be

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Speaker 1: my guy's an all time, all time talent. Your guy

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Speaker 1: just is superhuman. But I don't. I don't know, all right.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I am so excited. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Kansas City on Friday, or I'm going Thursday. We're doing

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Speaker 1: the show from Kansas City on Friday and end. I

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Speaker 1: think I might stay in town to watch Chiefs Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And as you guys know, I don't I'm not a

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Speaker 1: I'm not a press pass guy. Now. Would I be

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Speaker 1: a you know, the you know Kelsey or Mahomes sweet

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Speaker 1: guy if I were invited, sure, maybe, But assuming that invite,

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Speaker 1: you know, those those those sweet seats. At this point,

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Speaker 1: I think you might have to pass an FBI background

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Speaker 1: let's get to the game of the weekend, Bill's Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the game didn't disappoint obviously, Buffalo came back

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Speaker 2: against my Ravens. That fifteen point lead erased harball has

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Speaker 2: now blown seventeen double digit second half leads. Bigger story

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Speaker 2: here is the Bills win? Or is it the Ravens loss?

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00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: What do you think the bigger story is?

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Speaker 2: The bigger story here is oh my gosh, the Ravens

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00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: gotta stop shooting themselves in the foot. The penalties and

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00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: just the fun. The penalties are just so frustrating the

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00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: penalties and just how we move when we need something.

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Speaker 2: The Bills have the momentum, they're coming back, and we're

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Speaker 2: running end rounds with Save Flowers just rather get a

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Speaker 2: first down.

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Speaker 1: And well, I'm glad you did you bring up that

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Speaker 1: end around with Jay Flowers the because I from what

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Speaker 1: I said on the show yesterday, or did that bother

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Speaker 1: you organically much? Yeah? That play Demons is like lost

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Speaker 1: in the conversation surrounding the game. That was insane, Like

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Speaker 1: you need one first down to win the game. Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry is killing them. I understand Henry got stuffed on

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Speaker 1: first down. You cannot use one of your downs Onsea Flowers,

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Speaker 1: You just can't. It's gotta be lamar ball in his hands,

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Speaker 1: you know, if see someone open throws it or run

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Speaker 1: or Derrick Henry. So that I agree with entirely, and

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Speaker 1: I also agree with you the biggest stories of the

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Speaker 1: Ravens loss because the Bills listen. Josh Allen is an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable player, and since he stopped turning the ball over.

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Speaker 1: He stopped being a roller coaster and I stopped calling

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Speaker 1: him one. Like I've been fair about Josh. Josh always

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Speaker 1: had this amazing talent. He was a little too high

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Speaker 1: variants of a player early. He removed some of that

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Speaker 1: variants and now he's just a killer. So the Bill's

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Speaker 1: coming back is not that shocking. The Bill's defense looking

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Speaker 1: as bad as it did for the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: that game is actually a little concerning. Like, weirdly, if

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Speaker 1: I were a Bills fandomond, I would be over the moon,

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Speaker 1: thrilled about the win. And you have the tiebreaker and

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Speaker 1: you have the easier schedule. You've never had the one

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Speaker 1: seed since you've been since you've had Josh Allen, you

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Speaker 1: now have a real shot at it this year. Like

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Speaker 1: all of that is super positive, But deep down I'd

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Speaker 1: be like, yikes, that defense like that, that's a bit

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Speaker 1: of a concern. But the story is Baltimore once again

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Speaker 1: inventing a way to lose because they this is what

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Speaker 1: they do. And I know Harbaugh. Harbaugh tried to make

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Speaker 1: the point essentially that at Harbaugh tried to make the

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Speaker 1: point that, yeah, we've blown a lot of big leads,

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Speaker 1: but we have a lot of big leads. Like how fair?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like we we're in this

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Speaker 1: position more than most. Mike Sando has this these figures.

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Speaker 1: I think it's good. Since the start of the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two season, there are seven teams demanse who have

646
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Speaker 1: had multiple score fourth quarter leads at least twenty times. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so seven teams have had multiple score fourth quarter leads

648
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Speaker 1: at least twenty times, and Harbaugh is right that the

649
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Speaker 1: Ravens have the most. Most of them. The Bengals and

650
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: the Bills have twenty one, the Lions have twenty two,

651
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have twenty four, the Niners have twenty five,

652
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Speaker 1: the Eagles have twenty eight, and the Ravens have thirty one.

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Speaker 1: So that is a lot. Here's the problem, though, record

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00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: in those games from best to worst, the Chiefs are

655
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Speaker 1: twenty four and oh and honestly, I just did a

656
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: whole Mahomes thing. I don't need to do it again.

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Speaker 1: That's the least surprising stat in the world. Because while

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00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: it's been a while since the Chiefs have been able

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Speaker 1: to generate some big lead, the idea, I can't even

660
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Speaker 1: conceptualize what it would look like for the Chiefs to

661
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Speaker 1: blow a big lead. No, for you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs to be up thirteen in the fourth

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00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: and lose the like with Patrick. It just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna make those mistakes. And Andy obviously

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Speaker 1: deserves credit for that too. But the Chiefs are twenty

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Speaker 1: four and oh. The next best is the Eagles twenty

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Speaker 1: seven and one, then the Line twenty one and one,

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00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: the Bengals twenty and one, the Niners twenty three and two,

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Speaker 1: and the second worst is the Bills at nineteen and

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Speaker 1: two and then the Ravens at twenty five and six.

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Speaker 1: So yes, the Ravens have had more, slightly more opportunities,

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Speaker 1: but the Chiefs have never lost in the last three

673
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Speaker 1: years in that spot. The Eagles, Lions, and Bengals have

674
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: lost once, the Niners and Bills have lost twice, and

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Speaker 1: the Ravens have lost six times. That's not nothing. It's

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Speaker 1: just not nothing. And I don't I don't know that

677
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: the hardball Lamar combo is gonna get over the hump man.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. And it's Lamar's obviously, you know, just

679
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: getting better as a player, getting better in the playoffs,

680
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: like I also thought, demons, how did you feel when

681
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: you saw hardball was punting on fourth and two and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy to say looking back at the game, like,

684
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Speaker 2: definitely got to go for that, but also we weren't

685
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Speaker 2: stopping them, so it probably does make more sense to

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Speaker 2: go for it in that situation because the Bills have

687
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: just been been doing everything they wanted. So it's it's

688
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: not fourth and five.

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Speaker 1: Well, and here's the other piece, and I.

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00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: Go Lamar and Derrick Henry and.

691
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Speaker 1: I know Lamar said he was cramping. But what you

692
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: can do there is because the Bills used a timeout.

693
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: They use the timeout, you get two minutes there to

694
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Speaker 1: kind of recover. You then trot your offense out, try

695
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: to draw them off sides forty seconds to recover. If

696
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: you don't call timeout, another two minutes to recover, and

697
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: then you got to go for it because if you

698
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 1: if you don't get it, you might get the ball back,

699
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you don't get it

700
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: and they score, you get the ball back. And if

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00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: you do get it, the game's over. And here's my

702
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: only criticism of Lamar from that game. My only criticism

703
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: when he threw the pass on third and nine where

704
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: he did three yards short of this, I assumed.

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Speaker 3: I think it was actually the Hopkins I think and

706
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: talked to him, Yeah it was. Yeah, I assumed he

707
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: threw it there because he like obviously correct, but he

708
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: was comfortable throwing it short of the sticks because it's

709
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 3: four down territory, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like, that's what I assumed was the case. If you're

711
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: not if you don't know you're going for it, you

712
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: can't and you can't throw short of the sticks there,

713
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: like you've got to try to go get the first down.

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Speaker 1: I also have a question for you to want say,

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Speaker 1: and if the answer is had nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: the game, that's fine. You sent out a tweet an

717
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: hour into the game that said that that had a superhero,

718
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: a bowl of ramen maybe, and then a trophy. Before

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Speaker 1: you tell me what that is, I have a question.

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Speaker 1: Is that a bowl of ramen in the in the picture.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a ball. It's like, was it specifically?

722
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Speaker 1: Are you are you going to tell us what that was?

723
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Speaker 2: I was about to eat.

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Speaker 1: I knew it.

725
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Speaker 2: I was good. Yes, we come out and be fair. Yes, yeah,

726
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 2: everything to do with the game. I was tweeting super

727
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 2: Bowl Champs. I thought the Bravens is gonna win the game.

728
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Speaker 2: That's why I left it cryptic.

729
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: But super Bowl Champs, it's I had it totally wrong.

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Speaker 1: I thought I had it totally wrong, and I thought

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Speaker 1: our producers were gonna laugh. What people don't know about

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Speaker 1: you is, while you're not what I would call a chef,

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Speaker 1: you do consider yourself a bit of like an elite. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Like I had eggs and different ramas, and I honestly

735
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: thought you were watching the game and made yourself like

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Speaker 1: a great Ramen meal watching it and were like calling

737
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: yourself like the king of making Ramen noodles. I swear

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Speaker 1: to god, that's what I thought. I now, super Bowl Champ,

739
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. All right, that's pretty good. Okay, all right?

740
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: Do you have a you have a Derreck Henry tweet

741
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: for me or to not tweet a question?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, um yeah, oh yeah. So aside from the fumble,

743
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: Henry looked good as ever. Obviously, he had one hundred

744
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 2: and sixty nine yards and two touchdowns. Do you think

745
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 2: that it's safe to say that the cliff isn't coming

746
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: this year? Because you said he was getting a hold.

747
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: Sure, sure doesn't seem like cliffs coming. Holy Moly, that

748
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: guy is unbelievable futures, unbelievable player. Yeah, all right, the

749
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: and I have no problem with Lamar shoving the fan.

750
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: Neither fans shoved him. First, I have no prom not

751
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: only they didn't talk about on the broadcast, Bill's fans

752
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: stop throwing ship on the field. They were the they

753
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: were the originators of throwing sex toys on sporting event

754
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: fields before it caught off, caught fire in the w

755
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Speaker 1: n B A and when Lamar, when Derek Henry was

756
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: running for his touchdown, they threw a water bottle on

757
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: the field. They famously threw snowballs at the Chiefs, like

758
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: icy snow. Like, stop throwing stuff on the field, Like

759
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: I have to listen every year to how Buffalo's got

760
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: the greatest fans in the world because it's cold there

761
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 1: and they shovel the stadium for him, Like, stop throwing

762
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: stuff on the field. All right, let's talk about the

763
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: other biggest game of the weekend before we do quick

764
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Speaker 1: hitters on the rest.

765
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Speaker 2: So Green Bay backed up their preseason hype by dominating

766
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Speaker 2: the Lions thanks to Michael Parsons on defense, at Jordan

767
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: Love on that offense, Michael Parsons was limited though. So

768
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: on the other hand, you had some doubts about Detroit

769
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the season or preseason, should I say,

770
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: that seemed to come to life. It seemed to be justified.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so to me, listen, Micah was unbelievable. Mike had

772
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: the one sack, but he his pressure caused another sack.

773
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: Another one of his pressures caused the interception. This whole narrative, Well,

774
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: Mike is a great pass rusher, but he just kills

775
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: you against the run. The Lions ran for the second

776
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: for the fewest yards they've run for in almost two

777
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Speaker 1: full calendar years. MICHAEH. Parsons is an all time great player,

778
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Speaker 1: and uh well maybe maybe Kenny Clark for Micah, Like

779
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: it's and I ain't. Kenny Clark's an excellent player. And

780
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: the point that I'd been making when people were like, well,

781
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: how you know, Dan Campbell tried to tell the media

782
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: like we were actually happy Kenny Clark got out of there.

783
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: We are more worried about him. Kenny Clark is such

784
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: a good player, and he is I know Kenny Clark.

785
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: I like Kenny Clark. Kenny Clark is such a good

786
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: player that if you attach two first round picks to him,

787
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: you can trade him for a player as good as

788
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Speaker 1: Michah Parsons. That's how good Kenny Clark is. Kenny Clark

789
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Speaker 1: plus two first round picks can get you a Hall

790
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: of Famer like Micah Parsons. So don't like this idea

791
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: that Micah I was gonna have an impact was so stupid.

792
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: And the Packers, if Jordan Love can just take care

793
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: of the ball, is are gonna be really dangerous. The

794
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: story there, though, is the Lions because not a promising

795
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: first game without Ben Johnson, without Aaron Glenn, with the

796
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Speaker 1: new interior of the offensive line and Demonse the five

797
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: teams that everyone thought were gonna be great in no order, Eagles, Lions, Ravens,

798
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Speaker 1: Bill's Chiefs. Every year one of those teams that everyone

799
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Speaker 1: thinks it's gonna be great falls off, has a year

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Speaker 1: from hell. Last year it was the Niners, the year

801
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: before it was the Bengals. Like the there's always a

802
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: team now some people listening right now and be like,

803
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be your Chiefs. Maybe we'll see I trust

804
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: reeing Mahomes we'll see. None of the five, oddly, demonse,

805
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Speaker 1: I think, loved their games this weekend. The Eagles certainly

806
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: didn't love how they played. The Ravens loved how they

807
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: played for fifty five minutes, then hated it. The Bills

808
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: feel the best, but don't love how their defense played,

809
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: The Chiefs hate how they played, and the Lions really

810
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: hate how they played. But of those five, I think

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Speaker 1: the Lions are in the most jeopardy. I think that,

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00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: and I think golf, you get them off his spot. Man,

813
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: he can struggle, and they got him off his spot consistently.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say the Lions win total dropped to

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00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: eight and a half. They entered the season at ten

817
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: and a half. Do you think that?

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Speaker 1: I think well, I think depending on the book. Some

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Speaker 1: books had them enduring the season at nine and a half,

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00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: and then they lose this game, like yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Lions right now are probably a coin flip to

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs in Vegas. Like that's I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think that's the most reaction in one.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay was favored because the game was in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: But still I just but they were faired by like

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Speaker 1: one you know what I mean. So that game was

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Speaker 1: considered a coin flip. So I don't think it's just

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Speaker 1: A right to demons. Let's see thirty seconds ish guaranteed

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00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: on each game, and then we'll you know, because we

844
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Speaker 1: have gone long. But I said I wanted to hit

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Speaker 1: something on every game, so let's hit them all go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Uh, so we can help you. Wanted to start from

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Speaker 2: the top. We got Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers rolled Steelers

848
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Speaker 2: offense looked great. How real is this?

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Speaker 1: I listen. I know Steelers fans want to believe the

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00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: defense letting Justin Fields look like a superstar and allowing

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Speaker 1: thirty points thirty that was a fluke. The offense looking amazing,

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00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: that was not a fluke. I think they were both

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Speaker 1: a little fluky. And I think that the defense will

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00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: be better the offense will be a little worse. I

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Speaker 1: also thought Aaron's comments after the game was like, yeah,

856
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: I was happy to beat everyone in that organization. All

857
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: that organization did for two years was give you every

858
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: single thing you wanted. They hired your buddy, they traded

859
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: for your friends, They did every single thing they could

860
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: do to accommodate you. And you feel scorned because you

861
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: got fired, Like, give me a break, and this whole

862
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: thing of you had me fly out here to be fired.

863
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: If he had fired you over the phone, you would

864
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: have been justice pissed. So no, I am not yet

865
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: buying stock in the Steelers. I did think Justin Fields

866
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: played well.

867
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: Next, your guy Bake show led a game winning drive Atlanta.

868
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: You're young way who missed a field goal to win

869
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: the game, Yah, or to tie the game. I'm sorry.

870
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think Baker played great, but he did

871
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: play clutch. But the story of that game was a

872
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: Mecha Buka, their first round pick, who was caught the

873
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: game winner and was awesome. Like they they did something

874
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: I think interesting, which is they're like, we're not drafting

875
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: for need, We're drafting best player, and they thought of

876
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: mecha Buka was awesome. Didn't matter that they have Godwin

877
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: at some point coming back and Mike Evans, they drafted

878
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: him anyway, and he made an instant impact. And I

879
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 1: love right now now. I love Tampa getting that win

880
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: without Tristan Wurfs against the only team in their division

881
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: that could have any chance of competing with them, and

882
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: getting it on the road. That is such a huge win.

883
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: So shout out to Baker.

884
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: Next uh who looked better to you? Bow Nicks are

885
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: the number one pick and cam Ward.

886
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: Listen, Cam Cam just has to stop throwing everything one

887
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty miles an hour.

888
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: Guards.

889
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: I mean he's throwing it. He's throwing it over the

890
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: middle in front of guys as hard as he can.

891
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: So he's gotta calm down. That bow Nicks looks horrific.

892
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: And he made one good play at the end of

893
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: the half. But the story of that game is Bill

894
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: Callahan or Brian Callahan, pardon me who. It's six', three

895
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: there are forty seconds left in the first, half you

896
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: have the, Lead you're on your own five yard, line And,

897
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: denver and this is the, key only has two. Timeouts

898
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: so if you run the ball three times or even take,

899
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: knees you guarantee that you go into halftime with the.

900
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: Lead guarantee. It, instead he has Bow knicks drop back

901
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: into the. Air i'm, sorry Cam wore dropped back into

902
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: the end, zone almost get. Safety throw throwing completions and

903
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: They denver gets a touchdown before the. Half now somehow

904
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: they had a great kick, return so they got a

905
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: field goal. Anyway but so it's ten to nine before the,

906
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: half And denver feels great instead of being six' to

907
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: three With bow knicks being. A, MESS listen i told

908
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: you GUYS that I thought denver might have a good record.

909
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: Early on they could have lost, that game But the

910
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: denver's offense is not what people have promised you what

911
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: would be their defense Is And sean payton lay in

912
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: the game going for a style points touchdown that could

913
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: have cost him. The, game like IT'S just i do

914
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: not believe In. THE broncos i feel better About my

915
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: broncos fading even after the week.

916
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: One win next only seem to Like. The Broncos your?

917
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: Jags won are you more In? On trevor you wore

918
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: a Heut.

919
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: On bryce trevor. Was fine Bryce was bryce might have

920
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: been the worst quarterback in the league.

921
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: This weekend see a little clips, Of him Sir k

922
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: morale on, the media like he's like watching the. Jumbo

923
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: tron they said he was looking at the mini game

924
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: in the middle of. THE game i.

925
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: DID see I did wilds mention that. To me but

926
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: it was, a, really really really rough Game. For bryce

927
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: and he's the number one overall pick in. Year, three like,

928
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: come on gotta. Be better jags could. BE good i told,

929
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: you Guys. Division jacks jags could. Be good, oh yeah

930
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: that's one of. Your bets.

931
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: Next decision Uh the raiders, look Good pat patriots. Look

932
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: awful what is the biggest? Story?

933
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: HERE listen, I mean jent wasn't the reason gent nineteen

934
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: carries thirty. Eight yards gino stood in that socket and just,

935
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: delivered downfield threw for three to sixty got, you know threw,

936
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: a pick got lit up just through. Delivered Downfield the

937
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: patriots not being able to move the ball And that

938
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: raiders defense is a five alarm. Fire Concern And drake

939
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: may is officially, on Midwatch Like drake may Like not,

940
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: pumpkin watch because that's not the point where he's in.

941
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: His career he is on he might just not be.

942
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: That good and that was a very dispiriting performance From,

943
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: the patriots very dispiriting. For Them. THE raiders i told,

944
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: you Guys the raiders could be.

945
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: Good Though, Next uh cincinnati got bailed Out by cleveland's.

946
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: Crummy Kicking is cincinnati slow starts or they come into? An?

947
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: END no I mean i. THOUGHT this i thought they

948
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: were worse this year than when they Lost In new england.

949
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: Last year if You're, the bengals you have to feel

950
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: sick like you're happy. You won But the browns moved.

951
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: The ball the only And the browns didn't score more

952
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: was Two passes flacco threw off guy's hands that. Got

953
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: picked you Had the bengals had seven yards Yards to

954
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: monsey in the. Second half they had a seven yards,

955
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: second half like and it seems impossible because. They won

956
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: This Is joe burrow was in the exact opposite narrative category,

957
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: of mahomes, where like no matter what happens, with mahomes

958
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: people are gonna find a way to pick. At it

959
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: burrow's in. The opposite last year It for, burrow, was

960
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: well they, don't win but he's, been amazing so what

961
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: are you? Gonna say and then this week he was

962
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: awful but, they won and, they're, like well he didn't,

963
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: play well but, They won so what are you? Gonna,

964
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: SAY like i, don't know we gotta pick one like

965
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: the and SO No. I cincinnati cincinnati had the worst

966
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: win of. The, weekend Okay.

967
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: So dave was Committed to russ for? Week two how

968
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: do you think he should play this if he plans

969
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: on keeping.

970
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: HIS job i actually think he should Go. TO jamis

971
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: i think they don't want to Go to. DART yet

972
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: i think dark they want to give him like four

973
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: or five six weeks before they go. To Him but

974
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: russ is, clearly done so why not Go? To jamis let,

975
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: you Know give jamis a. Few games jamis might have a,

976
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: Big game he'll obviously at some point play himself out,

977
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: of it and then you can Go to dart because

978
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: they don't want To play. DART yet i understand.

979
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 2: That the giants think they're going. To playoff there's the

980
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: playoff push this year saying like, Why, not Okay Like.

981
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: Jackson, DART no i just think they Think maybe DART'S

982
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: not i. THINK they i think They want dart to

983
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: have another month of, like, practices, meetings film you KNOW what,

984
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: i mean all, that STUFF which. I understand but so

985
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: But if russ can't, Do It malik neighbors is freaking

986
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: out because. Of it that's what You have Jamis For

987
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: next rams Beat.

988
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: The texans what was your biggest? Takeaway There.

989
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: The techon's offense looked a lot Like the texans offhinse,

990
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: last year which was. Not good i'd be A little

991
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: i'd be A little texans, defense Unbelievable but i'd be

992
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: a little WORRIED about cj And that. Texans offense that's my.

993
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: Biggest takeaway and that's a game that was there for

994
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: the taking for them and they couldn't.

995
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: Take it Is Is danny dimes. The next You Know

996
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: smith sam dornold quarterback. Revival, story Here is miami?

997
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: JUST terrible I think miami's. JUST terrible i AM gonna.

998
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: I Listen daniel jones was unbelievable in. THAT game i

999
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: have to give, him CREDIT but i don't think anything

1000
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: close to. That sustainable, we'll.

1001
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 2: See, Yeah yeah And Then tula tula came out, and, said,

1002
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 2: like oh like we're still Upset with tyreek kill who

1003
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: it needs to Be Begging terry hill to stay on.

1004
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: THAT team, I mean miami's got a lot, of Problems

1005
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: AND daniel i would be checking, the policy, you know

1006
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: the terms of my home or apartment lease to see

1007
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: what the penalties for breaking it, early IS because i

1008
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: don't know how much more Time in miami he's gonna.

1009
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: Have. Next uh the forty nine ers are dealing with

1010
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: a handful of, big Injuries. Including party HOW should? I

1011
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: Worry Should san francisco fans be that they're looking at

1012
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: another season?

1013
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: From hell they should, be worried and they also might

1014
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: need a new medical or training staff. Or whatever you

1015
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: can't be the most injured team every single year in.

1016
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: The league. It's, COINCIDENCE like i don't KNOW what i

1017
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: don't understand anything about, sports medicine but you can't just

1018
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: always have guys pulling groins and calves and hamstrings and

1019
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: just keep the. Same trainers that's first, Of all second, of,

1020
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: ALL party i will begrudgingly give him credit for the

1021
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: final drive six for six in, the touchdown even though

1022
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: that touchdown pass should have been picked immediate like. It

1023
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: was it was a. Terrible Decision dree wooland had it

1024
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: and didn't, get it and that would have been his

1025
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: third pick and. They lost purdy was not very good in.

1026
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: That game now we find out he was dealing with

1027
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: an injury or a, couple injuries but now. NOTHING demonds

1028
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: i am all of a sudden about to be A

1029
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: Huge ue, niner fan oddly Because Somehow jimmy garoppolo Leaving

1030
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: the niners and instantly being terrible for some people didn't.

1031
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: Win Me The jimmy garoppolo ARGUMENT that i, Was, like

1032
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: hey he's a product Of the. Shanahan system but do

1033
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: you know who their backup Quarterback In san.

1034
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: Francisco Is It's.

1035
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:28,560
Speaker 1: Mac jones Oh If mac jones starts and, looks great

1036
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: then everyone has. To concede i've been right. All Along

1037
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: If mac jones comes in and he's awesome or even,

1038
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: just fine then that's gotta be my final piece. Of,

1039
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: Evidence Also sam darnold fumbled what could have been a

1040
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown pass off his offensive lineman's ass just

1041
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: dropped back the ball like nobody. Hit him he was

1042
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: he just ran. His hand he. Was terrible they could.

1043
01:08:54,400 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 2: Have. Won Next Uh. Saints, CARDINALS yeah.

1044
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: I did watch SOME because i Had the cardinals. AND

1045
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: survivor i wouldn't feel GREAT if i Were. THE cardinals

1046
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: i would feel really Bad if I'm. The saints flat.

1047
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: All right and by, the Way quick nick's Tennis corner

1048
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: carlos alcaz told, you. Guys listen i'm not saying He

1049
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: and center aren't a good rivalry. This MOMENT what i

1050
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: am saying is he is a different tier and caliber.

1051
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: Of player alcarez could end his career in the top

1052
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: top top, tier Discussion, and center to me is just

1053
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: a tick. Beneath that That's all like rate, Subscribe review

1054
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: great job, To you demond's. A, Today also armando is

1055
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: asking what time does show Start? On friday at The Power.

1056
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: Light district show starts Two. Pm central there are no.

1057
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: Tickets necessary. It's funny the bosses and other people, are, like,

1058
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: so like what are we, gonna do, you know to

1059
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: get people down? The giveaways blah. Blah blah maybe this

1060
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: is my massive. EGO talking i think people are going

1061
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: to show up to see. The show and if You're In,

1062
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: kansas city just come. The again just, be there try

1063
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: to be there around, you know. By, one uh the

1064
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,040
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Speaker 1: everyone we are still going to Do the thursday pod.

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Speaker 1: This week we will actually record that Early on wednesday

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Speaker 1: because We're, flying thursday but regular pods schedule for you

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Speaker 1: guys and. Appreciate it great. Job demands thank You, to

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Speaker 1: volume thank you To, hard rock thank You, to boost

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Speaker 1: thank You To, blue duck thank You To. Seek GEEK

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Speaker 1: and i think that. Covers, everybody uh see you guys

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Speaker 1: On with colin in about ninety minutes or, about yeah

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Speaker 1: seventy five, minutes ish see you guys on, First things,

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Speaker 1: first three what's right