1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Hi, this is jas Omute. Welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: Phillies have not scored Jim for twenty consecutive innings. Phillies 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: open up a six game road trip on Friday, score 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: seven runs in the first inning, win ten to one, 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: and then score two or fewer runs and for their 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: last five games. Ruben Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury todd z 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: A lucky. It is the Philly Show. I hope everybody 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: is doing well. Ruben is flying back on the team 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: charter to Philadelphia. So it's me and Jim are going 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: to try to take it home today. Are you ready? 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: Jim A two for show. 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna give it my best. 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 2: You're gonna give it your best. So the Phillies obviously 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: they win. They win Monday, nice comeback win against the Giants, 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: first series opening win in San Francisco since twenty fourteen. 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: And you're sitting there going, this is it. This is 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: finally going to be the series where they finally going 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: to be the year that they win a series in 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: San Francisco. They haven't won one since twenty thirteen. Then 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: they get shut out six nothing on Tuesday, they get 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: shut out in the series finale on Wednesday, five nothing 22 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: and just a frustrating run. Right now, in these first 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: twelve games for the Phillies. 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Offense, yeah, I think the word is gross, even putrid. 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: The last two days getting shut out twice by a 26 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: team that was scuffling. You look at at Wednesday at 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Molly had him really off balance with that split. 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: It was swinging over it. It looked like they were 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: they were so conscious of that split that they did 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: nothing with anything else, even when he came over the plate. 31 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: But what I think there I wrote this down nine 32 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: and twenty nine in San Francisco. Yes, since twenty thirteen, 33 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: nine and twenty. 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: Nine, Yes, I mean, is that unbelievable? 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's And then so their last three loss, 36 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: they have a three and three trip. You know, you 37 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: go out west, you go three and three, Okay, But 38 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: so they lose Sunday they had four hits going into 39 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: the ninth inning in Colorado, four hits. They lose. The 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: last two days in San Francisco, they have four hits 41 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: in each game total. So I mean that ain't cutting it. 42 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: In the last two days in San Francisco, one extra 43 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: base hit, a double it's it's it's a real head scratcher. 44 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: We've seen this team for years go into funks and 45 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: they're they're in one early. They've had a couple of breakouts, 46 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, the first game and in Colorado there was 47 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: a game at home. But I wonder, you know, I 48 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: think about Rob Thompson and he's not He's an even 49 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: keel guy, and he doesn't make rash moves because you 50 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: never want to be perceived as panicking, especially early. I 51 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: just wonder if maybe there's a little lineup tweak that 52 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: would help them and also send a little message that 53 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, this ain't good enough for a team with 54 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: these type of expectations. I know it's all about October 55 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: around here, but you gotta play well get all season long. 56 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: They gotta get going. I wonder if if maybe there's 57 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: a flip with marsh and Stott. I wonder if maybe 58 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: there's a flip with Garcia and Bom. You know, those 59 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: are very small tweaks, but maybe it gets something going. 60 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they have an off day Thursday, think about it. 61 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll think about it, but in the end, 62 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I guess so. It surprised me because if they're twelve 63 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: games in, they're six and six. There is no reason 64 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: to panic. But this ain't good enough, Jim. It's funny. 65 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: I would make those same exact lineup changes there. I 66 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: think that if Rob would make the same make those 67 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: lineup changes. Those are the lineup changes I think that 68 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: he would make. 69 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: And he did suggest that he will make a tweak 70 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: or two, or certainly he will think long and hard 71 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: about a tweak or two. And that to me is 72 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: the move. Right now, you have you have a Doley 73 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: Scarcia move into the cleanup spot. He's been hitting the 74 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: ball pretty well. He's betten two point fifty. Alec Bohm, 75 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: who has been the cleanup hitters betting one eighty six 76 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: with a five point fifty ops. And then you move 77 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: Brandon marsh up into the five hole while Bryce and 78 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: Stott struggling to stop batting one sixty seven four h 79 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: five ops off to a real rough start there. And 80 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: so maybe you help guys relax a little bit, you know, Rob, Jim, 81 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: you know you've been in plenty of Rob Thompson postgame 82 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: sessions in the office, and he had a stat ready 83 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: that he mentioned to us as soon as we asked 84 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: about the offense about kind of what's stuck out about 85 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: these at bats. And today he said ten pull side 86 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: groundouts ten pays. I mean he he dropped that immediately, 87 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: And so what is that exactly? Is that? Well, that's guys, yeah, 88 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: jumping out, trying to do too much, trying to you 89 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: pull it. Obviously, you can get it in the air, 90 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: you can send it a really long way, and that's 91 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: something they could really use right now, but you also 92 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: can't force that to happen. And maybe that's kind of 93 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: what those guys are trying to do. Some of those 94 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: guys that are struggling. Maybe the team approach as a whole. 95 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: Uh So, maybe the off day helps, Maybe a little 96 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: lineup shuffle helps. Maybe dropping Boem down and stop down, 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: if that's what he wants to do, helps them relax 98 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: a little bit. Because man Bom had a great spring, 99 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: Scott had a great spring. Stott had a great second half. 100 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: You know, he was my bold prediction NL All Star team. Well, 101 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: you know it's early, it's early, but what I guess 102 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: what I'm saying is is that they they were going 103 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: so well and right now they're not. So maybe by 104 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: pushing them down, if that's what they want to do 105 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: that can get them going a little bit. I still 106 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: think those guys are gonna gonna hit. 107 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too early to pronounce. You know, their seasons 108 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: are going to be failure. 109 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: But oh wait wait, yeah, totally. 110 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: They just didn't hit anything hard today Wednesday, the finale 111 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, the Giants. A hard hit ball is 112 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: to find his ninety five miles an hour and above off. 113 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: The game, the Giants had thirteen of them. The Phillies 114 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: had three of them, and I don't think they had 115 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: any in the first seven innings. 116 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, you know it talking you know, talking to 117 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: Harper after the game, talking to JT after the game gym, 118 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: they said, basically, what you said, now is not the 119 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: time to panic. It is early. But asked, you know, 120 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: I asked Bryce, you know, looking around this clubhouse, what 121 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: gives you kind of the comfort maybe and knowing that 122 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: you're going to get things turned around? And you know, 123 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: he said, we just have to be. We just have 124 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: to be. We have to do it. I don't have 125 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: any other answer for you besides that we have to 126 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: do it. We've got to be that team because if 127 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: we're not there, we're not going to be where we 128 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: want to be at the end. JT said something similar. 129 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: You know, He's like, you know, we have a lot 130 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: of confidence in ourselves and we know we're going to 131 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: be where we want to be at the end of 132 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: the year. So no panic. They are very aware that 133 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: a lot of people are are in panic mode or 134 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: have serious concerns or are down on the team. They know, 135 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: they hear it, They hear the booze at Disne Bank Park. 136 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: They have people telling, you know, they're on social media, 137 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: and if they're not on social media, they have people 138 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: who are on social media tell them kind of what 139 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: the vibe is outside the outside the clubhouse. So they 140 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: know they got to get better. 141 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the last three losses, you know, Wednesday, Tuesday, Sunday 142 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: over five, over six, over six with runs in scoring position. 143 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, you know what you're alluding to. 144 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: There is enormous pressure on this team, and we see 145 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: the way they react to it in October and they 146 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: put it on themselves with their October failures. People want it, 147 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: and they want it bad. They want to see this 148 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: team win a championship, and you know, the frustration level 149 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: is pretty close to a barling point with their performances 150 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: the last three Octobers, and you know it's it's carried 151 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: over into into this season because people want it just 152 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: as bad. And the nucleus is the clock is ticking. 153 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: We know all of that, and they need to They 154 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: need to use this day off and come home and 155 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: relax and put a beating on someone is what they 156 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: need to do. And he need to hit with runners 157 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: and scorns. His bom had some. He left a bunch 158 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: of runners on Wednesday at a very poort bat late 159 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: in the game in the eighth inning. You know, it's 160 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: just Scott has not hit the ball hard. And he 161 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: looked so good in spring training, like you talked about. 162 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: I remember, I remember I even commented the last day 163 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: of camp as he he he lined a ball down 164 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: the left field line, just beautiful swing using the whole 165 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: field and his hands were so relaxed at the plate 166 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: in his setup. And he can get that back. I 167 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: think he can get that back. But you know, Thompson 168 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: said about a week ago, they're gonna put a hurting 169 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: on someone. Someone's gonna pay. Well, you need to make 170 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: someone pay more than every six games when you have 171 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: this type of this type of lineup track record payroll, 172 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: star power. There needs to be more consistency. 173 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: You know, the Phillies have scored forty two runs their 174 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: first twelve games. They haven't scored fewer through their first 175 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: twelve games since twenty sixteen, so that kind of helps 176 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: put you know, they scored thirty one. They scored thirty 177 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: one runs the twenty sixteen Phillies, which I mean, I 178 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: guess isn't that much of a surprise that team was 179 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: a ninety plus loss team. This team is not a 180 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: ninety plus loss team in my opinion, and it's a 181 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 2: team with World Series aspirations. So they got to get 182 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: out and they got they got to start putting, as 183 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: you said, Jim, put a pounding. But San Francisco, man, 184 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: they just cannot win here. It's absolutely crazy. They just 185 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: cannot win here. You mentioned nine and twenty nine. I 186 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: thought they were going to get it turned around. 187 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, especially you win the first one right right, 188 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: because I think the first game of a series is 189 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: such a tone center, and the first inning of a game, 190 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, can be a tone center, like it was 191 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: that that first game in Colorado. But it didn't turn 192 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: out to be that way. The offense just disappeared those 193 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: next two nights. Uh, I'm surprised. I actually thought they 194 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: would go in there after winning the first one and 195 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: win themselves a series. And it was. It was a 196 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: very winnable game on on on Wednesday because Aaron Nola 197 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: pitched well. Aaron Nola pitched really well, pitched out of 198 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: a couple difficult situations in the you know, first five innings, 199 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: and and then what was it, the sixth gives up 200 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: a bloop total bloop double that was almost caught. I 201 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't even call it a double, but a guy ended 202 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: up at the second base, then a walk, and then 203 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Dever Devers is sitting dead red out of fastball. Nola 204 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: struck him out with that pitch earlier in the game, 205 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: and he is just sitting dead red and he crushed 206 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: it to center field for a three run homer. And 207 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: that's the ball game, the way this team's hitting. 208 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: So, you know, interesting though, Tanner Banks was warmed up 209 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: and Rob tom to lefty on lefty. Now, Rob said 210 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: pointed out that Noah had had a good success against 211 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: Evers in his career, and so he says that I 212 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: thought that was Aaron. That was Aaron's guy, right, there 213 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: didn't work out, But you wonder, like man, you know, 214 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: should should have Robed brought in Tanner Banks in that spot. 215 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: In hindsight, it's always twenty twenty. But did that jump 216 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: out it? I don't know if that jumped out to 217 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: you at all in that moment. That's always because second 218 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: guest moments. 219 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, of course, you know, of course if Nola 220 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: gets him, you know, way to go, Rob Thompson, showing 221 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: faith in your guy. Way to go, guy. You you 222 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: got got their big stud you know, in a crucial situation. 223 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's pressure on Tanner Banks coming into 224 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: that situation with two men on. To me, Nola was 225 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: thrown well enough to stay in that game. Like I said, 226 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: he walked the guy before. But the blue pit was 227 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, that was a duck snort. But you know, 228 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: if he throws, he had a pretty good sinker on Wednesday. 229 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: He didn't throw a lot of sinkers in Colorado because 230 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: he said the altitude was causing the pitch to do 231 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,239 Speaker 1: funny stuff. But he had a pretty good sinker on Wednesday. 232 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: But he opens up Devor's with a fourth seamer. I 233 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: wonder if he tried to sink him if he has 234 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: better success there, maybe front hip or I try to 235 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: get it off the plate a little bit. It was 236 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: just it was just one of those pitches that you 237 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: see thigh high that Aaron Ola has a tough time 238 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: getting by people. He's really got to pitch and he's 239 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: got to get movement down on his own, and he 240 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: really pitched on Wednesday, made a lot of good pitches, 241 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: made a lot of good pitches in Denver. I'm actually 242 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: encouraged by what I've seen these last two outings. It 243 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: was just kind of that old bugaboo. The home run 244 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: ball really really hurts this guy when he doesn't locate well. 245 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: And you're right, Jim, you said it on our first 246 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: show this week that the most encouraging thing you saw 247 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: in Colorado was Aaron Nola's performance. And you're right the 248 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: way he pitches next too. If this is kind of 249 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: the guy who he's going to be, I think the 250 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: Phillies will be thrilled and they're going to be have 251 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: a chance to win a lot of ball games. And 252 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: we've got more coming up. We're going to talk about JT. 253 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: Real Mutill's foot, Zach Wheeler's rehab, Aidan Miller is finally 254 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: doing something baseball related. Jim and more will be right 255 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: back with over thirty five million downloads. What is the 256 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: number one rated ticketing out, Todd Father, It's. 257 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: Simple, man, see Geek as we know, man, they have 258 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: a lot of things that helps you out along the way. 259 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: They have green dots meaning good and red dots meaning bad, 260 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: and it's on a scale of one to ten showing you, Scott, 261 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: how good the seats are. 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Takes a file ball right off the foot, 281 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: right off the foot, finishes the inning and then does 282 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: not come back, and he has X rays X rays 283 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: or negative bruised right foot, and talking to JT after 284 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: the game on Wednesday, he says he's gonna he's going 285 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: to hope he can play on Friday. He did say 286 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: in the moment, I thought I might have broken my foot, 287 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: And he said when he got up and started hopping around, 288 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: he signaled to raphae Alenmershawn, He's like, get ready, So 289 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: he knew he was. I mean, and you know, we've 290 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: talked about this many times. That guy takes a friggin beating, man, 291 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: an absolute beating. He is like the toughest dude in 292 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: one of the toughest dudes in all of Major League Baseball. 293 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: And for him to take a shot like that finish 294 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: the inning, but also know, you know, it kind of 295 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: tells you how much pain he was in and how 296 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: bad the foot is hurting. So but he says he's 297 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: going to go back to Philly. Obviously, he's flying back 298 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: with the team on Wednesday, he's going to spend time 299 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: at the ballparker On Thursday, he says he's going to 300 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: get in the hyperbaric chamber to help help that healing 301 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: process and see kind of where the foot is. Maybe 302 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: be back in the lineup on Friday. So, all things considered, 303 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 2: they really catch a break because they're catching depth right 304 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: now is not great Renee Pinto and Tripple as so 305 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: it would be I mean, Garrett Stubbs would be the 306 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: guy up anyway, but this is a team that cannot 307 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: afford to lose many catchers, especially the guy that you 308 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: know that kind of doesn't kind of lead the way, 309 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: leads the way. He is the man. 310 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of things. I think they're fortunate as 311 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: an organization that Garrett Stubbs decided to stay. 312 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: Oh baby, Yes, paying. 313 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: Him a nice paying him a nice number just just 314 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: to play at Lehigh Valley, but very important depth at 315 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: an important position. And this guy is as tough as 316 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: raw hide. JT. Realmuto. He literally gets hit head to 317 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: toe you know his ankle. His foot now is like 318 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: a balloon. We've seen him get hit in the uh, 319 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: the fruit bowl a number of times. We've seen him 320 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: get hit in the noggin, which is scary. I remember 321 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago he got hit. Can I 322 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: hold my hand. He got hit at the base of 323 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: the hand right here. I think it might have been 324 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: blocking a hard slider from someone and it was on 325 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: his glove, his glove hand right where the gloves stopped, 326 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: and he took it off right off this hard bone 327 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: down here and it just swelled up. He couldn't catch 328 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: for a few years. The guy is is really tough, 329 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: and they got to protect him, and he's got to 330 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: protect himself. He you know they I know he wants 331 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: to play a lot. He's got to take that day 332 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: off now and then, and they and they got to 333 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: be able to use Mark Sean now and then because 334 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: they got to preserve JT for the long haul. He's 335 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: very important to that staff. But he does take a 336 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: beating year after year after year. And he is a 337 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: tough all Brey. 338 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 2: He is a tough dude man. So we'll see if 339 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: he's back on Friday. Zach Wheeler made his third rehab 340 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: start Jim on Wednesday night for Triple A Lehigh Valley. 341 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: The line was four and a third innings, gave up 342 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: a run, I don't know how many hits. He gave 343 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: up six strikeouts fastball Villa that the line really doesn't matter. 344 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: I mean the fastball Vila was ninety two point nine, 345 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: so a touch ninety four point three about the same, 346 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: about the same of where he's bet. We haven't seen 347 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: that jump yet, so just wanted to mention that he'll 348 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 2: make another rehab start. I'm not sure what day next week. 349 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: That'll be his fourth, and then I guess we'll see 350 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: what happens after that. But have not seen that jump 351 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: in velocity fastball veloss hees, So maybe this is just 352 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: kind of maybe it's going to be a very very 353 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 2: slow moving thing that they just have to kind of 354 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: deal with and work through. 355 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could see him pitch again in 356 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: the minor leagues, maybe next Tuesday, and if they deem 357 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: that he's ready after that, he could be back with 358 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: the big league club the week of the twentieth, maybe 359 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: in Wrigley Field or later in the week maybe in Atlanta. 360 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: If they think he needs another minor league start. It'll come, 361 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, during that week. I know the velocity is 362 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: not where everybody thought it would be, but it might 363 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: get back there when the adrenaline of the big leagues comes, 364 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: or maybe this is where it's going to be. I 365 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: still think he's good enough to pitch at that With that, 366 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, at that level, the important thing is health wise. 367 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Has been no red flags, so I think he's still 368 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: minus velocity, minus peak velocity. I still think he's on 369 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: a pretty good track. 370 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: Aiden Miller has finally started to resume baseball activities. Jim. 371 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: He is now swinging a bat, which is progress for him. 372 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: He had not been swinging a bat for a while, 373 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: but he just started swinging a bat again. I don't 374 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: know if that's dry swing, is that that's just hitting 375 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: off the practice tea or whatever. I talk with Dave 376 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: Dombrowski for a few minutes about it on Wednesday, and 377 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: he just said, I'll read you the quote I mean 378 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: regarding him swinging a bat. He said, it's just the 379 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: next step in his progress. It's step by step daily. 380 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: I can't tell you what he did today, for example, 381 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: but yes, he has started swinging the bat. He's making progress, 382 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: but we're guiding him through it. I said, any timetable 383 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 2: for his return? He said no, And I get that part. 384 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: You're not going to get a table on Aiden Miller. 385 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: He's got a recurring back injury. He's he's still hurt, 386 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: and you know they're not going to bring him back 387 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: until he's one hundred percent healthy, so that you're just 388 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: not going to put a timetable, at least give you 389 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: one publicly. And I. 390 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: Don't know if they're gonna be I don't know if 391 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: Dave wants to do any more timetables after July ish. 392 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 393 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: That's true. 394 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, you know, and it's like, so, there's 395 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: no reason to rush this guy back. He's your number 396 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: one prospect, he's the number twenty prospect in baseball, or 397 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: top twenty prospect in baseball, So take your time with him. 398 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: I totally get it, but I did. I did ask, 399 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: you know, have you learned anything about this injury as 400 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: you've gone through this. Dad's he kind of confident or 401 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: optimistic about long term health, And he didn't. He said 402 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: he didn't really want to get any into any of that. 403 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: I did also ask if he had had any sort 404 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: of injection therapy at any point during this process, and 405 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: he didn't decline to comment on that, citing HIPPA rules. 406 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: So you know, whatever, he's he's swinging a bat jim, 407 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: He's swinging a bat so. 408 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: And I guarantee you he's not like swinging it at 409 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, Max Effort. He's not out there participating in 410 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: your live BP sessions. Know this is this is crawl, 411 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: walk run, and he's probably in the crawl stage, maybe 412 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: taking a little soft toss, maybe a little tea work, 413 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: maybe a little dry swing, nice and easy. But there's 414 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: gonna be half to He's gonna have to crawl for 415 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: a while here because he didn't have a spring training. 416 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know what he had for a winter 417 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: because he had had this problem in the fall. 418 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so. 419 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: Just get healthy and start the start the journey back 420 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: to full game speed. I don't know how long it's 421 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: going to take, but you got to take care of 422 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: this kid. You got to figure out what's going on 423 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: and you got to knock it out of there. You 424 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: got to cure it. Because he's a young kid. It 425 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: was a great prospect and you need him on the field. 426 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: The one thing he said confidently. Was I said, you 427 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: do expect him to play though this year, right, and 428 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: he said, oh yeah, for sure, for sure, Oh yes, yes, 429 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: they so they expect him to play at some point 430 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: this season. Again, no timetable, but there you go. That's 431 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: that's Aiden Miller aid little Aid Miller update, because everybody's 432 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: been asking, you know about that for quite some time, 433 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: and understandably so. And Jim, I also want to I 434 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: do want to talk about the great first base coach. 435 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: Davey Lopes passed away at age eighty. He was the 436 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: Phillies first base coach from two thousand and seven to 437 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: twenty ten. And what a legend you've been. On social 438 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: media today, a lot of players talking about him. I 439 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: went back and I looked at a story I wrote 440 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: about him, Jim, and I wrote about him, Jim, and 441 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven is his first spring with 442 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: the with the Phillies. And everybody know Davey was a 443 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: base stealing guy. He's one of those gruff Rhode Islanders. Jim. Yes, 444 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about, Jim. 445 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: He's a He's a Rhode Islander through and through. And 446 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm a Rhode Islander and I was always very proud 447 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: of him. He he was one of my all time 448 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: favorite players as a kid. You know, I loved Carlo Streepsky, 449 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: I loved Bobby Orr and Davey Lopes was right there. 450 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: He went to the excuse me, pardon me. I've been 451 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: thinking about him all day. He went to the same 452 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: high school as my dad. They were about five years apart. 453 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: He went to the same high school as my dad 454 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: in Providence. They were about five for six years apart. 455 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: And you know, when he'd come on TV, I was 456 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, that guy he went. He 457 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: went to the high school is called LaSalle Academy. He 458 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: went to LaSalle. He went, you know, right down the street, 459 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: and he was like, I loved Davy Lops And it's 460 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: so funny. Just yesterday into my timeline, there's a great 461 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: clip from one of the World Series when Tommy Lasorda 462 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: wore or a microphone and you let us see it, 463 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: and the picture for the Dodgers is a guy named 464 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Doug raw Rau is a lefty and he's getting knocked 465 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: around in the first inning and Tommy goes out there 466 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: to take him out and he's miked, and the picture 467 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: starts giving Tommy some lip, like I don't want to 468 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: come out of this game. It's great stuff, and they're 469 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: going at it. They're going at it on the mound, 470 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: and Davey comes in and says, hey, one of you guys, 471 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: knock it off. Take it in the office. This is 472 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: the World Series. Everybody's looking at us. It's great stuff. 473 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: But he was like one of my favorites. And it's 474 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: so funny. Today is the day in nineteen seventy four, 475 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: fifty two years ago, I think, whatever when Hank Aaron 476 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: broke the record, broke bab Ruth's record in Atlanta, And 477 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: if you watched it all day long, they've been showing 478 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: the highlights of Hank Aaron and the first guy to 479 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: shake his hand is the Dodgers' second basement Davy Lows. 480 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: It's like straight, you know, weird and he uh, you 481 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: know to see that, and then you know, to get 482 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: to know him professionally, and like you said, really gruff, 483 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: but a heart of gold and a great teacher of 484 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: base running. Utly Victorino Rollins. They all benefited from Davey 485 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: Lopes and you know this is a guy that was 486 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: he was not a natural. He was actually in high school. 487 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: A better basketball player than he was a baseball player. 488 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: He was a. 489 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: Lightning quick point guard. And I know guys people who 490 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: played against him, and he was a lightning quick point guard. 491 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: But he was also a very good baseball player. And 492 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: this was he was a center fielder who could go 493 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: get everything. He goes through the Dodgers system as a 494 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: center fielder. He plays in Triple A as a center 495 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: fielder for Tommy Lesa, and Tommy's the guy who converted 496 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: him to second base, and Leighton Triple A years converted 497 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: him to second base. And then he didn't make the 498 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: big leagues. Who's like twenty eight years old, and he 499 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: ends up playing like eight and a half years with Garvey, 500 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: Bill Russell and Ron say in that great Dodgers infield. 501 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: So and then he. 502 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: Sticks around forever. He steals forty some odd bases as 503 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: a forty year old. 504 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: I remember that. Yeah, he was. 505 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: And he he mentored Ricky Henderson and he used to 506 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: tell me all the time that, you know, Ricky being 507 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: such a hot dog, used to drive him crazy. And 508 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: you can see that because Davey was straightened arrow, but 509 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: I'd have to straighten him out all the time. 510 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: That is great. So I remember, so I remember writing 511 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: a story about him in April two thousand and seven. 512 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: I had, so I looked up the story in the 513 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: Inquiry because like I remember doing a base running story 514 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: based dealing story Jim for our special section back in 515 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: the Inquiry. You remember the special section stories. Oh my god, 516 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: I see if I can pull up this quote. I 517 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: love this little anecdote, not just because I wrote it, 518 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: but I just thought it was a great little anecdote. 519 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if people can see this. This is 520 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: my David, David. This is a quote from David. David 521 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: lops is telling the story about Jimmy Rollins Is. This 522 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: is in spring training and Davey Lopes is basically riding 523 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: Jimmy rollins u during a spring training game because he 524 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: did not steal a base in spring training, saying. 525 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: Did you see that? 526 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: Did you see that? When the when he gives you that, 527 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: you gotta go, you gotta run? And that was I've 528 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: seen a lot of stories to day Jim on the 529 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: internet on social media from players basically sharing the same 530 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: story about how if you were on first base and 531 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: the picture was slow to the plate and you could 532 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: run and you did not run. Davey Lopes was not 533 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: a happy man as the as the first base coach, 534 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: whether whatever team he was coaching, he wanted you to run. 535 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: He loved base stealing. He said, of course you have 536 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: to be fast, you have to be quick, but you 537 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: also have to have a mindset to want to do it, 538 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: and you also have to be smart. You have to 539 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: really pay attention to the picture's first move to the plate, 540 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: and man Davy Lopes was a genius at that stuff. 541 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: He was like a sa Fond in terms of picking 542 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: up the pictures. Tell you know, the first move. I 543 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: maybe something that he does, he does he look over 544 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: twice and then throw, you know, all those types of 545 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: things I thought was great. So you know, David, David 546 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: was a great guy though he was he was he 547 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: was a personality, you know. 548 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: He he was tough. 549 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: He was tough man he could. 550 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: And then and then the whole he took no sugar, 551 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: honey iced tea, took none of it from nobody. And 552 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: then there was a whole Black Friday thing with Boa. Yeah, 553 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: and Boa would rip him saying you were out, And 554 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: David didn't want to hear it. He did not want 555 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: to hear it. Even fifty years. 556 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: Later, like get out of you know, I was saying 557 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: right right, he. 558 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: He was a real competitor man, and him and Bow 559 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: would get together and Davy was they were both scrappy. 560 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: Oh god, Davy was much quieter. 561 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was much quieter. But to give you another 562 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: little anecdote, Jim, you remember this one, well, just to 563 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: kind of go into Davy's personality, just kind of like 564 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to do it. 565 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: Phillies win the two thousand and eight World Series. Jim, 566 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: you were there, you remember they have a parade. A 567 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: couple of days later. Now all the Phillies are meeting 568 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: at the ballpark at Citizens Bank Park, and now they're 569 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: getting all the cars ready to go to drive to 570 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: Center City to get on the floats to go down 571 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: Broad Street back to Citizens Bank Park. So they're getting 572 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: everybody on the truck in the cars to go to 573 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: Center City, and everybody starts looking around, like anybody seeing Davy. 574 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: Where's Davy. Davy's not there, Davey's not there. So the 575 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: former Phillies PR guy, Greg Castriato, calls Davy's cell phone, Davy, 576 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: where are you? Davey says, I'm at the airport, Greg goes, 577 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: so we shouldn't wait for you. Probably not. Davy just 578 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: wanted to go home. He's like, I don't want to 579 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: go to the parade. I just want to leave put 580 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: a long air. I want to go home. 581 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: So we laught. 582 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 4: He didn't stay for the parade. I think that's such 583 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 4: a great story. I just got to kick out of 584 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: that one, just because that just kind of to me, 585 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: that sums up Davy in a lot of different ways. 586 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 4: You know, he did his job, they won, he was 587 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 4: happy they won. 588 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: But I don't need to go to parade. 589 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't afraid guy. 590 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: He wasn't a parade guy, Jim. 591 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no fan fair for Davy, no fan for Like 592 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: I said, I've been thinking about him all day, and 593 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: you and I both I know you feel this way. 594 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: Like we've met so many people in this game that 595 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: are blessing and Yah, knowing that guy absolute blasting takes 596 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: me right back to my youth, like when I was 597 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: ten years old. 598 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is awesome, That is awesome. So Davy Lopes 599 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: will be messed. Great guy, great, great, tremendous influence on 600 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: the Phillies and all those all those base seilers that 601 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: they had for for for years. You know, they're just 602 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: you know, they learned a lot from Davy and all 603 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: those guys have. 604 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: He could blow, He could blow bubbles. Man, he was 605 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: great with the bubble gumb good. 606 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: I don't remember this. 607 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: Oh he could blow bubbles in the infield. And you 608 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: know he had that thick mustache and get it caught 609 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: in his mustache. And oh yeah, I love love good. 610 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: You know bubble gumb That's awesome. That is awesome. Well, 611 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: Ruben will be back later this week. We'll be back 612 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: later this week. You know what we should do, Jim, 613 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 2: if you're if you're hung with us until the end, 614 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: send us some questions. If you're on us on YouTube, 615 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: drop a Phillies question in the comments under this episode. 616 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: We'll send out us a couple of notes on social 617 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 2: media asking for questions, but we'll answer some questions. We 618 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: haven't done one of those in a while. 619 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: You got the Masters, We got the Masters. 620 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 2: Uh, Scottie Scheffler. 621 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: Well, we're really going on the limb there, Jim. 622 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: I haven't watched much golf lately, so I'm going to 623 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: stick with the obvious. 624 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: You got. I'm going with that wiry lefty Okha Battilla. 625 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: I think he's ready. You think he's ready, Yeah, I 626 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: think he's I think he's he's ready. 627 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: I do love watching the Masters. That's that's kind of 628 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: a bucket list thing from me. I would love to 629 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: be able to go watch one round there, even if 630 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: it's a practice round. 631 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a tradition like no other. 632 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get to go together, Jim one day, you 633 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: and me. 634 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: That would be fun. That would be a great time. 635 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: You could drive, like the time we drove from Tampa. 636 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, throw a couple hogies in the car, head down 637 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: to Augusta. Let's do it. Get a pimento. 638 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: We drove. I think we made record time. We left 639 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: Tampa Airport at five point fifteen am and we were 640 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: pulling into my driveway in Westchester at eight forty at night. 641 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: We did. We absolutely flew. Very few pit stops along 642 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: the way. We don't mess up. We loaded up the car, 643 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: we went. We made a great time. We can do it. 644 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: Get that pimento cheese sandwich at Augusta. If anybody's got 645 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: if anybody's got tickets, let us know. All right, Philly Show. Yeah, 646 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: we'll be back. 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