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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Give Them Lalla Podcast. It's

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Speaker 1: like an emotional day for me. I can't believe my

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Speaker 1: baby is one happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, this will come out the day after.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we're recording today. How are you March fifteen?

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Speaker 2: Because I yeah, March fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I walked in here this morning and Lala is like,

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Speaker 3: I'm so emotional right now, and I said, why why

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Speaker 3: don't you tell us?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 1: Because my my baby. It's been a year Like yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I was sitting there thinking, Okay, this is like when

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Speaker 1: I was in labor. This is literally the exact time

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Speaker 1: that I like got my IV this is what time

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Speaker 1: this happened. And then a year ago today at six

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Speaker 1: forty five am, I pushed out my little water baby.

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Speaker 2: I just got gooseby. I know, six forty five am.

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Speaker 2: So you had her, she was here, she's here baby.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh my god.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's insane how much life can change

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Speaker 3: within a year.

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Speaker 1: I know, wild It's been the best year of my life.

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Speaker 2: Really, Okay, love that for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like just having this beautiful baby, Who's the best

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Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened to me. Like, even though it's

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Speaker 1: been a year full of change, Like, yeah, that I

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Speaker 1: wasn't expecting. I don't think God makes mistakes. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the universe makes mistakes. I truly believe that. And

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Speaker 1: even though when we're placed in situations and it may

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Speaker 1: not make sense in the moment, there will be a

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Speaker 1: time that it does. And just as the days pass,

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Speaker 1: I realize, like my higher power has my back, and

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Speaker 1: more importantly, it has oceans back, you know. And she's

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Speaker 1: just like such an incredible baby, and I look at

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Speaker 1: her and know she's just gonna do like really incredible

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Speaker 1: things in this world. I just know it.

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Speaker 2: She was meant to be here.

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Speaker 1: She was. Yeah, she's just like and you know her

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Speaker 1: jass Like I know she's only one, but she's like

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Speaker 1: so curious and independent and like just such a bright spirit.

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Speaker 2: And so content.

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Speaker 3: Anytimes she's here, you're with her, Gigi's around, she'll just

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Speaker 3: sit watch people talking, just look around, curious about different things.

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Speaker 3: She's so good and sweet and like you look at

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Speaker 3: ocean and it's like that is goodness. That's like good,

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Speaker 3: that's like pure innocence and good and it's so and

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Speaker 3: I know that's in a lot of babies, of course,

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Speaker 3: but you know, people get older, and there's so much

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Speaker 3: shit that happens in this world and so many you know,

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Speaker 3: there's great things but also bad things. But then you

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Speaker 3: look at like these little innocent babies and a baby

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Speaker 3: like Ocean, and you're like, oh, there's like goodness, pure goodness.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's really beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Like all of these little ones just like embody everything

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Speaker 3: And you brought her like as a woman who's thirty,

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Speaker 3: I'm close to your age, Like I couldn't even imagine

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Speaker 3: bringing something into this world and being like, yes, look

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Speaker 3: I did this. How do you like? That's incredible, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever just like stare at her and think that,

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Speaker 3: Oh I.

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Speaker 1: Stare at her daily. I cannot stop staring at her. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and yes, I think, like, shit, I like made you.

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Speaker 1: And I'm one of those people that I've always been

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Speaker 1: this type of person where I'm like, all right, like

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Speaker 1: the dude like shot some sperm, good for you. Here's

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Speaker 1: your fucking gold star, like you know, like the mom

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Speaker 1: carried the baby, yeah for nine fucking months. Yeah, okay, hmm.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's miraculous that even that word sounds like

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Speaker 3: so it doesn't do it justice. But like you felt, yes,

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Speaker 3: a human growing inside of you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: It blows my mind, But the older I get, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: wait what.

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Speaker 1: You know what? I know? A doctor can sit here

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Speaker 1: and be like, well, this is how it happens. Why.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bullshit, bullshit, it's a miracle.

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Speaker 4: Period.

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Speaker 1: You can give me your little scientific fact X Y

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Speaker 1: M plus two equals berth and I'm like, no incorrect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, and then you give birth to this human

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Speaker 3: and then it feeds for some people from your body

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Speaker 3: or you just feed it like as you're holding this.

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Speaker 2: It's wild.

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Speaker 1: It relies on you.

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Speaker 2: It relies on you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, mothers are incredible, even if mothers don't carry their

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Speaker 1: own babies. Right. Yeah, there is something that happens to

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Speaker 1: a woman when she knows her baby is coming, no

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Speaker 1: matter how they get here.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: You can't fuck with them. I will tell you what. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Her birthday party was over the weekend Ocean's birthday party.

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about it? Oh my god?

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Speaker 3: I was like Kyle, my boyfriend was like, wait, can

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Speaker 3: I have a can I turn one again?

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Speaker 2: Because like I need something like this.

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Speaker 1: It was it was fantastic. So I hired this company

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Speaker 1: called Picnic and Pedal and Glitz and Gather. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: I had heard amazing things. I told them what I wanted. Dude,

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Speaker 1: was it not insane? Ocean had a merch stage at

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Speaker 2: It was incredible.

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Speaker 3: And in case you I think they've posted photos their tags,

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Speaker 3: like their Instagram handle for Picnic and Pedal just at

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Speaker 3: Picnic Underscore and Underscore Pedal p E t A L

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Speaker 3: and then Glitz and gathers at.

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Speaker 2: G l I t z A n d g A t.

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Speaker 4: H e R.

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Speaker 3: But it was like my breath was taken away. Lala cried,

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Speaker 3: her mom cried, Oh I saw.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. Ocean's face was plastered everywhere. Ye

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Speaker 1: give them Ocean on merch. All of the kids had

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Speaker 1: so much fun.

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Speaker 1: The parents had fun, they really did. And I'm so

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Speaker 1: grateful for Jackson Brittany Yes letting me use their house

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Speaker 1: to throw Ocean her first birthday. They were so gracious

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Speaker 1: And it just goes to show like this group of

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Speaker 1: got a picture of all the babies, and you can

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Speaker 1: tell whose baby is who, just if you didn't even know.

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Speaker 1: You've got Summer Moon, who's like in the back because

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Speaker 1: she wouldn't sit still, just like Shena. Like I text

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Speaker 1: her yesterday, I was like, hey, do you want to

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Speaker 1: go to Universal for Ocean's birthday tomorrow? And she's like,

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Speaker 1: we're already back in San Diego. I'm like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 2: Just bopping everywhere, never.

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Speaker 1: like my little Kentucky muffin vibing. Ocean is zoned down

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Speaker 1: on whatever, Like she sees a shiny object and she's like,

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Speaker 1: And then Hartford melting the fuck down because we told

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Speaker 3: I saw that photo and then I saw People Magazine

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is the grit. I would get

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Speaker 1: It needs to be framed, and Stossy. I kept telling

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Speaker 1: Stossy it's fine that she's crying, because we're going to

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Speaker 1: look back on this. In every photo that I have

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Speaker 1: with my two best friends that we were all born

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Speaker 1: and every birthday they send me the photos.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I love that.

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Speaker 3: And you know what's amazing my mom and dad, who

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Speaker 3: but your child, no matter what, has the essence and

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Speaker 2: So you guys are going to be able to look

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Speaker 3: Photo and be like, like in years, years years down

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Speaker 3: be like, wow, they have the same personalities. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I know. I knew Ocean was a geniue.

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Speaker 1: I knew she was going to be a genius.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like pondering ways to save the world.

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Speaker 1: Well, and even when she's in her little jumper, like

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Speaker 1: she'll jump up and down and then she'll look up like,

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Speaker 2: Is she like future engineer?

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Speaker 1: She's a fucking genius. Rocket scientist, and she'll touch the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is no, No, she is and you and she's.

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Speaker 1: So in my mind she's thinking that.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a sign of intelligence when kids, so I've

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Speaker 3: heard I'm not a doctor, but when kids play by

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Speaker 3: And she's like lives life that way. Like you could

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Speaker 1: She like she likes when I get in the playpen

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Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, obviously because it's fun. But for the

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Speaker 2: Excuse an mom, this is my space.

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Speaker 1: This is for children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the vibe. Ocean is one We're going

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Speaker 1: to universal today with Jackson Brittain.

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Speaker 3: Cruise so fun and really quick to take it back

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Speaker 3: to Jackson britt being awesome hosting it at their beautiful

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Speaker 3: is that Ocean has the best first birthday ever. That's

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, Like, what an amazing woman she was.

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Speaker 3: So she cared so much that Ocean and and had

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Speaker 1: She was so cute because she was like, I made

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Speaker 1: sure that when you walked through the front door, you

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Speaker 1: were going to be surprised. And I was like, do

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Speaker 1: not allow her in the backyard until I'm down here,

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Speaker 1: because I know she's gonna cry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I did cry, Gig did, and Gig cried, and

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Speaker 3: you had friends from home visiting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were a sobby mess.

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Speaker 4: And my.

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Speaker 1: Best friend Canvas, we've been friends for over twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: When I was in kindergarten, I saw her and I

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Speaker 1: And so my mom rolled up on her mom, Kristen,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, It's beautiful, Ocean's lucky. And for any of

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Speaker 1: I'm your mother. La to the Rescue. I'm excited for

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Speaker 4: in my mind it was never like I'm going to

438
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 4: make these videos and people are going to see it.

439
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: I was like, let me do something creative because I'm

440
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 4: losing my mind. How bored I am. I taught myself

441
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 4: how to edit. I filmed myself. I remember my sister

442
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 4: and my mom like coming home and being like, what

443
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: are you doing, like filming myself, and I just didn't

444
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 4: want to tell anyone. I'm someone that tells everyone everything

445
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 4: I'm up to, and like I just like need everyone's opinion.

446
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 4: And this was the first time in my life I

447
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 4: just kind of like was like, let me just do

448
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 4: this for myself and like and then it was like

449
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 4: the fifth video I made that like blew the hell up,

450
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: and then my life changed, Like I don't know, I

451
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 4: don't even know.

452
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: What was the fifth Like what was the one video

453
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: that just blew up?

454
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 4: The first four videos I did were like celebrity look

455
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 4: alike in a SI sixteen body, Haley Beaver, Kloy Kardashian,

456
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 4: whoever it was, and then I did it their outfit

457
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 4: in my body. But that was something that was repeated

458
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 4: on titchtok and I got from other people, so no

459
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 4: one cared. But then it was really when I kind

460
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,959
Speaker 4: of gave up on it and I was like, all right,

461
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 4: this is a lot of work to do yourself, and

462
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 4: like no one's even seeing it, so whatever It was

463
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 4: really the one that I came home and made for

464
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 4: my friends as like a joke because I got this

465
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 4: like huge package from Nasty Gal. I looked insanee, my

466
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 4: boobs were flying out, like it was just like everything

467
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 4: looked on me. So I was just like laughing at

468
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: myself and like sending my friends videos. I was like,

469
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 4: I'll just make a video of it. And I literally said, like,

470
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: how can we order these things online? And no matter

471
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 4: what size you are, don't never look like the model,

472
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: and like we get mad at ourselves for it, when really,

473
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 4: why are we blaming ourselves. It's these fashion brands that

474
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 4: just don't get it right and that video that blew up.

475
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: It's so insane to me. And this is I tend

476
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: to like take a step back and look at what

477
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: people have built. You managed to take your amazing personality

478
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: and just like lust for life and also partner with

479
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: these brands because you're showing real life. And by the way,

480
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: I hate the word plus size model because most of

481
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: these bitches are so small. It's like, so is that

482
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: a negative size model because she's half a person, So

483
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense to me.

484
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: I mean, the names in general are all like, it's

485
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 4: just obviously that's some There's so much I want to

486
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 4: change so much that I think that it will.

487
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: Be but you're doing it.

488
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 4: I'm doing, and I think that's what I Yes, I've

489
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 4: recently given myself more credit because I'm finally now going

490
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 4: into twenty twenty two after building a platform, seeing the

491
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 4: changes start to happen slowly, and now at least I'm

492
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 4: seeing that I never was someone that was just like, wow,

493
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: I have a following, like let me just keep building numbers.

494
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 4: If I'm not doing something with it, then what's the

495
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 4: point right now that I'm actually seeing stuff happen. Yes, No,

496
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 4: I'm definitely proud of myself and it's great, But I

497
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: don't think that the people some of the people that

498
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 4: follow me, and I have people all shapes and sizes

499
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 4: that follow me. I just don't think that people realize

500
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: like it does take time and like I can't just

501
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: snap a finger, and like I'm I want it to

502
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: happen just as much as everyone else. But you know,

503
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: I just announced that I'm working with Victorious Secret Pink

504
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 4: to be their size consultant and brand ambassador to help

505
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 4: them to expand sizes. Of course, I've been getting so

506
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 4: much positive feedback, but also so much negative from people

507
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 4: that are just like an XXL, that's all you can do,

508
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 4: like you're doing nothing like and again those are I know,

509
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 4: I guess shouldn't look at the negative, and it's not

510
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 4: that many people, but realistically, it's like I want to

511
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: prove everyone wrong and I always have wanted to be like,

512
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 4: liked and understood. So it's very hard for me now

513
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 4: being this sensitive person on social media wanting everyone to

514
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 4: like see I'm trying to do good, but then getting

515
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 4: those haters is very hard for me. Like, it's just

516
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: hard for me, except.

517
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Of course you're You're still a human being, and no

518
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: matter how much good you do, there's always going to

519
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: be people who it's not good enough. I think that's

520
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: a tough pill for most of us to swallow. So

521
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: when you got that package from Nasty Gal, I remember

522
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: seeing this. Now I know whatch when you're talking about

523
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: because Katie showed it to me. Is that when you

524
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: decided to kind of shift the way your TikTok was

525
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: going to be, and you were like, not only am

526
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: I going to bring my big personality, but I'm going

527
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: to show these clothes and what they look like on

528
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: my body, because you've really you've really been able to

529
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: grab everything and put it into one TikTok. You know.

530
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's weird because I didn't have the

531
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: thoughts then around it, Like I happen to have a

532
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: pretty little I never shopped like I mean, I always

533
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: like loved clothes, and but I did it in a

534
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 4: way that was like once every two months, I would

535
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 4: order like a million things online and just get it

536
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 4: because it was such a stressful thing for me growing up.

537
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: Like I literally if I shopped in person with my

538
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 4: mom or something, I would just cry the whole time

539
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: because it was frustrating. And then when I order things

540
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 4: online it works or it doesn't work, but I usually

541
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 4: would laugh at myself. So I had a pretty little

542
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: thing package the next day because I did one of

543
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: my big I'm going to order everything online. So I

544
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 4: just made that video again but a little more like

545
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 4: in depth, and tried making that one. People liked the

546
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: humor on it. People liked that it wasn't so serious

547
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 4: of like let's accept ourselves. And I'm not saying that's

548
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: a bad thing, but like for me, that's not me,

549
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 4: so for me, I always maybe I have been that

550
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: kind of way my whole life, like making fun of

551
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: myself in a way when in things like that if

552
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 4: clothes don't fit me, but yes, also like being honest

553
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 4: that like it upsets me at the same time. So

554
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 4: I just like did it again. And then I don't know.

555
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 4: I wish I knew what the moment was where I

556
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: was like back again with a realistic call and decided

557
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 4: this is going to be like a series and take

558
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 4: over my life. But I don't remember. It just kind

559
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 4: of it just kind of happened itself, and I yes,

560
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: I took a little bit of like my frustration for

561
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: the fashion industry, the humor I've always had, and then

562
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 4: me just always loving to connect with people who have

563
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: feeled the same way. And when I started seeing that

564
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: all these people just feel the same way and like

565
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: we're like connecting to what I was saying, I was like, WHOA,

566
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: this is crazy. I'm just going to keep talking about it.

567
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said at the beginning, it's fucking genius.

568
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: The brands that you've partnered with, I mean Stuart Weitzman, Lululemon,

569
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: sax Off Fit, like all of these brands that people

570
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: like me would die die to have them partner with me,

571
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: and you're just a fucking genius. Like I watch your

572
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: videos and you're making a difference in doing all of

573
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: those things, and I get it, Like I don't care

574
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: who you are, and I don't care how many people

575
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: sit there and tell you look great, Like if you

576
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: don't feel great, right, we all have those moments of like,

577
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm not come in this moment in my own skin.

578
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: You have those thoughts, I'm sure because you're a person

579
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: as well. In those moments, do you still create content?

580
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Are those the moments where you say, you know what,

581
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: fuck this, we're getting off our ass and we're making

582
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: content to talk about it.

583
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: When I'm actually most vulnerable is when I create the

584
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: content too, because I'm like, I just want to talk

585
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: to someone about it. Why don't I just share it

586
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: to my over two point five million followers and just

587
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: talk about it there. So, like some people are just

588
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: like social media isn't your therapists and blah blah blah,

589
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: Like well, in a way kind of kind of because like, honestly,

590
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: I've become more confident in the past year because of

591
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: the positive things that people have said to me, I

592
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: don't let those heat comments bring me down as a person. Yes,

593
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: maybe in the moment they upset me when people are

594
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: like you're fat, You're fat businessness, Like, I already know

595
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 4: the things i need to work on. I already know

596
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: what I'm doing, so like maybe I'll be upset if

597
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: I'm having a bad day already. But sometimes they don't

598
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: even affect me. It's the positive things that my followers

599
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 4: and people that have gotten to know me say that

600
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: I like start believing about myself that I maybe always

601
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: hated about myself or never like like hated my teeth,

602
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: and then everyone just always comments how I have the

603
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: greatest teeth, and now I like my teeth. Like it's

604
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: kind of like we all don't like things about ourself,

605
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: but I put myself out there in front of everyone,

606
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 4: so I'm starting to see different things. But going back

607
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: to what you said, yes, when I'm the most vulnerable,

608
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: I do speak about it, and I get positive and

609
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 4: negative feedback. Because going back to that video you said

610
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: where that girl was like you don't represent this plus

611
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: sized community, and I felt like I had to respond,

612
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: like I was like, wait, I'm not trying to represent

613
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 4: any community. I got a following from just being myself

614
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: and now it turned into something. So I'm not just

615
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: going to change what I'm doing and start being like

616
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: this leader or like influential person that knows everything that's

617
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: like right to do and have all these people follow.

618
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 4: Like I'm still just like a mess of a person

619
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: trying to figure it out. But I do think I

620
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: have a lot of like honesty and things I just

621
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: want to share and people seem to like it. So

622
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: I'm not just gonna start I don't care if people think, like,

623
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 4: you don't represent the plus size community, You're not big enough,

624
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: you're this, you're that. It's like, what do you want

625
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: me to do? Like I literally don't know what I'm

626
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: supposed to do other than just like keep doing what

627
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: I'm doing. But now that it's getting bigger, it's like

628
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: people are putting me in like a place like they

629
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 4: want me to be. Like, you know, when it's set

630
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: on the Victoria's Secret thing remy to help plus size influencer,

631
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: that pisses off some people that are considered in this

632
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: plus size community and they're like, well, if she considers

633
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: herself plus size, it's not true. In an XXL is

634
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: and plus size. It's very hard. I don't care to

635
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 4: put myself in a category, but everyone else is trying to, right.

636
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: That's inevitable when you start putting yourself out there, people

637
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: try to put you in a box and you obviously

638
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: can't be put in a box. But the struggle is real.

639
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean I can relate to being put in a

640
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: box and you try your hard is to break out

641
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: of it. Now, when you say, like people are upset

642
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: about the XXL, I'm gonna be honest, like I don't

643
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: even know what size that would mean, Like when they say,

644
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: like an extra small, what size? I need a number?

645
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: So when you're creating these sizes and you're helping brands,

646
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: do you go off of just the XXL or you

647
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: know an actual number for what that means?

648
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: Company and brand is different, so some brands to excel,

649
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: some brands do numbers. The problem is and why it's

650
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: like but people don't realize, like like I'm a sixteen, eighteen, fourteen, twenty,

651
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: Like I literally that now that I've gone through all

652
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: these brands and now starting to shop with Like now

653
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: designers are starting to send me clothes and things like that,

654
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 4: I'm like wow, like it's all across the board. So

655
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: that's why I try and do the work for people

656
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: where I'm trying it on and then you can see

657
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 4: for yourself, like is this going to work for me?

658
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: Is it not? Because it's so confusing, and I think

659
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: that it's not even most brands go like XL XXL.

660
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: It's like every brand is different, I would say, like

661
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: most the frustration for someone like me is that a

662
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: lot of these brands just stop at an excel that

663
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: is like I would say almost like at this point,

664
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: like a little bit smaller than me, and then like

665
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: how many people are left out? Like there are so

666
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: many people that then aren't allowed, that aren't able to

667
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: wear clothes at all. And for me, I felt like

668
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: I was always like I don't know the word trendy,

669
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: liked fashion, and then the only clothes that were there

670
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: for maybe some larger people are like frumpy and not cute,

671
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: and like why does that relate? Like why can't I

672
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: go get the same clothes that a skinnier person is

673
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: getting just because my body's bigger. And that's why I

674
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: think the first that I realized was Good American that

675
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: Chloe was like the first that really started plus size,

676
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 4: but like cool clothes that I noticed.

677
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: I watched that video you did of the black dress,

678
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: and you said that it was a size five. You

679
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: give like the turnaround to show how it looks, So

680
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: that's good to know that you feel that good. American

681
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: is like the first one to really make you feel

682
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: good where you don't have to walk into a store

683
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: and be like these are my options.

684
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's what people too are like

685
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: fascinated by, Like they see me that I've always been

686
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: like kind of dressed like a little like I like

687
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: to show skin and show my boobs and show like

688
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: my stomach a little, so like people are like, oh

689
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: my god, like I never knew I could dress like that,

690
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 4: And then they get so excited and I could sell

691
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: out the item in two seconds because they're like, holy shit,

692
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: if Remy's wearing this and she's a size six eighteen,

693
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: then I could wear this too. Like I think that's

694
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: where a lot of people get the excitement from following me.

695
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I can imagine, because you know, there's so

696
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: many people that are looking in so many aspects of

697
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: life for that confidence and that push where who said

698
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: that this person can show a little midriff, but this

699
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: person can't. Yeah, I think you're showing people the way

700
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: to do it. And here's the thing I always say,

701
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: if if you walk out the door and you feel

702
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: beautiful and hot, fuck what everyone else thinks. Yeah, So

703
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: you're giving people so much confidence. And I think that

704
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you're realizing that because it's something where

705
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: you're from New York. I'm from well, I'm originally from

706
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: Utah and I live in LA and it's just kind

707
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: of a different it's a different vibe out here. We're

708
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: not from this small town where everybody's very judgmental, but

709
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: those places still exist. They need someone like you to

710
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: be out here giving them confidence. I think it's amazing.

711
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 4: Yes, I am starting to see it more like I'm

712
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: starting to give myself a little bit more credit and

713
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: like seeing the what I'm doing. Like I mean, I

714
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: think the biggest part is when people come up to

715
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: me on the street, because that's you know, people come

716
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: up to me crying like once a week, these girls

717
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: that are like, You've changed my life, and I just

718
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: I didn't understand for so long. But I think it's

719
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 4: just yes, giving them this confidence. I think what's hard

720
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: for me to get it is that I still lack

721
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: a lot of body confidence. I would say I've always

722
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: been an overall confident person, like mentally and like I'm remubator,

723
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 4: this is what I'm doing. I'm not afraid to say anything.

724
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 4: But when it comes to my body for the first

725
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: time my life, I'm not confident in that at all.

726
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: So when people comment and then come up to me

727
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 4: and say, you've given me so much confidence, I don't.

728
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: I think it's maybe that I don't want to feel

729
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 4: inauthentic because I'm like, wait, I'm not that confident right now.

730
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 4: I actually am like really not happy with my body

731
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 4: right now. So it's like a you know, I think

732
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 4: it's hard because then you're labeled like this influencer. We're

733
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: like I said, I'm influencing these people. But I don't

734
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 4: want to like be the one to say that I

735
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: have all the answers or anything, because I really don't.

736
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: Like I'm just as lost as anyone else.

737
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: But I think that's why people gravitate towards you, Yeah,

738
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: because that's relatable and I can relate to that on

739
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: a lot of levels. Because I people will come up

740
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: to me or slide in the DM and talk about

741
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: how do I get your type of confidence? And I'm like, girl,

742
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: I am faking this shit until it just happens for me.

743
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: And maybe you do the same thing. I don't know,

744
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: but whatever you're doing, people see you and they want

745
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: what you have, and you're not just giving the curvy

746
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: girls and curvy you know, men, women and everything in

747
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: between that confidence. Like when I watch you, I feel liberated.

748
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: You know, you're hitting both ends of the spectrum and

749
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: everything in between, and you're very relatable. So I don't

750
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: feel like you're being inauthentic by coming across as a

751
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: confident person and then having your moments. I think that's

752
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: just called being a person exactly.

753
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: And I think that's just it's such a rare thing

754
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: to be a person on social media because everyone's so

755
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: used to needing to show this like perfect side to them,

756
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 4: and that's really that I think is something going back

757
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 4: to when I started my videos that I did think.

758
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 4: I was like, I want to show the bad and

759
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: not only the good. Everyone only shows the good on

760
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: social media and that fucks with me no, and it

761
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 4: messes with a lot of people. I'm not as much

762
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 4: of a picture person. I'm more of a video person.

763
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I like like taking my like modeling phos

764
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 4: and stuff. But like in New York City, how people

765
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 4: take like blogger photos on the street like I can.

766
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: That gives me so much anxiety. And I actually just

767
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: recently went on like a trip with like that was

768
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: really like an influencer influencer trip with just girls that

769
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: more do photos and not video, and it was like

770
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: really another world for me, like seeing just how perfect

771
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: everyone needs their feed to be and look and dress

772
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: and act, and I'm like that world isn't something that

773
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: I can see myself in or ever would want to be,

774
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: And so like like that's great for other people, but

775
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 4: like for me, I'm content with what I'm putting out

776
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: there and what I'm doing, and I'm very interested to

777
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: see where it will go. You know, Like every day

778
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: I'm just kind of like I don't have a plan.

779
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: Like when I did used to have a plan of

780
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: what I wanted my life to be, it went completely

781
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: a different way, and I'm happy about that. So I'm

782
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 4: literally just going with it. When I get an opportunity,

783
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 4: like the Victoria's Secret thing or something comes my way

784
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 4: and it sounds good to me. I'm like, great, let's

785
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: do it. So I'm just kind of like taking this

786
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: and seeing what happens. Like I just it's crazy. I

787
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: don't know.

788
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's only been, like you said, a little over

789
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: a year. I'm sure you're still processing everything. I mean,

790
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm in awe of what you've accomplished in such a

791
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: short period of time, Like you were just meant to

792
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: do this. Thank you, You're so welcome. First of all, again,

793
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: if anyone's living under a rock, where can people find you?

794
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: My Instagram and TikTok is just at my name at

795
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: remy baitor r e m Ibader. Potentially might start a YouTube,

796
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: but that takes a lot of efforts. So I'm just

797
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: pushing it off and pushing it off. But I think

798
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of very exciting things coming up,

799
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: more exciting announcements than things that are happening in the

800
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: next few months. And like I said, I feel like

801
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: it's finally like things are actually happening, and that's like

802
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: the most exciting for me.

803
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: So it's beyond exciting. And before I let you go,

804
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: I want to know, like what your parents think. You

805
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: said your dad was the one that was like pushing

806
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: you in a certain direction, like what does he think

807
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: about all this?

808
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 4: Oh my god, they're they're funny, Like it was interesting.

809
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: So my dad's like the business guy and who I

810
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 4: go to to talk about all that. He's like now

811
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: my business manager actually, but I almost like wasn't getting

812
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 4: anything from him at first, where I was like so

813
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 4: confused and my mom was like, no, rem you don't understand.

814
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 4: Like he brags about you on the phone to everyone,

815
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: but to your face he acts like he's just he's

816
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 4: just not as like much like that. He actually texted

817
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: me for the first time the other day, like two

818
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 4: days ago and was just like, not that he hasn't

819
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: been showing how proud he is, but like he just

820
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: he shows it in different ways. And he texted me

821
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: two days ago like I can't explain how proud I

822
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: am with you, Like you built this business, like you

823
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 4: did everything on your own, Like it's really amazing to

824
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: see where my mom cries every day, like she's just

825
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: the emotional she's obsessed with you, by the way, but

826
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: like she just like fries every day, Like it's like

827
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: I can't believe this. Like these girls like on the

828
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: street came up there and we're like, we love you,

829
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: and like when they're with me and see that, they

830
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 4: just like freak out every time. And like my mom

831
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: was like, I just don't get it, like why do

832
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: you think why? Like of course me, but she just

833
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: like will question every I'm like, are you going to

834
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 4: say that? Every single time? And she's like, I'll just

835
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: never understand. But in the best way possible. She's just

836
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 4: like she's it's just very surreal to her.

837
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure.

838
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: And then my sister gets like almost like I think

839
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: she's happy because she just gets the perks of going

840
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: on the Revolved trips and doing whatever with me, Like

841
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: we actually weren't weren't really as close before this time,

842
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: where now that we're doing these trips and exciting things together,

843
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: and she's always been into fashion and influencers and all

844
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 4: this stuff, like this is just great for her. So

845
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: like we're all super close and like kind of I

846
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 4: want them And anytime something happens, an article comes out,

847
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 4: I just put in my family group chat, like we're

848
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 4: all very like into everything happening, but it's something new

849
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 4: every day, Like it feels like it's just I'm wondering

850
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: when that feeling will be over, Like I'm like, oh

851
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: my god, it was just in Women's Word Daily like

852
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: that crazy, Like is that going to be like over

853
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 4: at some point? Or is there always things that are

854
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 4: still exciting?

855
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, you know, I wonder that. I

856
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: sometimes wonder that too, because I'm looking at everything you've

857
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: been featured in and I'm like, I'm sure she's pinching

858
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: herself daily, like is it ever going to get to

859
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: a point where it's like, oh yeah, cover a Vogue whatever,

860
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, just another day.

861
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: But even with you, like you, I'm sure at first,

862
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: like well you started getting a following, and you probably

863
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: were like what the hell is going on? But then

864
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: like you got you have new exciting things, like when

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Speaker 4: you wrote a book, you know, like a new excitement

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Speaker 4: outside of that what you were doing. I guess, like

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that there's always things to be excited about

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Speaker 4: having a baby.

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Speaker 1: I still pinch myself like how how did I get here?

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Speaker 1: Like I was just on a couch in Utah watching

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Beverly Hill, Like what am I doing?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I was put into a time capsule

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Speaker 1: or something.

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Speaker 4: That's the feeling that I just like, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I can't answer the question. When people are like, how

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Speaker 4: has it been, I'm like, I don't know. I literally

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Speaker 4: don't know because I was sitting there taking press clips

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Speaker 4: of you at the desk at Bravo, like you literally

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Speaker 4: in my little like assistance to like like obeying the rules.

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Speaker 4: So like I it was very like and now I'm

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Speaker 4: like doing this.

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Speaker 1: Now you're bigger than all these hopes. You're fucking killing

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Speaker 1: it really wild. Well, it was such a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I'm so appreciative. Keep rocking the industry.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, baby,