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Speaker 1: We met probably thirty years ago, saying I was doing

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Speaker 1: that's hard to understand right now, and I'm not expecting

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Speaker 1: Sitting here with the co host of the Brent Lamb

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Speaker 1: Podcast said, yeah, Hayley's the boss. Okay, daughter, your daughter, Yes,

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Speaker 1: she's the boss. But yeah, we're you have so many stories.

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Speaker 1: every week she's like, hey, Dad, tell me the story

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. Oh I do remember that. I got

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Speaker 1: It's people were already at the house, sitting around. We're

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Speaker 1: always eating. Yeah, obviously, but then we would tell stories.

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Speaker 1: And she's like, Dad, you're not touring anymore. We can't

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Speaker 1: you are a plethora. Podcast are perfect for you. Perfect?

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Speaker 1: Does she tell you to say that? No, But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna throw this to you. I have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you some subject and you're gonna pick

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Speaker 1: the next one. Okay, Parenting and death? Should I stay

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Speaker 1: or should I leave? Help? We have a marriage, faith

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Speaker 1: and mental health. We have girl help and faith, and

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Speaker 1: You talked to my wife about that? What was the

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Speaker 1: first one? Parenting and death? Let's talk about parenting and death. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: says hello. My name is Justin from Alberta, Canada. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for reading my question. Okay, guys, I have a difficult

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Speaker 1: two twin boys. They're almost three. Their birth mother and

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Speaker 1: I separated a year and a half ago, and that

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Speaker 1: time both of us moved on and found someone new.

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Speaker 1: My girlfriend has been mom to the boys almost a year,

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Speaker 1: Comes from Justin and Alberta and justified in all your questions. Brother.

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Speaker 1: And there's two parts to this. There's how do you

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Speaker 1: do this? So we could tackle we could jump into

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Speaker 1: both of these. I think my first thing would be,

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Speaker 1: not forever, it's it's just now. It's not a disrespect thing, right,

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Speaker 1: this is a this is smart parenting. I think take

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Speaker 1: it down. Take it down so the questions go away

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Speaker 1: for now, and then as they get older, the question.

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Speaker 1: I can guarantee you the questions will come back, yep,

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Speaker 1: the question of who who is that? When they see

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Speaker 1: that was my birth mom. You all divorced, and then

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Speaker 1: they and I think, you know, as far as how

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? Yeah? Who did it? What happened? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The second thing that about why does God let things happen?

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Speaker 1: There's a lot. I think there's a lot of reasons

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Speaker 1: but the why is always there. But as long as

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Speaker 1: as long as the why keeps us moving towards the father,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I lost my mom in January and

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Speaker 1: the waiting. He has to get the glory in the breaking.

634
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Speaker 1: He has to get the glory and the healing. He

635
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: has to get glory and the breakthrough, which is a

636
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: song we sing at church and just real quick when

637
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Speaker 1: some people hear that, they're like, why does a sovereign

638
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: God need to get glory. He doesn't need to need it,

639
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: but he knows that's what makes us better. Yeah, we're

640
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: image bearers. That's what's gonna make us in perfect thankfulness,

641
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: praise worship in the end. Yeah, we're ambassadors. And it's

642
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: like the world wants us. When they look at us,

643
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: they're going to want to know who he is. And

644
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: so that's why we have that responsibility exactly. So justin

645
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Speaker 1: when you ask a question like I understand God calls

646
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: people home early, but why like that? Why like that? Well,

647
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Speaker 1: as a non believer, there is no reason. It's just chance,

648
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: your stardust. You're here one day, you're gone the next,

649
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: and it never mattered. A terrible accident, a horrible event

650
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: like a murder like this, Oh whoops, an accident you

651
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: just drop milk out of the fridge and it's spilt

652
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: all on the floor, same thing as a murder. But

653
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Speaker 1: when you're a believer, you might not know why, you

654
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: never will probably, but you know there is a reason

655
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: and it matters and it's important, and it's all part

656
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: of a greater plan, a greater purpose. And you go,

657
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: how is murder part of a purpose? But we know

658
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Speaker 1: that there is, because we know we have a creator

659
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Speaker 1: that's sovereign, and your alternative is to be a non

660
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Speaker 1: believer and go whoops, that was a waste of breath.

661
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: Murphy's law. Yeah at best? Wow, how would you believe

662
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 1: in that? Like? Yeah, God is sovereign and we don't

663
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: know why we we you know, we know sometimes people

664
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Speaker 1: die early. And I don't even like to use the

665
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Speaker 1: word die because Jesus wouldn't use it. I like the

666
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Speaker 1: word graduate. Jesus looks at us. What Brent's saying is

667
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Speaker 1: eternal beings. There is no death to God. There is

668
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Speaker 1: no death. We're all alive in him. Yeah. Yeah, and

669
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Speaker 1: this this house was made for however long his plan

670
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Speaker 1: for it. And then we step out of that. And

671
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean there's times that he that people go early

672
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Speaker 1: so that he can get glory out of they're passing.

673
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's to make those those people around him, draw

674
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Speaker 1: them closer to him. You know, My my wife's dad

675
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: passed early in his fifties from cancer, and we were

676
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: convinced the Lord was healing. We're convinced, Look what you

677
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: could do, God, You'll you'll show your glory to so

678
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: many people if you just do this one healing, this yeah,

679
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: this will be incredible. That's our brains. And what I

680
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: tell you now is God healed him ultimately, healing way

681
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: more than the cancer. He took him home, you know.

682
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: And and what we've seen out of his graduation in

683
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: in his fifties has been incredible. We can't I can't

684
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: tell you how many people have come and said, man,

685
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how y'all did that. Think. We know

686
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: because the Lord was there and he we trusted him completely.

687
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: There was no question. And so there's there's people like

688
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: that that come. So who knows justin I mean, there

689
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Speaker 1: may be a time as your twins grow up, and

690
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: and as as a father of twins, I will tell

691
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: you you will make its. You will sleep some other time,

692
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: but you don't know what God wants to do in

693
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: their lives exactly. And I'm you know, as I get older,

694
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: the table just always turns, and there's always these tragedies

695
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: or these questions that happen in life and then somebody

696
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Speaker 1: later years later will say here's what I'm going through,

697
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, I went through that, And in

698
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: that moment, that's how God gets glory. You bring comfort

699
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: to them, You show them love and grace and you

700
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Speaker 1: walk with them, you know through it. And so right

701
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: now the why just I don't know why. So change

702
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: the why to what? Change the why to why God

703
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: instead to what do I need to know from this? God? Exactly?

704
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What are you doing through this

705
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: to me, to my boys, to our future? What is

706
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: it that I need to pull from this that you're

707
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: showing me? Change your why to a what? It makes you?

708
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: It makes you have an action instead of you're in

709
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: retreat mode. When you say why, you go forward with what? What?

710
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: What are we? What are we going to learn? I

711
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: love to take the picture down from now and then

712
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna have plenty of time too to meditate and

713
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: prayer of this and to really figure out what you're

714
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: going to do moving forward. People, when when we say

715
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: stuff like this, Brent, when we say God allows suffering

716
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: for reasons in a in a fall and broken world.

717
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: The world is naturally falling apart until it's redeemed. But

718
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: when when we when we say that some of that stuff,

719
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: some people will go So these sick kids in Africa,

720
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: that's that's your God doing that. And I say, take

721
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: take away suffering out of this world. Take away any

722
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: kind of problems, take away the extreme pain, take away

723
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: the murders, and you're left with an empty blob. Right

724
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: there's with nothing to redeem, with nothing to be saved from.

725
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: In heaven we will, we will be in eternal worship

726
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: because of what we have seen, the fallen brokenness we

727
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: have seen creates within us during that redemption eternal worship.

728
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: Take take adversity out of football. What are you left with, sucker,

729
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, take a football. Take a Super Bowl champ

730
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: team and take away everything in their season that had

731
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 1: to do with adversity. And what does that trophy mean

732
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: to them? Exactly? Yeah, I tell you, man, it's we

733
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: live in a fallen world and just because things happen

734
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that God is doing them as much as

735
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: he may be allowing them, exactly because He's going to

736
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: have his day, the day of the Lord's coming, and

737
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: he's going to settle up. Oh yeah, So we have

738
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Speaker 1: an enemy that is from the garden, has been, has

739
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: been trying to stop what God wants to do, and

740
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: we don't. We're not part of the you know, the

741
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Divine council. As Psalms eighty two says, we don't know

742
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: what he's doing. But our part is as image bearers,

743
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: is to trust him. And we've all had I've had

744
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: those times, just in the last ten years, sitting in

745
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: my back porch, and my whole prayer life, my whole

746
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: spiritual journey, everything had been whittled down to all I

747
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: could say to him was I trust you. I trust you. Yeah,

748
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: everything else is gone. I can't see tomorrow. I don't

749
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: even want to be here tomorrow. I trust you. Oh,

750
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: that's so good, that's so good. Justin I'd go in

751
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: there tonight after you hear this podcast. I'd go in

752
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: there tonight when those boys are sleeping, and then I'll

753
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: just lay my hands on those boys, yep, and I'll

754
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: just say, God, give me, give me, give me strength,

755
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: Give me the wisdom to know what to say when

756
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: the time has comes with these boys. Give me the

757
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: strength to know what to say to them. I'm weak.

758
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: I can't do this without you, anything that with something

759
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: this horrible, it's this kind of murder. The only thing

760
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: that's going to get them through is you. And give

761
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: me those words. Give me the strength to show them,

762
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: to guide and to lead them to You, and use

763
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: it for glory and use this, and God use this.

764
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: Let them use this story of their murdered mother. Let

765
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: them use this for your kingdom and watch miracles happen,

766
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: and write them down. I would add, I have. My

767
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: boys are in their late thirties, and I have I

768
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: have their life. When it was a tragedy, a teachable moment,

769
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: something hilarious, Uh, this will obedience. That turned into a

770
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: teaching moment. We wrote them letters. And now that they

771
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: their adults and they have their own children, holidays, what

772
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: do they want to do? They want to get those

773
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: letters out of there. That's so great. Yeah, and so

774
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: I have Yeah. So I also have Gmail email accounts

775
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: for my grandkids that they don't know about. So at

776
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: some point, when they graduate high school, I'm going to

777
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: give them the password and they're going to have their

778
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: whole life me emailing them about this is what happened,

779
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: this is Oh, that's so you You made an email

780
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: for them, Yeah, and then you sent it. You sent

781
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: letters to them. No, I haven't sent them yet, but

782
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: you sent letters to the email account, typing emails to

783
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: their account, their account. When they're eighteen, they get the

784
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: password and then they'll be able to sit and read. Yeah,

785
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: and guess how about does that cost z? That's free.

786
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: That's free. Man, that's so good. That's so good. If

787
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: you get anything out of this podcast, that's good. That's good.

788
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: Stop all right, We're going to switch gears to a

789
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: good old relations looks like this is going to be

790
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: a relationship question. Should I stay or should I leave? Hi?

791
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: My name is Morgan. I'm twenty five years old. I'm

792
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: an eight year relationship. My boyfriend is seven years older

793
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: than me. My math says that he's thirty two. He

794
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: comes with a traumatic from a traumatic childhood. At nineteen

795
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: years old, I had the responsibility of taking care of

796
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: a broken alcoholic. I sacrificed my life in giving this

797
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: person all the time, which resulted in me neglecting myself

798
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: for several years. He did stop drinking, and because his

799
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: health was declining, it wasn't for It wasn't for me

800
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: or himself, which I begged for for years. He doesn't work.

801
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: Make sure I'm reading this right. I take care of

802
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: the finances and most of the household responsibilities. He doubts

803
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: the relationship I have with God and doesn't share the

804
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: same extent of beliefs as I do with God. I

805
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: started noticing myself getting lost over the years. Imagine that

806
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: I started putting myself first and finding my purpose in

807
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: life later. My boyfriend, on the other hand, doesn't want

808
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: the same things as me. I feel like I'm outgrowing him.

809
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: There is only so much I could say to try

810
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: to get him to grow with me. I know he

811
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: loves me, which is hard for the outside world to understand.

812
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: But I've seen the deepest parts of him, and I

813
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: want to believe that he does. Do I stay because

814
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: I know he loves me, and sacrifices and sacrifice more

815
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: of my own mental health because I don't believe in

816
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: giving up on the things and people that you love.

817
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: Or do I leave, putting myself first, or stay and

818
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: fix my and say and fix myself and work on

819
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: my relationship with God, my own relationship with God that

820
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: comes from Morgan boyfriend boyfriend. Yeah, if this is an

821
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: easy one for me? Yeah, if if they were married, Yeah,

822
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: when you're when your husband over by the word, Yeah,

823
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: you're not married, you deserve better, Yes, Morgan, Yeah, this

824
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: is easy. I know it's easy for Brent, and it's

825
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: it's it's your you are, you are have already made

826
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: up your mind by the tone of your email, and

827
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: that this email to me is like an last stitch

828
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: effort to just maybe Graineerd thinks that maybe I should

829
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: stay because there's there's this weird thought with people that

830
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: you should never give up what you say, never give

831
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: up on the things and people you love. What is that?

832
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what that that doesn't line up with

833
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: very many things that I that I believe. No, And

834
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: I would just remind you, Morgan, love is a verb. Yeah,

835
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: it's it's not a feeling. It's yes, you're you deserve better.

836
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: You deserve a man, not a boy who can shave.

837
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: You deserve a man who will love you, and you

838
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: will know he loves you by what he does for you,

839
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: and that he leads and he serves you. And I

840
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: would encourage you to read Romans twelve ten. He says,

841
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: be devoted in love, and honor one another and prefer

842
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: one another above yourselves. That's why I'm still married after

843
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: forty years, because that was our verse. Yeah, Morgan, man,

844
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: you're not the seventeen year old that you were when

845
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: you met him, right, And it's a human nature to

846
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: try to fix something. You see this poor helpless man,

847
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: he's he had a broken childhood, so I could come

848
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: in and try to fix him. And the truth is,

849
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: it's just not your responsibility as a girlfriend. You have

850
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: your own things to do with as a seventeen year

851
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: old when you met him, other than fixing a broken child.

852
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: That it's just it sounds selfish, and I want you

853
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: to take that word kind of out of your your

854
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: vocabulary because until you're married, you need to be selfish

855
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: as possible, because we're not just talking about you. Once

856
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: you do get married, talking about kids, grandkids. This just

857
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: starts spreading out. And so if you're not selfish now

858
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: where you are a single, then you're gonna fall into

859
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: a relationship. Then you're get married, then there's gonna be kids.

860
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna have kids of a broken man, and

861
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: then grandkids of a broken grandpa with broke probably broken

862
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: fathers because of the broken grandpa. And it's just a

863
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: chain reaction that you could stop right now. You are

864
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: attracted so many people. This is hard to hear, but

865
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: you become attracted to the mirror image of what you

866
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: think you deserve, right, and you have to stop. You

867
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: have to stop thinking that you deserve a project you

868
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: are now a twenty five year old woman that deserves

869
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: a man, like Brent said, not just a man that shaves,

870
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: but a man. Yeah, not just a boy that shaves,

871
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: but a man in every essence that is gonna be

872
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: a co equal in this relationship with you. That's gonna

873
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: contribute man things and you're gonna contribute woman things, right,

874
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: and you're gonna create this, this, this God ordained marriage. Eventually,

875
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: you're dating to Mary, not You're not dating for a

876
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: boyfriend to fix, right, You're looking for the next one.

877
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping you're gonna You're gonna break up with

878
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: this guy and you could do it in a loving

879
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: way and and still love him. I'll love him as

880
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 1: a person, and it's not denying his love for you.

881
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: But the next relationship you're going in is looking to marry,

882
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be seven years, it's not gonna

883
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: be ten years. And if someone wants to fool around

884
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: with you for seven years, that's a boy that shaves. Yeah,

885
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: the next one is a potential husband. So I'm sorry

886
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: that you're that you're that you're in this, But I

887
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: think a lot of people listen are going, oh, that's me,

888
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: that's me too. Yeah, And I mean I keep thinking

889
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: about the verse that Paul says, guard your heart above

890
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: all else, because out of it flow the issues of life.

891
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: You've you need to really guard your heart and not

892
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: I don't know you. I know me, and as a

893
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: young guy, I would easily give my heart to people

894
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: because I had compassion. Yes, and all of a sudden,

895
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: you can get then now you these because you had

896
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: love and compassion for people. Now, my heart was full

897
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: of all these things and people in these situations and

898
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: all these issues in life. And then that's when you

899
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: that's when you write emails like this, should I go

900
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: or should I stay? It's like, yeah, I would say

901
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: right now, just without having say look, we know it all.

902
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: This is what you need to do, and if you don't,

903
00:52:53,719 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: you're crazy. Just based on experience, and I know the

904
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: scripture would say you deserve better. Leave him, yeah, and

905
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: let him go get well as a man. And who knows,

906
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: maybe he'll go somewhere, he'll get well from his past,

907
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: he'll have another man pour into his life, teach him

908
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: how to be a man, teach him how to lead. Yeah,

909
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: and then who knows, he may be what you need

910
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: in the future, but he's not right now. Yeah, and

911
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: knowing that you don't wait around on him either. No,

912
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: it could happen, but you don't. You're not going, Okay,

913
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: let me know when you get things fixed up and

914
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: call me again. In fact, I wouldn't even leave that

915
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: door open, no, or call him every two weeks like

916
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: how's it going, like, no, it's just time to move

917
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: on for now. Yeah. And to this guy, if he's listening,

918
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: this is not on you, brother, this is not on you.

919
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: This is a very common situation, and we could sometimes

920
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: lean into a girlfriend like, hey, I'm broken, you fix me.

921
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: Fix me right. That's not her job. That's not her job.

922
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: Brent said it right, an older mentor a father figure

923
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: that I'm assuming I'm assuming you don't have in your

924
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: life because she says you have a traumatic childhood. I'm

925
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: assuming that usually that's the absence of a father figure.

926
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: So you could find this at your local church. You

927
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: could find father figures and coaches, but you need you

928
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: need someone to pour indy and go come on, like

929
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: Brent says, let's go get some coffee. In fact, if

930
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: you're in Dallas, Texas area, yeah, Brent lambs for hire.

931
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: He eats breakfast in all kinds of places and drinks

932
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: coffee I eat every morning. So yeah, so this is

933
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: so a couple of minutes left on this podcast. Let

934
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into another question. I want

935
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: to theoretically pour into this man, right, I don't think

936
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: he's listening. But you, as a mentor, how would you

937
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: pour into this guy if he came to you and go, hey,

938
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: Morgan broke up with me. Now I got nothing. Yep.

939
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: I would sit down with him and say, look, let's

940
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: let's work through however much you can of your past,

941
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: and then let's start. Let's let's get that done and settled.

942
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: It's in the past, you can't do anything about it.

943
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: Let's let's try to figure out how how you can

944
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: get well enough when you think about that or you

945
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: have emotion about what happened to you, and then let's

946
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: let's put that over here, and then let's start building

947
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: where you are now, and then then let's be let's

948
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: start thinking about what you want to be. Yeah, I'll

949
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: tell you I'm a pastor, but I would honestly tell

950
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: you I am the man that I am, not because

951
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm a pastor that I'm on church staff that I've

952
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: had the career I had not because I go to

953
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, five by uh five Bible studies every week.

954
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: I am the person and the man I am is

955
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: because when I was thirty two years old, a guy

956
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: in his fifties looked at me and said, what's your plan?

957
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: And I said my plan for what? What kind of

958
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: husband are you going to be? What kind of man

959
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: are you going to be? What kind of dad are

960
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: you going to be? And when people tell your story,

961
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: which they will, Yeah, what story are they going to tell?

962
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: Are they? Is your story going to be? He was

963
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: a country star and he made a lot of money,

964
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: but he never was there, or he went to church,

965
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: but he never lived it. Like what it like? They're

966
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: going to tell your story, somebody that comes behind you,

967
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: They're going to tell your story. So what kind of

968
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: story are they going to tell? So I would look

969
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: at this guy across the booth, as the way matresses

970
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: refill in my coffee, I would say, what kind of

971
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: story are you writing? Your life on this earth is

972
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: a story? You're writing it now? Us as songwriters, there's

973
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: things we write and they're upbeat and people want to dance,

974
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: and then that we write stuff that people want to

975
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: think about, and then some stuff is sad or stuff

976
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: or there's a bridge that turns and you go, I

977
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: hate this part of the song. And I've always looked

978
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: at my life as a song. And there's parts of

979
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: the song I love and there's parts of the song

980
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't like. But you got to play the whole song. Yeah,

981
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: And if it's a song and there's a story in

982
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: that song, decide now, as a young guy, what's your plan?

983
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: What story are you going to write? You've heard of

984
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: Billy Graham. Everybody's heard of Billy Graham. Have you heard

985
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: of bron Clifford, No, you haven't. They said he was

986
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: the best evangelist, and that Billy Graham. When they would

987
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: do interviews, people would interview this guy and they wouldn't

988
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: even give Graham the time of day. But after five years,

989
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: he left the ministry, left his family, and he died

990
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: in a drunken stupor in a motel in Emerald, Texas.

991
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: And you've never heard of him. That's his story. Yeah,

992
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: And then you look at Billy Graham's store and you go,

993
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: that's a much better story. So you know what's interesting,

994
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: what we could say, could we can go back to

995
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: the guy with the twins, and we could say, what's

996
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: your story with these boys? Are they going to be

997
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: seventeen years old, traumatic childhood kid that's looking for Morgan

998
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: to fix them because they've dabbled with alcohol and they

999
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: have so many problems. So you go back to those

1000
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: three year old boys, and I go, Okay, first of all,

1001
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: you got a chance right now, you're old. These boys,

1002
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: you're writing their story. You're writing their story right now.

1003
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: And here's what happens if if you if you let

1004
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: this loose, if you don't go lay your hands on

1005
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: them the night and say, God, I can't do this,

1006
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't have the power to do this alone. Help me.

1007
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: If you don't do that now with these boys, then

1008
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: they're up to the world. You're gonna give them to

1009
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: the world. And when you give them up to the world,

1010
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: it's up for chance. They will write a story the

1011
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: world will write there, yes, yes, yeah. And then for

1012
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: the guy here, what Brent said, Now, you have a chance.

1013
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: You didn't have the opportunity for as a three year

1014
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: old to have to be fathered, but you have a

1015
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: chance now to start today, to start today and not

1016
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: rely on Morgan, new chapter, new chapter. This is good.

1017
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: That's all the time we have, brother, but man, let's uh,

1018
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: let's do this again. Brent lamb podcast and then comment on.

1019
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: If you're watching YouTube, comment below and say I want

1020
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: to see more Brent. We got to get them to

1021
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: drive on here to Central Texas a couple more times

1022
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: than anytime. More. Say more Brent in those comments. Love you,

1023
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: brother man, Love you guys. We'll see you next time.

1024
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me on the granger Smith Podcast. I

1025
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,520
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1026
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1029
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,600
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1030
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,480
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1031
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