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Speaker 1: Scarable advice Shot Spice, Welcome to the Naughty but NICEA Hey,

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Speaker 1: we got through another week together, didn't we. I robbed

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Speaker 1: At the end of a sentence, there, I say, is

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Speaker 1: our friend Corey Andrew, Hey, Cory are you there? I

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Speaker 1: am here. I love that, but I think I'm more

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Speaker 1: like an exclamation, Oh you're right, little extra, extra extra Corey. Corey,

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Speaker 1: were you always extra when you were a little boys

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Speaker 1: skipping around in your shorts at school? Were you extra? Yes? Yes,

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Speaker 1: in fact us all these old photos of me at

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Speaker 1: my mom's house and a well you never take it off,

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Speaker 1: my friend. We love it here on the Naughty but

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Speaker 1: I Show, Hey, let's jump in. What time is it,

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Speaker 1: my friends? It is tea time. So yes day we

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Speaker 1: touched briefly on HEATHERN McDonald a comedian and you know

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Speaker 1: her from the Chelsea Handler shows. She's a podcaster. She

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Speaker 1: called out Bethany Frankel for being one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: hypocrites in Hollywood. So what's happened is that Bethany is

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Speaker 1: trying to promote herself on TikTok. It's hard to join

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Speaker 1: any new platform if you're joining Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, you

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Speaker 1: start with zero followers, zero and you have to build

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Speaker 1: them up. And for somebody like Bethany, who has a

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Speaker 1: very healthy ego, let's say starting at zero is hard.

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Speaker 1: So she's trying to build up her followers on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that, but she's figured out the best

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Speaker 1: way to do it is to go after other celebrities.

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Speaker 1: So Bethany has been really going hard after the Kardashians,

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Speaker 1: and not just the ladies personally their businesses. Bethany did

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Speaker 1: a review of Kylie Jenner's makeup line and was vicious

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Speaker 1: about it. She would have to Kim's products. I think

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Speaker 1: she would have to Mega MARKO two. So if you

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Speaker 1: are the lead of the Naughty but Nice Show, if

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Speaker 1: you're a celebrity that we talked about a lot, Bethany

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Speaker 1: jumps onto that criticizes you and then gets a lot

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Speaker 1: of press. Very very clever. However, Heaven McDonald is pointing

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Speaker 1: out that somebody else on TikTok a young entrepreneur, her

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Speaker 1: name is Meredith Lynch. Go follow her. She reviewed some

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Speaker 1: of the Skinny Girl products and she didn't like them.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people who have tried these products are

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Speaker 1: of Skinny Girl when it first launched. It wasn't for me.

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Speaker 1: It just wasn't something that I would drink it for me,

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Speaker 1: that cheap stuff. I can't call it. I'm too old now,

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Speaker 1: so I wake up like, oh, you know, I still

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Speaker 1: better quality if you drink good, good liquor, so Meredith

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Speaker 1: went on, she was not a fan of the Skinny

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Speaker 1: Girl products. Bethany fired off her cease and desist letter.

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Speaker 1: Her lawyers contacted this person, and now heaven is saying

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Speaker 1: this is really bad Bethany, because you can criticize everybody,

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Speaker 1: but nobody can criticize you. Other people are now saying

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Speaker 1: Bethany is a big phony, a big hypocrite in the business.

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Speaker 1: I think that the backlash to this is going to

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Speaker 1: maybe it's time that people turn on Bethania and see

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Speaker 1: that she might not be that nice. What do you think, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's been pretty evident that she's not nice

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Speaker 1: sort of being backhanded with this. You know you, it's

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Speaker 1: a compliment. You know that, but it's a backhanded compliment.

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Speaker 1: But I will say, you know that TikTok demographic. You

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Speaker 1: need that as a business, yes, And if you are

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Speaker 1: doing by then attacking the content creators who are responding

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Speaker 1: in well for you in that demographic. So as a

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Speaker 1: It doesn't pay in the long run. I joined TikTok

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Speaker 1: just wasn't for me. I do the Instagram, I do

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Speaker 1: am ambitious. I'm not saying I'm not. I'm ambitious, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not willing to do the work on TikTok. But

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Speaker 1: business model of jumping on hot stories given my two cents.

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Speaker 1: I've met you, so I can say what you're really like.

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Speaker 1: And then I sat back down and had another vodka bash.

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Speaker 1: You know she's going to face backlash, So you you

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Speaker 1: the Who does she think she? Oh my gosh, she's

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Speaker 1: the one thing I know about the public on social media, girl,

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Speaker 1: get to car Hich. She doesn't need to do this.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to make her any money on TikTok

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Speaker 1: She get massive about the followers. So I just don't

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. She's doing it for the reason of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so many celebrities do it to just speak in in

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Speaker 1: that doing her as the leader the show is probably

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Speaker 1: playing into what she wants. Now. I know. It's wild,

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Speaker 1: Kardashians or other celebrities. It seems to be a new

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Speaker 1: way to be famous, that if you knock other people,

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Speaker 1: on I know and I know about them, Corey, I

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Speaker 1: really could get a lot of attention for saying some

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Speaker 1: shocking but truthful things. Not for me, darlings. What we

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Speaker 1: care about is what you think. So heathern McDonald cause

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Speaker 1: Bethanie the biggest hypocrite in Horllywood? Are you team Heather

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Speaker 1: Naughty Nice rather on Facebook page nought gossip. I'm you sure?

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Speaker 1: what are working on a little controversy here? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she has? But you know it's funny. It really kind

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Speaker 1: of ties into the previous story. I having McDonald in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, and I will tell you why in a moment. Now,

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Speaker 1: Candice Owens, she's like leaking these old Kardashian audio bits

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Speaker 1: leaking some audio of an old Kardashian, well Kim Kardashian voicemail. Now.

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Speaker 1: The audio, which was initially sent to Ray J, allegedly

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Speaker 1: features Kim making disparaging comments about her ex boyfriend's former

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Speaker 1: Candice says, it is the opposite version of the Kim

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Speaker 1: But a voice comes on in the audio and says,

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Speaker 1: Whitney Houston. She's so sick. Crack is definitely not whack

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Speaker 1: The situation becomes even more layered, as the Internet was

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Speaker 1: quick to recall that Kim expressed her love for Whitney

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Speaker 1: seems like Candice has lately been doing that exact same formula,

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Speaker 1: her boyfriend's ex or new girlfriend. I sort of get

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Speaker 1: that dynamic, And I do you think you're allowed to

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure Kim would be doing that to now

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Speaker 1: doing that today. But Candi's Owens is a difficult character

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Speaker 1: and I'm not really quite sure. If you don't know her,

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Speaker 1: she's like a provocateur, a political provocateur and not really

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Speaker 1: And so I think him is going to be just

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Speaker 1: fine by this. But you're right, it's the Bethanie frank

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Speaker 1: Or school of fame. Find somebody that's more famous, talk

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Speaker 1: It's lazy. That's what it is. Lazy, and it always works.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it. That's why people work. That's

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