1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Grab audio, say number two, and see over the weekend 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: that the war in Afghanistan's over. Yeah, I remember on Friday, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: if you recall if you were here, you might not 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: have been because it's a big travel weekend. But one 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: of the things just I want to revisit something I 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: grabbed somebody. Number one. Let's going to just play the 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: audio of me, uh last Friday as we headed into 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: the Memorial Day weekend, because this sets up this Afghanistan comma. 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: This to me is one of the most important Memorial Days, 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: and they're all important. Even that little characterization should give 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: you an idea how tough this one is to talk 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: about this particular Memorial Day with everything going on in 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: the Iraq and the Middle East, and isis now just 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: running out of control and our leadership seemingly unconcerned the 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Iranians nuking up. But Iraq and what's happening there has 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: got to make this Memorial Day a real challenge for 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: a lot of American families, those who had family members 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: has served in the Rock, who were injured and wounded 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: in the Rock or died in the Rock. I mean, 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: they might legitimately be asking themselves this weekend, this Memorial Day. 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Why what was the point? Was it worth it? And 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: you wouldn't blame them if they did. It's a toughie 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: still needs to be acknowledged. Yeah, and I can't help 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: but remember as I listen to myself say that, boy, 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: it's every time I do that reminded how lucky you 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: people are that you actually get to listen to me. 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: I never do not live. I can't. I mean, I'm 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: too busy doing it because I am me. Some time 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: I get to hear me is like this audios found 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: by it or something, it just strikes me how fortunate 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: you are anyway, say listen this. I'm I'm also reminded 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: about how Obama and Biden out there claiming victory in 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: the Rock was so Iraq was a success story shortly 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: after Obama had been immaculated and accepted the Nobel Peace Prize. 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Is that not an ongoing joke, A poor joke, a 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: bad joke. But isn't it typical anyway? So they're out 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: there claiming credit they wanted to claim credit for the 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: victory in the Rocket was so good, things were so stable, 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: it looked like such a success. And now look Ramadi 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: falls and now we're told by our Department of Defense 41 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: wizards that're smart that Yeah, well, the Iraqis are getting 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: ready to fight back. The Iraqis know that they've got 43 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: to defend themselves. The Iraqis know they've got to take 44 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: all the training we've gave them, and they've got to 45 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: act in their own interest. Now, the Iraqis are gonna 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: be preparing to take Ramani back, right exactly, you gotta 47 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: get them back first. They've all split. I mean, it's 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: just and here's Obama. This is yesterday in Arlington, Virginia, 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: at the at the Arlington National Cemetery. Just a brief, 50 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: little sixteen second SoundBite here. For many of us, this 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: Memorial Day is especially meaningful. It is the first since 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: our war in Afghanistan came to an end. Today is 53 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: the first Memorial Day in fourteen years that the United 54 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: States is not engaged in a major ground war. There 55 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: wasn't any applause there. Why why do you suspect there 56 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: wasn't any applause when Obama's I mean, you would think 57 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: that a line like that, right on, dude, Yes, the 58 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: rebub But when he said today's the first Memorial Day 59 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: of fourteen years, the United States not engaged in a 60 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: major ground war. Why wasn't there any applause? Take a stab, 61 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: Mr snurd Ley. Exactly we're losing them, is why they 62 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: don't like losing. The website Vox, which is relatively new website. 63 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: It's a home of h I say, the the young 64 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: whipper snapper, young liberal journalists who were working at the 65 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Washington Post, I guess reclined some other places and they 66 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: just you know, they felt constrained even there, so they 67 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: formed their own place here called Vox. And a bunch 68 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: of young, hip millennial journalists of all stripes swear by it. 69 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: They have a story, even idea, what happens on Vox 70 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: here we are the today. So this is actually this 71 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: was ran Yesterday's posted yesterday. So the Sunday, the Monday 72 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: Memorial Day actually ran a Memorial Day. Is this story. 73 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: It's time we have a holiday to honor those who 74 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: try to stop wars too. I it's not enough that 75 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: we have a Memorial Day where we remember American military 76 00:04:52,520 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: veterans who died preserving freedom from the United States. And 77 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: it's not enough. No no no, no, no, no, no no no. 78 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Now we need a holiday to honor those who try 79 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: to stop wars too. I don't know what they want 80 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: to call it. Uh starts off by say, Memorial Day 81 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: and Veterans Day often get equated, but there's an essential 82 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: distinction between the two. Veterans Day honors all who have served. 83 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Memorial Day honors those have died. It's an annual reminder 84 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: that wars have grave human costs. Those costs are not inevitable. 85 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: We also ought to set aside time to remember those 86 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: throughout American history have tried the hardest to reduce war, 87 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: to stop and prevent a necessary loss of life, both 88 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: American and foreign. And that would be the war resistors, 89 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: the war protesters. That's exactly what we need, don't especially 90 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: on this Memorial Day where the families of American uniformed 91 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 1: military personnel who were injured or perished in Iraq, you really, 92 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, you try to put yourself in their shoes 93 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: and imagine how tough the memorial they was. Every day's 94 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: got to be tough for them. But now, particularly when 95 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: you see Isis on the run and these families are 96 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: you know they are they're asking themselves was it worth it? 97 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: They're all volunteers, These people signed up. I mean I've 98 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: done a troop visit to Afghanistan. I've talked to these guys, 99 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: these these women too. This is what they did to 100 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: save their countries and what they did to protect their countries. 101 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: All they knew to do. They joined the military after 102 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: nine eleven. They wanted to just to serve. They wanted 103 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: to protect, They wanted to defend America. They didn't want 104 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: every to see that happening. Again, that's the only reason 105 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: they did it. Some of them got shipped out to 106 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: a rock, some of them got killed. Family is well aware. 107 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: And now running around there's Obamas celebrating first Memorial Day 108 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: at fourteen years that we're not at war and everybody knows, yeah, 109 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: because we're cutting and running and losing them and Americans 110 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: don't like celebrating that kind of stuff, and now have 111 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: heaped on top of that. We need to set aside 112 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: a national day for war protesters. You mean people like 113 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: Tom Hayden and Abby Hoffman, the Chicago eight or whoever, 114 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: people like what's his name, Neville Chamberlain. That kind of 115 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: need a national holiday for people like that all over 116 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: the world. By the way, war protesters all over the world. That, yeah, 117 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: that's exactly what we need, folks, exactly, this is Robert 118 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: and Coronado, California are really glad that you called Robert. 119 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Great to have you with us today. Hi oh hi 120 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: rush Um. I share a hometown with Paul Tibbotts Quincy, Illinois, 121 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: who was the pilot of the Nolan Gay. And I 122 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: think in that vein um, if we're going to try 123 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: to honor people who ended wars, I would start with 124 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: probably Harry Truman as my the first honoree, and then 125 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: maybe even like the crew of the Enola Gay would 126 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: be right up there. Yeah, this is great, Robert. I 127 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: have to applaud you. This is great thinking what he's 128 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: reacting to, folks. Does this story and the in a 129 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: relatively new left wing child left wing website called Vox 130 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: called It's time and Day and it ran it yesterday 131 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Memorial Day. It's time that we have a holiday to 132 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: honor those who try to stop wars too. Now they're 133 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: not thinking of guys that drop bombs on the enemy 134 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: to win the war. That that'd be great. They'll just 135 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: throw Harry Truman at him and Paul Tipots had got 136 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: it flew the you know the game is exactly right. 137 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: And then the whole team that worked on the development 138 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: of the nuclear bomb, you know, put them up there 139 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: to honor them. I mean, just go a whole hog 140 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: with this. But that's not what they're thinking, as you know, 141 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: they're thinking to people like Tom Hayden and Abby Hoffman 142 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: and uh typically anti war, Global Peace March, AI Nuclear Disarm, 143 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: Reme Murder, what have you. But they mean war protesters. 144 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: And I don't think that they would think of Harry 145 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: Truman as a protester, but I love your idea. You 146 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: bet he was speechless. I know this happens. It's a 147 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: caller calls and the host praises them and agrees with them, 148 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: and they don't know what to say. They're just so moved, 149 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: and I totally relate and understand it.