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Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, Welcome back, Tom looking at me. Look I'm crazy,

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Speaker 1: I'm hitting the lights. Whitch going? Why can't I talk? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wonder why the lights went out of the studio.

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Speaker 1: It's that kind of a thing, you know. It's just, uh,

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Speaker 1: sometimes simple gets complicated. The Car Doctor. When they went

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Speaker 1: out there, it started. So what they should have done

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Speaker 1: But they didn't. Then they speculated, you know what was

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Speaker 1: going on in let's sell something. We need more furniture.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right. Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nanian,

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and all in the garage doors are open.

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Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at eight

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Speaker 1: five and now running or we got lots of talk

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Speaker 1: about and lots of ground to cover, so let's get

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Speaker 1: right to it. Let's go to Adam in Connecticut Wrangler

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Speaker 1: and a clutch problem. Adam, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir,

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Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey, Ron? Yeah, I've got my jup.

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Speaker 1: Wrangler has been having a problem with the clutch where

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Speaker 1: I hadn't driven it furlier a couple of months, and

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Speaker 1: I took it out early spring and clutch started getting

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Speaker 1: up going to the floor. Couldn't couldn't shift anymore. UM

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Speaker 1: had to have a toad to the shop headed toad.

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Speaker 1: They put in a new master and slave cylinder, and

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Speaker 1: I went to go pick it up, drove it home

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Speaker 1: next morning, went to take it out and the clutch

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Speaker 1: slave cylinder, and UM, to make a long story short,

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Speaker 1: I had a toe back to them. They fixed it.

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Speaker 1: I took it back home, went out to take it

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Speaker 1: out the next day, and then it blew out at

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Speaker 1: the master cylinder, and then I had a toad back.

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Speaker 1: They fixed it again, and I went back to pick

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Speaker 1: it up, and I decided I was going to really

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Speaker 1: I could get to pop in their in their parking lot.

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Speaker 1: And I did, and every time it like it is

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Speaker 1: like it's a pop at the bottom when you get

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Speaker 1: the clutch all the way down to the floor. And

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Speaker 1: they keep telling me they keep telling me, you know,

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Speaker 1: they don't make parts for uh, they don't make these

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Speaker 1: claiming that the parts that they're getting are defective because

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Speaker 1: they're cheap and plastic, and they are replacing them over

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Speaker 1: and that doesn't seem right to me. Do you um,

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Speaker 1: do you eat? Do you eat? Do you like sandwiches? Yes? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you go to the deli, what do you usually get?

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Speaker 1: Roast beef, turkey ham, something like that, Yeah, yeah, each

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Speaker 1: of those. Do you like bologny? Uh, it's okay. My

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Speaker 1: son likes it better than as long as you're enjoying

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Speaker 1: it because you're getting it at two dollars a pound, brother,

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Speaker 1: because that's what that is. That's a bunch of bologne.

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Speaker 1: E um. You know, first of all, I'm not certain

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Speaker 1: christ Or doesn't make those parts anymore. They probably don't.

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Speaker 1: But you know, my argument in my head would be,

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Speaker 1: so you're telling me for the twelve gazillion jeeps that

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Speaker 1: are still on the road with plastic master cylinders and clutches,

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Speaker 1: everybody's changing their parts every day when they go bad,

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Speaker 1: that they can't. Man, if nobody makes anything that works, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a stupid comment that somebody's making.

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Speaker 1: And I don't use the word stupid lightly. I think

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Speaker 1: not the deal. So so it sounds like, you know,

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Speaker 1: what they've done at this point is they've just repetitively

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Speaker 1: the next time, the next time it fails, I go

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Speaker 1: And if he says, well, of course they are warranty,

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Speaker 1: make a metal one anyway. But even if they did,

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Speaker 1: then the line would probably just blow out. That's why

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Speaker 1: with the concept that maybe the pressure plate is bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to it. Well, you know, you see, in the world

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Speaker 1: have common sense. Uh so you know where I would go,

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Speaker 1: why don't you, Why don't you, Why don't you try this?

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Speaker 1: First of all? I honestly think the fact that it's

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Speaker 1: All right. Uh, you know, either either you're lying to me,

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Speaker 1: just don't want to work on it anymore. And I

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Speaker 1: it goes on behind closed doors, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So well, my my my biggest mistake was telling that

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Speaker 1: You know, it needed. The low side service line is

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Speaker 1: All right, it's Fiat, I understand. Uh, you know it's

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Speaker 1: I've yet to see it. I don't have it in

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Speaker 1: It's sat for two months. I keep having repetitive clutch

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Speaker 1: want them opening the transmission right. Well, right, I agree

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Speaker 1: always remember Okay, Bologne's. You know, I think bologna is

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Speaker 1: You know, how do you like your bologna? Because that's

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Speaker 1: what you're getting fed? Brother? All right? So you know,

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Speaker 1: and and and quadritech. Let me just say this quadritech

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Speaker 1: repetitive clutching master failure. What kind of problems do you

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Speaker 1: Chrysler jeep dealer. Yeah, call him up, say hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: the last eight or complete seventeen digit fins. So if

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Speaker 1: you have the serial number in front of for the vehicle,

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Speaker 1: say listen, I've got I've got such in such a vehicle.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna ask you for the vin information. I want

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Speaker 1: to know, you know, can you tell me price and availability?

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Speaker 1: Here's all you gotta say, price and availability of a

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Speaker 1: new clutch master and slave cylinder set up. Oh, sure, Adam,

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Speaker 1: we got one in stock. It's to fifty or no, Adam,

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Speaker 1: they don't make that anymore. At least you'll have the answer.

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Speaker 1: And then you can go serve your guys on bologney

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Speaker 1: sandwich or something else. All right, call me back, Adam.

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Speaker 1: I want to know, I really do. Alright, Thanks, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much, You're very welcome. Oh. Tom tells me, by

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Speaker 1: the way, the average price of bologny is forty nine pound,

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Speaker 1: So it's even more. We're going to say, my dad's

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Speaker 1: the one told me to give you a call, and

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Speaker 1: I owe him a beer now, so thanks very much. Good.

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Speaker 1: How can I help? All right? I got a ninety

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Speaker 1: It's pegged. The gauge I mean went way over to

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Speaker 1: my carboard is about I don't know two right, So

423
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: you should be seeing between eight and n s I

424
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: ambient temperature. All right, it's a direct correlation unless you've

425
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: been running the vehicle and it's real hot under the hood. No,

426
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: it's it's cool. Okay, So have another vehicle there with

427
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: they say, okay, once you put the gauge on the

428
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: other vehicle, if that car reads a hundred forty and

429
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: the a c works, fine, guess what the gauge is broken?

430
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: All right? All right, So so once we figure out

431
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: whether the gauge is any good or not, Yeah, how

432
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: do you know? How do you know your tools are right?

433
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: You know, let's listen. I go through this with scan tools.

434
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: I'll get a car that I can't communicate with and

435
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: you know, is it me? Is it the car? And

436
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: I'll go through this two or three times and I'll

437
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: be scratching my head and I hook it up to

438
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: another car and I find out it does it on

439
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: the second car the tools broken? Uh, you know, it happens, man,

440
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: It's just you got to verify. So let's go on.

441
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: Let's go on the assumption that the systems overcharged. That's

442
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: easy enough to resolve. But then you gotta explain to

443
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: me how it got overcharged. Did somebody else work on it?

444
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: You know, I don't go ahead. I charged last week,

445
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,479
Speaker 1: but because it was blowing warm air and the gauge

446
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: at the time was reading, uh well, it was reading

447
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: what they call, I guess the under charge. But what

448
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: was this thing? Yeah, it was under charge and it

449
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: was blowing warm here, but there was no sound coming

450
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 1: from the impressive it was probably reading. I don't know. Um,

451
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess and say ten pounds, Okay, ten pounds

452
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: is low charge. How many cans did you add? One? One, six, one,

453
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: sixteen ounce can? Twelve ounce, twelve ounce can? Even better?

454
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: So I think I think you've got another issue in

455
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: the system. Okay, okay, So that being said, is this

456
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: an automatic temp car or is this a non automatic

457
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: temp Car's electronic? A say, okay, I can start it

458
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: and you can listen. You want to release? Why not?

459
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 1: We'll do diagnosis by phone. I think that's what we do. Anyway,

460
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah, real quick. Jonathan National Radio Show fourteen

461
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: calls back up. We're gonna listen to Jonathan's ac in Mississippi.

462
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: Stand by, folks. Here's the big moment today. Life is

463
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: like a box of chocolates. I think I started this

464
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: on the beginning of the show. We was talking about

465
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 1: that words. I think we're about to get warm newgat

466
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: in the center or chocolate carmel. Let's see what happens. Sokay, Jonathan, Yeah, no,

467
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: do it again. Okay, we're waiting. Oh yeah, Jonathan, Yeah,

468
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: this the system is either extremely overcharged or or you've

469
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: got a restriction, that's high pressure. That sounds like the

470
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: high pressure dump valves opening in the back of the compressor.

471
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: Is there a wet spot anywhere around the compressor like

472
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: something's discharging. Are you seeing a guest discharge of any kind? Um,

473
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: be careful with your face, brother, because that's refrigerant. I

474
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: don't want you getting hurt. It's it's turned off. I'm

475
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: feeling around the compressor. Um, it's an yeah, it's it's

476
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: just that, you know, it sounds like it sounds like

477
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: the high pressure safety valve is blown off. So here's

478
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: what you gotta do, all right, Because those particular cars,

479
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, when the A C compressor wouldn't go on

480
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: normally they had there was more than a few switches

481
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: on those systems, all right. There was anywhere from two

482
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: to four different UH switches. Or there was an A

483
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: C pressure transducer, there was an a VAPT tempt sensor.

484
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: There was a bunch of things that prevent the A

485
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: C compressor from coming on. But your first problem is,

486
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, if you really have an overcharge, and I'm

487
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: starting to think at this point, somehow you do that.

488
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: You've got to get the correct amount of refrigerant into

489
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: the system. And the problem is you can't discharge what

490
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: you've got in there. You've got to find somebody willing

491
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: to draw it out and contain unless you have a machine.

492
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'll take it to us. I'll take it

493
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: to a shop, right, take it to an a c shop.

494
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: Let them pull out. What's in there now, in all

495
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: fairness to them, is the refrigerant you used didn't have

496
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: any lead excealer in it. No, I didn't, Okay, So

497
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: bring them that can show them what you put in it.

498
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: That will give them a warm, fuzzy feeling, so they're

499
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: not They know they're not going to hurt their six

500
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: thousand dollar air conditioning machine by putting in by drawing

501
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: in contaminant with you know, cheap refrigerant, all right, because

502
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: that can be an issue. You know. What I was

503
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: trying to avoid was them hearing the noise and the

504
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: sin as I heard the noise, saying, oh, you need

505
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: a new compressors. Well, and you might, but listen, you

506
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: know there's no reason why you can't. Look. Do you

507
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: ever go to the doctor and you're sick and you've

508
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: got something wrong with you and he gives you a diagnosis,

509
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: but you don't do it and you go to a

510
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: sick at a second opinion? Do you pay him for

511
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: that first opinion? You sure do. It's not against it's

512
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: not against the law. Brother, Go get go, get an

513
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: opinion from a professional and find out. Hey, what do

514
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: you think is wrong with this? All right? Um, pay

515
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: them for their time and then, but at least you'll

516
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: be safe and you're going in the right direction. Good

517
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: luck to you. Adam Jonathan, I'm sorry, sir, you let

518
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: me know what happens. Eight zero looking at tom diagnosis

519
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: my phone. It's been done before. Where are we zero?

520
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: I think I got a bigger button problem. Zero mandating

521
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this if

522
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: I can find the button. Second. Hey, it's all right,

523
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: and let's get going. Let's score to Mica and see

524
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: what's going on. A return caller from Maine. Mike, have

525
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: been a long time brother. How are you in a while?

526
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: Doing great? We've got gorgeous weather up here in Maine.

527
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: It's warm. In fact, I've turned on the air conditioner

528
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: if I wanted to pay for the electricity, as long

529
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: as you have it right, so exactly, So, what's going on? Well,

530
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: I was calling because I wanted to talk to you

531
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: a little bit about after market warranties, something I am

532
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: not a fan of. But my two thousand and fifteen

533
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: SUBREU finally, after seven years, the manufacturer's warranty and the

534
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: extended warrantees with I purchased is run out, and that

535
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: makes sense. Seven years is a long time. Um. So

536
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: I know my dealership. I trust them. They've been really

537
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: good to me. They do sell an aftermarket warranty. But

538
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: I didn't talk to the F and I person because

539
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: they're just going to sell it. But I do know

540
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: the service manager, and I know the service text and

541
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: the service writers, and I talked to them and they said,

542
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: you know, we've dealt with some of them. They are horrible,

543
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: but this these guys that we sell have been great.

544
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 1: We have the number directly to the president if they

545
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: ever turned us down, and they have never ever turned

546
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: us down. And this is a service manager as well

547
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: as the service writers saying they've never ever had a

548
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: problem with it. So I took a chance and I

549
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: invested in a five year warranty. And I just wanted

550
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 1: to say that so far, it's been pretty good. And uh,

551
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: and I'm feeling confident about it. We're Normally I wouldn't,

552
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: but I think that that's kind of a way to

553
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: invest in an aftermarket warranty is to talk to the

554
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: people that are actually using it, talking to the service

555
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: people and not talking to the to the F and

556
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I person. Yeah, absolutely, the salesman's trying to sell it,

557
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: whereas you know, the guys in the shop, they're the

558
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: ones that have to deal with the headache of when

559
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: something gets turned down. They've got to hear the consumer

560
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: and their concerns and their complaints, and they're being upset.

561
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: So I think you're smart. I think you're right on

562
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: the money, absolutely so. And the other thing I wanted

563
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: to tell you about, you know, you've always been talking

564
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: about the fluid film, which I love and they always

565
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: wanted to use but haven't put it together. And New

566
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: Hampshire Oil, which I've also heard great things about. Haven't

567
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: been able to get an appointment to get in there.

568
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: But I found another one that I was recommended by

569
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: the service tech uh, not the not the service writer,

570
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: but the service tech in UH at my super dealership.

571
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: He said he uses it on his car as a

572
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: company called rust Check and uh, they did the whole

573
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: vehicle for only a hundred and sixty five dollars, which

574
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: was unbelievable, lifted it up, sprayed completely underneath, used the

575
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: wands and everything got inside the panels and everything, and

576
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: and apparently it's a patented process. It's a good process.

577
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: And not only that, they have the contracts for the

578
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: City of Portland's salt trucks and they do on all

579
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: this sal trucks in the City of Portlands hasn't had

580
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: any RUSS problems since they started doing it. Um. And

581
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you'd ever heard about them, and

582
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention it to you. Yeah, no, I haven't,

583
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: but I'm glad you did. You know, the RUSS preventative

584
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: stuff is becoming more of an issue. It seems as

585
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: as there, I guess the municipalities and the states are

586
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: trying to deal with the environment and chemicals become more abundant.

587
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why all of a sudden, we're pretty

588
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: more and more chemical on the ground. Uh. The impact

589
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: that it's having on the automobiles has sure been tough.

590
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: The cars are sure taking a beating. So um, but

591
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: good good stuff. Michael Hey listen. Let me run unless

592
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: you got more. But uh, as always, I appreciate the conversation. Sir,

593
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: you'd be well, you'd be safe. Zero zero. Let's pull

594
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: over and take a pause. We'll be back right after this.

595
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: She's real. Find my phone, n she's real, find my phone,

596
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: my phone. Welcome back. Run any of the Car Doctor

597
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: here real quick before I go to the call um.

598
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: I you know, it dawned on me and I wanted

599
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: to mention this for our caller from Iowa with the

600
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: small engine problem. In the lubrication questions about motor oils.

601
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Go visit ams oil. Go to ams oil dot com

602
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: and see what they've got. Amaz oil will rate their

603
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: royals small engine and automobile engine and diesel engine and

604
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: so on. And it just proves my point that companies

605
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: like ams oil have engineered the oil to meet the

606
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: specificity of the application. So you're not using an automobile

607
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: oil in a small engine, which is what I was

608
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: talking about. That's the concern. So do that MS oil

609
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: dot com. Let's get over to Ted and Illinois. Ted,

610
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. Hey, thanks Ron, You've

611
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: got a great show. I listen every week. I love it.

612
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: How can I help. I've got a two thousand eighteen Chevrolet,

613
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and when you put it in park you know it

614
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: it goes in parking and holds the car and everything.

615
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's in neutral. But it shows up on

616
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: the dash and it just keeps thing and that it

617
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: needs to be put in part and then it goes

618
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: on and on. And I'm sure that you ran into

619
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: this before, uh, some another, but it's you know, Chevrolet

620
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: is saying that you got to replace the whole shifter mechanism. Uh,

621
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: And I just wanted your opinions. Well, go take a

622
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: look at bulletin nineteen and a two oh six dated

623
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: June of one. Now, there may be an update to that,

624
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: but I remember two oh six and it talked about

625
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: taking the shifter assembly apart and replacing a micro switch

626
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: inside the shifter assembly. So I didn't know whether or

627
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: not according to that bulletin it is now that's a

628
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: year ago, or it's almost a year ago. I guess

629
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: it's a year ago. Now, Um, a year ago in

630
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: the lifetime of the automobile industry could be ten thousand

631
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: years the way technology is advancing. You know, if that

632
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: switch and you know you read that bulletin, get your

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Speaker 1: hands on that. But if you look down at the

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Speaker 1: parts list, if those parts are still available, then you

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Speaker 1: know that's how General Motors is recommending it be done.

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Speaker 1: And I would ask the dealership why are you calling

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Speaker 1: for a shifter assembly instead of following the bulletin. Now,

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Speaker 1: they may know something we don't. They may have done

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Speaker 1: the switch assembly, and they may they may come back

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Speaker 1: to you and say, hey, you know what, We've done

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Speaker 1: the switch. But because it's plastic, because it's a micro switch,

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Speaker 1: because of the intricacies of what we're taking apart, it's

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Speaker 1: not easily done in the field. I can respect that,

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Speaker 1: I really can. That to me is just you know,

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Speaker 1: we're they're trying to deal with lousy engineering on GM's part.

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Speaker 1: But if it's hey, we want to we want to

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Speaker 1: sell a shifter because it's easier for whatever reason, you

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Speaker 1: need to know that, all right, And then you need

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Speaker 1: to weigh the cost because you're bearing the brunt of

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Speaker 1: General Motors problem and I don't think that's fair, all right,

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Speaker 1: So you need you know, nine two oh six will

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Speaker 1: arm you to the point that you'll be able to

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Speaker 1: march into the dealership and say, okay, I know this,

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Speaker 1: Now tell me what's going on, and then they'll show you.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I don't know that it's out there,

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Speaker 1: but they'll show you nineteen and a two oh six

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Speaker 1: version A where GM says, disregard the last bullet and

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Speaker 1: change the whole shifter. You don't know it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: gene right, um, So you know, take a look at that.

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Speaker 1: You know, what kind of price did they give you

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Speaker 1: to do the whole shifter assembly? It was like four

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Speaker 1: bucks by the time they got done with I think you, well,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you if it's only if it's only

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Speaker 1: four hundred bucks to replace the shifter, yeah, I I

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Speaker 1: think that's probably justifiable because I was looking at the

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Speaker 1: parts list one time and I thought to myself, that's

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Speaker 1: gotta be a hundred dollars worth a nonsense and getting

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Speaker 1: the shifter out and disassembled on the bench. If you

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Speaker 1: follow the bullets and you go, holy cow, it's so detailed.

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Speaker 1: I would say to myself. I said to myself, I've

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Speaker 1: been putting a shifter. It's probably the easier and more

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Speaker 1: complete way to go. Go back and talk to him.

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Speaker 1: But now you got the info. Until the next time

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Speaker 1: I'm not an any in the car doctor telling all

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Speaker 1: of you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priced. Is Sea,

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Speaker 1: She