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Speaker 7: Episode five hundred and ninety seven of the Anti Comploring Podcast,
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Speaker 7: Kenny Flourian just got off a plane. Any snakes on
Speaker 7: the plane or no?
Speaker 2: No, mother eff and snakes on the plane, Thank goodness.
Speaker 2: But do what you say June one? Why'd you say?
Speaker 2: June one? That bothered me for some reason? June one?
Speaker 7: That is June first, Yeah, kid, that bothered you a
Speaker 7: little bit? I mean, well, sorry with me now, and
Speaker 7: you're less tolerant. I am just doesn't working on X
Speaker 7: it says broadcast is not available. We are live, but yeah,
Speaker 7: that link that you guys want me to retweet on
Speaker 7: X says this broadcast is not available. So when that
Speaker 7: is fixed, I'll push that out anyway. Hope everybody enjoyed
Speaker 7: the respite. If you had a little bit of time off, fantastic.
Speaker 7: Where were you you were just on a plane?
Speaker 2: Where were you? Exactly?
Speaker 4: I was?
Speaker 2: I was in Iowa. Kid, he forgot Iowa.
Speaker 7: Second, you forgot for a second or then you were thinking,
Speaker 7: maybe do I not disclose my location?
Speaker 2: What were you doing? I des Moine? What were you
Speaker 2: doing in Des Moines? Doing a little shooting? A little
Speaker 2: shooting with the boys?
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, I went to like a little shooting summit. Got
Speaker 6: to train with some of the best shooters in the world,
Speaker 6: which was fun, and got to uh get nice and
Speaker 6: sore and learn some shi in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 1: This guy, man, what's the end game with this shooting?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's it's become a little bit you know,
Speaker 6: when I get into something, I get a little obsessed
Speaker 6: with it. But you know, I think it's it's fun
Speaker 6: to know and I kind of like taking it as
Speaker 6: far as I can as I can, you know, while
Speaker 6: like and uh yeah, man, just trying to get better,
Speaker 6: you know, maybe maybe teach it one day, you know,
Speaker 6: but uh yeah, it's been fun dude.
Speaker 1: How much Brazilian jiu jitsu are you doing these days?
Speaker 4: Kid?
Speaker 2: You know what's funny?
Speaker 6: Last week I actually did jiu jitsu for the first
Speaker 6: time in like two years, and my back was great,
Speaker 6: so shout out to CPI. I couldn't believe it. That's
Speaker 6: the first time I think my back hasn't been sore
Speaker 6: after doing grappling in like maybe fifteen years.
Speaker 2: So it's uh oh, it's good. So far, so good.
Speaker 2: I'm still testing it out.
Speaker 6: It's in the testing phase, but uh yeah, man, hopefully
Speaker 6: I can get back to.
Speaker 2: Doing some jiu jitsu as well.
Speaker 7: Amazing well, shout out yes to CPI, Stem Cells, Scotty
Speaker 7: and the boys and everybody else, and uh yeah, just
Speaker 7: be careful out there with that, gentle are Brazilian jujituard
Speaker 7: A lot of things coming up today. Raymond Pete is
Speaker 7: coming up in twenty five minutes, so we were wishing
Speaker 7: ray a happy birthday in our group text and I
Speaker 7: sent like an audio birthday message, and I called him
Speaker 7: Raymond Pete and that's his new nickname. His name is
Speaker 7: Raymond Peter Longo. But Ken Flow heretofore he's fucking Raymond Pete.
Speaker 2: Dude, Raymond Pete, Raymond Pete. I like that. I like
Speaker 2: that adjustment.
Speaker 7: Raymond fucking Pete coming up bottom of the hour. And
Speaker 7: he does have thrown sport coffee. By the way, Gus
Speaker 7: the Gorilla is holding my uh my thrown sport coffee.
Speaker 7: If you want to go wide, I'm about to take
Speaker 7: it out of his paw. But Ray Longo joins us
Speaker 7: at twelve thirty. R J Clifford rated, RJ. There it
Speaker 7: is there, it is. Look gonna see Shaw caravel with
Speaker 7: Gus the Garrilla. Thank you, Gus. Ah you like that
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Speaker 2: Oh. We got r J.
Speaker 7: Clifford coming up in about ten minutes. Hmmm, a lot
Speaker 7: of fight announcements. We got UFC Fight Night Song you
Speaker 7: Dong Versus Davis and Figuretto to recap some momentum for
Speaker 7: Real American Freestyle Wrestling as well, and UFC Free Freedom
Speaker 7: two fifty is uh is less than two weeks away,
Speaker 7: so let's not ury the lead.
Speaker 1: Let us get to headlines. Let's go to headlines.
Speaker 2: It's time for headlines.
Speaker 5: I have some very urgent and important breaking.
Speaker 3: New headlines on Kenny Surians contest.
Speaker 2: All right, Kenny.
Speaker 7: It is Monday, June first, and that means that the
Speaker 7: White House card UFC Freedom two fifty is thirteen days away.
Speaker 7: I have my first sort of meeting call today five
Speaker 7: pm Eastern time. Craig Bor sorry calling us all together,
Speaker 7: so it's here and uh at the end of the day. Oh,
Speaker 7: I don't like that trite phraseology. But it's about the fights, right,
Speaker 7: And Joe Rogan was talking about some of the variables
Speaker 7: with fighting outdoors.
Speaker 2: We have talked about that a little.
Speaker 7: Bit and whether or not maybe George Saint Pierre and
Speaker 7: his prime would have willingly defended his title, not knowing
Speaker 7: what the temperature or the humidity might be.
Speaker 1: But there's gonna be a.
Speaker 7: Lot of pageantry and a lot of bells and whistles
Speaker 7: and press conference at the Lincoln Memorial and everything else.
Speaker 7: But this is a huge legacy fight for Ilio Toporia.
Speaker 7: If he is who everybody thinks he is, you and
Speaker 7: everybody else, you know, it's a fight that he's got
Speaker 7: to win and defend his lightweight championship, and I just
Speaker 7: can't wait for I think I can't wait for the
Speaker 7: hype and the pageantry, but also that to give way
Speaker 7: to what we're actually there for, which is the fight.
Speaker 6: You know, from time to time when I'm traveling around,
Speaker 6: people come up to me and you know, they want
Speaker 6: to talk fights or you know, talk about whatever. I
Speaker 6: think this has been one of the fights that people
Speaker 6: have been most interested in. A lot of people asking
Speaker 6: questions about this White House card. And you know, if
Speaker 6: I could have ever imagined that when I started, that
Speaker 6: they'd have a fight, you know, at the White House
Speaker 6: one day, you know. So it's really cool to see
Speaker 6: how how farther sport has come and where we're at.
Speaker 6: This is going to be a massive card. I think
Speaker 6: for Ilio Tolporia, I think he is the best mixed
Speaker 6: martial artist that I've ever seen. I think he is
Speaker 6: incredibly skilled. I think also he's going to be feeling
Speaker 6: some pressure. He seems to be a pretty cool, cool cucumber,
Speaker 6: though he's going to get a guy who's extremely dangerous
Speaker 6: in Justin Gaechee. I think gae Chee definitely has a
Speaker 6: massive mountain to climb. But you know, I think it's
Speaker 6: going to come down to how defensively sound he is
Speaker 6: heading into this fight.
Speaker 7: I was doing some media earlier today in Poland, and
Speaker 7: they asked me, is this a global cultural event? Is
Speaker 7: this a sporting event? Is this a political event? What
Speaker 7: is this exactly? And it's certainly a sporting event, and
Speaker 7: at least in the United States, and I'll get to
Speaker 7: the other parts of that as well, but in the
Speaker 7: United States, Kenny, super Bowls happen annually and are just
Speaker 7: absolutely massive, and certainly in NFL households like mine was
Speaker 7: as a d and is now every year annually. That
Speaker 7: is gonna be massive. You have seen numbered events are
Speaker 7: always going to be massive, right. The Sphere event was
Speaker 7: the broadcasting experience of a lifetime. But this sporting event
Speaker 7: on the White House lawn, now that we see it
Speaker 7: coming together in less than two weeks out, it feels
Speaker 7: like an annual super Bowl is a weird comp but
Speaker 7: next to a super Bowl, this feels like this is
Speaker 7: gonna go down as one of the biggest sporting events
Speaker 7: in United States history. And to have mixed martial arts
Speaker 7: at the forefront is just awesome.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I think it's gonna be extremely hard
Speaker 2: to replicate. I don't think we will see this most
Speaker 2: likely won't see this ever again.
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of factors that kind of
Speaker 6: came together to make this thing happen with this kind
Speaker 6: of timing. Yeah, And I think it's really interesting, man,
Speaker 6: you know, to have this kind of event and to
Speaker 6: see this sport, you know, at the forefront of this
Speaker 6: event is really really cool. And I'm excited for the
Speaker 6: fighters and the opportunity for them. I think there's going
Speaker 6: to be a lot of eyes on them and it's
Speaker 6: up to them to go out there and deliver. And
Speaker 6: I think we're going to see some awesome fights.
Speaker 7: It's just a massive undertaking and huge credit to the
Speaker 7: UFC's entire group of executives and live event production team
Speaker 7: and everybody else for doing this. Because I do believe
Speaker 7: it's not out of the realm of possibility that there
Speaker 7: will be a future president who would love to have
Speaker 7: like an outdoor NBA game on the south lawn of
Speaker 7: the White House, right, But the security undertaking, the executing
Speaker 7: of the live events, right, and a basketball game in
Speaker 7: theory would have a lot of easier parts than fourteen
Speaker 7: fight camps coming in and out, you know, but huge undertaking.
Speaker 7: I can't wait to get to DC and just to
Speaker 7: see all that we are in for. In terms of
Speaker 7: it being a political event, I really don't see it
Speaker 7: as that we're celebrating the United States of America. A
Speaker 7: lot of Medal of honor winners going to be there,
Speaker 7: and a lot of troops military personnel in uniform. And Kenny,
Speaker 7: I think you've probably seen some of the memos and
Speaker 7: things that are going out in terms of ticket recipient
Speaker 7: among the United States military members. Ticket recipients required to
Speaker 7: meet the WHTR standard of less than point five to five,
Speaker 7: which has to do with their physical conditioning. And I
Speaker 7: also found this to be particularly interesting that commands are
Speaker 7: encouraged to identify and nominate personnel from installations and units.
Speaker 7: Oh no, that's outside the NCR, but just talking about
Speaker 7: people who are UFC fans. Focus tickets must be distributed
Speaker 7: to genuine UFC fans, not solely to high ranking DVS attendants.
Speaker 7: Focus should be on junior enlisted and junior officers, but
Speaker 7: finding UFC fans among military personnel that are active to
Speaker 7: come to this live event. I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 7: They not only do you have to be in shape,
Speaker 7: but they're going to get priority to actual UFC fans.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess in that way, right, there is a
Speaker 6: little bit of you know, politics involved in that way,
Speaker 6: but you know, I don't think it's really that different
Speaker 6: from you know, say an NFL game, where you know
Speaker 6: that they'll have jets fly over the stadium and things
Speaker 6: like that. I think, you know, it is going to
Speaker 6: be associated with the military and the US military, which
Speaker 6: of course is the most powerful in the world.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of US military and.
Speaker 6: I had the opportunity to travel all over the world
Speaker 6: visiting them, you know, when I was fighting at the
Speaker 6: UFC and when I was retired. You know, they find
Speaker 6: inspiration with fighters, always have, and I think that that's
Speaker 6: the association there, and I think it's really cool.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 7: I have no idea what is in format or what
Speaker 7: exactly this show is going to entail, but it is
Speaker 7: going to be a television event for the ages, I
Speaker 7: would think, for everybody who loves live sports. So we're
Speaker 7: very excited for that. In terms of getting back to
Speaker 7: the actual matchup. So the Topodia camp has talked about
Speaker 7: sort of thinking about mixed martial arts, maybe in out
Speaker 7: that if your team Geechee, if you're Trevor Whitman, how
Speaker 7: are they preparing to beat Ilia Topoitia and in a
Speaker 7: fighter meeting? And I see that ken flow smirk, Right,
Speaker 7: I really know nothing about fighting. I've just been around
Speaker 7: for a long time, right. But I asked Uri pro
Speaker 7: Hooska before the Carlos Alberg fight, how would you train
Speaker 7: for or try to beat Uri Prohoskin? And we kind
Speaker 7: of moved on and he didn't answer, and I sort
Speaker 7: of stalled for him, and then I kind of like
Speaker 7: installed for Cody on the headlines drop today.
Speaker 2: We still didn't nail that, but I.
Speaker 7: Was stalling for Uri pro Hoska a little bit, and
Speaker 7: I said, how would you go about training for and
Speaker 7: ultimately beating Uri Prohoska? And then I sort of said,
Speaker 7: I know it's a loaded question, and then I said
Speaker 7: you don't have to answer it, and he didn't. But
Speaker 7: I find that to be, among many things, you know,
Speaker 7: key to the way that Topoitia camp, his brother and
Speaker 7: everybody else intellectualized fight.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that for for Geechie, it's not easy.
Speaker 6: How do you approach someone like Ilia Toporia very carefully,
Speaker 6: I think is the answer. I think that it comes
Speaker 6: down to Geechee really managing his aggression with his intelligence.
Speaker 6: I think that's really what it comes down to here.
Speaker 6: So there's certain guys and people are like, well, obviously Kenny,
Speaker 6: well not so obviously. Eliot Tolpori is not a guy
Speaker 6: that you just approach recklessly. And for some people, I've
Speaker 6: been hearing the fact that like, yeah, you know, Geechee
Speaker 6: just needs to go out there and start brawling and
Speaker 6: just see if he can, you know, roll the dice
Speaker 6: and land a big one, and you're like that, I
Speaker 6: don't know if that's really the approach against someone who
Speaker 6: is as highly skilled as Iliot Tolporia. It doesn't quite
Speaker 6: work that work like that, not against him. Why, Because
Speaker 6: he is so defensively sound. He's very good at deflecting
Speaker 6: and blocking punches and then beating you on the inside
Speaker 6: with straighter, crisper punches. So I don't think it's a
Speaker 6: matter of you know, geegee going out there and just
Speaker 6: creating chaos. I think it needs to be very, very calculated,
Speaker 6: and he needs to be very careful with how he
Speaker 6: enters and how he exits. Ilio Toporia is extremely patient
Speaker 6: as well. He is a guy that takes a little bit,
Speaker 6: you know, to figure you out, and then once he does,
Speaker 6: you're in big trouble. And if you try to be
Speaker 6: overly aggressive like Charles Olivera, then you'll be sleeping like
Speaker 6: Charles Olivera or Max Holloway or Alexander Volkonowski. These are
Speaker 6: guys that are highly highly skilled and they had trouble
Speaker 6: with him. So for Geigee, this is not an easy
Speaker 6: fight at all. But we can't forget about Geigie's power
Speaker 6: and his will to win in his legendary chin and.
Speaker 7: It's a mixed martial arts contest. But yeah, Alexander Toporia
Speaker 7: was saying that when Justin Gaigie hits and advances and
Speaker 7: is offensive, he is vulnerable. But shot selection is just
Speaker 7: absolutely critical, and certainly with respect to the betting line,
Speaker 7: you can be sure that that team Toporia is acutely
Speaker 7: aware of the dangers that this fight presents.
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Speaker 9: The fighting, that's that's the fun part. It's like NFL
Speaker 9: from Zoolander, which is so fucking hot right now.
Speaker 5: Dude, Like, well, speak about it.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know who he is.
Speaker 10: I just know he's arrest so you know, googled him.
Speaker 2: Only on the Annik and Florian podcast, No.
Speaker 7: Rest for the Weary, Welcome back to the United States
Speaker 7: of America, Randall. I mean, if I had known that
Speaker 7: you were on the China ticket, might.
Speaker 2: Let you sleep in?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, you want it, don't lie?
Speaker 11: John well, exactly where I was, and you said, no,
Speaker 11: get to work, kidding, And here I am, bright eyed,
Speaker 11: bushy tailed.
Speaker 2: Well two things.
Speaker 7: First of all, can you pull your mic a little
Speaker 7: bit closer to your mouth. Second of all, so you
Speaker 7: are a father, so I assume you're up early.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I have an angel for a wife. So she
Speaker 11: took care of the getting ups and going. This morning,
Speaker 11: I walked her to school. I got to do the
Speaker 11: fun part all right. The hard part she handled all right.
Speaker 7: Well, just so you know, anytime that you want to
Speaker 7: go later in the program, that is always on the table.
Speaker 7: So we were sort of talking a little bit, and
Speaker 7: it's great to see, by the way, about Iliotsoputia and
Speaker 7: just sort of the intellectual, calculated approach. And I don't
Speaker 7: think you heard necessarily what I was saying before you
Speaker 7: came on. But in my last fighter meeting with Uri
Speaker 7: pro Haska, I asked him how he would prepare for
Speaker 7: himself and.
Speaker 1: Toporia and his team.
Speaker 7: We're asking that, you know, what are Trevor Whitman and
Speaker 7: Justin Gatesie, what are they sitting down with at the
Speaker 7: outset of training camp and trying to get done in
Speaker 7: this matchup? So you know, given the betting odds, given
Speaker 7: how many in the fight game who are sharper of
Speaker 7: mind than me think he's so up against it. What
Speaker 7: do you think they're doing to try to spring this upset?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I've been, you know, diving into Iliot
Speaker 9: to pour a little bit more. And just the way
Speaker 9: that guy is never out of position just blows my mind.
Speaker 9: He is just always just the weights distributed evenly, hands
Speaker 9: are always up, eyes are always on his opponent, whether
Speaker 9: he's retreating, countering, wrestling, hurt not or whatever. He's just
Speaker 9: always in this incredible position. And getting him out of
Speaker 9: position I think is the key here. Trying to get
Speaker 9: him find a spot where he's uncomfortable and obviously easier
Speaker 9: said than done. And Getchee has some incredible weapons at
Speaker 9: his disposal, but we've seen Iliotaporter be able to handle
Speaker 9: pretty much every weapon he's seen so far. I mean,
Speaker 9: you know, you look at just like the list of
Speaker 9: Hall of First Bout Hall of Famers, he's knocked out.
Speaker 9: He's the only guy that didn't look completely lost against
Speaker 9: Brian Hall. I mean, just he's just anything thrown at him,
Speaker 9: he's figured out. I'm like, oh, maybe justin Geegee's Lakes
Speaker 9: lake Kicks get into the mix. But then you saw,
Speaker 9: I guess Raphaelfhaze he got taken down a couple of
Speaker 9: times when you through the lake Kicks because he just
Speaker 9: throws him so freaking hard that he's off balance. And
Speaker 9: that's the last place in the world you want to
Speaker 9: be against Iliot's Aporias. So Trevor Whitman and company have
Speaker 9: their work cut out for him, and lord knows, they're
Speaker 9: some of the best in the business at putting something together.
Speaker 9: But yeah, Kenny, why they didn't ask me for game
Speaker 9: plan advice because I don't know.
Speaker 5: I ain't got much.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but listen, if Geechee stands up with Tilporia, he
Speaker 6: could be in trouble. If they go to the ground,
Speaker 6: he also may be in trouble. Now, like, how big
Speaker 6: of how big of a wake, I mean, how big
Speaker 6: of a upset do you think this would be? And
Speaker 6: you know, how much do you think the waight plays
Speaker 6: into this? Because Geechee, I think, is gonna to be
Speaker 6: significantly larger in this. Does that make Does that matter?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think it always.
Speaker 9: I think it always matters to an extent, right, I
Speaker 9: think maybe in the Clinch might.
Speaker 5: Be a good place for Gaechie to try to get
Speaker 5: some done.
Speaker 9: You know, he has this great like kind of colored
Speaker 9: tie hockey fighting style that he can mix in there,
Speaker 9: you know, make it, make it kind of dirty, make
Speaker 9: it kind of rough. And I was listening to you
Speaker 9: guys you know earlier, it's like, hey, just throw the
Speaker 9: whole Kinchen sync on him, you know, make it like
Speaker 9: not X's and O. Just make it a brawl. And
Speaker 9: I think I'm with you. Ken't any think just that
Speaker 9: full mentality is wrong, But I think there's aspects to
Speaker 9: that that makes sense. You just kind of maximize certain
Speaker 9: gray areas, use that weight advantage, use some All American
Speaker 9: wrestling chops to kind of mix things up.
Speaker 5: But it's a yeah, it's an uphill battle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go suicide mission Derek Brunton, Robert Whitaker.
Speaker 5: It's an option.
Speaker 6: Yeah, where would you play the where would you place
Speaker 6: this as far as upsets if Geechee's able to pull
Speaker 6: this one off?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 9: You like how I tried to not answer that question,
Speaker 9: left me off the hook, where as I'll answered you
Speaker 9: you brain you dialog.
Speaker 5: Ju jitsued me so well.
Speaker 9: It so betting wise, it wouldn't be an even you know,
Speaker 9: the top thirty in like the UFC title fights before,
Speaker 9: So I think that's important to realize. But I think
Speaker 9: matchup wise, it's it's a handful for Geechee. I think
Speaker 9: matchup wise, it's it's huge.
Speaker 5: It would it would be.
Speaker 9: It would be one of the greatest game planning execution
Speaker 9: upsets in recent memory.
Speaker 5: Because obviously, Geegee's awesome, like's.
Speaker 9: You know what I mean, Like, there's been worst guys
Speaker 9: getting title shots against really good champions.
Speaker 5: Geechee is is certainly not that.
Speaker 9: He's a well credentialed guy and he's been in there
Speaker 9: with the very very best multiple times and has been
Speaker 9: for his entire career before he was in the UFC,
Speaker 9: was fighting the best guys that you could outside the UFC. Like,
Speaker 9: he's no stranger to big moments, which is why I think,
Speaker 9: you know you here, Dana White say, like, who why'd
Speaker 9: you pick who you did for the White House cards?
Speaker 9: Because you can always count on these guys, and that's
Speaker 9: the truth. Gechie always shows up. So I mean it
Speaker 9: would it would be massive, and it would be it
Speaker 9: would be one of the greatest game plan execution upsets
Speaker 9: that that I could, I could remember in recent I
Speaker 9: have to really think about that.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think Gaichie's live, right, and I'm calling
Speaker 7: the fight, so I can't say much more than that, right,
Speaker 7: But just because our mon Sargian in MMA theory would
Speaker 7: have more ways to beat Iliotsopurtia doesn't mean that he would.
Speaker 7: The reason why we're all captivated by this sport and
Speaker 7: we show up here every Monday and all we want
Speaker 7: to do is talk about it is because it's the
Speaker 7: greatest unpredictable theater in live sport. And justin Gaechee has
Speaker 7: fucking dense bones. He's a tremendous athlete. He could do backflips,
Speaker 7: he just had a hole in one. He has a
Speaker 7: tremendous head coach. He has been hardened for this moment.
Speaker 7: His current form is outstanding back to back wins against
Speaker 7: Rafaelfazeve and Patty pimblet right, So yeah, I mean MMA
Speaker 7: Matthew can throw out in terms of Max Holloway and
Speaker 7: all of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know Randall right.
Speaker 7: Like I, and you're right, it's not some massive betting upset,
Speaker 7: and we didn't even intend to necessarily go down this
Speaker 7: path today. But I think the Toporia camp certainly understands
Speaker 7: that Justin could produce a moment yeah where he to
Speaker 7: outpoint him, you know, forty nine to forty six over five,
Speaker 7: that would be something. But the notion that Geechee can't
Speaker 7: fucking find a knockout button in the first ten minutes,
Speaker 7: y'all are fucking crazy.
Speaker 5: I think I think clinch work. I think maybe against
Speaker 5: the cage wall a little bit could be a good
Speaker 5: place as.
Speaker 9: Long as Geige's in good position, Like if your back
Speaker 9: is against the cageast eliot Ta Poria, you might as
Speaker 9: well check out then, because that's just where he wants
Speaker 9: to put you, and he's just so dangerous there.
Speaker 5: When I close my eyes.
Speaker 9: And think of Justin Gaigee's path to victory, what he's
Speaker 9: done so well is be a wall of orchestrated offense
Speaker 9: that overwhelms you and keeps you guessing. But Illi's just
Speaker 9: just shown so many ways to be able to handle
Speaker 9: that pressure. Slip one two, hunt you down, hooks to
Speaker 9: the body, hooks to the head. I think clinch is
Speaker 9: the way to go.
Speaker 5: Kenny. I think it's push him up.
Speaker 9: Against the cage collar tie gets, maybe cut him with
Speaker 9: an elbow, need of the body, use the weight a
Speaker 9: little bit, you know, I think just pure like scrabbles
Speaker 9: in jiu jitsu. I don't think that's a good place
Speaker 9: for gaiche to be. But if he can make it,
Speaker 9: he can make it tough in a phone booth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think calfkicks from the outside, you know,
Speaker 6: softening him up from the outside. I think Topouria because
Speaker 6: he hits with so much power, you know, the way
Speaker 6: he generates that powers by having that you know, wide base,
Speaker 6: and you know there's trade offs with with the decisions
Speaker 6: that you make during a fight, and I think that
Speaker 6: makes them vulnerable to calfkicks. And of course we know
Speaker 6: how powerful Geiche's calf kicks are, and I think John
Speaker 6: For me, the concern is if Patty Pimblin is able
Speaker 6: to hit Geechee as much as he did in that
Speaker 6: last fight. And Pimblet's primarily known as a grappler primarily,
Speaker 6: and I think he surprised a lot of people with
Speaker 6: his striking. Then that's I think what is making people
Speaker 6: a bit fearful or maybe worried for someone like Justin Geichee.
Speaker 2: Going against Toporia.
Speaker 6: But again, different approach, different approach, right, I think Geechee
Speaker 6: was probably more willing to stand up with someone like
Speaker 6: Pimblet and just take more of those exchanges. Maybe he
Speaker 6: wouldn't be as as much here against Toporia, so obviously
Speaker 6: a different opponent, but it's interesting either way. Man.
Speaker 2: I think for Geichee, it's a great place to be.
Speaker 6: Because everyone's counting him out, and when everyone pounts out,
Speaker 6: justin Gaichee, that's typically where he shows up and surprises people.
Speaker 2: We got a few more minutes here with r.
Speaker 7: J Clifford, So oftentimes, as the host of this show,
Speaker 7: one of the two hosts of this show, I don't
Speaker 7: necessarily know which direction in which we should go at
Speaker 7: a moment like this. Now you just went to China
Speaker 7: and you watch Song You Dong and China, Alonzo Menifield
Speaker 7: and everybody else, so I'm inclined to maybe go in
Speaker 7: that direction. What was your biggest takeaway from China? Can
Speaker 7: the food, the Macau experience, the fighting? How is your
Speaker 7: week overall?
Speaker 9: So I've been to Macau before, you used to have
Speaker 9: been there obviously a few times, and it is a
Speaker 9: unique place because it's not technically part of China like
Speaker 9: it was a Portuguese settlement. They have their own currency,
Speaker 9: and the whole city is basically a zoo, a Portuguese
Speaker 9: old town and nine of the biggest fucking casinos you've
Speaker 9: ever seen in your life. It is wild just walking around.
Speaker 9: But then that's it, Like, that's like you can do
Speaker 9: the whole experience in a while. Unce you just love
Speaker 9: pie go and and chain smoking. So uh, it's always
Speaker 9: an experience. It's always it's always a good time. The
Speaker 9: fights were awesome that Road to UFC, those back to
Speaker 9: back Road to UFC events were great as well. Like
Speaker 9: the tournaments have started off. Good Chinese food there too,
Speaker 9: I've heard, yes, that is true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good Chinese food.
Speaker 5: The best Panda express I ever had. But when the
Speaker 5: UFC changing the Road to UFC.
Speaker 9: Protocol, so now you get like, you know, more money
Speaker 9: based on how many and she as you get in
Speaker 9: the tournament. It's worked with flying colors, like, it's just
Speaker 9: been a great change to the tournament. And then obviously
Speaker 9: Song and you Dong look look great against Viggy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh.
Speaker 7: Kenny Florian when he was in high school, he made
Speaker 7: a Boston Herald All Star Team RJ for Sultur and
Speaker 7: his parents made him go to the photo shoot, right,
Speaker 7: and the picture of Kenny showing up to get his
Speaker 7: photo taken ended up on like eBay, and so I
Speaker 7: bought it, right, and that's the photo and like, sorry
Speaker 7: to interrupt your video game playing or whatever the fuck
Speaker 7: you're doing for the photo Kenny. Like, if I'm the photographer,
Speaker 7: I'm like, look at his fucking kid from Dover, Massachusetts.
Speaker 7: Can we take the spoon out of his fucking mind? However,
Speaker 7: stilver and funny to interrupt your video games?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and that was Ken flow in high school.
Speaker 1: RJ.
Speaker 9: It looks like, uh, it looks like an AI image
Speaker 9: if you're like, hey, make make Kenny Florian a nineteen
Speaker 9: twenties gangster but from nineteen ninety one and making his mugshot.
Speaker 2: I swear they had color photos back then.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: I just turned yeah, and I was born in the
Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but uh, it's not that all Jocket. So RJ,
Speaker 7: you're pre show notes today.
Speaker 2: Sorry we transition.
Speaker 5: Is it silver shirt or Adidas shirt?
Speaker 4: I'm crying.
Speaker 2: Is it Adidas?
Speaker 6: It was a rust colored Adidas equipment sweatshirt.
Speaker 2: Kid.
Speaker 9: Yep, it's like the it's like the tactical turtleneck but loose.
Speaker 5: That was all the rage back then.
Speaker 2: I was trying to at the PACKI at the corner.
Speaker 1: Is there puka shell necklace under that tactical collar.
Speaker 5: His mom's at the.
Speaker 7: Back, like Kenny smiles like mom, No, mom, not fucking smile.
Speaker 7: Rated RJ here on the Antaki Floring podcast weekly. So RJ,
Speaker 7: you'r pre show notes also say, one hundred and thirty
Speaker 7: five pounds is so good right now. And it looks
Speaker 7: as though Umar and magometav and David Martinez or book
Speaker 7: for Abu Dabi right.
Speaker 5: I mean, bro, that's a jump.
Speaker 9: I mean, I love me some David Martinez, but that
Speaker 9: is a talk about a giant step up. And props
Speaker 9: to Demaga Madoff for taking for taking a fight like that.
Speaker 9: But yeah, but with with Yawn this new title reign,
Speaker 9: I imagine.
Speaker 5: They're gonna give him a rob an immediate rematch.
Speaker 9: Guys with that many title defenses always do like it
Speaker 9: would be very I think it's like six in a row,
Speaker 9: a champion with three or more title.
Speaker 5: Defenses got an immediate rematch.
Speaker 9: So it seems like that makes sense, and I think
Speaker 9: he absolutely deserves it, and I think Maybemaka Madoff knows that.
Speaker 9: So he's like, all right, I'll I'll take a key
Speaker 9: busy fight like he's been willing to do that. And
Speaker 9: then now Song You Dong has now entered the chat
Speaker 9: against Big you know, after beating Figgy and yeah, I
Speaker 9: don't know, I don't know Kenny Figgy did. He threw
Speaker 9: nine significant strikes. He landed nine significant strikes in uh
Speaker 9: in about nine many and it's in forty five seconds.
Speaker 5: Man, It's just that that output just gotta go up,
Speaker 5: gotta go up. Kenny, absolutely, and he has some serious power.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's weird. In certain fights he looks inspired,
Speaker 6: he looks passionate, he seems ready to go and just
Speaker 6: on point everywhere. And you gotta wonder, you know, was
Speaker 6: there an injury going on with a bad way, What's
Speaker 6: what's happening? Because to me, he I don't know, just
Speaker 6: didn't see the.
Speaker 2: Same, didn't see the same.
Speaker 7: Put Yeah, all right, Well, before we let our j
Speaker 7: Clifford get back to his day, whether that's a nap
Speaker 7: or getting some of that sunshine out west, whatever that
Speaker 7: may be.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's let him say hello to Ray Long go
Speaker 1: real quick. I think we have the coach here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Raymond, good to see.
Speaker 4: You're killing it with these guys.
Speaker 9: Oh stop it killing it?
Speaker 7: Ray Is like, so I did not buy poll or
Speaker 7: not necessarily comedy tragedy. No, well, I mean, like, you
Speaker 7: love talking about nice guys and you come on here
Speaker 7: and you're shining urge 's boots right away. But then
Speaker 7: if somebody upsets you, what if I Jay said, I
Speaker 7: don't know if Morob doesn't get the rib ed, do
Speaker 7: you come on here guns please?
Speaker 4: Now? I do that? When if I ever done.
Speaker 1: That, I'm just saying you speed, you know.
Speaker 4: R J.
Speaker 1: Well, what is the rest of your morning? Hold buddy?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 9: Well, I have really really fun laptop issues.
Speaker 5: So I got to go to the repair guy in
Speaker 5: a couple of hours, and I got a buddy, Steve
Speaker 5: Cofield's radio show.
Speaker 9: I got a spot with him coming up in the
Speaker 9: decided to do that as well, and then I got
Speaker 9: a whole week of catching up to do.
Speaker 5: There's about I have two very large dogs.
Speaker 9: And my wife doesn't pick up dog poo, and I've
Speaker 9: been gone for a week, so you can imagine what
Speaker 9: my backyard smells like. So it's basically just getting my
Speaker 9: life back together as if I was in a coma
Speaker 9: for a week.
Speaker 7: But as as Ray says, you're absolutely killing it.
Speaker 4: So uh continue, let me let me talk to you
Speaker 4: because my wife picks up all the poop. I don't
Speaker 4: pick up.
Speaker 5: Really, we got to get our wives to hang out
Speaker 5: on No.
Speaker 4: No, you know you know that might you'll fight that
Speaker 4: you'll find out who I really am. I don't want that.
Speaker 9: Rob's getting an immediate rematch right against he certainly thinks
Speaker 9: he is. Yeah, when you have that many tower defenses
Speaker 9: and you lose, you always get an the media rematch,
Speaker 9: right when you're that dominant.
Speaker 7: You guys better hope that pod Yan that showed up
Speaker 7: that last time doesn't show up again. One of the
Speaker 7: greatest individual performances history.
Speaker 4: You know, he's amazing.
Speaker 1: YAJ, have good one.
Speaker 4: R J.
Speaker 7: Clifford with us here on the Anakin Florian the podcast
Speaker 7: is now time for the Ray Longo minute with Raymond
Speaker 7: p Put him in the center.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 7: Look at you, look at this, you look you look
Speaker 7: real objectively Grant. I don't know if you've lost a
Speaker 7: few LB's or if you just ther sun splash or whatever,
Speaker 7: But Kenny am I wrong?
Speaker 2: Does he not look outstanding? He looks fantastic. Did you
Speaker 2: get makeup on before the show?
Speaker 4: I think it's the peptide.
Speaker 2: There it goes.
Speaker 4: See off. First off, John, put your scripted bullshit away.
Speaker 4: I don't even want to hear it. This ship is amazing.
Speaker 4: This is the best cold brew coffe you ever had
Speaker 4: out of a can. One gram is sugar. Love it,
Speaker 4: even though the other one, the Coco with eight grams
Speaker 4: of sugar, which you know whatever, is a little little hype.
Speaker 4: But I tell you, this ship is amazing. I don't
Speaker 4: even go to Starbucks when when you sent me this, well,
Speaker 4: we're really good stuff, really really good stuff. For that,
Speaker 4: I swear by you and I and everybody knows they
Speaker 4: want a cold brew like named after me at Starbucks
Speaker 4: because I'm in there every day with a Trent the
Speaker 4: cold brew. But I was so pleasantly surprised. This ship
Speaker 4: is excellent. Thank you for sending the cases over.
Speaker 7: Oh We're gonna keep it coming. I'm drinking the salt
Speaker 7: caramel dairy free right now. Yeah, eight grams of sugar.
Speaker 4: Well, no, the Sport Court this one has one gram
Speaker 4: of sugar.
Speaker 1: No, I know, right, I drink that black most of
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 7: But this has eight grams of sugar, and we've talked
Speaker 7: about the lattes that have ten grams of protein. But yes,
Speaker 7: this sea salt caramel is probably my favorite flavor. Got
Speaker 7: the vanilla bean on tap as well, But yeah, we
Speaker 7: are men of our word. We sent a bunch of
Speaker 7: cases of front Sport coffee to Longos Jim, one hundred
Speaker 7: and fifty millis of natural caffeine, natural sweeteners, one hundred
Speaker 7: percent of your daily b vitamins. But you don't need
Speaker 7: to hear any of that. You just got long Thos
Speaker 7: endorsement and we're saving you money.
Speaker 2: Raymond.
Speaker 4: Yeah, really, Pete, I can't. I can't. Honestly, I'm not
Speaker 4: even joking. I can't say enough good things about and
Speaker 4: the kids at the gym, the other flavors that maybe
Speaker 4: have a little more sugar, they love them. But you know,
Speaker 4: I stay away from it, but I'm sure it tastes
Speaker 4: fantastic because with no sugar, this stuff is really good.
Speaker 4: The best cold brew, Yeah, I've had in a water.
Speaker 4: This is really good, good stuff, man, really good stuff.
Speaker 4: Congrats to thrown on that. You know, because years ago,
Speaker 4: when I remember I used to go to like the
Speaker 4: Arnold Classic and they were trying all the different core fees.
Speaker 4: They just couldn't do it. They didn't taste good. They
Speaker 4: were putting vitamins in. But I guess over the years
Speaker 4: they developed this process where you know, I would never
Speaker 4: even think of doing this, but when you sent the cases,
Speaker 4: I go, really really was surprised. When I opened up
Speaker 4: that cold Brew.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna want you doing Instagram stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: in a face of throwing sport.
Speaker 4: Coffee, I'm a cold brew addic baby.
Speaker 1: They got the right guy. No, they do have the
Speaker 1: right guy.
Speaker 7: I mean, the whole spot is just within all of
Speaker 7: your commentary right there. Look at you fucking chugging that
Speaker 7: can right.
Speaker 2: Love it amazing?
Speaker 1: All right, So a lot of different directions in which
Speaker 1: we could go.
Speaker 7: We do have some would you rathers for you on
Speaker 7: the back end today, if that's okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I was sort of saying to Kenny, as amazing
Speaker 7: as this UFC Freedom two point fifty event is going
Speaker 7: to be in terms terms of the pageantry in it
Speaker 7: being a spectacle, there are major major fights happening, and
Speaker 7: we talked a lot about Toporia and Gaichee and Seattle
Speaker 7: Gon versus Alex Paeda, really in any division, is probably
Speaker 7: as good a fight as the UFC can put on,
Speaker 7: And we're going to ask you to pick a winner
Speaker 7: in that fight, probably next week, but thirteen days out.
Speaker 7: A lot being made of the weather potentially and the conditions.
Speaker 7: What is your level of enthusiasm for everything that is
Speaker 7: shaping up on June fourteenth?
Speaker 4: My man, Oh, I'm excited for those fights. They got
Speaker 4: some really good fights on in. They got some other
Speaker 4: fights that maybe are more like a novelty. But still
Speaker 4: excited to see everybody fight. You know, I don't know
Speaker 4: how it's going to how the production is going to be.
Speaker 4: I know I'm hearing the same thing with the weather,
Speaker 4: but I don't know. They've had outside fights before. I
Speaker 4: think one of the first boxing matches I ever saw
Speaker 4: my own man was Roberto Duran against Esteban DeJesus. They
Speaker 4: were in panic or somewhere, was like ninety eight degrees out,
Speaker 4: but those motherfuckers were tough and they made it through it.
Speaker 4: And I think these guys are tough and a couple
Speaker 4: of gnats here and there, I don't I don't see
Speaker 4: it as a problem. Let's let's fucking man up and
Speaker 4: put on a show for the two hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: Years of Freedom.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember Caesar's Palace too. Used to put them
Speaker 6: on back in the day, Right, they're outside. Well, it
Speaker 6: seems like the UFC and I know they they talked
Speaker 6: a little bit about this.
Speaker 2: How you know, they kind of chose or they tried
Speaker 2: to choose guys.
Speaker 6: That are kind of going to be more capable of
Speaker 6: handling an event like this fighting outside.
Speaker 2: Do you not not freaking out about it? Do you
Speaker 2: think they did a pretty good job of that?
Speaker 4: Uh? I don't know. I'm sure they did, but I
Speaker 4: don't know what like specifically anything on.
Speaker 6: That or Yeah, Well they were saying, you know, we
Speaker 6: tried to pick guys that basically we're going to be
Speaker 6: able to deal with, let's say, fighting outside. Guys that
Speaker 6: are you know, not going to be you know, comple
Speaker 6: about that, right.
Speaker 4: I did not, I and I can't. I mean, they
Speaker 4: got really good guys. I don't think it was well, I.
Speaker 7: Mean, to Portius calculated to such an extent that you know,
Speaker 7: this is something that he gave some thought before he
Speaker 7: signed on the dotted line. I said off the top
Speaker 7: of the show that I don't think George Saint Pierre
Speaker 7: in the prime of his career amidst several title defenses,
Speaker 7: would have prioritized the White House. I think maybe he
Speaker 7: would have fought at UFC three thirty one or whatever
Speaker 7: if given the opportunity, right just because of that variable
Speaker 7: as something that he wouldn't want to inject into the equation.
Speaker 7: You know, when you say novelty fight Ray, what what
Speaker 7: is the novelty fight on this card that you're.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying, like, uh, even like a Roofie
Speaker 4: against Chandler, I mean, what are the odds on that fight?
Speaker 4: When I say novelty, I mean the odds are going
Speaker 4: to be so far in one direction, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I understand. Maybe I used the wrong word.
Speaker 2: No, I understand, you know, like you yeah, with.
Speaker 4: Gigi and Tapuria, like I don't know who's gonna win,
Speaker 4: but you know, you know, Gaichi can always get anybody
Speaker 4: out of there at any point in time. So it's intriguing,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And he's you know, we
Speaker 4: had a good couple of last fights, and you know
Speaker 4: that should be good. And same thing with Pereira against God.
Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, they're trying to say, like, God,
Speaker 4: I mean, Pereira is not looking good, but when he
Speaker 4: was fighting that guy that was like six seven or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: The point is that he goes in there and he'll
Speaker 4: take a punch to give a punch, and he looks
Speaker 4: like he's still able to do that, and I think
Speaker 4: that's where it's scary. How do you get him out
Speaker 4: of there? His sparring looks looks good to me.
Speaker 6: So and I think the sneak sneakiest best fight on
Speaker 6: that card is Diego Lopez against Steve Garcia.
Speaker 2: I think that's absolute bangs.
Speaker 4: That's a really uh that's a great fight. I agree
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think that one's ending inside of of
Speaker 7: fifteen minutes. Kenny, do you know right now, settle Gan Alexpededa,
Speaker 7: who you're gonna pick next week? We're actually doing the
Speaker 7: show Sunday, June seventh, so we'll be back with you
Speaker 7: in six days. Do you know right now who you're
Speaker 7: picking on that fight?
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this fight a lot, and so yes.
Speaker 7: Okay, you So that fight is essentially a pick him
Speaker 7: right now. Ray the Michael Chandler Mauricio Hoofy fight and
Speaker 7: the Iliotsoportia just Gatechee fight have very similar odds, right,
Speaker 7: So how give Geichie a better chance to beat to Portia,
Speaker 7: then you give Chandler to beat Hoofy.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Kenny, And the reason being is that and
Speaker 4: I love Chandler, but if Chandler would fight to which
Speaker 4: Chandler Ken fight, it would be a different thing. But
Speaker 4: you know he's going to go in there to entertain
Speaker 4: and against this guy. I just I think it's a
Speaker 4: recipe for disaster. But if he if he fought a
Speaker 4: really smart fight, you know, you already saw. You know,
Speaker 4: Rufie's got a couple of week spots. But you know,
Speaker 4: can Ken Chandler exploited. I think at one point he
Speaker 4: probably could have. But he's a fucking Manhattan You can't.
Speaker 4: You can't harness him. Man, He's just he loves entertaining.
Speaker 4: He enjoys it. And you know, I you know, I'm
Speaker 4: sure he's done really well for him so financially, which
Speaker 4: is beautiful, but uh, I'd like him to see just
Speaker 4: see a little more technical aspect of his game with
Speaker 4: the wrestling and everything.
Speaker 7: Kenny, someone gives you one thousand dollars, you're betting on
Speaker 7: either Michael Chandler against Mauricio Hoofi or Justin Gage against
Speaker 7: the Ilo Topodia.
Speaker 2: Which way you going I would go Chandler, Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: hoofy Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: I figured it as much very interesting, So stielle Gan,
Speaker 7: Alexpenade obviously, Diego Lopez against Steve Garcia, Shan O'Malley against
Speaker 7: amons A Hobby, And I'm so curious what can Flow's
Speaker 7: former training partner, amons A Hobby is going to have
Speaker 7: for Shan O'Malley, because you know, fifteen minutes can get
Speaker 7: get away from you pretty quickly, you know, these fights
Speaker 7: sometimes between Yeah, I'll leave it at that. I want
Speaker 7: to get your as his thoughts on sort of that fight,
Speaker 7: and Amin has to be just I think, very critical
Speaker 7: and very urgent Kenny to get this done.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 6: I do think that Zahabi has matured so much over
Speaker 6: the years and has proven his toughness, and I think
Speaker 6: for a lot of fighters it's kind of like you
Speaker 6: want to prove it to yourself or know what that's
Speaker 6: like during a fight, and we have seen Zahabby come
Speaker 6: back from being punished in fights to come back and
Speaker 6: get wins, and so I think he's fighting O'Malley at
Speaker 6: the right time in his career. But O'Malley, of course,
Speaker 6: is extremely dangerous, and I think for Zahaby to go
Speaker 6: out there and get the win, I think he's got
Speaker 6: the skills to do it. I think he's a guy
Speaker 6: that can get grimy, that can make the fight a
Speaker 6: little bit more chaotic, and instead of making it a
Speaker 6: well paced, technical fight like O'Malley likes to have, you know,
Speaker 6: with plenty of room to breathe and to set things up,
Speaker 6: Zahabi needs to take that space away, get right in
Speaker 6: his face and make it an absolute miserable time for O'Malley.
Speaker 6: If he's able to do that, I think he can,
Speaker 6: he can get the win. I think also Zahabi is
Speaker 6: very underrated when it comes to his grappling game. He's
Speaker 6: very good on the ground, and you know, if he
Speaker 6: can keep O'Malley on his back, I think that's another
Speaker 6: path to victory as well. So I don't think it's
Speaker 6: so clear for O'Malley necessarily, but yes, O'Malley is one
Speaker 6: of the best strikers at distance in the UFC period.
Speaker 1: I think your guy Farross needs to get this done. Kenny.
Speaker 1: I mean Fos needs to this is uh.
Speaker 7: I just think that this is a real pressurized situation, right,
Speaker 7: It all comes down to this. I mean, it's got
Speaker 7: to feel like he's got his younger brother in a
Speaker 7: title fight with everything that these two men have put
Speaker 7: into this sport.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: And I'm saying this because you know my relationship with Faross,
Speaker 7: but it's like, for Ross, let's go, man, like you
Speaker 7: anything intangibly that a coach can do on this night.
Speaker 7: In respect to Tim Welch, I think is outstanding on
Speaker 7: the other side, but like Frosc gotta fucking do everything.
Speaker 7: You got to get it done. For us, man, you
Speaker 7: got to get this one man, John.
Speaker 6: And you know, and I've been there, maybe not from
Speaker 6: the very beginning, but I've been there early on before
Speaker 6: Amon was in the UFC H and for Us has
Speaker 6: really molded his younger brother into the fighter that he
Speaker 6: is and has been preparing him for this very moment.
Speaker 6: And you know, for Us is one of the smartest
Speaker 6: guys out there, has a ton of experience.
Speaker 2: To rely on.
Speaker 6: And you know, if there's someone who knows a strategy
Speaker 6: and a path to victory, it's for us a hobby
Speaker 6: and you know, I know they're going to do their
Speaker 6: due diligence and do their best to go out there
Speaker 6: and get the win by any means necessary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree with Kenny. And I'll tell you
Speaker 4: this is you know, Kenny said it like he was
Speaker 4: there at the beginning. That's I It had to be
Speaker 4: fifteen years ago. We were at a UFC and they
Speaker 4: were talking about this kid, Kenny. Right, I'm saying fifteen
Speaker 4: at this point. Maybe two, thy eleven, twelve, thirteen, I
Speaker 4: don't know whatever whatever that comes out there, but I
Speaker 4: heard about this kid years ago and then he kind
Speaker 4: of I think he disappeared for whatever reason, helping out
Speaker 4: other people or whatever it was. Now he's come back.
Speaker 4: So it's happy to see. Was always a very nice
Speaker 4: kid for us, is a good guy. I think they
Speaker 4: could gain plan a win on this. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I'm agreeing with you, John. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: they got the tools to get it done. There's not
Speaker 4: I don't know who did the O'Malley fight, Like for
Speaker 4: what song You're done list right? I mean that fight
Speaker 4: came down to the third round, man, and O'Malley pats
Speaker 4: off to him, and he did pull it together and
Speaker 4: win that fight. But that this is not a what's
Speaker 4: the odds on that fight? They should be pretty.
Speaker 1: Close, O'Malley and is a hobby.
Speaker 7: I believe Amon is probably around plus two fifty or
Speaker 7: plus two eighty.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. We'll have Cody Chase.
Speaker 4: That that's a sugar minus three ninety five. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a hobby plus three ten, even more pronounced
Speaker 1: than I thought.
Speaker 4: You know. Look, I think a couple of Amen's wins
Speaker 4: in the you know, the last maybe five or six
Speaker 4: fights maybe could have went the other way. There wasn't
Speaker 4: seeing something. Maybe that's it. I think the Aldo fight
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of right, was that it the fight?
Speaker 2: It was close, It was close. I had winning, but
Speaker 2: yeah I was close.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And again that that's.
Speaker 6: Really where I felt, you know, showed how much hard
Speaker 6: he has in that fight against Aldo, you know, because
Speaker 6: Aldo was on his way to try try, you know,
Speaker 6: close to finishing it perhaps, and Amen came right back
Speaker 6: and got the Winmen.
Speaker 2: It was unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Kenny's dead on. He's got to make
Speaker 4: it dirty, and I think he's got to rely on
Speaker 4: the grappling for sure, I mean, I think if he
Speaker 4: could mix that up in a loft set the striking
Speaker 4: enough to where I think that well, Look, I for
Speaker 4: Roz is a is a good game planner, and he
Speaker 4: knows how to win rounds, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: May not being there to entertain everybody, but he does,
Speaker 4: I think structure his people around winning rounds, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. And from the little experience I've had
Speaker 4: with him, I think that's the key to his the
Speaker 4: key to victor. I think he's good at it, and
Speaker 4: I think it'll be a very technical fight, or try
Speaker 4: to be a very technical fight in that area.
Speaker 7: See Itle Gone versus Alex Padata for the interim UFC
Speaker 7: Heavyweight Championship. I said earlier it's as big a fight,
Speaker 7: I think, and as good a fight as we can
Speaker 7: put on in any division.
Speaker 1: But Alex Padata is somewhat of an.
Speaker 7: Unknown as a heavyweight in mixed martial arts. I guess
Speaker 7: I shouldn't say somewhat of an unknown, He's a complete unknown.
Speaker 7: The betting line would suggest that it's a fifty to
Speaker 7: fifty fight, and I would say ray that anyone who
Speaker 7: feels particularly convicted would have to really lay out a case,
Speaker 7: because I think you can lay out a case for
Speaker 7: probably both guys winning. From a betting perspective, you know,
Speaker 7: maybe someoneould be inclined to lean towards the guy who
Speaker 7: has a track record in the weight class, which is
Speaker 7: Seedle Gone. But I'd imagine a lot of the public
Speaker 7: is salivating overseeing a Lex Panata close to even money.
Speaker 7: So what are your thoughts on that fight, Raymond? As
Speaker 7: we sit here thirteen days out.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm leaning to look, first of if I like Pereira,
Speaker 4: you know, so I'm leaning towards him. Dude, at the
Speaker 4: fact that this guy four at eighty five, I mean
Speaker 4: he's huge. He's standing head to head with this guy
Speaker 4: who Gone is big, you know, so he definitely first
Speaker 4: of if he definitely has heavyweight power, it's not going
Speaker 4: to be like, you know, he's moving up, does he
Speaker 4: lose the power? I don't know. I just see I
Speaker 4: see Pereira winning this fight, you know, unless Gon could
Speaker 4: really dance around him and keep him off. But you know,
Speaker 4: if Gon was like a heavy wrestler, that would be
Speaker 4: maybe a problem. But it looks like it's going to
Speaker 4: be a kickboxing fight, and I'm going to favor I
Speaker 4: think Alex has way more flight time in that arena,
Speaker 4: and I think I'm leaning towards him.
Speaker 7: Ken full a lot of big fight experience on both sides.
Speaker 7: I'm not asking you to make a pick, but dude,
Speaker 7: like I'm getting nervous to call it just about it
Speaker 7: here two weeks out, So.
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I think that for Khalil Rowntree, you know,
Speaker 6: he was able to win a couple of rounds against
Speaker 6: Perera and sometimes Pereira, you know, starts off a little
Speaker 6: bit slow. Now, of course he seems like he was
Speaker 6: a little injured or sick heading into that fight, But
Speaker 6: when Pereira's on, he's an absolute maniac.
Speaker 2: He will stalk you. He will, you know, kind.
Speaker 6: Of bully you make the cage very small, get on
Speaker 6: the inside and put you out.
Speaker 2: Can he bully around a guy like Gon? We're gonna
Speaker 2: find out.
Speaker 6: I think the good thing for Gone is that, yeah,
Speaker 6: he does have that experience John, But more than anything.
Speaker 2: Else, he's got really good footwork for a heavyweight. He
Speaker 2: moves really well.
Speaker 6: He's extremely agile, and he I don't think he's going
Speaker 6: to be on the short end of the stick when
Speaker 6: it comes to speed either. He's very fast at heavyweight
Speaker 6: as well, and and Pereira extremely dangerous. But I think
Speaker 6: speed and footwork is critical to trying to beat someone
Speaker 6: like Perera and of course size right, Pereira just knows
Speaker 6: how to bully guys. I'm not sure if he's gonna
Speaker 6: be able to have that same approach at heavyweight. We're
Speaker 6: gonna find out. I think Gon's jab needs to be
Speaker 6: on point for this. And I also the thing that
Speaker 6: concerns me for Gone on the Gone side is decision making.
Speaker 6: He's made some really silly decisions sometimes during fights. I
Speaker 6: think he's got to be on point with that. Hopefully
Speaker 6: hit his experience.
Speaker 2: Since those times it's improved.
Speaker 6: And then for me Pereira's defense it could be a
Speaker 6: concern here as well, because sometimes he feels like he
Speaker 6: can just bully people, take shots and land his shot
Speaker 6: to knock you out.
Speaker 2: So fascinating fight.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 6: Like I said, I've been thinking about this one a lot.
Speaker 6: I keep kind of been going back and forth on it.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's a good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean he judge Ray. I mean he does
Speaker 4: carry his hands a little, but I just think he's
Speaker 4: so used to that. I don't know, man, it's You're right.
Speaker 4: The footwork. Can he keep that up for five rounds?
Speaker 4: This guy's pretty good at cutting off the ring. You know,
Speaker 4: he's suffocats you. He's got a great style for that.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I'm psyched for that. That's a
Speaker 4: really you know. I just like again, I'm leaning towards
Speaker 4: the guy that I kind of like. I love the
Speaker 4: way he came into the UFC and all. He's accomplished,
Speaker 4: and he fights often, he goes for and he's a
Speaker 4: company guy and hats off to him. So I think
Speaker 4: I'm kind of pulling for him for that reason. Plus,
Speaker 4: I tell you, I think Kenny's right. I think Gon's
Speaker 4: definitely going to have a speed advantage, But power wise,
Speaker 4: I don't know. Man, this guy has bricks in his hands. Man,
Speaker 4: he's moving it. I don't know. I think he gets
Speaker 4: it done.
Speaker 7: Cody was just asking the private chat if I know
Speaker 7: the octagon size. Can you imagine if they had the
Speaker 7: little twenty five footer out there, I would assume it's
Speaker 7: the big guy, the thirty footer, especially because we're outside,
Speaker 7: even if space is a little short.
Speaker 4: Wait, is that the difference? Is it thirty to twenty
Speaker 4: five with those sizes.
Speaker 7: Is that it, yes, and I believe the percentage is
Speaker 7: like thirty one percent more real estate or something like that.
Speaker 4: That's difference.
Speaker 7: We can get that for you. The internet would be
Speaker 7: a useful tool for that. So Ray, right now, before
Speaker 7: we get to would you rather, I have two other
Speaker 7: mixed martial arts news items. We also could talk about
Speaker 7: the China fight card. Serge Padlov's going to be a
Speaker 7: problem for all these heavyweights.
Speaker 4: By the way, it was that's good fun to see
Speaker 4: him back. He seems like just a big, happy, go lucky. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was good though, very I was happy to see that, and.
Speaker 1: That was cool to see KaiOS A Kora.
Speaker 7: I don't know if you saw the video, but when
Speaker 7: he got word that he was getting the bonus, he
Speaker 7: said that one hundred thousand dollars is going to his coaches,
Speaker 7: and then you saw them all light up. So it
Speaker 7: was nice to wow that gesture from chios Acora.
Speaker 4: Get and I get that guy in the gym.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with Japanese fighters in the past, so man, I.
Speaker 4: Never heard that before. That's awesome.
Speaker 7: All right, So Ray, there are two other items I have.
Speaker 7: You can choose which one we talk about, or we
Speaker 7: can talk about both what why the reaction like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, just looking at this fun up?
Speaker 2: What's that from? Yeah, that's on sited?
Speaker 4: Interesting?
Speaker 2: Checked out?
Speaker 7: Maybe your wife could make a call after she finishes
Speaker 7: picking up the dog poop.
Speaker 2: Get your heads. My brain goes there.
Speaker 4: I wish I was kidding, but I'm not so.
Speaker 7: Maga Caliv Maga Alkalive is back against Khalil Rowntree Junior
Speaker 7: in a main event July twenty fifth in Abu Dhabi,
Speaker 7: which I just think is great because uncl Ive is
Speaker 7: the forgotten man in Roundtree Junior is a fellow warrior.
Speaker 7: And then the other news item, you know, Colby Covington retired,
Speaker 7: and I guess I'm curious what you guys think about
Speaker 7: his MMA legacy, and I'll set it up a little
Speaker 7: bit for you if you wanted to go in that direction.
Speaker 7: But uh, those are two things that I thought were
Speaker 7: particularly interesting.
Speaker 2: You also got.
Speaker 7: Umarn Magametta fighting on that Abu Dhabi card against doctor
Speaker 7: David Martinez.
Speaker 4: Right, that's whatever, But I go with up.
Speaker 1: First of all, where is uh, that's uh, where's what?
Speaker 4: Where? Where'd that fight come from?
Speaker 2: Which fight?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 2: And David Martinez? What's the problem with that fight?
Speaker 4: Who the hell is David Martinez? Only kid? I'm joking.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, but get back to where's Roundtree?
Speaker 2: T David Martinez?
Speaker 7: That's a problem your bracket with Marob Dwallash Willie there
Speaker 7: as you puff out your chest.
Speaker 4: Nobody can beat Morob? Stop it?
Speaker 2: What Pore could beat?
Speaker 4: That was a joke.
Speaker 1: We'll jokes on a team fucking long ago.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Sorry, Uh, what were we talking about?
Speaker 2: What we're gonna ask?
Speaker 4: Is he? What is this podcast that everybody's on?
Speaker 7: What is that You're on this podcast asking me to
Speaker 7: talk about another pol?
Speaker 4: Saying? Where are those guys talking from me?
Speaker 2: I Beach, California. I've been on the show the Jackson.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, did is Roundtree training there?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 4: Did he move there?
Speaker 1: He has spent some time training there, but he's still
Speaker 1: based in Las Vegas?
Speaker 4: Okay, so he is all right? That's all. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just see stuff in them.
Speaker 7: Yeah right, well it actually dovetails with our Would you
Speaker 7: rather you see that on social media?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: You see that on Instagram? Right now?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 1: Where'd you see that of Rowntree Junior on that Oh?
Speaker 4: No, that I saw run no, I saw that on
Speaker 4: one und I guess YouTube, I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 7: All would you rather give up social media or eat
Speaker 7: the same dinner for the rest of your life.
Speaker 4: I'd rather give up social media.
Speaker 7: I can't wait to give up social media. But it
Speaker 7: is a conduit through which some of us make money
Speaker 7: and interact with fans, right, But I think, certainly for us,
Speaker 7: if we weren't public figures may be I don't know,
Speaker 7: I don't know. It's a way to share your family
Speaker 7: with the world as well. I guess Facebook and that stuff.
Speaker 4: But I'd rather eat the same shit every day. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think the social media thing, I think has just
Speaker 4: ruined a lot of people at this point.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, yeah, no, I mean I am.
Speaker 4: I too old for this world. Kenny, You're accurate, right?
Speaker 4: What is going on there?
Speaker 2: Raymond?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your knew nickname, Raymond Pete. Do you like
Speaker 1: your nickname?
Speaker 4: Pe?
Speaker 7: So Colby Covington's legacy real quick. So he was on
Speaker 7: with Ariel Helwani. He considers himself a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure he's going to get that designation. Certainly,
Speaker 7: I would think like a Halfayel Dosanos would be some
Speaker 7: sort of comp there, but halfa Ael Dosanjos won the
Speaker 7: undisputed Lightweight Championship. Right, So, when Colby Covington beat Robbie
Speaker 7: Lawler August third of twenty nineteen, that was one of
Speaker 7: the greatest performances I've ever seen. The mix of offense,
Speaker 7: takedowns and strikes otherworldly At that point in time, though
Speaker 7: he was not in defense of a belt. He had
Speaker 7: been stripped of his interim UFC Welsway Championship due to injury,
Speaker 7: and then he never won the undisputed title, and on
Speaker 7: the way out, competed once in twenty twenty once in
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, once in twenty twenty two, once in
Speaker 7: twenty twenty three, once in twenty twenty four. And I
Speaker 7: don't know, right it is in a straight meritocracy, right,
Speaker 7: Dana White is the entire voting body.
Speaker 1: Ray, And it's not always about the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7: You know, Covington and his third long and his Cardio
Speaker 7: and his MMA wrestling and everything else. Absolutely fantastic for me.
Speaker 7: Maybe falls a little bit short of inclusion in the
Speaker 7: UFC Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I think absolutely great. Korea. You know, the
Speaker 4: stick was a little bit too much to handle at times,
Speaker 4: you know the fact that he threatens you at that
Speaker 4: point that I couldn't care anything about him. But yeah,
Speaker 4: he had a good career. I don't think it's all
Speaker 4: of fame worthy, though definitely successful career. I mean the inactivity,
Speaker 4: the once a year, I think it's going to hurt him,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But you know, you never know.
Speaker 4: That could have been due to other factors too. But
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if he wanted to fight,
Speaker 4: he didn't want to fight, or what the thing was.
Speaker 4: But I think I was surprised he wasn't on that
Speaker 4: card because he's always you know, you have see him
Speaker 4: in the interviews. Oh wait a minute, the President's on
Speaker 4: the phone. Let me take a lot bit my President Trump.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm surprised that didn't get him on the card.
Speaker 7: So I would imagine there was an opportunity to fight
Speaker 7: Bo Nickel on the south lawn of the White House.
Speaker 7: And I think that does Kenny dovetail with a little
Speaker 7: bit of the inactivity over the last several years. That
Speaker 7: does sort of play into his legacy, at least for me.
Speaker 2: Kenflop.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, listen, thirty two wins is really impressive,
Speaker 6: no matter what in this sport, very difficult to do.
Speaker 1: I think what hurts him is three wins.
Speaker 6: Right, Oh my gosh, See, I don't know what I'm looking.
Speaker 2: At coming to that.
Speaker 1: It was seventeen and five as an m M A pro.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, all right, Well I guess we're what professional?
Speaker 2: Well what am I looking at? What the is it?
Speaker 4: Say?
Speaker 2: What are you looking at? I mean, seventeen losses? What
Speaker 2: am I looking? I don't know?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 7: Always looking at I mean, as I go to Kenny
Speaker 7: Florian's Wikipedia page.
Speaker 2: No I'm looking at and I got our da I'm
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot, all right.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think it's tough because of the way,
Speaker 6: you know, he finished his career, you know, and a
Speaker 6: lot of people are going to remember you based off
Speaker 6: of that, and you know, he certainly wasn't so active,
Speaker 6: but you know, didn't didn't finish his career in the
Speaker 6: best way. And I think that that was kind of
Speaker 6: problematic or will be problematic for him. But you know,
Speaker 6: I think he showed a lot of people that toughness,
Speaker 6: uh grit can get you really far in this sport,
Speaker 6: even in the modern era, and He definitely was that,
Speaker 6: you know, I think was able to get a lot
Speaker 6: of wins against guys that maybe people thought he wasn't
Speaker 6: going to be able to beat. So I think anytime
Speaker 6: you were an underdog and getting those wins, I think
Speaker 6: it's a good thing. So yeah, And and of course,
Speaker 6: you know, most of the attention, you know, came for
Speaker 6: Kobe because of what he said, you know, outside of
Speaker 6: the cage, and he learned to kind of be brash
Speaker 6: and cocky and you know, played up his persona a lot.
Speaker 6: And I don't think a whole lot of people like that.
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, he was definitely
Speaker 6: one of the toughest dudes that I saw compete in
Speaker 6: the Welthway division in the UFC for sure.
Speaker 4: Right Yeah.
Speaker 7: Would you rather be smacked in the face with a
Speaker 7: fish or farted upon?
Speaker 4: Smacked in the face with a fish?
Speaker 7: Mean too, I mean you can't take a fish, well
Speaker 7: can spack me across the face.
Speaker 2: But if.
Speaker 4: And when I say fish, I mean like a goldfish.
Speaker 1: O like a tune across you, I have an argument.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying I would go one way or the other, guys,
Speaker 6: but you know, the fish smell is gonna follow you around.
Speaker 2: Smell is just kind of gonna go away.
Speaker 4: I don't know that fish. Smell has followed me around
Speaker 4: my whole life. I gotta get out of here. Note
Speaker 4: all right, guys, we'll go out next week. If it's
Speaker 4: no good, I'll give you your money back. Take it easy, guys.
Speaker 2: Thank you, y.
Speaker 7: I got so many. Would you rathers for him next week?
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Speaker 4: There?
Speaker 7: When I asked him, would you rather give up social
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Speaker 1: He he's on Instagram a lot.
Speaker 2: That's why I asked him. He's on Instagram a lot.
Speaker 2: You got him. I'm just saying, all right.
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Speaker 1: All Right, big things.
Speaker 7: Upon us this weekend as the UFC returns back to
Speaker 7: the friendly confines of the Apex. It is UFC Fight Night,
Speaker 7: Muhammad Versus Bond theme and front center with us this week,
Speaker 7: Dan Thomas back, Ken Flows excited. Kenny's a big Dan
Speaker 7: Tom fan incidentally, so it's great, DT. What is your
Speaker 7: relative level of excitement for this White House Card UFC
Speaker 7: Freedom two fifty as it were thirteen days out. I
Speaker 7: can't wait, man, I really am excited, and not just
Speaker 7: about the fights but everything I think that is going
Speaker 7: to come with fight week and everything else.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Man, I almost feel like interviewing you know you, John
Speaker 12: and throwing it back at you. Thank you for that compliment, kid,
Speaker 12: I never thought it, you know, watching you know, the
Speaker 12: ultimate fighter. You know, you know that you'd be a
Speaker 12: fan of mine when I was a fan of yours.
Speaker 12: So that's that's way too kind. But all serious of this, No, John,
Speaker 12: what's exciting me about this White House card is the media.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 12: I'm talking about whether we're seeing the different types of
Speaker 12: media Dana White's doing or even just like you know,
Speaker 12: we're seeing talk show hosts have like throwaway punchlines that
Speaker 12: are the UFC White House card, and I think that's
Speaker 12: a positive because they're saying it as if it's a
Speaker 12: part of the mainstream lexicon.
Speaker 8: And this is, you know, the mainstream.
Speaker 12: We're not talking about mainstream sports like when we got
Speaker 12: over to Fox and when we got over to ESPN.
Speaker 12: This is like worldwide. We're talking about global you know,
Speaker 12: political media and all the like. So, John, I gotta
Speaker 12: wonder in that sense, is this gonna be your biggest show?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, my therapist was like, are you nervous?
Speaker 7: And I said, I'm all in seven fights instead of fourteen,
Speaker 7: So just starting there, it's fourteen athletes compared to twenty eight.
Speaker 7: So I feel pretty good about that. I'm really haven't
Speaker 7: driven into formatics. I don't even know necessarily what I'm
Speaker 7: walking into, but it's very exciting. I think the sphere
Speaker 7: is probably a good comp in some respects in terms
Speaker 7: of maybe some of the bells and whistles and just
Speaker 7: how involved some of the inner workings of the format
Speaker 7: might be. But yeah, it's just a massive undertaking. And
Speaker 7: as I was saying earlier, right you know, I don't
Speaker 7: know if President Obama back in the day desired to
Speaker 7: do a basketball game on the White House lawn or
Speaker 7: if any president in the future will try to do
Speaker 7: a sporting event, but best of luck, like it's a
Speaker 7: massive undertaking. I just think that, you know, the way
Speaker 7: Dana White is wired, he just loves to do things
Speaker 7: that seem impossible. So we'll see how this is all executed.
Speaker 7: But man, I mean that whatever is above the octagon
Speaker 7: came up pretty damn quickly if you've seen the images
Speaker 7: over the last few days. So very exciting stuff coming up,
Speaker 7: all right. UFC Fight Night Muhammad versus Bond theme. I
Speaker 7: don't know how much you think Dan about octagon size
Speaker 7: when you're doing handicaps, But Cody was asking earlier if
Speaker 7: it's going to be the big octagon at.
Speaker 2: The White House. We assume that it will be.
Speaker 7: We got the small guy this weekend, and perhaps it
Speaker 7: plays into the main event between Bala Muhammad and Gabriel
Speaker 7: Bond theme. First, we have a couple of other main
Speaker 7: card selections. Big fight at lightweight DT and two big guys,
Speaker 7: the six foot one inch foress XEM minus two ninety
Speaker 7: eight versus the six foot two inch Tom Nolan, who
Speaker 7: is the plus two forty underdog smile killer, been killing
Speaker 7: a lot of smiles of late. What do you think
Speaker 7: of him? Three to one this weekend DT really.
Speaker 12: Interesting and of course you know I'm going to come correct.
Speaker 12: I bought some South Paul stats for you guys for
Speaker 12: whatever fights you need on this card, and John mentioned
Speaker 12: the fighting TOURAIND. I think it's gonna be a big
Speaker 12: part of these breakdowns here. So I also got those
Speaker 12: apex slash small cage stats right whenever they've fought in
Speaker 12: a tough cage which is a little more rare, or
Speaker 12: you've got that weird sample size which is here on
Speaker 12: some of these fighters. That Morob versus Peter Yon one
Speaker 12: fight we had here that the Virgin Hotel. Kenny knows
Speaker 12: that's where we used to have the hard rock, the
Speaker 12: old tough shows and as we know, the UFC brings
Speaker 12: in the small cage for those. So I got those stats.
Speaker 12: As far as this fight goes, ZM is two and
Speaker 12: two against UFC level lefties. Of course, Tom, you know
Speaker 12: Nolan is a big SOUTHPAUW big guy for the lightweight division.
Speaker 12: ZIM has lost to you know, South Paul's in the
Speaker 12: grappling sense of Terence McKinnie was an early loss, but
Speaker 12: he's improved his grappling, which I think is gonna be
Speaker 12: a big key because in this smaller apex, it's not
Speaker 12: a hard and fast rule, right, there is really none
Speaker 12: of those in a volatile game at MMA. But I
Speaker 12: don't know about you, Kenny, but I like the more
Speaker 12: superior I give a strong edge, I should say, to
Speaker 12: the more superior grapplers and wrestlers inside of that small cage.
Speaker 12: Nolan is one and one there, two and one if
Speaker 12: he count as Danner White Contender series. ZM is zero
Speaker 12: and one in that cage, that aforementioned loss to Terrence
Speaker 12: McKinney earlier in his career. But again, I do like
Speaker 12: the improvements of Zim. The South Paul thing, I don't
Speaker 12: think it's going to be too big of a deal.
Speaker 12: He keeps his jab, which is something that like MMA
Speaker 12: fighters think they're not allowed to do, which is crazy.
Speaker 12: But he does the thing where you know he prefers
Speaker 12: more to counter like a lot of Orthodox fighters. I
Speaker 12: think it's going to bring him into the clinch. I
Speaker 12: think there's gonna be some grappling in this fight, I
Speaker 12: think is going to be the better grappler, So give
Speaker 12: me zm Here.
Speaker 2: On the other side, can flow.
Speaker 7: Tom Nolan, Big Train out of Brisbane has won Foreign
Speaker 7: a roasamitted Charlie Campbell last September. What do you think
Speaker 7: about Nolan and his chances to bring the upset here
Speaker 7: against Foress Ziam can Flow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think Nolan is a very talented fighter.
Speaker 6: I think his side, just his size alone is a
Speaker 6: problem at.
Speaker 2: Lightweight, just crazy.
Speaker 6: But he's going against another pretty tall, lanky guy, so
Speaker 6: not the crazy height disparity that maybe he's used to.
Speaker 6: And I gotta agree with Dan here in regards to
Speaker 6: the improvements that Zim has made.
Speaker 2: I think he is way more.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 6: I think he's way sharper as a grappler, and as
Speaker 6: a result, I think we see him less hesitant to
Speaker 6: throw his hands, like he's more confident in how to
Speaker 6: deal with someone who may try to take him down.
Speaker 6: And I think everything from his clinch game to his
Speaker 6: ability to kind of read you as a fighter makes
Speaker 6: him a favorite for a reason in this one.
Speaker 2: And I like siamalot here all.
Speaker 7: Right, comain event equates to a big fight of middleweight
Speaker 7: gentlemen Brendan Allen minus two thirty eight Edmund Shabazian plus
Speaker 7: one ninety five. So Alan coming off the main event
Speaker 7: TKO went over Ryan near Derider that was last October
Speaker 7: in Vancouver. Shabazian's won three in a row. This would
Speaker 7: appear to be a definite step up in competition. There
Speaker 7: certainly have been some big time challenges prior for Shabazian
Speaker 7: Fluffy Hernandez, nas Ordini, Mava, but this iteration of Shabazian
Speaker 7: rising to this fight against be a fascinating comain event.
Speaker 7: Dan Tom, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 8: Oh Man, very very excited.
Speaker 12: I just interviewed Edmund Shabazim, So maybe there's that a
Speaker 12: little bit of bias considering that interview is in my backyard.
Speaker 12: Of course, an extreme goodtur but you know, from an
Speaker 12: outsider's perspective, it's really been impressive to watch Edmond mature.
Speaker 8: You know, he had that kind of fieriness that is
Speaker 8: a prerequisite for.
Speaker 12: Fighters, but you would see that that emotion in his fights,
Speaker 12: you know, even maybe out of it, you know, cornering
Speaker 12: real emotional and now whether I see him in the
Speaker 12: gym with Eric Nixic training on the pads or you know,
Speaker 12: working the rounds where I saw him in preparation for
Speaker 12: this fight and in his fights now he's been able
Speaker 12: to maintain a focus. You know that that's really impressive
Speaker 12: and he's gonna need I think focus is the keyword
Speaker 12: because Brandon Allen, although he's much more proven, and he
Speaker 12: also has recently proved he can lock in even on
Speaker 12: short notice, stepping in and scoring that upset against RDR.
Speaker 8: You know, sometimes I love.
Speaker 12: Henry Hoot by the way, but so forgive the impression here,
Speaker 12: but sometimes you even hear Henry hoof get on him like,
Speaker 12: you know, like focus Brundon, you know, like you just
Speaker 12: hear him like listening strong, you know, did you're doing
Speaker 12: this thing in the corner. And and I think that's
Speaker 12: gonna be the key word for both fighters. They're both
Speaker 12: going to have to stay on track here. I think
Speaker 12: Alan is the much deserved favorite. But guys, I mean,
Speaker 12: I'll get more into any kind of commitment to this
Speaker 12: pick because it's I don't know how confident it is.
Speaker 12: Well we'll see on the betting segment here, But sometimes
Speaker 12: you just got to go off vibes, I know, I'm
Speaker 12: spitting out stats at you, guys and whatnot. And by
Speaker 12: the way, Allen six and two in that UFC small cage,
Speaker 12: seven and two if you count Dan, a white contender series,
Speaker 12: Edmund two and four, right, four and four if you
Speaker 12: count you know, the tough cage and his contender series
Speaker 12: not as good of a record.
Speaker 8: But it feels like a trap fight. Guys.
Speaker 12: You know we've seen Alan, He's one fights. Maybe he's
Speaker 12: not supposed to write you look at his last time
Speaker 12: out that we just praised. However, he's not beyond maybe
Speaker 12: dropping some of those fights where maybe he's supposed to
Speaker 12: win as well. And boy, I just get weird vibes
Speaker 12: from this one again. Alan is the deserved favorite here, Guys.
Speaker 12: I'm not arguing that, but I'm going to take a
Speaker 12: flyer on Shabazi in here.
Speaker 2: Any familiarity Dan that you know of.
Speaker 7: Between these two guys, i'd imagine they cross paths and
Speaker 7: training at some point in Vegas.
Speaker 2: Maybe not. I don't know that, I not that I
Speaker 2: know of.
Speaker 12: Probably more I feel like Eric kind of sees everybody
Speaker 12: coming in through that gym, yeah and whatnot. But Brandon
Speaker 12: Allen's actually had a lot of foes from Extreme Gutur
Speaker 12: right as almost was a running gimmick. He had Sean Strickland,
Speaker 12: Chris Curtis. Obviously they had two fights and were jabbing
Speaker 12: back at each other, and I believe there was even
Speaker 12: a third somewhere in there, off off the top of
Speaker 12: my head. But yeah, it was actually running jokes sometimes
Speaker 12: like hey, what does Extreme Guitur got against me? And
Speaker 12: obviously you know, Eric and Brendan were friendly about it,
Speaker 12: but even they acknowledge that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think as far as I know, personal relationship there, Yeah,
Speaker 7: camp Flow, what do you have for us?
Speaker 2: On the comen?
Speaker 6: This is another great fight. I think that Allan has
Speaker 6: the more high level, high level experience. I think that,
Speaker 6: of course, his grappling probably should be leading the way
Speaker 6: when it comes to his strategy and tactics in this one.
Speaker 6: Although Brendan Allen is not a shabby striker at all,
Speaker 6: I think he's not going to be, you know, in
Speaker 6: unfamiliar territory if he's.
Speaker 2: Not able to take down Shabazian.
Speaker 6: I do think he needs to be pretty patient here
Speaker 6: because I think Schabasian is extremely dangerous, especially early on.
Speaker 6: He's got some crazy power. He's very fast, So I
Speaker 6: think Brennan Allen has to fight a really smart fight.
Speaker 6: And you know, to your point, Dan like he needs
Speaker 6: to be focused.
Speaker 2: I think he is.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 6: I think that with his momentum that he has, and
Speaker 6: you know the fact that he isn't too far from
Speaker 6: potential title shot, he knows how important every single fight is,
Speaker 6: and he I'm sure he knows how dangerous Shabazian is.
Speaker 6: While I do see some value on Edmund Schabasi and
Speaker 6: because of his excellent striking and because of that maturity
Speaker 6: that Dan talked about, I'm gonna go with Brendan Allen here.
Speaker 6: I just think overall, I think he's the better fighter
Speaker 6: and the more experienced guy, and you know, when it's
Speaker 6: this close, I'm gonna lean on the more experienced fighter.
Speaker 7: And how many guys ranked number four in the world
Speaker 7: would fight a guy who's unranked and the betting line
Speaker 7: speaks to the danger of the fight. It's not that pronounced.
Speaker 7: Brandon Allen number four at middleweight, Edmund Shabazi in unranked
Speaker 7: going into the comain event all Right main event.
Speaker 1: At Welchway, We'll have Ken Toll lead us off here.
Speaker 7: The Formerroun disputed champion Balaa Mouhamed minus one thirty five,
Speaker 7: the betting favorite against Gabriel bon Theme, who is plus
Speaker 7: one fourteen. Ken Flobla, looking to avoid a third straight loss,
Speaker 7: lost the belt to Jack Dela Mattelana. Then he was
Speaker 7: outpointed by Ian Mashade o'gary and now he draws this
Speaker 7: imposing twenty eight year old multi versed Brazilian contender Gabriel
Speaker 7: bond Theme, and we all remember the early UFC loss
Speaker 7: for him against Nicholas Dalby. Certainly a propellant I think
Speaker 7: for bond Theme, tremendous main event. Ultimately, team Florian, we
Speaker 7: will need a winner, go ahead, you know.
Speaker 6: For Ballall, obviously this is an extremely important fight for him.
Speaker 6: You know, we've never really seen him in this spot
Speaker 6: and some fighters, you know, when you don't have that
Speaker 6: level of momentum and you've gone from being in the
Speaker 6: top of the mountain to this quick decline, it can
Speaker 6: do a number on your confidence.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: Is that going to affect someone like bal Mohammad. I
Speaker 2: don't think so.
Speaker 6: I think Ballaal is still going to be able to
Speaker 6: retain a lot of that confidence. And you know, recall
Speaker 6: a lot of that experience that he has, and also
Speaker 6: you look at him level of competition, it's been insane.
Speaker 6: So I think he needs to go into this one
Speaker 6: confident though, and also needs to have some kind of
Speaker 6: better answer than kind of just switching from striking mode
Speaker 6: into grappling mode. I think we need to see a
Speaker 6: better seamless transition from his striking into his takedown entries.
Speaker 6: I think we need to see a smarter approach there,
Speaker 6: and I think we also need to see him make
Speaker 6: that cage as small as possible here against bom.
Speaker 2: Feme, who I think is an extremely dangerous and creative striker.
Speaker 6: He's a high horsepower kind of guy and very explosive,
Speaker 6: and Mohammed I think does have the ability to be
Speaker 6: able to slow him down, tire him out over the
Speaker 6: course of a fight, and then potentially finish him later
Speaker 6: on when he's exhausted. So I think, you know, we
Speaker 6: need to see Mohammed weaponize that conditioning again lean on that.
Speaker 6: I think his you know, he should have his chin
Speaker 6: ready as a potential insurance because Boonviem can find it
Speaker 6: and put him down. So but I think that Ballal
Speaker 6: needs to be really, really smart in this approach. I
Speaker 6: think this Brazilian fighter is fantastic. I think you know
Speaker 6: he's he's fulfilling a lot of the potential that people
Speaker 6: saw him early on. I think he has matured a
Speaker 6: lot as well. But again, when I see a fight
Speaker 6: that's this close, I am gonna tend to lean towards
Speaker 6: the more experienced fighter, which I think is Bala Mohammed.
Speaker 2: And I think with the pressure on ballall in.
Speaker 6: This type of situation and how important this one is,
Speaker 6: I think we'll see a much better version of him.
Speaker 7: Gotta think it will bring out his best. The issue
Speaker 7: could just be Gabriel Bonfime, who is nineteen and one
Speaker 7: coming off the main event TKO win over Randy Brown
Speaker 7: that was last November. He's never fought twenty five minutes.
Speaker 7: He's only gone the full fifteen minutes twice. He is
Speaker 7: two and zero in those fights. Dan I was doing
Speaker 7: a Q and A without in Abu Dhabi with Balal
Speaker 7: years ago and he was asked when he wasn't the
Speaker 7: champion to name two welter weights to keep an eye
Speaker 7: on in the future. He mentioned Ian Mashadow Gary and
Speaker 7: Gabrielle Bonfme. So bon Theme's been on his radar for
Speaker 7: a while. Whether he admits that during fight week at
Speaker 7: media day, I don't know, but the footage is there.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on what is a very close
Speaker 2: fight at least on paper here?
Speaker 8: Well for with well, that's very interesting and makes it
Speaker 8: even more trickier. You know.
Speaker 12: I try not to take away from fighters and take
Speaker 12: with what they say in interviews is a great assault.
Speaker 12: But Bla was doing an interview with MMA Junkies Pharah
Speaker 12: Noun shout out to her in that interview, and he
Speaker 12: was saying he actually had some issues after that weight cut. Right,
Speaker 12: You don't want to take anything away from Ian Gary
Speaker 12: in that performance. But Blal, who is a very consummate professional,
Speaker 12: a weird thing to hear having trouble with the weight
Speaker 12: cut much less like shakes and like vertigos and all
Speaker 12: these issues. And basically he said he had a hard
Speaker 12: time even he was just happy to get through the
Speaker 12: fight that it happened. You know, there was some some
Speaker 12: issues there, So I don't want to pooh pooh look
Speaker 12: too much into that. And Kenny had an aces breakdown,
Speaker 12: so I'll try not to retread too much ground, but
Speaker 12: I do like his experience. Note I'll just add to
Speaker 12: the notes some numbers to that breakdown below four to
Speaker 12: one and one in that UFC level, in that UFC apex,
Speaker 12: a smaller apex and bomb theme two and zero in
Speaker 12: that small apex three and oh, if you count contender
Speaker 12: series something else. I'll notice that applies to not just
Speaker 12: this fight, but a lot of the fights. Speaking of
Speaker 12: the numbers, guys, so even though he opened as an underdog,
Speaker 12: technically he is now favored. And this doesn't make sense
Speaker 12: in both that in both fashions where the totals, Guys,
Speaker 12: this is a favor to go over three point five rounds.
Speaker 12: But if I told you he was going it was
Speaker 12: going over three point five rounds, who would you favor?
Speaker 12: I'm guessing belall right, right, he's the more proven product
Speaker 12: in those rounds. So it's weird that the underdog, or
Speaker 12: at least the initial underdog opener in blal is you know,
Speaker 12: the underdog in a fight that's favored to go the distance.
Speaker 12: And if you look at that dynamic, that actually tracks
Speaker 12: through a lot of this card, which makes it tricky
Speaker 12: as a better because you're like, what are you telling
Speaker 12: me here?
Speaker 8: Las Vegas? And so a little confusing when you.
Speaker 12: Look at that aspect. From the technical aspect, though, I
Speaker 12: got to go with Kenny to keep it simple here.
Speaker 12: I think a lot of it's going to be experienced
Speaker 12: and rest linging that octagon. Now, Ball is gonna have
Speaker 12: to navigate through leg kicks, guillotines once he closes the distance.
Speaker 12: And something that I've noticed here is left sided strikes
Speaker 12: seemed to be you know, he got hit with a
Speaker 12: lot of right hands against Ian Gary the last fight,
Speaker 12: but overall it's been left side of strikes from either
Speaker 12: side that have been the common culprit for Ballah. And
Speaker 12: we know that bomb theme has a nice left hook
Speaker 12: from the former Serrato MMA teammate Vicente Luke there so
Speaker 12: bomb theme feels live, guys. But as a pick here,
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go with Blah and I'll keep it to
Speaker 12: that because I wanted to if we have time to
Speaker 12: squeeze in one more freedom two fifty question at John, Yeah,
Speaker 12: please at the end right now. I gotta I just
Speaker 12: gotta know real quick, John. But what I got to
Speaker 12: know is last time I was on, we asked for
Speaker 12: a fight. I said, you know, I said to Pooria.
Speaker 12: We got to Poria but my sick head. Here's where
Speaker 12: my sickhead goes, right, Like, I don't know if you've
Speaker 12: gotten your ad reads yet, John, but I gotta know
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Speaker 12: you know, like get that real? You know what what
Speaker 12: are we going to get? Like?
Speaker 8: Please? Like that's what I you know, I want to see.
Speaker 12: I want to see him go all out of if
Speaker 12: you forget the Freedom two fifty T shirts, Let's take
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Speaker 8: Let's go.
Speaker 7: I like where your mind is at, I like where
Speaker 7: your oppression game is at. I haven't seen anything yet.
Speaker 7: I mean, we have our first meeting coming at five
Speaker 7: pm Eastern today, so I'm excited. But yeah, I think
Speaker 7: I don't know what I'm walking into. So maybe there
Speaker 7: will be some bells and whistles even beyond my wildest imagination.
Speaker 7: All Right, you guys each have one thousand dollars for
Speaker 7: place your bets on this fight card. Ken flows year
Speaker 7: to date if you're tracking it home is plus seventeen
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Speaker 12: One band to work with, one band to rule them. Oh,
Speaker 12: I don't know the lot of the rings fans. I'm sorry,
Speaker 12: I probably just butchered that, but I got my slate ready,
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go. Let's start off with a let's get
Speaker 12: the air quote safe thing, which is there's no safe
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Speaker 12: That being said, got a three legger for you don't
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Speaker 12: for a zeum those three decent favorites.
Speaker 8: So it will give you plus money.
Speaker 12: I got it for plus one fourteen, but it'll get
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Speaker 12: Let's go half the bank roll of today's slot on
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Speaker 8: Uh, and then I want to do a by Low.
Speaker 12: It's really weird getting you guys were talking about Colby
Speaker 12: Covington either, And one of my favorite things about Colby
Speaker 12: Covington is the fact that he was polarizing because people would,
Speaker 12: you know, bet against his personality and not respect his skills.
Speaker 8: So even if you weren't a.
Speaker 12: Colby Covington fan, you were getting him at a better
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Speaker 12: a lot of that same effect. You open it to
Speaker 12: minus two fifty down, I got him as low as
Speaker 12: minus one thirty eight. Listen, you know, if you listen
Speaker 12: to Bryce Mitchell's interviews or gosh forbid, you go to
Speaker 12: his instagram, you probably.
Speaker 8: Won't want to bet on him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 12: But if you look at him in these fights, this
Speaker 12: guy is it's fine when you're poor, you're crazy, when
Speaker 12: you have these wild ideas. When you're rich, you're eccentric. Well,
Speaker 12: when you're considered when you're considered perceived stupid, You're a savant, right,
Speaker 12: and this is coming from a fellow savant. No disrespect Bryce. Okay,
Speaker 12: I've got some savantness in me too, but Bryce is
Speaker 12: a sylvant when it comes to the fighting, and that
Speaker 12: is something that has to be done. So three hundred
Speaker 12: on Bryce Mitchell. Lastly, but not leastly, was tempted to
Speaker 12: go with Edman Schabasi, but a little biased there. Don't
Speaker 12: know what the points handicap is, so you know what,
Speaker 12: Let's go down to the next dog. I like on
Speaker 12: this card, Jordan Levitt in the small cage. A lot
Speaker 12: of money came in on him, so you're not getting
Speaker 12: as good of a number, but still a juicy plus number.
Speaker 12: Give me two hundred on him for the for the
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Speaker 8: Off my thousand.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 7: Jordan Levitt, recent guests of the Anakin Florim podcast and
Speaker 7: competing at featherweight. Now, all right, nicely done, Dan, tom
Speaker 7: Ken flow thousand dollars with which to work.
Speaker 1: This is real money, folks. Go ahead, Kenny, I.
Speaker 2: Got some less thoughtful bets here.
Speaker 6: A good job there, Dan, All right, So I'm gonna
Speaker 6: go a seven fitty on zm Oh wow, okay, yes,
Speaker 6: alrighty yes, and then two fifty on Brendan Allen and
Speaker 6: that will complete the thousand.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not surprised that both guys are steering clear
Speaker 7: of that main event, which steam Lincol continues to draw
Speaker 7: two way action. All right, at Dan Tom, MMA, outstanding job,
Speaker 7: great backdrop, looking good man, man. We appreciate the time,
Speaker 7: and uh, don't be a stranger.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 7: I'm sure we'll talk to you in a few weeks,
Speaker 7: but if not in the next week. Enjoy UFC Freedom
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, and I'll be on the ground for the.
Speaker 12: The McGregor cart so maybe i'll see you guys in
Speaker 12: person if you guys are running around.
Speaker 8: Always a pleasure, guys, my.
Speaker 7: Man, we'll see July for sure. There is Dan Tom
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Speaker 7: ninety percent buy back fifty dollars on your sixty ken flow.
Speaker 2: What are we thinking? Yeah, I'll take the buy back
Speaker 2: on this, all right.
Speaker 7: So Kenny's gonna sell sell, sell sales, sell, gets forty
Speaker 7: seven dollars and fourteen cents. So if you are curious
Speaker 7: at home and you want to get in on this,
Speaker 7: Kenny lost thirteen dollars on that exchange, and he's gonna
Speaker 7: go right back into the building. I'm gonna be smiling
Speaker 7: all day about this, fucking homdo col.
Speaker 2: Dude, that was a big let's go, let's go, let's
Speaker 2: get here.
Speaker 1: Dun dun dunn ah dun dun d uh.
Speaker 2: Here we want there it is, let's go.
Speaker 7: Twenty twenty five Tops Chrome Sapphire UFCE Weston Wilson PSA ten.
Speaker 7: They're offering you back forty dollars and change can flow
Speaker 7: on your West and Wilson. Any Western Wilson fans out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm just gonna say I'm
Speaker 2: gonna sell that.
Speaker 7: I'm a Western Wilson fan, but we sell and we
Speaker 7: just live in the moment that is the Kamza Chimayav today.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure if I open my cellar telephone right now,
Speaker 7: I got our Anakin Florian podcast business manager Jason Annix
Speaker 7: saying You're gonna have to give that Chimayav card away
Speaker 7: and not keep it for your collection. I'm telling you, dude, like, like,
Speaker 7: look at this right, Like I got a whole box
Speaker 7: of cards and like sleeves and like, I oh, oh,
Speaker 7: real quick, so real quick.
Speaker 2: I know we got to go.
Speaker 7: So I was going through old drawers right and I
Speaker 7: came across this is a Ronda Rousey card that I
Speaker 7: came across. This is an authentic twenty twelve tops UFC
Speaker 7: Bloodlines Jumbo Fight Matt relic card. So this relic, you know,
Speaker 7: this is specific canvas from Strikeforce thirty nine. So I
Speaker 7: think that's about a thirty nine dollars card, or excuse me,
Speaker 7: a four hundred dollars card that well anyway, anyway, anyway,
Speaker 7: good stuff today. Thanks to everybody for being here. Thanks
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Speaker 7: UFC Freedom two fifty preview next Sunday night, July June seventh,
Speaker 7: June seventh, I won't say June seventh, but Sunday, June seventh,
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Speaker 7: fifty Yannie the Greek will be offering up I think
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Speaker 7: with that we got to get on out of here.
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