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Speaker 1: to this championship edition of the Players Lounge. Bared Church
Speaker 1: is author So Cowboys stafford Ben Bullock is in Maga
Speaker 1: Sci five Dog Team. He's in the house. LSU national
Speaker 1: champion Danny McCray is in the house, a former championship
Speaker 1: player for the Tigers himself. He's here. I am NEWI
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Speaker 1: Gold All. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do like Boots.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna go buy you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was looking. I'm not looking like. I
Speaker 1: love Boost though. Yeah, but he knows he knows where
Speaker 1: to stop. He know where to stopped. Said he gonna
Speaker 1: start his own step team. Yeah, the Boost and Step
Speaker 1: getting paid for the news can go all right, So
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of cowboy your shoes to get
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff. So there's lots of things. They're
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, it's going to be the play caller. But
Speaker 1: before I do that, I will allow Danny to have
Speaker 1: his triumphant room. First thing, I want to are you, Brooke,
Speaker 1: because I saw the itinerary that you were posting on
Speaker 1: social media about all the spots hitting. I saw you
Speaker 1: aided dragging you. They should know you by naming drag goes,
Speaker 1: you might be able to go back and cook the meal.
Speaker 1: You were there so much so, so go ahead. Tell
Speaker 1: me the whole experience of being in New Orleans where
Speaker 1: LSU has won another national championship. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Haven't they won all four in New Orleans? I know
Speaker 1: three for sure, Yes, all four? Yeah, I know. I've
Speaker 1: been there for two now, and the atmosphere this time
Speaker 1: was much more intense and amazing than the first time
Speaker 1: I won. I think the the excitement around the team
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow and all our number one receivers and
Speaker 1: running back that was all that I think it was.
Speaker 1: It was it showed up and in respect to Clemson,
Speaker 1: they had a lot of fans out there. I mean
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, it was a lot of large out there.
Speaker 1: There was a lot a lot of orange out there,
Speaker 1: and they tried their best to hang with the with
Speaker 1: the bat Rouge and Lsu folks. They didn't know how
Speaker 1: to handle New Orleans. I saw a lot of orange
Speaker 1: sleep out there on Bourbon Street throughout the weekend, and
Speaker 1: we saw it at the end of the day. They
Speaker 1: weren't about that, like, they weren't about that like they tried.
Speaker 1: They tried. They had their own little bout for me
Speaker 1: on one hand, on one half of Bourbon Street, and
Speaker 1: I saw him and it just didn't look the same.
Speaker 1: It didn't look the same. Well. It is definitely one
Speaker 1: of those situations where when you go to New Orleans
Speaker 1: there is a difference between the natives and the visitors.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I've been there myself. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're trying to get the land of land and
Speaker 1: understand everything. But there's a difference between those those who know,
Speaker 1: they know definitely definite. They know. They know when the
Speaker 1: horse is getting run down Bourbon Street, they know when
Speaker 1: they get out the way, they know where to go eat.
Speaker 1: They know how many hand garnads they can have and
Speaker 1: how many is too much. They know all that and
Speaker 1: Clemson didn't, and that's why we came back and beat them. Man,
Speaker 1: I think I think the fans might have got a
Speaker 1: little sleep, but they have been in New Orleans too long,
Speaker 1: too long, and they died out a little bit and
Speaker 1: the LSU woke up, and then those fans took over
Speaker 1: seventeen seven and then we score how many un answered?
Speaker 1: Too many? Essentially it's a blowout. They almost got to
Speaker 1: put off the sticks twenty one. Well, you could definitely
Speaker 1: tell the first two or three drives that they were
Speaker 1: just off. And that's that lay the layoff to meet.
Speaker 1: It's too long between the semi final championship game because
Speaker 1: to me, that the whole first quarter we didn't see.
Speaker 1: We didn't see both teams doing what they've done all
Speaker 1: year long, especially with Joe Burrow. They they were just
Speaker 1: off and then they got towards the end. But that's
Speaker 1: just my funing. So so I give you this for them.
Speaker 1: I think the defensive game plan for Clemson, the way
Speaker 1: they came out, so this is scripted. The first fifteen plays,
Speaker 1: I think that defensive plan was amazing. They only had
Speaker 1: one linebacker playing. They ran three one seven and then
Speaker 1: so for LSU, I think what happened was if you
Speaker 1: go back, If you go back to Georgia, a lot
Speaker 1: of those players were out after halftime. If you go
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, a lot of those players were out after halftime,
Speaker 1: and then you got two weeks off, and then you
Speaker 1: come out and you start the game off on your
Speaker 1: own goal line with these first fifteen scripted players that
Speaker 1: looked crazy that they've never seen before, so they were off.
Speaker 1: Then they see some stuff that they really have never
Speaker 1: seen before. Then Joe Brady figures it out, Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: is on with them, and we just take off. I
Speaker 1: look back. Honestly, the bigger part of the most important
Speaker 1: part of the game was at the end of the
Speaker 1: first half, that last drive, so it was third and nineteen.
Speaker 1: It was an incomplete pass, but it was a PI
Speaker 1: on Clemson, okay, so it was like maybe like thirty
Speaker 1: second stuff. And then later on in the drive it
Speaker 1: was another third and ten. That's when they called that
Speaker 1: draw play to Joe Brow and then he get out
Speaker 1: of bounce and then the next play they hit Thaddist
Speaker 1: Moss for a touchdown. That completely changed the entire momentum
Speaker 1: one of the game because it went from Clemson getting
Speaker 1: the ball back and maybe scoring at the end of
Speaker 1: the first half, and then getting the ball back in
Speaker 1: the second half to being down even more and then
Speaker 1: you saw what happened. They were unfortunate unable to recover.
Speaker 1: And even Davo said a halftime he was like, look,
Speaker 1: it was just a very sloppy into the first half
Speaker 1: and it pretty much cost him. Listen, they almost came
Speaker 1: out the gates getting blew out. We don't have a
Speaker 1: legal linement downfield. Yeah, I forgot about that. We got
Speaker 1: a forty yard bomb going on. We got two drop passes,
Speaker 1: one from my best receiver, one from Justin like we
Speaker 1: like he said, we came out slow, but we still
Speaker 1: come up with a forty yard pass and the office
Speaker 1: a linement is a couple of year was down the
Speaker 1: field that yeah, yeah, that changed it for us. Well,
Speaker 1: this is a historic football team, LSU defeating seven teams
Speaker 1: ranked in the top ten. That's never been done for
Speaker 1: a national champion. And looking at the game and now
Speaker 1: that it's over, we go back. I just think about
Speaker 1: this team had issues in the first quarter and they
Speaker 1: still came out and just blew the doors off Clemson
Speaker 1: in the second half. We're talking about a team that
Speaker 1: had at twenty nine game winning trick, a team that
Speaker 1: had a national championship, that had beat in Alabama. I mean,
Speaker 1: this was as good an opponent as you were going
Speaker 1: to face, and they took them apart. That to me
Speaker 1: was very, very impressive about what they did. So congratulations
Speaker 1: to you guys as LSU alums. And well, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me let me clarify something real quick. I'm not
Speaker 1: an alum. Just for Danny, Okay, this is for you
Speaker 1: both of y'all. I'm not an alum. I worked there
Speaker 1: for a year and a half. So I'm gonna adopt
Speaker 1: a son. If we have any LSU fans listener to this,
Speaker 1: I listen. I just quick story new my man being.
Speaker 1: I saw him on the show. I was like three
Speaker 1: episodes ago, and I wanted to call in because I
Speaker 1: wanted him to tell y'all his story. He says that LSU,
Speaker 1: I mean Florida is his one A school and LSU
Speaker 1: is his one B team. Yeah, that is not legal
Speaker 1: in the Yes, can I explain each West team? Yes?
Speaker 1: Pretty much? A Rod we played him every year, Please,
Speaker 1: I have to he all right? So growing up, what
Speaker 1: I'm thirty about to be thirty two. So mid nineties
Speaker 1: is where I really started watching football, like Steve Spurrier,
Speaker 1: like all the guns slang that I used to do. Okay,
Speaker 1: So but at the same time, I never had a
Speaker 1: problem with LSU. Never. I always followed that's obviously one.
Speaker 1: Let me finished Broka, all right. So so then twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen I had the opportunity to work for LSU. Okay,
Speaker 1: So once I got the opportunity and crazy things coming
Speaker 1: into it. So when the floods in twenty sixteen, my
Speaker 1: current my boss at the time, actually let me get
Speaker 1: a house but it got flooded out. So because they
Speaker 1: were able to do a lot of different things for me,
Speaker 1: including coach, the head coach for the baseball team, um,
Speaker 1: he was able to give me a discounted apartment. So
Speaker 1: LSU means a lot to me. So that's why they
Speaker 1: beat all right one watch Florida one because I'm loyal.
Speaker 1: That's my team. I'm not gonna just because tomorrow watching them. Absolutely, Okay, absolutely, listen.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. You out of your one
Speaker 1: B slot, that's nobody's one bat. NEWI tell them that
Speaker 1: nobody's one bat will never I'm a grown a man.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna be my one B team. That's there's
Speaker 1: only one. I got an old seven Polos, only one.
Speaker 1: Who's your who's your sec edition team? Is it? Texas?
Speaker 1: Ain't even resoo? I mean, who's your man? They don't
Speaker 1: even count three East Team West Team as well. I
Speaker 1: don't count them man. Okay, Okay, So so it's now
Speaker 1: ten minutes into the show. We're done. We're not because
Speaker 1: we're gonna go right back to it because somehow you
Speaker 1: think we'll get to the let us dive into the
Speaker 1: convoys here on the players last, because we have coaching news. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is something that we wanted if the initial press
Speaker 1: conference that coach Mike McCarthy was not ready to tell
Speaker 1: us exactly everything he had going on, the staff is
Speaker 1: pretty much rounded in the shape. Let's start with Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: who remains on the team, and Mike McCarthy in a
Speaker 1: one on interviews one on one with the Beat writers,
Speaker 1: let everyone know something he canna do with the TV
Speaker 1: guys last week when I was there. Um, Kellen's gonna
Speaker 1: call plays, thoughts I like it. Um, I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: going to call the plays. But I'm sure Mike is
Speaker 1: going to have a big say in the plays that
Speaker 1: are on the sheet, but I think that I don't
Speaker 1: think Kellen did a bad job last year. Minus his
Speaker 1: fourth down flour down like gotta having plays, I thought
Speaker 1: they were very questionable. But other than that, he got
Speaker 1: he got guys open, he got guys in uh in positions,
Speaker 1: in positions to make plays, and for the most part
Speaker 1: when it when it was on the line, we just
Speaker 1: didn't make those plays. There were throws that could have
Speaker 1: been made to guys that were open and in coverages
Speaker 1: and the seams, and we just didn't make those. So
Speaker 1: I think he called good games. His fourth down got
Speaker 1: to have it plays to me, where where the weak
Speaker 1: point where you know, we saw the out route that
Speaker 1: we talked about this whole time, with Zeke running five
Speaker 1: yards five yards, fire yard outs, quarterback keepers by dak
Speaker 1: Uh Coope not being on the field on fourth down.
Speaker 1: It just it was consistent all year for that for
Speaker 1: that down. But other than that, I think he did
Speaker 1: he did well, especially for his first year calling plays.
Speaker 1: I think um with Kellen, I thought he did a
Speaker 1: solid jobs, especially for his first time calling plays on
Speaker 1: this particular level. Um, I really like the fact that
Speaker 1: McCarthy is adjusting to him because they're going to keep
Speaker 1: the same terminology even though they're going to move to
Speaker 1: a West Coast style of offense. So that's the most
Speaker 1: interesting part to me because I want to see how
Speaker 1: all that message together while McCarthy's trying to blend in
Speaker 1: while Kelling and Dak and us those guys try to
Speaker 1: kind of fit and for him together. So I don't
Speaker 1: mind it, and I think Kelly Moore will do a
Speaker 1: really solid job. I hope he just builds on and
Speaker 1: can stays consistent with the run going forward minus the
Speaker 1: fourth downs. So one of the things I explained to
Speaker 1: people is a guy like Mike McCarthy is going to
Speaker 1: be there basically walking and talking with Kellen throughout the
Speaker 1: game as a head coach. There they'll come up point
Speaker 1: in time. Let's say it's third and two. He may
Speaker 1: tell Kellen, all right, have two plays ready to go,
Speaker 1: meaning he's gonna want to go for it on fourth Doweman.
Speaker 1: These are things that coaches say. Let's say, for instance,
Speaker 1: the defense has been on the field a lot, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a point in time where the head coach
Speaker 1: will tell the play caller, look, we need to we
Speaker 1: need choose some clock here, Let's get some run. So
Speaker 1: these are the things that a head coach will do.
Speaker 1: All headach, any head coach worth the salt, is gonna
Speaker 1: make sure he's telling his guys what to do. Parcels
Speaker 1: would do me. Every good head coach, it's gonna say
Speaker 1: to their offensive and defensive coordinators some things that they
Speaker 1: want to see in the football game, because the end
Speaker 1: of the day is your football team. Yeah, and he should.
Speaker 1: We talked about the pressure. The pressure will be on
Speaker 1: him because the assumption is we have everything in line
Speaker 1: to make a real run at a Super Bowl, right,
Speaker 1: So him coming in here and losing would be a
Speaker 1: real knock on the hire. So he has the responsibility
Speaker 1: to come in here and win. So for him to
Speaker 1: put that all in Kellen's hands, I don't think that happened.
Speaker 1: I think, like you said, he'll be in his ear.
Speaker 1: But I think it would be a little bit more
Speaker 1: than you know, third and two. You know, we might
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth. I think that that scheme
Speaker 1: is going to be a mix of McCarthy and what
Speaker 1: he figured out in the offseason and the year that
Speaker 1: he was off and Kellen and what he did last season.
Speaker 1: All right, Danny McCrae helped me and our Cowboy fans
Speaker 1: out there listening understand why Doug nuss Meyer becomes quarterback
Speaker 1: coach and John Kittner's let go. You know, you know what,
Speaker 1: I honestly, I couldn't tell you. I really would say
Speaker 1: that I love Kitten. I thought he was a good coach.
Speaker 1: What's he a Jason Garrett guy? Is this like a
Speaker 1: cleansing of most of the people that were here they
Speaker 1: were under Jason Garrett. Because I thought that John Kinnatt
Speaker 1: did a great job with that, uh minus some of
Speaker 1: the throws and being behind late and early in games
Speaker 1: and him having to throw fifty and sixty times. I
Speaker 1: think his progression under John Kintner was there. I think
Speaker 1: he was getting better. Um. But John Kittner did play
Speaker 1: for Jason Garrett and then he coached for Jason Garrett.
Speaker 1: And we're seeing a lot of guys that coach for
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett office rop. But stay here with that, John
Speaker 1: Kittner played for Mike Holgren. Yeah, and and you know,
Speaker 1: so understanding a West Coast offense and what they do,
Speaker 1: kid hasn't understand. So anyway that this is it's the
Speaker 1: connection mention. This is interay, So Duck, that's myer goals
Speaker 1: from coaching tight ends to coaching quarterbacks. Tight end coach
Speaker 1: is a guy Lunda Wells. I'm not familiar with. Lunda
Speaker 1: was an LSU when I was at LSU, uh and
Speaker 1: then and my rookie year. I believe he went to
Speaker 1: the Giants and he was like the quality control guy
Speaker 1: and he's just been kind of moving up in the ranking.
Speaker 1: So when he was when I knew him, he was,
Speaker 1: you know, he was he was lounded, right, he was,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a ga and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So just to see that he's gone from that to
Speaker 1: now being the tight ends coach and he had been
Speaker 1: coaching in New York for a while, so apparently he's
Speaker 1: doing something right. So I know him personally, as far
Speaker 1: as what he's done in the coaching in the coaching room,
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure, but somebody likes him. All right.
Speaker 1: Let's speak of a guy you also know who's now
Speaker 1: on going to be on the staff. Skip Pete. Skip
Speaker 1: Pete was Skipp was here earlier in his tenure and Uh,
Speaker 1: he worked with Jason Garrett, but he was here beforehand.
Speaker 1: I'd go back to Skip back to his UCLA days
Speaker 1: when I worked out in Los Angeles and knowing Skippy
Speaker 1: and his brother Rodney Pete, who used to be a
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys quarterback. So the pet family, the Pete family
Speaker 1: has a connection with the Cowboys. I think this is
Speaker 1: a good heart now. Stan Drayton was a name that
Speaker 1: was connected with this job running backs coach run game
Speaker 1: coordinator Texas. He was making five hundred and forty thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: a lot more than what they paid Gary Brand two
Speaker 1: hundred grand more. Basically for what I was told two
Speaker 1: hundred grand more. I'm sorry, you're not taking a two
Speaker 1: hundred thousan dollar pay cut. Nah, like the Cowboys all
Speaker 1: day long. But you know you don't, you don't look that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like, like I were talking about this before we
Speaker 1: got on air, about Skip Pete and he was here
Speaker 1: in my rookie year and he would really because I'm
Speaker 1: on defense. So he really took it upon himself to
Speaker 1: reach out to me in church and sell us down
Speaker 1: and talk to us as men before each game, probably
Speaker 1: like an hour and a half two hour conversations which
Speaker 1: is wild because y'all on the other side of the ball,
Speaker 1: outside the ball. But he saw us as young guys
Speaker 1: undraft the free agent, so he told us what we
Speaker 1: need to do to continue to stay on the team,
Speaker 1: what we need to do to have careers, what we
Speaker 1: need to do to be good man. He could see
Speaker 1: you to do that his whole entire time here. I
Speaker 1: love Skip Pete, so I think it's a great higher.
Speaker 1: I love GB. If I had to choose between the
Speaker 1: two would be super difficult. But I don't think we
Speaker 1: lose anything here. As a matter of fact, I think
Speaker 1: we probably gain game a little bit, especially with history
Speaker 1: and experience. And I think, if I'm not mistake, McCarthy
Speaker 1: and Skip actually were worked together at pitt so that's
Speaker 1: where that connection kind of comes together. And I think
Speaker 1: with Skip coming here, him working with Gurley before and
Speaker 1: kind of have a familiarity of what the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: organizations and what, you know, the expectations. So I think
Speaker 1: it's a really good fit. And like you said, we
Speaker 1: both wished nothing but the best for Gbing. He's a
Speaker 1: great dude. I got to work with a couple of
Speaker 1: times on a couple of things, but I think the
Speaker 1: addition of Skip Pete is gonna be really good to
Speaker 1: this team. One of the things that really modes well
Speaker 1: for Skippy that I go back to. Skipp was in
Speaker 1: Oakland and they had Garner and I forget that I
Speaker 1: think Wheatley might have been the big back, but then yeah,
Speaker 1: they had that. One of the things that had was
Speaker 1: that ability a big back and a shifty back, so
Speaker 1: they had kind of a two and Enrich Gannon was
Speaker 1: very well in terms of mixing that run pass play.
Speaker 1: So when they got here, they had Marian Barber and
Speaker 1: the when they had number one pick, they ended up
Speaker 1: drafting Felix Jones and they were trying to get that
Speaker 1: kind of balance back and that yeah, the three running backs.
Speaker 1: But to me, it just kind of I think of
Speaker 1: what they did in Oakland and had a lot of success.
Speaker 1: So you got Zeke, you know, the bigger back, and
Speaker 1: then you got Tony Potter coming in here. So Skippy
Speaker 1: is going to be able to really, you know, work
Speaker 1: with Kellen Moore and Mike McCarthy a vision of how
Speaker 1: to really get those guys going. So I think they
Speaker 1: made a good call there. Linebacker coach is going to
Speaker 1: be Scott McCurley. He knows Mike McCarthy. They worked together.
Speaker 1: Jeff Blasco is going to be the assistant offensive line
Speaker 1: coach to Joe Philburn, So Philbin and Blasco are people
Speaker 1: that also have worked with Mike McCarthy. Mike Woisick no
Speaker 1: longer the strength coach. He is going to retire there,
Speaker 1: so this is kind of and Mike Nolan is going
Speaker 1: to keep the four three defense. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they'll eventually switch it, because we saw what Bill Parcels
Speaker 1: came in here. They stayed with three four and eventually
Speaker 1: went for three that eventually switched to a three four
Speaker 1: because they're definitely different types of players and pieces you're
Speaker 1: using that defense. So I'll be very interested to see
Speaker 1: boy here two or three what they do defensively if
Speaker 1: they try and change. If you've got Tom Seuelan too, yes,
Speaker 1: Jim tom Seuelan defensive line coach, a very respective defensive
Speaker 1: line coach. So we're still kind of waiting on Leon
Speaker 1: like to see Leon let me have some good cat
Speaker 1: come back, man. Yeah, we love big Cat. Like you
Speaker 1: were saying about the defense, I'm not even sure to
Speaker 1: take two years to figure out if you want to
Speaker 1: switch to the three four. I think we got some
Speaker 1: some good outside linebacker type guys that yeah, that can rush.
Speaker 1: It depends on what you do on the other side
Speaker 1: with him, what you do with the with your three technique,
Speaker 1: or you knows whoever gonna be that two gap guy.
Speaker 1: But it could. It could change sooner than than we
Speaker 1: possibly expect, depending on the draft and who we pick up.
Speaker 1: Maurice Linguist, by the way, leaving Texas a and m
Speaker 1: local guy to come coach. He's also our frat brother
Speaker 1: to Knui. Really yes, yes, but congratulations. Well, you want
Speaker 1: a champion in here. You want somebody to understand manhood, scholarship,
Speaker 1: perseverance up and this is fantastic, he said, champion we
Speaker 1: just talk about for the first two minutes of the show. Hey,
Speaker 1: this is what I really liked though. But um, that
Speaker 1: McCarthy has done. He's brought in like three or four
Speaker 1: former head coaches, so he's going to have some leadership
Speaker 1: across his entire coaching staff. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys agree with that or not, but I really like
Speaker 1: that aspect of it. Yeah, I'm not I'm not really
Speaker 1: sure how that works like that. Yeah, no, I create conversation.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm not saying I'm not saying it's a
Speaker 1: bad thing. You know, how it, you know, pertains to
Speaker 1: how the coaching styles and how they run it in
Speaker 1: the hierarchy of of who gets to say what, and
Speaker 1: you know how serious they take each conversation. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how that works. I think he's doing a good
Speaker 1: job of rinking in guys with the experience guys guys
Speaker 1: are here comfortable with and that he knows. As we
Speaker 1: talked about previously, Uh, you know, I didn't look Jo
Speaker 1: had he had Paul pascal Ony here, he had Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli here. You're talking about two guys were former head coaches.
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's one that you can use it
Speaker 1: to say this helps, but we've also seen it was
Speaker 1: here and it didn't produce the results that people wanted.
Speaker 1: So it all it all, you know, this is all
Speaker 1: about Mike and how he uses guys and basically to me,
Speaker 1: how he gets guys to buy it. But the coaching
Speaker 1: staff a lot of it is what he wants. And
Speaker 1: I think that's important because the last time we saw
Speaker 1: a coach really come in here and put his put
Speaker 1: on the staff was Bill Parcels, and I think that
Speaker 1: resulted in eight lets say it was eight head coaches
Speaker 1: that came out of that from the NFL major college level.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the hope that maybe one day you're
Speaker 1: talking about some of these guys becoming head coaches and
Speaker 1: doing doing their things, and we glossed over a little bit.
Speaker 1: I do want to just give a proper shout out
Speaker 1: and congratulates his own retirement to coach wise, because he's
Speaker 1: been in the game for a long time, he's been
Speaker 1: on that for a long time. He has a lot
Speaker 1: of success, a lot of experience, and I wish you
Speaker 1: numb but the best. He's been nothing but great to me.
Speaker 1: We still can talk in text and go eat crawfish
Speaker 1: and do all that good stuff. Huh. I know he
Speaker 1: loves some crawfit, love some crawfits. Though. Of course you
Speaker 1: haven't court this gotta you don't have his career. You're right,
Speaker 1: I will, We're right, I will come, Julia. Now, first
Speaker 1: of all, we gotta go, we gotta do, we gotta
Speaker 1: handle first, we got we gotta make it the pop
Speaker 1: of those first. But then after that, you know, I
Speaker 1: knew it. You welcome to come to any Crawfits ball
Speaker 1: that I have in my house, and I will make
Speaker 1: any additions to the pot that you want. You want
Speaker 1: some green beans, but in the Crowfits season, I got
Speaker 1: you want some mushroom. I got you want some turkey. Next,
Speaker 1: I got you whatever corner I got. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: nice and soap too. Yeah, okay, good, We're good. We
Speaker 1: have to take a break here all the players lounge
Speaker 1: when we come back. A couple of other issues we
Speaker 1: gotta get to. Drew Pearson does not get in the
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall fan Cliff Harris does. We've got to
Speaker 1: get into the Aaron Hernandez Netflix series that If you haven't,
Speaker 1: I won't give it all the way, but we'll dive
Speaker 1: into that because it's pretty important. And could a championship
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Speaker 1: scrugs Sports. Okay, m M. I want to like Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. He makes it hard. No man makes it
Speaker 1: hard because what what what reason do you have to
Speaker 1: give money out on the field while everyone's looking. And
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I've never carried fake
Speaker 1: money and real money at the same time. Listen, this
Speaker 1: is alleged. I will not speak to the possible NCAA
Speaker 1: violations that that happened on the field at that time.
Speaker 1: But why would you you crazy? Excited? You he's he's
Speaker 1: out of his mind excited. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: When I when I got married, everybody at my wedding,
Speaker 1: when I looked out that crowd, they had better been
Speaker 1: as excited as ob J was when he was out
Speaker 1: there on the field, you better be happy for me,
Speaker 1: and these things are possible. The dude who was experiencing
Speaker 1: a feeling of nostalgia and excitement that he had never
Speaker 1: felt before, probably just he probably just let's left the casino.
Speaker 1: He was running all his family, everybody that loved him.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, you know what, man, let me
Speaker 1: share this in the moment, and it happened. He was
Speaker 1: celebrating on the field after the game, and you look
Speaker 1: at I think he gave money to most of the
Speaker 1: guys who will no longer be at LSU. So Ben,
Speaker 1: do you keep your fake money in your left pocket
Speaker 1: or right pocket either. I don't keep cash on me
Speaker 1: unless I go get a haircut. Like I said, all
Speaker 1: this is alleged. I'm not sure what type of notes
Speaker 1: he had. Maybe they all us then they say he
Speaker 1: hit the mall cop on the button. I mean I
Speaker 1: saw the video and the band. He was in the
Speaker 1: stands with the band. It was a whole lot of
Speaker 1: look at me, this all this stuff. No, but this
Speaker 1: is if you watch the games, this is stuff that
Speaker 1: he's been doing. He was he got the band to
Speaker 1: play nick at the stadium, right. It wasn't a big
Speaker 1: deal because they was because they was in the Tyger
Speaker 1: Stadium and they let them do it. Okay, slap the Okay,
Speaker 1: you probably just slapped the security guard on the butt.
Speaker 1: But lead them people alone, talk about I see a
Speaker 1: burn in the carpet. Do you know what just happened
Speaker 1: for the Tigers? They just won the national championship? Best
Speaker 1: college football team in the history of the game. You're
Speaker 1: gonna stop it from smoking cigars the whole video or
Speaker 1: Joe walking through with aid. This is customary. Lead them
Speaker 1: dudes alone, not worried about the burn on the couch,
Speaker 1: because it's kind of like what happens when the WWE
Speaker 1: comes to town. They you know, they tear up locker rooms,
Speaker 1: they create damage, and then they write you a chair
Speaker 1: at the door. We'll fix out. I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: till I leave alone. But the look at me aspect
Speaker 1: of Odell Man, let these kids have that moment. I
Speaker 1: just don't feel like it was a look at me.
Speaker 1: Think those dudes are excited to see him that they say.
Speaker 1: You think those dudes don't look up to Odell? You
Speaker 1: don't think he talked to them and their friends they
Speaker 1: want to see that he has genuine excitement for them
Speaker 1: experiencing and accomplishing what they did. And he showed that
Speaker 1: and it was genuine. I don't think it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this so I get on camera. The
Speaker 1: dude don't want to get an arrestaurant. I promise you
Speaker 1: that he was having a good time. I could promise you,
Speaker 1: just like a lot of the fans that were there,
Speaker 1: and he had been, you know, having a good time
Speaker 1: all day, probably all weekend. I saw him in the suite.
Speaker 1: You know, they all had a good time. I think
Speaker 1: it was unlimited everything in there. And he got on
Speaker 1: the field and he was just in that state of
Speaker 1: mind where it was like, man, let's let's let's celebrate. Then.
Speaker 1: I really think that if Odell is arrested, the lawyer
Speaker 1: needs to be right excellent. I take a come on, bro,
Speaker 1: get out of here. Man, you get out, get out
Speaker 1: of the winning. Go to Clemson locker room and do
Speaker 1: that this, I mean this is a powerful defense. Go
Speaker 1: to Clemson's locker room and do the coming there being awesome.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't now, he shouldn't have did it. You should
Speaker 1: have asked for apology or something. You won't try to
Speaker 1: send the man to jail. You want to stay this
Speaker 1: record for the rest of it, Like the man don't
Speaker 1: have no arrest on this on this record. This this
Speaker 1: is the arrest that you want him to have on
Speaker 1: the for his I'm glad he rich because I was like,
Speaker 1: he can't get no job because he got a simple
Speaker 1: battery misdemeaning for come on, man, I just know from
Speaker 1: my perspective, man, just kind of being around l Ship
Speaker 1: when I worked there. Odell came to the game a
Speaker 1: couple of times in spring games. He's always in the
Speaker 1: locker room. He's always on the sideline doing pretty much
Speaker 1: what we saw that that's but the guys enjoyed that though,
Speaker 1: like they ain't vibing him every but Craig Stells broke
Speaker 1: the huddle and then in the in the dB circle,
Speaker 1: Bryan Clark is out there on the sideline. Those that
Speaker 1: those things are encouraged by or walking out there. I'm
Speaker 1: saying no, but I promise have emails from from our
Speaker 1: university and Ocean Run. When he got the head job,
Speaker 1: that was his goal, that was to get all of
Speaker 1: the Alumnius family. Yes, and he wants he wants you
Speaker 1: on the field. He wants you talking to the guys.
Speaker 1: He wants you to I'm in the locker room, coming
Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms and sitting there telling your story
Speaker 1: about what it takes to win, and it's showing on
Speaker 1: the field. O'Dell is the one because he's he's the
Speaker 1: biggest star at the game getting seen doing the O'Dell
Speaker 1: is a bigger star as far as public. I know
Speaker 1: this not a judge around. It's gonna sit around here
Speaker 1: in Louisiana, ro l legend like O'Dell Beckham Junior in
Speaker 1: jail for the euphoria of the national championship. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Louis, thank you. I appreciate that you recognized
Speaker 1: I took it. I appreciate that you recognized that he
Speaker 1: was really because listen, I was in the place one time.
Speaker 1: I won't say where I was at. It was an office,
Speaker 1: not this office, and I think, um, O'Dell had just
Speaker 1: gotten paid, and I'm sitting here in the next cuvey
Speaker 1: hole next to me. I hear these guys talking. They're like,
Speaker 1: why is Sterling Shepherd acting like he's so excited? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: all the stuff I said, because he's genuinely happy for
Speaker 1: his boy. He's not showing off for himself like oh
Speaker 1: I'm happy like pay me. He's happy for the guy.
Speaker 1: And they couldn't understand that this guy was really happy
Speaker 1: for his friend finally getting paid. And I was like,
Speaker 1: come on, bro, come on, he can't experience the same
Speaker 1: bephore you of his friend making it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, accomplishing what he's been trying to come as
Speaker 1: since entire life. He can feel that excitement as well.
Speaker 1: That's what O'Dell felt. Shout out to you, OBJ man,
Speaker 1: do you think speaking of accomplishment? Wednesday, I got up
Speaker 1: at four or five in the morning so I could
Speaker 1: get over to Drew Pearson's house. Drew was having the
Speaker 1: media over because they were announcing the ten person senior
Speaker 1: class of players that were going to get into the
Speaker 1: Centennial class for the twenty twenty Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I am a guy that loves a Pro Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. I love football and football history. I had
Speaker 1: studied the ten finalists lists and I had told myself,
Speaker 1: they'll put two receivers in. One receiver to gain in
Speaker 1: was Max Speedy, for sure. Max Speedy was a guy who,
Speaker 1: when you look at being overlooked his accomplishments as a
Speaker 1: receiver for the Browns. This guy needed to be in.
Speaker 1: So I thought Speedy was one. I thought for sure.
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson was number two the nineteen seventies All Decade
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies first team. There were two players on offensive
Speaker 1: defense not in. It was Drew Pearson and Cliff Hairs.
Speaker 1: I mean they put the punter in man, Okay, like
Speaker 1: they're going to correct the wrong That didn't happen. We
Speaker 1: watched for three hours because they said the show had
Speaker 1: started six AM and the NFL network Good Morning Football Show,
Speaker 1: so we're there were six Drew had put out champagne.
Speaker 1: This hat that I have on my head, this is
Speaker 1: one of the hats that he passed out. He had
Speaker 1: passed out T shirts. His grandkids were there, his kids
Speaker 1: were there, his close friends, his business partners. We were
Speaker 1: expecting a celebration in the party. I told Drew I
Speaker 1: worked I worked with Drew Piston for thirteen years. Okay,
Speaker 1: we worked in TV together at NBC five here in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you the many nights I spoke with Drew.
Speaker 1: This was before he even got in the Cowboys Ring
Speaker 1: of Water. It's gonna happen. Man, It's gonna happen, and
Speaker 1: today is your day. There's no way, I said. I
Speaker 1: looked at the four receivers. All right, Hey, Maxpeed, he's
Speaker 1: got a case. Cliff Branch Oakland Raiders a good player,
Speaker 1: you know, worthy, but he was never on a first
Speaker 1: or second team All Decade team. Car Harold Carmichael hey Man,
Speaker 1: never won a Super Bowl. He was second team to you,
Speaker 1: I said, Drew, it's you. We all thought that. In fact,
Speaker 1: there were people telling him that who were close to
Speaker 1: the situation. Wow. For three hours we sat there, we waited.
Speaker 1: I was alerted midway through that Cliff Harris had got in.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, Jimmy Johnson had got in that Sunday.
Speaker 1: Now Cliff is in. It's a total of fifteen that
Speaker 1: we're going in. Ten players, it contributors, and then the coaches.
Speaker 1: No way they were getting three Cowboys in. Talk to
Speaker 1: Rick Goslin, pro Football Hall of Fame voter. He said, look,
Speaker 1: you know they're not going to keep three. They'll probably
Speaker 1: get two. Jimmy was already in on Sunday. I get
Speaker 1: the call that hey, Cliff is getting in. This is
Speaker 1: before the broadcast, So at that point you knew it
Speaker 1: was either Cliff of Journey. I knew Drew wasn't getting
Speaker 1: in because Jimmy was already in. That's one I'm saying before.
Speaker 1: So when you when they say we're not letting three in,
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, now we heard it's gonna be two.
Speaker 1: So at this point you know it's got to be
Speaker 1: out of these two. Well and take take take it
Speaker 1: back to the broadcast. A third name they called was
Speaker 1: Harold Carmichael, and I said to myself, Oh, they're gonna
Speaker 1: put three receivers in. That was my initial thought. Can't
Speaker 1: put in Harold and not and Drew. That was my thought.
Speaker 1: I thought getting three, But then when I got notified
Speaker 1: about Cliff, it was like, oh, and so Drew is
Speaker 1: crossing off the names. He knows how many? How many
Speaker 1: to go? Six to go? I mean, we're doing this
Speaker 1: over three hours. And if you watched the show, you
Speaker 1: knew that David Baker had either called people or surprised people.
Speaker 1: There was never a phone call to three hours and
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. And when they called Max Speedy that
Speaker 1: was the last. That was number ten and that's the
Speaker 1: video that I had on Twitter. If you haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: go check it out an wy s c R e Ggs.
Speaker 1: You just see Drew's head drops broket, He's rubbing his head.
Speaker 1: He gets up, he walks out. Now he's wearing microphones
Speaker 1: from all four Dallas TV stations. Dallas four TV stations,
Speaker 1: and he leaves the room so we can hear it.
Speaker 1: Leazy goes in his office, curses, he's mad, he cries,
Speaker 1: we didn't put that video on. It wasn't fair. He
Speaker 1: left the room for a reason, and all of us
Speaker 1: know him, have covered him. So this was a friend.
Speaker 1: This is someone who we all respected and keep in mind.
Speaker 1: For a guy like me. I grew up watching him.
Speaker 1: I got introduced to cowboy football Starbock Pierson, Harvey Martin,
Speaker 1: ed Jones. I was living in Savannah, Georgia, and I
Speaker 1: was the big cowboy fan. I was the guy who
Speaker 1: wore the blue jersey to school. This before they really
Speaker 1: saw it was the J. C. Peter, But I got
Speaker 1: the blue because you know what, I wanted to show
Speaker 1: you that I was that bigger, bigger cowboy fan of you.
Speaker 1: I had the cowboy raincoat, the cowboy l yeah, the
Speaker 1: old the old school letter jacket that had the silver
Speaker 1: Cowboys snaps on it. Man, I was just I had
Speaker 1: a Cowboy pencil. Man, I would trade, yes, the old
Speaker 1: school NFL pencils. I would trade you five pencils for
Speaker 1: your one Cowboy pencil in class. I mean I was
Speaker 1: that guy. I mean what I wanted to be a
Speaker 1: sportscaster since I was in the fifth grade, eleven years old.
Speaker 1: Guys like Drew you know, these were these That was
Speaker 1: my team, that was what I lived. I loved cowboy football,
Speaker 1: the cowboy backpack. So this was personal. I remember when
Speaker 1: I was living in Savannah, George, my dad's station a
Speaker 1: Hunt Army Airfield. As a playoff game, They're playing Atlanta Falcons,
Speaker 1: so I got all these Falcon fans around me, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are losing in Atlanta Footon County State and
Speaker 1: it is Danny White to Drew Pearson. They win this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm in school. I am that I am worse than
Speaker 1: Danny mccraig. Okay, you probably money. I came to school
Speaker 1: that I was giving it to everybody, And when the
Speaker 1: catch happened, I cried, I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I cried. First time understands. The first time I ever
Speaker 1: met Dennis Thurman was a usc when he was assistant coach,
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, MAT's won't let you know. I
Speaker 1: watched you, man, I watched you said the catch happen.
Speaker 1: I cried and Dennis looked at me, said, you cried?
Speaker 1: You did y'all cry again? I cried, didn't, but you
Speaker 1: know what you could. We could have shared a moment
Speaker 1: and it was It's it's it's one of those solidarity things,
Speaker 1: like there's things that have happened in LSU football that
Speaker 1: you know whether or not there's a real connection there
Speaker 1: if you real if you're a real fan. People can
Speaker 1: talk about being a fan, but there's these moments that
Speaker 1: you know, I can test you. That's a cowboy moment
Speaker 1: when you saw the catch? What how did it affect you?
Speaker 1: Tears for me. Drew was on the Cowboys Super Bowl
Speaker 1: twelve winning team. He was on Super Bowl thirteen. I
Speaker 1: tell people this all the time, and I truly believe
Speaker 1: in the bottom my heart because I've talked to too
Speaker 1: many Cowboys who were on that team and played that game.
Speaker 1: When they lost Super Boll thirteen to the Steelers in Miami.
Speaker 1: They lost gold Jackets. If the Cowboys win Super Bowl thirteen,
Speaker 1: they are back to back world champions of first NFL
Speaker 1: team to win three Super Bowls. That didn't happen that day.
Speaker 1: The Steelers got they got the Jackets, the Cowboys lost Jackets,
Speaker 1: and Drew Pearson doesn't get in. He's embarrassed, he's mad,
Speaker 1: he's frustrated, he doesn't understand it. Now he becomes the
Speaker 1: only man on the nineteen seventies All Decade team not
Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Why do you
Speaker 1: think he's not into it? I go back to what
Speaker 1: I was told by by Sharene Williams and Rick Giles
Speaker 1: on two Hall of Fame voters, and they're also in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famous Media members. They were not putting
Speaker 1: three Cowboys in. And if you look at that whole list,
Speaker 1: the Centennial class, nobody's got more than two. No franchise,
Speaker 1: and you've got certain franchises like the Denver Broncos who
Speaker 1: didn't even get anybody, and they thought Randy Gradishar should
Speaker 1: have got in. So next year is the year. I
Speaker 1: can't say that. Come August, you hope that the Seniors
Speaker 1: Committee considers him one of the things that I was
Speaker 1: told is that they'll try and take the ten guys
Speaker 1: who did not get in this class and try and
Speaker 1: put them at the forefront for the Seniors Committe because
Speaker 1: there's only gonna be two. They get voted in the
Speaker 1: class of twenty two. There is there a point where
Speaker 1: you would get the filling that he won't getting in.
Speaker 1: Drew is getting in. It's not a matter of if, Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboy fan. It is a matter of
Speaker 1: win based on the very criteria that they the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame voters that put out Drew is there. You
Speaker 1: go back to the nineteen thirties and we're talking all
Speaker 1: decade first team wide receivers since the nineteen thirties, there
Speaker 1: are eighteen all eighteen, I should say seventeen of the
Speaker 1: eighteen or in Drew's not in. You put in John Stalworth,
Speaker 1: who was not first or second team. You put him
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. You put into two second
Speaker 1: team receivers from the seventies, Paul Warfield, Harold Carmichael. You
Speaker 1: put those guys in. I guess, I guess. My question
Speaker 1: goes to, so, so next year, do you do the
Speaker 1: same process right, or do you do the champagne and
Speaker 1: you do that, he said on camera. They'll never get
Speaker 1: me like this. He gotcha, He'll never do this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't want to. We none of us
Speaker 1: want to see him that. I'm saying. You know that.
Speaker 1: You know they'll be they want to see that. There
Speaker 1: will be maybe one camera in there and be y'all,
Speaker 1: yeah there's a camera, it will be me. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: NFL films, that'll be it perfect. But we don't you
Speaker 1: know it was it was. I don't even know him personally,
Speaker 1: I said down. It did an event with him, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe three or four months ago. Great guy. I've seen
Speaker 1: him in passing a lot. He always stops and talks
Speaker 1: to always upbeat, and just to see a person like
Speaker 1: that in that type of vulnerable moment and be that
Speaker 1: upset was it was upsetting to me. I actually had
Speaker 1: his autograph. Um. I came down here for the Browns
Speaker 1: game in twenty twelve as a fan and I did
Speaker 1: the whole Cowboys star thing, and so we did the
Speaker 1: tailgate right before the game. He was out there. I
Speaker 1: got his autograph. Man, I got a photo with him.
Speaker 1: So I choked up when I did my five PM
Speaker 1: broadcast because I was there. I was right there, and
Speaker 1: but I hadn't seen the video, just kind of really
Speaker 1: looked at and just watching the video and and the
Speaker 1: long hug. His girlfriend sent me a picture of us
Speaker 1: hugging because at that point in time, but you know,
Speaker 1: you know your friend is down. And I was recently
Speaker 1: in church and and and um my pastor said that
Speaker 1: what we have to do in community is carry the burdens.
Speaker 1: You know of our of our true friends, you know
Speaker 1: that you that their their pain is your pain. And
Speaker 1: so at that moment, that's what I was trying to
Speaker 1: do for my friend. You know, yes I'm doing a job,
Speaker 1: but this is still my friend. And I tried to
Speaker 1: carry it as much as I could. But to talk
Speaker 1: about the thirteen years of these conversations, and believe me, man,
Speaker 1: there were times where he just didn't think it was
Speaker 1: going to happen. And I always was, now, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And this doesn't give me the ring of bonnory. He
Speaker 1: didn't think it's gonna be like it's gonna happen. It's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. And to see one and I thought we
Speaker 1: were gonna get the second one, it hit me, and
Speaker 1: it hurt because I felt like I let him down.
Speaker 1: I felt like people in the Hall of Fame, by
Speaker 1: their own criteria, that you let this man down. So
Speaker 1: for a while it was tough. It was tough, but
Speaker 1: I bounced back, and I've told him, I said twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. So for those who are Drew Pearson fans,
Speaker 1: I will tell you, let's see what happens in August
Speaker 1: when they get that list together. And when the list
Speaker 1: comes together, then we had the opportunity to try and
Speaker 1: really kind of push the story out here one more time.
Speaker 1: And above all, let us not forget Captain Crash finally
Speaker 1: gets his bust. I mean, you're gonna tell them you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a whole all nineteen seventies, first all Decade team,
Speaker 1: and Cliff is your safety, and you don't put him there.
Speaker 1: He played in five Super Bowls, he won two of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, hello, hello, h So, so Cliff is there
Speaker 1: and he gets his spot, and he was emotional on
Speaker 1: the phone call with David Baker. He earned his spot
Speaker 1: the most emotional and it was that Jimmy Cliff was
Speaker 1: crying to was about to pass out. It was like
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson is sitting there and I think, I think
Speaker 1: Jimmy was in some ways. And this is what happens
Speaker 1: to these some of the guys who get passed over
Speaker 1: enough or just or Terrell Daves, friend of mine. The
Speaker 1: thought was I didn't have enough years to qualify, and
Speaker 1: that so many people used Miami against Jimmy. This is
Speaker 1: where having Gil Brandt, Bill Belichick helped because they understood
Speaker 1: this man. Don't look at him as just a coach.
Speaker 1: Look at the arc detect of what he was able
Speaker 1: to do. He didn't win the third, but the fingerprints
Speaker 1: are all over. And if you start to look at
Speaker 1: and I go back to just the fifties. When you
Speaker 1: think about the dominant teams of each decade, the person
Speaker 1: who was there helping as an architect was put in
Speaker 1: Paul Brown Cleveland Browns in the fifties, sixties, Vince Lombardi seventies.
Speaker 1: You've got Um, you've got head coach, Chuck Noele, You've
Speaker 1: got Dan Rooney in the Hall of Fame. You know,
Speaker 1: architects of how that team was built. Seventies, Um, Chuck Noele.
Speaker 1: But then you go in the eighties, is Bill Walsh
Speaker 1: in the forty nine Ers, he was the head coach
Speaker 1: bise also the gym. And but but just just in
Speaker 1: terms of just guys in there, Landry was, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, Landry was not first or second team head
Speaker 1: coach all nineteen seventies. Chuck Noele was second team head
Speaker 1: coach Dodd Schuli's first team. But but yeah, but just
Speaker 1: so so team of the seventies Steelers team of the
Speaker 1: it's the forty nine team of the nineties is Jimmy
Speaker 1: you know who, in the same sense was just like
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh coach architect. They were not going to let
Speaker 1: that pass. So Jimmy was getting in. And so Jimmy
Speaker 1: and Cliff Harris get in the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: deserve it spots that they get there. The two thousands
Speaker 1: of Belichick and Belichick will get in as well. So
Speaker 1: they honored that. And what what what what happened there?
Speaker 1: So for the Drew Pearson fans um, next time you
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Speaker 1: sixty nine years old, and he doesn't want to be
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Speaker 1: you tuning us in. Danny mc cray, unless you National Champion,
Speaker 1: Bill Sir? Where did unless you? Unless you's a side
Speaker 1: piece floor basically, man, if you are your girlfriend and
Speaker 1: just your main chick, if you if you watching this
Speaker 1: and you want to the please please let us know
Speaker 1: what you think about this LSU being one beat and
Speaker 1: I'm saying one beat. Folks who I work with, they're
Speaker 1: cool with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the listeners on this on this Cowboys Bob
Speaker 1: y'all man. But the sho folks who I work with,
Speaker 1: they understood, yeah, because they probably got one bees too,
Speaker 1: because you know everybody side piece. Okay, Netflix, you're always
Speaker 1: telling me what to watch on TV, and the first
Speaker 1: thing you said and watch was Aaron Nandez. Actually, I
Speaker 1: had enough people hit me up about it and just said, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, all right, I checked it out. I'm on
Speaker 1: episode two. I have not started, so don't ruin. I
Speaker 1: got through half an episode one. Okay, Wow, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you wow. Wow it was that it was
Speaker 1: put together that well, wow, probably everything, yes, put together
Speaker 1: that well. Um, what a challenged life he had, and
Speaker 1: what a sloppy crime. Okay, already an episode episode I'm
Speaker 1: in the episode two now, um, jeffsy Carlito's Way. I
Speaker 1: love the scene where after they leave the boat and
Speaker 1: Cliinfeld killed the dude and then Carlito Cliinfelder right there
Speaker 1: and he said, oh, oh, Dave, you trying to be
Speaker 1: a gangster and there ain't nothing you go to school
Speaker 1: for and you can't get a late starting line, right.
Speaker 1: Somebody needed to tell Aaron Hernandez to watch Carlito's Way Okay,
Speaker 1: you just so, So Aaron Hernandez was Dave? Was it that? Yes,
Speaker 1: Dave wasn't really against from what I've heard it, you
Speaker 1: know passed on. Was Aaron Thatez had a little bit
Speaker 1: of that in him? He didn't. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: difference between you being a football player and you got
Speaker 1: a short temper and you'll knock some dudes out versus Okay, yeah, definitely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a big difference. So so he was the football
Speaker 1: player with a short temper who tried to be the
Speaker 1: client and Carlitho, you know you're a client, fel This
Speaker 1: is not what football players do. So wait, one more question.
Speaker 1: So did he have a Carlito in there? But did
Speaker 1: he have a friend that was that guy or he
Speaker 1: wasn't even smart enough to have a Carlito? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would check it out, and I would check it out.
Speaker 1: Probably probably got Wait and I also say this, I
Speaker 1: love how to Patriots try to run away from it,
Speaker 1: like Irban Martin, it's two of your gators. Really, everybody
Speaker 1: trying to run away. You gotta disassociate yourself with something
Speaker 1: like that. Man, you be getting the phone like you
Speaker 1: had to know. It was almost like the present the
Speaker 1: other day to talk about that laft part I don't
Speaker 1: know him or that when when ran carry because he says,
Speaker 1: I don't know this dude. You interviewed them, you know,
Speaker 1: for the league. You know what it's crazy about, Aaron Hernandez.
Speaker 1: So when I worked at ESPN, which is obviously in Bristols,
Speaker 1: where he's from, I used to get my haircut by
Speaker 1: the same Barbara man trip man watch, it's definitely good.
Speaker 1: Let's touch on your Houston Astros, Danny, your hometown astrils
Speaker 1: cheating this hometown. No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: This is what knew. He let me know when to
Speaker 1: show up with Buzz, so me and knew he discussed
Speaker 1: this earlier. And I'm was it flabbergasted by fact that
Speaker 1: these dudes could possibly been out there using morrise code
Speaker 1: to tell when the fastball and when the curveballs too much. Man,
Speaker 1: I told you if you if you compared the football,
Speaker 1: that's so in the in the helmet and the quarterbacks helmet.
Speaker 1: They get a certain amount of time to call the play,
Speaker 1: and after that the coach cannot communicate with them anymore.
Speaker 1: Everything you see on the field has to be them.
Speaker 1: All the checks they make has to be them unless
Speaker 1: they get like a sign from the sideline. Right, So
Speaker 1: just imagine them being able to talk to somebody up
Speaker 1: stairs in the booth about three seconds before they snapped
Speaker 1: the ball saying, hey, this is defense. They end throw
Speaker 1: it to this person. It will be open because I'm
Speaker 1: able to see it from from up here. That is
Speaker 1: the level of cheating. The quarterback would come passes if
Speaker 1: that was the case, right, These guys are doing that
Speaker 1: in baseball, Morse goal the ability to come up with
Speaker 1: this game that they did. And for Alex Cora, bench
Speaker 1: coach with the Astros in twenty seventeen, manager of the
Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox in twenty eighteen, one World series, both
Speaker 1: World Series one over the Dodgers. The legacies that are affected.
Speaker 1: And I tell people this all the time. I've noticed
Speaker 1: this about being a sportscaster for over twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Losing affects people. Lives are written and changed when you lose.
Speaker 1: Ron Washington is looked at differently. If Josh Hamilton's home
Speaker 1: run against the Saint Louis Cardinals holds up and they
Speaker 1: win the World Series, Clayton Kershaw still looked at, Well,
Speaker 1: he can't win the big one. He didn't win twice.
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts, the manager, gets a beating. You Darvish just
Speaker 1: looked at us. Dude, you're a loser. You're a guy
Speaker 1: who didn't getting done. Carlos Veltron, by the way, played
Speaker 1: with U Darvis the Texas Rangers in twenty sixteen. He
Speaker 1: knew a lot about it. So what the Houston Astros
Speaker 1: have done in the asteris and then people who were
Speaker 1: angry at them, I mean, what about the people who
Speaker 1: were just along the way sitting down a triple A.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of guys affected by this
Speaker 1: cheating scandal. They were eight and one at home during
Speaker 1: the playoffs in that twenty seventeen World Series run. You
Speaker 1: can't tell me these baseball's told you these dudes had
Speaker 1: an edge. They're not taking the trophy, but they're letting
Speaker 1: you know these dudes had an edge. All right. I
Speaker 1: want to run out of time here, I tease it.
Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Grant Delpit, by the way, is
Speaker 1: a guy on Dame Bruger, the athletic person I respect
Speaker 1: very much when it comes to very knowledgeable yeah drafting.
Speaker 1: He thinks Grant delpat could be there for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at seventeen. I like it, um. I think that early
Speaker 1: in the season people saw saw him play a little
Speaker 1: bit and they kind of lost a little little hope
Speaker 1: in them for being that that number one safety. They
Speaker 1: kind of lost account of what he did last year.
Speaker 1: Then you find out that he's been playing hurt and
Speaker 1: still better than you know, most of the safeties up
Speaker 1: out there. And I'm so you see these last five
Speaker 1: or six games, and this guy is the guy, right,
Speaker 1: He's the guy he drops down us a seventeen and
Speaker 1: were able to get him. That's and that's the position
Speaker 1: that we want. Why not? Yeah? I like Grant um.
Speaker 1: I know. So when he came when I worked there,
Speaker 1: he came in as a freshman number one. This guy's
Speaker 1: been a three year starter, day one. So he took
Speaker 1: over for Jamal Adams immediately day one coming in. And
Speaker 1: that year they were in the transition, you because not
Speaker 1: only did they lose Jamal Adams, they also lost White.
Speaker 1: So Corey Raymond shout out to Corey Raymon, their dB coach,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure out there. So number one, he's going
Speaker 1: to be prepared. He's going to be already ready for
Speaker 1: the Pro level number one, So I think he would
Speaker 1: be a great fit here. That's just hoping that he'll
Speaker 1: be able to slide down there and do his thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you scenaris. Possible scenario be no draft
Speaker 1: day things happen. If the Jets call you and say
Speaker 1: we want a number one, you can have Jamal Adams.
Speaker 1: Now do you make the raid? And if you really
Speaker 1: are sold on delp it, would you give up? Let's
Speaker 1: say you're a third rounder to trade up to get him,
Speaker 1: because in a passing league, these are two guys. Jamal's proven,
Speaker 1: but these are two guys you know can help you football.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that if you're using the
Speaker 1: first rounder on Delpit already. No, I'm just giving you no.
Speaker 1: I'm saying so if we if we the Cowboys, we
Speaker 1: plan to get a safety in the first round, right,
Speaker 1: and the Jets called me and offer of Jamal for
Speaker 1: that first round pick, I'll take it. Okay. I like
Speaker 1: seventeen j Yeah, yeah, I like. I like Jamal is
Speaker 1: more than proven. He's that dude's a proven monster right
Speaker 1: he get out. He's an enforcer on your defense in
Speaker 1: a passing league, yes, if that, If that's my trade,
Speaker 1: I'm taking it all right now break good, good, because
Speaker 1: now I bring up the second part of it. Got
Speaker 1: to give him the contract, and you're already looking at
Speaker 1: handing out contracts possibly, so just knowing knowing it's kind
Speaker 1: of like when you make the trade for James the Ramsey.
Speaker 1: You know you're writing the check, So so do you
Speaker 1: write the check versus possibly having to give up a
Speaker 1: three to move up to get delp it? Because I'm
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, if people do their homework, they're going
Speaker 1: to see this is a guy who should be at seventeen,
Speaker 1: should be a lot higher, So you may have to
Speaker 1: give up a three to move up to get him.
Speaker 1: And then you also now have some cost control there
Speaker 1: with you. We got eighty million on the camp. We
Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff to figure out these guys.
Speaker 1: These guys have been figuring out ways to get guys paid,
Speaker 1: and they will also. They will figure it out. Right,
Speaker 1: he will play. Then they will figure out what they
Speaker 1: need to do with him. He's going to be worth
Speaker 1: the money. Like it's like, he's going to be worth
Speaker 1: whatever whatever you give up for him. He is a monster. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I would I would I agree with Danny. I would
Speaker 1: take the trade and pay that man seriously because number one,
Speaker 1: he's a leader and he's a game champions. Last time
Speaker 1: we had a game changer at the safety about Darren Wilson. Well,
Speaker 1: you want three levels of defense, your your D line,
Speaker 1: Well you got d law on one level, you got
Speaker 1: l LV and James Smith. If you already paid, get
Speaker 1: your Pro Bowl, James Smith, get you a Pro Bowl safety,
Speaker 1: Get you an All Pro safety. Get out Pro Bowl. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll get you all Pro safety. Look, and he's from Hebrew,
Speaker 1: so he's right here. He's from down the road, down
Speaker 1: not far from the Star here. So so that's the
Speaker 1: that is the conversation because the Jets apparently we're asking
Speaker 1: for two first round and second they're not getting all that.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna get all that, but they was gonna
Speaker 1: get something fun. And the cowboy's gonna have to pay
Speaker 1: that contract anyway, so you may as well go ahead
Speaker 1: and get it done. She was already. But I think
Speaker 1: that's a definite conversation I would be having in the room.
Speaker 1: Del put Adams. I think you get one of these two,
Speaker 1: get one of these two, and would be at all man.
Speaker 1: I would say, man, but a really good player, young
Speaker 1: guy three three year starter, three years, didn't miss blest
Speaker 1: a little bit. You're you're going to get you. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say you're going to You should one of the two.
Speaker 1: You get one of the two, You're gonna be okay,
Speaker 1: good start, good start for defense. Then build sitting instruction.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to your team one one d Danny, Congratulations Tigers
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