WEBVTT - Bart Scott Talks Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall & TNF Jets vs. Browns (12/26) 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.120 Official Jets podcast is presented by Winning Bet Betty's a 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.600 team sport bet together at went Pat Eric Gallen here 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.720 at one Juts Drive the day after Christmas, joined by 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:17.800 the Mad Backers always Bart Scott in parts unknown, Bart, 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:19.239 how was your Christmas? 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:20.599 It was good? 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:22.840 You know, Christmas isn't really for the dads. It's like 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.600 a tiring day. But you know it's built for the kids. 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:27.680 Our parents did it for us, so it's good for 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:29.400 us to do it for them, you know what I mean. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.200 I can see you still didn't have enough Christmas egg nog? 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:33.880 You know, how is it for you and the kids 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:35.880 and stuff like that. I think mine's are a little 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:37.479 older than yours, so I don't have to wake up 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:38.200 at six am. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.080 Oh yeah, man, I just running on empty right now. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:42.879 But that's fine. You just keep on running, just as 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:43.360 long as. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.240 You're moving like Dory, right, just keep swimming. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.520 That's right, Okay, So let's go back to Christmas Eve. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:55.520 The New York Posts ran an article Brian Costello Woody 0:00:55.600 --> 0:01:00.000 Johnson quoted as saying, my decision is keep both Robert 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.640 and Joe Douglas. Of course, I think we've made some 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.720 very positive moves. The culture of the team is a 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.480 lot better. Defense is better. The offense just needs a 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:09.720 few pieces your reaction. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.319 I mean, we all knew that that was the case. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:14.000 That was the reality. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.800 There's no way that you go out and Aaron Rodgers 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.080 comes to you based on the people that you brought in, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.360 based on solid based on Joe Douglas. We knew that 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.200 now Aaron Rodger would played all year and it would 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.560 look like crap. Then you blow it up, but you 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.080 don't even know what it looks like. And hopefully you 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.360 can be able to convince guys to come over and 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.360 we'll see what the Aaron Rodgers effect is. Like I 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.679 said before, we never got a chance to really see 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.080 what the Aaron Rodgers effect was because he signed and 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.000 the deal was done so late. So let's see if 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.120 he has like that type of magnetic appeal to be 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.440 able to attract, you know, people around the league that 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.720 just wants to win championships. And when I say that, 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.000 I mean hired guns. I mean come here and stack 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.880 in the debt. But it's going to start with the draft, 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.000 and they have to do a really good job in 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:01.080 bringing in some linemen and being able to fix that 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.280 situation because that doesn't you know, vote well, if you 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.480 talk about any of the teams that's playing well and 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.440 we give a legitimate chance to win the Super Bowl, 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.359 it's teams with good offensive lines. The Jets have an 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.600 enormous amount of work to do in that regard. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.040 All right, let's address Joe Douglas first. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.480 For my money, the Jets had a top five roster 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.920 heading get into this season with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.840 I think what he's right, There are a lot of 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.639 pieces in place, correct. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:29.760 Yeah, but I don't know if it was top five, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.320 and it's because of the offensive line. When you think 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.600 of it, you think about the Baltimore Ravens, you think 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.440 about San Francisco forty nine ers, think about the Eagles, 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:43.440 you think about the Los Angeles Chargers as well. You 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.160 look at, you know, the roster. I would put them 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.480 probably top ten, maybe maybe twelve or something like that, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.720 because Dallas has a tremendous roster. Buffalo Bills has a 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.440 tremendous roster, you know, but they have to go out 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.160 against a piece. Now, what they do is when you 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.120 think about the youth, if you put in the youth 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.400 and to that equation you say, okay, well, some guys 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.320 that are going to continue to develop. Quincy Williams, you know, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.400 stepping up. Michael Carter's playing at a high level. You 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.480 think about Breice Hall, you talk about Bryce Hunt. These 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.880 all guys that you drafted that weren't expected to play. 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.360 At the level on which they're playing at. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.359 So when you look at that regard, I would say 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.200 that they were probably top twelve in the league. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.000 But in the pivotal places. 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:25.760 They really have to find a way to keep guys 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.519 that Vera Tucker had healthy. They have to try and 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.000 hit on another. They got to find another Joe Tipman. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.799 They got to go out and free agency and try 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.680 and see if they can improve this roster from an 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.720 offensive line standpoint. To me, that's the glaring weakness that 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.920 and wide receiver. So when you think about what they're 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.840 talking about how to improve this team offensive line, you 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.040 need three studs that you can put in there. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.760 And kind of fill those voids. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.040 And you have to definitely get a number two receiver 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.200 because right now they don't have a number two receiver 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:54.800 on this roster. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.440 I know, you really hied Joe Tipman and hopefully Elijah 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:02.600 Vera Tucker comes back under because He is a great ballplayer, 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.920 and it makes such a difference when he's on the field. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:09.240 Let's talk about the advancements you've seen under Robert Sala. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:14.040 The first year that was a complete roster teardown. Obviously, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.920 last year you take a step win seven games. This year, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.159 you went in an offseason saying we need a veteran quarterback. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.520 They go out and get a four time NFL MVP. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.320 He goes down after four plays. With that being said, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.000 defense very good, one of the better units in the 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.599 National Football League. You've talked about what they need offensively, 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.360 but what do you make of the way Sala has 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.160 things working on the coaching side. 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.000 I mean, I think you talk about the deferense side 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:43.320 of the ball. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.760 I mean I think you look at the dominance, and 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.760 that's not even with a competent offense. They can play 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.000 with the lead, right, they haven't been able to have 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.680 them games like the Dallas Cowboys have had where they have. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.320 The lead and then they can go out to hunt. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.800 They've pretty much been in tough ball games where teams 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.240 had the option to be able to run the ball, 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.520 pass the ball. They haven't been able to really have 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.599 those games where teams are one dimensional where these guys 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.320 can pin their ears back and just hit you with 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.440 waves and waves a pass rush. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.479 You know, hopefully next year that'll change. You Know. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.760 One thing that I think the entire league has been 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.960 put on notice is the fact that you have to 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.280 have a competent backup. You see that with Jacoby Brissett 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.520 coming back and almost bringing the Washington Commanders back, and 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.000 before on the pregame show that I do, I said 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.240 that Jacoby Brissette would be my pick before the game 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.040 even started, and he showed you the professionalism in which 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.799 he can come in and at age thirty one, who knows, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.920 maybe he gets a second chance to be able to 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.040 get an opportunity to start. You know, once Aaron Rodgers 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.839 era has left and become one of these guys like 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.599 Geno Smith that gets a rebirth late in his career 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.400 because you know what you're going to get out of him, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.720 and when you have the other pieces around him like 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.720 you do, you may be able to get away with 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.240 not having a two hundred million dollars quarterback. 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.760 What's in the water that Priest Hall is drinking, Buddy, 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.800 you're talking about a guy coming off in acl last 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.839 week against Washington in that win nearly one hundred yards receiving, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:09.960 nearly one hundred yards rushing, and despite playing against loaded 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.960 boxes throughout the season, the guy's averaging close to four 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.159 and a half yards per carry. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.440 Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing, right, you know, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.360 for the first time they show commitment to bris Hall. Right, 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.360 Breshaw should never leave a game where he has less 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:28.120 than twenty rush attempts and maybe ten pass attempts, like 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.880 he should be the workload the same way that Garrett 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:31.640 Wilson gets that. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.000 Workload and he gets thirteen fourteen attempts. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.480 You should also, you know, give that to him, much 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.640 like you know San Francisco Use McCaffrey. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.159 You know what I mean. You have to get this 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.240 guy touches in him. If you can get him in space. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.800 You know, you see guys making business decisions because when 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.040 he gets in space, he's hard to bring down. Not 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.120 that he's some super loosive guy. He has that those 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.760 gears that he can hit where he's you know, maybe 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.080 in third, but then he can go to fourth gear 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.920 and really accelerate pass a lot of people. So you 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.400 have to get him the ball and find ways to 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.599 get him the ball and get him touches to wear 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.000 the defense down, and I thought they did that. And 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.440 that's what that's the benefits of what you see, like 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.679 the fact that he's a premium back in his league 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.200 and be coming into the game he only had one 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.520 hundred and fifty carries. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.600 Right, He's a guy that should be way over that. Right. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.160 We understand that the mark that we never want to 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.160 get to with a running back is four hundred. We've 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.760 seen the data on running backs. What happens to him 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.120 the following year? If they have four hundred rushes, he 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.960 should be somewhere around two point fifty. Right now, he's 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:30.840 a hundred, he's a hundred carries short. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.360 What's his potential with Rogers? Rogers coming back and again 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.800 you said, hey, listen, in an offseason you get some 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:42.120 more targets around Garrett Wilson, but specifically Breese. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.440 What's his potential with the guy like eight back there? 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.600 I mean, he should be a fourteen hundred yards of 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.120 carrying the football and then he should be sitting right 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.920 there at like five thirty in pass attempts. And you 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.000 look at it, that's two hundred two thousand yards of productivity. 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.880 You know, five hundred five plus you know in the air, 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.160 fourteen hundred on the ground. I mean that's just a 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.440 regular you know, averaging slightly you know, under one hundred 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.600 yards rushing the game, and you know, you look at 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.400 it like he should be getting at least twenty to 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:15.360 thirty yards, you know, receiving the ball, you know, with 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.320 a guy like Aaron Rodgers, because you're gonna get favorble 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.080 match ups, because you're going to be able to slip 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.080 him out and make him a hot route, because you're 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:22.560 going to be able to get him, you know, on 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.280 will routs and pick routes and things like that. So, 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.080 I mean, when you look at it, to me, there's 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.320 been a lot of comparisons to who Brice Hall is. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.760 I think Brece Hall is, you know, a prime you know, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.760 Matt Forte in Chicago. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.000 We all know what that looked like. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.440 We often talk about receivers reaching a thousand yards and say, hey, 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.320 that's not a big accomplishment in today's league, seventeen game seasons, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:51.440 passing league. But can we give a ton of kudos 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.400 out there to Garrett Wilson when teams know that the 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.640 Jets going to try to get him the football and 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.840 he's got a chance to get there this week against 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.440 the Cleveland Browns. He's played with four different quarterbacks again 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:04.000 this year. 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.360 Yeah, when you think about it, you know, he gets 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.040 the hardest sixty to seventy yards receiving out of anybody 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.480 in football, and it's almost not fair to him. And 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.719 that's why priority number one or priority number two has 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.839 to be getting him at Robin. It has to be 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.920 getting him somebody on the opposite side. We watched a 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.400 great game last night in between two of the best 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.080 teams in football, between the Baltimore Ravens and the San 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.560 Francisco forty nine ers. And when you look out there, 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.440 you see z Flowers, who has a lot of the 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.920 tools that Garrett Wilson has. Maybe a little you know, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.840 you know, because of his height, is a little bit 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.120 more quick as far as getting the ball in his hands. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.200 But you know, Garrett Wilson is electric with the ball 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.360 in his hands and short pass as well. But he 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.319 has you know, Rashon Bateman, who's the first round draft pick. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.920 He has Odell Beckham who's a first round draft pick. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.880 He has Nelson Aguilar who's a first round draft pick. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.319 And then you know, when when healthy, you know, you 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.480 have Mark Andrews on the other side. Then you go 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.280 to the other side and you look at Deebo Samuels 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.840 and you're like, okay, well he has Brandon Ayuk. He 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.200 has a guy like Kittles, right, he also has you know, 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:07.360 you know McCaffrey. 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.440 Who acts as a receiver as well. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.080 So like it's no secret, right, we're putting too much 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.160 on Garrett Wilson actsing to be Superman every play and 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.880 somebody has to you know, step forward. And if it's 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.800 not on the roster right now, they say a guy 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.360 can take the next step and graduate, then they have 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.080 to go out and they have to get somebody that 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.320 takes some of the pressure off of him because he's 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.719 throwing and catch the ball into crowded, crowded space and 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.520 taking a pounding and you know his body's not gonna 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.000 hold up, you know, for five years at this pace. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.280 With that being said, how much do you appreciate his 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.320 toughness and the physicality he plays with in that mindset, 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:46.200 he's a dog every time he's out there. He never 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.400 gives up on a play. You rarely see him stepping 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.959 out of bounds. He's always trying to get that extra 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.440 inch and then after the play, I know, you got 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:55.160 to appreciate this. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.520 He's in guys faces absolutely. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.720 I mean I think you just saw you the competitive 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.880 nature that he has. And we know what this pedigree is, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.000 coming from a program in college in Ohio state that 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.520 you know, was always contender to win a championship and 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.200 he has that championship mentality and he's trying to get 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.760 that filling back and like I said, we have to. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.840 We have to do a better job in helping him. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.600 So I mean, in my opinion, you know, outside of 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:25.040 making some cunning moves maybe bringing Jordan white Head back 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.560 or you know, signing Chuck Clark to a one year deal, Yeah, 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.320 they have to you know, go in in the off 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.240 season where all their attention is paid strictly to the offense. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.520 Jets fans, we're in our final push and the clock 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.319 is ticking. 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That's 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.360 why he's on the active roster, and it made a 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:38.000 lot of sense. 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.080 Yeah, it makes a tremendous amount of sense, right because 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.880 he wasn't able, you know, because of the Jets being 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.040 out of you know, postseason play contention to be able 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:50.839 to go out there and play and see it through. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.040 But you can continue to build and work you know, 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.880 on the on the on the football field, and I 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.520 think a lot of people don't think didn't realize that 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.400 if you didn't put him up, he wouldn't be able 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.840 to practice. So a lot of people that's the casual 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.360 fans that don't really understand the business side of football, 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.440 you can't fault them for that, but everybody within a 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.640 football space understood what it was all about and why 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:13.360 it was important. 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.640 You mentioned Quincy Williams before. What's been the keys in 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.359 terms of him becoming one of the most complete linebackers 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.160 in the National Football League? And also, is this guy 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:26.200 definitely a Pro Bowler. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.000 It's gonna be tough, man, because a lot of times 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.439 when you think about the Pro Bowl, it comes down 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:37.200 to record, right and people you know, see people in 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.840 meaningful games. You know who knows if Patrick Queen because 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.960 you know Patrick Queen and you know and ray Kwan 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.959 Smith gets in. So it makes it tough from that standpoint. 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.160 I don't know what other linebackers are really going, but 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.080 you know a lot of times he'll get in, pray 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.920 me as an alternate, and then he'll be able to 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.040 get in and play in the game and be able 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.719 to be there with his brother. He's earned the right 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.640 and earned the fact. But traditionally in football, the year 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.280 that you do it, you don't get in. You get 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:08.280 in the following year. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:09.080 Right. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.440 That's why guys like CJ. Mosey who has the brand 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.760 recognition as well. You know, maybe the player that that 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.120 that keeps him out of the Pro Bowl because of 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:22.440 the brand recognition and the ranking of the defense. But 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:27.200 he's definitely deserving of that award. I mean, he's played 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:31.440 his ass off. You know, you have to really applaud 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.680 what he's done. But usually how this work says, you know, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.000 they people look at the record, then they look at 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.640 who's planning. You know, this is the year to get 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.200 in because it gets only harder next year when you 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.840 think about guys like Milano coming back who plays at 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.280 a high level, and you know CJ continue to play 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.480 at a high level, Ray Kwon Smith who's been a 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.840 perennial pro bowler, but you know, he just got to 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.720 keep going about his business. And people got to understand 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.560 that we all eat when the team has success. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:14:59.480 You know you don't. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.920 You may have less, you know, he may have worse 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.560 statistics next year, but because the team is doing well, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.880 get voted in. But he should really take a ball 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.560 and the Jets should be applauded for finding his diamond 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.000 in a rough which was basically another man's trash and 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.200 they made a treasure. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.680 Where's he gotten most improved. 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:25.000 And his his his play recognition, his recognition and understanding personnel, understanding, 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:29.480 splits understanding, because it wasn't it was never about what 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.040 he can do in a run game. You know, we 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:32.800 knew he was like a hit stick, you know what 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.640 I mean on that side of the ball. But you know, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.920 really impressed with his man and man coverage, with his 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:41.560 speed and his agility. But also for me, the hardest 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.760 thing to do is to work well with others and 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.400 being able how to pass routes and understand combinations and 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.240 when you're being high lowed when to carry and then 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.520 drop and then find the other guy coming to your zone. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.960 Because gods do you know things. You know, teams try 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.960 and give you what we call take the cheese. They'll 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:00.520 put that cheese in front of you that you step 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:01.920 up and you put a lot of stress on the 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.480 safeties behind. He's done a great job and being able 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.040 to play from high to low and past the combinations. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.400 You know, I've talked about it a couple of times, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.760 you know, and just I can think of numerous praise 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.160 plays that I've broken down where you know, it's high 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.560 level communication and that's something when Styler first came in 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.600 that the that the team struggled with he especially on 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.520 the back end, with dropping certain players and you know, 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.240 not having the communication and all seeing the big picture. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.240 You know, he sees the big picture. He should be 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:28.880 applauded for that. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.880 Speaking about seeing the big picture, how about Sauce Gardener? 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:39.120 Another game, another game without anybody getting anything dawn against him? 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:40.520 What is. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.000 Can you talk about him just being a technician? Everybody 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:49.720 talks about his athleticism bart which obviously he's rare in 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.520 net regard and. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.720 He's cool as yeah, he's cool as as that, but 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.920 he's a linky guy. You wouldn't say that he was 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.400 like the most athletic as far as shifting. He's just 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.520 so smart, crafty and I think no play you know, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:03.280 was a greater example of that. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.200 Then you know him, you know, coming with. 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.960 Scary Terry on the scramble drill, right, that's the patience, 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:14.640 that's that's anticipation, that's on fluidity and that's finished and acceleration. 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:16.320 You know, to be able to stay on the back 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.160 hip to make sure you don't make him go across 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.479 gear down when he gears down, and anticipate that he's 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.200 gonna pivot out, understand that the quarterback is gonna look 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.080 for him in the scramble drill, be able to have 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.760 to scramble drill still stay in the back hip, and 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.120 then be able to celerate and use that tremendous limp. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:30.600 You know. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.159 So that's that, That was everything that Sauce brings to 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.880 the table. That's unique. Usually you see a guy with 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:36.760 one or two of those. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.800 It's rare. It's very rare that you see guys with 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:40.560 all three. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.040 Right, you can say him and Patricks are tang you 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.320 can just pencil them in for you know, starting Pro 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.000 bowlers are all pros like pretty much every single season, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.040 and I mean last year it was it was a 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:55.280 debate who was better Sauce or Tarig Wooling. And I 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.960 think this year, you know, Saw showed you that his 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.600 levels to this. Just because they're both tall, linky and 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.360 fast doesn't mean that they're the same. You know, one 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.520 is an impossible not saying that Wooland is not a 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:10.000 tremendous talent, but it's levels to this and Sauces, you know, definitely, 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.560 you always can make the argument top five and as 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.720 some of these guys start to graduate out and start 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.320 to decline. You know when when you talk about that, 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.120 when I say that, I talk about guys like Big 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.000 Place Sleigh. You know, Bradberry's taking a step back. Some 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.359 of the guys that we have penciled in is like 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.400