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Speaker 1: Official Jets podcast is presented by Winning Bet Betty's a

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Speaker 1: team sport bet together at went Pat Eric Gallen here

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Speaker 1: at one Juts Drive the day after Christmas, joined by

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Speaker 1: the Mad Backers always Bart Scott in parts unknown, Bart,

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Speaker 1: how was your Christmas?

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Speaker 2: It was good?

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Speaker 3: You know, Christmas isn't really for the dads. It's like

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Speaker 3: a tiring day. But you know it's built for the kids.

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Speaker 3: Our parents did it for us, so it's good for

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Speaker 3: us to do it for them, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I can see you still didn't have enough Christmas egg nog?

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Speaker 3: You know, how is it for you and the kids

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I think mine's are a little

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Speaker 3: older than yours, so I don't have to wake up

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Speaker 3: at six am.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, I just running on empty right now.

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Speaker 4: But that's fine. You just keep on running, just as

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Speaker 4: long as.

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Speaker 2: You're moving like Dory, right, just keep swimming.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, So let's go back to Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: The New York Posts ran an article Brian Costello Woody

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Speaker 1: Johnson quoted as saying, my decision is keep both Robert

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Speaker 1: and Joe Douglas. Of course, I think we've made some

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Speaker 1: very positive moves. The culture of the team is a

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Speaker 1: lot better. Defense is better. The offense just needs a

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Speaker 1: few pieces your reaction.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we all knew that that was the case.

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Speaker 2: That was the reality.

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Speaker 3: There's no way that you go out and Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: comes to you based on the people that you brought in,

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Speaker 3: based on solid based on Joe Douglas. We knew that

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Speaker 3: now Aaron Rodger would played all year and it would

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Speaker 3: look like crap. Then you blow it up, but you

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Speaker 3: don't even know what it looks like. And hopefully you

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Speaker 3: can be able to convince guys to come over and

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Speaker 3: we'll see what the Aaron Rodgers effect is. Like I

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Speaker 3: said before, we never got a chance to really see

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Speaker 3: what the Aaron Rodgers effect was because he signed and

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Speaker 3: the deal was done so late. So let's see if

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Speaker 3: he has like that type of magnetic appeal to be

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Speaker 3: able to attract, you know, people around the league that

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Speaker 3: just wants to win championships. And when I say that,

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Speaker 3: I mean hired guns. I mean come here and stack

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Speaker 3: in the debt. But it's going to start with the draft,

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Speaker 3: and they have to do a really good job in

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Speaker 3: bringing in some linemen and being able to fix that

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Speaker 3: situation because that doesn't you know, vote well, if you

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Speaker 3: talk about any of the teams that's playing well and

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Speaker 3: we give a legitimate chance to win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: it's teams with good offensive lines. The Jets have an

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Speaker 3: enormous amount of work to do in that regard.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's address Joe Douglas first.

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Speaker 1: For my money, the Jets had a top five roster

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Speaker 1: heading get into this season with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think what he's right, There are a lot of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know if it was top five,

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Speaker 3: and it's because of the offensive line. When you think

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Speaker 3: you think about the Los Angeles Chargers as well. You

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Speaker 3: because Dallas has a tremendous roster. Buffalo Bills has a

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Speaker 3: think about the youth, if you put in the youth

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Speaker 3: think about Breice Hall, you talk about Bryce Hunt. These

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Speaker 3: all guys that you drafted that weren't expected to play.

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Speaker 2: At the level on which they're playing at.

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Speaker 3: So when you look at that regard, I would say

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Speaker 2: But in the pivotal places.

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Speaker 3: They really have to find a way to keep guys

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Speaker 1: I know, you really hied Joe Tipman and hopefully Elijah

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the advancements you've seen under Robert Sala.

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Speaker 1: The first year that was a complete roster teardown. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: last year you take a step win seven games. This year,

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Speaker 1: you went in an offseason saying we need a veteran quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They go out and get a four time NFL MVP.

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Speaker 1: He goes down after four plays. With that being said,

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Speaker 1: but what do you make of the way Sala has

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Speaker 3: I mean I think you look at the dominance, and

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Speaker 2: The lead and then they can go out to hunt.

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Speaker 3: They've pretty much been in tough ball games where teams

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Speaker 2: You know, hopefully next year that'll change. You Know.

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Speaker 3: One thing that I think the entire league has been

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Speaker 3: before on the pregame show that I do, I said

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Speaker 1: What's in the water that Priest Hall is drinking, Buddy,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy coming off in acl last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: Breshaw should never leave a game where he has less

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Speaker 3: he should be the workload the same way that Garrett

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Speaker 2: Workload and he gets thirteen fourteen attempts.

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Speaker 3: You should also, you know, give that to him, much

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You have to get this

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Speaker 2: Right, He's a guy that should be way over that. Right.

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Speaker 3: We understand that the mark that we never want to

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Speaker 1: What's his potential with Rogers? Rogers coming back and again

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Speaker 1: you said, hey, listen, in an offseason you get some

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Speaker 1: more targets around Garrett Wilson, but specifically Breese.

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Speaker 4: What's his potential with the guy like eight back there?

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Speaker 3: I mean, he should be a fourteen hundred yards of

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Speaker 3: look at it, that's two hundred two thousand yards of productivity.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when you look at it, to me, there's

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Speaker 3: I think Brece Hall is, you know, a prime you know,

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Speaker 2: We all know what that looked like.

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Speaker 1: We often talk about receivers reaching a thousand yards and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's not a big accomplishment in today's league, seventeen game seasons,

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Speaker 1: passing league. But can we give a ton of kudos

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Speaker 1: out there to Garrett Wilson when teams know that the

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Speaker 1: he's got a chance to get there this week against

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. He's played with four different quarterbacks again

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you think about it, you know, he gets

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Speaker 3: the hardest sixty to seventy yards receiving out of anybody

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Speaker 3: that's why priority number one or priority number two has

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Speaker 3: to be getting him at Robin. It has to be

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Speaker 3: getting him somebody on the opposite side. We watched a

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Speaker 3: But you know, Garrett Wilson is electric with the ball

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough, man, because a lot of times

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Speaker 3: That's why guys like CJ. Mosey who has the brand

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Speaker 2: You know you don't.

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Speaker 3: You may have less, you know, he may have worse

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Speaker 4: Where's he gotten most improved.

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Speaker 3: He's cool as yeah, he's cool as as that, but

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Speaker 3: Right, you can say him and Patricks are tang you

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Speaker 1: This is one of the best years I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: ten and five and the Jets are gonna see old

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Speaker 1: Fred Joe Flacco on the other side this week.

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Speaker 3: And Joe Flacco is the perfect person for Skavanski's offense,

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Speaker 3: right you talk about not boots, like where the guy's

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Speaker 3: faking it and going out. You're talking about throwbacks where

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Speaker 3: they're half boots and he's sitting in the pocket and

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Speaker 3: he can just flick that ball with two fingers and

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Speaker 3: take deep shots down the field. You talk about Amari Cooper,

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Speaker 3: who's always been one of the best route runners, always competitive,

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Speaker 3: stocky built, kind of like Steve Smith type of receiver

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Speaker 3: that you know he can throw you off of him.

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Speaker 3: He's bigger than you than you think. And then on

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Speaker 3: the outside of the old faithful Elijah Moore. But the

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Speaker 3: problem is in Joku because he's a guy that's really

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Speaker 3: playing at a high level.

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Speaker 2: Come to life with Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: Because of Joe Flacco's ability to throw the ball fifty

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Speaker 3: sixty yards on the field, you know, without even eye

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Speaker 3: you have to worry about those big chunk plays that

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Speaker 3: they get. And Joe flacko almost thought for four hundred

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Speaker 3: yards and sitting down and then coming back, having to

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Speaker 3: come back. It's just the tip of the iceberg. He

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Speaker 3: can still do that at a high level. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to get Joe office spot and have to get there.

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Speaker 3: But to do that, they have to go through one

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Speaker 3: of the most diabolical line coaches in all of football,

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Speaker 3: who has creative ways, who has creative ways of moving

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Speaker 3: the pocket just slightly for Joe, but then also making

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Speaker 3: sure that they have that turn protection that's tough to

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Speaker 3: get through, you know what I mean. So it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a hell of a challenge on a short week.

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Speaker 3: You know, in the dog Pound they're won ten games

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Speaker 3: and you know, talk about being on your fourth quarterback

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Speaker 3: and that's why you talk about how valuable the backup

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Speaker 3: quarterback is. And idly enough, Joe Flacco didn't make the call.

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Speaker 4: He just came full circle. Just flip it.

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Speaker 1: Thirty seconds Jets offensively against this defense, the Browns break it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kay has been struggling.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have to find a way to to find

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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. But then it's not a playoff if you're

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Speaker 3: able to contain Miles Garrett. Darriet Smith on the other side,

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Speaker 3: it's a guy that has played very well in this

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Speaker 3: in this league and plays at a high level as well.

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Speaker 2: And then Dalvin Tomlinson in the middle.

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Speaker 3: But also, you know, you think about Garrett Wilson, He's

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Speaker 3: gonna have his hands full of Newsom Newsom.

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Speaker 2: It's their version of sauce. He plays at a very

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Speaker 2: high level.

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Speaker 3: He's announced itself as an elite corner for the last

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Speaker 3: couple of seasons, one of the best defense, if not

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Speaker 3: the best defense in all the football.

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Speaker 1: Barry Christmas brother will see it next week. I think

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Speaker 1: it might be the new year.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, you go get you some more egg now.

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Speaker 3: I guess you can drink now. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: be Christmas man.

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Speaker 2: Take your power. That