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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to Tech Stuff. I'm Jonathan Sickland and joining

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<v Speaker 1>me in the studio, a true celebrity man among men.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark stuff, you should know. I want to apologize

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<v Speaker 1>in advance. I'm not feeling very charming today. It's okay, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>It's all right. I mean because Josh at A three

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<v Speaker 1>is like normal human, like an eight point oh go on.

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<v Speaker 1>That was nice. I gave Josh, of course, the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to pick a topic for, you know, something that we

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<v Speaker 1>could cover here on tech Stuff, and we were just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bandying about ideas and you actually keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with one of the most basic pieces of technology that

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<v Speaker 1>we're all familiar with, we've all used, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>somehow never covered it in the near seven hundred episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of Tech Stuff. I'll bet you've covered them before. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just not on the show. Uh six episodes. This is

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<v Speaker 1>episode I feel very honored to be on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, congratulations, thank you, thank you. Yeah. So we

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<v Speaker 1>are talking a mount toilets today. Yeah, it's gonna be uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this episode is going to be flush with puns. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't take this alright, and I know it's bad already, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so before I really get into that, you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>will obviously be some levity in this, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a very serious topic. And to kind of illustrate that,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention something else. Now this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is half a year away from us, but November nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>is World Toilet Day, which at first sounds kind of comedic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's hilarious. It sounds funny. It's it's an

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<v Speaker 1>event hosted by the World Toilet Organization. Still sounds at

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<v Speaker 1>first when you think about it, because I mean, toilet

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<v Speaker 1>humor has become like a real it's a real industry

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<v Speaker 1>into itself. But this is not about humor. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of the day, and the purpose of the

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<v Speaker 1>organization is to help provide support for getting proper sanitation

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<v Speaker 1>to the world's population. According to that organization, of the

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<v Speaker 1>world's population still practices open defecation. That's a billion people.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I knew a lot of people, did I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize it was that high a percentage. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a figure back in I think two thousand nine

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<v Speaker 1>that was two point five billion people. So clearly we've

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<v Speaker 1>made some great strides in in raising sanitation levels, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's still so much work to be done. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this is obviously something that we have to be

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with because it can lead to you know, pandemics

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<v Speaker 1>or at least a really bad outbreak of disease, not

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<v Speaker 1>to mention just unpleasant living condition. Well, you know what's

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<v Speaker 1>funny is um. I think part of it also is

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<v Speaker 1>not just that people practice open defecation, but that the

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them don't have access to sanitary drinking

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<v Speaker 1>water as a result of their of their waste disposal. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have there are places, especially in um parts

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<v Speaker 1>of rural India, where open defecation is practiced where the

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<v Speaker 1>people are like you can put toilets in here all

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<v Speaker 1>day long, we're not going to use them because we

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<v Speaker 1>find open defecation as part of like wholesome country living

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<v Speaker 1>is the way that I've seen it put like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just part and parcel with being outside and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>watching a squirrel run past you while you're pooping, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, and like really taken in the whole scene.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a cultural thing at that point. Yeah, where it

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<v Speaker 1>goes beyond, it goes beyond, like it's it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>just the lack of facilities. This has become a way

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<v Speaker 1>of life. I could understand that. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 1>there was even some reluctance in Japan to go from

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<v Speaker 1>the UH the more trough like toilets that they used to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's much smaller percentage of the toilets in Japan

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<v Speaker 1>are those, but they still do exist. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a large UH hesitate to use the word, movement trend

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<v Speaker 1>to going toward more Western style toilets over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years. I know, I'm sorry, it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Palette is only here in spirit, but he is here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're channeling him pretty hard. Yeah, so let's go with

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<v Speaker 1>a little history lesson before we get into how toilets

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<v Speaker 1>actually work. Now, if you're looking for the earliest evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of organized waste management systems, you look at Mesopotamia, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense because that's where the original civilizations were. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also a great Bifo song, But this would be

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<v Speaker 1>back at the c E around approximately around that era,

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<v Speaker 1>when you would see these organized systems for waste management.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I thought was really interesting was I watched

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary about a Neolithic village that was on the

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<v Speaker 1>Orkney Islands, uh in Scotland. Um, we call it scare Bray.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the name we've given it. Because any actual records

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<v Speaker 1>of this village haven't existed for more than a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of thousand years. This village was forgotten. No one knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was even there until there was a major storm

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<v Speaker 1>that washed away some of the land that had grown

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<v Speaker 1>up built up around on top of the village. Is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when it was discovered, you immediately had a and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an expedition, let's say, to uncover the village,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was not led by anyone who's ever been

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<v Speaker 1>actually identified. In other words, it was treasure hunters. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't probably didn't find anything really of value there. There

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<v Speaker 1>was certainly no you know, hordes of gold and diamonds

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<v Speaker 1>and jewels there. Uh. And it wouldn't be until the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties that a more or an eye archaeological dig

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<v Speaker 1>would take place. And after that there was another storm

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<v Speaker 1>and they had to actually shore up the area to

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<v Speaker 1>protect it as an archaeological site. And what they found

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<v Speaker 1>was that this tiny village, which dates to around three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand BC, in Scotland had these homes that were very sophisticated.

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<v Speaker 1>You would walk in there'd be a large bed on

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<v Speaker 1>the right hand side, a smaller bed on the left,

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<v Speaker 1>which mirrors regular practices of the time where the husband

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<v Speaker 1>and wife. The husband would have the larger of two beds.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a fire pit hearth, but they also had

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<v Speaker 1>a essentially a toilet. They had a stone cabinet with

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<v Speaker 1>a hole cut so that you could sit down on it,

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<v Speaker 1>with channels that lead out to the ocean, and ocean

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<v Speaker 1>water with the tides would actually flush this. So these

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<v Speaker 1>were flushing toilets. They weren't manual flush title flush, so

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<v Speaker 1>you had to wait, hey it's still flushed. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the important point in this took the waste away, right Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so all the way back to three thousand BC. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the actual the whole area of scare breaks fascinating, So

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<v Speaker 1>definitely look into that a get a chance. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen him before. I've seen just the settlement pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of the settlement. It is pretty advanced. You don't think

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<v Speaker 1>of the Orkney Islands and three thousand b C. Is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the seed of civilization technology. But yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>had something going on. It's pretty surprising, yeah, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I think of of society civilization in

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<v Speaker 1>the British Islands, I'm thinking closer to the Roman times.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's pretty amazing how sophisticated was even back then. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Ancient Greeks also they used sewage systems to channel waste

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<v Speaker 1>away from living quarters. The Romans went even further. They

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<v Speaker 1>would have these, especially if you were a very wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>or powerful Roman, you might have a pretty styling you know, bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>heated seats, heated marble seats, um. And it maybe private

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<v Speaker 1>from what I understood, but for the most part, public

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<v Speaker 1>bathrooms really took the public thing to the nth degree,

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<v Speaker 1>where it was just like basically a long bench with

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<v Speaker 1>different cutouts, you know, space not very far apart frankly, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'd have maybe eight or ten, maybe fifteen. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw there was a public restroom in Syria UM that

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<v Speaker 1>I think was contemporaneous to to Greece UM that sat

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty and there's no partitions, there's no nothing, And

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed to be um kind of a social endeavor

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<v Speaker 1>where like you just sit there and chat with somebody

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<v Speaker 1>while you're pooping. Yeah, it's kind of funny to think

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<v Speaker 1>about how it was this communal social activity, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least it wasn't separated from any of the communal and

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<v Speaker 1>social activities, whereas today we have all these unspoken rules

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<v Speaker 1>of of you know, no talking in the bathroom, you

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<v Speaker 1>keep your dirty behavior to yourself. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever seen it. There's actually if I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Shinama cartoon using them. I think it's the sims where

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<v Speaker 1>it's to illustrate the rules in the men's restroom, and

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<v Speaker 1>rule number one is if there's a line of urinals,

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<v Speaker 1>you take one on either end. It doesn't matter which end,

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<v Speaker 1>just it has to be on the end the next

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<v Speaker 1>person and has to take the one on the furthest end.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as long as there's at least one empty

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<v Speaker 1>one separating you and the next person, you can take one.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there isn't, you gotta leave. Like like there's

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<v Speaker 1>it was this crazy series of but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>series of rules where and then the comedy came from

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you're like, this is kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>guys behave in the bathroom. For me, it's the cardinal

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<v Speaker 1>rule is if there's two two stalls, um and the

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<v Speaker 1>doors shut on one then both are occupied by by default.

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<v Speaker 1>That must make it difficult here in this office because

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<v Speaker 1>the bathrooms go uh floor to ceiling with the doors

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<v Speaker 1>and they're shut all the time. So that's that's different

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<v Speaker 1>like that these bathrooms are prime real estate in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you remember in the last place where House

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<v Speaker 1>the First was headquartered, it was you know, just a

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<v Speaker 1>partition and you can see feet and everything. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's just to me, like we we really have advanced

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where you know, it is a private

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<v Speaker 1>act and um, it's not to be shared. It's not public.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not in ancient Greece any longer. Um. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody's in install, you don't sit down next to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I really feel strongly about that. I can understand.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting because when we get into advanced toilets

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<v Speaker 1>like the Japanese toilets, they take that to the next

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<v Speaker 1>level to create another another uh level of privacy for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty neat. Like you swipe your hand in front

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<v Speaker 1>of a sensor and it takes you to the seventh dimension,

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<v Speaker 1>completely out of reach of anybody. Here, it's you and

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<v Speaker 1>Buckeru Banza and that's it. Yeah, I think he is,

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<v Speaker 1>or the tenth. It's one of those. Yeah. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of the other things we can talk about before we

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<v Speaker 1>move into the earliest flush toilet is that when you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at say Europe in the Middle Ages, all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up into the Renaissance. Uh, you're talking about especially like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, think about castles frequently. I do, I really

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<v Speaker 1>do frequently think about castles. Um. Their facilities were pretty primitive.

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<v Speaker 1>It was essentially a hole cut into the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a stone seat sometimes with a wooden

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<v Speaker 1>panel on top of it. Uh. That then had a

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<v Speaker 1>channel that that slanted away from the wall, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>waste would drop down either into a cesspit, a moat, moat,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes just the ground. On the invading armies, that is

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<v Speaker 1>also a possibility. And these were called garter robes. And

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<v Speaker 1>they were also closets. They weren't just bathrooms, they were closets.

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<v Speaker 1>He would hang your clothing. Why because the ammonia from

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<v Speaker 1>your urine would kill fleas. Oh wow, that is very

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<v Speaker 1>surprisingly clever. It's not scar a break clever, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>up there. So if you're wondering when the first flush

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<v Speaker 1>toilet comes along. It's actually a lot earlier than I

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<v Speaker 1>had anticipated. It's weird. I don't know how I never

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<v Speaker 1>came across this fact before. And it's one that, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, a lot of people in our office. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes from fift nineties six John Harrington. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a cousin. I think of um Elizabeth the first Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was her godson. Okay, that's what it was. And

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<v Speaker 1>he designed this flushing toilet or prototype of a flushing

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<v Speaker 1>toilet for her. Yeah, and she probably didn't use it

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<v Speaker 1>very much. She didn't admit to it. She was a

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<v Speaker 1>queen and technically, when you're queen you can pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>poop wherever you like. Someone's going to take care of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he called it the ajax. No, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>John Harrington was a rake. Yeah, he was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like he was known for passing around lewd

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<v Speaker 1>poetry to the ladies of the court. He loved too.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very clever and he loved being clever and

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<v Speaker 1>so lewd poetry. Flushing toilets, well, he called it the

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<v Speaker 1>ajax as a pun. It's a pun on the term

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<v Speaker 1>Jake's which is a euphemism for toilet. It's like the John.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Jake's, So a Jax is a pun on Jake's.

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<v Speaker 1>And it had a pan into which one would do

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<v Speaker 1>one's business and assist turn that you could pump water

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<v Speaker 1>up into, and then a handle and when you pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the handle, it opened up a valve that allowed the

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<v Speaker 1>water from the cistern to come down and wash away

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<v Speaker 1>what was in the pan down through a channel that

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<v Speaker 1>would go out to assess pool onto an invading army

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<v Speaker 1>or onto an invading army, as the case may be.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as I know, he only built two. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he built one for the queen and one for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So it was an interesting idea, did not catch

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<v Speaker 1>on at the time. Uh it really just showed his

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<v Speaker 1>inventiveness to to look at the next approach to the

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<v Speaker 1>flushing toilet. You have to go ahead by almost two

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<v Speaker 1>years Alexander Cummings exactly, and he he invented something that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being very important for the flushing toilet, the

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<v Speaker 1>s trap. Yeah, so much so that it's still basically

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<v Speaker 1>the design of toilets today. Yeah. Now, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>pipes that you see that lead out from your toilet,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's called an S trap because it's in that

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<v Speaker 1>S shape, right, yeah, or some people consider it an

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<v Speaker 1>upside down you or something like that. It all depends

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<v Speaker 1>on one how much of it you can see and

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<v Speaker 1>to exactly what implementation it is. But yeah, the U

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<v Speaker 1>trap is another way of looking at an upside on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So the important thing about this was that it

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<v Speaker 1>would allow uh it would well trap water once it

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<v Speaker 1>had gone down the pipe from coming back up, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would also thus trap the smell, yes, which is

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<v Speaker 1>very important with sewers, because if you're taking a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of technology and connecting it to an open sewer, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the smell is gonna be something. Yeah, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>how to take care of that? And he did with

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<v Speaker 1>the S trap, Yeah, And it was really a brilliant ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>so much so strickling that like three two years later,

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty years later, Um, we're still using this guy's designing.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not been improved upon in two d and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years right there. There are a couple of other

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<v Speaker 1>variations on it, but it has the basic design is

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<v Speaker 1>still what we rely upon because it works, has no

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<v Speaker 1>moving parts for just that that pipe, so it can't

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<v Speaker 1>break down in that sense I could still get clogged.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll talk a bit about clogs later. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you gotta talk about it. I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know we were going to talk about clogs. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize. If you want, you can check out for

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the ill go to my happy place.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Yeah, we'll just watch you kind of stare

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<v Speaker 1>space um. But it also he also invented a sliding

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<v Speaker 1>valve between the bowl and the trap, which allowed some

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<v Speaker 1>water to stay in the bowl after you flushed, so

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<v Speaker 1>that it could hold on to the waist for the

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<v Speaker 1>next time. And so you didn't just have just an

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<v Speaker 1>empty bowl of waste and then put water into it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was you know, it actually improved the warm It's

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit. And you had a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>inventors who followed, like Samuel Prosser, Joseph Brama, Thomas Twyford.

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<v Speaker 1>They all made improvements to the basic design of the toilet,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a Mr. Crapper. You know, I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>save that. But yeah, let's talk about Thomas Crapper here

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. But before we get into that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break to thank our sponsor. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you may have heard the somewhat apocryphal tale that the

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<v Speaker 1>toilet was invented by a man named Thomas Crapper. Enough, yeah,

0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.800
<v Speaker 1>one of those ha ha, Isn't it ironic? Don't you

0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:40.679
<v Speaker 1>think Alanis morrisse at moments? You know it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like rain on your wedding day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like Thomas Crapper making a toilet, and I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way it goes. Um. Thomas Crapper, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as we can tell, was actually a person. There are

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<v Speaker 1>records of a Thomas Crapper Whold who held patents in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth century and their plumbing patents, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>them fact involved improvements to the water closet or toilet.

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<v Speaker 1>But he didn't invent it um, and he may not

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<v Speaker 1>have had that big of an impact overall on the

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<v Speaker 1>toilet evolution. It's just one of those facts that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got passed around, as you know, or one of

0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:22.600
<v Speaker 1>those those tidbits agains passed around. The total truth. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>he pronounced his name, it's crepe Um. Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things where I actually looked into

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<v Speaker 1>it too, because I was like, well, I've always heard

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<v Speaker 1>that as well. And I'm curious where that came out. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah it is. It's got it has traction because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so delightful. Yeah yeah. Uh. Going back to mid

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight in the UK, that's when they passed the

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<v Speaker 1>Public Health Act, which stated that all new houses in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK had to be built with a toilet. Very smart. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great way of preserving your your various towns

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<v Speaker 1>and ease from becoming overrun with filth. Right. But and

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<v Speaker 1>this is still um in play today. There's a certain

0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:14.480
<v Speaker 1>psychology around defecation, urination, expelling waste, right, and it can

0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:19.200
<v Speaker 1>swing wildly from era to era. But at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>in the mid nineteenth century, forcing the public to install

0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.760
<v Speaker 1>indoor plumbing wasn't like the public was saying, yes, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you government, we've been waiting to have to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more like, um, wait, you want us to

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<v Speaker 1>put a toilet where next to the kitchen? What is

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with you? No, that's disgusting. We want to put

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<v Speaker 1>this over in the back garden where you know, chimberpot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mobile that we can put wherever and get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of immediately, Like this is gross, Like you want us

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<v Speaker 1>to hook it up to the sewer. What's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 1>So there was like a certain um amount of resistance

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<v Speaker 1>to adopting this, whereas now, um, you know, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want that, you want indoor plumbing, and it's based

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<v Speaker 1>on the cultural attitudes towards expelling waste that that vary

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<v Speaker 1>from time to time. Yeah, it's it's it's hard. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very easy for us to start looking at everything

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<v Speaker 1>from our current perspective, right, It's very difficult to take

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves out of that. But you do have to do

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<v Speaker 1>that when you start talking about subjects like this, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was a different world. I mean, people thought differently

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<v Speaker 1>and for for reasons that you can kind of understand

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about it. And you know, if you think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now I've got a thing that dumps waste into a sewer,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want any of that smell or nastiness

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<v Speaker 1>or anything to get into my home. When before I

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<v Speaker 1>had a portable thing, I could actually take it outside

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<v Speaker 1>and dump it in a cess pool or whatever. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there wasn't a big change. Plus plus, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that's my poop. Yeah it's poop, but it's I know

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<v Speaker 1>where that poop came from. Whereas with the sewer, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else's poop has the opportunity come into your house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which you don't know, you didn't want. Another interesting point

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<v Speaker 1>is I've been talking exclusively about people inventors and engineers

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK. Now, when settlers came over to America,

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<v Speaker 1>they did not come over with plans for toilets, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the toilet actually had a parallel evolution in the

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<v Speaker 1>UK and in the United States in isolation basically a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, yes, with with a little bit. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they obviously had some common history there, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>largely engineers in the US who created very similar style toilets.

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<v Speaker 1>In some cases, they were toilets that were lagging behind

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<v Speaker 1>the technology by about twenty years compared to the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>But you had folks like James T. Henry and William

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Campbell who were awarded a U S patent for a

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 1>water closet toilet um. And that's where we really see

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<v Speaker 1>it moving forward from that point on and to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where the essentially merged like the the You know

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<v Speaker 1>that we saw the United States adopt things like the

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<v Speaker 1>s trap, making the toilets more useful. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>when toilet paper was invented. Toilet paper was invented in

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight. I predate ninety and I distinctly remember toilet paper.

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<v Speaker 1>You were off by almost a hundred years when toilet

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<v Speaker 1>paper was invented, didn't They used to use a series

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<v Speaker 1>robot catalog corn Cob. There's actually some poetry that I've

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<v Speaker 1>read where there's a discussion a giant. I forget what

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.440
<v Speaker 1>poem it is, but there's a giant talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>the different things he has used to clean himself after

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<v Speaker 1>after evacuation, including I think he determined that the most

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable was the neck of a goose. Yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you not not for the goose, but yeah, uh so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The toilet paper was in but not marketed heavily until

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen two, so for more than a decade. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of I was like, well, I mean, why

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<v Speaker 1>we got the series robot catalog Cobs? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>look around your house and say, oh, yeah, corn Cobs,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a good idea idea. Yeah, sure it's got traction,

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:28.439
<v Speaker 1>but pay a price for that track. Yeah, I I

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<v Speaker 1>hesitate to hazard a guess. To be honest, I go idea,

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll try to have some geese at home. All right, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd like to apologize on behalf of Josh's I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to send to you my apologies for giving him the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about how a toilet actually works. Okay, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So you got your basic parts of the toilet. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the tank, You've got the bowl in which you

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<v Speaker 1>do your business, and then you have the lifen the

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<v Speaker 1>s trap area that where the waist goes once you flush,

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<v Speaker 1>which is technically part of the bowl. Yeah. Yeah, it's

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 1>just it's easier to talk about it as separate parts.

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>But yes, you aren't correct. So inside the tank you

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<v Speaker 1>have the flush valve. This is the valve that allows

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 1>water to flow out of the tank and into the bowl. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you press down the handle, yeah, there's that

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<v Speaker 1>handle is connected by chain to that flush valve. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that lifts up and lets the water from

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<v Speaker 1>the tank into the bowl. Yeah. And once the water

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<v Speaker 1>is flowing down, like for most toilets, you no longer

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:38.120
<v Speaker 1>have to hold the handle down because just the water itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the valve is an open position, it will remain

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<v Speaker 1>open until the water level is low enough for it

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<v Speaker 1>to close. Again. Yeah, they make it so it's light

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<v Speaker 1>enough to float. Yeah, right, because it's overcome suction things

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.199
<v Speaker 1>to the handle um and it's floating there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>as the water drains out, its ability to float stop,

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<v Speaker 1>so it falls back into place ideally ideally. Yeah. There

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>are times obviously, if you have issues where maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>a hinge that's a little too tight, or there's something

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<v Speaker 1>off with the seila of on the the valve, that

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you may have to have that replaced, because otherwise water

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>just continuously flows into the bowl and it never accumulates

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>in the tank. I found that most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>it's because there's a little bit of extra chain that's

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<v Speaker 1>keeping the flush valve from sitting in suction from from uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You you also have a second valve inside the tank,

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<v Speaker 1>the filler valve. The filler valve is what allows water

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<v Speaker 1>to go into the tank as well as into the

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<v Speaker 1>bowl after a flush, so uh, it needs to it

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<v Speaker 1>refills the tank after you flushed it. So you flushed

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<v Speaker 1>the tank, the water from the filler valve will start

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<v Speaker 1>to pour into the tank to refill it. Once that

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 1>that flush valve has shut uh, some of that water

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>also will go into the bowl. To bring the level

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<v Speaker 1>back up to the proper height, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a filler float. This is a pretty us. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a brilliant idea. The idea is that the filler

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<v Speaker 1>float will rise to a certain level within the tank,

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<v Speaker 1>and once it's at the proper level, it will activate

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<v Speaker 1>a switch then turns off the filler valve. So so

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<v Speaker 1>that way you no longer have water running in your tank.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever hear water continuously running in your tank,

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<v Speaker 1>it means that float is not activating the switch properly,

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<v Speaker 1>and you may need to take the lid off and

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<v Speaker 1>see what's going on with that float. Maybe it's stuck

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<v Speaker 1>on something, or it's you know, it's it's the switch

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>might be burnt out, in which case you would need

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to have that switch replaced. But that's what's causing that

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 1>or this Again, the flush valve could be not seated

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>popular in waters just rushing out. So that's true. Filler

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<v Speaker 1>valve balloon isn't getting to that level where it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to where it can trip the filler valve from turning

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<v Speaker 1>off again, right exactly. Yeah, that could be another another

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<v Speaker 1>cause for it. But you don't have to fear because

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<v Speaker 1>even if the water is running, You're toilet will very

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>likely not overflow because it's been designed so that as

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the tank fills, even if it keeps filling and filling

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and filling, it's going to the overflow um tube, I guess,

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to direct that into the bowl. Right, So

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>any water that comes above the height of the overflow

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>tube will just flow down the tube. The tube leads

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to the bowl, and water will flow into the bowl.

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>And then you think, wait, wait, wait that cause it

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the flush. Yes, surely somewhere this thing's got to flood.

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>What's the deal? Why doesn't it all right? That's when

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 1>we get into the siphon where my head pops. Yeah,

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>this is the siphon gets a little for those who

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>those of us who are many years away from basic physics,

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:45.959
<v Speaker 1>the scipen gets confusing. So the siphon is designed so

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>this is that that sort of upside down you or

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the s shaped pipe the top of that upside down

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you the peak there that's at the same level as

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>what the toilet bowl, the level watering your toilet bowl

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 1>will be. Now, if you were to pour more water

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>into the toilet bowl, because there's there's just this open

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>area between the siphon and the bowl. You know, putting

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>more water in makes the water level rise on both sides, right,

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>But if you're only putting in a little bit of water,

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that water will just rise up above the level of

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the bend and flow down the other side of the bend. Yeah.

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>And and I should I want to point out that, um,

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.719
<v Speaker 1>this is your explanation is spot on, but would be

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>exponentially easier if somebody were looking at a cross section

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>of a toilet flushing s valve right exactly. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it would really drive at home, Yeah, because it's it's

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>this is me trying to paint a picture of a

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>toilet flush in words, yea, with physics. Yeah, so you've

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>got you've got this this level here, and as long

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>as the water is just flowing gently so for in

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>other words, like a steady stream from the overflow too,

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>then it's just going to gradually rise up til it

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>hits above that you bend, and then flow down the

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>other side. And that's all that happens, because it's not

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not creating the siphon effect yet. Yes, So the

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>water is in that in that s trap and in

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>your toilet bowl and on the other side of the

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>siphon in the tube that leads down to the sewer,

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>that that air is imbalanced with the air that's in

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the toilet bowl. Right, So you basically have air pressure

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>balancing your water and keeping it in place. Yep, yep.

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>And it's only if you were to fill that siphon

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that s trap with water completely that that then things

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>get out of balance. And here's where the siphon affect

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>comes into play. So how does a siphon work? Alright?

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>First of all, siphons a bent tube used to move

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a liquid from a high evolution elevation rather over an

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>obstruction and to a lower elevation. Done and done right.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You could do this very easily by taking two cups,

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>filling one cup with water, putting a couple of books

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>down on a table. So you put the cupful of

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>water on top of one of the set of books.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Get a tube, like a flexible tube of some sort,

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>submerge it in the water so that the tube fills

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>with water. Put your thumb over one end of it,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>move it over to the other cup, which is on

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the surface of the table. Yeah, make sure that the

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>make sure that the end of the tube that you're

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>holding ends up being lower than the level of water

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>in the cup. Let go. Water will start to flow

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>from the cup that's above to the cup that's blow

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>even though the tube will arc so the water is

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>technically flowing uphill. Yeah, which is pretty neat. Yeah. As

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>long as the lower end of the tube going into

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the lower elevation glass um, as long as that is

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>exposed to air, and as long as the end of

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the tube that's in the higher glass is under water,

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the air pressure in the tube is overcome and the

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>suction effect takes place right well kind of except the

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>other the tube in the lower elevation does not have

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to be above water can be. It can actually be

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 1>completely submerged as well. As long what will happen is

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>if the two water levels reach the same height, uh

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and I mean same height relative to the table, then

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>pressure is equalized and everything will everything is an equilibrium

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and water will stop to float. It's but as long

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>as the elevated cup has a higher water level, water

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>will continue to flow through that siphon. And the reason

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>there are two reasons really. One is that water inside

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a chamber like that acts like a chain. It pulls

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>itself along The other reason is that you have I

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>think of the tube as an arc. Well, the tube

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>that leads down to the lower elevation is longer. That

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>side is longer than the side that's in the higher elevation,

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>So the water that's in that part is heavier, and

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>that weight is what's pulling water are along inside the

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>tube and it's until until you hit equilibrium. So for

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a toilet to get it back to to the toilet example,

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and why it's important when you flush that water from

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the tank rushes into the bowl and it does so

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>fast enough to completely fill the pipe that s trap.

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>This activates the siphon effect, and the water pulls the

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>waist and also all the rest of the water along

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>with it through that s trap until it gets to

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a point where it has exhausted the amount of water

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that the tank has put into the bowl. And then

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>air is introduced. And once air is introduced, the siphon

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>effect stops right. So with a siphon, not only is

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the water flowing out of the bowl because there's so

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>much water, what about two or so gallons introduced to

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>your toilet bowl in about three seconds that that siphon

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>effect is produced in the s trap. Right, Not only

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>is that water flowing, it produces a type of suction,

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>so the water in the bowl is sucked out and

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>down the siphon. And then, yes, like you said, once

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the air is introduced, because the water and everything sucked

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>out of the toilet bowl, the suction effect is cut

0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>off and everything goes back to the way it was

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>before you flush the top. Right, That's when the filler

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>valve can start to refill the bowl because now that

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no longer any more suction going on, the bowl

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>water level can return back to what it was as well.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>And keep in mind that part of the s trap

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that you know you can't see because it's a solid pipe,

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>but that also ends up filling to that same height

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>as the water that's in the bowl. And then you're

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>ready to go again once the tank its bowl anyway,

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>once you eat some kimchi. We talked about that before

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the podcast started. Um, but yeah, one other thing to

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind. You might say, well, why do we

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>need a tank at all? Why not just have a

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>water pipe going directly into the toilet and then when

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you flush, it just opens up a valve for a

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of time and it closes. And the reason

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>is because unless you have insane water pressure in your house,

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not putting enough water in fast enough to fill

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>that s trap completely to to activate the siphon effect.

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just going to trickle out like if your tank

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>was overflowing exactly. So there's some buildings that I mean

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of buildings that don't have UH tanks on

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>their on their toilets. But that's because again, they are

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>directly connected to a very powerful water system, and thus

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't need a tank because the water pressure that's

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>coming in is great enough to start that effect all

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 1>by itself. Yeah, or sometimes it's even more terrifying noise

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>than that. So that's your basic toilet, how your basic

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>toilet works. But so glad we're past the siphon effect. Yeah,

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that's I feel like we just made it through the

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.800
<v Speaker 1>woods together. Now now we're going to go into the bright,

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>gorgeous future of weird toilets. This is great. So let's

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.399
<v Speaker 1>talk Japanese toilets for a second. And I'm not talking

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>about the ones, the tra off ones, which we established.

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>There are still some in Japan, and trough is one

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>way to put it. More like UH olyptical hole in

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the ground is another way you could describe it as well.

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 1>On the floor. Yeah yeah, so yeah, you straddle and

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>then squat and then evacuate and then and then evacuate,

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>evacuate the area. Like I would just be like, I

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I did it right, and run went

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>down the street. Um, like I can't read your language

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so sorry. Just just yeah, that's kind of

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>how I normally react. I mean, I am I'm being

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>honest here, but no, the Japanese toilets, the the more

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>western style ones, have features. Many of them have features

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>on them that put our western toilets to shame, like

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>just phenomenal. So let's talk about some of the features.

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>That's fine toilets. Sorry, do you want? Do you have

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a favorite out of all of them? The air dry

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>air dry, that's pretty amazing. I I'm big on the

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>sound masking. Yeah, they they they offer. Most Japanese toilets

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that have all the bells and whistles offer a sound

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>masking feature. That's a flushing toilet. Yeah. Some of them

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>now have also classical music, but which makes some white noise.

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I actually did a brain Stuff episode about what white

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>noises and how it works. So you should check for superiods.

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's the that those are so two of

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the very simple ones. But it also tends to have

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple of different options for washing your nether regions

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>once you are finished. Yes, and depending on your gender, Um,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you should, I should say, depending on your sex, you

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>should be very careful what option you choose when you're

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 1>in Japan. Yeah, but they would be aimed for you know, ladies,

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>for the men folks. And then you have ear washing,

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>which is for you know, everyone, depending upon what activities

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you got up to on that bathroom. Um, and uh, yeah,

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 1>so there's usually there's a picture of like a icon

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that looks kind of like a butt with some sort

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of stream of something directed at it. That would be

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>for washing your rear. The day usually has a icon

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>of a lady somewhere on it involved, yeah, something like

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that to indicate what that was for. And uh, if

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you're wondering, like, well, wait a minute, I'm this sounds

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>like this could be really unhygienic. The Japanese are very

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>concerned with cleanling, and so these are nozzles that are

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>usually hidden away from the inside of the toilet bowlts

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>only when you press the button that they get. There's

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>like essentially a door that opens in the novel can

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>come out, and they have nozzle sterilization technology to clean

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>them between uses. And so uh yeah, they usually have

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>buttons where you also have to like a stop button,

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>so if you press one of these, it essentially goes

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>until you tell it to stop. Yeah. And the person

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>who wrote this um this how to use a Japanese

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>toilet post points out that before you choose either of

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:19.240
<v Speaker 1>these options, you want to press the stream power down

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>as as low as it will go to start, and

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>then you can adjust it upwards. Um. Here she says

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that at the normal setting is equivalent to about a

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>water pick, which on your on your on your junk.

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>That's not good, that's really, that's terrible. It might come

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>as a big surprise for that to to hit certain

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>sins of variation. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, it's setting it

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>low and does some of them also have controls for

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the temperature of the water, not to mention the temperature

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>of the seat. Uh. Some also, like you mentioned, have

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the air drying so that after you have had your

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>rear washed, air dry it, which I mean like yes,

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. There's like the days and rear washing all

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, but you're not gonna stand up right afterwards

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and just be wet. You have to have the air dryer.

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>That's why. I mean, that's the best part. I agree,

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I mean, if if you're going to have

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>these other features, you really knew do need the air

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>dryer or else you're just like, well, I guess I'll

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>be sitting here for a couple more minutes before I

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>dare move. Another interesting thing to me about the Japanese culture. Um,

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and it makes perfect sense, I totally understand it. But

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, in Japan, shoes are really considered to be

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 1>quite dirty. That's one of the dirtiest pieces of clothing

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that people have. So it's customary, of course to take

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.720
<v Speaker 1>your shoes off and slip into house slippers before moving

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>going into a house. Absolutely, bathrooms have their own sets

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of slippers, and it is quite a faux pod to

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>mix the two together. Oh yeah, if you were to

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>step out of the bathroom wearing bathroom slippers, you would

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>shock people, especially if you did like a little dance

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>like I'm American. Oh yeah, I don't do that. Come on,

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.959
<v Speaker 1>and you can You can usually tell the bathroom slip

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>first um from they they have almost like a bit

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of a waterproof look to them. Usually they're a little

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>shinier they're made of they're not like um cloth. Usually

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>there you could tell just using your your noodle. Compared

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>to house slippers, you'd be like, these are probably the

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>bathroom slipper toilet slippers. Or they might be brightly colored

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and you think no one would ever wear these anywhere else.

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe they have a poop emosey on them. It

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>could be those are popular. Another feature you might find

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>on the toilets as a deodo riser button. Yeah, also

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting. So I found a toilet if I

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>may give a plug, even though I should say I

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>have no financial interest whatsoever in the Cohler company, but

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I have become a fan of their new me Uh toilet.

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't even begin to describe it. It's just so

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>neat as far as the design goes. UM. Just go

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 1>to just look for the new me toilet and U

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>M I UM. But one of the things they have

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 1>is a deodorizer. It's like, um, basically a little vent

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>where the the the odor is sucked in and run

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>through the charcoal filter nice. Yeah, yeah, I mean I

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>when I read about the Japanese toilets, obviously there's some

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>some humor that comes in that just from the cultural

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>differences things like that, which can seem very funny. But

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I am incredibly envious. I would

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 1>love to have a lot of these features built into

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>American toilets. Uh. There there are some moves to improve

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>toilet technology in various ways. Some of it is a

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>conservation trying to find low flush toilets that'll still activate

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the siphoning uh technique, but not use as much water,

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>and a go very important. Did you see the no

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>mixed toilet I did. Yeah, the the one that has

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>meant it has kind of like a ledge and and

0:41:55.560 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>filter for urine and then behind that would be where Yeah,

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's meant so that when you when you just

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>have to urinate, you don't have to flush the toilet. Yeah,

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't flush at all, and as a matter of fact,

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it collects the urine um. And one of the reasons

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 1>why the company that originally started making no mixed toilet

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>stop making them is because well, number one, they didn't

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>catch on very well. There's a lot of hesitancy UM.

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>But the another reason is they they didn't quite have

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure to collect the urine separately and send it off.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Although environmentally speaking, it makes a lot of sense to

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 1>separate urine from feces, especially UH and not flush urine,

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>because when you flush urine, you're introducing a lot of

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>other stuff besides just the urine. Like if you are

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>on UM pharmaceuticals, those a lot of that stuff is

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>expelled and metabolized and expelled in your urine and it

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>gets introduced into wetland areas and things like that, and

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you have frogs they're like have

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>roid rage or something you know, or that like a

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>rubbing themselves against walls because you took too much ecstasy

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the night before. That's fair, yeah, I mean, well, yeah,

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>anything you're taking into yours, anything you're gonna excrete spen

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 1>filtered through your kidneys, you're going to have some some

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>other elements in there too consumed. But so the the

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:27.359
<v Speaker 1>no mixed toilet collects this urine and sends it off

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>for separate recycling. And then if you're really hardcore, you

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>know granola or your city is, then maybe it gets

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>recycled into water, and you drink that and pee it

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>out again and again. It becomes a closed loop. Yeah,

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about that on Forward Thinking. We talked

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>about that with systems aboard UM the International Space Station

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>ways of water reclamation. So that I mean, obviously, if

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you are in an area where you get very little

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>water or it's very difficult to ship water to you,

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to make the best use of all the

0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 1>resources you have. Uh, there's some other things we can

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about as far as toilet advances, smart toilets. So

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 1>sensor technology has gotten to the point now where it's

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>it's very inexpensive, it's it's versatile, waterproof. It's entirely possible

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to design sensors that could uh measure your waste and

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and come up with actual information that could be relevant

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to your health. So I saw some interesting examples like

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the idea of a sensor that could be an early

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy detection by detecting changing hormone levels. UM, it might

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 1>analyze your waste detective bacterial infection, so it might tell you.

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 1>It might even send you an indication saying you know,

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you need to take it easy for a little while,

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>or maybe even you need to go see a doctor.

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>With the right kind of software, you and this is

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 1>not hard to do at all. You could even have

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 1>one that could send a notification to your doctor, or

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>even go further, have one that's linked to your doctor's

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 1>calendar and your calendar and even create an appointment for you.

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.760
<v Speaker 1>So your toilet does all that for you. It's it's possible.

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not something that we're necessarily seeing everywhere, but it's possible.

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I could see some problems with this though. Well yeah,

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, first of all, there's a real hesitancy

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>by people too, especially put their medical records out there,

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 1>their health data. UM. I feel like those as as

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>the advantages or the benefits of allowing the Internet of

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.240
<v Speaker 1>things or that that level of tech into our lives,

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>especially with health um, become obvious to more people. The

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>more just relaxed everybody's going to become. I mean think

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>about it, five ten years ago, say five, putting your

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>credit card into a website to order something was still

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 1>like really sketch you to a lot of people, and

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.879
<v Speaker 1>out enough people have done it that it's just it's

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 1>just whatever, that's the norm. Yeah, right, And I think health,

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>our health information is going to go that same way.

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I can see that. The only thing I see as

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>uh possible, well not the only thing, but one of

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the things I see is an impediment to this is

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>how do you identify the person who is using the

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 1>toilet at any given situations. So, for example, Josh, let's

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>say I have you over and you need to use

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>my restroom, and unbeknownst to me, you are carrying around

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>a really awful bacterial infection that's poised to wreak havoc

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>in your system. And so as you use my restroom

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.240
<v Speaker 1>and you flushed the toilet, it analyzes it and suddenly

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 1>thinks that Jonathan has gotten really sick. Next thing I know,

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>my doctor is calling me. Now I know about your

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>health condition. Yeah, that's that's a very good point. Um.

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I would guess then, if if toilets are analyzing us

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>our health personally, then a toilet itself will become a

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>much more personal thing. So maybe I have a dumb

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>toilet as my guest toilet, and then my smart toilet

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:15.760
<v Speaker 1>is the only one that's in my master bathroom. Or

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:20.280
<v Speaker 1>here's another thing, Stop me if I sound crazy, stop

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>You've got a biometric authentication system for your toilet where

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you have to scan like a thumb print or a

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>retinal scan to identify you before using it. Thus you

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:38.880
<v Speaker 1>can't possibly confuse too people and you cannot flush until

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you have identified yourself. That's a good one, then, know

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a I mean, it makes sense. My my wife

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and I have um an aria uh scale Oh yeah right,

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:53.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like fitbit um and it can easily tell us apart.

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>But because I mean it just determines like wait and

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Um, so it can it can easily

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>tell us are But you know, maybe the seat does

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:05.479
<v Speaker 1>detect by weight or there is some other detail about

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you that just by sitting on the toilet, uh, it

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>says this is Jonathan or this is not This is

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 1>someone who's broken into Jonathan's house to use this toilet.

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Were using your bathroom? Should I lock the door? Yes?

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 1>And turn on bathroom webcam? Right? Yeah, there you go.

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 1>And also the you know deoduriz, let's just go ahead

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and be safe. So there are other potential dangers, and

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 1>one of those is hacking. So there's already a story

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:38.879
<v Speaker 1>about a smart toilet hacking uh situation, which happened back

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:42.360
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand thirteen, Ours Technica reported that, according to

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:47.879
<v Speaker 1>security firm trust Wave, the Enacts Status automatic toilet had

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 1>a Bluetooth security vulnerability, and it was a doozy so

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to speak. So the you know, when you pair to

0:48:55.760 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>bluetooth capable technologies together, you generally have some sort of

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:03.840
<v Speaker 1>code that you have to put in in order to

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 1>pair them. Not always, but a lot of them do.

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And the problem was they had hardwired the same master

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 1>code in all of these toilets, and it was just

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>zero zero zero zero. So any app for this toilet

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:22.839
<v Speaker 1>compare with any toilet just from being in the same area. Right,

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 1>So if you are within bluetooth distance, which is pretty decent,

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't it's not that far, but it's

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 1>not you know, it's it's not like you could do

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:36.919
<v Speaker 1>it from two fifty feet away necessarily, But if you're

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:39.839
<v Speaker 1>close enough, like within the building or on the on

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the side of it or whatever, you can totally pair

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>your phone with a toilet inside and essentially hijack someone's toilet,

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 1>which you know, you might think, well, why could you do? Well,

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:52.919
<v Speaker 1>this thing had the ability to open and close via

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 1>a command on your phone, so that way you didn't

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>have to touch the toilet seat. It also allows you

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.320
<v Speaker 1>to control things like the bidet or the rear washing

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:04.640
<v Speaker 1>uh nozzles, so you could you could turn it on,

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>like you could turn on one of those nozzles when

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 1>no one's on the toilet and start flooding their bathroom.

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Or you could do it when you realize someone's just

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>got into the bathroom and they haven't even really started yet.

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 1>You could do it then and just laugh at the

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>hilarious or close the toilet seat while they're mid you

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 1>know activity. You know, you know it's ironic about using

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 1>an app on your phone to open and close the

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>toilet seat. Would it be that the phone surfaces the

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 1>dirtiest surface to come in contact with toilet? Yeah, I

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>thought that might be where you were going with that. Yeah, guys,

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't know, if you have smartphones, got touchscreen,

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 1>hits filthy, it's about the dirtiest thing you probably come

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:49.399
<v Speaker 1>into contact within any day, including a toilet. Yeah. Yeah.

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 1>The one thing that might be uh you know, a

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>good competitor with that would be a keyboard. If you

0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.240
<v Speaker 1>use a keyboard on a daily basis, that's probably pretty

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 1>gross too. Uh Yeah. So what's in the future for

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 1>toilet's Probably we will see some more of these, uh,

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>these things that are common now in Japanese toilets kind

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>of filter their way through to other ones. I imagine

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll stay see more moves to conserve water. It may

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 1>even mean that we end up moving away from the

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>siphon model and find a different model to deal with

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>waste so that it does it's not reliant upon creating

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.879
<v Speaker 1>enough water to create this section. We'll have to wait

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and see. Um, but we have to thank the brilliant

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>men and women who came before us forging the path

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to make incredibly useful piece of technology, and also hope

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>that we can continue to strive to get it to

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.840
<v Speaker 1>more people so that we can improve the quality of

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 1>life for folks who who otherwise are in pretty rough

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, circumstances when the obviously when cultures are going

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>to adopt it. So, Josh, thank you so much for

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 1>joining me on the man, Thank you for having me.

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 1>This was a joy. It was fun. It was fun.

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we were able to talk about this in

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a mature way, with only a few terrible jokes on

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 1>my end, relatively mature. We did pretty juvenile at times,

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:25.400
<v Speaker 1>but mostly maure uh. Of course listeners. You can find

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Josh at the Stuff You Should Know podcast, which is

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the granddaddy of all the stuff podcasts. Fantastic. I mean

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.359
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the oldest podcast that's still running from How

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works and is uh fantastic. It's great. And you

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 1>can also find Josh and lots and lots of video series.

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:47.320
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorites that Don't Be Dumb series remains

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:51.920
<v Speaker 1>way up there. I mean, it's like consistently informative and

0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>incredibly entertaining to me that it takes a lot of

0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:58.839
<v Speaker 1>work to look that uncomfortable on camera. Well, it said

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.800
<v Speaker 1>it is. It doesn't take much of it. I'm just myself.

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