Speaker 1: Look out. It's only films to be buried with Hello,
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Speaker 1: Buddy Peace. I am again standing in for your regular
Speaker 1: host Brett Goldstein, who you're going to be hearing from
Speaker 1: later on in the.
Speaker 2: Episode, of course. But this is the next in.
Speaker 1: A series of films to be Buried with Rewind Classics
Speaker 1: where we dip into the voluminous films to be buried
Speaker 1: with archives and represent repackage, polish up a previous episode,
Speaker 1: in this case Jen Brister's Resurrection episode, a fantastic resurrection
Speaker 1: version of the podcast whereby Jen gets resurrected from the
Speaker 1: dead to come back and answer all manner of questions
Speaker 1: existential and cinema. Again, just to reiterate, basically, due to
Speaker 1: the ongoing SAG after a strike, we will be temporarily
Speaker 1: on pause, and that's sort of why we're doing these
Speaker 1: sort of rewind classics, And it's also sort of it
Speaker 1: kind of times in well with a seasonal break, which
Speaker 1: we have every sort of ten episodes or so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is a really good chance to not only
Speaker 1: to perhaps be introduced to Jen for the first time,
Speaker 1: but if you did miss the resurrection episode. Then it's
Speaker 1: an awesome chance to catch up on what those sound
Speaker 1: like as well, because I mean, yeah, we don't assume
Speaker 1: that everybody's heard every episode. So yeah, a really lovely one.
Speaker 1: This one went out on I am literally looking at
Speaker 1: the screen as I say this. So this one went
Speaker 1: out on October the first, twenty twenty. So by this
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Speaker 1: Patreon episodes too, so yeah, this is this is of
Speaker 1: course a really good one one that we sort of
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Speaker 1: So yeah, please enjoy this Resurrection episode, rewind classic, and
Speaker 1: I'll be back at the end with the usual outro business.
Speaker 1: But enjoy. This is episode two hundred and seventy one,
Speaker 1: previously known as episode one hundred and fifteen of Films
Speaker 1: to be Buried With.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With the Resurrection.
Speaker 2: I am joined today by a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 2: a podcaster, a presenter, a legend, a hero, a mother,
Speaker 2: a wife to me, and apparently someone else, says, she says,
Speaker 2: despite the fact I've seen very little evidence of it.
Speaker 2: Please welcome to the show, my friend and yours, the amazing,
Speaker 2: the brilliant. It's Jeff Brisa Ah Brett.
Speaker 3: I can't believe leaveing advice to be back onto this.
Speaker 3: I feel, what a privilege, what a delight. I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Well, there's no pressure on you, but your episode was
Speaker 2: one of my favorites. And when people say which episode
Speaker 2: s did I listen to? I say, jem Brister No
Speaker 2: at Lucky Lucky people.
Speaker 3: Well, that one was recorded in Edinburgh twenty eighteen, where
Speaker 3: you know, where you're just running from one thing to
Speaker 3: the next, and you're like, do you do this podcast?
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, yeah, and I'm very sketchually
Speaker 3: prepared for it. And that's code for hadn't And the
Speaker 3: very little notes that I had made I didn't bring
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 4: Don't know if you remember.
Speaker 3: So every time you asked me a question, I went, ah,
Speaker 3: can I ever think about that?
Speaker 4: You're like, not really, because we're recording.
Speaker 2: It was a very poorsy episode. It made it very
Speaker 2: dramatic people.
Speaker 4: Very dramatic.
Speaker 2: Very Do you remember Edinburgh? Do you remember Edinburgh? Do
Speaker 2: you remember live?
Speaker 3: Do you remember going out of the house those days,
Speaker 3: good old days where you'd meet people in the flesh.
Speaker 2: Good life. Do you remember live.
Speaker 4: Vaguely?
Speaker 3: Do you remember being in a room where you could
Speaker 3: stand next people.
Speaker 2: Other people?
Speaker 4: Do you remember do you remember the touch? Do you
Speaker 4: remember the touch?
Speaker 2: Remember shaking hands? Do you remember that.
Speaker 4: The very thought of that? Now, I mean I don't
Speaker 4: know what we were thinking back in the old days
Speaker 4: where we sick and do that air kissing thing.
Speaker 2: Oh. I mean that was bad enough, but some people
Speaker 2: used to follow through, do you remember.
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually brushed their lips against your flesh.
Speaker 2: Disgusting. I did a Birthday Girls podcast. I highly recommend it,
Speaker 2: and they every every week they say you're legend and
Speaker 2: dick of the week, and I was like, well, it's
Speaker 2: either me or the person I lived with it, that's it.
Speaker 2: I guess with you, you've got three to choose from
Speaker 2: three others.
Speaker 3: My legends were my children, which was such a loser
Speaker 3: thing to such a loser move on my part, But
Speaker 3: that was Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think my dick of the week was pretty patel.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's fair.
Speaker 3: She'd very much been in the not if not, my preferge,
Speaker 3: you just very much been in my face for that day.
Speaker 4: So I launched her.
Speaker 2: That's fair. I probably should have done that then throw
Speaker 2: my girlfriend under the bus. I did it. I did it.
Speaker 2: Jennifer Bristo, Well, I guess we have to ask this.
Speaker 2: But your lockdown life, I imagine it is vastly different
Speaker 2: from mine. What was the fact that you have twin boys?
Speaker 4: Yes, and no school and no school, And.
Speaker 2: As I watched over your Instagram stories, I describe it
Speaker 2: like watching the film Castaway sped up and gaining traction
Speaker 2: of madness. And I loved it and I loved it,
Speaker 2: and I would like to put the whole thing to music.
Speaker 2: Think it would work about I think.
Speaker 3: At one point I was just talking to an animate
Speaker 3: objects and they became my friend. The whole of Lockdown
Speaker 3: was so surreal, and I think the only way I
Speaker 3: managed to get through that.
Speaker 4: Was knowing that everybody else was suffering.
Speaker 3: If there had been some instance where it was like
Speaker 3: just Brighton is in Lockdown and everybody else is fine,
Speaker 3: I would have literally just walked.
Speaker 4: Out, bye bye.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was hard, but I mean, like you.
Speaker 3: Know, it was hard for everybody was there. It was
Speaker 3: tricky for everyone for different reasons. Even if you know,
Speaker 3: it's tricky for me because I didn't get any alone time,
Speaker 3: and it was tricky for some people who were like
Speaker 3: I would really.
Speaker 4: Like some company around now. I am very tired of
Speaker 4: my own company. My brother was literally on his own
Speaker 4: six months, bless him.
Speaker 2: So what's he like now? Is he different?
Speaker 4: He is an empty shell of a man.
Speaker 3: No, I think he's He basically said to me he's
Speaker 3: moving out of his flat. He goes, I've got to
Speaker 3: get a two bedroom flat. He said, I'll pay.
Speaker 4: More, I'll do anything, just so I have another room
Speaker 4: to walk around. Because he was working from home.
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm basically working living, you know, watching television.
Speaker 4: He said, all in the same room. And he said
Speaker 4: it was just like being in prison. So yeah, move.
Speaker 3: He's literally moving house of flat so he can have
Speaker 3: because he's anticipating the next lockdown, so that when he
Speaker 3: is going back shit, he can do it in more
Speaker 3: than one room, which I think fair play to you.
Speaker 2: I think that's brilliant. What I also like is that
Speaker 2: he didn't think I'll get two bedrooms and get another
Speaker 2: person in that bedroom, so I haven't other you be
Speaker 2: he just wanted the biggest space to walk.
Speaker 4: I just wanted a bit more space. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 4: classic prister. He doesn't do well in company, so it's
Speaker 4: better that he's on his own.
Speaker 2: I respect that. How was being a teacher? I mean,
Speaker 2: are you tell me this? Because when people tell me
Speaker 2: genuinely my answer when people say, oh, stand up, it's
Speaker 2: so brave and always going shut up, people go, I'll
Speaker 2: be so scared. That must be hard. I always think
Speaker 2: being a teacher in my head is like being a
Speaker 2: stand up for eight hours a day with a very
Speaker 2: heckily Nightmari's crowd that you're trying to get to pay attention,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I have to entertain them. Like, how did
Speaker 2: you find as a stand up being a teacher to
Speaker 2: two fellows?
Speaker 4: Five gods?
Speaker 3: I didn't take to it very well. I very quickly
Speaker 3: that my children don't respect me, and which was quite
Speaker 3: suffering actually. And there were occasions where they would be
Speaker 3: distracted by a plastic cup and they weren't and I
Speaker 3: was singing and dancing and doing everything I could to
Speaker 3: distract them, and then they just look at plastic up
Speaker 3: and go.
Speaker 4: This this plastic cup is yellow, mamma. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to teach you phonics. You know. It was
Speaker 4: really hard.
Speaker 3: And there were days where I would I'd wake up
Speaker 3: in the morning and go really con gent, today's the
Speaker 3: day that we did poets sided the shit out of this.
Speaker 4: They're going to really connect with you. We're going to
Speaker 4: be having They're going.
Speaker 3: To be like, Mama, when you teach we learned so much,
Speaker 3: and every day was like, I want to.
Speaker 4: Do a bell, I'm hungry, I hate home school. When
Speaker 4: can I play? Can I watch them?
Speaker 2: Telly?
Speaker 4: I need a snack, Mama, well you, oh my aunt?
Speaker 2: When I do a popo, I need a way, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go sick.
Speaker 3: And it was like, oh God, I literally feel myself.
Speaker 2: It was lovely to be together and have that time
Speaker 2: as a family.
Speaker 4: Really lovely. Look jokes aside.
Speaker 3: Honestly, truthfully, it was on one level it was lovely
Speaker 3: because as a stand up comedian, I'm away a lot,
Speaker 3: and I was about I was in the middle of
Speaker 3: my tour when the whole thing sort of fell apart,
Speaker 3: and I was going to be away for like between
Speaker 3: February and May.
Speaker 4: That was that was all booked up. I was away
Speaker 4: for most of it.
Speaker 3: And if you go away a lot your children, it's
Speaker 3: not that they don't love you, but they do sort
Speaker 3: of become slightly indifferent to you.
Speaker 4: You're like, you're there, you're not there.
Speaker 3: They're kind of used to you going away, so don't
Speaker 3: they know not to rely on you and they know
Speaker 3: not to sort of invest too much, and so they
Speaker 3: were gradually heading towards you know, that difference. But the
Speaker 3: lockdown is meant that I'm back in the room. I'm
Speaker 3: back in the room as far as my kids were concerned.
Speaker 2: So now they rely on you, and this sounds like
Speaker 2: a disaster.
Speaker 3: I know a great thing about being I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: for any couple where one of them goes out to
Speaker 3: work and then they come home and I'm so tired,
Speaker 3: and you don't understand how tired I am. Deep down,
Speaker 3: they know that they've gone. They know that, you know,
Speaker 3: so I would come back. Oh, well, I've been, and
Speaker 3: I'm tired because I've been, But deep down I knew
Speaker 3: Chloe was in the ship. So on the one hand,
Speaker 3: I'm quite glad that I got to hang out with them.
Speaker 3: But on the other hand, it's reminded me that being
Speaker 3: with your children all the time is actual work, and
Speaker 3: my job is a piece of piece compared to compared
Speaker 3: to what I've had to do for the last six months.
Speaker 3: It's been so hard. So I'm really glad that they're
Speaker 3: at school. And even if we go.
Speaker 4: Back into lockdown, I'm still dropping them off there, so
Speaker 4: they'll have to entertain themselves somehow. Just wait out there
Speaker 4: and I'll pick you up at three. Okay, all right then.
Speaker 2: Bye, it is a plastic cup.
Speaker 4: Enjoy this.
Speaker 3: It distracted you last time. Yeah, so that's what I'm
Speaker 3: going to be doing.
Speaker 4: But look, they're in school now, and I do feel
Speaker 4: more human. I do feel much more human.
Speaker 3: I've got a personality and a life again, and that
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a real person because I started to forget.
Speaker 2: Are a real person? Do I look like I can
Speaker 2: see you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've sort of have the vague aura of a
Speaker 2: of a human.
Speaker 4: Why does your head look smaller? My head look.
Speaker 2: Bigger because I'm a real human. You're an approximation what
Speaker 2: you think a human would look like, and you're trying
Speaker 2: to put it off.
Speaker 4: So I've failed at that quite dramatically. I've really got
Speaker 4: the perspective from my head is way too big, and
Speaker 4: yours is that yours is the perfect pin head size.
Speaker 2: My head is actually, in real life massive, And I
Speaker 2: can't wear a hat. One of the reasons I worry
Speaker 2: about being a film director is because you know, you
Speaker 2: have to wear a cap, and I'm not sure I
Speaker 2: could get one on.
Speaker 3: You can always get you know, they've got those buttons
Speaker 3: at the back so that you know, yeah, if you
Speaker 3: ever tried to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you ever looked at someone with one,
Speaker 2: you know, the last button, you know.
Speaker 3: I've seen people and they just feel like, I can't
Speaker 3: even do the fucking thing up at the back, so
Speaker 3: it's just and it's flapping free. And do you know
Speaker 3: what those guys embrace it? You know, the ones that
Speaker 3: have got like they've almost got like a rectangle sort
Speaker 3: of like the the head has a right angle and
Speaker 3: hot dog rolls and on the back of the not
Speaker 3: even on their neck, on their actual head. I really
Speaker 3: appreciate a man that's got head fat because I think
Speaker 3: you've got to work hard for that.
Speaker 2: You've got to really filled up the rest of you
Speaker 2: that the head goes. All right, I'll take some I'll take.
Speaker 4: Some of that for you.
Speaker 3: And usually they're like it's sometimes I'm like, it's not
Speaker 3: even that you're like fat, it's just that you're just.
Speaker 2: I think it's a choice. I think it's you have
Speaker 2: a word with yourself and go let's put it in
Speaker 2: the head.
Speaker 3: I think there are some guys, you know, when they
Speaker 3: go to the gym and they take steroids. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you know they're taking steroids, and they're like, what part
Speaker 3: of your bodies you really want to work on, and
Speaker 3: they go, I want to work on my pecs, I
Speaker 3: want to look on my shoulders, I want to work
Speaker 3: on my biceps, my triceps. Yeah, this is what I'm
Speaker 3: looking at. I think there are someone that go, you
Speaker 3: know that.
Speaker 4: The back of my head. I'd really love to get
Speaker 4: a little lab up there, because.
Speaker 2: You can have a three pack on your head. You can,
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 3: So there are men going for a six pack understandably,
Speaker 3: and there's someone going three packs back at the head
Speaker 3: mate and you're like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, maybe when it take steroids.
Speaker 4: Here's a protein shake, good luck, just inject that strange.
Speaker 2: You know, jennifs the one good question I wanted to
Speaker 2: ask you before. I want to ask if you've actually
Speaker 2: done because I think you have. Have you done a
Speaker 2: human being gig?
Speaker 3: I've done quite a few human being gigs. I've done
Speaker 3: human being gigs. I've done gigs in car parks. I've
Speaker 3: done zoom gigs. I've done garden rooftop I've done them all.
Speaker 3: I haven't done an inside.
Speaker 2: Gig yet, but I was well, so I didn't do
Speaker 2: a car park gig. I saw videos of the car
Speaker 2: park gig, and I would describe it as the leakst
Speaker 2: lucky thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: It's quite distapian doing.
Speaker 2: Stand up to windscreens in the rain as well. What
Speaker 2: I saw, so just what I just saw someone what
Speaker 2: windscreen shouting into a void of Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever tried, yeah, just to
Speaker 3: pick load of people in the full focus. You're like,
Speaker 3: this isn't this is bleak, mate, I don't want to
Speaker 3: do this. I did one gig that was in a
Speaker 3: residential area so they weren't allowed to honk their horns.
Speaker 3: I said, listen, mate, you want me to do a
Speaker 3: gig in front of a load of park cars because
Speaker 3: for anyone listening to, anyone listening, going, I don't know
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. Basically, if you do a gig
Speaker 3: in a car park with people in their cars, the
Speaker 3: only way they can let you know if they're enjoying it,
Speaker 3: obviously because they're in their car, is to honk their horn.
Speaker 3: And I was told that they weren't allowed to haunt
Speaker 3: their horn, but instead the promoter had given them these
Speaker 3: plastic clackers.
Speaker 4: Do you know these ones little hands?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they clack them together like clack a clacker, clacker,
Speaker 3: So if they're enjoying the show, they're one down the
Speaker 3: window and they'll.
Speaker 4: Clacker clack a clacker to kill me now and before
Speaker 4: I have no word of a lie.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard these clacker things, but
Speaker 3: before I got introduced on stage, if you can't see
Speaker 3: what's happening, it does sound like this just sounds like
Speaker 3: two hundred men vigorously wanking in a car park, and
Speaker 3: that was quite triggering for me actually as lesbians.
Speaker 2: So I genuinely I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 2: to say this, but there's sort of no way of
Speaker 2: proving that wasn't what was going on. So there's no
Speaker 2: way I can't prove it. You say that to me
Speaker 2: because you've just told me a story of two hundred
Speaker 2: men in the car park. Supposedly they supposedly they all
Speaker 2: had clackers. Just doesn't.
Speaker 3: So grim anyway, It looks like it doesn't really look
Speaker 3: like anything that's going to change too much in the
Speaker 3: the future.
Speaker 4: So that could be the future of comedy, just using carpet.
Speaker 2: Just men wanking us from curs. Jennifer brist you have
Speaker 2: been resurrected, Do do do do do?
Speaker 4: This is incredible because I did actually die.
Speaker 2: You died, well, okay, Earth, But what point in your
Speaker 2: life would you like to come back to? Would you
Speaker 2: change anything?
Speaker 3: There's like a million regrets. Could I come back to
Speaker 3: the beginning of my stand up career? Just start it again,
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of things I wouldn't do it
Speaker 3: the same way? Oh my days. I would change a
Speaker 3: few things.
Speaker 2: Let me sell you, we'd cut all the learning bit
Speaker 2: and just go straight and success.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I would cut out at least ten years
Speaker 3: and go listen, you didn't need to do all about ship.
Speaker 3: What were you doing there? Why were you doing sketch comedy?
Speaker 3: For fuck's sake?
Speaker 4: Just sit up?
Speaker 2: What was your sketch show?
Speaker 3: I was working with a friend of mine who is
Speaker 3: certainly was she doesn't do it anymore. A brilliant writer, actor, comedian,
Speaker 3: just all around funny woman, Claire Ward.
Speaker 4: And she was just genuinely better.
Speaker 3: At me that sketch than she's just better at me,
Speaker 3: better at mester.
Speaker 2: Called better at me.
Speaker 3: That was the name of our sketch refers she was
Speaker 3: better than me, and I was always better at doing
Speaker 3: stand up and just chat and improvising and that sort
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 4: That was my sort of thing.
Speaker 3: But Claire was really good at the actual sketch comedy,
Speaker 3: in writing sketches and coming up with original ideas, and
Speaker 3: that was her thing. Yeah, So we did that for
Speaker 3: a few years and I just was never very good
Speaker 3: at it. And I don't know why.
Speaker 2: What was it called.
Speaker 3: Well, we were in a sketch group originally called the
Speaker 3: Loose Connection, and then we just did stuff together as Jenny,
Speaker 3: Claire and Jen, but we were never really called Claire
Speaker 3: and Jen. What we'd do is we were just Claire
Speaker 3: Ward and Gen Bristo, and we'd come on as two
Speaker 3: performers and then just do our sketches, right, And we
Speaker 3: did take a show in two thousand and eight corre reception.
Speaker 4: But I would I mean, not that I regret doing
Speaker 4: all of that.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff, but I would have spent
Speaker 3: a lot more time focusing on my stand up and
Speaker 3: a lot less time pretending to be I don't know,
Speaker 3: got one.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, dem brister, if you think it through,
Speaker 2: if you go back to what is this two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight, I.
Speaker 3: Would go back as far as two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's two thousand and four. You've come back.
Speaker 2: You're as good at stand up as you are now,
Speaker 2: but you started. So you go into a new act competition,
Speaker 2: you're fucking Everyone's like, what that fuck is this? You
Speaker 2: smash it up. Basically, within a year you've got your
Speaker 2: own BBC one Saturday show where you're like helping other
Speaker 2: stand ups or whatever, and your life is very different.
Speaker 2: You're playing the O two. Within four years you're a
Speaker 2: big TV star. You probably lose your way a bit
Speaker 2: ego wise, you become some sort of psychopath. Probably don't
Speaker 2: have you don't have the kids you have because you've
Speaker 2: got no empathy.
Speaker 4: Everything you're saying is probably true.
Speaker 3: Actually, if I was to go back to two thousand
Speaker 3: and four, I would be happy to go back to
Speaker 3: two thousand and four being a shit comedian, But I
Speaker 3: probably would waste a lot less time with self doubt
Speaker 3: and imposter syndrome. I would try to get rid of
Speaker 3: all of that. That's what I would try to get
Speaker 3: rid of and accelerate straight through to you can do this, brister,
Speaker 3: believe in yourself. That took fifteen years, and I think
Speaker 3: that's too long. I quite can I reduce just reduce
Speaker 3: that to half.
Speaker 4: Is that okay?
Speaker 2: I just see people.
Speaker 3: I see young people doing it in like, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: an open micah. In three years, I've got my own
Speaker 3: show on BBC blither Blin. I'm like, how did you
Speaker 3: do that? It just took me forever. I really resent
Speaker 3: my personality in my general just I just resent me.
Speaker 3: I wish I could have sorted all of that crap
Speaker 3: out sooner.
Speaker 2: I do know exactly what you mean, and not that
Speaker 2: I don't like your personality or yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: What I mean is I relate you see you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all.
Speaker 3: This is making so much sense. There's something about you
Speaker 3: that I just it's actually you.
Speaker 2: No, I do totally get that, and I do think.
Speaker 2: I think the reason that newer acts are better, I
Speaker 2: hope why the standard suddenly seems so much better, I
Speaker 2: think is because they've seen a lot more. Because you
Speaker 2: see so much more comedy now there's all the all
Speaker 2: the YouTube's or the specials, all everything.
Speaker 3: There's more women doing it. Yeah, there's a lot more
Speaker 3: women doing it. And if you started doing stand up
Speaker 3: like I did like eighteen years ago, there was like
Speaker 3: two or three women that you could go, oh, I
Speaker 3: want to be like you, and.
Speaker 4: They were like unicorns.
Speaker 3: It just seems so difficult to be able to get
Speaker 3: to that standard and get to where they were.
Speaker 4: But it seemed impossible.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think hopefully now when if women want
Speaker 3: to do comedy, they can see that it's totally possible.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a miserable life, but it is.
Speaker 2: Totally, absolutely not recommended. But if you have kids, it's
Speaker 2: a great excuse to get out of their house. The
Speaker 2: bad tour.
Speaker 3: You can go far away, squeeze a couple of kids
Speaker 3: that first, and then reason to live the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it now, Jennifer Brister, when you were
Speaker 2: brought back to life, which just happened, but in two
Speaker 2: thousand and four, the living, they're fucking excited to see you,
Speaker 2: particularly because you've just joined the open mic second and
Speaker 2: you're phenomenal.
Speaker 4: I'm really good at it.
Speaker 2: But they want to ask about films, which you've had
Speaker 2: a lot of trainings. You've been in eaven where they're obsessed.
Speaker 3: Ah, right, So do they want to know about films
Speaker 3: in the future as well as in the part.
Speaker 2: It's a very filmy universe. First question they ask is
Speaker 2: what was the last film you saw Jim Brister.
Speaker 3: The last film I saw was not that long ago,
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago. It was The Peanut Butter Falcon.
Speaker 2: Love that film you've seen?
Speaker 4: Of course you've seen it. Why am I even asking you?
Speaker 3: I think you just go on every platform and hoover
Speaker 3: up any film that has ever been made.
Speaker 4: Of course you do. I love that film.
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting to love it. Chloe chose it. I
Speaker 3: like quite oblique outlook on that film, right, So anything
Speaker 3: that looks like it might be upbeat, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't think I want to watch that that looks like
Speaker 3: it would cheer me up.
Speaker 2: I don't want that.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, It's very off brand for me. And I
Speaker 3: loved it, and I've been recommending it to everybody. Someone
Speaker 3: told me that there was a story behind it, like
Speaker 3: the guys that created it, that wrote it, wrote it
Speaker 3: for the chap, the young chap that's in it, who
Speaker 3: is Zach Got saved Got.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't products with him young, a young man with
Speaker 3: down syndrome, a young actor with dance syndrome, and they
Speaker 3: wrote it for him because I think they'd all worked together,
Speaker 3: or they'd all trained together and he had been a
Speaker 3: child at her and he sort of went off the rails,
Speaker 3: started drinking and had a bit of a terrible time,
Speaker 3: and they wanted to write something for him to get
Speaker 3: him back on track, and so they wrote. They wrote
Speaker 3: The Peanut Butter Falcon for him as a vehicle for him,
Speaker 3: which I thought it was such a lovely story.
Speaker 4: But the whole the whole movie, I loved.
Speaker 3: It is a bit you know, Sacharin, but not in
Speaker 3: a kind of mawkish. I didn't find it to be
Speaker 3: diabetic inducing sweet. I just thought it was I just
Speaker 3: thought they got the balance really really, you know, spot On.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Queen and Slim?
Speaker 4: I haven't.
Speaker 2: I'm going to listen it down.
Speaker 4: I'm going to note. Look, I've got a notebook and everything.
Speaker 2: Look we're here for work, Jen, This isn't all in life.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you've got giving.
Speaker 4: I've got taking notes.
Speaker 2: This is it Queen and Slim, which is very different
Speaker 2: in many ways, but as the same sort of There's
Speaker 2: something about it that remind me of Peanut Back Falcon
Speaker 2: in that there's a kind of the way it's shot
Speaker 2: and the kind of tone of it. Slightly. I don't
Speaker 2: know what the word is a fable. Like a fable,
Speaker 2: it's not quite real life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not entirely naturalistic. No, yeah, it's it's got
Speaker 3: a story to tell, and a fable is the perfect
Speaker 3: way of describing the peanut butter falcon because there are
Speaker 3: points in it like his super strength and the bit
Speaker 3: where he's being what's what's the name of the actor
Speaker 3: that's in it, Sharyla Birth.
Speaker 4: He's brilliant in it.
Speaker 3: He's absolutely amazing in it where he's pulling him out
Speaker 3: of the water on the rope. You know, there's bits
Speaker 3: in it where you're like, okay, you know it stretches
Speaker 3: naturalism a little bit, but the actual story has there's
Speaker 3: a morality, there's a there's a moral to it. And
Speaker 3: that's why I really enjoyed it, I suppose. And the
Speaker 3: acting was great and the connection between the actors so
Speaker 3: I thought was really sweet as well, between Sharla Birth
Speaker 3: and Zach was lovely.
Speaker 4: It was really good.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad we brought you back to life. The answers,
Speaker 2: who do you think should play you in the film
Speaker 2: of your life?
Speaker 3: I think, and only because when this I don't know
Speaker 3: if you guys, you guys there's any you here. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you remember this butt the Whale Rider.
Speaker 3: Of course you do, the New Zealand film The whirl Rider. Well,
Speaker 3: the young girl that played the whale oscar Keisha Castle Hughes.
Speaker 3: When that film came out, everyone went, oh my god,
Speaker 3: if there was a film of your life, she would
Speaker 3: play you as a child. And I was like, well, okay,
Speaker 3: so I'm going to say Keisha because I cannot think
Speaker 3: of another actor that could play right.
Speaker 2: So Keisha Castle Hughes goes on the open mic circuit.
Speaker 2: I love this film. I will watch this film. It's
Speaker 2: a fable.
Speaker 4: It's so many layers to this.
Speaker 3: So she would play me on the open mic circuit, definitely,
Speaker 3: and you'd see her gradual, very gradual, incremental, actual glacial
Speaker 3: rise to middle success.
Speaker 2: It's a story about not giving up.
Speaker 3: It's a story that you know there's no happy ending,
Speaker 3: but there's a bit where you go, well, she didn't
Speaker 3: kill herself, and she seems like she's okay, she's not
Speaker 3: overeating anymore, and she looks like she's back on track.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fine, she's dealt with a unibrow. Okay, great, she.
Speaker 2: Looks It's a powerful piece Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think she would be great.
Speaker 3: I think she'd capture the because there's a lot of
Speaker 3: layers for this story. Yeah, and I think she picked
Speaker 3: up my vibe. Both of us are quite beige. Also,
Speaker 3: when I was in New Zealand many many years ago,
Speaker 3: I kept being asked by Maury people if I was
Speaker 3: if I was Maury.
Speaker 4: So they were asking me that all the time.
Speaker 2: Said in the film, that will be less less awkward
Speaker 2: that moment.
Speaker 4: Because because yeah, I am. Actually you're supposed to be
Speaker 4: have Spanish.
Speaker 2: Sure, whatever, it's a complex piece.
Speaker 3: It's a complex piece. There's a ven diagram there, and
Speaker 3: she's somewhere in the middle. There's Maury, there's Spanish, there's English,
Speaker 3: there's there she is, She's bang in the middle. She
Speaker 3: can have And also, you know, you'd need somebody that
Speaker 3: could carry the weight of this heavy lesbian personality, and
Speaker 3: I think she could do it perfectly.
Speaker 2: Do you have the personality of a heavy lesbian? I
Speaker 2: think so.
Speaker 3: I think there's you know, there's light lessions and there's
Speaker 3: heavy ones. I feel like my personality is definitely on
Speaker 3: the heavier side. Yeah. I don't think that's just said
Speaker 3: about the light and heavy spectrum. Actually, when it comes
Speaker 3: to personalities, where would you where would you sit yourself?
Speaker 3: I think you're quite in the middle. I think you
Speaker 3: give off light personality, but I think there's a dark
Speaker 3: side to you, Bret, which we haven't tapped into yet.
Speaker 4: Would you agree?
Speaker 3: Sometimes there's a furrowed brow, and I think what's going
Speaker 3: on under those eyebrows?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're basically as soon as the past ends, yeah,
Speaker 2: it all comes out. But this is where I have
Speaker 2: to keep your podcast to a certain length of time
Speaker 2: because I can only maintain.
Speaker 4: This, keep it together for this amount of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. What's the film of your life called starring?
Speaker 4: Middle of the Road?
Speaker 2: Love it? What is the most romantic film you? I've
Speaker 2: never seen. You look so panicked.
Speaker 4: That wasn't in my preparation. You just on me. Look listen, very.
Speaker 2: Improp It was really good, really good. It makes sense.
Speaker 2: That makes sense, except that in the end you realize
Speaker 2: not middle, you're heavy.
Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, but that's about what's not.
Speaker 2: Wait, personality, heavy lesbian personality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, heavyweight personality, lesbian that travels that's only traveled to
Speaker 3: the middle.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Let's not break it down too much. It was for
Speaker 3: too many spoilss.
Speaker 2: What's the most romantic film you've ever seen? I I think,
Speaker 2: may I say something, I think you pretend not to
Speaker 2: be a romantic person, and I think you are.
Speaker 3: I I am a sucker for a romantic film, but
Speaker 3: it has to be. It's I think with romantic films,
Speaker 3: it's all about when you see it as well. So
Speaker 3: you can see it at a time when you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is just bullshit, Well I'm not given be into this,
Speaker 3: and then there's another time that you might see that
Speaker 3: exact same film and it just catches a moment in
Speaker 3: your life where you're feeling like either you really want
Speaker 3: to be in a relationship or you've just come out
Speaker 3: of one and you're feeling a bit vulnerable or whatever
Speaker 3: it is. And Before Sunrise it's one of those films
Speaker 3: that I saw. Must have been quite young. It must
Speaker 3: have been in my twenties, and I saw it and
Speaker 3: I sort of wasn't expecting to love it as much
Speaker 3: as I did. And I think I watched it with
Speaker 3: my brother Greg, and neither of us, certainly to each other,
Speaker 3: would be talking about romantic films. And we were always
Speaker 3: into action films and sci fi films and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and both of us just fell in love with it.
Speaker 3: And then we've since watched the trilogy of the movies,
Speaker 3: and I know that every time each we've seen it,
Speaker 3: we haven't seen the other two together, We've ended up
Speaker 3: talking about it as if you know, like as if.
Speaker 4: We know this couple.
Speaker 3: And also I love that film also because if you
Speaker 3: watch the whole trilogy of films, you see because ordinarily
Speaker 3: that would be the end of their story. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you know, you think, how romantic, but that is inevitably
Speaker 3: when a couple get together, that's the beginning of your story.
Speaker 4: And I loved all of them.
Speaker 3: I loved all of the films, and I love and
Speaker 3: I love Julie del particular.
Speaker 4: I think she's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's great. The third film is quite incredible.
Speaker 2: It's so dark and like it's such a hardcore.
Speaker 3: It's not when you compare it to it. Before Sunset
Speaker 3: is the last one, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Midnight?
Speaker 3: Before Midnight? Before Sunset is the second one, and before
Speaker 3: Midnight that's it. Well, yeah, before Midnight. It's kind of
Speaker 3: the antithesis of the first one really in some ways.
Speaker 2: But this is real, this is marriage.
Speaker 3: But this is this is long term relationships. Yeah, this
Speaker 3: is what it does to you. You have to keep reinventing.
Speaker 3: You have to accept in a long term relationsis you
Speaker 3: have to accept that you are going to get bored
Speaker 3: of the person, that they're going to get bored of you,
Speaker 3: that you're going to have times where you stop finding
Speaker 3: them attractive. There are times that they very much find
Speaker 3: you on attractive and that you might stop and think, oh.
Speaker 2: Is this it? Like I say, you're a romantic.
Speaker 4: But I like that that.
Speaker 3: Film was like it was kind of like they got
Speaker 3: to that point where they're like, Oh, Jesus Christ, is
Speaker 3: this it for me?
Speaker 4: For the rest of Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And and also I think a lot of Hollywood movies
Speaker 3: always tried they shy away from the reality of what relationship,
Speaker 3: long term relationships are.
Speaker 4: And also like if you stick around often, if you.
Speaker 3: Do work to all of that, then you come out
Speaker 3: the other end and you're even stronger and better for it.
Speaker 3: But that first film, because it's the beginning, and the
Speaker 3: beginning is where all the romance is often or that
Speaker 3: excitement that you can't ever recreate until you hit into
Speaker 3: another relationship. And I was single at the time, and
Speaker 3: I just remember thinking it just looked a wonderful.
Speaker 2: Thing to be your experience of long term life and
Speaker 2: all the things you just said. Do you think it's
Speaker 2: just a cycle you feel those things and then it
Speaker 2: goes back up again, or is it just a steady decline?
Speaker 3: I think you have to oh God like therapy, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I think you have to be really proactive and motivated,
Speaker 3: and you have to want it, and you have to
Speaker 3: work at it.
Speaker 4: You have to, and if you don't, then it will end.
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm all full of things like couple's therapy,
Speaker 3: and you know, because the thing that is the hardest
Speaker 3: part of to keep going in a relationship is communication
Speaker 3: because all those resentments start to build up and then
Speaker 3: you don't communicate them, and then you can't see a
Speaker 3: way of getting past them, and then that affects every
Speaker 3: aspect of your relationship.
Speaker 4: So I think anyone that's in.
Speaker 3: A long term you know, and I'm talking like fifteen
Speaker 3: years plus, will know that you have to really try,
Speaker 3: you have to want it. And I think having kids
Speaker 3: makes you go, well, we can't just you know, sack
Speaker 3: this shit.
Speaker 4: We need to talk about it.
Speaker 3: So but equally sometimes you can't get past it, and
Speaker 3: that's why there's a bazillion divorces, isn't there? I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, and equally, I sometimes think relationships come to
Speaker 3: a natural conclusion and it doesn't mean that they've failed.
Speaker 3: It just means that they've come to an end. And
Speaker 3: that's also what happens sometimes. But that trilogy is just
Speaker 3: so brilliant. If people haven't seen it, I would have
Speaker 3: recommend it.
Speaker 2: So, Jen, Yes, what is the best film you ever
Speaker 2: saw that you never want to see again?
Speaker 3: I think any sad film. I can't watch sad films
Speaker 3: more than once, so anything like Shinder's List.
Speaker 2: So you like a bleak film but not a sad film.
Speaker 2: Is there a difference for you?
Speaker 3: Well, a bleak film is sort of dystopian, often kind
Speaker 3: of futuristic or horror, you know, or you know, it's
Speaker 3: like some sort of dark scife I think, or you know,
Speaker 3: like they're walking dead or something like that, do you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? But something where it's there's a
Speaker 3: real story to it, particularly if it's if it is
Speaker 3: in any way connected to real life, like shind this list,
Speaker 3: that's a one time thing for me. I don't need
Speaker 3: to see that again. I don't need to see you know,
Speaker 3: twelve Years Slave again.
Speaker 2: I don't need to see.
Speaker 3: That's the one undone, isn't it. I don't need to
Speaker 3: see Broke I don't even need to see Broke Back
Speaker 3: Mountain again.
Speaker 4: I remember seeing Broke Back Mountain. I loved it.
Speaker 3: I thought it was beautifully shot, thought the acting was outstanding,
Speaker 3: and it completely killed me.
Speaker 4: I was at the end of the film.
Speaker 2: I was broken.
Speaker 4: I was broke Back Mountain broke me?
Speaker 2: You weak?
Speaker 4: I was broken back to mountained.
Speaker 3: Okay, So so yeah, I don't think I'll ever watch
Speaker 3: that film again.
Speaker 4: I've never seen Schinder's List again.
Speaker 2: So yeah, say that's fair. You don't want to put
Speaker 2: that on a loop at a party.
Speaker 4: No, that's not the one. That's not the one that
Speaker 4: you have at your fortieth is it?
Speaker 3: Hey, Let's and all of those Manchester by see. You
Speaker 3: don't need to see these films again. So I appreciate
Speaker 3: them at the time that I watched them. I think
Speaker 3: they're brilliant. I always think the acting is phenomenal. But
Speaker 3: one time on it, thank you about mad.
Speaker 2: I think it totally makes sense. May I say, I
Speaker 2: think we didn't make enough of what an amazing answer.
Speaker 2: You go previously about romantic film and your life. I
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Now, next question, Jennifer bris.
Speaker 4: I love that this is the most seenless podcast. Do
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? I love all the segways go.
Speaker 4: They sort of go really well.
Speaker 3: Into one another, so natural, and at no point is
Speaker 3: there any change.
Speaker 4: CUTR isn't working.
Speaker 2: Now, this one I think is big for you. Is
Speaker 2: it the best action film you've ever seen? I know
Speaker 2: you've seen them.
Speaker 4: I love an action film. God, my taste in films
Speaker 4: is basically a sixteen year old boy. I suppose when.
Speaker 3: You say action, can I include like sci fi films
Speaker 3: in it?
Speaker 2: They're actually okay?
Speaker 4: Right? Aliens?
Speaker 2: That is definitely an action film.
Speaker 4: That is probably the best action film in the world. Aliens,
Speaker 4: not Alien, but Aliens.
Speaker 2: Listen, she's not with Alien, right.
Speaker 4: I love Alien, I love Alien, but I love Aliens.
Speaker 3: I just thought, in terms of action, it was Bill
Speaker 3: Paxton in that Come.
Speaker 2: On, come on, come on, come Bill.
Speaker 4: What an absolute dude.
Speaker 3: He was brilliant in it, and Sigorny obviously is amazing
Speaker 3: in it, and it's terrifying, and there's everything you want
Speaker 3: in an action film. There's a baddie, that guy from
Speaker 3: my two dads, My two.
Speaker 2: Dads, isn't it one of the mighty dads.
Speaker 4: One of my two dads, not the one with the mullet,
Speaker 4: the other one.
Speaker 3: In fact, they both got mullets, but the one with
Speaker 3: the mullet, it was a shorter one.
Speaker 2: Be mad about you and mighty Dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so he's the baddy in it. He's great,
Speaker 3: you think, you think he's quite benign, but then he
Speaker 3: turns out to be an absolute bastard.
Speaker 4: There's a ginger cat who doesn't like a cat. There's
Speaker 4: a little girl that she gets saved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't make it very further.
Speaker 3: There's a little hispanic lesbian who's maybe not a lesbian,
Speaker 3: but she needs to tell a haircut that.
Speaker 4: There's Phil Paxson.
Speaker 3: There's the other handsome chap whose name I never know,
Speaker 3: who is in it as well, you know what's his name.
Speaker 4: There's loads of action in it.
Speaker 3: And also there's aliens in it, and they're awful, awful people.
Speaker 2: Mean, they're so mean, the aliens.
Speaker 3: Also, it's bad enough that you've got two mouths. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's greedy, but acid for blood.
Speaker 2: Come on, So where's all this line coming from the hotel.
Speaker 4: It's the whole times, I know. And also it's like
Speaker 4: it's just dreadful table manners, that's the.
Speaker 2: Main thing off and things like what like you never
Speaker 2: tower off?
Speaker 3: No, but if they did, because of all the slime
Speaker 3: you'd get, all the little towel balls, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: Be very gritty tower?
Speaker 4: It was very Yeah, it would be.
Speaker 2: Of all the films if you had to and you could,
Speaker 2: which film do you think you could have made? And why?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I used to think I could make something as brilliant
Speaker 3: as Abigail's Party.
Speaker 4: Now, look, I couldn't answer.
Speaker 2: I could not good. I believe in you.
Speaker 3: Abigail's Party I was obsessed with for quite a long time.
Speaker 3: I remember when I saw it, I thought if I
Speaker 3: could make a film like this or a play that
Speaker 3: was a brief obsession of mine was trying to write something,
Speaker 3: and I ended up writing something that was basically Abigail's Party.
Speaker 2: So you could make it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could, I could make I could.
Speaker 3: I could make a really shit version of Mike Lee's
Speaker 3: Abigail's Party. That would probably be if I was going
Speaker 3: to write a script, that would be the closest thing
Speaker 3: I could imagine myself writing towards Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's a bit, I believe it. I've just remembered that
Speaker 2: I saw you in Trevior Lux play in Edinburgh. Are
Speaker 2: you with the perfect?
Speaker 4: Oh? The one in the one and the Many? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I don't know what I did. I played a few.
Speaker 2: Parts film Have you pretended to like? To impress people?
Speaker 4: So Coup by Francois Trufau.
Speaker 3: I studied very good E Wade French cinema at a level,
Speaker 3: so I had to watch I had to watch a
Speaker 3: lot of Francois Trufeau's films and lookato song. Coup was
Speaker 3: one of the films I had to write like a
Speaker 3: five thousand word essay on Dear God. And I didn't
Speaker 3: really I think I watched it when I was like sixteen,
Speaker 3: and so I didn't really get it.
Speaker 4: I didn't really enjoy it.
Speaker 3: And then I remember, like I don't know, fifteen years later,
Speaker 3: being at some sort of boring dinner party or something
Speaker 3: and someone talking about Trufau and I stupidly went and
Speaker 3: I can't read remember anything of it, you know, fifteen
Speaker 3: years later and.
Speaker 4: They were like going, oh, I love new Wave in.
Speaker 3: Cinema and I went, oh, I studied trutho at and
Speaker 3: then that was it. We went deep and I had nothing.
Speaker 3: I had a very superficial remembering of any of his
Speaker 3: movies and really struggled through that, and I had to
Speaker 3: pretend I love to look at Songkoup when I remember
Speaker 3: watching it being bored out of my mind. So I
Speaker 3: think if I watched it now, I'd enjoy it a
Speaker 3: lot more. But I don't remember loving.
Speaker 2: You think they knew? Do you think you got away
Speaker 2: with it?
Speaker 4: They didn't know, they didn't know.
Speaker 3: It was a very uncomfortable conversation, but I think they
Speaker 3: went away. Also, I did that a lot of things
Speaker 3: like what how did you feel about blah blah? You know,
Speaker 3: I did a lot of question asking and then that's
Speaker 3: that triggered some memories, which meant I could blag it.
Speaker 3: So I looked like I wasn't a complete philistine.
Speaker 4: Which I am.
Speaker 2: That's very good.
Speaker 4: Have you ever got into any of that new waves?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But do I like any of it? At me?
Speaker 2: I'm going to I think I'd be at that dinnerbout
Speaker 2: it with you again?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4: You know what we've seen aliens.
Speaker 2: Jeb, what is a film that you've never seen that
Speaker 2: you think it's mad, you've never seen it. Quadrophenia, that
Speaker 2: is mad, jembrist. What is the film you love that
Speaker 2: you don't expect anyone else to like?
Speaker 4: The Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2: You've come to the right place.
Speaker 4: The Lord of the Rings. It's just Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 4: The Lord of the Rings. Yeah, Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2: You're talking to the right person to because you hate it,
Speaker 2: let's listen. I admire it and respect the time management
Speaker 2: that it must have taken to make it. It's a
Speaker 2: huge achievement. It's hugely achieved. It's huge. I can't I
Speaker 2: can't criticize it. All I can say is it's not
Speaker 2: for me, the story of things walking along for twelve hours,
Speaker 2: one thing in another thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know anyone that likes that film. The amount
Speaker 3: of times I've said, I can't remember. There was a
Speaker 3: point in my life. I haven't watched it so many
Speaker 3: years now, but there was a point in my life
Speaker 3: where I would just get down and every year I
Speaker 3: had it on a box set, I go, I know,
Speaker 3: I'll do, I'll watch Lord of the Rings. I'd watch
Speaker 3: all three films like a like twelve hour marathon or whatever.
Speaker 3: It is not that long, but you know, a ridiculous
Speaker 3: amount of time.
Speaker 4: And then I let that out. Once I let that
Speaker 4: cat out of the bag, I know to keep that
Speaker 4: cat well in the bag by the way now.
Speaker 3: And people looked at me like I'd literally like shat
Speaker 3: in my hand and thrown it in their face. So
Speaker 3: we're like, what are you watching Lord of the Rings for?
Speaker 3: Are you eleven?
Speaker 4: Why are you watching that for a load of hobbits
Speaker 4: with Oh I'm a small person with furry feet. It's
Speaker 4: gone for a long walk. Oh I never wit. It
Speaker 4: actually is really racist. Why are the ox black? Have
Speaker 4: you even thought about that?
Speaker 3: Checky privilege? And I'm like, do you know what? I
Speaker 3: hadn't really just thought it was like a fantasy. I
Speaker 3: just it was escapism and I've really ruind it to
Speaker 3: me now, so I do appreciate it's not for everyone.
Speaker 2: That's really really good of you. And the thing is,
Speaker 2: you're going to in a party with people who like
Speaker 2: fucking France Worth three face?
Speaker 4: Why would you bring up Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2: That's not going to mean I'm glad you like it. Listen.
Speaker 2: I think it's a popular trilogy.
Speaker 3: Well, the only other person I know that enjoys it
Speaker 3: is Kerry Godlin's husband, and that's what we bond on
Speaker 3: the fact that even more, Yeah.
Speaker 4: He hates it, I mean she hates it. Don't tell
Speaker 4: Kerry she won't enjoy it.
Speaker 2: No, well, it is really boring. What is the what
Speaker 2: is the film you would show a lover as a
Speaker 2: test to see if you should be together? Basically, what's
Speaker 2: a deal break? If they didn't like it, you're like,
Speaker 2: forget it?
Speaker 4: Well, nothing really, because we grow up.
Speaker 3: I'm just astablished that I like Lord of the Rings
Speaker 3: for God's sake.
Speaker 4: So if I have any deal break, because I could
Speaker 4: be single to the day.
Speaker 3: I die, I suppose another Mike Lee film, it would
Speaker 3: be Life Is Sweet Great. I've watched that film like
Speaker 3: twenty times and I never not like it. And even
Speaker 3: though now, like when I first watched it, it had
Speaker 3: just come out and it felt really like current and modern.
Speaker 3: Then watch it now and it's like sort of early
Speaker 3: nineties and looks so like it looks like it was
Speaker 3: a million years ago, and.
Speaker 4: I just loved it.
Speaker 3: I thought it was so beautiful and I loved the
Speaker 3: family in it, and I never not cried with the
Speaker 3: bit with Jane Horricks and Alison Stedman in the bedroom.
Speaker 4: I'm just swelling up thinking about it. I love it.
Speaker 3: I just love that movie. Timothy's small Oh just well, no,
Speaker 3: but seriously I did. But I really enjoyed it, and
Speaker 3: I would highly recommend people to watch that. But it
Speaker 3: is really dated now and.
Speaker 2: You would break up with Chloe if she didn't like it.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if she's seen it. Actually, I've
Speaker 4: got it.
Speaker 2: I had High Risk now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had it on DVD. I did have it
Speaker 4: on DVD and I lent it to someone and I
Speaker 4: don't remember who I lent it to him.
Speaker 3: I never I never got it back. But the acting
Speaker 3: is it's brilliant. And also it's a story really when
Speaker 3: nothing actually happens, very little happens in it, but it's
Speaker 3: the story of this family and their relationships. And it's
Speaker 3: a very young player Skinner and a very young Jane
Speaker 3: Horris in it. And actually Jim Broadben and Allison Saidman
Speaker 3: are reasonably young in it as well. Timothy Spall, it's brilliant.
Speaker 3: It's really good.
Speaker 2: That's lovely. Jim, what is the film that made you
Speaker 2: the most uncomfortable?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, so the film that maybe the most uncomfortable, I
Speaker 3: suppose was I watched The Shining when I was probably
Speaker 3: thirteen or fourteen with a friend, and I was terrified
Speaker 3: the whole way through the film, more because I was
Speaker 3: I think it was the first sort of horror film
Speaker 3: that I'd ever seen, and I didn't want to admit
Speaker 3: to my friend that I was absolutely shit in the
Speaker 3: bed the entire way because she and I think she
Speaker 3: probably was as well, but she was like, you know,
Speaker 3: it was literally zero expression on her face, whereas I
Speaker 3: was like, felt like I was going to die of a
Speaker 3: heart attack the whole way through. And that was the
Speaker 3: most uncomfortable viewing because not only was I genuinely terrified,
Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed to signal any terror you know, show
Speaker 3: week and after watching it, I remember thinking, well, maybe
Speaker 3: if I watched it again, I would.
Speaker 4: Be less scared, and I'll watch it again just scared.
Speaker 3: But there was a couple of scenes that stayed out
Speaker 3: in my mind, obviously, the red rum and him writing
Speaker 3: all work and no play next a dull boy, and
Speaker 3: the scene with the decomposing woman in the bathroom, all
Speaker 3: of those images and the twins, the flashing those girls.
Speaker 2: All those twins has that affected you.
Speaker 3: Well, mine aren't identical, so also get them to stand
Speaker 3: still next to each other for any amount of time
Speaker 3: forget or quiet that those images sort of stayed with
Speaker 3: me for decades and ultimately with the Shining. It's probably
Speaker 3: a classic horror film because it is everything's happening in
Speaker 3: your brain.
Speaker 4: Everything is.
Speaker 3: It's all the suspense and the horror that is happening
Speaker 3: is what is in your imagination, rather than like some
Speaker 3: sort of porn gore, you know, like you get with
Speaker 3: sore or yeah, I hate do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: I'm not into that.
Speaker 2: I don't. I'll be a call me old fashioned, but
Speaker 2: I don't like gore with my pawn. I like it,
Speaker 2: just go free. I know I'm a square. I'm a square.
Speaker 3: Listen, Brett, I'm with you. If I'm going to watch gore,
Speaker 3: I don't want porn with it.
Speaker 2: I agree with that as well. That's fair.
Speaker 4: I just want the go to take the porn out.
Speaker 2: Thanks everything in its place.
Speaker 3: Look, people say, listen, Jen, your trouble is you compartmentalized
Speaker 3: too much, And I'm like, I think on this case,
Speaker 3: it's I.
Speaker 2: Think when it comes to poor and porn and poor gorn.
Speaker 2: Separate boxes, Please, separate boxes. Oh, there's some lovely looking
Speaker 2: gore over there. Put that way.
Speaker 4: Lovely looking porn. Great, I know which one I'm going
Speaker 4: to tackle first.
Speaker 2: Sorry, did we see that porn? It was very lovely looking.
Speaker 2: Actually it was lovely looking porn. Thank you the Internet.
Speaker 2: If you could show a child one film, what would
Speaker 2: it be.
Speaker 3: Well, I'd show them any number of films, but the
Speaker 3: Muppets and probably the Muppet Christmas Carol, basically the Muppet
Speaker 3: Christmas Carol. I remember I bought it for the kids
Speaker 3: last Christmas and I put it on and I said, kids,
Speaker 3: this is a film that I used to watch.
Speaker 4: When I was little, and I loved it. And then
Speaker 4: I realized it was made in nineteen ninety two and
Speaker 4: I was seventeen, so I thought, hang on a second, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you weren't little we used to watch that.
Speaker 3: You were heading towards being an adult. You complete tree.
Speaker 3: So that just says a lot about me. But I
Speaker 3: watched that at seventeen and loved it. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: stand by the Muppets for everything.
Speaker 4: I think they're fantastic.
Speaker 2: Jimbrister is a twist. If you watch my screen, I pretend,
Speaker 2: Oh we're doing a film point because I'm so vertigo.
Speaker 3: Oh you've got the Muppets on your wall?
Speaker 4: Where did you get that from? I want that, I wanted.
Speaker 3: Oh so you did enjoy a lot of the the
Speaker 3: Pasters gives them to me.
Speaker 2: Look, I talk about it five too much, so I'm
Speaker 2: not going to. But let's keep it brief, just so
Speaker 2: you know. I genuinely believe that The Map of Christmas
Speaker 2: Carol is probably the greatest film ever made.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Brad, this is why you're my husband.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is how I think what our relationship is
Speaker 3: built on is all love of the Muppets.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I watch it at least once a year. You know,
Speaker 2: I've seen it a lot. I've seen it, I've studied it.
Speaker 2: I've seen it at say, thirty times minimum. And it's
Speaker 2: fucking every aspect, directing, writing, acting, All the Muppets are
Speaker 2: incredible in it. Michaelclain's best performance he ever gave. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a story, Christmas Carol is the greatest story ever told.
Speaker 4: That's what I was going to say. I don't think
Speaker 4: you can you can beat that for a Christmas parable?
Speaker 4: Can you?
Speaker 3: That is like, that is the best possible story for Christmas.
Speaker 3: I've showed it to my kids and fifteen minutes and
Speaker 3: they were born and walked off. But this year I
Speaker 3: think that they're going to be They're going to tap
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 2: Jemfer, Is that right? God? I've loved hanging out of you,
Speaker 2: and I want to do longer, but we can't because
Speaker 2: you have You've got to go and pick up the
Speaker 2: kids from they've just been. You've left them at a
Speaker 2: school gate where there's no school lining.
Speaker 3: Well, I've got a plastic cup, right, We've already established that,
Speaker 3: so I keep going on about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's true. Now I've brought you back to life,
Speaker 2: and I haven't decided. I think I'm going to let
Speaker 2: you live a while longer and you just in case
Speaker 2: something were to happen. There's a lawyer who'd like to know,
Speaker 2: what if you could have one DVD to leave to
Speaker 2: your loved ones in your will, what would it be?
Speaker 4: It would have to be Muppet's Christmas Caw. I have
Speaker 4: to be. I don't understand how I could go.
Speaker 2: I might. I might kill you again just so that
Speaker 2: your loved ones get that film. Well, think about it.
Speaker 2: I think about I'm going to leave you to live
Speaker 2: for just now.
Speaker 4: It's relief actually because I don't know if you've noticed,
Speaker 4: but I've just hit the middle of the road and
Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't want to go back town.
Speaker 2: I can, yeah, exactly basically, Jennifer Bister. Is there anything
Speaker 2: people should look out for? Is there any car parks
Speaker 2: they should be driving to? Is there anything you would
Speaker 2: like to plug?
Speaker 3: I had my book The Other Mother. Please do my book.
Speaker 3: It's available all good bookshops. I have a special on
Speaker 3: Soho on demand and next up called Meaningless and Right?
Speaker 4: Is it okay? Can I plug my podcast? Is that absolutely? Oh?
Speaker 2: Of course you can and you should that.
Speaker 3: I have a podcast which I do with Allison Junie
Speaker 3: Smith and Moore and Younger called w TB, which is
Speaker 3: an acronym for Women Talking Bollocks, which you can pick
Speaker 3: up wherever you get your podcasts, and you can pick
Speaker 3: it up, pick it, pick her out, picket you can.
Speaker 4: You don't pick podcasts up, do you? You listen to them?
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: If you put down your phone, you could pick it
Speaker 2: up and listen.
Speaker 4: If you put down your phone and it's on your phone,
Speaker 4: then you.
Speaker 2: Can pick it, pick up a podcast. I love you.
Speaker 4: I love you. That's why we're married.
Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this again. You've been in an
Speaker 2: absolute dream boat, Brett.
Speaker 4: It's been a bloody pleasure.
Speaker 3: This is the only time I've ever been invited back
Speaker 3: onto a podcast. This may be the only time I'll
Speaker 3: ever be invited back on and it's been an absolute
Speaker 3: blinking treat.
Speaker 2: Let's just say there might be a trilogy. Have a
Speaker 2: wonderful life. I stop the recording there, Goodbye.
Speaker 4: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: So that was Episode two hundred and seventy one. Films
Speaker 1: to be buried with previously known as episode one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifteen. Please visit Brett's Patreon page at patreon dot
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Speaker 1: There's a huge archive there. It started a little way
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Speaker 1: so much to Jen for being resurrected on this rewine classic.
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Speaker 1: to me for editing and production, which I'm getting used
Speaker 1: to saying as a sentence at the end of the year.
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Speaker 1: it for now, have a lovely week, and please, now
Speaker 1: more than ever, be excellent to each others.
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