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Speaker 1: is a pisco company from sisters Melanie Asher and Lizzie,

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Speaker 1: who are on Instagram by the way, as spirit sisters.

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Speaker 1: They have a lot, they have good time, according to

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Speaker 1: over this part. But I have a Pisco sour that

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Speaker 1: it for this segment specifically, Okay, beautiful, thank you. This

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Speaker 1: It's delicious. This will be now in my drink list. Cheers, cheers, clink,

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Speaker 1: type of pisco that was made by the sister Melanie

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