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Speaker 1: Well, today's guest is an amazing singer whose powerful voice

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Speaker 1: and unwavering faith have inspired millions around the world. But

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, in her incredible story, joining

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Speaker 1: me around the table is April Simon.

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Speaker 2: How are you here? I'm doing good? Another great story today.

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Speaker 2: It's sad, but it ends up good and it's encouragement.

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Speaker 2: It's going to give hope to the viewers today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Dorothy, there may be people watching today

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Speaker 1: who have lost the loved one. They need to sit down,

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Speaker 1: get a cup of coffee and watch this, don't they exactly?

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Speaker 1: And you know what, there's always purpose in our pain. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's not always.

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Speaker 3: Easy, hord I imagine it was really really hard.

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Speaker 1: But with God you can get through it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is a true testament of his greatness.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Rachel amb Brown, Hi, how are you? I'm good,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the table.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 4: You know, grief is like a megaphone in your own

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Speaker 4: head that only you can hear, and it shows up

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Speaker 4: at all different times. And so I'm excited to glean

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Speaker 4: from our guests today after you know, she went through

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Speaker 4: such a difficult time, and how people can have hope

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Speaker 4: to get through to the other side.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Rebecca lamb Wisse, how are you.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be right next to you? Always happy to

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Speaker 1: This is a really hary topic, heartbreaking story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's heartbreaking.

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Speaker 5: But you know what I think when you go through

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Speaker 5: difficult things and you come out the other side, I

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Speaker 5: think it's really important to share your testimony of how

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Speaker 5: God brought you through so that when someone else goes

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Speaker 5: through something of that magnitude, they know that, hey, if

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Speaker 5: God brought them through, that he can bring me through.

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Speaker 2: Because guy's no respective of person.

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Speaker 1: And that's why she's going to share story, because she

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Speaker 1: wants to encourage others that no matter what happens in life,

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Speaker 1: this life is just stepping stone.

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Speaker 2: To the life to come exactly.

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Speaker 1: Eternity is a long time, and so things happen in

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Speaker 1: time while we're on this earth. But we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about how do we navigate it, how do we

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Speaker 1: get through? It's Cindy Johnson, are you ready? I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: I have my clean X, and I better get their

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 7: But you know, I thank God and just in general

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Speaker 7: people on earth, we could identify more with people's pain

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Speaker 7: than their perfections. We like to show perfection, but the

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Speaker 1: So good Tammy trent Welcome to the table.

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Speaker 2: So happy to be with you, girls, every single one

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Speaker 2: of you. I'm sitting here like, oh my gosh, you've

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Speaker 2: already blessed me the things you've said. It's just I

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Speaker 2: think that's the greatest gift is a community. Yeah. The

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Speaker 2: you're hurting and when you're in pain. Right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be with you and we're so

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Speaker 1: glad to have you here. You know, when tragedy strikes,

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Speaker 1: we have a choice to make. Will we embrace God's

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Speaker 2: Many times get mad at God.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tammy trent Is joined us today to share how

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Speaker 1: God intervened when she found herself alone overseas, grieving a

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Speaker 1: so let's go back and kind of tell the story

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Speaker 2: How did you meet the love of your life? I'll

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Speaker 2: So I got to watch his life, fifteen sixteen year

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Speaker 2: Well, I broke up with him. It was one of

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Speaker 2: But he waited, He waited, and he just knew.

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Speaker 2: It's all in the book. Okay. So Trent drives into

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Speaker 2: It was. It was everything. It was the greatest meal

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had signed my first record deal as Tammy Trent.

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Speaker 2: of it, What is God up to? What am I doing?

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Speaker 2: Where am I supposed to be? What's the will of God?

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Speaker 2: How do I surrender to these things? And I was there,

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Speaker 2: not knowing what he looked like. He didn't know. He

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Speaker 2: He said yes, They said, come with us. He got

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Speaker 2: were originally planning on going to begin the mission trip.

436
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Speaker 2: I walked into the very same hotel room or Trent

437
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Speaker 2: and I were supposed to be there. Now I'm walking

438
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Speaker 2: with my father in law. We got a joining room

439
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Speaker 2: so he could watch out for me through the night.

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Speaker 2: The next day, he went back to the Blue Lagoon

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Speaker 2: to explore. I couldn't go. I stayed behind, of course,

442
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Speaker 2: but I found myself in the bathroom just weeping, just crying. God,

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Speaker 2: do you see this girl? Where are you? Do you

444
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Speaker 2: see me? I need you? I want my mom, I

445
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Speaker 2: want my sister, that touch of a mom I just needed?

446
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Speaker 2: Are you there and you see me?

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Speaker 6: God?

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Speaker 2: Can you just show up for me? Just send me

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Speaker 2: somebody that just would hold me. God, Now ask him

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Speaker 2: for one hundred angels ten, just one that would just

451
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Speaker 2: hold me. And I remember something coming over my spirit.

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Speaker 2: Just move, Holy spirit, move move. And I got out

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Speaker 2: of that bathroom and I started to move through the

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Speaker 2: room and I could hear somebody in the adjoining room,

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Speaker 2: and I made my way over there that opening, and

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Speaker 2: I looked in and I saw this beautiful Jamaican woman

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Speaker 2: standing there and I said, ma'am, could you just come

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Speaker 2: in and make my bed? He's just come in and

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Speaker 2: make my bed. And she looked at me and she said,

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Speaker 2: I have been trying to get to you. I could

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Speaker 2: hear you crying, and I've been trying to get to you.

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Speaker 2: She said, could I just come in and hold you?

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Speaker 1: Loved man?

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Speaker 2: I think I laughed and I cried. I was like, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: and yes, and she walked in. She wrapped her arms

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Speaker 2: around me. She began to pray for me. And I

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Speaker 2: thought to myself, man, I had no idea angels were Hilton.

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Speaker 2: I was keeping outfits, but there I was. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's when the healing began for me. I stepped

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Speaker 2: into it. I let her love me, I let her

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Speaker 2: hold me. She didn't know what had happened in my life.

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Speaker 2: She didn't know why I was crying, But the healing

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Speaker 2: began for me. And it's been a long time. I've

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Speaker 2: walked a road of healing. I've put the hard work in.

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Speaker 2: I've wrestled, I've been angry, I've been disappointed. There's been

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Speaker 2: unmet expectations. I didn't have the family that I thought

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Speaker 2: I would have, that we were preparing for, you know,

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Speaker 2: all the things. But what I've tried to do and

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Speaker 2: this whole journey is I could spend my whole life

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Speaker 2: looking at this what didn't happen, what I didn't get,

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Speaker 2: or I could look at this part of my life

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Speaker 2: and say, God, thank you for what you did give

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Speaker 2: me all the time that I had, but this man

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Speaker 2: that taught me love and what it should look like.

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Speaker 2: And now I know how to recognize the things that

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Speaker 2: I need or that you might bring into my life.

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Speaker 2: I don't have children, but I have my nieces and nephews.

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Speaker 2: I get to pour my life into it. So I've

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Speaker 2: tried to spend my life looking at what I do

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Speaker 2: have rather than what I don't have. And that's when

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Speaker 2: fulfillment comes for me. That's when joy has come from me,

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Speaker 2: and then God putting me on a certain platform of

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Speaker 2: healing where it's all coming back to life again. I

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Speaker 2: choose joy, I choose hope, and I will fight my

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Speaker 2: way through it to get to the other side because

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Speaker 2: I know that. I know that at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, that will always lead me to my final destiny.

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Speaker 2: So good you were.

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Speaker 8: You know, Trent was so foundational for you in your

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Speaker 8: life and with such a helper to you. How did

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Speaker 8: God transition from you having this massive support and love

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Speaker 8: to not having that.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question. I you know, I came off

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Speaker 2: the platform for a whole year because I mainly thought

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Speaker 2: I have nothing to give. And I'm a girl like

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Speaker 2: I can't pretend. I cannot fake it. I can't fake

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Speaker 2: joy if it's there, you know all the things. My

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Speaker 2: heart's on my sleeve. If I'm mad, you're gonna know, right,

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Speaker 2: And I'm okay. I'm okay with that, Like the emotions.

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Speaker 2: Jesus had emotions. So it's how how I you know,

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Speaker 2: prioritize them and navigate them. But I heart of my sleeve,

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Speaker 2: girl is all there. But I knew enough come off

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Speaker 2: the platform. Don't pretend you have something to give if

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Speaker 2: you don't heal heal, heal, and I did that for

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Speaker 2: a year. When I went when women of Faith called

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Speaker 2: and I took that platform, I thought, how am I

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Speaker 2: gonna do that? What do I do? I called my mom?

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Speaker 2: My parents are pastors. Mama, will you come out with me?

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Speaker 2: Will you come alongside me in this season? I don't

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Speaker 2: know what I need, but I know I need you,

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Speaker 2: So will you come alongside me? She said, Babe, I'll

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Speaker 2: be there anytime you need me. So every woman of faith,

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Speaker 2: I've flew my mom out, I flew my sister out,

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Speaker 2: I flew my best friends out. I flew up people

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Speaker 2: from my mom's ministry and women's ministry, so all I

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Speaker 2: surrounded myself. And then God brought a girl into my

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Speaker 2: life who is working with Trent, who was doing website

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Speaker 2: stuff for me. And her name was Anita, and I said,

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Speaker 2: you're working at Thomas Nelson Publishing. I said, how would

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Speaker 2: you like to leave Thomas Nelson and come on the

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Speaker 2: row with me. I'll just teach you all you need

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Speaker 2: to know. I don't know how much I could pay you,

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Speaker 2: but God will take care of us both. How about

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Speaker 2: coming on the road, she said, I'm all in. And

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Speaker 2: she has worked with me now for twenty three almost

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Speaker 2: years alongside me in full time ministry, and she's here today.

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Speaker 2: But a blessing from God that he already began to

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Speaker 2: set that up too, even her knowing Trent, she was

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Speaker 2: working on website ministry stuff for me, already had a heart,

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Speaker 2: and so there we were. God has put us and

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Speaker 2: taken us around the world together. I didn't need a manager,

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Speaker 2: I didn't need a booking agent. I needed a heal

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Speaker 2: and I needed friends and genuine friends that would walk

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Speaker 2: it out with me. She was one of those gifts

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Speaker 2: from God, and we began to do that together. We've

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Speaker 2: seen the world. We've laughed more than we've cried. She

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Speaker 2: could tell my story probably better than I could.

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Speaker 1: She's heard it so many times.

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Speaker 2: But I'm very grateful for the road, as bumpy as

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Speaker 2: it's been. I can see the hand of God. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: I can't. And I couldn't stand on the edge of

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Speaker 2: the water that day and see God's will, and I

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Speaker 2: couldn't see his plan. I thought it all shifted and changed,

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Speaker 2: and my plan changed, of course, But I can tell you,

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Speaker 2: beyond a shadow of doubt, sitting with every one of

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Speaker 2: you girls here today, I have no doubt, and I'm

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Speaker 2: so sincere about it that this has been God's plan

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Speaker 2: for my life and we either you have two choices.

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Speaker 2: You can either step into his plan. You could resist

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Speaker 2: it and fight it your whole life and be angry,

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Speaker 2: or you could just surrender it all the saying, God,

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Speaker 2: help me surrender this to you?

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Speaker 1: So good? Did y'all love this story? Wow? So good,

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Speaker 1: so good, so heartfelt? But we are out of time.

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Speaker 1: I want you to remember that grief is real, but

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Speaker 1: so is God's comfort. Just like Tammy is talking about

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Speaker 1: the Bibles, is that He is close to the broken

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Speaker 1: hearted and saves those who are Chrustian spirit. And you

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Speaker 1: heard her say it. All you have to do is

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Speaker 1: surrender everything to him. As I was sitting here, I

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Speaker 1: really felt like the Holy Suit said, there are women

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Speaker 1: watching that have gone through a divorce and you feel lost,

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Speaker 1: almost like you someone died and it has been a

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Speaker 1: loss in your grieving. And I don't know the circumstances,

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Speaker 1: but I just want you to know that you're not alone.

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Speaker 1: God loves you, and just like he was with Tammy,

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Speaker 1: he will be with you no matter what kind of

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Speaker 1: loss you face. I know so many of you could

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Speaker 1: relate to the story today and if you're watching, you

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Speaker 1: need prayer. That's why that prayer line numbers on the screen.

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Speaker 1: We have amazing prayer partners that are standing by.

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Speaker 2: And if you.

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Speaker 1: Don't know Jesus, Tammy will tell you. That's the most

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Speaker 1: important decision that you can make today, just to invite

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Speaker 1: him into your heart and say, Jesus forgive me comingto

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Speaker 1: my heart. I'm going to surrender all this stuff to

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Speaker 1: you and be lord of my life. I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: start a new life serving you. And I'm just telling

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Speaker 1: you everything will change because you won't be alone. You

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Speaker 1: will have Jesus with you. That's a beautiful thing about

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Speaker 1: praying that prayer. But the most important thing about that

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Speaker 1: prayer is that it prepares you for eternity. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's no way that Trent knew that he was going

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Speaker 1: to be promoted to heaven that day. Thankfully he knew

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Speaker 1: the Lord, so we know where he is. We're going

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Speaker 1: to see him again. We want to make sure we

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Speaker 1: see you again. So if you haven't invited Jesus into

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Speaker 1: your heart, do that right now. The most important decision

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Speaker 1: you can make. Well, I want to thank Tammy for

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Speaker 1: joining us today, be sure you pick up a copy

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Speaker 1: of her book, Learning to Breathe Again.

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Speaker 2: You tell the whole story. It's all in there and

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Speaker 2: for more.

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Speaker 1: You can visit her online at Tammy Trent dot com

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Speaker 1: and it's always. Make sure to follow us on all

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Speaker 1: social media. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full episodes

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Speaker 1: and exclusive content, and let us know how table Talk

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Speaker 1: is touching your life. We love hearing from all of you.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you can also listen to the Jony Tabletalk podcast,

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Speaker 1: available now on all the major platforms. But I want

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Speaker 1: to thank you so much for watching. Thank you ladies,

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Speaker 1: so heartfelt today it's a little somber because we are

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Speaker 1: just feeling tammy story and for many of you that

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Speaker 1: are watching, we're feeling what you've gone through.

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Speaker 2: I want you to know it's going to be okay.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be okay.

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Speaker 1: We love you. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 9: Bye bye for today.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, if God's word promises salvation for our families,

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Speaker 1: why have so many Christians given up?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well, today's guest, I'm going to share how we can

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Speaker 1: move from doubt to confident expectation, trusting God to redeem

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Speaker 1: and restore our loved ones, and I'm going to believe

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Speaker 1: with you for your loved ones to come into a

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Speaker 1: personal relationship with the Lord, and we're going to believe

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Speaker 1: with you. So stay right there. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about that. But before we get to that, joining around

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Speaker 1: the tables, April Simon's how are you.

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Speaker 7: I'm doing great, And I believe that scripture his faithfulness is.

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Speaker 2: From generation to generation.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not going to give up on my family

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Speaker 7: or my kids, kids to thousand generations.

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Speaker 1: And all of us can think of someone either in

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Speaker 1: our family or friend or neighbor that we're believing for,

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Speaker 1: and we need to keep praying for.

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Speaker 2: Right, don't give a yeah never and a kindle yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Household salvation, you know, I think it is the cry

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Speaker 2: of every Christian's heart that my family and my household

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Speaker 2: will be saved. This is such an important show today

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 1: Rachel Lamb Brown, our guest today, has a great story

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Speaker 1: of household salvation from his own family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think it's so crazy what one transformed life can do,

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Speaker 4: the impact that it can have on generations. And that's

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Speaker 4: the story of our guests today, and it's so encouraging

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Speaker 4: if it can happen for him and his family. I

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Speaker 4: believe for you guys that are still believing and watching today,

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Speaker 4: it can happen for you and your family as well.

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Speaker 1: That's a good word. Georgine Needing, how are you?

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Speaker 10: I'm doing so good, you know.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about our guests. Why because the joy

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Speaker 3: of the Lord is all over him and he's and

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Speaker 3: it's like it's contagious every time, you know, just being

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Speaker 3: around him, I realize Tom is a lessence. We need

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Speaker 3: to share Christ with everybody we do. It's such an

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Speaker 3: encouragement and inspiration. So I'm excited, all right.

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Speaker 1: Cindy Johnson, Hey, we got people we're believing for.

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Speaker 7: Yes, continually believing for Yeah. The thought came to me

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Speaker 7: that as much as we love our family members, God's

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Speaker 7: love is so much greater than that, and he wants

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Speaker 7: that as well, and He will put each one of

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Speaker 7: us in the right place at the right time.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Well, Philip Cameron, welcome back to the table.

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Speaker 6: I've done something right. I got in fighting back. I

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Speaker 6: accomblish something in my life.

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Speaker 1: You did you did?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: After a life changing prophetic vision, Philip Cameron realized that

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Speaker 1: household salvation wasn't just possible, it was his God given right.

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Speaker 1: Today he's here to share course how you can pray

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Speaker 1: for your family and faith and see God's promises fulfilled.

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Speaker 1: We have to go back and hear a little bit

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Speaker 1: of your story because the Cameron family was quite interesting

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Speaker 1: as it relates to their relationship with God.

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Speaker 2: Right, so tell us about it.

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Speaker 6: Our family were the tone of drunks.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 6: Basically there you have it all Scotland. Yeah, and are

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Speaker 6: we fishing towne.

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Speaker 10: My grandfather, my great grandfather, in a drunken state. One

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Speaker 10: time the police went to arrest him in the harbor

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Speaker 10: that he was down in the harbor, and he threw

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Speaker 10: them all into the harbor, through the cops in the

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Speaker 10: harbor and then walked up to the police station and

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Speaker 10: got into a shell, just waiting for them to come

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Speaker 10: out of the harbor.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's how bad it was.

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Speaker 10: My grandfather would go on six week drunken binges, and

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Speaker 10: my granny, with six kids.

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Speaker 6: To feed, she would go out.

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Speaker 10: She would go down to the harbor and and beg

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Speaker 10: for fish from the fishermen and then take that fish

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Speaker 10: and walk around miles and miles around the farms and

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Speaker 10: get eggs and barter with the farmers.

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Speaker 6: Just to keep our kids, our kids together.

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Speaker 10: And so we were known in our town. I mean,

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Speaker 10: we were the drunks you just kept away from the cameras.

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Speaker 10: In fact, in our town, the older people, the really

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Speaker 10: old folks.

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Speaker 6: Today most of them have got gone now.

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Speaker 10: But when I was a young boy, they rarely ever,

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Speaker 10: they couldn't forgive God.

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Speaker 6: For forgiving us. They would say the truth, and then

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Speaker 6: they found out.

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Speaker 10: My dad would preach, oh my God, you know, and

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Speaker 10: then he was ana, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: And God couldn't have done that for a can.

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Speaker 10: But the great thing of a God is he is

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Speaker 10: no respect to a passions. And when you come to

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Speaker 10: him and you believe that he's an awarder of them

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Speaker 10: that diligently seek him, then the realm and the possibility

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Speaker 10: of household salvation unfolds before you.

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Speaker 6: I'm a dad.

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Speaker 10: I've got four kids, and I've got ten grandkids, and

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Speaker 10: I can't I can't talk to God on his strength

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Speaker 10: or his wisdom or his knowledge.

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Speaker 6: But he's a dad, and so am I.

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Speaker 10: So on that commonality, I understand the massive thought that

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Speaker 10: great old hymn all the love that dru Salvation's plan,

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Speaker 10: all the grace that brought it down to man, all

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Speaker 10: the mighty gulf that God did spand and for him

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Speaker 10: to give his boy away to be butchered on a cross.

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Speaker 10: God's value is not just to get knee saved. It's

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Speaker 10: for you and your household.

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Speaker 1: And that's what God did. He sent his only son

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Speaker 1: to din across for our sins so that we can

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Speaker 1: have eternal life. This so Philip is talking about. So

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Speaker 1: people are saying, okay, well, what happened to the Cameron family.

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Speaker 1: What was the turnaround?

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Speaker 6: My uncle Michael had saved.

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Speaker 10: He was working on an American boat that had been

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Speaker 10: interpreted by the Nazis up in the north of Scotland

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Speaker 10: and they were cutting in pieces and take the metal

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Speaker 10: back down to the remunitions factory in Birmingham. And these

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Speaker 10: young guys went to this little island called Stroma google

738
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Speaker 10: it Stroma Island, and these Calvinistic people were there, and

739
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Speaker 10: these lowlanders came and drank and were wild guys.

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Speaker 6: My uncle was one of them.

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Speaker 10: And every weekend you take a bus a rowing boat

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Speaker 10: from the island to the bus station and then the

743
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Speaker 10: bus station down to Wick.

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Speaker 6: Where the bar was.

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Speaker 10: And one time he was sitting in this cafe waiting

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Speaker 10: for the bus to come, and there's salt and pepper

747
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Speaker 10: shakers on the table, and there's a week piece of

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Speaker 10: paper and he picked it up and he began to

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Speaker 10: read it, and it says for God, soul of the world.

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Speaker 10: Never had been in church, never heard the Gospel, never

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Speaker 10: read a Bible, never seen a bible, didn't know what

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Speaker 10: a Bible was. And the Holy Ghost fell on him

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Speaker 10: in this little tea room and he began to weep.

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Speaker 10: And the wairess came back with his tea, and she

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Speaker 10: put the tea down and she says, son, are you saved?

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Speaker 6: And he didn't know the final statement of it.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's like, you know, the man in the

758
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Speaker 10: middle told me to get here. That's and he says,

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Speaker 10: I I'm saved, I'm saved.

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Speaker 6: And he got on. His next weekend passed.

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Speaker 10: He took the bus all the week to our week

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Speaker 10: town and called Peterhead in Scotland, and he stood in

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Speaker 10: my walked to my mom's, my gama's kitchen and said,

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Speaker 10: we don't have to live like we're living.

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Speaker 6: Jesus can change this. And they thought he had lost

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Speaker 6: his mind.

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Speaker 1: And then what happened.

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Speaker 10: Seven years of abuse, mocked, ridiculed, and two young preachers

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Speaker 10: came to our town. My dad was now in the

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Speaker 10: army in Italy, and my mom had a sister in

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Speaker 10: law called Chrissy, and Chrissy was quite a quite a case,

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Speaker 10: and my mother, being Anglican, thought she needs some of

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Speaker 10: this religion that these.

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Speaker 6: Two boys are preaching.

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Speaker 10: There's two young boys having a cities of meetings six

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Speaker 10: weeks in someone's bedroom, and there did no place to go,

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Speaker 10: and my mom took Chrissy.

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Speaker 1: So these two young creatures came to your town, and

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Speaker 1: the man for six weeks his home up and moved

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Speaker 1: to bed and all the furniture out, put chersa and

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Speaker 1: people started coming.

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Speaker 10: Ninety six folk got saved, sixty seven got were camerons.

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Speaker 2: Oh my my mom was one.

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Speaker 10: And my aunt de Chrissy, who Leslie's grandma, was the other.

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Speaker 10: And so my mom wrote my dad, I've given my

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Speaker 10: life to Jesus. And he thought she was having an

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Speaker 10: affair with a guy called Jesus. And I'm told her

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Speaker 10: in no uncertain terms what he was going to do

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Speaker 10: when he get out of the army, and she pulled

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Speaker 10: him over Jesus and who God's son. And he came

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Speaker 10: back home and he gave her.

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Speaker 1: Hell and he said this is crazy anyone to have

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Speaker 1: anything to.

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Speaker 10: Do with it, banned her from going to church. If

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Speaker 10: you read our bible, he would tear it and have

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Speaker 10: her throat outside. If he caught her praying, he would

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Speaker 10: kick her and say get off her knees and stop that.

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Speaker 6: Non So what happened seven years past?

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Speaker 10: So it was seven years from Uncle Michael before the

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Speaker 10: first cameras got saved, and then my mom got saved,

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Speaker 10: and there were seven more years.

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Speaker 1: It's just like Jacob waiting.

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Speaker 10: And one day they had a big fight. He'd gone

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Speaker 10: home for lunch and did a big fight. He was

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Speaker 10: the one that was doing the fighting. And I'm done

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Speaker 10: with you. I'm done with this God thing. I'm sick

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Speaker 10: of it. He's ruined my life. Were done and he

808
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Speaker 10: left him back to work, and while he was working,

809
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Speaker 10: my mom gave him up. Said I can't take any

810
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Speaker 10: more abuse.

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Speaker 6: I can't take it.

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Speaker 1: Basically told the Lord, I can't do this done.

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Speaker 6: And I know there's someone watching the day. There's been

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Speaker 6: fighting the battle and the battle is not yours.

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Speaker 10: It's the Lord's You have the ability to roll your

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Speaker 10: cares upon him because he cares for you.

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Speaker 6: In the moment you do that. You're not the person responsible.

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Speaker 6: He is.

819
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Speaker 10: You're a partner with him for household salvation. So my

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Speaker 10: dad was working at thirteen saw and started shaking, and

821
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Speaker 10: he's trying to put the saw the wood at the

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Speaker 10: end of the saw.

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Speaker 1: And this is in the factory, and the factory was dangerous,

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 10: And my uncle walked past, Uncle John and says, Simon,

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Speaker 10: what's wrong with you? And he's standing is weeping, and

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Speaker 10: then I can, and then I can.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 10: And he took him off the saw and took him

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Speaker 10: up to the office, sent for my granny, his mom,

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Speaker 10: and she came in, what's wrong with you, Simon, I

832
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Speaker 10: don't care.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think I can.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. Then I can't know. Then I can't,

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Speaker 6: I don't know. It's Scottish. I don't know.

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Speaker 10: And they put him in a car and drove him

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Speaker 10: back to my mom and they came in crying, and

838
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 10: he played so much tricks on her, playing the game

839
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Speaker 10: with her, and she when at first she.

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Speaker 6: And all of a sudden he started.

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Speaker 10: He started saying, I'm not worthy, Windy, I'm not worthy,

842
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Speaker 10: I'm not worthy.

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Speaker 2: When and she felt the anointing because she.

844
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Speaker 6: Went, what words is this coming out of his mouth?

845
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Speaker 6: I'm not worthy? And my mother, she says, I know

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Speaker 6: it's wrong with you, Simon Cameron. The holy ghost got

847
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Speaker 6: a hold of you.

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Speaker 10: And instead of slapping her, he looked at her as

849
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Speaker 10: if to say, what do I do? And she says,

850
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Speaker 10: if you call upon the name of the Lord, you'll

851
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 10: be saved. And he began to cry, shouting because she

852
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 10: thought calling Jesus, Jesus attacked me.

853
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Speaker 6: Jesus tack me.

854
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 10: Jesus attacked me, and Jesus took him, and she prayed

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Speaker 10: with him. And they were living in a wooden shock,

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Speaker 10: a great part of the story, a twelve or six

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Speaker 10: wooden hu and there's a single wire with a light

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Speaker 10: that turnbull buckle on it, and it was so dark

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Speaker 10: and didn't that was.

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Speaker 6: All the time.

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Speaker 10: And when he opened his eyes, he thought that the

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Speaker 10: lights had been turned on double power.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow wow.

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Speaker 10: He went outside of this little shock, and he was

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Speaker 10: convinced that the birds were singing in the trees that

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Speaker 10: Simon Cameron had been reconciled to God.

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Speaker 1: Everything was brighter, everything, everything was changed instantly, and he

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Speaker 1: was dramatically changed. When I met your dad years later,

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Speaker 1: when you would be in America, he was an on fire.

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Speaker 2: I mean so.

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Speaker 1: And y'all traveled administered all over America, saying the Holy

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Speaker 1: so many times. Absolutely, tell quickly the story of how

873
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: he got you involved in going to Moldova in Romania

874
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: and just rescuing kids and girls, and I mean just

875
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: it would have never happened, never happened without Simon.

876
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 10: I'm sitting in my house in Montgomery, All I just

877
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 10: up the street from where you and.

878
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 6: Marcus are living. And my phone rang.

879
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 10: And I picked up the phone six o'clock at night,

880
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 10: midnight in Scotland.

881
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 6: I says hello.

882
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 10: He says that our baby's dying. He says, what do

883
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 10: you talk now? He says, Philip, I'm watching the BBC

884
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 10: and there are babies, there are thousands of orphans dying.

885
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 10: And he's had cancer surgery and the wounds burst on

886
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 10: his back a melanoma and we don't know if whether

887
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 10: it's spread or not.

888
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 6: He says.

889
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: He had read hair.

890
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, he says, and my dad had a motto,

891
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 10: why have a dog and bark yourself?

892
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: Woof.

893
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 10: When he got the when he got the job, I

894
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 10: got when he got the calling, I got the job.

895
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 6: So he said me, what do you plan to do?

896
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 6: I says, I'm not doing nothing.

897
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 10: I said, squares remainia. Is that one night you're coming?

898
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 10: It comes from he says I. He says, we've got

899
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 10: to help. I says, Dad, you are sick and I

900
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 10: am busy.

901
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 6: Leave it alone.

902
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Oh, because you're full time in ministry.

903
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 6: We're building a Bible school in Scotland.

904
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 10: I'm on TV all the time with the book Household

905
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 10: Salvation sold three hundred thousand copies. The last thing I

906
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 10: wanted to do was to go to Romania and freezing.

907
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 6: The next day.

908
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 10: Next night he says, there are babies dying. I said,

909
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 10: you told me that yesterday, Dad, leave me alone. Next

910
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 10: night that our babies dying. Thursday night he calls me, Well,

911
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 10: if you're not going to go, I'm going to go myself.

912
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 6: And if I die on the way, it is your fault.

913
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 10: I says, all behavior yourself, man, I says, I'll come.

914
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 10: So I canceled services flew home to Scotland. The local

915
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 10: press I'm cancer stricten pastor to go to scot Romania. Well,

916
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 10: our whole town started giving us tons of food and

917
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 10: tons and tons of clothes and.

918
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 6: Clothes and stuff.

919
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Because of the wonder time. Yeah it was. It was

920
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: brutal cold, and you still had to drive how far twenty.

921
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 6: Five hundred miles all the way across Europe.

922
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 10: Oh my unbelievable circumstances. I can't tell you. Seven of

923
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 10: us in this little van. And we got to this

924
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 10: place and my dad had a hole in his back

925
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 10: and he's sitting and he wouldn't he wouldn't lie down.

926
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 10: He would sit all the time, and obviously in agony.

927
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 10: And every time I wanted to complain, I looked at

928
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 10: him and thought, don't say nothing, just go. So we

929
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 10: finally got to Timishwara and we found this orphanage and

930
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 10: the church we dropped this stuff off at gave it

931
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 10: all the way to their own people.

932
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: And I had nothing to give to the orphans. No.

933
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 10: I had one box of powdered milk and that was it.

934
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 10: So we get to the place and we walk in

935
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 10: this door and we opened these rattling metal doors, freezing cold.

936
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 10: Gosh walked in and the smell of ammonia in human

937
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 10: waste hit me like a punch in the gut and

938
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 10: I almost threw up on the floor and I dropped

939
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 10: the box and I ran outside, went back to the van.

940
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 10: I'm winning against the hood. And he came out and

941
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 10: he says, come on, get in.

942
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 6: I says, no, no, no, no, no no. I'm not

943
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 6: going anywhere. Leave me alone. I'm not going.

944
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 10: He says, get in. He says, these folks live like this.

945
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 10: You're insulting them. I says, Dad, you asked for an orphanage.

946
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 6: There it is.

947
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 10: Off you go, and I'll be here waiting for you

948
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 10: when you get out. I says, if I stay here,

949
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 10: I'm innocent. If I go in there, I am guilty. Well,

950
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 10: he grabbed me by the sleeve of my jacket and

951
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 10: he says, well, you're going to have to be guilty.

952
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 10: And he hauled me into hell screaming. Kids all rocking

953
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 10: like this in the cribs, no diapers, no heat, two

954
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 10: hundred kids and.

955
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 6: Change my life. I was.

956
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: I became guilty, and you went up the stairs.

957
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 6: Went up the stairs.

958
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 10: It's salt number five on the left hand side, and

959
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 10: there's like with thirty kids the window, and then there's

960
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 10: a row, and then two rows of cribs in a space,

961
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 10: and then two rows of cribs in a space. And

962
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 10: I walked in and my dad went in the door

963
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 10: and stopped, so I went behind him, so I was

964
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 10: further in the room than him, looking through this dorty

965
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 10: windows that were all rattling because it had me put

966
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 10: in place properly. And I looked at this media kids

967
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 10: screaming and rocking and filthy. That's terrible to say, but

968
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 10: they're messing their cribs.

969
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 6: No one cared.

970
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 10: And they would flip from their cryp to the next

971
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 10: crib and then the next crypt to this crib and

972
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 10: that crib, so they.

973
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 6: Were all covered in waisted was their hair face.

974
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 10: And I'm standing and in the middle of this hell

975
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 10: this wee faces looking. He's got his hands on his

976
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 10: crib and he's looking up towards me and he's sucking

977
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 10: his cheeks in looking and the holygo said that's your son,

978
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 10: as clear as any voice. So I said, Dad, look

979
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 10: at that boy. He says, Alway's a bonnie boy. I says, no,

980
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 10: I said, God wants me to adopt him. And you've

981
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 10: got to understand. I two kids, Philip and Melody, and

982
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 10: I was done. I preached about having any more than

983
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 10: two kids. You know, be careful what you preach about, folks,

984
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 10: Be careful, that's right.

985
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 6: So I went down.

986
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 10: I squeezed my way down through the cribs and picked

987
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 10: this wee thing up, naked from the waist down, covered

988
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 10: and he started talking like this, and he's talking with

989
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 10: his hair because it's all puss. And he said, no

990
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 10: one I'd ever talked to him. His hands he couldn't

991
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 10: move his hands. His hands were like flippers. Couldn't climb up.

992
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 10: He could barely have climbed up these stairs at three

993
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 10: years of age wearing eighteen month old clothes. And I said, look,

994
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 10: I said, I don't know who you are, and I

995
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 10: don't know how you got here, but I promise you

996
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 10: I will never stop until I get you and make

997
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 10: you my own.

998
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 6: And I took him out and played with him.

999
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 10: I gave him an apple, and my sister, well, my

1000
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 10: sister gave me an apple, and he ate this thing

1001
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 10: just like this, like it was it was on a leafe,

1002
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 10: and he ate the whole thing down to the to

1003
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 10: the seeds, and it popped out of his hand on

1004
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 10: the floor, and he tried to get away from me

1005
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 10: to get to get the seeds. He was so hungry,

1006
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 10: and I was. I was back in three weeks standing

1007
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 10: there crying.

1008
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: Because then you're going to have to help the rest

1009
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: of children. Because if the roof had a lake water

1010
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: running down the wall, needed new mattresses, You needed diapers,

1011
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: They needed.

1012
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 10: All the paint, All the cribs of the teethed on

1013
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 10: lead paint. They had no toilets. The coffee cans they'd

1014
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 10: used these big coffee cans that had been opened by

1015
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 10: a can opener, so all their bottoms had this jagged

1016
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 10: cut around with it fester. And so every time I

1017
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 10: went back, I came away with an assignment and I cried.

1018
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 6: I cried the Joni and said you gotta help me,

1019
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 6: Please pray for me. And I kept going back.

1020
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 10: I've been there two hundred and ten times.

1021
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: But how did it change? And you eventually got Andrew

1022
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: who now has grown by the way and works in

1023
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: ministry with his dad.

1024
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: He's married, got.

1025
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: Beautiful little baby in one baby and one another one on

1026
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: the way. But the other lives of the kids were

1027
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: changed when you got.

1028
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 6: Involved oh, well, everything changed.

1029
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing all started with Simon, who

1030
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: no one believed could ever be redeemed or saved. And

1031
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: God did a credible work in his life changed the

1032
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: whole course of this family. And he and he knew,

1033
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: like prophetically y'all were supposed to go and that you

1034
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: were going to be a part in it. Forever changed

1035
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: your life whatever.

1036
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 10: I was known in America for singing these praise songs.

1037
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 10: And then I preached the Household Salvation, sold three hundred

1038
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 10: thousand copies of one book, which is a good selle

1039
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 10: of our Christian book.

1040
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: And I was set.

1041
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 10: I was thirty five, living in Montgomery with a pool

1042
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 10: in my backyard. Ver seized in the drive, and I

1043
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 10: preached in churches and I flew into telethons. I mean,

1044
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 10: you guys lived me this experience, and he came in

1045
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 10: and interrupted my world.

1046
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 6: Yes, and thank god he did.

1047
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: And what happened because we only have a few minutes,

1048
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: but just share with our audience some of the doors

1049
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: that have opened in what you're doing right now, beyond

1050
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: just that orphanage and the difference you may well.

1051
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 10: One day you called me, he says, don't stay in Romania.

1052
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 10: I wanted to go to Moldova. I says, where in

1053
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 10: the name of heavens is Moldova.

1054
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 6: He said, I'm looking on the map. It says one

1055
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 6: more country over. I said that. I says, one more

1056
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 6: country over. He says it's not.

1057
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 10: I says, I can put the whole globe in a

1058
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 10: tennis bold so.

1059
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure you.

1060
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 10: I rented a car in Budapest, drove to Romania with

1061
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 10: a team with a truck giving out stuff in Romania,

1062
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 10: and headed across Romania cuddy corners towards Moldova. And it

1063
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 10: was it was across the Carpathian mountains and a blizzard.

1064
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 10: And got to this place town, a town, and it

1065
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 10: was called the Dying Rooms of Moldova was the name

1066
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 10: of this village. That's what the British press had named it.

1067
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 10: And I went to this orphanage, walked in and it

1068
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 10: was worse than Romania.

1069
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: Oh no.

1070
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 10: And the director said, have you ever seen a baby

1071
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 10: freeze to death? And my stomach turned and I says, no, sir,

1072
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 10: I have not. He said, well, this year so far,

1073
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 10: sixteenth of December, he says, this year, so far, sixteen

1074
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 10: of our children have frozen to death, their skin stuck

1075
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 10: to the nettle bars of the crib. And I started

1076
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 10: all over again, all over again, rebuilt orphanages, put in

1077
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 10: windows and orphanages, and then one.

1078
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: Day blankets, mattresses, creative.

1079
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 10: You guys have helped us so many times with warm clothes,

1080
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 10: and so what happened was that we fixed this orphanage up.

1081
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 10: And one day the government came and asked me to

1082
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 10: go and see the.

1083
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 6: Largest orphanage in a town calleds to Shane. And I

1084
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 6: got there.

1085
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 10: In the windows, there's three hundred and ninety one windows

1086
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 10: and they were so rotten you could put your finger

1087
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 10: through them, and there were snow inside the bedrooms. And

1088
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 10: I fixed all the windows, replaced them all and went

1089
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 10: back to pay the last part of the payment.

1090
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Speaker 6: Me and Chris were standing there.

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Speaker 10: There's eighteen girls in a park bench and I said.

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Speaker 6: Who are they? They were leaving, where are they going

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Speaker 6: to go?

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Speaker 10: And the director went And that was how I discovered

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Speaker 10: that a girl at sixteen was trafficked.

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Speaker 1: And you couldn't stay in the orphan couldn't in the

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Speaker 1: orphanage for them out there, used them.

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Speaker 10: Used them fifty times a day, thirty to fifty times,

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Speaker 10: a day. Every girl can make three hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 10: a year for the traffickers. And I just I got kids,

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Speaker 10: you know, Melody and Laura Ann, and I just it

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Speaker 10: just the injustice of the way.

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Speaker 1: Then you had to make a home. So here we

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Speaker 1: go make it for the girls that are sixteen in

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Speaker 1: a pride.

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Speaker 10: So we've now built a village called Vakra Village, the

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Speaker 10: most amazing place.

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Speaker 6: It was built for rich people.

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Speaker 10: And they poison the lake with chlorine to kill algae.

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Speaker 10: And no one wanted to live in a house next

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Speaker 10: to the algae, eded to the poison lake. So we

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Speaker 10: bought it from them, fixed it all up.

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Speaker 11: And because Simon said, Philip, I love that love that obedience.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Well, if you use Simon cammeron the obedience

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Speaker 10: is there was not much wiggle room in obedience.

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Speaker 6: You know, it was not choice. You will do this

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Speaker 6: or you'll die.

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Speaker 1: You're coming with me. What a great man of God

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Speaker 1: your dad was, and what a great heritage, and you

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Speaker 1: look at how your family was transformed. Just take a moment,

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Speaker 1: if you would, Philip, and lead someone that maybe doesn't

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Speaker 1: know the Lord in the Sinner's prayer. We'll repeat after you.

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Speaker 6: I know this.

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Speaker 10: There are some watching me right now that you If

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Speaker 10: you would have died today, you're hearsh, not right with

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Speaker 10: the Lord. You'd be lost, do you know? Do you

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Speaker 10: know how terrible being lost is when you could be found.

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Speaker 10: I come from a fishing town, and we lose fishing

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Speaker 10: boats all the time in the storms. You're watching just

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Speaker 10: because God has a plan.

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Speaker 6: For your life.

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Speaker 10: He wants to use you for his glory, and he

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Speaker 10: wants to bring you into his family. I haven't talked

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Speaker 10: about my own family, a bunch of alcoholics and then

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Speaker 10: being a father to orphan.

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Speaker 6: Kids, and the family makes a difference.

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Speaker 10: And God loved you so much that he gave his

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Speaker 10: only begotten son to die on a cross.

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Speaker 6: Just for you.

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Speaker 10: If you're the only person in the world today he

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Speaker 10: would have died for you alone.

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Speaker 6: And all you got to do is believe that he

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Speaker 6: died on.

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Speaker 10: The cross for you, that his death was payment for

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00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 10: your sin. And if you accept that and you ask

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00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 10: Jesus into your heart, I'm telling you now you'll never

1147
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 10: be the same again. Just say this simple prayer with me.

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00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 10: Dear Lord, Jesus, come into my heart.

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Speaker 2: Come into my heart.

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Speaker 10: I give you my heart and my life, forgive me

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Speaker 10: of my sin.

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Speaker 6: I will serve you from today on.

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Speaker 2: I will.

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Speaker 10: If you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you shall

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Speaker 10: be saved.

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Speaker 6: And that's what just happened.

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 1: Amen. It's such a simple yet profound moment for some

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Speaker 1: of you right now. And I'm so proud of you

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Speaker 1: for praying that prayer and opening your heart allowing the

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Speaker 1: Lord to come in and forgive you. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to send you the Gospel of John. If

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Speaker 1: you prayed that prayer, that's just a great place to

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Speaker 1: start in the Bible. So call that number on the screen,

1165
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Speaker 1: let us know if you prayed that prayer with Philip.

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Speaker 1: We are out of time, but I don't you remember

1167
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Speaker 1: that God's word is unshakable. His promise of household salvation

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Speaker 1: still stands for us and our families. If you're watching

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Speaker 1: today and you're believing for a family member or someone

1170
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: you know, a coworker, a neighbor that doesn't know the Lord,

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Speaker 1: and you're praying for them, I want you to go

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Speaker 1: to the phone and just give us their first name

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00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: and we're going to pray over the contact. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: is a point of contact. Our prayer partners are standing by.

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Speaker 1: They're ready to pray with you, and we just counted

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Speaker 1: an honor and a privilege to do so. I do

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Speaker 1: want to thank Philip for joining us today. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to pick up a copy of his book. Uh it

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Speaker 1: is called Full House It's Time for Household Salvation. For more,

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Speaker 1: you can visit him online at Philip Dcameron dot com.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to encourage you. You've heard him

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Speaker 1: talk about the different things that he's doing in Moltdova

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Speaker 1: in Romania, in building a new house.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Brian, new house for little girls between age of

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Speaker 10: four and sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So if the Lord speaks to you to be

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Speaker 1: a part of that, then I pray that you will

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Speaker 1: just be obedient to do what the Lord is asking

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Speaker 1: you to do. As always, make sure to follow us

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Speaker 1: on social media. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full

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Speaker 1: episodes and exclusive content, and let us know how table

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Speaker 1: Talk is touching your life. We love hearing from you.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you can also listen to the Jony table

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Speaker 1: Talk podcast, available now on all the major platforms. But

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Speaker 1: if people want to get a gift to you, what

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Speaker 1: is the best way to do that.

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Speaker 10: Simple The Orphanshands dot org. The the Orphans Hands dot Org.

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Speaker 1: And I know they've got that up on the screen,

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Speaker 1: so leave that up there for just a minute. But

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Speaker 1: if you would like to be a blessing to Philip

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Speaker 1: and help him continue to build these homes to rescue

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Speaker 1: these girls. And you told a story earlier about a

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Speaker 1: girl that was fourteen that couldn't come into your home

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Speaker 1: because you had the sixteen and USA, and so now

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Speaker 1: you're building a home where you can take.

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Speaker 10: A younger fifty little kids between the age of four

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Speaker 10: and sixteen, sixteen, and then they can come to Vatral

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Speaker 10: Village to our.

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Speaker 1: Okay from four to sixteen and on. So hey, I

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Speaker 1: just felt to share that with you. Be obedient. There's

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Speaker 1: some of you. God has really blessed you, and I

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Speaker 1: pray that you will be a blessing to Philip and

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Speaker 1: what he's doing. I want to thank you for watching.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Lady said you love this story. House Hold

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Speaker 1: Salve Rachel thom and Peter, you're kind of pop father, right,

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Speaker 1: I kind of guy. I saw her smiling the whole

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Speaker 1: time with Hey, we love you. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Those of you that prayed that prayer, call us and

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Speaker 1: let us encourage you today. We love you, bye bye

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Speaker 1: for today.