1 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Rot rot rot rot rot rot rot rot rot rot 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: rot rot rot rot rot Andanian, now give the company 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: that brought us the ever pool looting beyond the legal limit? 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Diesel come up with? What? Now this is their penance? 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Is this like Catholic school? You got caught, so you 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: have to do seven hell Mary's. And we're a commercial 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: on radio and TV to promote electric cars for a 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: clean environment. Is that what they're up to here the 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. 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And quite frankly, 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: I get tired of listening around talk all the time. 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: So you know, listen, and I'm gonna make it easy 61 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: on you today because at some point during the lull, um, 62 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: I put a piece of paper in front of you 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: and um, if I see that it looks like your 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Christmas list well, no, actually it's it's something more along 65 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: the lines of, Um, I thought we would do a 66 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: little Carson McMahon uh, the Great karnak Uh improvisation. You're 67 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna ask the question there and um, you're gonna actually 68 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: you can ask that's the answers. I'm not sure if 69 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: those are the answers are the questions? Well, hang on, 70 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: I need to practice here. Yeah right, you got that right, 71 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: And um, you can any one of those topics or 72 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: up for conversation this week. As I've decided what I'm 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: gonna do each and every week is there's so much 74 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: that goes on at the shop. I take notes, and 75 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: I decided I'm gonna summarize everything before the show weekly 76 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: and you know, you can just like go through the 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: list and whatever looks interesting you can just ask me 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it. And maybe that's maybe that's 79 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: the way to empty my head as I try to 80 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: get ready for the next week to fill it back 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: up again. So but um, let's let's do something like 82 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: what we're supposed to do, and let's get over to Kenan, 83 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: Oregon who's here with an oh five Christler Town and 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Country and some missues with brake light bulbs can Welcome 85 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: to the car doctor, sir, how can I help? Well? 86 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, I'd like to, uh see if you 87 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: can inform me as to what's going wrong with the 88 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: rear kail light for the brake turn signal and driving light. 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: It um, if you know, for no reason, it'll just 90 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: quit working. Get the fast plank when you turn, try 91 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: and make a left turn. And I've checked everything and 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: it always comes down to the bulb. But when I 93 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: pulled the ball out, both filaments are still connected. They're 94 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: not broken, they're not burned nothing. If it won't work 95 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: if you put the bab into another socket doesn't light up. No, 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: So the ball is the ball is bad. If you 97 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: own across the filaments, if you come across the pin 98 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: contacts is the filament bad. Doesn't make doesn't show resistance, 99 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: it's it shows resistance and I can hook it up 100 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: to a twelve power supply and it will work. Okay. 101 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: So the bulb is good, yes, all right, So the 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: boat it will not work. It will not work. So 103 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: so what are we missing at the socket power ground? Uh? 104 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: It's it's got power. Um. I'm sure you're aware of 105 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: Chrysler's wim sockets that just sort of they they screw 106 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: in so to speak. Um, yeah, so to speak, and 107 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: they're not very reliable after a certain period of time. 108 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: So I switched out about another pair of Tai lights 109 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: with what they call upgraded sockets like a normal socket, 110 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: and everything was fine for a couple of weeks, and 111 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: then I started doing it again. Well did you when 112 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: you installed the upgraded or the revised you know, harness 113 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: all of the upgrade whatever it was, Um, did you 114 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: do any changes? Did you go back and look at 115 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: the grounds themselves? See, I'm thinking you've got a ground issue. 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: I really do. I mean you could listen. It's it's 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: power ground or the component? Um is it? Is it 118 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: both rear tail lights or just one side? Just the left? Okay? 119 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: So if you take that ball back of the left 120 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: and put it in the right, does it work after 121 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: it's uh failed? No, it will not work even in 122 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: the right son the ball is bad, well, it depends. 123 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: It's bad to the point where it won't work in 124 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: the car. But hook it up to a twelve little 125 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: power supply, well and everything works fine. When the bulb 126 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: fails on the left side. Okay, the right side ball 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: is still working correct. And you can take the ball 128 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: back of the left side, put it into the right 129 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: side and it doesn't work correct. What doesn't make any sense. 130 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: That's illogical. That that's well, that's what I thought. Now. 131 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: The only thing, uh, that you can tell and my 132 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: wife saw this was one of the conducting posts that 133 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: you know holds the filaments has turned almost a dark 134 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: royal blue black instead of being the nice nickel. And 135 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: and that sounds like high current draw like we're burning 136 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: ourselves out right, And and once over the last four months, 137 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: it actually blew the fuse fifteen AP fuse for the 138 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: left side only, for the left side only. It sounds 139 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: like it sounds like you've got two separate things going 140 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: on here, ken, it's it's it sounds like we've got 141 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: a ground issue and as possible as a possible reason 142 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: why it won't work. And then it sounds like there's 143 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: a short somewhere before the bulb causing the fuse to fail. Now, yeah, 144 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: the fuse only failed once? Well once is enough? Maybe well, 145 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: and was was the fuse fail with the old style 146 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: socket or the new style socket? The old one? Okay, 147 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: so maybe it was the old style socket and you've 148 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: eliminated it out of the out of the vehicles. You've 149 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: eliminated that problem. What if we did this? What if 150 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: we took and here I am again with this one 151 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: side marker bulb. What if we took a side marker 152 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: bulb socket wired it into the feed for I don't know, 153 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: pick a circuit the parking lights. This bulb that fails 154 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: as a parking light bulb, correct, yes to parking break. 155 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: What if we just what if we just wire a 156 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: one ball been ahead of the socket at the harness, 157 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, on the on the on the harness side 158 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: of the of the harness, so to speak, away from 159 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: the socket, just using the power and ground from that 160 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: same harness. If when you're if when your bulb is out, 161 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: that bulb is lit, then you know the problem is 162 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: that way in the circuit. If that bulb is out, 163 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: while your bulb is out, you know it's missing power 164 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: a ground. It would be too weird to have another 165 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: socket issue. Yeah, correct, all right, at least it would 166 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: at least it would give you a direction to go 167 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: and you could very easily extend that wire loop inside 168 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: the vehicle and and you know, now you could keep 169 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: an eye on it. Now you've got something to watch 170 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: from time to time in the rear view mirror. And 171 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: don't make it a white bulb. Make it an amber 172 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: bulb so it's not so bright. Correct, and just see 173 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: what that does for you. But I'm I'm thinking you've 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: got a ground issue. Off the top of my head, 175 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'd love to look at a 176 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: wiring diagram and just see. Does the ground for the 177 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: left side is at the same ground in the vehicle 178 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: as it is for the right side for the rear um? 179 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: What's it? Is there anything common? I don't think so. 180 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a left side only issue. 181 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: Does the fuse forret does the fuse for the left 182 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: side feed only the left side? Correct? Just the left? 183 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: That that amazed me. This is the first vehicle I've 184 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: worked on that had a separate left and right right. Well, 185 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: I've I've seen that, but I just wasn't sure if 186 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: they were you know, if this was like that in particular. 187 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: And that's getting to be more and more common. You know. 188 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I was working on a 189 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: Honda yesterday that we might talk about a little bit 190 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: this hour. If Tom actually asks me the question that 191 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: had a problem with the cooling fan where there were 192 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: three fuses involved in operating the cooling fan. And yeah, 193 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: they they've gotten and that was an O six Honda CRV. 194 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: They've gotten way more complicated. Um as time has gone by, 195 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: so you know, I take nothing for granted anymore. So 196 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: let's try let's let's try wire in a side marker ball. 197 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: But let's let's see what that does, just for giggles, 198 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: and if I guess, we have to have the conversation. 199 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: But I'm sure you sound like a pretty sharp guy. 200 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're using a good quality ball and they're 201 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: not something gypsy off the off the off of Yeah, yeah, okay, 202 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: good stuff, um, good stuff. You know we gotta have 203 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: I just gotta throw that into the mix so that 204 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: we touched on it for everybody else's benefit. But I 205 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: started I started working on vehicles when I was thirteen. 206 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're an old guy like me, um us, 207 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: old guy's gotta stick together. Well, I won't say your 208 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: last name on air, but I loved your last name. 209 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting, um appropriate. Appropriately, we're working 210 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: on an electrical problem, so I'll let the listeners figure 211 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: out what your last name was, But uh, I thought 212 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: that was interesting. So um I caught that right away. UM, 213 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: let's do that. Let's let's wire in a side mark 214 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: or see what that does. And just for conversation, do 215 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: you have a clamp on M meter? Uh no, I don't. 216 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: UM you have OM if you have a V. If 217 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: you have a d V O M, and you can 218 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: put it in series and just measure current current draw 219 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: on the left rear versus the right rear, just to 220 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: see if there's something, just to see if there's anything excessive. 221 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it may not, it may not show 222 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: us anything wrong, but at least we'll know what's right, right, 223 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's just it's just understanding one 224 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: more one more thing about the possibility of what could 225 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: be wrong here. So all right, so let's do that. 226 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk again next week. How's about that? Okay? Right, 227 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: thank you, very welcome. Can you have a good rest 228 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: of the weekend. You take good care of you, sir? 229 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: Eight five five zero nine zero zero. The car Doctor's 230 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: cruising back right after this when you get keep Ron's 231 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: number handy eight five five five six zero nine nine 232 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: zero zero for when you really need advice on your car. 233 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: Here's Rob. Let's get on over and talk to Tim 234 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: in Florida. Tim, Welcome to the car doctor. How can 235 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: I help? Sir? Hey, how's it going wrong? Sir? What's 236 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: going on? UM? I have a question for you. I 237 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: have a nine one fifty that UM, I've got a 238 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: really bad vibration in my gas pedal. Come like when 239 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: I come from a stop, UM, and they go in 240 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: or I apply the gas and then it goes away 241 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: once I passed like six sixty five, UM. And it's intermittent. 242 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: It turns off at like thirty five, it comes back 243 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: at like fifty. And but it's like a really really 244 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: hard vibration. When when you say vibration, Tim, um, like 245 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: running off like running over a rough road kind of 246 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: a feeling. Yeah, that's exactly what it feels like, Like 247 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: the bumps on the side of the road, if you're 248 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: running over those right and you're not. You don't feel 249 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: it through the dashboard, you don't feel it through the floorboard. 250 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: Just specifically the gas pedal. It's just strictly the gas pedal. 251 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: And then when I come off the gas, I can 252 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: rest my foot without pressing the gas and I won't 253 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: feel it, but then as soon as I put my 254 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: foot to press the gas pedal down again, I feel it. 255 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: I brought it to a couple of mechanic shops. Nobody 256 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: can see the figure it out. A couple of guys 257 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: have told me what they thought it was. But then 258 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: I've gone and fixed it myself, and I can't. I 259 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do anymore. I mean, how 260 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: long has this been going on? Since I bought the 261 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: truck about six months ago? The guy said it, And 262 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: when I bought the truck, and he thought that it 263 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: was a tire bound too, because he had put new 264 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: tires on it. Um when he noticed that started to happening. 265 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: But I got I got the tire balance that I 266 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 1: thought it was, and that didn't work. I'll tell you that. 267 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the stupid thing I think it might be, 268 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: but I might be wrong. I would I would want 269 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: to know what the U joints are like in the 270 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: drive shaft. That's what I checked. Also, we're just reading 271 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: for hims. But when I went under there to wiggle 272 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: the drive shaft the drive line, it had no play 273 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: in it at all. Take it down, Pull the shaft down, 274 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: pull the shaft, pull the shaft down and feel the joint. 275 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: You know it's in the front one or the back 276 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: on um, I think the rear one. I think both 277 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: joints on the rear one would want to be what 278 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: I wiggle and jiggle because it's it's got to have 279 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: good clean movement in all directions. And and I you know, 280 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: I've seen this. It sounds crazy, but as a matter 281 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: of fact, as a matter of fact, to resurrect the 282 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: imagery of it. Carpenter Bob's eight four E three fifty van, 283 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: which only went to the Junkyard a year and a 284 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: half ago, with five hundred thousand miles on it. All right, 285 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: I remember back when it had when I was a 286 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: child at two hundred thousand miles, and we had a 287 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: similar problem where we had a vibration in the gas 288 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: pedal and we went round and round and round and 289 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: pulled the drive shaft out. And sure enough when I 290 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: and I kind of let Bob work on it for 291 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: about a week because you know, he was he wanted 292 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: to play mechanic. And then finally I said, well, because hey, listen, 293 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: when I'm working on wood, he never tells me what 294 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: to do right away. Kind of it's a it's a 295 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: it's an equal torture. That's the love affairs. And I 296 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: had him pulled the drive shaft out in the front joint, 297 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: just had a little bit of a click in it, 298 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: and sure enough it just it was catching it just right, 299 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: creating a vibration through the drive train. But you know, 300 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: it could be a front rain and rear joint. I've 301 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: seen it. I've seen it both combinations. Obviously we're gonna 302 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, as the ex us hanging right 303 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: or the mounts correct. Uh, you know, anything that can 304 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: cause or transmit a vibration from the engine to the 305 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: gas pedal. But you know that should be a cable 306 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: linkage set up. So I'm thinking it's an oscillation through 307 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: the floor pan. Is it's strictly the gas pedal or 308 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: is it maybe also in the area surrounding the gas pedal. 309 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: The only place I've ever felt it was the gas pedal, 310 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: I guess, like I said, as soon as I come 311 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: off the accelerator, Yeah, because it's it's it's kind of hard. 312 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: You have to take your left foot and shove it 313 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: under the gas pedal while you're holding down with the 314 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: right to see it. You know, it's it's and it 315 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: gets a little awkward. You don't want to do that 316 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: on any on any crowded streets. But yeah, I would 317 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: be thinking something drive line. And then when when you're 318 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: looking at the shaft, make sure, you know, look at it. 319 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: How rusty is it? You know, we're in the northeast, 320 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: you're in Florida. You know we're in the north, you're 321 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: in the south. We have this thing up here called 322 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: snow and salt and corrosion, and then they throw all 323 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: these chemicals. I don't I don't know what that is 324 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: to say. I know it's you know, it's God bless you, 325 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: and you know we um you know, we have these 326 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: things where weights fall off of drive shafts over time, 327 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't stop to think about it. 328 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Then you get under the truck and you go, why 329 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: is there a fresh rust spot there? And the rest 330 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: of the shaft is a darker rust color because there 331 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: used to be something welded to that and it fell off. 332 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Ah ha. So you know, getting the drive shaft checked 333 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: for straight sometimes isn't the bed At worst idea either 334 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: get a check for straight and balance. You know, if 335 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: it's um it's it's actually gotten to the point and 336 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand me for this. A 337 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand me for a lot of things. 338 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: But I don't do you joints in house anymore, not 339 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: nearly as much as I used to. And it's not 340 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: that we can't do them. I don't think we can 341 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: do them right because I think if when you're doing 342 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: you universal joints, if you're not having the shaft check 343 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: for straight and balance, I think you're only doing half 344 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: the job. I think it's like doing an oil change 345 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: with just changing a filter. Um, you know, unless you 346 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: know you had you joints put in a month ago 347 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: and one of the joints went at and that you know, 348 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: it's a warranty thing and you have to put a 349 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: joint in it. That's one thing. But you know, yeah, 350 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: let's let's think about the joint. I mean, let's look 351 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: at all the mounts, engine and trans but let's think 352 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: real hard. Let's pull the drive shaft down, wiggle at 353 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: jiggle it and then maybe send it out to get 354 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: it straight and balanced, and then you can at least 355 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: write that off the list. Then call me back next 356 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: week or whenever and we'll kind of talk a little 357 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: bit more. I appreciate it, Tim, You take good care 358 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: and enjoy the sunshine of Florida. I'm run any in 359 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Good mechanics aren't expensive to priceless. Let's 360 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: see it. When the family car needs some fixing, there's 361 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: only two things that really matter, getting the right part 362 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: and getting some good advice. It's a pretty safe bet that, 363 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: with over a million parts in stock, pet Boys has 364 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: the right part right now. The pet Boys Pros are 365 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: extensively trained to find the right part for just about 366 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: any car truck. Better yet, these pros can also handle 367 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: the entire installation or service needed. It's always good to 368 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: have options and no, the pet Boys Pros had it 369 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: covered either way. Welcome back. N't any of the car 370 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: object That was a surprise ending I realized. I signed 371 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: off like we were. I'm tired this week, Tom, Yeah, 372 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: you're something this week. You know it's well, look at 373 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: the list. Look at the list in front of you, right, 374 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean you know every one of those is a 375 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: good story behind every one of those. And you know 376 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: what I'm I'm I'm actually looking at the one that 377 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: sounds like like a old Commodore song. You know, three 378 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: times a lady, three times a Honda, Tell me about 379 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: that story. The three times a Honda story is a 380 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: two thousand six Honda c RV came into the shop 381 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: this week and it had three specific problems, but there 382 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: was a background to the car. The car has been 383 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: off the road for a year and a half. It 384 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: was at a trans shop. They had taken the vehicle 385 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: into a shop to have a transmission put in, and 386 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: it was a used transmission out of a salvage vehicle. 387 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: So it went back and forth. They kind of dickered 388 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: over price a little bit, and they ended up settling on, okay, 389 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: we'll do it for this much money, and they left 390 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: it there. Well, a year and a half goes by. 391 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: The car finally gets the transmission put in, but they 392 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: drive it out and now it's got a check engine 393 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: light on and the engine overheats. It's been in there 394 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: so long they can't remember was the check engine light 395 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: on before? Or and did it over heat before? Or 396 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: is any of this new or related to the you 397 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: know the transmission, folter, is it because they put the 398 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: transmission in the car, and let's face it, any shop 399 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: that takes a year and a half to do a transmission. Well, 400 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, they're not exactly what I would call, you know, 401 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: aces in terms of quality control and and and overall 402 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: you know ability. Um, there's there's some issues here. So 403 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, was it a bolt today? Turned the wrench, 404 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: Have a cup of coffee, Turned the wrench, Have another 405 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: cup of coffee? You know, how long could it possibly take? 406 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: A year and a half? So it ended up on 407 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: my doorstep. It had it had two specific trouble codes. 408 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: That had a P eleven fifty seven, which is an 409 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: air fuel ratio sensor heat or circuit high fault. And 410 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: it had a P E eleven oh seven or ten 411 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: fifty seven it was intake manifold runner control circuit. I 412 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: might have my codes backwards, but it was one was 413 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: for an intake manifold runner control fault and the other 414 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: ones for an air fuel ratio sensor current DROW problem. 415 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: And you're thinking to yourself, gee, is there a connection here? 416 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: And then last the cooling fan didn't work. The engine 417 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: cooling fan never came on in the car overheated. So 418 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: now you're really thinking, okay, is there a connection. Let's 419 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: see I've got I've got faults with two electrical items, 420 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: three electrical items. Is there a common ground? Is there 421 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: something that ties all three of these together? And it 422 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: becomes three times in the Honda. You've got to go 423 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: through each circuit on an individual basis. I took the 424 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: air fuel ratio sensor fault first. I could see that 425 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: the censor appeared to be dead looking at it on 426 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: a scantol, I took the launch scan tool, put it 427 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: up on a big screen which I can cast it. 428 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: You know, you can chrome cast the launch scan tools, 429 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: which which makes them so great, and cast it up 430 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: onto the big screen and I can watch it from 431 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: anywhere in the shop. I've got a big thirty six 432 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: or forty TV floating around that does just that. And 433 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: I could see that the sensor itself really wasn't doing anything. 434 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: So I am unscrewed it out of the pipe, and 435 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: sure enough there was physical damage to the sensor. Okay, 436 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: censor's bad. Boomed on. Let's put a sensor and it 437 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: move on. You know, it didn't matter if I fixed 438 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: every problem with the air fuel sensor. I knew that 439 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: the sensor itself was bad and had a crack in 440 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: the tip and it wasn't working. Let's go on to 441 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: the next thing. Intake manifold runner control. When I first 442 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: started the car, I heard a vacuum leak that and I, 443 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, you have to be careful with the cars today. 444 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: The intake manifolds just they sound like they've got vacuum leaks. 445 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: There's always a high rutch rush of air and it 446 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: it sounds like a high pitched whistle. But it isn't 447 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: necessarily always a leak. It's it's the design and the 448 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: curves and and the turbulence it's going on, and it's 449 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: just it's the sound of the engine. Well, I wasn't 450 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: wrong because this one did have a vacuum leak, but 451 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: only at idle. It wasn't affecting fuel trim on the road, 452 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: but only at idle because the manifold had a vacuum 453 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: line off that went to the intake manifold Runner control 454 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: had a fish under the manifold plugged it in. Didn't 455 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: see a connection to any of this being related to 456 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: the trans. I almost think it's how the car got 457 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: dropped off two and five thousand miles um. You know 458 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: who was working on a prior to the trans failure. 459 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: You don't know. You just don't know the history of 460 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: it too. Down the third one was kind of weird, 461 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: as if this wasn't weird enough already, right, so you know, 462 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: now I'm kind of getting away from the it's all 463 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: related to one thing, syndrome to everything is an individual problem, 464 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: which is what it turned out to be. So the 465 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: cooling fan wouldn't come on now. The way Honda does 466 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: it is they put a switch in the bottom of 467 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: the radiator. When the temperature and the radiator hits a 468 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety degrees, it closes the ground leg to 469 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: G two O one, which is the ground on the 470 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: right side frame rail. It's a multiple gang ground. There's 471 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: seven or eight different grounds for different circuits, which kind 472 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: of when I looked at it, I said, oh gee, 473 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: I wonder if this is tied back to the air 474 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: fuel sensor heater circuit and didn't take menifold runner control problem. 475 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: But it turns out no, and that ground there once 476 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: it's completed with the closure of the switch, energizes the 477 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: fan relay and turns on the fan. But it never happened. 478 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean I saw that, I saw the scam tool 479 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: temperature get up to two hundred and seven two and 480 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: eight degrees, and the fans never came on. So I said, well, 481 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: let's just you know, do I have a bad fan? Okay? 482 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: I hooked up and set up a ground and a 483 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: hot feed right to the fan itself bypassed everything. Fan 484 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: doesn't run. I grabbed the fan blade and I hear 485 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: clunk clun clunk, cluk clunk. There's a wobble the fans 486 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: wobbling on its shaft. I said, gee, I wonder you 487 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: know a bad spot on the armature. The car has 488 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: been sitting for a year and a half, right rush spots, 489 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been sitting for a year and a half. 490 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: I moved the fan just maybe an eighth of an 491 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: inch rotation, just to change the contact point of the 492 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: brush against the commuentator. I let the car warm up again. Well, 493 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: actually what I did was I took my power, set 494 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: up power and ground, and I got the fan motor 495 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: to run, noisy as all get out. Coup copp cup 496 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: cup clup. But it started to spin. It sounded like 497 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: a World War One biplane. I was looking for snoopy 498 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: and the red baron and sure enough I hooked it 499 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: back up I let the car start to run and 500 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: get warm, got the two seven degrees no fan, all right, 501 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: I need a fan motor. This is really weird. And 502 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: then I thought about it, and as I was cleaning 503 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: up last night, carpenter Bob came in and this is 504 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: the last job of the day of this car was 505 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: on this car roll afternoon yesterday. Carpenter Bob came in 506 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: and I'm cleaning up and I'm wiping up my tools, 507 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: and he says, what are you doing, because he's got 508 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: this Honda in front of him running. And I've got 509 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: this my my test headlight. I couldn't live without my 510 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: test headlight, right. I got my test headlight plugged into 511 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: the fan connector where it gets energized by the relay. 512 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: And I said, well, I said, this is kind of 513 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: like back to the future. I said, when this thing 514 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: hits two hundred and seven degrees or or higher than 515 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: one according to the wiring diagram, the headlights should light up. 516 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: And then Bob said, well, where does it take the 517 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: temperature reading? Because I was explaining to him how I 518 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: was seeing two oh seven to oh eight and still 519 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: no fan run. And I thought about it, and I said, 520 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, the switches in the bottom of the radiator. 521 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: The temperature sensor that I'm reading is located in the 522 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: cylinder head at the top of the engine. It's two 523 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: different areas. It's not taking it both from the radiator temp. 524 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if and then I realized Hondas are two 525 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: D and twelve. When I do an idol learned on 526 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: a Honda, I see temperatures up to two d and 527 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: twelve degrees before the fan comes on. I felt like 528 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: Maxwell smart missed it by that much. Right, needed five 529 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: more degrees. So I waited till the car turned to 530 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: five more degrees. I waited to look out up the 531 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve fans switch read one. So when 532 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: the engines at two twelve the radiators at one, that's 533 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: a temperate differential, temperature differential. The headlight came on. Bob goes, 534 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: why is the headline on? Well, that's because the fans bed, 535 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: and he just looked at me, and I explained the 536 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: whole thing to him. So sometimes you gotta go the 537 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: really the long way around the barn. But the point 538 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: becomes test everything. I tested everything in that fan circuit. 539 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: I knew how everything worked when I was done. I 540 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: tested every component. Monday, it's getting a fan and the 541 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: car will be done. Three problems, none of them related. 542 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: The only common denominator that I can figure is some 543 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: of it had may have something to do with the 544 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: fact that the car sat for a year and a half. 545 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: But you know, there's no way I can control that. 546 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Fix the problems in front of you. If you've if 547 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: you've ever wondered, is it this part or that part? 548 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: Take the part out of the car, wire it up 549 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: on the bench, treat it like a standalone device. How 550 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: would you test it if you didn't have the car 551 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: in front of me. That's how I approach everything, and 552 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: that's how you've got to approach it. When we were 553 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: talking to Ken before about the tell light bulbs in 554 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: his Chrysler, take those bulbs out, put him in something else, 555 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: wire them up, test it. That's how you've got to 556 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: approach it. But that's the that's the Honda three times 557 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: story zero zero, the car doctors coming back right after 558 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: this Welcome back car Doctor. And the whole point of 559 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: that Honda story was I was I was telling Tom 560 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: during the break, is that you know the load of 561 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: the circuit was a twenty am FU circuit that ran 562 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: the electric fan on the Honda. Twenty am fuse generally 563 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: as a six to seven AM load is usually three 564 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: times the circuit load. So six seven am bload that's 565 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: about a headlight bulb and old school round style, you know, 566 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: headlight bulb. And that's why I use that headlight bulb 567 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: for everything. That's my electrical test mule. And as soon 568 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: as the light came on, boom, you know what, Let's 569 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: put a fan in it. And I only did that. 570 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: I knew the fan was bad anyway, but I did 571 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: that because I had now I was able to I 572 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: could verify the switch work, the relay work, the wiring 573 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: in between work. Car sat for a year and a half. 574 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: Holse you you gotta test everything, how do you you know? 575 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: Trove Bob crazy though, because the headlight came on and says, 576 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: what the heck does that mean? That means the car 577 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: is overheating. Let's go over to Bob no relation in 578 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota twelve Chevy and pala Hey, Bob, welcome to the 579 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help Hi? Yes, I have 580 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: a Chevy and Paula And when I step on the brakes, 581 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: it shakes um, high speed, highway speed and put on 582 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: it still shakes. I think it might be the hippers. 583 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: Well let's talk about yeah, well, let's hang on a 584 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: second now. Um uh, let's talk about this. It shakes 585 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: it what speeds, Bob, Well, it will shake a little 586 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: bit around fifty so highway speed. Yeah, it's highway speed 587 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: only only when you're stepping on the brake. Sometimes it 588 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: will do a little without stepping on the brake, ever 589 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: so slightly. That doesn't do it constantly. All right, Well, 590 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: vibration without stepping on the brake is not going to 591 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: be brake related. I've never seen that. And the laws 592 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: of physics would you'd have to explain that to me, 593 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: because they kind of defies them. Um. You know, when 594 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: we get a pulse without vehicle brake application like that 595 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: you're you're describing to me, we're usually looking at a 596 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: tire wheel balance issue, something driveline related, something along those lines. 597 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: So you know, in order to diagnose and repair this properly, 598 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: you've got to fix the non brake application vibration first, 599 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: because otherwise, how would you know, you know, if if 600 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: the car shaking at fifty five without stepping on the brake, 601 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: and you step on the brake and you think, well, 602 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: it's related to the break. No, it's not. It was 603 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: vibrating before you started, you know, So you've got to 604 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: look at that. Um. There are a couple of bulletins, 605 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: if I recall correctly on older impalas, that talked about 606 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: harmonics and problems with steering racks and and vibrational shake 607 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: things like that. But I don't believe it applies to 608 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: the twelves. This was back in the sixes and the sevens, 609 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: the older ones, And I think what you're gonna find 610 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: first step is I would either look at tire condition, 611 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: tire quality, and just make sure that all four tires 612 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: have a real good balance on them. For that matter, 613 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: if if you don't have access to a wheel balancer, 614 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: mark the tires on the inside, you know, left front, 615 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: right front, and so on moving around the car. Does 616 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: moving the tires change how the vibration occurs? And if 617 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: it does, then at least you know you're you're you're 618 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: you're moving the problem, but you know what the problem is. 619 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: In terms of what to attack. Generally, generally, calipers will 620 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: be the issue that causes the break rotor to warp, 621 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: which would cause the pulse, but only when you step 622 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: on the brake, all right, you know I get a 623 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: good shaking when they step on it. Well, but if 624 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about trying the calipers too, and I would 625 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: like to know when you bleed the calipers, Can I 626 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: just use the two men bleeding uh system? Or do 627 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: I need a computer to bleed them? Well? If you don't, 628 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: depending upon how much fluid you use. Here, let's let's 629 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: back up. How many miles around the car? About a 630 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: hundred and forty okay, so at a hundred forty thousand 631 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: miles have you ever changed break fluid before? No? Huh? 632 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: All right, So so we're gonna go through the process 633 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: of replacing calipers an only bleed part of the system. 634 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense, right, I mean, doesn't it? Don't 635 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: you really wanna? You know, you I agree with putting 636 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: calipers on if you're this age um and if they're 637 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: a poor conditions, so you know, it becomes pads, rotors, calipers, 638 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: But then you need to do a bleed in the flush. 639 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: And you know, in order to bleed the A B 640 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: S controller on that car, you will need a scan tool. 641 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: It's got to activate the pistons. There is a specific 642 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: there is a specific procedure. So you know, maybe it's 643 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: you can hang calipers, bleed it just to get a 644 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: pedal as best you can and get it down to 645 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: your local mechanic and asked Kim, hey, can you flush 646 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: the system for me from here? Uh? You know, I mean, 647 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: see if he'll do that, See if he'll want to 648 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: do part of the work. If not, you know, because 649 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: there's a liability factor here, He's gonna be counting on 650 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: your work to be done. Right. I'm not saying it 651 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: won't be, but I you know, I would be hesitant 652 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: as a as a technician to step into the middle 653 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: of it. But you know, at that point, now, yeah, 654 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: you really should bleed and flush the break fluid. You know, 655 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: the industry says, and in common sense dictates every two 656 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: to three years at at at a minimum. And you know, 657 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: if it's been a hundred forty thousand miles in twelve eighteen, 658 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: where are we six seven years? Um? Yeah, a lot 659 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: of a lot of Minnesota winters and a lot of 660 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: compensation uh going on there. So I would by all means, 661 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, get the fluid flushed and clean and don't 662 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: forget about the rear brakes either. Uh, you know it's 663 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: it's let's look at the brake system as a whole only, 664 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: because if the front rotors did have a warp issue 665 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: or puls or is shake, you know, if the front 666 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: calipers are overworked because the rears aren't doing anything, then 667 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: six six months from now you'll be calling me again going, hey, 668 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: I got my vibration back, so well, you know that's uh, 669 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: that's really the best way to do it, Bob, I 670 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: gotta run them up against the clock. If you get 671 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: any other questions, give us a shout next week and 672 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: listen to how things turn out. I'm on a eating 673 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. Will be back right after this. Welcome back, 674 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: w I'm Eating the Car Doctor. A couple of quick 675 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: things here at the end of the hour. Car careac 676 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: tips for Halloween driving. This one's out of the Car 677 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: Care Council. The folks over at the Car Care Council 678 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: remind us, with Halloween's fast approaching motorists, drive slowly through neighborhoods. 679 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: Be sure you know extra careful. Halloween is this week. 680 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: You want to be careful with those little ghouls and 681 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: goblins walking around the streets and make sure you're a 682 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: vehicle's lights and wipers are working properly. You know, it 683 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: might be bad weather in parts of the country this 684 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: coming week, so well, you know, just maybe clean the glass. 685 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: You know, dirty windshields are not a great thing in 686 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: Halloween because they may look spooky, but you need to 687 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: be able to see kids cross in the street. And 688 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: if the weather turns weren't out, wiper blades are correct 689 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: wiper blades when all, they're going to be a problem 690 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: for visibility, So stop to think about that. And you know, 691 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: just remember if you're looking for more information about taking 692 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: care of your vehicle, it's out on the web at 693 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: carcare dot org. So I get out there and do that. 694 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: This Mitchell track, I want to do a Mitchell sure 695 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: track fix. It was kind of interesting, a two thousand 696 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: two Suzuki esteem. You know, he think Suzuki, You think, 697 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: oh gosh, I don't want to work on that. I 698 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: can't get parts. Sometimes it's simple, and this one comes 699 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: to us from the folks over at Mitchell. The customer's 700 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: concern was confirmed. The customer concern right, what I tell you, 701 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: make sure the problem really exists, and they noted the 702 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: instrument cluster temperature gauge read in the over temperature range. 703 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: They checked the coolant level and condition. There were no concerns. 704 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: They inspected the cooling system components that had circulation, the 705 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: radiator was working and all. In the end when they 706 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: felt the upper radiator hose, the upper radiator hose was 707 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: warm to the touch, not scalding hot. It turns out 708 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: the engine cooling temperature switch was actually bad and it 709 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: was giving an erroneous reading to the gauge, making the 710 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: car appear to be overheating even when it's not. Things 711 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: like this are out there from Mitchell one. More information 712 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: at mitchell one dot com are on an any in 713 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: the car doctor, reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 714 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: Let's see you