1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:06,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's keep track here, Garrett oneon zero. Okay,

2
00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna review our preseason predictions, which Cliff was the judge,

3
00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:21,440
Speaker 1: so now he gets to be the execution. You. We're

4
00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,639
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about it, and so this basically restores

5
00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:41,800
Speaker 1: order in the world. Love. Welcome into the Lounge, the

6
00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,760
Speaker 1: off season edition, Garrett. We don't you know, it's not

7
00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,720
Speaker 1: good to get into the off season Lounge. I much

8
00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,120
Speaker 1: prefer the playoff edition of the Lounge. But here we are.

9
00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,199
Speaker 1: We're season yes, off season mode, and it's amazing how

10
00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,800
Speaker 1: quickly the page turns. We're already talking about salary cap

11
00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,560
Speaker 1: cuts and trade talk and free agency moves. And you

12
00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,720
Speaker 1: don't wait any time I said that, the whole off

13
00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,960
Speaker 1: season plan already written. I've got the whole thing done.

14
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,240
Speaker 1: We spent the entire week Basically. We we wanted to

15
00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,039
Speaker 1: do a podcast earlier in the week, but really we

16
00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,360
Speaker 1: needed to wait for two things. One, we needed to

17
00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,160
Speaker 1: let our emotions cool off before going on the live

18
00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,240
Speaker 1: microphone level heads have prevailed. Yeah, we couldn't open up

19
00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,319
Speaker 1: the mics before we had cooled off a little bit. Secondly,

20
00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,160
Speaker 1: we needed to build out the entire off season plan.

21
00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,920
Speaker 1: So we've done that, so we're two things checked out.

22
00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,840
Speaker 1: Time for me to deliver that to the Costa. Yeah,

23
00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,800
Speaker 1: I'll set that up. And before we get any further,

24
00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,720
Speaker 1: you might hear some laughter here. That's from Clifton Brown.

25
00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,160
Speaker 1: You may you know you guys have recognized him from

26
00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,080
Speaker 1: being here a few previous podcasts. So Cliff is graciously

27
00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,039
Speaker 1: decided to come into the lounge today to keep the

28
00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,960
Speaker 1: level heads in line. Well, a part of it two

29
00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,000
Speaker 1: is we're going to review our preseason predictions, which Cliff

30
00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,080
Speaker 1: was the judge, so now he gets to be the

31
00:01:54,160 --> 00:02:02,840
Speaker 1: execution the judge journey. Excuse you here, Before we get

32
00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,560
Speaker 1: into that, let's read the email. As always, you can

33
00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,440
Speaker 1: reach us at the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net.

34
00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,640
Speaker 1: This one comes from Brian Slagel, who says, fellas, I

35
00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,680
Speaker 1: love I'm still loving what you guys are doing. I

36
00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,480
Speaker 1: just wanted to give you my two cents on the game,

37
00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,880
Speaker 1: which I flew up for early Sunday morning from Charleston,

38
00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:27,840
Speaker 1: South Carolina, and got back from late Sunday night. Now

39
00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,200
Speaker 1: he's going into the boom for Lamarge Accidents of the

40
00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,560
Speaker 1: Offense and we'll talk about this a little bit because

41
00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,000
Speaker 1: it was a hot topic that game, says. Brian says,

42
00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,040
Speaker 1: I think the booing wasn't directed towards Lamar, but more

43
00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,320
Speaker 1: for the entire situation. Lamar didn't complete a pass for

44
00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,680
Speaker 1: literally literally for thirty eight game minutes, two hours in

45
00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,000
Speaker 1: real time, and they were behind, which I I didn't

46
00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,919
Speaker 1: realize this two hours. That was like the longest two

47
00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,560
Speaker 1: hours of my life. Uh. And they were behind, which

48
00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,639
Speaker 1: I think many people going into the would say is

49
00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,200
Speaker 1: the worst formula for the Ravens. At the time of

50
00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,560
Speaker 1: the booing, the offense was not working at all, so

51
00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,840
Speaker 1: why would it hurt trying to ignite the offense with

52
00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,080
Speaker 1: January Joe. I realized the charges d was owning the

53
00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,840
Speaker 1: Ravens past detection and Joe may have gotten blasted, but

54
00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,160
Speaker 1: I think the fans wanted at least one shot for

55
00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,440
Speaker 1: him and also give him a proper send off from

56
00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,040
Speaker 1: the Baltimore fans. I've seen a lot in the media

57
00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,760
Speaker 1: saying the fans disrespected Lamar, but I don't think it

58
00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,720
Speaker 1: was directed at Lamar one bit. I can promise you

59
00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,399
Speaker 1: the booze for Joe wouldn't have been would have been

60
00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,919
Speaker 1: a lot louder if he went thirty eight game minutes

61
00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,480
Speaker 1: without completing a past, just my two cents, he just

62
00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,000
Speaker 1: on that last point. Could you imagine if Joe was

63
00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,920
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback and Lamar was sitting there on the

64
00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,360
Speaker 1: bench and Joe went thirty eight managed without completing a past,

65
00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,880
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it would have been because you imagine the

66
00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,000
Speaker 1: same exact stuff, chance all the same stuff, so so,

67
00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,560
Speaker 1: and for that reason, I actually completely agree with what

68
00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,320
Speaker 1: Brian saying. And we've talked about this, and I think

69
00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,440
Speaker 1: you guys are on the same page. I really don't

70
00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,960
Speaker 1: think that fans booing were saying like Lamar Jackson sticks,

71
00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, like we don't like Lamar anymore. We're off

72
00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,080
Speaker 1: the Lamar bandwagon, which is how I think some of

73
00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens players interpreted it. They're like, how do you

74
00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,640
Speaker 1: just jump off the band wagon so quick on this guy?

75
00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't that people, even though the same people booing

76
00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,799
Speaker 1: might sit there and be the biggest Lamar Jackson fans

77
00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,080
Speaker 1: next year, or even if the Ravens have won that

78
00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,600
Speaker 1: game and Lamar was back as the starter the following week,

79
00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,760
Speaker 1: they could have been totally on board the Lamar Jackson expressed.

80
00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,880
Speaker 1: I think that they were just frustrated overall with the situation,

81
00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,599
Speaker 1: like you said, and that the Ravens weren't mixing it

82
00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,400
Speaker 1: up and going to jump. Yeah. I don't think that

83
00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,400
Speaker 1: the booing at all was directed at Lamar. I think

84
00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,040
Speaker 1: it was basically directed at the decision not to make

85
00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,560
Speaker 1: a change in the frustration with the offense overall. And

86
00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,440
Speaker 1: I get why players don't like to be booed. I mean,

87
00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,000
Speaker 1: if you're a player here, you don't want to be

88
00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,240
Speaker 1: booed in front of your home fans, and so I

89
00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,279
Speaker 1: understand why there's a feeling of being disrespected there. Especially.

90
00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,839
Speaker 1: I think players felt like Lamar is the guy that

91
00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,640
Speaker 1: got us here, Why are you trying to get him

92
00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,919
Speaker 1: out of here? And I think that's a fair point

93
00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,840
Speaker 1: for a player. However, I also think that if you're

94
00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,080
Speaker 1: a fan, you have the right to boo. I've been

95
00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,400
Speaker 1: a fan, I've been a fan of the game. You

96
00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,080
Speaker 1: go in there and you're not pleased with the product,

97
00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,960
Speaker 1: and I think that you have a right to boo.

98
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,080
Speaker 1: And I think that like that to me, showed that

99
00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,720
Speaker 1: Ravens fans are so passionate about this team, and if

100
00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,960
Speaker 1: you want passion and you want excitement and you want

101
00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,760
Speaker 1: people to really feel invested in the product that you're

102
00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,760
Speaker 1: putting on the field. Booing is part of that process.

103
00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,000
Speaker 1: If it's not working, it's just part of sports. That's

104
00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,200
Speaker 1: what happens. And like, obviously it's it's not good because

105
00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,880
Speaker 1: if people are booing, that means they don't like what

106
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,760
Speaker 1: they're seeing on the field. It's just not good all

107
00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,680
Speaker 1: the way around. But you know, the players and coaches

108
00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,240
Speaker 1: are paid to succeed on the field. That's their job,

109
00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,720
Speaker 1: and if they don't do their job as well as

110
00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,880
Speaker 1: people like, then they're gonna get booed. And that's the

111
00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,160
Speaker 1: fans prerogative. So I worry about doing your job better

112
00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,680
Speaker 1: instead of worried about the fans and what they're doing

113
00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,839
Speaker 1: in the stands. That's my two says. Now. I get

114
00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith. I completely get Jimmy Smith taking his having

115
00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,600
Speaker 1: his voice back, Lamar's back and saying like people jumping

116
00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,080
Speaker 1: off the bandwagon are way too fast. I like that.

117
00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,080
Speaker 1: I like having your players back, but you have to

118
00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,520
Speaker 1: be able to draw a distinction there between like what's

119
00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,320
Speaker 1: actually wrong and what's not. You know, well, I think

120
00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,840
Speaker 1: spending it forward to it gave Lamar a taste of

121
00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,960
Speaker 1: what goes with being a franchise quarterback. He had been

122
00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,440
Speaker 1: on such a role in the seven games before that,

123
00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,560
Speaker 1: winning six of them, all of him at home. Uh,

124
00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,040
Speaker 1: these type of situations is not gonna be the last

125
00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:32,000
Speaker 1: time he's booed at home. It's not gonna probably not No,

126
00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm saying it's not because there'll be a game.

127
00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,440
Speaker 1: Probably say no, I say no, and Joe. Joe's experienced

128
00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,920
Speaker 1: that too. I do think even though it wasn't directed

129
00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:47,120
Speaker 1: personally at Lamar, there are still fans who aren't convinced

130
00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,840
Speaker 1: yet that this is gonna work out with him being

131
00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,640
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback. I think that's part of it. It

132
00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,920
Speaker 1: also shows why it never works to have two guys

133
00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,320
Speaker 1: who could be the guy, because it's always gonna create

134
00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,560
Speaker 1: a divide between people who want flag Go to be

135
00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,600
Speaker 1: the guy in this case and the people who want

136
00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,919
Speaker 1: Lamar to be the guy. As soon as Oneman starts

137
00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,040
Speaker 1: playing badly, they're calling for the other guy. So moving forward,

138
00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,520
Speaker 1: it's interesting that people say, well, Joe should have gotten

139
00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,840
Speaker 1: the nod, which I could totally understand, But I also

140
00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,320
Speaker 1: do understand John's thinking. That if Lamar is going to

141
00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,240
Speaker 1: be the guy, he's gonna have to go through this.

142
00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,280
Speaker 1: And it's hard to make that decision a playoff game

143
00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,600
Speaker 1: where really all you want to do with any causes

144
00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,400
Speaker 1: to move forward, let's go one and O. But it

145
00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,840
Speaker 1: clearly was a message to Lamar from his head coach

146
00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,840
Speaker 1: that moving forward he hasn't waven in his belief that

147
00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,680
Speaker 1: he's the guy. Right. I completely agree. And and just

148
00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,560
Speaker 1: to further dive into this Charger's loss, you know, one

149
00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,800
Speaker 1: thing that's going to be debated for a long time

150
00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,560
Speaker 1: is whether it exposed whether the longevity, the long term

151
00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,160
Speaker 1: success of this kind of offense. And here's one thing

152
00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,360
Speaker 1: that I will say about that is this kind of

153
00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,360
Speaker 1: offense is going to evolve. Right, the Ravens will not

154
00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,440
Speaker 1: be running the same exact offense in nineteen as they

155
00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,120
Speaker 1: did in now. Lamar's you don't want to change what

156
00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,920
Speaker 1: Lamar does. What he does best, and his legs are

157
00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,080
Speaker 1: what make him special. I mean, you know, he's got

158
00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,679
Speaker 1: a great arm. I think you give be a good thrower,

159
00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,720
Speaker 1: but his legs are gonna make them special. Let's not lie.

160
00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,720
Speaker 1: So you're he's always going to be a quarterback that runs,

161
00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,480
Speaker 1: but he you're fooling yourself or you're naive or shortsighted

162
00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,000
Speaker 1: if you think Lamar Jackson is a finished product at

163
00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,120
Speaker 1: this point. I mean, come on, he's playing his rookie year.

164
00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,800
Speaker 1: He will improve as a passer. So so people saying like, oh, well,

165
00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,320
Speaker 1: the Chargers cracked the code. Now, anytime the Ravens face

166
00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,079
Speaker 1: another team that they've seen before, they're gonna be able

167
00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,960
Speaker 1: to do this. I disagree with that notion. Yeah, I

168
00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,920
Speaker 1: think you need to hold off on the one game

169
00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,320
Speaker 1: total conclusion drawn like it was one game and guys

170
00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,520
Speaker 1: have poor games and playoffs or whatever. You can have

171
00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,160
Speaker 1: a one game blip. Now. I think the reason there's

172
00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,719
Speaker 1: more chatter around that is, you know, the Chargers went

173
00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,679
Speaker 1: with this different lineup, they went light, they had all

174
00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,360
Speaker 1: these defensive backs, and that they would another team from

175
00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,000
Speaker 1: doing it was it was the first time that a

176
00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,520
Speaker 1: team had seen the offense twice, so now they've figured

177
00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,640
Speaker 1: this whole thing out. But I think it was more

178
00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,920
Speaker 1: a factor of I think those things that I just

179
00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,200
Speaker 1: mentioned were part of the reason that the offense struggled. Certainly,

180
00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,480
Speaker 1: I think that Lamar just had a bad game. So

181
00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,360
Speaker 1: I think that just adds to it um and I

182
00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,120
Speaker 1: think that you're going to see the Ravens make changes,

183
00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,920
Speaker 1: like I look forward to me top priorities for this offseason. Offensively,

184
00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into this leader, I know, but I'm

185
00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,079
Speaker 1: just saying, is you want to beef up your offensive line.

186
00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,280
Speaker 1: The offensive line got man handled at the line scrimmage,

187
00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,280
Speaker 1: and that's what you want to do. You want to

188
00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,880
Speaker 1: find a way to beef up that old line. If

189
00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,680
Speaker 1: you do that, I think this offense is gonna be fine.

190
00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,680
Speaker 1: Will you do that and teams go light against you

191
00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,720
Speaker 1: with seven dvs next year the in Week one and

192
00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,440
Speaker 1: you smack them in the straight in the out. Yeah,

193
00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a little surprised the Ravens didn't try

194
00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,680
Speaker 1: more of a downhill running attack against the Chargers and

195
00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,080
Speaker 1: there's seven dbs later kind of look. But next year

196
00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,240
Speaker 1: the Ravens will learn from this, I'm sure. And if

197
00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,280
Speaker 1: they can improve their offensive line, even running back situation,

198
00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,120
Speaker 1: they can they can beat up on some teams. And

199
00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760
Speaker 1: if Lamar becomes a better pastor, which I think he

200
00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,200
Speaker 1: will this offseason, just more consistent, more accurate, all those things,

201
00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,960
Speaker 1: better mechanics, he's gonna light it up. I mean, if

202
00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,920
Speaker 1: you add a better passing element to this, it's gonna

203
00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,680
Speaker 1: be tough to stop. Yeah, he's got to have a

204
00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,000
Speaker 1: plan B or plans, see something else he can go

205
00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,000
Speaker 1: to besides his legs on a consistent basis. And I

206
00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,160
Speaker 1: think that Lamar's inexperience of the quarterback showed up in

207
00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,920
Speaker 1: that game more than any other because once you know

208
00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,120
Speaker 1: so that the Ravens favorite options were taken away, they

209
00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,680
Speaker 1: had no effective plan B. And that's what's gonna have

210
00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,600
Speaker 1: to change with Lamar. He's gonna see a lot of

211
00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,640
Speaker 1: different looks. Like all quarterbacks, he's gonna have to have

212
00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,080
Speaker 1: something to go to. What he wants to do best

213
00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,520
Speaker 1: is taken away. So yeah, he's not even a full

214
00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,520
Speaker 1: season game wise into his career. He's twenty two years old.

215
00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,280
Speaker 1: He's gonna work hard, He's gonna get a lot of coaching.

216
00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,720
Speaker 1: I feel he has the right makeup to reach whatever

217
00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,600
Speaker 1: this ceiling is, which that ceiling is high. I mean,

218
00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,600
Speaker 1: that's really the exciting part about Lamar is you know,

219
00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,200
Speaker 1: he he has a long way to go still in

220
00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,960
Speaker 1: some areas of his game. But in terms of all

221
00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,280
Speaker 1: the first round rookie quarterbacks, I mean Baker Mayfield, I

222
00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,520
Speaker 1: think is an excellent quarterback, had an excellent rookie season.

223
00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,760
Speaker 1: But if if Lamar can become like I was saying,

224
00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,400
Speaker 1: become a better passer, his ceiling is higher to me

225
00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,720
Speaker 1: than any of those other guys that were drafted ahead

226
00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,839
Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, even the charges after the game, we're

227
00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,560
Speaker 1: still talking about. I heard Boso read a quote he's

228
00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,679
Speaker 1: ridiculously fast. Uh. Someone else said he's still a great quarterback.

229
00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,959
Speaker 1: The guy is someone you have the game plan for. Finally,

230
00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,520
Speaker 1: moving forward, the Ravens have a playmaker every week that

231
00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,640
Speaker 1: the opposition has the game. And here's the thing. It

232
00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,240
Speaker 1: was Lamar Jackson's first playoffs start the youngest quarterback who

233
00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,480
Speaker 1: ever started playoff game. There's plenty of guys who have

234
00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,760
Speaker 1: lost their first I'm just looking at some numbers here.

235
00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,439
Speaker 1: Eli Manning first playoffs start ten of eighteen a hundred

236
00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,400
Speaker 1: thirteen yards, zero touchdowns, three picks. Joe Flacco's first playoff

237
00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,559
Speaker 1: game n of twenty three hundred thirty five yards, zero touchdowns,

238
00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,960
Speaker 1: zero picks, Ben seventeen one touchdown, two picks. So, like

239
00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,800
Speaker 1: you look at these guys who are potential, you know

240
00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,880
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of good quarterbacks lost their

241
00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,839
Speaker 1: first playoffs style exactly. Those are three Super Bowl winners

242
00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,199
Speaker 1: right there, and they didn't necessarily play well. This is

243
00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,400
Speaker 1: a lot longer than that for reason. I mean, all

244
00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,080
Speaker 1: these guys the most. Peyton Manning got destroyed, I'm pretty

245
00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,760
Speaker 1: sure in his first playoffs third, So he's not alone.

246
00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,679
Speaker 1: I mean, and and Lamar. I think the big thing

247
00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,720
Speaker 1: for him is just gonna be that he's gonna have

248
00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,000
Speaker 1: to approach this offseason aggressively to improve himself and uh,

249
00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, take the next step. But let's not discredit

250
00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,640
Speaker 1: what he did this season. And this gets to our

251
00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,160
Speaker 1: next question of just viewing the season as a whole.

252
00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,080
Speaker 1: For him to win six of his last seven or

253
00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,560
Speaker 1: six of his first seven games, for him to be

254
00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,360
Speaker 1: the most dynamic rushing quarterback he ran from war yards

255
00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,480
Speaker 1: in NFL history that any quarterback has ever done before.

256
00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the best running quarterback maybe ever. We've

257
00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,280
Speaker 1: ever ever seen better used a better running quarterback than

258
00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,920
Speaker 1: Michael Vick. And we're saying that after the started for

259
00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,400
Speaker 1: half a season. I mean, there's so much to be

260
00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,400
Speaker 1: excited about here, uh that to get down about all that,

261
00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,120
Speaker 1: because one game I think is foolish. Yeah, Mark, I

262
00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,520
Speaker 1: think that there's been there's there's reason for excitement with him,

263
00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,320
Speaker 1: and um yeah, I mean I totally agree. And I

264
00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,080
Speaker 1: think that going back to the question of sustainability is

265
00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,360
Speaker 1: just going to work and all that he is such

266
00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,320
Speaker 1: a special player that he can make it work. It

267
00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,040
Speaker 1: really I don't. I don't personally have that many doubts

268
00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,480
Speaker 1: that this offense is not going to be successful with

269
00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,079
Speaker 1: him at quarterback. I just really don't. I think injury

270
00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,960
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest and that everybody hasn't and I've

271
00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,760
Speaker 1: been asked about that a million times. You know, I

272
00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,600
Speaker 1: think he's good at avoiding big shot. It only takes

273
00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,839
Speaker 1: one it can happen, But I think he's pretty good

274
00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,160
Speaker 1: at avoiding it. Yeah, we just talk about Billies other pieces.

275
00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,280
Speaker 1: I think obviously, the more other threats the Ravens can

276
00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,920
Speaker 1: have around him, the less he has to carry the offense,

277
00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,760
Speaker 1: i e. Maybe even carrying the football. I mean, I

278
00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,760
Speaker 1: would like to see Lamar as good as he is

279
00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,040
Speaker 1: as a runner. I would like to see his rushing

280
00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,560
Speaker 1: attempts be kept to a certain number lower than they

281
00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,240
Speaker 1: were this year. I think there'll be certain situations where

282
00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,960
Speaker 1: he'll have to run, to make things happen and to

283
00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,400
Speaker 1: win a game. But I would like to see over

284
00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,120
Speaker 1: the course of his career that he not be a

285
00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,760
Speaker 1: guy every week carrying the ball fifteen times a game.

286
00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of okay with that. I kind of like

287
00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,600
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen every week. I kind of disagree with

288
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,720
Speaker 1: you there. I agree a little bit of a decrease

289
00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,880
Speaker 1: from this year, but I don't I don't want to

290
00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,400
Speaker 1: take what makes Lamar special away. I would agree that

291
00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,520
Speaker 1: it's probably ten of fifteen. It's not Yes, he did

292
00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,720
Speaker 1: get up around twenty. That's too many, but ten to fifteen, Like,

293
00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm still script and runs for Lamar. Absolutely, I'm not

294
00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,720
Speaker 1: just saying like, if it's stuff is not open, let

295
00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,960
Speaker 1: him run, like you gotta let Lamar b Lamar, and

296
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,240
Speaker 1: even if that does increase his injury factor, just having

297
00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,480
Speaker 1: better back up. You gotta take the full package. You

298
00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,960
Speaker 1: gotta take the full package, and and a big piece

299
00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,200
Speaker 1: of that package is the running ability. Exactly. All right,

300
00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,640
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk a little bit about the season

301
00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,920
Speaker 1: as a whole, and I think we'd all agree that

302
00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,480
Speaker 1: it was a success. I mean, you get back in

303
00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs after missing it for three straight years, you're

304
00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,400
Speaker 1: four or five at the midway point and totally came

305
00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,960
Speaker 1: back to make an awesome run and win the NFC North.

306
00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,880
Speaker 1: How much of a success is it, because obviously the

307
00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,560
Speaker 1: Ravens have Super Bowl aspirations every year and they fell

308
00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,360
Speaker 1: short of that. It was the first first exit in

309
00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Sorry, it was the first time they lost

310
00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,080
Speaker 1: their first game in the playoffs under John Harmlos. That

311
00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,440
Speaker 1: more clear, um, thank you. So you know, how do

312
00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,120
Speaker 1: you step back and look at this season as a whole.

313
00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you had said at the

314
00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,840
Speaker 1: start of the season, you win the n f C North,

315
00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,920
Speaker 1: are you happy? Do you take it? Do you take it?

316
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,600
Speaker 1: And most things I think would have even if you

317
00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,240
Speaker 1: knew that you got bounced from the playoffs in the

318
00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,000
Speaker 1: first round. With that said, I think it's it's certainly

319
00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,920
Speaker 1: a disappointing end. You lose a home playoff game to

320
00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,760
Speaker 1: a team that you've just beaten and really handled two

321
00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,560
Speaker 1: weeks earlier, and it was the reverse restory this week.

322
00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,160
Speaker 1: They just absolutely dominated that game. But then the Ravens

323
00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,680
Speaker 1: still had a chance to win in their final possession,

324
00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,680
Speaker 1: which is crazy, very similar to the charge. So so

325
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,400
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's a it's a positive season.

326
00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,640
Speaker 1: You have the first ranting defense in the NFL, you

327
00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,280
Speaker 1: win the division home playoff game, all that, I think

328
00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,800
Speaker 1: the ending um and just getting sort of dominated the

329
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,960
Speaker 1: way that they did just kind of lose a sour

330
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,920
Speaker 1: taste in your mouth. Well, if they had like played

331
00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,560
Speaker 1: better and they just ended up losing, it would have

332
00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,200
Speaker 1: been Although I would not have that for the Bears.

333
00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean I've said to people, you know, like I

334
00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,760
Speaker 1: would have loved for the Ravens to win the home

335
00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,520
Speaker 1: playoff game, and then everything you every around from there

336
00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,800
Speaker 1: is sort of the cherry on top. Now, how the

337
00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,240
Speaker 1: Ravens won on Sunday and they're going into New England.

338
00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,840
Speaker 1: I probably would have said, if you just wanted one

339
00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,800
Speaker 1: more game, I probably would have said that exactly. I

340
00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,479
Speaker 1: probably would have said that the entire way. But I

341
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,280
Speaker 1: truly do believe that's the one thing that I wish

342
00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,959
Speaker 1: that they were able to win that game on Sunday,

343
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,119
Speaker 1: but at home and all that, and and really have

344
00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,920
Speaker 1: some good vibes about how everything ended. But there were

345
00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,879
Speaker 1: some great moments this season that went in l A

346
00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,800
Speaker 1: that C. J. Mosely interception to clinch the playoffs spot

347
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,520
Speaker 1: with such a great moment. To me, like, this is

348
00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,760
Speaker 1: a year with some awesome moments, and it didn't end

349
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,480
Speaker 1: obviously the way they wanted. But I think that they're

350
00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,800
Speaker 1: still like I think you still walk away from the season,

351
00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,760
Speaker 1: especially now a few days removed, and you can say,

352
00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,720
Speaker 1: all right, that was fun. That was a fun year,

353
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,680
Speaker 1: and you found the quarterback who you believe will be

354
00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,120
Speaker 1: your quarterback in the future, which is maybe the most

355
00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,600
Speaker 1: important thing on the agenda exam. I mean, they had

356
00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,000
Speaker 1: a heck of a year. To me, they got better,

357
00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,960
Speaker 1: they got younger, and they found that fantastic quarterback. That's

358
00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,160
Speaker 1: a lot for one year. Even Lamar So Porters after

359
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,440
Speaker 1: he was drafted, I think we're thinking that after this year,

360
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 1: we're not gonna know as much about him as we

361
00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,800
Speaker 1: would like to and whether he can really be the

362
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,120
Speaker 1: franchise guy. And we certainly wouldn't note it instantly as

363
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,880
Speaker 1: soon as he got into the lineup the whole organizationship.

364
00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,399
Speaker 1: He's really The excitement level among fans, among players just

365
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,560
Speaker 1: went through the roof. The Ravens are fun again this year.

366
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's a big thing too. The Ravens got

367
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,919
Speaker 1: fun again this year, and so they checked off a

368
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,760
Speaker 1: lot of things this year, particularly having not made the

369
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 1: playoffs at all the last two years. I mean, you know,

370
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 1: Ravens fans and Ravens players, the standards here are very high,

371
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,439
Speaker 1: but it's not easy to make the playoffs. And it

372
00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,760
Speaker 1: got to be almost I'm not gonna say taking granted,

373
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,879
Speaker 1: but it got to be regularity during John's first years

374
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 1: that the Ravens go to the playoffs and just see

375
00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,119
Speaker 1: how far they go. Now having been humble for a

376
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 1: few years, this to me was a major step four.

377
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 1: The Ravens were on the cusp of a big organizational change.

378
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,359
Speaker 1: I mean they were on the cuspo of the total rebuild. Really,

379
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Ozzy Knewso there's obviously a lot of talk

380
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,200
Speaker 1: about John Harbor in his future here, uh starting quarterback,

381
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 1: a lot of aging veterans. Now. Not only did that,

382
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,600
Speaker 1: usually a lot of teams that are on the cusp

383
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 1: of that who have been losing for several years and

384
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 1: now of the playoffs, they have one really bad year,

385
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm talking really bad year, and then they reset it

386
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 1: and then maybe they return a better team for it.

387
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 1: Look at the Colts right in the transition between Payton

388
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,960
Speaker 1: Manning and Andrew Luck. Payton got injured, they were awful,

389
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,639
Speaker 1: drafted Andrew Luck and instantly turned around. The Ravens turned

390
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,639
Speaker 1: around their franchise while winning the a f C North

391
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,199
Speaker 1: and now have opened this window. And like you were

392
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: talking about, Cliff had a bunch of rookie step on

393
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 1: the play really well and other young players. So now

394
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 1: they've opened up this window where you're looking at next year,

395
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens will probably be the favorites or

396
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 1: a on them to win the a s C North,

397
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 1: probably be considered they will definitely be considered a playoff

398
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,479
Speaker 1: contender again next year. I mean you've kind of almost

399
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: in away reset it while having success, which is pretty abnormal. Yeah,

400
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar gets so much attention, but looking at

401
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: all the young players that I'm looking forward to seeing

402
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 1: them to the Marlin, Humphrey, Orlando Brown, Gus Edwards, Mark Yeah,

403
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 1: don't leave your boy out, ye and hay and Hurst,

404
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,399
Speaker 1: even though obviously got a lot of grief as not

405
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: producing like people thought he would as a number first

406
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 1: round pick, he showed signs coming on to the end

407
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 1: that he could turn it around, and he definitely suffered

408
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 1: an injury that I give him credit for not making excuses,

409
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 1: but when you have foot surgery, uh in August, this

410
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 1: is one like an off season thing. He wasn't right

411
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: this year. I think, you know, no matter what you

412
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 1: think he's going to become, Hurst wasn't healthy a large

413
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: part of this season. So they have a lot of

414
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: young players who should be ascending can grow together. That's exciting,

415
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: And it's Peanut Jude on some of those other younger

416
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 1: guys that aren't necessarily rookies. You know, I agree with

417
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: everything you're saying, but I don't want to spend too

418
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: much time on this. But I also don't think that

419
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 1: it's time to completely turn the page on the old

420
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: guys on the defense. But that's like a big conversation

421
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: to big question this offseason, the wet old songs give

422
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: me do you just turn the page or do you

423
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: just try to keep the band together? And I'm more

424
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 1: of the ilk that you maybe try to keep the

425
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: band together as much as possible for one one more

426
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: maybe two, probably probably one now, not to say yeah,

427
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, not to say that, like, you

428
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: keep it together and then you have one more year

429
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: of your window being open. I think like you're saying

430
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: that when there's open but I think specifically with this

431
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: defense being so good. Yeah, before we get into because

432
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: we do want to talk about we'll go around the

433
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: circle here and talk about the biggest offseason priority. You

434
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: can already. Oh yeah, let the cat on the bag

435
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: on yours. Uh. I wanted to go back and this

436
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: is something that you know, we're gonna have her on

437
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: the pot here. Michelle andres are our boss, right. Uh.

438
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: She is a big fan of this is going back

439
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: and self scouting. It's going back to what your prediction

440
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: was and seeing if you were right. Okay, because she

441
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: just and I agree. You know, every it's easy to

442
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: toss out of prediction. Everybody does it. Everybody can do it.

443
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: Does anybody keep tracking? Anybody keep tracking? Anybody keep score?

444
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: So we went back Herett and listen. I wish I

445
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: remember wrote down what podcast number it was for fans,

446
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: but you can find it there's our season predictions podcast.

447
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: Cliff was on this and again he was the judge.

448
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: He was a judge. He was about like three days

449
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: into the job right at this point something like that.

450
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,719
Speaker 1: It was I think it was three weeks actually, but yeah, alright,

451
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: So I'll start going through this. Okay, we started at

452
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: We'll start here. Flacco over under four thousand passing yards.

453
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: I know, I said under. Garris said, under, I said over,

454
00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: how many finished? Man, I will say, okay, so let's

455
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: keep track here Garrett one Yon zero. Okay, Um, and

456
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: let's just say that Joe was on pace to finish

457
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: with a career high in passing yards. Was a question

458
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: on I'm just saying, I'm just qualifying. You have one,

459
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: just throwing out the qualifier that he was on pace

460
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: for a career high. Okay, Next, Alex Collins over under

461
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: a thousand rushing yards. I know, I know, we both said.

462
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: We both said over, so we both get zero for

463
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: that one. Um, now we have interceptions leader, I don't remember.

464
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: I think a man, we both zo zero. Brandon Carr,

465
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey and Jimmy all had to each his two

466
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: in the final game. Right we could have We could

467
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: have basically picked any member of the secondary and then

468
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: done better than we Seriously, Uh, sax leader, Now, you

469
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: chided me when I went back and listen to this,

470
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: for I would never picked Sugs to be the SAX leader.

471
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: I always think he's gonna be certain, but used missed it.

472
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: But then I went with Sugs, And so do you

473
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: sgs have what seven and a half? Seven? Seven and

474
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: a half um so, which is interesting because I think

475
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: if you were if if if I were to not

476
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: have picked Sugs, I probably would have gone with Judean

477
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: over Zadarius, like if I were thinking, but Judn't had

478
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: eight I believe in in Zadarius was eight and a half.

479
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: Receptions leader. You went with Smokey. I went with crab Tree.

480
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: The right answer was really Sneeve. I do remember the

481
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: conversation on that. That was a tough one with receptions,

482
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: touchdown catches. We both went with crabtre We both lost

483
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: once again. Who was the receptions leader touchdown I'm pretty

484
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: sure I think it was John Yeah it was. It

485
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: wasn't by a lot, but he was a leader receiving yards.

486
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: You went with John Brown. Huh who ended up with

487
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: leading the team? Leading the team? Now he said he's

488
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: gonna top a thousand, He did not do that. Well, yeah,

489
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: I went with Crabtree, only under the guys that I

490
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: didn't think John Brown was going to play all sixteen games.

491
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: I said, so you were doubly wrong. Can we take

492
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: a point away from you on that. You can't be

493
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: in the negative zero so far. Oh boy, okay, So

494
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: now we get to break Out Player of the year. Okay,

495
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm on the board on this one. I went when

496
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: I first said John Brown, you wouldn't let me do

497
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: it because you said John Brown's on a breakout player,

498
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: you sign it. So I went with Marlon Humphrey. Very

499
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: good pick. When the m v P team m VP

500
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: from the media, you went with Darius Smith, another good pick.

501
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: We just get one for that. I'm already I've got three, though,

502
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: because you have three, you got three for me. Oh no,

503
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You're right, you're right, you're receiving yards. You're

504
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: right three months all right. Rookie of the Year or

505
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: most impactful Rookie is how we worded it. You went

506
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: with Orlando Brown. Okay, pretty solid pick. I went with

507
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: Haye Nurse. But but I don't think you get a

508
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: point for that, because I would be at least get

509
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: a half. Don't you get a half? Jackson? Go on,

510
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: here's what you get. You get your pig was better

511
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: than mine. But you want to get a point? He started,

512
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: he started taking answer right, very good, but the question

513
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: is most impactful rookie, and then there's no doubt that

514
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: the answer was Okay, the Ravens make the playoffs. If

515
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: I said if the Flacco meter is elite, you said,

516
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: if the Ravens can stop their late game defensive meltdown. Yeah,

517
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: that's a point. That's a point. Did you time me

518
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: for that too? I think you try to be thin.

519
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: I came back and said, like, that's all a little overhype.

520
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: That like so good. I love it all right now? No,

521
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: oh sorry, this is like I knew this is what

522
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: you were gonna love this as I was going through

523
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: comeback Player of the Year. You said Tavon Young not

524
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: a bad pick. I think my pick was better, though,

525
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: I said, Marshall Yanda, But I mean Tavon Young the

526
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: Scoopa score in Los Angeles, Yeah, I mean Marsha point.

527
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: What do you think I think Yanda was an easier pick.

528
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: You know, if Yanna stayed healthy, he's a great player.

529
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: That's a good call. Yeah, all right, um, and lastly,

530
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: we predict the predicted the final record. Okay, and this

531
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: is rice. I attoned for all my mistakes here get

532
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: ten and six. I went ten of six. It was, well,

533
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: we did over and under nine and I and I did,

534
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: I said over, and I said, I think it's gonna

535
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: be ten win season, okay. And I my argument that

536
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: I made was, I think the defense will be better

537
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: than it was last year. I said, a top five

538
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: unit one in the NFL. And I said, I break

539
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: the offense will be in the top ten. They finished

540
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: number nine. And what did I say? You said, you

541
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: haven't hard and you made a big, long talk about

542
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: how the Ravens opponents, about how the Raven's opponents were

543
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: so much smarter they were, and the Ravens weren't gonna

544
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: get a bunch of backup quarterback. They So you you

545
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: gave this long qualifier and then we made you nail

546
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: it down. You're like you over under and you really, well,

547
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: I can't go company man. Basically, you gave a long

548
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: qualifier that led to like you basically saying, I think

549
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna go under, and then you said it over.

550
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: But and you said, and you said your reasoning for that,

551
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: I'll give you credit was once again you said you

552
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: think they're going to clean up the end of the

553
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: game uh failures that they had, even though that they

554
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: would have fewer turnovers which happened. Yeah, which even the

555
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: turnover point interesting the turnover point, yeah, well, we both

556
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: mentioned that they probably wouldn't get a turner. Um, so

557
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: I congratulate you absolutely dominant, not that you did well

558
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: because you miss a lot here yetal sugs touchdowns reception

559
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: did great. But next year, can you please predict won't

560
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: go to the the Super Bowl exactly? The opposite of what

561
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: I predict comes exactly. I'll have to make up for this.

562
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: In our mock draft. Was gonna say this is this

563
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: is sort of like orders or stored in the world.

564
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: You had a hot mock draft. Was hit Orlando Brown

565
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: and you hit Hayden Hurts, and typically his mock drafts

566
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: are demination. It is ugly and so and I dominated

567
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: you in the travel draft. It was feeling pretty good.

568
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: Draft doesn't even exists. You're feeling pretty good about it,

569
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: and so this basically restores order in the world. I

570
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: feel good about this all right. Before we let Cleff go,

571
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about we're gonna roll it for it a

572
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: little bit to and we're not gonna get into all

573
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty. Who should the Ravens draft and you

574
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: should be released and who should they resigned and all

575
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: that stuff, because we got plenty of podcasts to talk

576
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: about that, But just kind of big picture, what do

577
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: you guys think is the biggest off season priority for

578
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: the Ravens. I think it's to not have their defense

579
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: be blowing up by the whatever personnel decisions are made.

580
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: I think that this defense had a great chemistry. I

581
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: think that wing Martindale did a heck of a job

582
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: as defensive coordinator, and his familiarity with all the personnelity

583
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: he has, and the fact that they have so many

584
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: players really everybody back from last year's defense really helped

585
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: them as a unit. And I know everybody's not coming back,

586
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: but I think it's key that they not make too

587
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: many changes to this defense that was the best in

588
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. And as they defense travels and we go

589
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: all those of what changes they make offensively and how

590
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: much Lamar improves. If they have a defense it's a

591
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: top five defense again next season, that alone could be

592
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: enough to keep them as a team that gets back

593
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Well, I already talked about the offensive line.

594
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: I think I think that beef up the offensive line

595
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: and had a stud running back could you imagine this

596
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: team with do you have a you know, Ryan, I

597
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: you and I've talked about Leonard for I just read

598
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: as we were doing this podcast that Leonard fer Nette

599
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: met with Tom Coughlin and the Jags to clear the

600
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: air and things are looking good for him staying in

601
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: Jackson exactly. But but I do a stud running back

602
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: and beef up this offensive line, and that's a scary

603
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: offense for next year. To me, the biggest offseason priority

604
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson. How are you going to build up

605
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: kind of to your How are you going to build

606
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: this offense around Lamar? Because last year the Ravens were

607
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: kind of in limbo. I mean, they were building an

608
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: offense for Joe. They talked about it, they said, these

609
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: moves are made for Joe Flacco. They weren't necessarily able

610
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: to completely plan for the future because they wanted to

611
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: give Joe another shot at it to prove himself. This offseason,

612
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: it's clearly all about Lamar. Not only is it Lamar

613
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: improving from a coaching and mechanics and all that kind

614
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: of standpoint, improving him as a passer and whatnot, improving

615
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: his reading of defenses and understanding of the offense and

616
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: opening up more of the Ravens offense for him. But

617
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: it's also building an offense around Lamar the best maximizes

618
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: what he does best. That's, to me, the biggest prayer. Yeah,

619
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: I and I agree with that, And the reason I

620
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: pointed the nuance is basically, I think that doing those

621
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: things will allow what you're Yeah, but I think we

622
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: would all agree that Lamar taking another staff development is

623
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: first and foremost for that. That's its priority number one

624
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: for everything related to this team the next few years,

625
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. All right. With that said, we're going to

626
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: welcome in Michelle andres our boss for a little evaluation.

627
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: Garrett of I mean, we just cast this year, just

628
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: went through it. But yeah, it's it's kind of like

629
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: season end season review times. So let's bring it on, alright,

630
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: Michelle a k a. The Bows. The Bows brought you

631
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: on to you know, the end of season, end of

632
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: the year, the counter year. Why do you give me

633
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: that look? I already feel like I'm in trouble. This

634
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: is why we need the cameraon here. I'm sweating already.

635
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: Good that way, it's your performance review time, Okay, so

636
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: you got to review the Lounge podcast and how we

637
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: did this year. Also, we got to share some of

638
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: these details. We need to talk about it. I think

639
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: we need to share some of these details. So weever,

640
00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: whatever our preseason predictions, because we all know that you

641
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: like to hold people yes. Why is that? I just

642
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: find it annoying that people make a prediction then it

643
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: doesn't come to fruition and nobody calls him out on it.

644
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: It's true. If you're wrong all the time, maybe you

645
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: lose your press schedule, You're just you're just always wrong.

646
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: You don't know what shock about right light of these results,

647
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: So go ahead and share the quick Overview quicker reviews

648
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: that I did not know at all what was gonna happen.

649
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: I got nothing right, hardly anything one right. I got

650
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: one right in the most important one right, and that

651
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: was what the Ravens record was going to be, and

652
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: that we're going to be in the playoffs, and why

653
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: we're going to be in the playoffs. That was an

654
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: incredible spin zone. He shares the one that he got right.

655
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: We totally tallied him up. I got five correct, make

656
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: got one correct. It's true. Why do you work here? Right?

657
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: Why do you pay this guy you're starting the tough

658
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: question anyway show. That's a good segue your review of

659
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: the Lounge podcast this year. You listen to every single

660
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: one of them. You are our editor, kind of our

661
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: QC little quality control. You tell us to take out

662
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: some of the more ridiculous things that we say that

663
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: never make it to light. What would you say you

664
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: liked about the podcast? What things that Garrett say that

665
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: you didn't like? And what great things did I say

666
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: that you loved? Pretty much almost every week end up

667
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: saying that you're both googers. She's like you to a

668
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: couple of goopers. What is it? Why? Why do you

669
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: say that? What makes you say that? Because you think

670
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: you're far funnier than you actually are. Yikes, that one

671
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: cuts deep that. I think it's the big win. It's

672
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: always that we always say with that, and you're just

673
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: like that would be on the list. Yes, yes, overall,

674
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: I think you all do a fine job. Fine a

675
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: five out of ten or you need that's like fine,

676
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: like you know, that's sort of more how I meant it.

677
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: But I'd give you a seven point seven five alright,

678
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: sees sees get de greased. The easiest, easier, easy answer

679
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: on a scale one ten, you know, is a seven.

680
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: So she's above that favorite favorite episode of the year. Oh,

681
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: you're putting it on the spot. What was your I

682
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: was gonna ask that what I was? What was your

683
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: What was your favorite episode of the year? Lamar was great?

684
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: That was both of the quarterbacks. I think r G

685
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: three was very good. Um, Lamar is adorable. I would

686
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: have to say this one because you brought Michelle. Oh nice,

687
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: nothing like a little brown nose. Now you seed to

688
00:36:53,800 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: answer the question why I'm still here? Incredibly transparent, isn't he? Garrett? Yes, us.

689
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing about me and Garrett? And what's

690
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: your nest favorite thing about meeting Garrett as employees and people?

691
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: And Garrett is a very snazzy dresser. No, thank you.

692
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got that on the podcast. Mank is

693
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: not Mink is a pretty snazzy writer. Alright with that?

694
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Mink is the most gooberish of

695
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: all my employees, of all the Garrett spends far too

696
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: much department money. Boom, that's true. So that what should

697
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: we discuss trick plays? Oh, that's a good one. That's

698
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: a good one. When Sam Cooke comes onto the field.

699
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: Is that your favorite part of a game? Because you

700
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: know this potential for the Sam Cook pass. It is

701
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: my hope that Sam will participate in a trick play.

702
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: It rarely happens. I am a proponent of using the

703
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: trick play more frequently. You know what's interesting is about

704
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: that is I think that that sort of is the

705
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: way that the NFL is gone. I think you've kind

706
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: of been ahead of the curve on this because you've

707
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: talked about this for years, and there's more and more,

708
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: Like the Philly Special was running the Super Bowl last

709
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: year and that was like an iconic play. So I

710
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: think a lot of something. But here's here's the thing,

711
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: is that this year would have been the year to

712
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: do the trick plays with Joe and with Lamar on

713
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: the team at the same time and on the field

714
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: at the same time. Like where wherever was there a

715
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: pitch to Lamar or the throw to Joe or like

716
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: throw it backwards of war and he throws it. I know,

717
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: did we just never get to that one? I kind

718
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: of wish you got to that one. Well, you know,

719
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: Lamar's new, Yeah you want to ease him in. Yeah,

720
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: But next year I have an expectation for more plays.

721
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite player on the seed? Lamar really is,

722
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: because he's adorable. He's so here's the thing, you love

723
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: all the rookies because the rookies come in. They do

724
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: come in and they're very nice, and that's when you

725
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: appreciate appreciate them the most. That's true. That's true. They

726
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: are untainted, yes, by success, by success at that early stage.

727
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: But I think Lamar is going to be different. I

728
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: think he's raised really good, and he lives with his mama,

729
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: and he's just kind and good and humble, and I

730
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: really hope all that stays. I don't have any negative

731
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: judgment about a year old man still living with his mother. No,

732
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: I actually think it's outstanding in his position. I agree

733
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: with you. I only joke. Now. My parents said when

734
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: I graduated college. Yeah, they said, they said, you got

735
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: about three months here after ledge and you're done. I

736
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: understand that. I would say the same thing too, if

737
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: I were living with you. Well, you shared office with

738
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: me for you know what, seven years. I've been trying

739
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: to kick you out for about seven of those. Garrett.

740
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: Garrett has been trying to get his own office for

741
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: a long time. This one right here looks perfect. We're

742
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: taking the lounge. I am totally fine sharing office Michelle.

743
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't give you any hard times about that. And

744
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: I went out of the lounge Garrett and I saying lounge.

745
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: If there isn't lounge, if you had to share an

746
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: office with make you would feel my pain on a

747
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: daily basis. So just like your parents getting the gyros

748
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: out of the drawer, I might have to go back

749
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: and eat one is right now. So Grass, what do

750
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: you think is in store for the twenty nineteen good? Thanks? Yeah, elaborate. Um,

751
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly do not. Now. I hope

752
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: we're able to hold our defense together. UM, I think

753
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: that would be really important. I think I do think

754
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: Lamar will get better, um, and it'll be interesting to

755
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: see what our new general manager, Eric to Costa does

756
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: with the team. UM. I think this season gave everybody

757
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: a lot of hope and excitement. It's been a rough

758
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: few years and this was a really fun season and

759
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: I think the fans were totally into it, and I

760
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: think they'll come back for more in nineteen and I

761
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: hope we're able to deliver. I agree. Do you still

762
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: have fun watching the games, even though you have to

763
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: sit next to us and you yell at us all

764
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: the time. No, I don't enjoy watching the games at all.

765
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: It's torture. But it really has nothing to do with

766
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: you all, and it's just so stressful. Well, here here's

767
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: the real question. Now that Eric the Costa is the

768
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: general manager, will he still torment you on the road

769
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: the way he has? Let's talk that that's a fair question.

770
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: I always have to sit next to him on the

771
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: road and he has done very mean things to my

772
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: computer into me. Well, here's the problem is that whenever

773
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: Michelle gets up from a computer on the road, when

774
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: Eric sitting next to her, she turns to me or

775
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: whoever sitting next to her and says, protect protect my computer.

776
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: While I'm gone. Right, But here's Eric the Costa the

777
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: general manager. And if he was to screw with Michelle's computer,

778
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: am I really going to say, Eric, back off? D

779
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: That's called pickle not if you want to keep your job. Yeah,

780
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: I guess Eric the costas us that have firing power

781
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: over me, you dome any times reminded me quite freaking

782
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: So that's a fair point. But you know, Michelle, one

783
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: thing that I will never ever forget for as long

784
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: as I live. It's one of my best special and

785
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: favorite Ravens memories is when you and I were in

786
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: the press box in the for the High Miracle in

787
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: Denver and Michelle is sitting next to me, and you know,

788
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: it's crunch time and Joe Furrows that passed, and I

789
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: remember you just getting up out of your seat. We're

790
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: the last row, You're in the backs. There's like room

791
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: to walk back there, and you're just going did that? Like,

792
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Did that just happen? Really just happened.

793
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: You're like saying, you don't remember this at all. I

794
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: don't remember you did it was? I will never forget you.

795
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: Like I remember like Fox Burrow, Well threw a chair

796
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: through the window. I remember Fox Burrow when we were

797
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: about to win that game and go to the super Bowl.

798
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: That's where I threw my chair out the window. Oh

799
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: yeah that show? Yeah? Yes, is that? Can we play

800
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: in Foxborrow? That took us to the Yeah Evans Billy

801
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: Hunt if Yeah, you're talking about good Fox Burrow. Yeah.

802
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: When I was just like, oh my god, we're going

803
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. Yeah, I kept looking around at

804
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: everyone who was there with me, going can they come back?

805
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: And they come back? And they come back. We were

806
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: up by what? Yeah, I don't know what it was.

807
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: And then John Eisenberg is like, no, they're not coming back,

808
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we're going to the super Bowl. That's

809
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: my memory. So I remember that one. I don't remember

810
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: blacked out. I was freezing it was that must have

811
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: been it. You sure you're not making that up? Positive?

812
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: So what kind of journalists would I be? Never a

813
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: lot of facts getting way of a good story. Yeah, exactly. Anyway,

814
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Thank you for joining the podcast. Yeah,

815
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: I gotta get going. I know we had to drag

816
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: you on here, but we appreciate you doing it. No,

817
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: it's about time you had me on the invite. It's

818
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: been an open invitation for years, and we finally Michelle

819
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: literally into came by and you're like, why can't. Then

820
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: we're like, all right, come on in, and then you're

821
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: nowhere to be found. I wasn't editing the show. Oh

822
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: I watch the hat fols. That's right. Well, thank you

823
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: for joining us, Michelle. Thank you for finally having me.

824
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: You can keep your job, all right. Well, thank you

825
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: to Michelle Thank you to Cliff. The two thousand eighteen

826
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: seasons in the books and success. It was a success

827
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: North championship and we got to keep our jobs. Yes,

828
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: most importantly, the second piece is most important. So fun year.

829
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: Lots of exciting things to come in two thousand nineteen.

830
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: And as we always say, at the end of every year,

831
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: people always ask, hey, what are you going to do

832
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: now the season is over? Do you just basically get

833
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: off until August? Answers No, there's a lot of things coming.

834
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: I'll be out of the Pro Bowl in two weeks,

835
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: I'll be there. We've got the Combine coming up, We've

836
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: got owners meetings, we've got free agency in March, the drafts,

837
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: in your bowl, Senior Bowls in two weeks. So there

838
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: is no shortage of events and we'll be here to

839
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: cover all of it. So the off season, in many ways,

840
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: it's not quite as busy, but there's periods of time

841
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: where it is just as busy, if not more than

842
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: a regular season. And guess what they just announced that

843
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: Eric to cost us on his contract become the GM.

844
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: So with that we're off and running. Let's hoot Garrett

845
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: for a big off season. Thanks for listening.