1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: A flash of light, an angry fight, no luggage in sight, 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: my darkest night. I'm Bo Brimley and my husband went 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: missing a few days ago, so I decided to start 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: a podcast to get to the bottom of where he 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is so my baby can come home. This is Tooked. 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone today has been really hard. To be honest, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: my husband is still gone. Um hashtag find Greg. I 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: talked to my therapist about it. I said, Okay, what 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: makes a guy or gal or a person just up 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: and take another human being from their bed where they 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: were sleeping softly after an argument with their wife? You 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: know what makes them take that person's stuff and luggage? 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: But we their wedding ring almost like it was thrown, 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, like like you're throwing out trash or something crazy. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: You know what, what kind of sick funck does all that? 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know, And it makes me worry that 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: the sick funk that did it, that it's too late 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: from my Greg, that maybe he's been kidnapped and I 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: haven't found him in time. Greggy. Maybe I haven't found 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: him in time, and now maybe he's murdered and maybe 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: he's called You know, I was flipping through the channels 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: and I was I was watching tennis and just thinking 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: how much I hated it. Was like, oh, I used 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: to complete the greg about hating this ship, and I thought, Wow, 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: we still have ESPN two. Craig used to say, you know, 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: I'd rather note than cancel my ESPN too. So I mean, 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: does that mean something like like he's still alive? Maybe? 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: So I'm just worried, like what does that mean? Like 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: we still have ESPN two, but like I don't know, 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: maybe somebody's like posing as him just to make me 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: think that he's still around. Just the oldest trick in 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: the murderer's book. And I just worried I'm too late, 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: and so so I wanted to talk to someone who 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: it is too late for her because her boyfriend was murdered. 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: We met in a grief group I joined this morning, 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: and um, we hit it off right away because we're 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: both sawing probably and we kind of talked about how 38 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: semi of our situations are. So I want to introduce 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: to the podcast Billy's Immerman. Billy Welcome, Hi, thank you 40 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: so much for having me. Yeah, thanks for kind of 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: hanging around all day. I know, Um, you know, we 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: had the grief group and you were like, I live 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: really far away. I was like, please me on the podcast, 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: and so I kind of made you hang around my 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: house and from from the morning till the evening. Well 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: that's that's okay. The lean cuisine your microwaved for me 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: was delicious, awesome. I appreciate just just hanging out. So 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: glad um billy. I know you had your own, um 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: brush with death via somebody else, brushing death directly. Um, 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: so could you tell us what a really horrible thing 51 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: happened to you that I relate to. Sure. My boyfriend 52 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Chad and I were at Kmart and we were going 53 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: up the escalator after having picked up our Caprice son 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: that we were there to buy, and as we ascended, uh, 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: someone pushed Chad over the railing of the escalator and 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: he was chopped in half as we hit the second 57 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: the second floor. My god, it's like you're reading a 58 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: page from my book. This is like so freaking relatable 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: to me right now. Like before this happened, I didn't 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: honestly get you know, grief and when people would talk 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: about like death, like lose losing somebody. But now I'm 62 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: like I feel it. I just feel at Greg's in 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: peril and it's like and he's gone, and I feel 64 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: that law. So I really really sympathize with you, Billy. 65 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You know, grief comes out of nowhere. 66 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Someone once told me that grief is good minus the 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: hood at in the reef, and that has really resonated 68 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: with me for a long time. Um, I feel like 69 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm just understanding what that means. I used to not 70 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: really get it, and I feel like I'm getting it. 71 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: You know. My backstory is that, you know, my husband, God, 72 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: it feels so weird. I almost used the past tense 73 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: since a dead husband, but my husband, he has been missing. 74 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: It was up. He was in the middle of the 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: night we had. We had a pretty big fight that 76 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: I woke up. I woke up and I just noticed 77 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: all the first tho it was a closer gone and 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: I was a hot And then I noticed his luggage 79 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: was gone, and I was like, oh good what And 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: he was gone. He was gone and all I found 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: it was like a pen left behind and some receipts 82 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: and some trash. It's just all his stuff was gone. 83 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, who kidnapped him and had time 84 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: to take all of this stuff. What kind of sucking 85 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: monster with a U haul came here? And it was 86 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: just so fucking upsetic and and and I'm just worried. 87 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: It's been it's been a few days now since I've 88 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: heard from him, and you know, someone at the fucking 89 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: to be like he left you, and I was like, 90 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy. Yeah, I'm so sorry about that. You 91 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: know what I'll say. As I mentioned before, the man 92 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: that killed my Chad is still at large. So okay, 93 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what I'm not sure what else he's done. 94 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: I can't say or not say that he didn't hurt 95 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: your husband as well. Okay, I have a question, and 96 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if this is painful. Did he have like 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: red lips? Absolutely? Absolutely? I used to always call him 98 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: my Swedish fish lipped boy. Oh my god. Wait okay, 99 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: so I actually meant did the murderer have red lips? 100 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: But dad had red lips? I think that's all. I'm 101 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: not sure. The man was wearing a Ronald Reagan mask 102 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: when he pushed my chat, so I never saw him. 103 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: But but my my boyfriend Chad did have red lips. Wow. Okay, 104 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: well that's and he didn't he hasn't murdered her, kidnapped anyone, right, 105 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Well he is dead, Okay, that's true. You said that, Okay, 106 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: because we had this like forensic fucking loser doctor on 107 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: the thing that that she was saying was like, I 108 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: found this receipt that had like a little red lipsick. Sorry, 109 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: it was a receipt for like a train ticket whatever, 110 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: And this fucking losers were like, oh, oh my god, 111 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: it's probably an affair. And I was like, uh no, 112 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: you stupid bitches. Women and people who were makeup in 113 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: general can be murderers too. That is the equality I 114 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: want to live in. And so they just like, don't 115 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: blew my theory that maybe someone was out there. So 116 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, maybe, yeah, maybe your murderer has red lips 117 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: or wears lipstick or something and goes to hotels with 118 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: people and goes on train trips with them, and maybe 119 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: they freaking murdered Greg. Maybe. I don't know. What I 120 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: will say is my boyfriend Chad was a train conductor. Billy. 121 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: When did Chad died? Chad died in two thousand thirty 122 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: two thirteen, was eight years ago, December on Christmas. Every 123 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: year on Christmas chat and I would go to the kmart. 124 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: We would get Capri son, we'd come home, we'd put 125 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: him in the freezer. We'd take him out of the freezer. 126 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: Once they were frozen, we'd cut open the packaging and 127 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: then we had big popsicles on tiny little straw sticks. 128 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: And that is what we did every year on Christmas. Wow, 129 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: cold on cold, Oh my god. Okay, if I'm doing 130 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: the math correctly, if your husband was murdered, sorry, boyfriend 131 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: was murdered in two thousand thirteen, and my husband was 132 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: taken from me a few days ago, I don't think 133 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: that math checks out. I gotta be honest. I almost 134 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: kind of came at you really, really, really fucking hard, 135 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: because I was like, your husband very clearly murdered. My sorry, 136 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: your boyfriend, you weren't married at all. Well, I have 137 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: a theory. I have a theory. Okay, go on. My 138 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: theory is that Chad was going to propose to me 139 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: on that Christmas Day. Okay, well, I guess you know 140 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: that's like conjecture and we don't really know that would 141 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: have happened. I think he was going to Okay, Billy, 142 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: not to be rude, but this is like a podcast 143 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: about like facts and not just like random projections and crazy. Well, 144 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: I just think maybe he was because he kept saying, 145 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait to ring in the new year with you, 146 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: and he had never said that to me before. He 147 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: had never even mentioned New Year's Eve, New Year's Day. 148 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: He didn't say the word ring often. We had a 149 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: ring doorbell and he wouldn't even call it that, And 150 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's sang ring. And that made 151 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: me think that he was going to propose to me 152 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: right after he right after when he did actually die. 153 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: You you literally do sound crazy. So I'm just going 154 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: to kind of put a pin in that and move on, 155 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: just because again, this is a podcast for Fox. So 156 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: here's my thing. I just feel like I have clues, 157 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: I have evidence, but I don't have anywhere to take it. 158 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: And this is where I'm like time is running out 159 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: and I've still not heard from my Greg. So let 160 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: me ask you. You saw your husband's boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, 161 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: not married, number numbered, soon to be fiance. Okay, you 162 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: saw him get murdered, right, I did, Yes, So there 163 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: was no what happened like like, well, there is what happened. 164 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: What happened? He was murdered by a stranger wearing a 165 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan mask, and I don't know who it was, 166 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: and the murderer is still at large. You know, I'm 167 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: trying to think. I'm like, was there's someone with the 168 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan mask in my room that they greg got taken? 169 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: I'm like trying to remember. I don't remember anything like that, 170 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: and I usually get up, but what think? What if? 171 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: What the Oh my god? What if this is just 172 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: like a serial killer out on the fucking loose, you know, absolutely, 173 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you, his underwear is god, his cologne, 174 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: his face creams gone. I mean, this is clearly an 175 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: unwell person. They took all this ship in the middle 176 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: of the night. Serial Killers do go dormant, That's what 177 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: I'll say. So I can't speak to whether or not 178 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: your boyfriend is a lot. We got married, we have 179 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: beautiful photos. Well, okay, this is um, it's kind of 180 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot. This is kind of a lot. I'm gonna 181 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: call my detective guy because I think this is a 182 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: kind of crucial intel. This Ronald Reagan thing is huge. 183 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: I wonder if even maybe your friend having the red 184 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: lips is huge or interesting to him. He was my 185 00:10:53,960 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: almost fiance. Okay, he is my almost literally. Okay, he 186 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: was my almost literally. Okay, I lost my virginity to him. Okay, 187 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: we all probably did. I'm gonna call detective right now. 188 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: Spitch sometimes doesn't answer my calls. We're sorry, but the 189 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: phone number you were trying to call has been blocked 190 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: by the wireless. Okay, I'm gonna try a good he's 191 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: likes to wait. Actually, give me your phone. Who's this? 192 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: Who's the background? That's Chad. That's right after he was murdered. 193 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: This is a gruesome picture. I never want to forget 194 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: what happened that day. I got it. I mean, I 195 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: get it. I have all people. I mean, look at 196 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: my background on my phone. That's your husband. This is 197 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: my husband. You two got married, Yes, we got married. 198 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: It's an unlikely pair. Oh why because he's six ft 199 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: nine and I'm four ft eleven. Because he's wearing a 200 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: basketball jersey and I have on a big tube dress. 201 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: Why all the things you mentioned, and there's also you know, 202 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: very different attractiveness levels. They Okay, oh Mullins, from your 203 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: detective Mullins, No crime is to slime minds. It's me. 204 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: Don't hang up or I'll kill you. Okay, it's bow no, yeah, 205 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: yeah up? What is this? You called me on some 206 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: other person's fine owners now yeah wow, you clearly did 207 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: go to detective school Mullins. Congratulations. Okay, listen, all right, Brimdley, 208 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: what do you want I have with me? A woman 209 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: who's friend boyfriend, he was my soon to be fiance 210 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: whose friend was murdered at a KMR by a man 211 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: in a Ronald Reagan mask. Man in a Ronald Reagan mask. 212 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Does that ring any bows for you? No? Man, and 213 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: so think back. So you're trying to make some kind 214 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: of connection between this thing that happened in with a 215 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: soon to be fiance. Yeah, which, by the way, every 216 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: student to be fiance is assumed to be ex wife. Okay, 217 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: now you see kind of what I'm dealing with here. 218 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: Billy Um, are you single by any chance? Currently? Are 219 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: I am? Yeah? Wait? Shut everyone, shut up. Okay, listen. 220 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: I am making a connection between a case of in 221 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: case you know why, Because Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer, 222 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: the Golden State killer. These are people who killed other 223 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: people at different times. It didn't all happen on the 224 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: same night. There was time between those things. Alright, alright, 225 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: let's let's look at the facts. I'm making air quotes 226 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: right now fast, but I can't see them. Okay, we 227 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: have one murder and one maybe soon to be murder. 228 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: To borrow Billy's phraseology, my Gret could be almost Murdergret 229 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: could end up like a freaking Matroi's good doll. He 230 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: left you? Oh really? Then why did he leave his 231 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: wedding ring behind? Because he doesn't want to be reminded 232 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: that he's married to you? Oh? Wow? Convenient? So convenient? 233 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Where they teach you that? And fucking tubit detective school? Listen, 234 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: think back? What were you like seventy five? Think? Okay, 235 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: and think? Was there a Ronald Reagan mask zerial killer 236 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: on the Lucien? Did they promise to kill again? No? 237 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: But you know this all right? Wait? Are you? Are you? 238 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: Billy Zimmerman? Yeah? I am, Yes, I remember your case. 239 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: That was wild. Yeah, it's really hard. I saw the 240 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: whole thing. It's been really hard for me and I 241 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: don't have much comfort at home. And sure, yeah maybe 242 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: we could, like I could we could meet up and yeah, 243 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: I would love that. Get some pumpkin spice lattes. Absolutely 244 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: love that. I've already had three pumpkin spice lattees today too. 245 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: I love that blowsip diarrhea. Let's let's stick to the facts. Okay, 246 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: here are the fact. A man in a Ronald Reagan 247 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: mask pushes a very red lipped man into the crevice 248 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: of an escalator at a kmart. He is basically decapitated. 249 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Plus it's his head puzz a little bit of his shoulders. Okay, 250 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: it was not as I described earlier. It was like 251 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: a Russian nesting doll. He was cut right down the middle, yeah, 252 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: had plus a little bit of shoulders. Courso he was 253 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: cut at the waist Hamburger style. Okay, fine, we have 254 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: a man that was called Hamburger style and a camer Okay, beautiful. 255 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: Whatever he dies, he's gone. Now. Almost an identical series 256 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: of events, we have a man who disappears from his home. 257 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: All his possessions are gone. The things left behind were 258 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: a pen, his wedding ring, a train ticket receipt that 259 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: had red lips on it. At the very least, maybe 260 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: her dead boyfriend freaking took my greg. So now we're 261 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: talking ghosts. Is what you're saying. I thought I didn't 262 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: say ghosts, I said her dead boyfriend. I thought it 263 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: was assumed to be fiancee. Well, technically he's my my 264 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend, and I am I am single, um, and 265 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: I would like to disappear from my home and get 266 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: a PSL with you. Well we'll talk um alright, alright, 267 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: five five five? So well, first of all, they are 268 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: completely different. Mos Alright, a man a Reagan mask doing murder. 269 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: And if big if finger quotes your Greg is being kidnapped. 270 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: You know this murder happened spur of the moment. So 271 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: why wasn't you're Greg just straight up killed? You know what? 272 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he this is so fun. Maybe the reason 273 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: why we haven't heard anything this Maybe Ronald Reagan took 274 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: my Greg's skin and it'd skin around to every But 275 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: he thinks that Mike Greg's a lot because I mean, 276 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: what other explanation is there. I mean, I'm the only 277 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: one that seems to give a fly and hoot that 278 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: he's missing. I would love to just see the inside 279 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: of your brain, see these kinds of logical leaps. All right, 280 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: you just went to skin murder, And let me tell 281 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: you I've seen my fair share skin murders out in 282 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: the game. You don't even want to know what I 283 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: do want to know. Tell me it's gross, all right. 284 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: It takes a lot of work because there's all these 285 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: veins and stuff, and your skin is connected to your muscles. 286 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: You know, Well, this murderer doesn't have to do a 287 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: lot of work. He took all my He took my husband, Sarah, 288 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: they he took my husband's little freaking baby foot. He 289 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: took everything. I'm sorry when you say he took your 290 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: husband's baby foot. I'm just he took the your husband's 291 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: foot after it had completed the baby foot process. Or 292 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: he took the skin funk. I hope not. I found 293 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: the skin. The skin was in the trash after he 294 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: did a baby foot. What the what are you? What 295 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: the fund are you saying? Baby foot? Baby foot is 296 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: a foot exfoliate. You put these little booties on and 297 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: then over time the acid rips the skin off of 298 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: your feet, the dead skin, and it comes off like 299 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: little eraser shavings throughout the day. That was in the trash. 300 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: I found all of that. I put that where it's 301 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: supposed to go. I put that away. That was all there, 302 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: but he had extra baby for. He does baby for 303 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: every like a few weeks, you know, to keep his 304 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: feet off. Those were all gone. It's murdered. They took 305 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: by Greg. And that's why I've always fucking cares, because 306 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: just some man walking around with his skin out there friendly. 307 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: You gotta get help. I know I'm trying to, but 308 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: you won't help me. Brain help, I said. I keep 309 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: saying this. I said it over and over again. You 310 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: gotta get brain help. I'll get brain help when justice 311 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: is served for Greg and honestly, Chad dead dead or like, yeah, 312 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: let's clear this up. I need to know this before, 313 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: like did you check the well, look at the lock 314 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: screen on my phone again. Okay, so he's that. I 315 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: watched him get cut in half like a Russian nesting dog. 316 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: We can get justice for him, but his face is 317 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: sort of done. It's just like detectives like you get 318 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: their rocks off from saying no, from saying you're a 319 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: crazy woman, you're in hysterics. Stop calling me at four 320 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: in the morning. Get off my lawn, you know, get 321 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: out of my dog's house. You get your rocks off. 322 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: Dove and all that ship. My dog is so fucked up. 323 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: From that thing that you did when you got into 324 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: this house in the middle of the night. Okay, you 325 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: don't need to be in his house. He's a trauma dog. 326 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: He's a rescue. I know he's a rescue. And I 327 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: took him to a show bow wow. Okay, and I 328 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: hid in the doghouse because I knew you would have 329 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: to come to see the doghouse, and you don't have 330 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: to come see me when I'm on your lawn. So 331 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: when you came out to give the dog a little 332 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: food in the morning, I was there to ask you 333 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: to solve my case. Okay, you stay away from my family, 334 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: you stay with my dog. Okay, I don't want to 335 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: hear from you ever again. You're sick in the head. Okay, 336 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: your husband left you. Oh that's rich. Isn't that rich? Billy, 337 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: isn't that rich? Isn't that rich? Well? It does sound 338 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: like woman to woman. Okay, your husband did leave you. 339 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: That's maybe the twelve idea on the list. Okay, whatever, Look, 340 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: I gotta go my kids and the principal's office. All right. 341 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Why he burnt down a kmart? Oh wait a minute, 342 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: show me a picture of your son. No, you already 343 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: know what he looks like. A picture, maybe a Halloween picture. 344 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm not showing you pictures. Show me a halloween picture 345 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: of your son, Billy, let's connect to find me. You 346 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: have my phone number. Son might have murdered your friend. 347 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: My son was five years old in two You never 348 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: saw that episode of the Simpsons where the baby shoots 349 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: the old man. We've all seen it. It was a 350 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: television event. You don't think your five year old could 351 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: shoot your cartoon. Okay, hey, Billy, are you a dom Riso? 352 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: I am switch verse. Thank you so much for him. People. 353 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: Don't you hung up? I literally hung up on him 354 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: because it's his best saying he's such a fucking pervert 355 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: and I hate him. Okay, Billy, you're the first person 356 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: that has even vaguely maybe understood my story. Well, no 357 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: matter what happened to you, I just want to say, 358 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: it's hard losing someone you love. So I hear you 359 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: and I see you, and I'm sorry. Thank you for that. 360 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: Nobody has said that to me. And you know, like 361 00:22:53,880 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: if Greg well unquote left me, you, Oh, I don't 362 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: think that that's true because that literally makes absolutely no sense. 363 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: You know, that is a loss that I would have 364 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: to deal with and like absolutely, yeah, I mean it's 365 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: probably that he was murdered and that's its own special 366 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: kind of loss. Sure. Yeah, well either way, I just 367 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: want to say that I know the financial struggles that 368 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: can be put on a woman after she loses her partner, 369 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: and I just want to let you know about a 370 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: really interesting opportunity that I have for you where you 371 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: have the chance to make your own money as a 372 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: woman and become an empowered girl boss in your own right, 373 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: where you are part of a multi level marketing scheme. 374 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: I am not, Yes you are. Okay, Well, if selling 375 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: essential oils to drink is a multi level marketing scheme, 376 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: then then I'm in a multileing markets might even be poisonous, 377 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: to be honest, Well, it can't be poisonous because there's 378 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: no scientific research done on it. Okay, Yeah, find a 379 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: SCIENTI agrees, Just like how you're not supposed to eat 380 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: bricks and nobody's actually studied that, but you're not supposed 381 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: to eat them because we just know. Okay, I'm coming 382 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: to you with a really exciting opportunity and all I'm 383 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: saying is think about it and let me know if 384 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: you're interested, because it's could be huge for you. How 385 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: much is the mpry level block? So I need you 386 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: to get out, but it's seven essential oils. I need 387 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: you to leave. This is kind of one of those 388 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: things where it's like, oh, no, the person that agrees 389 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: with me is the craziest person in the room. It's 390 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: so like I can't really have that following me around. 391 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: So I do need you to Okay, Well, having millions 392 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: of dollars of essential oils in your basement is crazy, 393 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: then call me crazy. Okay, Yeah, that's crazy. And it 394 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: sounds like you haven't even sold Well, I just got 395 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: them and I'm going to be selling them a lot. 396 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: I go to a lot of farmers markets. I'll tell 397 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: you that much. Okay, I totally buy that about you. 398 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: So thanks so much. I hope they find your your 399 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: your friend, Oh sorry he died, Okay, yeah, best wishes 400 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: to him in heaven in the afterlife. Did you keep 401 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: the bottom half? What happened to the bottom half? No? 402 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: That so this is something that hopefully you'll never have 403 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: to find out. But the police don't keep the bottom half. 404 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: They take the bottom half to a storage facility filled 405 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: with ice, where all the halves of people are kept 406 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: and you're not allowed to bury it, and you're not 407 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: allowed to taxidermy, and you're allowed to take it home 408 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: because it is evidence, and they keep it for the 409 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: rest of forever. If there's anything wrong with our legal system, 410 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: it has to be that. That is so fucked. It's 411 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: your friend, it's my husband. I'm now I'm paranoid if 412 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: I find Greg skinless somewhere that they're not gonna let 413 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: me keep that, don't they won't. Don't tell the police 414 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: if you find him skinless. Don't tell the police, because 415 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: they're not going to find whoever killed your husband, and 416 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: they're just gonna take his body and put it in 417 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: a big ice chest you're never gonna be allowed to 418 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: go into even if you them, if you can buy 419 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: a ticket to it like it's a Museum's country is 420 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: so messed up. Thanks so much, Um for joining us. 421 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: And guys again, I'm just putting out another call to action. 422 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: If you see my Greg skinless, extra skin, regular, amounts 423 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: of skin, anything, please please let me know, drop me 424 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: a line, email me to send me stail and they'll 425 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: call my house called Mullins his house. He doesn't care. 426 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: Please please, I just have to find my Greg. Sueit 427 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: it next week, where I hope we finally find the 428 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: second buck that took him from me.