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Speaker 1: this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name is job Bob.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: Together.

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Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This

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Speaker 1: is Turning Point Tonight. Now, before we get to any

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Speaker 1: You may be thinking, why is this at the front

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Speaker 1: Here to comments on that and so much more, is

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Speaker 1: there a fantastic panel for the day. Morgan McMichael is

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Speaker 1: a TPUSA contributor. In Terry Shilling is the President of

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having us. Morgan, I want to start with

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Speaker 3: Couple of thoughts on this. First of all, ever since

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Speaker 1: at the White House after a what'd you call the

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Speaker 8: And that is what she said verbatim. But what's interesting

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Speaker 1: This is so evidently abundantly clear that this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, we just saw Simone Biles a few weeks

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Speaker 1: support of transports that they have to delete their accounts

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Speaker 1: right when you're winning. And I don't think I don't

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Speaker 1: think it gets appreciated enough. But we just need to

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Speaker 1: keep putting that pressure on these democrats and these radical

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Speaker 1: transactivists until they come to heal. Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: speaking of speaking of women, Morgan, I'm curious about your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 1: Uber has come out with a new policy saying that

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Speaker 1: they're going to allow female riders to specifically and exclusively

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Speaker 1: request female drivers and have female ride shares to keep

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Speaker 1: things comfortable and safe. And in my opinion, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think this this safety rings true. It's it seems

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Speaker 1: to be a win win, you know, minus the more

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Speaker 1: frequent crashes probably, But your your thoughts on Uber's new

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Speaker 1: policy here.

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Speaker 3: Listen, anytime I've had a female Uber driver, I swear

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Speaker 3: I arrived to my destination five minutes late because there

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Speaker 3: is getting a caber going too slow. I am very

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Speaker 3: much not in favor of this. I also don't think

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Speaker 3: it's safer. I one hundred percent feel safer when I

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Speaker 3: have a man as my Uber driver makes ture I

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Speaker 3: get to my destination safely. You know, there's safety features

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Speaker 3: built in the Uber app. I think this is gonna

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Speaker 3: cause a lot of chaos, but hey, if you're a

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Speaker 3: feminist and you really want another feminist to drive you

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Speaker 3: to your destination, then so be it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought I was gonna be the only

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Speaker 1: one that went there, but Morgan to Michael taking the

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Speaker 1: Steve right out of my engine, thank you for thank

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Speaker 1: you for burying the brunt of that I'm a woman.

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Speaker 3: I can say it, it's not.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Terry.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of one of the obvious problems that

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Speaker 1: I see is that Uber has shown to be one

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Speaker 1: of these woke companies.

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Speaker 2: And who's to say that.

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Speaker 1: You can't just be like, hey, I'm also a woman

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Speaker 1: and Dayna a female driver, and you know now you

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Speaker 1: have effectively the bathroom situation in a car. No, that's

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Speaker 1: that's right, Joe. And here's the thing is they are

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see two things happen. One, uh, there will

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Speaker 1: be tons of curbs that have just been absolutely destroyed.

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Speaker 1: And then two, by the way, my car on my

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Speaker 1: every rim of my car is just totally scratched and

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Speaker 1: likest of it anyway. But the other thing is is

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see an increase in men claiming to be

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Speaker 1: trans women on the Uber app. That's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: And you know WHOA yeah, I don't know. I would

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Speaker 1: not want to be one of these female Uber drivers

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Speaker 1: with this type of incentive. Yet curbs and tire rooms

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Speaker 1: everywhere are moaning in despair. Guys, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time. Terry Morgan,

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Speaker 1: have a great rest of your day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks you too. Thank you Coming up next year on

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Speaker 10: Do you think that the six week rule is accurate

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Speaker 10: or do you think women need to wait longer or

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Speaker 10: what are we doing wrong there so that we can

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Speaker 10: avoid it hurting? Just you're saying you just have to

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Speaker 10: do the pelvic floor therapy throughout pregnancy to avoid that

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Speaker 10: or what?

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Speaker 9: No, I mean?

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Speaker 11: The six week mark is really when your uterus has

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Speaker 11: contracted back down, your cervix has closed, You're at less

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Speaker 11: risk of infection with inserting something in the vagina.

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Speaker 9: That's it.

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Speaker 11: It has nothing to do with your pelvic floor, got it.

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Speaker 11: But medical providers don't even know what that six week

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Speaker 11: is based on, let alone how the pelvic floor is functioning.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 11: I think that we need to just educate women and

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Speaker 11: say like, hey, if you're going back to sex, like

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Speaker 11: you can wait longer than six weeks. Sometimes your tutors

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Speaker 11: aren't even if you've had a vaginal birth, sometimes you're

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Speaker 11: still bleeding. So what are the things to look out for? Pain, bleeding, discomfort?

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Speaker 11: Proactively use a lubricant because you typically have vaginal dryness

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Speaker 11: after birth, if you're lactating or breastfeeding because your estrogen

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Speaker 11: levels are lower. And then if you do have pain

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Speaker 11: that persists, that's when you should check in to see someone.

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Speaker 11: You shouldn't let it carry on for months on end.

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Speaker 11: I remember seeing a mom who was eleven months postpartum,

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Speaker 11: and she came into my office and she was like,

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Speaker 11: I've been having pain with sex ever since, like a birth,

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Speaker 11: you know, eleven months ago, and I feel completely broken

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Speaker 11: and it's affecting my marriage, it's affecting my self esteem.

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Speaker 11: We want to have another baby and I can't even

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Speaker 11: you know, be intimate with my partner and after three

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Speaker 11: sessions she was completely.

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Speaker 9: Pain free, because so what did you tell her to do?

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Speaker 11: I think one is just helping women understand like, hey,

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Speaker 11: these are muscles or this is scar tissue, like this

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Speaker 11: is what's happening, and really boil it down to like

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Speaker 11: this is how your body's working, because they've never been

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Speaker 11: educated on that. The second thing is we use in therapy.

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Speaker 11: We do a lot of internal massage. It's like it's

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Speaker 11: not as kind of racy as it seems, but literally,

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Speaker 11: like a patient's lying on the table, I like check

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Speaker 11: their abdominal wall, their back, and their buttocks for muscle

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Speaker 11: tension or trigger points which are like little knots in

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Speaker 11: the muscle. And then I do the same thing internally vagially.

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Speaker 11: Oh really yeah, like in the vagina, finger in the vagina,

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Speaker 11: touch the muscles of the pelvic floor to see like

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Speaker 11: is their tension, is their spasm, Let's work to relax those.

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Speaker 11: Give them stretches at home to relax the pelvic floor.

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Speaker 10: And I'm assuming you doing this is not as scary,

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Speaker 10: invasive and horrific as like gynecologists.

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Speaker 9: You're not in stirrups. There's no bright lights.

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Speaker 11: It almost feels I don't want to say like a

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Speaker 11: SPA like experience, but it's much more relaxing and kind

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Speaker 11: of intimate. It's just you know, there's real sheets and

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Speaker 11: it's one on one and it's not like just jumping

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Speaker 11: right into the pelvic floor. We do a lot of

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Speaker 11: external stretching and breathing and relaxation work as well.

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Speaker 9: And then we give them tools to help them at home.

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Speaker 11: There are these things called vaginal trainers, which look like

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Speaker 11: tampons of different sizes for them to practice inserting in

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Speaker 11: the vagina. There are little wands that you can insert

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Speaker 11: that help release trigger points, so lubricant recommendations. I mean,

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Speaker 11: there's so much that, you know, women just there's so

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Speaker 11: many tools out there to help, and yet they're suffering

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Speaker 11: for eleven months when it literally could take three sessions.

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Speaker 10: Wow, Okay, I love that so much hope, so much

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Speaker 10: hope for people in my audience.

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Speaker 9: I just know it.

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Speaker 10: What are some of the most common pelvic floor problems

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Speaker 10: that people don't even realize, Oh, that's your pelvic floor

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Speaker 10: causing that issue. First, one's leakage, like a little leak

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Speaker 10: with a coffer sneeze or a runner a jump. I

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Speaker 10: mean that's a pelvic floor problem. The other one is

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Speaker 10: having to go to the bathroom a lot. So if

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Speaker 10: you find yourself going to the bathroom every thirty minutes,

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Speaker 10: every hour, multiple times before going to bed, what happens

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Speaker 10: is that your either pelvic floor muscles aren't relaxing well

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Speaker 10: and you're not emptying your bladder, or the pelvic floor

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Speaker 10: muscles kind of quiet the bladder down. So typically, Alex,

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Speaker 10: when you have to pee, your bladder fills and it

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Speaker 10: sends a signal to your brain that like, hey, I

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Speaker 10: have to go pee, and then your muscles tighten up

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Speaker 10: and say, all right, bladder, chill out, give me I

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Speaker 10: need to finish my show with Sarah, and then I'm

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Speaker 10: going to go after Well, if these muscles can't contract

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Speaker 10: well enough to tell the brain to chill out and

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Speaker 10: tell the bladder to quiet down, then you have this

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Speaker 10: constant urge to go, and then you start going all

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Speaker 10: the time. And so bladder training really involves your pelvic

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Speaker 10: floor muscles making sure they contract well and relax well.

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Speaker 9: And so that's.

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Speaker 11: Another common one. Another one is pooping problems, a favorite

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Speaker 11: topic of mine. If you are straining with constipation, you

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Speaker 11: have hemorrhoids. You can't clean well after bomb movement, you

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Speaker 11: have fissures, you leak stool or standing in your underwear.

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Speaker 11: That's likely a pelvic core problem as well. And then

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Speaker 11: another one we talked about is painful sex.

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Speaker 10: Is it true that women should never push to pee?

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Speaker 11: Yes, and thank you for saying that you should not

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Speaker 11: push to pee.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I don't know how to pee without pushing, Doctor Sarah, like,

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Speaker 10: I don't understand this.

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Speaker 9: Yes, you're not alone.

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Speaker 11: I would say that women, and particularly moms, we are

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Speaker 11: always on the go and we want to to do

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Speaker 11: everything as quickly and as efficiently as possible. However, you

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Speaker 11: need to sit and chill for two reasons. Our nervous

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Speaker 11: system is involved in bolom bladder function, so in order

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Speaker 11: nervous system. It can't be really upregulated. That fight or

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Speaker 11: flight response has to be kind of calm and relaxed.

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Speaker 11: The other thing is your pelvic flore muscles need to relax,

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Speaker 11: so your bladder, which is a muscle, pushes the urine

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Speaker 11: out for you. If you're pushing when you're pee, you're

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Speaker 11: almost like tightening your pelvic flom muscles and trying to

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Speaker 11: then push the pe out like against that force, which

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Speaker 11: is not effective, and you can weaken your pelvic four

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Speaker 11: muscles over time.

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Speaker 10: Didn't you post this advice on TikTok and like everybody

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Speaker 10: just freaked out.

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Speaker 9: It went totally viral. Why were they freaking out? Just

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Speaker 9: like me?

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Speaker 10: Like, I don't even understand how you would pee without pushing.

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Speaker 9: Because nobody's taught us. You know, nobody taught us that

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Speaker 9: like to pe, you just sit. Sit is the first one.

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Speaker 11: A lot of us hover over toilet, So unless it's

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Speaker 11: totally gross, sit down, lean forward and just take some

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Speaker 11: deep breath and your bladder is a muscle that pushes

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Speaker 11: the urine out for you. If you push when you pee,

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Speaker 11: you can really weaken your pelvic floor. And we do

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Speaker 11: that eight to ten times a day, and then you

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Speaker 11: end up with pelvic floor problem.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so I was My next question was going to

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Speaker 10: be what are the little things that we're doing unknowingly

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Speaker 10: that is weakening our pelvic floor on a day to

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Speaker 10: day basis.

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Speaker 9: So I guess pushing to p would.

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Speaker 11: Be one pushing to p would be one straining with

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Speaker 11: bomb movements. So I'm a huge fan of this little

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Speaker 11: stool you put under your feet when you're pooping, called

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Speaker 11: the squatty potty, and you place it under your feet

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Speaker 11: when you are pooping, and then you lean forward and

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Speaker 11: that kind of puts you into a squatting position, which

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Speaker 11: is the most natural way to have a bomb movement.

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Speaker 11: If we look back in history or in Asian cultures,

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Speaker 11: they all squat over the ground because it helps relax

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Speaker 11: your pelvic floor. So when you're giving birth, you're kind

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Speaker 11: of in a squatting position. When you're pooping, you need

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Speaker 11: to be in a squatting position because it relaxes your

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Speaker 11: pelvic floor.

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Speaker 9: So use a.

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Speaker 11: Squatty potty, and then don't hold your breath when you're

657
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Speaker 11: trying to bear down to poop.

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Speaker 9: You need to.

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Speaker 11: You can push when you're pooping, but don't hold your

660
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Speaker 11: breath because again, that can weaken your pelvic floor. One

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Speaker 11: of the other ones I tell people is they're holding

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Speaker 11: their breath when they're working out. So if you are

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Speaker 11: at the gym and you're lifting heavy weights or you're

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Speaker 11: you know, doing something that requires a lot of exertion

665
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Speaker 11: and you hold your breath, that actually causes.

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Speaker 9: Weakness on your pelvic floor.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So I see all of these people at the

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Speaker 11: gym and they're holding their breath trying to lift these

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Speaker 11: heavy weights, or they're you know, have these weight belts

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Speaker 11: on and they're just straining, and I'm like, oh my god,

672
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Speaker 11: their public floor is going could put like it's just

673
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Speaker 11: gonna put all this pressure. And then people end up leaking,

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Speaker 11: and it's almost become this like badge of honor if

675
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Speaker 11: you're in these high competitive weightlifting competitions to like pee

676
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Speaker 11: your pants.

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Speaker 9: It's like while they're cheering. Yeah, it's like.

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Speaker 11: On social media, it's on YouTube that you know, women

679
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Speaker 11: are leaking when they lift weights and people are cheering

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Speaker 11: because they're like, oh, this is so amazing, like how

681
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Speaker 11: much she could lift and oh she had a you know,

682
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Speaker 11: emptier bladder to do it. But I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 11: this woman's pelvic floor. If she knows what's happening and

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Speaker 11: she's cool with it, that's fine, But she doesn't know

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Speaker 11: that later in life, I mean, she could have a

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Speaker 11: complete prolapse of her organs and need surgery.

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Speaker 10: How do pelvic floor issues affect mental health and why

688
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Speaker 10: is that connection often overlooked?

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Speaker 11: That's such a great question, Alex, and I think that,

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Speaker 11: you know, what we experience in our bodies absolutely affects

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Speaker 11: how we feel and it affects how we function. So

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Speaker 11: let's take, for example, a mom who is leaking urine

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Speaker 11: and she you know, used to run with her run

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Speaker 11: club and now she can't run because she wets her

695
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Speaker 11: pants or she's afraid she's going to smell like urine,

696
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Speaker 11: or she can only wear black leggings because she's afraid

697
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Speaker 11: that she'll you know, wet her colorful ones. Well, if

698
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Speaker 11: she can't work out, that's going to affect her mental health. Right,

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Speaker 11: Let's take it as another example of somebody who wants

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Speaker 11: to be intimate with their partner and they have pain

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Speaker 11: with sex and they it affects their relationship, or they

702
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Speaker 11: can't even have sex to get pregnant and they want

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Speaker 11: to become a mom and start a family. That's going

704
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Speaker 11: to affect your mental health. You know, there are studies

705
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Speaker 11: that show that women who have urinarran continents are at

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Speaker 11: a higher risk for depression than those who don't leak.

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Speaker 11: And so we really need to these pieces because you know,

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Speaker 11: I love that we recommend movement and exercise, and as

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Speaker 11: a physical therapist, I'm such a huge fan of that

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Speaker 11: for our long term health. But if I look step

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00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 11: back and I say, okay, if you have back pain,

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Speaker 11: if you have abdominal weakness, if you leak, if you

713
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Speaker 11: have prolapse, you can't move and function the way that

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Speaker 11: you want to, and that's going to affect your health.

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Speaker 9: Okay.

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Speaker 10: I have something to share that I've never ever shared before.

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Speaker 10: It's so embarrassing and weird. When I was in seventh grade,

718
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Speaker 10: I don't know what was going on with me, but

719
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Speaker 10: like every single time I would laugh really hard, I

720
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Speaker 10: would pee my pants.

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Speaker 9: But it was like it was in school.

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Speaker 10: It was so embarrassing, and I was like, what is

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Speaker 10: happening to me?

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Speaker 9: I don't understand. We went to a urologist. Of course,

725
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Speaker 9: they put me on detro La, which is for elderly people.

726
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Speaker 10: And they couldn't believe there's like a twelve year old

727
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Speaker 10: girl in here. Why are we putting her on this?

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Speaker 10: But now listening do you say this, I'm like, oh

729
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Speaker 10: my gosh, I wonder if there was just something going

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Speaker 10: on and it was like a weak pelvic floor for

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Speaker 10: some reason. But I don't know, is that Does that

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Speaker 10: sound possible for a twelve or thirteen year old, totally poppo.

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Speaker 10: It was also the time that I was starting my

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Speaker 10: period first. Interesting, So I just wonder if all that

735
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Speaker 10: had to do with it now in hindsight, But they

736
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Speaker 10: put me on that drug, of course, So I don't know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's hard to say without evaluating you.

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Speaker 11: And there are a lot of kids who they come

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Speaker 11: to us as adults, and so if I see an

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Speaker 11: adult woman and they're like, I had childhood constipation and

741
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Speaker 11: I was training, or I was a chronic bedwetter, or

742
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Speaker 11: I used to leak when I was, you know, playing sports.

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Speaker 11: Those are early pelvic floor dysfunction problems that just went unaddressed.

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Speaker 11: And I think it's important for you know, my generation

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Speaker 11: and your generation to understand this part of our body

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Speaker 11: and to know some of the red flags so that

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Speaker 11: our kids don't have problems that go unaddressed. I think

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Speaker 11: it's how we're really going to help change the narrative

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Speaker 11: and the culture between or behind how women access care

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Speaker 11: for the pelvic floor.

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Speaker 1: I guess leads us into the fact that it is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: so it's time for woke Wednesday. Thank you screaming lady,

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Speaker 1: who's just I wonder where she is nowadays. I wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wonder if she's still doing that.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to that.

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Speaker 1: During the commercial break, producer gled let me know that

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Speaker 1: they had caught the guy who was throwing rocks at

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Speaker 1: ice vehicles. They caught him at the border and he's saying,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave a mean comment and I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: you do it. He said, unfortunately, he won't be able

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Speaker 1: to understand it because it's in English, which I thought

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Speaker 1: that was a very hilarious joke that I wanted to

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Speaker 1: tell to all of you good folks. Now it is

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Speaker 1: woke Wednesday, and I didn't know this, but there are

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Speaker 1: apparently woke haircuts out there. This is clip to watch,

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Speaker 1: this gender affirming haircuts. For some reason. My comment to the.

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Speaker 12: Comments, I just okay, wait, what happens when you sit

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Speaker 12: down in that hair cutting salon plate You sit down

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Speaker 12: and say, all right, I want to look like a

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Speaker 12: raccoon that just got.

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Speaker 2: Run over by a lawnmower. It's the error.

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Speaker 1: I uh, can you give me the one that looks

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Speaker 1: like I had a terrible firework accident, that's what I

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Speaker 1: want on my head? Or I pretend that you're a

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Speaker 1: two year old that has scissors and some free time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I just I don't know how that's.

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Speaker 1: Quote unquote gender aperbic right, Like, isn't the whole point

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to like look like something that you're not.

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Speaker 1: So isn't a dude who wants to a woman who

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Speaker 1: wants to look like a he him? Aren't they mostly

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Speaker 1: just get a normal guy haircut? Like?

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Speaker 2: What is the what is the point there?

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Speaker 1: I guess at the very least, we we can now

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Speaker 1: know some of the people to avoid when route in public. Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if you're you know, at your local hardware store.

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Speaker 2: If they're not gonna be at a hardware.

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Speaker 1: Store coffee shop, you know, a person that has the

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Speaker 1: raccoon got run over by a lawnmower haircut, just don't

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Speaker 1: you don't need to interact with that person. It's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be good in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: But you know, before we were out of time.

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Speaker 1: I want to get in this video on this is

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Speaker 1: not a typical woke Wednesday. Look, this guy looks like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're your everyday average you know, maggot guy

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Speaker 1: honestly but apparently fit himself into the Woke Wednesday only

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Speaker 1: for the sole fact that he that he can't spell.

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Speaker 1: And I thought the interaction with this was hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Watch this.

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Speaker 1: Wat Trump, Here's son. Did you mean to spell project

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Speaker 1: like that?

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Speaker 2: It's a J? But you do know how to spell

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Speaker 2: project p R O J E C two. Oh, but

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Speaker 2: that's a G.

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Speaker 1: I put a G there supposed to be a Eightolf

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Speaker 1: Trump that is right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost spell that wrong. How would you say that?

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Speaker 1: Roget?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I need a J. I just need a J.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I see they wouldn't even know. They wouldn't even know.

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Speaker 2: But that's for pointing that out.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was on purpose, maybe something

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Speaker 1: with the G. Maybe I thought the G meant maybe

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Speaker 1: gay or guess this projected twenty five set of Project.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I love these people.

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Speaker 2: They're just so fun to make fun of.

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Speaker 1: First, I mean first things first, dude, Like, if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna make a sign, use spell check like that's like

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Speaker 1: rule number one. And I also like the fact that

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Speaker 1: he admitted, yeah, I almost spelled aid off wrong too.

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Speaker 1: I can totally tell he was gonna go for like

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Speaker 1: a pH like that that that at the ending.

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Speaker 10: But duo.

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Speaker 2: Also, if you make that grievous of a spelling.

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Speaker 1: Error on a sign, don't try and fix it with

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Speaker 1: your singular pen.

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Speaker 2: Turn the dang thing over and rewrite your sign.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not in the business of giving crazy people

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Speaker 1: ideas for their sign completion.

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Speaker 2: But also this is just like common knowledge.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you can't spell, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: seriously I should take you to begin with. And second,

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Speaker 1: if you don't have the wherewithal to just flip the

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Speaker 1: dang thing over, there's two sides.

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Speaker 2: Just rewrite your thing and spell it all right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't have enough self confidence to be able

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Speaker 1: to spell it right then either, that's.

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Speaker 2: What's going on. I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just these people are hilarious and they should be

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Speaker 1: mocked roundly and endlessly. But that is going to do

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Speaker 1: it for us here at turning point todight. I hope

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Speaker 1: you appreciated or had fun on woke Wednesday. Charlie is

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Speaker 1: gonna take us out with another fantastic clip I believe

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Speaker 1: from the SaaS event of the debate with the Israel Palestine.

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Speaker 1: We'll see it tomorrow those same time, same place. Don't

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Speaker 1: want to miss it. If you do. If you do,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I assume you hate America.

874
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Speaker 1: So we'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place.

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Speaker 2: God bless America.

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Speaker 13: Highly recommend people read the book enough already. It is

877
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Speaker 13: the best book that's been written about the Tower Wars

878
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Speaker 13: by Scott Horton. He has all the footnotes in there.

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Speaker 13: You can go through it yourself. It's completely debunked. Those

880
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Speaker 13: roadside bombs were built by Sheites in Iraq. Now I'm

881
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Speaker 13: not saying now some of them did have relationships with Iran,

882
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Speaker 13: but the majority of Iraq is Shite. So yes, we

883
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Speaker 13: invaded the next door country and we got into some

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Speaker 13: fights with the Sahite groups there. But to say that's

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Speaker 13: a reason why we now have to invade Iran or

886
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Speaker 13: we have to bomb them or something, it just doesn't

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Speaker 13: make any sense.

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Speaker 6: I just so one or two really quick, Chris Poullows,

889
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Speaker 6: and then we'll do this. Both sides need to get

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Speaker 6: under good cross examination. Do you think it would be

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Speaker 6: bad if Iran got a nuclear bomb? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I think it's bad, and I think we.

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Speaker 6: Can all agree on that that is a moral.

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Speaker 13: I don't think anybody should be allowed to have nuclear

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Speaker 13: weapons secretly?

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Speaker 6: Right? And so how about that? I will ask Josh

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Speaker 6: about that, because that's a not so subtle dig at Israel.

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Speaker 13: Hell, hold on, are you suggesting that Israel has nuclear weapon?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Actually it probably did.

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Speaker 13: You do.

902
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Speaker 6: I don't know the intelligence. I'm not that of DN I,

903
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Speaker 6: but I mean they probably do. But let me ask you, Dave,

904
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Speaker 6: now another question. What is your Now, let's just say criticism.

905
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Speaker 6: No US troops were killed, it required no use troops

906
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Speaker 6: on the ground, there was no war. It lasted twelve days.

907
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Speaker 6: Fourdeaux was pretty eliminated, and even the Iranian say it so,

908
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Speaker 6: looking at it now twelve days later, what is your

909
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Speaker 6: problem with so? It seems to be a masterclass in

910
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Speaker 6: twelve days in out, no problem, no US troops, We've

911
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Speaker 6: kind of moved on. What what would your problem with

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Speaker 6: that be?

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Speaker 13: You know, I think, and I do think there's something

914
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Speaker 13: really sick and poisoning about this is that our country

915
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Speaker 13: has become so addicted to war that if we launch

916
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Speaker 13: a war and you go, well, hey, it wasn't a

917
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Speaker 13: complete catastrophe.

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Speaker 6: I mean a million people.

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Speaker 13: Didn't die in this one like in Iraq, or hundreds

920
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Speaker 13: of thousands didn't die in this one like in Afghanistan

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Speaker 13: or liby Ar Siria. It's like, okay, look, people died

922
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Speaker 13: in this war. Okay. There were both Iranian civilians and

923
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Speaker 13: Israeli civilians who died in this war, which is a

924
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Speaker 13: terrible thing for them in their families.

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Speaker 6: This was a catastrophe.

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Speaker 13: And my point is that the war never needed to

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Speaker 13: be launched to begin with. But there's no reason why

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Speaker 13: we even have to be enemies with Iran.

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Speaker 6: They opposed.

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Speaker 13: No, this is a third world country in the Middle

931
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Speaker 13: East that does not have nuclear weapons, does not have

932
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Speaker 13: intercontinental ballistic missiles, does not have an air force capable

933
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Speaker 13: of hitting us with anything. This is Israel's problem. We

934
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Speaker 13: don't need to be involved in that. Sorry, we got

935
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Speaker 13: our own issues here. And look again, I'll give Donald

936
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Speaker 13: Trump credit that, Okay, it didn't turn into a catastrophe.

937
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Speaker 13: He took the off ramp when he had the chance.

938
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Speaker 13: But look, a lot of that was out of Donald

939
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Speaker 13: Trump's control the risk of this war. Like a lot

940
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Speaker 13: of people love to like, Josh likes to read my tweets.

941
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Speaker 13: When I was saying this could turn into a catastrophe, because.

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Speaker 6: You were dead wrong, he looks stupid. Gosh, Josh say run, no, no,

943
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Speaker 6: let's deescalate this. No actively.

944
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Speaker 13: What Josh is saying is the lowest IQ argument that

945
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Speaker 13: anyone can make. I'm warning, I was warning that there's

946
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Speaker 13: a risk of a catastrophe, and he's saying you're stupid

947
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Speaker 13: because there wasn't a catastrophe. This is on the level

948
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Speaker 13: of playing Russian Roulette. And if the bullet doesn't go off,

949
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Speaker 13: you go, see, dummy, you were warning that could go bad.

950
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Speaker 13: That doesn't prove anything. Listen for all you guys, you

951
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Speaker 13: talking about how big and bad the Iranians are and

952
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Speaker 13: what a scary threat that they are. What if they

953
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Speaker 13: hadn't given us advanced notice? What if what if a

954
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Speaker 13: ram was actually as suicidal as people like Josh pretend

955
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Speaker 13: they are, And what if their response had killed a

956
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Speaker 13: few hundred Americans in the region, which by all military assessments,

957
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Speaker 13: they are capable of doing. What would Donald Trump.

958
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Speaker 2: Have had to do?

959
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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 2: Charlie, was he what would it.

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Speaker 6: I'm asking I'm the moderator.

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Speaker 13: No, no, no, okay, sorry, Like, come on, Dave, it

963
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Speaker 13: was a rhetorical question.

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Speaker 6: I know, but both sides are getting tough questions.

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Speaker 13: But the point is Donald Trump would have had to

966
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Speaker 13: respond even harder.

967
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Speaker 6: And let's let's give Josh a chance to respond. But

968
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Speaker 6: first it didn't happen. It's a counterfactual you hadn't have

969
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Speaker 6: had when when when people talk over each other, they

970
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Speaker 6: don't like listening to that. So that's why I'm here, Josh.

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Speaker 6: I want you to respond to that. But to Dave's point,

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Speaker 6: do you think Israel has a secret nuclear program? And

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Speaker 6: is that a problem?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think it's not.

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Speaker 14: Particularly disputed that Israel has a nuclear program. We know

977
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Speaker 14: exactly where it is based. This is This is not

978
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Speaker 14: a particularly hidden thing. I mean, it's so well known,

979
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Speaker 14: in fact, Charlie, that I don't know exactly why it's

980
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Speaker 14: officially a secret. Unofficially it's not much of a secret.

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Speaker 14: I'm non ISRAELI I have no idea why the exact

982
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Speaker 14: policy is the way it is. I don't particularly have

983
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Speaker 14: a program with it. As I said, is one of

984
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Speaker 14: the world's worst kept secrets. It kind of just is

985
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Speaker 14: what it is. But more generally speaking, I don't understand

986
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Speaker 14: while we're going so far down this rabbit hole of

987
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 14: would have, could have, should have the people. Look, let's

988
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Speaker 14: say something very simple here. The people who said that

989
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Speaker 14: Donald Trump's involvement in the thirty seven hour operation the

990
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Speaker 14: B two bombers flying from Missouri to Iran and back

991
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Speaker 14: with not a single shot fired at our boys. By

992
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Speaker 14: the way, as I said, that was partially due to

993
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Speaker 14: the fact that the IDF had so neutralized the Iranian

994
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Speaker 14: Air Force and their defenses. There So the fact that

995
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Speaker 14: he was able to accomplish that so amazingly there. We

996
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Speaker 14: should have seen that coming because actually pretty easily foreseeable.

997
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Speaker 14: And the people who did not see that coming are

998
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Speaker 14: the people who have lost credibility to comment frankly.

999
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 6: On these affairs.

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Speaker 14: People who warned about thousands and thousand, thousands of dead

1001
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Speaker 14: American lives, said that Nina and Russia would swoop in

1002
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Speaker 14: and that this would be World War three. Well, you

1003
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 14: know what, God bless you all because you apparently survived

1004
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 14: World War three. It was the shortest World War three

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Speaker 14: of all of our lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Dave, what are you.

1007
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Speaker 6: Dave I restrained? Josh, Josh, keep going again.

1008
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Speaker 14: This is the Donald Trump foreign policy doctrine in action.

1009
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Speaker 14: It is quick, surgical strikes Rogerstone was talking about earlier.

1010
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Speaker 14: It's exactly right. He is not a neocon. Neo conservatism,

1011
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 14: bad isolationism, also nai even stupid. Donald Trump agrees with

1012
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Speaker 14: both those things. The nationalist realist MAGA America First approach

1013
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Speaker 14: to foreign policy is to have strong nationalist allies that

1014
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Speaker 14: are generally capable of securing and patrolling their own regions.

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Speaker 14: In a way, there were downs not merely to the

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Speaker 14: allies national interest, but also to the American national interest.

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Speaker 14: That is exactly what Israel has been doing for forty

1018
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Speaker 14: fifty years, as they have taken out Islamists and Shuria

1019
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Speaker 14: supremacist thugs in Gaza, in Yemen has Ballah I mentioned

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Speaker 14: fuhakor the Hasbologihati who killed two hundred forty one Marines

1021
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Speaker 14: in Beirut Lebanon nineteen eighty three. There's a million samples there.

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Speaker 14: That is the definition of an America First ally, and

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Speaker 14: what has happened in the Twelve Day War is an

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Speaker 14: encapsulation of the America First Trump doctrine that in this case,

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Speaker 14: this tag team between the US and Israel against the

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Speaker 14: mutual therevon inaction.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So I want to not move because it's important,

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Speaker 6: but it's connected. So I think we have on full

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Speaker 6: display a difference of opinion on the Twelve Day War.

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Speaker 6: Now let's go to the next one. It's inferred in

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Speaker 6: both of these points, but you only get to answered

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Speaker 6: as yes and no one of the time. Is Israel

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Speaker 6: an ally of the United States? Yes, of course no. Okay,

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Speaker 6: So now we have disagreement. We're going to now figure

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