1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is Chuck Bryant. 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing sign language. Josh, are you do you do 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: have finger fumblers? Uh? No, but since you brought it up, 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: we have a finger fumbler good blood, bad blood, not 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: to jump the gun that that has nothing to do 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: with this podcast. Can you sign that out for him? Okay, 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Well to anyone who knows sign language, give good blood, 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: bad blood shot. Oh and that also reminds me Chuck. 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: One of our listeners sent in a I guess a 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: um mind melt rightser size, make a clockwise circle on 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: the floor with your right foot while writing the number 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: six on a pad of paper. I tried it. It 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: is really tough. It made me crazy. Yeah. Things like 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: that really get to Chuck. So Chuck, that's a good 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: thing that we had this little bit of banter, because 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: I had like no introduction whatsoever for this one convenient 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: How about this? Have you ever been in Niagara Falls? 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: I have not? Yeah, no, I haven't. And I even lived, 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, in the north or not the north, the Midwest, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: but the northern Midwest. It's not too far from Ohio. No, 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: it's not that far, especially Toledo. So um. But yeah, 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: never made it up there. And actually, the the only 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: time I've ever really seen Niagara Falls, um, was on 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: what Superman two where Clark Kent and Lois Lane Honeymoon. 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, that's the only time you've seen 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: Niagara Falls. Yeah, that's the most I've seen of it. Yeah, 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: it's not the only time. I don't live in a cave, chuck. Um, 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: So I do know a few things about Niagara Falls. 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: You want me to lay it on you, I will 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: tell you this, Chuck. Every year, Niagara Falls attracts about 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: twelve million visitors, right, it's a huge tourist attractionation now, um, 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: and from what else? From research, I've also found that, Um, 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: if you stand there long enough, somebody's going to go 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: in what do you mean, hell on the Niagara River 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: and they're going to go over the falls if you 39 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: stand there long enough. And now we may be talking 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: like months years, who knows, but they do pull about 41 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: twenty bodies out of the bottom of the falls every year. Yeah, 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: sadly it's a it's a suicide destination for for some folks. Yeah, 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: and that was just suicide's right. Yeah, but there are 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: a subgroup of humans running around over the last hundred 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: or so years who actually go over the falls on purpose. 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: That old cliche going over Niagara Falls in a barrel. 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: There's actually a lot of people who have done that, 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: and it's usually a barrel. Yeah, yeah, especially the old 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: timing people. They went over in barrels. All of them, 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, all of them modified. And then you know, 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: as we progressed further into the twentieth century, the barrels 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: became you know, a little better, a little stronger, but yeah, 53 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: pretty much all barrels or balls spheres. Sixteen uh, if 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, sixteen people have done so from two 55 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: thousand three, and as far as I could find, the 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: guy who did it in two thousand three was the 57 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: last one. I couldn't find anybody who's tried it more recently. Right, 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: his is the most amazing. But we should probably save that. 59 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: People don't tell it off a little bit. Yeah, we 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: want to, we want to pay it out slowly. So Chuck, 61 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about the falls a little bit. How how's 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: your geography terrible? You want me to handle it? Well? No, 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean I can. I can give you a few 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: facts here and there, but geography as a whole is 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: not my strong suit. All right, we'll give us a 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: few facts here there. Geographically speaking, if you've never been 67 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: to Niagara Falls, you might think that it's one set 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: of falls, and if you've seen the famous photos, but 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: is actually three sets of falls, which I'm sure you 70 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: know Horseshoe Falls, Yeah, that's the Canadian one, right, Uh, yes, 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: the American falls, that's the American American and the lesser 72 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: known and smaller bridal Veil Falls, right. And I know 73 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: you have some good numbers on these. Well, I can 74 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: tell you that this three fall set up that we 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: see in Niagara Falls today, or people unlike me who 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: go to Niagara Falls see today, Um, it's actually only 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: about five years old. Uh. The the falls actually a 78 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: road these days because they've hit some serious bedrock. They 79 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: erode backward about four to five ft a year. Yeah 80 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: that's a lot. It is a lot, but they've eroded 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: much much more quickly than that over time. And also 82 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I should say that the the the entirety of of 83 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: Niagara Falls is only about fifteen thousand years old. Uh. 84 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: It was the result of the last ice age. At 85 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: the end of the last ice age. Um. But okay, 86 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: so so it's um eroding backward five five ft a 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: year um. And eventually it hit a point and the 88 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: river went down enough, the water flow went lowered enough 89 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: that it hit this island, which split it into two. River. 90 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: The Niagara River was split into two, and actually there's 91 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: a second smaller island, Luna Island, that split it into 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: three and created Bridal Veil Falls. Um. But this island, 93 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: called Goat Island, is actually named after a herd of 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: hapless goats that froze to death on the island. Um. 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: In they belonged to a goat herder named John Steadman, 96 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: and that's why Goat Island is called goat Islands. The 97 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: goats were they no, they were freezing goats. Yeah. So 98 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: that's that's a little bit about Niagara Falls. Oh. I 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: should probably give some stats here because I know everybody 100 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: loves stats. Do you have any stats? And now I'm 101 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: usually statman, but the can I take your your role today? Okay, So, 102 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: Horseshoe Falls is by far the biggest one. UM it's 103 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty seven foot drop. Then it hits 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: the made of the miss pool and actually goes down 105 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: about another hundred and eighty feet. So if you plunged 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: right down to the maid of the miss pool, UM, 107 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: what is that, that's like almost four hundred feet, right, 108 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: it's quite a bit. That's a significant drop. Um, it's 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: a there's a twenty foot brink and the water goes 110 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: over that brink at about six hundred thousand gallons per second. 111 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: It's a lot of water. Yeah, So you know, if 112 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: you went over the falls and survived, you've still got 113 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: this water beating down on you at that kind of rate, 114 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: which you could easily die. And even though um, Horseshoe 115 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: Falls is much bigger and there the the water volume 116 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: is is much greater. That's the one that people go over, 117 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: and they go over Niagara Falls because American Falls. UM 118 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: it puts water out about a hundred and fifty thousand 119 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: gallons a second. But the hundred and seventy six ft 120 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 1: dropped to the bottom about a hundred and six feet 121 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: of that is rock. You dropped seventy ft right on 122 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: this huge tumble of rocks. It's not a good idea 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: to go over that one. It's nice to look at. 124 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: It is very pretty, especially bridal bill falls just falling 125 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: in the background, Superman flying around saving people. So um, 126 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: so okay, there are people who go over the falls, 127 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: Chuck and um, do you know much about Daredevil's I 128 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: think is a pretty fair description to these people. Well, 129 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: I wrote an article on daredevils. Was that your article? 130 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: It was? It was a great article. I actually went 131 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: back and referenced that and I saw that there's a 132 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: picture of the first person and you go over the 133 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: falls in your article, right? Who was a woman? Yeah? 134 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: And Edison Taylor. But backtracking again, we're saving our anecdotes 135 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: of the people who went over So yeah, we're talking 136 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: about Daredevil's right, right, what about that one's study? Which 137 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: one the one with the testosterone? Oh right, yeah, Daredevil's 138 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: have a uh what is it? A higher level of 139 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: testosterone but a lower level of um satisfaction. I looked 140 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: it up. Serotonin. Uh, and it's serotonin one of the 141 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: things that does It's a neurotransmitter and UM it ecks 142 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: the curb impulsiveness. So apparently high levels of testosterone and 143 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: low levels of you know, a neurotransmitter that curbs impulsiveness 144 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: equals daredevil. Right. So that's one explanation. Another explanation is 145 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: found actually in some poor lab mice who had the 146 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: UM the staffman gene bread out of them, the infamous 147 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: staffman gene. Yeah, it was about to be infamous. Um. 148 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: This gene produces a protein right that allows UM nerve 149 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: cells to UH to communicate with one another in the amygdala, 150 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: and the amygdala is known to UM allow us to 151 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: form fear memories. Memories from fear a version like put 152 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: your hand on a hot oven. Your amygdala is going 153 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, we can't do that again. Some 154 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: hot stove is what they generally say. But a hot 155 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: ovens bad too. Okay, hot oven, hot stove, I know 156 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: what you mean. UM. So the so these mice are 157 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: they were actually called in this article rather sensationally UM 158 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: daredevil mice. They they showed no kinds of traditional mice fear. 159 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: They explored open spaces, UM, they really didn't have much 160 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: of an aversion to receiving electric shocks. Basically, these mice 161 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: are leading a pretty hard life. I think up at 162 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: Cornella Rutgers, right, and I know that daredevil's often say 163 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: that they don't fear things like most people do. So 164 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: it's not like they're just overcoming this thing and they 165 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: just have to jump off of out of the plane. 166 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: They really it just doesn't affect them, which I can't 167 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: even begin to conceive of that. I have a little 168 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: bit of that to me. I used to repel and yeah, 169 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but there was a little bit of 170 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: fear involved. But I was one of those that was 171 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: overcoming the fear as opposed to yeah, you're a self 172 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: actualized person. I was all right, well, Chuck, let's meet 173 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: some of the idiots. You've gone over Niagara Falls. Yes, 174 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: And at this point, as our attorneys would be so pleased, 175 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: I will say that you should certainly never ever ever 176 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: try to do this because it's very easy to die 177 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: trying this as a stunt. Conscientious and self Actually, I 178 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: think the fact that sixteen people have gone over, eleven 179 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: of which have survived. In the nine years two people 180 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: went over and survived twice, correct, which but five people died, 181 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, and horribly too. We'll get to some of 182 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: those guys, right, So why don't we start at the beginning. 183 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: The first person to go over Niagara Falls on purpose, 184 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: as you said, was a woman Annie Edson Taylor in 185 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: one right, Yeah, which is pretty funny to think about 186 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: way back then. But yeah, she did this actually on 187 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: purpose as a stunt to try and make money. Yeah, 188 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: fame and fortune is pretty much the dominant reason people 189 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: have for um going over the faults, right, right, And 190 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: she was sixty three at the time, spinster. Yeah, she 191 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: didn't use listerine. She claims she was forty three and 192 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: got away with that, so she must have been in 193 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: pretty decent shape. But she packed a pickle barrel with 194 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: a made it air tight and packed it with pillows 195 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: and and stuffed herself in there and made it over, 196 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: survived and did not make a lot of money off 197 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: of it. She was she was smart enough to um 198 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: compress air to make it buoyant. And um she also 199 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: took her cat with her, Yeah, and they both lived. Yeah. 200 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: I guy took his turtle later on to someone else. 201 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: We'll get to him, sonny boy. Um, But yeah, she 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: went over. She and the cat made it. But yeah, 203 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: the fortune and fame that she saw it was elusive 204 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: she found and penniless, which is just sad. Yeah, I 205 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: don't like that term. Though, no one's penniless. I'm sure 206 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: someone does. But did she really not have a penny? 207 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: Come on, I don't know, I mean openny and not 208 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: teno one? Was? That's a lot? You know, they should 209 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: just say she died poor. Okay, that's just a personal 210 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: piece or broke, yeah, busted, Well her barrel busted. Okay, 211 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: So who's up next? Um, let's see, how about well 212 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: the first man was ten years later, Bobby Leech. Yeah, 213 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: he's kind of a stunt man, right, Yeah, he's a 214 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: circus guy. And uh, July nineteen eleven, he got into 215 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: a steel barrel and uh floated, you know, eighteen minutes 216 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: downstream and went over and survived. He broke both his 217 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: jaw and both of his kneecaps and spent six months 218 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: in the hospital. Not fun, No, But the the horrible 219 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: ironic twist to Mr Leach's life is that fifteen years 220 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: later he slipped on an orange peel, broke his leg, 221 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: it became infected, it was amputated, and two months later 222 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: he was dead of complications ultimately from slipping on an 223 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: orange peel. Right, and if that had been been an appeal, 224 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: it would be a three Stooges episode would have been 225 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: just painful to read, right it was. So he lived 226 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: but perished in a odd accident, which is interesting. You 227 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: know me check, I have um some fairly grizzly tastes, 228 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: all right. Um, So I think the guy with the 229 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: coolest death of the Niagara Falls tragedies was Charles Stevens. 230 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: He went over in Actually haven't heard this guy, so 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: you haven't laid on you. Um. He went over in 232 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: an oak barrel, all right. Uh. And it wasn't modified 233 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: or reinforced in any way, but he modified the interior. 234 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: He had an anvil at the bottom serves ballast so 235 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: it would stay upright. Um. And he had his feet 236 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: strapped to the anvil for some reason. Um. And uh, 237 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: he had arm straps inside the barrel, so he was 238 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: his arms were in there he he went over. Um. 239 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: Apparently when he hit the bottom, the anvil broke through 240 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: the bottom of the barrel and dragged him down with it. 241 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: And all they ever found of Mr Stevens was his 242 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: arm still in the arm strap inside. He was left 243 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: of the oak barrel. I kid, do not planning. Yeah, 244 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: that's yeah, it was. It actually was his his whole 245 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: his whole stunt was racked with poor planning other people 246 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: who had already gone over, um, and who who lived 247 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: around the river. And we're kind of old sea dogs. Um, 248 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: we're begging the guy to um, you know, test it out, 249 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: give it a try, reinforce it. Um, just do take 250 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: all these extra precautinus. He just wouldn't do it. So 251 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: as soon as you said he had an anvil in 252 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: the bottom, I kind of foresaw that coming, Yeah, Josh. 253 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: Another one that I thought was really sad um that 254 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: parish was George Status in nineteen thirty. He is what 255 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Peter Tosh would call him mystic man. Yes, he was 256 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: chef in New York. He went over with his pet turtle. 257 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Sunny Boys talked about a hundred year old turtle named 258 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: sunny Boy, supposedly, and Um, this one's really sad because 259 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: he actually went over, perhaps successfully, and was stuck behind 260 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: the curtain of water and eighteen hours and no one 261 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: could get to him. And they don't know for sure 262 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: whether he survived the fall. But if he did, that 263 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: means he spent um, you know, three to eight hours 264 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: is all the air he had and he actually perhaps 265 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: suffocated suffocated. What I took from it was that they 266 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: examined him and found that yeah, he he most likely 267 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: had suffocated, but the turtle made it. Yeah, sunny Boy 268 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: made it. And the whole reason Mr Stapa Kiss took 269 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: Sonny boy Um was so that if he died, Sunny 270 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: Boy could tell the tale. And Sunny Boy never really 271 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: said anything talking turtle. I think that says at all 272 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: mystic man. Do you want me to do another one? Okay? 273 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: I love this guy, Nathan Boya. He's the first African 274 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: American to go over, and he was also he kind 275 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: of bucked the trend of fame and fortune. Uh. The 276 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: reason Mr Boya went over was because it was something 277 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: he just had to do. He felt he had to do. Really, 278 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: that's what he said. Yeah. So he goes over in 279 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one, and this guy was pretty sharp. He 280 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: took an oxygen tank with him filled with thirty hour 281 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: is of air. Um. I believe he had a rebreather 282 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: and he went over in a h I think it 283 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: was a metal ball. He dubbed the Plunge of Sphere. Right, 284 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: he did have a rebreather which removes carbon dioxide. Yeah, 285 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: it's like scuba exactly. Yeah. So Um, he went over 286 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: in the falls. He went over the falls. Uh he Um. 287 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: He was successful. I think he got a little banged up, 288 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: but not not too much. And he was also the 289 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: first person to be fined for breaking a law that 290 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: was enacted um a couple of years earlier after another 291 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: guy died. Um that it's that makes it that made 292 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: it illegal to go over Niagara Falls on purpose. So 293 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: he paid a hundred bucks, which in two thousand eight 294 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: dollars I looked up with seven five and today's dollars. Yes, 295 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: as a find. But he was the first one to 296 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: ever be fined for doing it, because I believe the 297 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: find today is ten grand or more, yeah or more. Yeah. 298 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: And it's performing a stunt without a license. Is that 299 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: what it is? Yeah? And they've never given a license 300 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: to anybody to do it, which it just seems like 301 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: a bad idea because that's a lawsuit right there. Um. 302 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: Do you want to skip ahead to the most recent 303 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: and most amazing or did you have another one? You? Well, 304 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: we can go back. Where do we have to do 305 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: it chronologically? No, we don't. I want to talk about 306 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: the most recent two thousand three. Well, let's do it, 307 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: because this guy went over without anything, and he's the 308 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: only person known to go in on purpose without any 309 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of flotation, no barrel, no nothing, just close on 310 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: his back. And there's been speculation over the years whether 311 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: or not he was suicidal or um wanted fame and fortune. 312 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: He apparently said that he was in fact depressed for years, 313 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: and his friends came out later and said, yeah, he 314 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: talked about trying to commit suicide, and so when he 315 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: went to Nagre, he literally stood on the other side 316 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: of the rail and was contemplating it, and a woman 317 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: behind him, who he did not know, sarcastically said, so, 318 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Jump? And he said, yes, ma'am, 319 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: I think I will. And he did so, and he 320 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: jumped in, and just a few moments later plunged over 321 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: a horseshoe falls and said that it felt like I 322 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: was being swallowed by a living organism. I was flying 323 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: straight down at a tremendous speed, and the force was 324 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: so great I thought it would rip my head off. 325 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: Then it became dark, my ears popped, and I was 326 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: trapped under forty ft of water. Was beating the living 327 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: heck out of me. No, he didn't, and I couldn't 328 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: even get to the surface, and I remember thinking, well, Niagara, 329 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: I think you've beaten me. And he said, then he 330 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: was pushed forward and felt the sun on his face. 331 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: What's the guy's name, Kirk Jones? Cool? So Kirk survived. 332 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: He told a story to Outside magazine among others, and 333 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: um apparently said it filled them with the will to live. 334 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: So I would imagine, so good for him, kind of 335 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: like surviving a plane crash. Right, yeah, exactly, except not 336 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: quite well yeah, maybe the same, you know, part of 337 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: the brain, Yeah, I think so. So, okay, can we 338 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: go back one because there was one other one favorite mentioned? Um, okay, 339 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: so can we go back? And can I do one 340 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: more venture back in time? Sure, we'll go back to 341 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: heady days at the end of the Reagan era, my 342 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: junior year in high school when still wow, really, I 343 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: know you're always marveled at my like five years older 344 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: than you get over. Okay, alright, sorry, um so. So 345 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: it was the end of the Reagan era, but Nancy 346 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: Reagan's influence was still very clearly um imprinted upon the 347 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: National psyche. In particular, two guys named Peter Debon Hardi 348 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Petkevich, right, and they decided that they were 349 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: going to go over the falls in a barrel, and 350 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: um they did, and I think a ten ft long 351 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: metal barrel that was completely enclosed. And the reason that 352 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: they wanted to do this was because they wanted to 353 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: make a statement against drugs. And if you look at 354 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: their barrel, there's a picture of it in the article, 355 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: it says drugs kill, right, So what they're what they're 356 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: saying clearly is that it's your it's smarter to go 357 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: over Niagara Falls in a barrel than it is to 358 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: do rugs. The problem is is that's just wholly untrue, 359 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: which is why there's a two million illicit drug users 360 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: worldwide and only sixteen people who've ever gone over the 361 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: ragor falls on purpose and were surely endorsing anything. But yeah, 362 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: going over the falls in a barrel is virtual suicide. 363 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: It is that kind of struck me. That reminded me. 364 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: Actually there was the other guy that was trying to 365 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: raise awareness for the homeless. Yeah, what was that. Yeah, 366 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: he went over in a jet ski and the plan 367 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: was to leap off the jet ski and his he 368 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: had a rocket parachute that was going to open. But 369 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: there was some kind of malfunction and he died. I'd 370 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: say the worst of all was Jesse Sharpe. He didn't 371 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: even have a parachute, and he didn't wear a helmet, 372 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: and he didn't wear a life preserver, and he went 373 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: over in a kayak on purpose because he wanted a 374 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: job in the stunt industry. So I feel very badly 375 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: for Jesse's family. Yeah he perished, Oh yeah as well. Yeah. 376 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: I think they found his kayak and that was it, right, 377 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: So I think the lesson the takeaway, Josh is uh, daredevil, 378 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: legitimate business. Uh, going over the falls in a barrel 379 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: not a good idea? No, And and stay off drugs kids, 380 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: So chuck Audible dot com time, Yeah, our sponsors, and 381 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: then maybe a little listener mail. Can we can go 382 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: to that very special listener mail I'm looking forward to 383 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: And that means it's time for listener mail, not only 384 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: listener mail, Josh, this is hi Ku theater, you know, 385 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: Can we get a special Hiku theater sound effect? Wellbviously, 386 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: I bet it's in there by the time we listen 387 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: to this. I have seven high kus and they're short 388 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: because they're high cous and we get them from our listeners. 389 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're in the form of corrections. Sometimes they're just 390 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: pool hikus. Okay. Uh. This one was related to the 391 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: Airprane Airprane airplane crash from Sarah and Loan, which I liked. Hello, 392 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: that's my seat? Sorry? Can I squeeze by you? Wow? 393 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: This is awkward? Okay? Which is do you show them 394 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: the front of your body or the rear of your body? Again? 395 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: It comes back to fight club a lot. That's right, Uh, 396 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: workplace boredom. I will follow this under that one finger 397 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: on keyboard carpal tunnel sets in slow. My cubicle life 398 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: is from a boardworker Brianna j O'Sullivan. It's depressing Brianna 399 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: Maggie Savage of Dover, New Hampshire. Sin this one about 400 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: the hypoallergenic cats episode Cats and dogs are swell to 401 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: darn their fur an odd cell, but hey, what the heck? 402 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: That's in light. Our friend Mary Anne, teaching English and 403 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: Thailand says this village and Thailand nothing but rice and noodles. 404 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: I crave cheddar cheese. Yeah, I've read that one too. 405 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: Have you checked out her blog? It's pretty good. It 406 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: is very good. Uh. Aaron when sent this his podcast 407 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: routine control all delete, fresh cup of coffee in hand. 408 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: Together we start great maybe flo that's very hopeful. This 409 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: is my favorite. This is from a sixteen year old 410 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Timothy Sinclair of Albany, California. Hikus can be strange and 411 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: in unexpectedly refrigerator. That is my favorite. We have a winner, 412 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: can we get what? What's the what's the hiku writer's name? 413 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 1: The last one that was Timothy Sinclair? And I think 414 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: he deserves a T shirt. I agreed, Timothy. Send us 415 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: your address and T shirt size to our email. Please. 416 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: But that's not all. Oh keep him coming, do not? 417 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: I only have one more. And this was actually sent 418 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: today by Eric Jones of Maryland. And Eric just hiked 419 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: the entirety of the Appalachian Trail and we actually conversed 420 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: a bit today, uh via email, sent pictures. I'm a 421 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: hiker myself, so we kind of wrapped back and forth 422 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: about his experience, and he seems like a very cool guy. 423 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: So he wrote us a little hiku story about hiking 424 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: the eight team. So here it is two thousand and eight. 425 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: I took a long walk on the Appalachian Trail, started 426 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: in Georgia. Seven months later finished on Mountain. Thank you, 427 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: came home, bought iPhone, found you guys, then downloaded every 428 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: show since March played sequentially in two weeks. I learned 429 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: so much and I'm still learning. Thank you for your 430 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: time and for your excellent work mentioned me on air. 431 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: I like the high coups that end with the question 432 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: marks or refrigerator. That's pretty good. That's the best one, Timothy. 433 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: Did you find out? Did you find out if Eric 434 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: hiked naked? As I hear is a trend to view 435 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: on the a t Judging from the photos he sent, 436 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: he did not, but they were really gorgeous pictures. You 437 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: should look. Well. Thanks you hate nature, so thanks to 438 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: It's not the hate nature is kind of a slug, right, um, 439 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: So thank you to everybody who sent us high kus 440 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: or any kind of mail. 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