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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. It's a Boodist

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Speaker 1: episode of the Lounge today. We don't have Garrett with us.

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Speaker 1: He's on vacation today. Of course, he goes on vacation

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Speaker 1: right after the Ravens announced some very big news with

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Speaker 1: the hiring of defensive coordinator Mike mcdonwald. That's a Garrett

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Speaker 1: move right there, to just go on VK right after that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we got we got my guy lift on. Clifton Brown

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Speaker 1: joining me today to break down, Uh, the addition of

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald really a reunion with Mike McDonald as Ravens

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Thanks for joining me, Cliff, Thanks for Andy.

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Speaker 1: Ryan always a pleasant Yeah, yeah, buddy. So I guess,

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Speaker 1: first of all, just what was kind of your your

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Speaker 1: immediate reaction when the news became official? Excitement? Really, I

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Speaker 1: think Mike, it's definitely a very impressive guy, impressed everyone

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Speaker 1: during his first go around with the race. Even's really bright,

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Speaker 1: really a lot of energy, and uh, it certainly wasn't

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Speaker 1: surprising that, you know, John reached out for him to

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Speaker 1: come back. I just think that he's a he's a

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Speaker 1: He was groomed here in Baltimore. Coming back here is

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Speaker 1: not going to be a transition for him at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he he'll feel right at home, and I

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Speaker 1: think the year that he had in Michigan being a

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Speaker 1: excited about it. As soon as, uh, it became clear

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Speaker 1: might be the direction that they went. Yeah, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think my first reaction was I'm getting old. Mike McDonald.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald is younger than I am now, so if

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Speaker 1: I'm just when I got used to being older than

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Speaker 1: all the players, right, sometimes there's be a few guys

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Speaker 1: that be a little older than me. I'm older than

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Speaker 1: almost I think almost all, maybe all Sam cooked. That's

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Speaker 1: the only question mark here. Uh one thing. I used

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Speaker 1: older than the coaches. It's never it's never gonna stop.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's the trend. I'm going go yeah, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's interesting even thinking

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Speaker 1: back to I want to say, or nineteen John Harbard

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Speaker 1: talked about Mike McDonald two reporters and said, this guy's

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Speaker 1: this guy's got a future as a defensive coordinator, which

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Speaker 1: then hearing him say that, it was like wow, okay, Like,

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Speaker 1: here's a really young guy as your inside linebackers coach,

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Speaker 1: and you're talking about how he's like one of the

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Speaker 1: you know, that was like some hard, some high praise.

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Speaker 1: They kind of caught me off guard back then, but

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Speaker 1: it's clear that John really help him in high regard.

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Speaker 1: And I think around the league people did. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a highly educated guy who now you know,

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Speaker 1: he almost got like an apprenticeship as a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: at Michigan. You know, John recommended that Jim hire him,

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Speaker 1: and I think in a way could have been thinking,

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Speaker 1: all right, you know, maybe if Mike is my future

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Speaker 1: go get him some play following experience. Let's get him experience,

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Speaker 1: you know, building out a game plan being a defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator kind of a training ground move. You know, maybe

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Speaker 1: in the back of his mind somewhere, I don't think

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Speaker 1: It was like a calculator move from the start, but

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Speaker 1: have been a factor saying, maybe this guy ends up

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Speaker 1: coming back one day, you know, and and this is

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Speaker 1: a great way we were we have wink um, but

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Speaker 1: this is a great way from Mike to get more

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Speaker 1: valuable experience in Michigan. And then Mike just blew it up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just did better than I think anyone

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Speaker 1: lands somewhere else. Well, yeah, no question, you have to

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Speaker 1: to make a move like this when the guys available,

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Speaker 1: you can't wait. I mean, Mike McDonald may end up

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Speaker 1: So he's a talent. There are a lot of coaches

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Speaker 1: collaborative effort. It's it's not just gonna be him with

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Speaker 1: think again that it is gonna be really helpful for

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Speaker 1: he's already used to. Yeah. Absolutely, but also be interesting

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Speaker 1: know that he had at Michigan. Does he want to

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Speaker 1: bring any of those guys to multip more with him?

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Speaker 1: You know some of the obviously they had some breakout players.

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson is going to be a top five three

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Speaker 1: one like top pick in this year's draft. Uh, David

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Speaker 1: top pick in this year's draft. Is another edge player

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Speaker 1: from Michigan. You know, do they look to bring in

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Speaker 1: a coach that worked with those guys? Um? You know

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Speaker 1: what does that mean for coaches? I think Drew Wilkins

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Speaker 1: be It'll just be interesting to see how this shakes

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Speaker 1: out with the rest of his defensive snap staff. Sunday

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Speaker 1: dot com for details. But uh yeah, I think Mike

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Speaker 1: another thing that I really like about him, that I

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Speaker 1: into at Michigan. Right, I mean, Jim Harball had a

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Speaker 1: they needed to diversify that attack a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald did that. He you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: That's who John Harball is. But I think having some

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Speaker 1: And you know, a good story to a guy you know,

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Speaker 1: And I think he's got a lot of a bright

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Speaker 1: But you know, every time I've talked to Mike, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say he's got a little he's got some muscle

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Speaker 1: gonna like Mike, uh and they're gonna like the results too,

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Speaker 1: so exciting stuff. Anyway, We'll be back with you next week.

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Speaker 1: The other big news is the Ravens. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a lot of press conferences next week. John Harbaugh coming

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Speaker 1: on Monday, Mike McDonald on Wednesday, and Eric da Costa

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Speaker 1: on Friday. It's gonna be a busy week for me.

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Speaker 1: In you, Cliff, where are we gonna be doing a

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Speaker 1: lot of writing Buddy's fuck Up. Have a good weekend,

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Speaker 1: Cliff Funny, appreciate that. I'm looking forward to it. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's exciting, stuffy yeah. Anyway, thanks for listening. As always,

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Speaker 1: you can reach us at the Lounge at Ravens dot

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Speaker 1: NFL dot net and we'll be back with you next week.