1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast PODCA All right, here. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: We go, ready in the court. Ten seconds remaining. 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: So just go show up to the basket. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: Under the basket. It's the true for the wind God 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: a miracle. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: I's water hit that one from. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: The parking lot. 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 4: draftings On My Calbreys and I have to tell you 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 4: I am thrilled about this new Wednesday show. We're talking 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 4: college hoops the rest of the way, all the way 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 4: through the Final Four. You're gonna get us every single Wednesday. 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 4: Who's us? You got me, Mike Calbreys, I'm hosting the show. 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 4: My co host that I'm thrilled to be joined up 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 4: with again is duck our Man josh Nn. He's gonna 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: hit us with all those deep cuts, all those over 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: unders from low major college basketball. And we have a 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 4: brand new addition to the Action Network family here and 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 4: the Big Bets on Campus Podcast, and that's Christian Oh. 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: Jack Gan. Really excited to have him on as well. 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: We're going to run through what brought us together, why 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: we're here, But really, at the end of the day, 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: you're listening because you want best bets you want our 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 4: hot takes. Also, by the next episode, we're gonna have 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 4: some futures conversations as well, adding to that portfolio as 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: the season rolls on. Before we hop in, though, as 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 4: I mentioned, we're gonna go around the horn introduce ourselves 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 4: a bit to the audience. We're gonna start with you, Duck, 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 4: my G five co pilot from football season. Now we're 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: attached to the hip again for at least the next 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: two two and a half months of college hoops. Talk 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: to me about what you brought you to college basketball. 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: We know your acumen everything you do on the grid 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: iron in terms of FCS football G five football, but 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: talk us through college hoops. 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, college hoops is one of my favorite sports to 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: watch and bet you get a long season. There's a 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: lot of different elements in stages too the season. I've 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: personally been betting on college basketball since two thousand and nine, 40 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: spent a lot of time posting my plays into the 41 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: forums before I started an action network a couple of 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: years back. Well, I'm going to take a real analytical, 43 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: stats driven based approach to my wagering. About ninety five 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: percent of my plays, as you had alluded, to are 45 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: going to be totals. I'm going to be looking for 46 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: things like pace discrepancies, Teams that are able to play 47 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: solid defense without following, or teams that are unable to 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: do that, Teams that can alter shots and protect the rim, 49 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: neutral site unders, teams that will or will not shoot 50 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: the three. So we're going to look at a lot 51 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 3: of total variants and a lot of that'll be metric driven. 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: But I love the variants and the volatility of college hoops. 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: There can be some wild swings. 54 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: Good and bad. 55 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 3: But it's going to be real fun season with both 56 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: of you guys here. I'm excited, Christian to have you 57 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: on the program with us, and we are going to 58 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: work like hell to put out some good products and 59 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: get everybody to the window. 60 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: Whenever you talk tempo, Duck, I always think of JK. 61 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: Simmons and whiplash. Not quite my temple, Christian. We went 62 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 4: down to Tobacco Road to pluck you from Wake Forest. 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: That's where your basketball journey began. Fill us in on 64 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: the rest. 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 5: Grew up in Rhode Island outside Providence, so grew up 66 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 5: going to Vidence games, Yukon games. Always loved the tournament 67 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 5: and I have vivid memories of in middle school. I 68 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 5: love to just make a prediction and be right, and 69 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 5: the first one that I had was I was loud 70 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 5: at the lunch table Mercer is gonna beat Duke. 71 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I just hated Duke and. 72 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 5: Read a couple of things that Mercer had, like won 73 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 5: some overtime games and play well against power five comps. 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: But I'm just so loud, Mercer's gonna be Duke, and 75 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: they did. 76 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: The year after. 77 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: I followed it up with Georgia State and Baylor. 78 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 5: So I just started loving, you know, just tracking mid 79 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 5: major basketball and trying to know as much as I 80 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 5: could about teams. Another key memory was twenty sixteen March Madness. 81 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 5: Florida State was a nine seed and they beat Xavier 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: in the second round and then they beat Gonzaga in 83 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: the Sweet sixteen. I remember watching them in those games 84 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: and I'm like, this team is so good, like eleven guys, 85 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 5: you know, Terrence Mans on that team, Cavin Jelly, and 86 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 5: I just had never watched Florida State play like they 87 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 5: were just a you know, borderline kind of outside the 88 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 5: top twenty five team. 89 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: And I kind of made up my mission after that. 90 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: I need to get eyes on every team that could 91 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 5: make a run, because I don't want that to happen again, 92 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: where I'm watching a team in the tournament. 93 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: And I go, I wish, I wish I knew how 94 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: good they were. 95 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: So I just kind of became a sickle after that, 96 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: and then covering Wake Forest for all four years for 97 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: the school newspaper when I was a student there, got 98 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 5: to just see AC basketball all the time. I traveled 99 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 5: to some other sites, got to talk to coaches after 100 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 5: the game, So that just kind of leveled me up 101 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: even more. 102 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: I live in Chicago now, so after college. 103 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 5: Branched out to bedding because I wanted to grow my 104 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 5: following and talk about the sport, and just being able 105 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 5: to put out analysis on my plays was my way 106 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 5: to do that and got hot a few times in 107 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 5: the rest of this kind of history. 108 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: So glad to be here. 109 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: And you know, favorite sport, love to watch it, love 110 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: everything about it. 111 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: Let's see those back to back. Mercer, what was the 112 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: celebration for the Mercer Kid with thirteen? Just an incredible performance. 113 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: And then on the sideline as well for the Georgia 114 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: State play, was it Hunter with the rolling chair with 115 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: absolutely what he tear is like Achilles or something beforehand 116 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: that was absolutely phenomenal. And I just say too, the 117 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: college basketball world, I think it is putting us together 118 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: for a reason. Skip Prosser wake Forest Legend also took 119 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: my loyal Greyhounds to the NCAA Tournament in the nineties 120 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: as well, so we have that overlap for the audience 121 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: that doesn't know me. Let's see where did I start 122 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 4: here when it comes to college hoops. I was the 123 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 4: in house bracketologist for The Score for a handful of years, 124 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: which really got me into the nitty gritty of lower 125 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: level college basketball, you know, looking at all the advanced stats, 126 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: watching a lot of low major basketball. I've also and 127 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: this is like, this is funny because if you say, oh, 128 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: why my qualified to talk about the NFL, I play NFL 129 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: Fantasy Wooh, congrats. I've run a college fantasy basketball league 130 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: for eighteen years that features all three hundred and sixty 131 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: five Division one teams, So there is no one that 132 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: slips through the net in terms of statistical monsters. So 133 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: I can really tell you just about every single league 134 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: in all of college hoops, who are the top five players. 135 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: Who are the guys to keep an eye on and 136 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: that can be really helpful in terms of doing your 137 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: homework before locking in at during non conference season. You 138 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: saw it with like Northern Colorado the other night against 139 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: Texas Tech. I was going to be on them. If 140 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: Denker played, he ends up sitting. You know, he has 141 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 4: that injury. They're not you know, a league that where 142 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: they have to have injury reports. They end up covering anyway. 143 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: But the point being is that you need to know 144 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: who the instrumental players are at that level because the 145 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: drop off from a top scorer and a big sky 146 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 4: to the next guy off the bench is monumental, where 147 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: sometimes at the high major level a single player can 148 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: be overblown in terms of line movement. Outside of that, 149 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 4: I've been you know, with action since twenty nineteen. I 150 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 4: came in through the same door, which was low major 151 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: basketball covering that so that still remains kind of my 152 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: sweet spot. And I think what's interesting too is that 153 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: with some of these smaller leagues, you get continuity and coaching, 154 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: and you get a real feel for the brand of 155 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: basketball teams want to play like. You will get a 156 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: conference like the ACC that can have more revolving chairs 157 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: and musical chairs at the head coaching spot compared to 158 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: like the A ten. When I look at the A ten, 159 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: you g got like Chris Mooney at Richmond over twenty years, 160 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: Mark Schmidt coming up in twenty years at Saint. 161 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: Bonav Engin, Anthony Grant, even Davidson. 162 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,559 Speaker 4: Where they have the McKillop handoff from father to son 163 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: that goes all the way back to nineteen eighty nine. 164 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: You have a feel for how these teams are going 165 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: to play, and I think that really gives you an 166 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: advantage to not necessarily have that recency bias. How did 167 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: the team just play in the previous game. You got 168 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: to feel for what to expect over the course of 169 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: a season. All right, it's time to get into some 170 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: actual hoops. You now know what brings us all together. 171 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: And the beauty of this is that we're going to 172 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: have some talking points. We're going to be able to 173 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: get some rants. We're going to look at futures, not 174 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: just the best bets, not just our best plays. So 175 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: we're going to start here first with you, Duck in 176 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: terms of a trend, a team, a player, a topic 177 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 4: that really has you interested or you want to put 178 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: a spotlight on it for our audience. Before we get 179 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: into our best bets. 180 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've got two points to make. I'll be 181 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: quick on both. 182 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: But speaking of the kind of the mid major theme, 183 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: the eight tens are really good league this year. 184 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: You look up and down this conference. 185 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: You have the consistency in the coaching regimes as you 186 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: had mentioned, but you've got a collection of excellent teams. 187 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: George and Richmond, Saint Louis, Saint Bonnie, Dayton, and I 188 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: haven't even mentioned the usual suspects yet, Virginia Commonwealth and 189 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: Rhode Island. This could be a really fun league this 190 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: year as the A ten kind of develops through their 191 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: conference slate, maybe a two bid league perhaps, and then 192 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: another super under the radar team. I think Tulsa could 193 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: be really good this year. They were a complete meltdown 194 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: at Kansas State away from being undefeated. They were up 195 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: five forty eight seconds left lost. They have wins over 196 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: Rhode Island, Northern Iowa, are really under the radar New 197 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: Mexico State bunch and the roster. I really like what 198 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: they did with the roster this year. Tylan Riley from 199 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: cal Baptist came over, David Green from Rhode Island, Miles 200 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: Barnstable from Saint Thomas major contributors for Tulsa and just 201 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: a really feisty group. Just a group that can get 202 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: to the foul line, and they make. 203 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: Their free throws, which is important. 204 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: They shoot the three well, they don't allow second chance 205 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: points on the defensive end. We saw Conkle do this 206 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: at Louisiana Tech. He couldn't quite get over the hump 207 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: with building up the Louisiana Tech roster the way he 208 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: wanted to construct it. But Tulsa could end up being 209 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: one of those teams we're talking about in March that 210 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: maybe makes a little noise in the NCAA tournament. Just 211 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: a really tough out and a team that I think 212 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: is going to pile up the wins as the season continues. 213 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: When you look at a big ticket or you know, 214 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: an overarching theme in college hoops, tempo is also really 215 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: important to you and your breakdown, Christian. I mean, obviously 216 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: Duck's going to talk about it from a totals perspective 217 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: the entire way, but how does that, you know, fold 218 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 4: into your nightly capping. 219 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, tempo is. 220 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 5: A really interesting thing because it's where there can be 221 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 5: an inefficiency in the market in the sense of I'll 222 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 5: use Vanderbilt same areas as an example. 223 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: They play in the. 224 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 5: Tournament last year, fifty six to fifty four is your final. 225 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 5: Because sam Arey's controlled the tempo. Vanderbilt couldn't generate easy shots, 226 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 5: they couldn't force turnovers, they couldn't get anything easy. 227 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: This year when they play in the Battle for Atlantis, I. 228 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 5: Think was the tournament, ninety six to seventy one, Vanderbilt 229 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 5: and they're all up in Saint Mary's guards. 230 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: Saint Mary's can't control. 231 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: The glass like they did the year before, and Vanday's 232 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: guards are pressuring it and they're able to generate shots 233 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 5: early on the shot clock and dictate that style. So 234 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: that line was three and a half for Vanderbilt and Vanderbilt. 235 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 5: People are catching on now, but that was something that 236 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 5: I felt like we had seen that matchup before, We'd 237 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 5: seen how Vanderbilt got better and how Saint Mary's didn't, 238 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 5: and I was more confident that Vanderbilt will be able 239 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 5: to set that tempo. And on the other side, when 240 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 5: it's two teams with similar tempos, right, how far extremes 241 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 5: can we go? Like Alabama USF will have been played 242 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 5: after this podcast comes out, but you've got Nato. It's 243 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 5: against Brian Hodgson, a coach who used to be under 244 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 5: his staff at Buffalo and Alabama. And the total for 245 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 5: this game is that like one to eighty or something insane. 246 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 5: So with these two teams playing in this comfortable environment, 247 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 5: does Alabama is the talent gap just just on display 248 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 5: in Alabama completely runs away? Or is South Florida comfortable, 249 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 5: you know, with two offenses just kind of playing five 250 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 5: out and rocking out and it kind of out and 251 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 5: there's value on the points with the Bulls. So I 252 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 5: think tempo is a really interesting thing of where can 253 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 5: there be a discrepancy in the market based on what 254 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 5: the metrics are factory in versus actually on the court. 255 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 5: Who can really emphasize, you know, the way they want 256 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: to play. The other thing that you mentioned is kind 257 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 5: of how teams travel. 258 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: We talk about it in college football. If you can 259 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 4: run the ball, control tempo, and then play good defense, 260 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: that travels whether you're playing neutral site or a true 261 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 4: away game. When it comes to college hoops, rebounding in bigs, 262 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: particularly in the spread out era, positionless era of basketball, 263 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: if you can dominate there and you can get extra 264 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: possessions offensive boards, and also keep opponents off the offensive glass. 265 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: That can be very valuable in away game situations, particularly 266 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: when you're catching points. 267 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: Right When I think about a bet, sometimes it's if 268 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 5: this game played one hundred times. You know, if I 269 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: think my cap they'd win sixty or seventy times. I'm 270 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 5: okay with the result. I'm okay what happens with the 271 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 5: three point variants in the free throw variance. But when 272 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: you look at some of these teams thrown out these 273 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 5: two big lineups even three big lineups, team like Florida 274 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 5: with Tommy how the three or Yaxel at the three 275 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 5: for Michigan, it's like, what can you really do? 276 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: Like you just look at the. 277 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 5: Personnel and it's Michigan is going to control the class 278 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 5: in this game, and I think that means they're going 279 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 5: to travel well to a lot of these teams that 280 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 5: can really just control the glass and just be bullies, 281 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: like Tennessee against Louisville last night, another example of that 282 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 5: just physically overwhelming it. 283 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: And of course, the whistle in college basketball. 284 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 5: Varies in leagues and as the season goes along, but 285 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 5: physical dominance is something that is you know there's less 286 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 5: variance to that because the end of the day, if 287 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 5: you're generating way better shots, you're going to win the game. 288 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 5: So I try to think about that, but but don't 289 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 5: want to rely on that too much and think, you know, 290 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 5: watch Alabama go beat Saint John's right in a game 291 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 5: where on paper, Alabama shouldn't be able to say John 292 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 5: should get twenty five offensive rebounds in that game, but 293 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 5: they didn't. So don't want to take shortcuts. But it's 294 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: definitely an angle that I'm looking to to focus in on. 295 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to be duck to this point, and it's 296 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: the way that rosters are constructed right now with the 297 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: transfer portal. It's something that I keep an eye on. 298 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: You look at a lot of these top teams in 299 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: terms of their talent, both you know, professional players coming 300 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: in from Europe who have you know, the freshman status, 301 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: but really they've been playing at a high level for years. 302 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: You have the blue chip kids who are just more 303 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: prepared than they were twenty five years ago. In a 304 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: lot of ways, they're resembling AAU super teams. So they're 305 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 4: just thrown together and you see the chemistry come together 306 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 4: throughout the season and why I bring that up is 307 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: I think it's important to not solidify your opinions, particularly 308 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: on Power four teams earlier in the year, because that 309 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: can drastically change throughout the season. You can see teams 310 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: have January swoons. You've seen it with Yukon. You know 311 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: when they went back to back national championships, they kind 312 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 4: of took their foot off the accelerator in January a 313 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: little bit. Circle the Wagons got it together, played better 314 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: team basketball, and just got better and better all the 315 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: way to a national championship. So I think it's important 316 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 4: to not necessarily make your mind up on a team 317 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: the rest of the way based on how they're playing 318 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 4: in December or January, and then when it comes to 319 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: a Final four ceiling, I look at the continuity rankings 320 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: from Kenpom. You'll get last year's Final four. I realized 321 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: that it was all one seeds, but from a conninuity standpoint, 322 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: Houston was a Auburn was fortieth, Florida was forty second. 323 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: Now Duke was the outlier there because they had so 324 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: many freshmen, but two hundred and sixty eighth in the country. 325 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 4: For the most part, though, that continuity really helped them 326 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 4: in those grittier moments where they needed to come back. 327 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: Florida came back, it seemed like in every single game 328 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: during their championship run. Now this year, we have four 329 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: Ken Palm Top ten teams already with loads of continuity 330 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: Produce seventh, Yukon seventeenth, Iowa State twenty third, Houston forty first. 331 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: And when I think about putting together in my futures portfolio, 332 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: risk versus award, thinking about it in terms of like 333 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: investing high rate return, stable returns versus you know, some 334 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: of those wilder shots. I want to grab one of 335 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: those four teams, if not multiple teams, from that high 336 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: continuity bucket, because at least I know what I'm getting, 337 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: Whereas you know some of these teams. I think BYU 338 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: is a good example. Earlier in the year, it looked like, 339 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 4: you know, they certainly had the talent, the pieces weren't 340 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: always fitting together in terms of usage. Who was taking 341 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: more shots? This offense is going like this in the 342 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: last four games. It's a game I'm going to bring 343 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: up on Friday Night as well, but just someone to 344 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: consider about how teams change and evolve and the teams 345 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: that you basically now they're already fully baked at this 346 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: point in the season. All right, tok, I'm going to 347 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: kick it to you for one more thought in terms 348 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: of roster construction and maybe a team that you're underwhelmed 349 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: by thus far in the season. 350 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the last thing that I'll add about 351 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: the roster construction. This is just concommonant to the landscape 352 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: of college basketball and the transfer portal at large. You 353 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: now have situations like what Illinois just did where they 354 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: signed Tony Billich from Croatia. He's going to show up 355 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: at semester and he's going to play, and someone else 356 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: is not going to play, and you're able to poach 357 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: these guys so routinely from other places, and so you 358 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: don't have these programs that develop over the course of time, 359 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: and so what ends up happening there's an element of 360 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: compression where instead of playing together for three or four 361 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: seasons and having one hundred and twenty five games together, well, 362 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: that sort of continuity period needs to be built over 363 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: twenty five games before you get into the later stretch 364 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: of the season. So that's a wise word tell the 365 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: listeners to just you can start to form opinions of 366 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: who these teams are. But these teams are going to 367 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: improve throughout the season, and they're going to gel and 368 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: play cohesively. And there are several teams that may look 369 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: a lot different come March first than what they do today. 370 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: So that's a really good point to make on roster construction. 371 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: Unimpressive team, I mean, my goodness, Loyola Chicago. 372 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: You talk about an. 373 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: NCAAA tournament team that in recent years was still ranked 374 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: at the top one hundred level and Ken Pom, and 375 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: these guys have fallen all the way to three h 376 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: ninth and Ken Palm. You can check the historical ratings 377 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: and they've dropped each week this season. They have home 378 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: losses against Mercyhurst, a bad Northern Illinois team, and most recently, Hey, 379 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: let me check my notes, Chicago State at home. 380 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? These guys stink. 381 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: They can't shoot, they don't get to the line, they 382 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: play slow now, they turn the ball over. 383 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: It's just really bad hoops right now. And Valentine's been 384 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: there for some time. 385 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what he's doing with this program, but 386 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: Loyola Chicago should be on your fade. 387 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 4: List, Hi, Christian, Any thoughts on teams or perhaps the 388 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 4: gulf between the top ten, top fifteen teams and the 389 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: rest of college basketball. 390 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to add on the idea of teams geling 391 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: and chemistry building as the season goes along. A quick side. 392 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 5: Rant of it bothers me when a win the way 393 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: wins and resumes age in the sense of let's say 394 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 5: TCU was able to hold on against Michigan, and then 395 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 5: they're like a fourteen lost Big Twelve team that win 396 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 5: against Michigan when Michigan is still figuring out how to 397 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 5: play basketball together, completely carries their water on Selection Sunday 398 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 5: and they get it over a team that they're just 399 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 5: not as good as. I really wish that there was 400 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 5: some type of setup in February where we got, you know, 401 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 5: some high majors or similar level mid major leagues. 402 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: Play a couple of non con games. 403 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 5: Let's get a check in February when your team is 404 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 5: much closer to its final form, if not at its 405 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 5: final form, that's going to be completing in postseason play, 406 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 5: because I don't like how a win from November can 407 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 5: just yeah with brackbusters, bracketbusters. 408 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: It's like he just did that, bracketbusters. 409 00:17:59,359 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: Here we go. 410 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: I can't listen. 411 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 4: I don't think they trademarked it, and they did away 412 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: with it, so there's no reason you can't swoop in 413 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 4: and then sell it all over again as a brand 414 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: new thing. So yeah, I just I. 415 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 5: Wish there was a better way for those resumes to 416 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 5: to be accurate. And in terms of just the top 417 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: of the sport right now, there's just such incredible talent 418 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: right now. And I know everyone was sounding the alarms 419 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 5: after last year's All one Seeds and John Calipari's Arkansas 420 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: Razorbacks being our lovely double digit Cinderella. I do think 421 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: the best teams are the gap is widening, But at 422 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 5: the same time, it's the tournament. There's gonna be variance, 423 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 5: there's gonna be upsets, so I'm hoping we get that. 424 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 5: But at the same time, I'm looking at just some 425 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 5: of the talent, Like even if BYU has three players 426 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: that can score, and you know, the role players are 427 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 5: just really thin and you're just knocking out of the 428 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 5: bench at the end of the day, for a team 429 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 5: to just be a team with aj Demonster, Rob Wright 430 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 5: and Richie Sonders, it's kind of it feels like I'm 431 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: not comparing. 432 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: Them to the Big Three Heat in Miami. 433 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, it's like there's 434 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 5: only five players on the court, and if you have 435 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: three dudes that are the three most talented players in 436 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: the court. 437 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Like you have a shot. 438 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: All right. I mean for our first three man episode, 439 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: I think this perfectly is working. We're moving the ball around. 440 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: Because my final point is I'm someone who does the pitching. 441 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 4: In terms of like these are the teams you can 442 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 4: should consider to make it to the second weekend. From 443 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 4: a true Cinderella perspective, I agree. You know, Arkansas team 444 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 4: as a ten seed and name only what four or 445 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: five blue chip kids. They don't count. But when I 446 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: look at it right now, I'm a little bit worried 447 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 4: in terms of our Cinderella bench because you start obviously 448 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 4: you know the Zags don't count. You have Saint Mary's. 449 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: That's great, there kind of a national brand at this point. 450 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 4: When you start going down the line the other teams 451 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 4: that should be there, you'll get Yale, right. Their best 452 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: win is a shootout win over Akron and the Paradise Jam. 453 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: They need to shoot forty seven percent from three in 454 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: that game and make all twenty one of their foul 455 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: shots to squeak that one out. I'm not saying they 456 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: have to beat Alabama on December twenty ninth, but if 457 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 4: they get boat raced in that game, I don't care 458 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: how many games they win in the IVY. It's going 459 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 4: to be tough to get excited about the Bulldogs making 460 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: a run, even though they've you know, sparked upsets in 461 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: March before. They have a coach that knows his way 462 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 4: around that tournament. The air comes out of the balloon 463 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 4: a little bit for me. If they get dog walks 464 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: by Bama Miami of Ohio, they're undefeated, but holy crap, 465 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 4: is their schedule bad fourth worst in the entire sport. 466 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: And I know that their backcourt can really shoot ipsorrow 467 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 4: Buyers and Suitor. I mean, this is a team that 468 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: has the profile of years past, maybe ten years ago, 469 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 4: where it's like yef, they shoot fifty percent from three. 470 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: They could beat anybody. But this defense in front court 471 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 4: is going to get rolled by quality opponents. I think 472 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: they're going to get killed on the glass if they 473 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 4: are up against a power conference opponent with a really 474 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 4: nice front court, and that leaves us Belmont at least 475 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 4: by my estimation in terms of a team that we 476 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: can get excited about at this point, but they've fattened 477 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 4: up on cupcakes throughout the non con Casey Alexander is 478 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 4: a great coach and he certainly knows that, you know, 479 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: design a dynamic offense. They are five out, They move 480 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: the ball seamlessly, They got you know, knockdown shooters everywhere. 481 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 4: They're top fifteen in every shooting metric that you'd want. 482 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: Tyler Lundblade, by the way, is a march madness Darling 483 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: waiting to happen, and they hold up inside. This is 484 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: the common theme. It seems like all of the programs, 485 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: not just the top twenty five teams, but anyone with 486 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 4: any money. They're going out and they're grabbing those kids 487 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 4: we're six hate or bigger, who are bouncy, who are athletic, 488 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: and it's not leaving much. There's no more Kenneth Faried's 489 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: playing for morehead State. So I think you know the 490 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: option here is that what they do is they pack 491 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: it all in and they say you gotta beat us 492 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: from the perimeter. And for the majority of their schedule, 493 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 4: teams can out shoot Belmont. But if they play against 494 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: a team with three or four shooters. I think that 495 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 4: an avalanche is going to hit them and they're going 496 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: to lose, and then I think we're sunk in terms 497 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 4: of seeing you know, any Cinderellas. 498 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: Again, I'll pitch it. 499 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: To you, Christian. 500 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 4: Is there a team that you feel, you know in 501 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 4: your bones right now that if everything goes right, they 502 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: can finally break through and give the people what they want, 503 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: which is you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen seed in the 504 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: Sweet sixteen A. 505 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: No one really comes to mind. 506 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 5: At the big major level, I'm monitoring Belmont McNeese and 507 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 5: in these A ten teams. I know, the A ten 508 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 5: used to be a league where we were used to 509 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 5: seeing those multi bit but at this point I'm I'm 510 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 5: kind of considering those schools outside of Dayton. 511 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: Maybe your VCU a Cinderella in a sense. So we'll 512 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: be monitoring. 513 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 5: But in November and December, my focus is on just 514 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 5: getting a feel for a lot of these power conference teams, 515 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 5: and you know, as as the best of the mid 516 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 5: major start to emerge more clearly, then I start to 517 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 5: monitor those more. 518 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: How about you, Doug, It's Tulsa just so ASMR for Tulsa. 519 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: I like it it could be tall, so it could 520 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: be Colorado State. 521 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: I think Colorado State is a group that's improving in 522 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: this first year in the program for farup Esh as 523 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: head coach. Got a couple of good wins over South 524 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: Florida and Colorado, and this team will continue to improve 525 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: as the season comes. I mean exquisite three point shooting team, 526 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: really shooting in general. Colorado State just shoots the blazes 527 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: the nets off of it. So I think that's a 528 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: team that you know, depending on how many teams the 529 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: Mountain West gets in because you're reliant on them winning 530 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: the league tournament. 531 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: But if they don't and. 532 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: It's a multi bid league, or if they do and 533 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: they're the representative from the Mountain, If Colorado State shoots 534 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: in an NCAA tournament setting where you get a first 535 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: and second round matchup, that's a team that could really 536 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: make so always and a team that has been there before. 537 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: You know, had some chances in last year's tournament. I mean, 538 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: we all remember Queen hitting that shot for Maryland to 539 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: just bury the Rams. But I think Colorado State is 540 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: a supremely talented team. And I like teams that can 541 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: get hot at the right time and just blaze the nets. 542 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 5: I actually do have one major elly tadd u see 543 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 5: San Diego promoted within to totally new casting characters. But 544 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: they're still really good ten to one. They're only lost 545 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 5: at Nevada by six. They're a team that I've been 546 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 5: watching as well. 547 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: Before we get into some of our actual bets, let's 548 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: toss it over to Stucky for a word from our sponsor, DraftKings. 549 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 6: The Big Bets on Campus podcast is teamed up with 550 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 6: DraftKings Sportsbook, where new customers can bet five dollars and 551 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 6: get two hundred dollars back in bonus bets if your 552 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 6: bet wins. Love the thrill of live betting DraftKings has 553 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: gotten covered there. Bet live on star player props and 554 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 6: in progress games right as they happen. 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We will always be 578 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: cognizant of this, try to give you a bit of 579 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 4: a range. A lot of these projections throughout the season, 580 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 4: they get sharper as they go, particularly Tourvick I'm usually 581 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 4: shocked if it's off by more than a point and 582 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: a half. Duc getas started with a total, you're going 583 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 4: to a super popular game. Just kidding. Norfolk State Grambling 584 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: sitting in the one thirties. 585 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're gonna look under in this matchup. If 586 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: it's one thirty four and a half or a higher 587 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 3: posted total, you'll see all of these plays that I 588 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 3: talk about come through on the Action Network app. 589 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: Just so long as the Lions get to where we 590 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 2: assume they're going to be. 591 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: But this will be a fun HBCU game at a 592 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: neutral featuring the three hundred and ninth and three hundred 593 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: and twenty first most efficient offenses in the country. That 594 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 3: means bad offense. Both these are defensive minded groups that 595 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: are play slow. They don't shoot from deep, they really 596 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: don't shoot foul shots well. But both of these teams 597 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: do play hard on defense, and they would be what 598 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: I would be considered to be scrappy teams. They being 599 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: Norfolk State and Grambling State, seems like a real, highly 600 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 3: contested battle that both these teams are going to want 601 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 3: to win. I like the fact that it's at a neutral, 602 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: but I think both these teams could struggle to get 603 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 3: out of the fifties. I've got the winner of this 604 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: game having sixty sixty one points, so at one thirty 605 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: four and a half or so. 606 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 2: I like the under. 607 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 4: Christian talk me through Wisconsin Nova. Nova obviously has turned 608 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 4: things around quickly under Willard, but they want to play 609 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: very slow. Wisconsin would be happy to up the tempo, 610 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: allow their offense to kind of kickstart a run or two, 611 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: maybe at kill shot, and just pull away from Nova 612 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: before they even know what hit him. What do you 613 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: see between the Badgers and the Wildcats. 614 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 5: Nova's only two losses to top ten teams, but being 615 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 5: any one of their best wins at home against Pitt 616 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: and I look at Wisconsin, it just seems like a 617 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: really good by low on them. They just lost by 618 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 5: thirty at Nebraska. You know, a game like that can 619 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 5: get away from a high powered offense like Nebraska, who's 620 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 5: clearly a really good team at this point up to 621 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 5: twenty first and kempom obviously a huge way at Illinois. 622 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 5: This game's at Pfizer Forum in Milwaukee, so it's a 623 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 5: semi home spot. But I just think Wisconsin's a much 624 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 5: better team and Villanova's been great on the offensive lass 625 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 5: their eighteenth best nationally. Duke Brennan, the Grand Canyon transfer, 626 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 5: has been a monster, but Wisconsin's a really good defensive 627 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 5: rebind team. 628 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: Their top ten defensive rebounding. Nolan Winter's a beast. 629 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 5: I think he's a sneaky NBA guy, honestly, and I 630 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 5: think guys like Rap and Boyd and Blackwell and Roady 631 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: haven't really found their group yet. I think this is 632 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 5: the spot where they can in the half court just 633 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 5: be the more efficient offense and find a way to 634 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 5: get this one done. I expected to be around a 635 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 5: pick them or a small number for Wisconsin, and I 636 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 5: would be comfortable laying anything up to four. 637 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's stick with you. 638 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: You mentioned, you know, growing up in Big East Country, 639 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: lots of games at the dunk. You like Providence over 640 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 4: Seaton the Hall at home. 641 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 5: I'm huge on Seaton all this year, so there won't 642 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: be many times I'm backing them, but beginning of conference play, 643 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 5: I really like to lean towards the home teams. A 644 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 5: lot of these We talked earlier in the show about 645 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 5: a lot of these rosters still kind of finding themselves 646 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 5: at this point in the season, and non conning in 647 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 5: conference are are kind of two different worlds, and a 648 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 5: Big East game in a rowdy environment, it's it's gonna 649 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 5: be tough for Sea and Hall, I think. And Sea 650 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 5: and Hall's been elite force and turnovers. They're top five 651 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 5: nationally in that category. And Providence has a bunch of 652 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 5: different ball handlers, Jason Edwards being one of them in 653 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 5: their top fifty and taking care of the basketball. I 654 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 5: think this is one where I'm eyeing the under as well. 655 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: I think even though Providence has a quicker tempo, I 656 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 5: just think against Seat in Hall's defense, those possessions could 657 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 5: just be extended a bit. In Provinces getting six days 658 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 5: since that really tough double overtime loss at Butler, I 659 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 5: think it's a good get right spot to get come 660 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 5: home against a seen all team that I like a lot, 661 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: but still it's tough to get wins on the road 662 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 5: of the Big East, and I would lean with the 663 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 5: home team there. 664 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: I think we'll get a good number all right. 665 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 4: Friday Night the Battle of Seattle Washington Husky Zo the 666 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: Big Ten traveling in the city to play Seattle. You 667 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 4: a lot of market respects for Seattle at home. They've 668 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: won eighty one percent straight up of their home game 669 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: since twenty twenty one. 670 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: But this is different. 671 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 4: This is going to be the Huskies. It's only a 672 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 4: fifteen minute bus ride, their fans are going to be there, 673 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: and there's no overlooking the RedHawks in this spot. Bey 674 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 4: is Danny Sprinkle and his staff. They lost this game 675 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 4: last year. It was a really bad look on their 676 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: home floor, and I just think this is a usual 677 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 4: strength for Seattle at the low major level. When you 678 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: look at will Heimbrot in their front court six to seven, 679 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 4: a bouncy shot blocker. He handles the defense, Maldonado handles 680 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 4: the scoring. The problem here is Hannas Steinbach. I'm not 681 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 4: sure many people have watched him play. I know that 682 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: the Huskies they've made the Sweet sixteen. You know, really 683 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: in what sixteen years? It's been so long since they've 684 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: been relevant in college basketball. This is one of the 685 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: best players in the entire country. And the reason why 686 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 4: he's flying under the radar he had a bit of 687 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 4: an injury. You know, they had a rash of ankle 688 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: injuries across this entire roster, so he missed a few games. 689 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 4: But when he's on the floor, he's in the ninety 690 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: ninth percentile per Evan Mia. In terms of his offensive impact, 691 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 4: He's an absolute demon on the offensive glass. And then 692 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: these two Big Ten games this season, he's having twenty 693 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: six points, thirteen boards, three assists on seventy five percent shooting. 694 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 4: I think he's going to dominate this game. I'd lay 695 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: up to four and a half. The projection's calling for 696 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: it to be about three. Any number around there. I 697 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 4: think you need to pounce on it because the Huskies 698 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 4: are five and two against the spread with Steinbach in 699 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: the starting lineup, including three straight covers. 700 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 3: All right back to you, Duck for another total. Yeah, 701 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: this one's Thursday as well. Louisiana, Lafayette and Southern miss 702 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: If this total is at one thirty seven or higher, 703 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: we're going to look at the under Louisiana cannot shoot 704 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: the ball. They are one of the absolute worst offensive 705 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: teams in the entire country three fifty seventh per Ken 706 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: Palm and adjusted offensive efficiency. 707 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: They play very slow. 708 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: They routinely work the possession clock down below five seconds 709 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: or less. They oftentimes settle for low percentage shots, and 710 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: they're turning the ball over on twenty two percent of 711 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: offensive possessions. Sub three hundred level in shooting from two 712 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: three and the foul line. You look at Southern Miss, 713 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 3: they are playing way way slower than in prior seasons. 714 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: They're also a bad offensive team. They don't make three 715 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: point shots, they don't have any pace, and really outside 716 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: of Isaac Taveries and Hi League weeks, this team is 717 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: drag dead on offense. This is just another one where 718 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: I think the winning team will be in the low sixties, 719 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: and I don't think ULL breaks sixty in this one, 720 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: So I'm going to dive under on that one. 721 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: Friday night on your card. You have a natural rivalry 722 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 4: between North Alabama and Loyal Emeriormount out in California, one 723 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: of the weirder road trips between two low major schools. 724 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on this matchup? Bike? I mean, 725 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: Loyal Marormount's more than mid major, but in general, this 726 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 4: one is a tricky travel spot. Do you think the offense, 727 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: at least from North Alabama's going to be impacted? 728 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: I do. 729 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: LMU is one of my favorite under teams this season, 730 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: and they went under on Tuesday night with the UC 731 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: San Diego. These guys are just so defensively focused. They 732 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: really do have an underrated WCC defense. They defend without fouling. 733 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: They can test everything. You're not going to run on 734 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: these guys, and then offensively loyal and Marimount. They're really 735 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: void of any superstar scorers, and really, at times we've 736 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: seen this team just. 737 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: Really struggle to operate. There's very little movement. 738 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: They don't swing the ball to both sides, they don't 739 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: play inside out. They'll do some pick and roll, some 740 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: high ball screen stuff, but it's really, honestly a pretty 741 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 3: bland offense and easy to defend against. I look at 742 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 3: North Alabama, a real slow paced team. They cannot shoot 743 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: the three and three of their last four games against 744 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: Division one opponents have landed one twenty eight right on 745 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: the nose. These are going to be two bland under 746 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: teams squaring off. 747 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: You know what to do. 748 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: Projections are at about one thirty nine and a half. 749 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: Here we're going under. 750 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: All right, let's head up I five about six hours 751 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 4: from LA to the Bay Area for your last play. Christian, 752 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: you're targeting Saint Mary's at home against another team with 753 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: the brutal road trip. Fau come across country. 754 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 5: I have a love hate relationship with Saint Mary's because 755 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 5: sometimes I just absolutely can't stand watching them. Sometimes I 756 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 5: love how gross it is, and by gross, I mean 757 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 5: slow you down so much. 758 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: It's big. 759 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 5: Harry wessel Is just trying to tap it out, get 760 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 5: super deepost positions. 761 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: But they just guard so well as a team. 762 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: And I look at Florida Atlantic, who under second year 763 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 5: coach John Jacis, they're fine, right, they're eight and three, 764 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 5: their one hundred and seventeenth in KEMPOUM. But in the 765 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 5: three tougher matchups they've played, you know, they go at Liberty, 766 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 5: you lose by twenty. Liberty is a slower paced team 767 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 5: half court kind of just cut the water off. George Mason, 768 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 5: another slower pace half court team. You lose seventy four 769 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 5: to sixty five. Saint Bonaventure seventy to sixty five. So 770 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 5: in that game environment, I just don't see them being 771 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 5: able to score effectively. Kemp Pom's got at eighty to 772 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 5: sixty eight, I'd be looking at potentially a first half 773 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 5: under on Florida Atlantic, or just taking the gale. 774 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes laying the gals with the big number gets a 775 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: little hairy because you're like, why can't any of these 776 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: guards shoot except for Mike Lewis. It's a little frustrating, 777 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: but I'm very. 778 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 5: Confident in their ability to pound the volunteerior and solow 779 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 5: this pace down and make Florida Atlantic uncomfortable in the 780 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 5: half court. Who their best player, by the way, maybe 781 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 5: their second best player, But Cane Carlisle, who was really 782 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 5: exciting as a freshman at Stanford, goes to Indiana where 783 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 5: you know a lot of guards went to die under 784 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 5: Mike Woodson. 785 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: He's a good player. But Sam Mary's. Can't you know 786 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: a guy like that who just really wants to get 787 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: his off the dribble. Sam Mary's is a nightmare to 788 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: play against. 789 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 4: I'm going to lay the big number on Friday night, 790 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 4: apleon Christian travel and to provo to take on BYU. 791 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 4: It took a little time I mentioned at the top 792 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 4: for this BYU offense to come together. Last three home 793 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 4: games against the low majors ninety five points per game, 794 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 4: they covered all three against cal Baptists U see Riverside Pacific. 795 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 4: Cal Baptist, by the way, a quality low major. So 796 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 4: to have a pair of no sweat covers when laying 797 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 4: twenty or more, I think that's impressive. DEBANSA is coming 798 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 4: into his own, by the way, four straight games with 799 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 4: twenty two points or more. He's getting into the line consistently, 800 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 4: which I think this is already in dynamic offense, but 801 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 4: it gives them even more stability, you know, a higher 802 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 4: avoidance level when it comes to droughts with him getting 803 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 4: to the charity stripe and Ablion Christian, if you look back, 804 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 4: they're predicated, whether it's this coaching staff or the previous 805 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 4: one because they promoted from within. It's all about turning 806 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 4: you over. They upset Shaka Smart and Ut. You know 807 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: it was four years ago in the NCAA tournament by 808 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 4: forcing so many turnovers. 809 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 2: Opponents this year, by the way. 810 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 4: Still struggling against AC turning it over on nineteen percent 811 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 4: of their possessions. So if you're slobby with it, you 812 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 4: can get yourself into a rock fight. And that's when 813 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 4: Abilene Christian is worth a play. The difficult part here 814 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 4: is that Byu is so buttoned up in that regard 815 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 4: fewer than ten turnovers per night. And when it comes 816 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 4: to Robert right the third, I trust this guy with 817 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 4: a ball in his hands. Despite a high usage rate 818 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: one point three turnovers per game, I feel confident that 819 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 4: they're going to be able to get this done and 820 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 4: score in the nineties again. And the last piece of 821 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 4: it is, I don't mind laying a big number. I 822 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 4: guess teams that can't shoot this, you know, Wildcats team stinks. 823 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: They're three hundred and twenty six in effective field goal percentage. 824 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 4: So I'm going to go ahead lay the big number. 825 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 4: I go all the way up to thirty. With the 826 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 4: Cougars here, I think they're hidding their stride. This is 827 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 4: an opportunity before you know, Christmas break and everything else, 828 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 4: for them to just get one more neck crack kind 829 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 4: of game out of the way. Feel good about where 830 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 4: they're headed for, you know, the rest of the season 831 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 4: and particularly once they get into Big twelve play. 832 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: All right, it's signed for our Draft Kings. 833 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 4: Parlay before we get out of here. So we're going 834 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 4: to do a quick three leg parlay. Go to DraftKings 835 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 4: for the best prices. We're going to pick one of 836 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 4: our favorite you know picks individually put it all together. 837 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 4: We're going to start with Duck. I don't even know 838 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 4: if you mentioned this one yet. You see Irvine and 839 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 4: talk about the ant eaters here, saving the best for last, 840 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 4: let's hear it. 841 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is one where we have UC Irvine 842 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: projected as a small home dog. Could be two three 843 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: point hunderdogs. 844 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: Could see the eaters really frustrating Belmont. They've got a 845 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: lot of size in the posts that will create some 846 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: problems for what that this Casey Alexander offense wants to 847 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 3: do ucised defense. They defend well without fouling. They block 848 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 3: and alter a ton of shots. They force you into 849 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: bad shots and their opponents have missed a lot of them. 850 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 3: So for Belmont, you look at this wild cross country 851 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 3: travel spot going out there to California. This ain't Evansville 852 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 3: or Lipscomb or Middle Tennessee that you're squaring up against 853 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 3: here and you have to travel. This could be a 854 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: real jet leg trouble spot here for Belmont. And so 855 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 3: for this fun parlay, I think we should throw UCI 856 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: on the money line on this one. 857 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 4: Christian, what is your favorite or a new addition that 858 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 4: you want to add to this DK parlay. 859 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 5: I'm gonna see with Wisconsin, I'll put them on the 860 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 5: money line just because we're bringing in other legs. 861 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: Played a little safer. 862 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 5: But I just like the byspot Villanova very well might 863 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 5: be the third best team in the Big East. 864 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: I just am not ready to crown them as that yet. 865 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 5: And as great as Bryce Lindsay's been as great, like 866 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 5: I said, Duke Brennan's been on the glass, I still 867 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 5: kind of my questions about you know, ask you shooting 868 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 5: forty one percent from deep is that real? 869 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: Tyler Perkins shooting forty one percent from deep? Is that real? 870 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 5: And a Kadian Lewis There's been some growing pains. Obviously, 871 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 5: you see the talent there. But I just think Wisconsin 872 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 5: is a team that I'm looking to back right now 873 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 5: before people really think they're as good as either. I 874 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 5: think they're a clear tournament team, just not playing like 875 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 5: it really fully yet. 876 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 4: As I mentioned, I'm going to back Washington in the 877 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 4: Battle of the Seattle lay up to four and a 878 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 4: half in that one. It's a revenge spot. Steinbach will dominate, 879 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 4: Sprinkle covers his fourth straight game in a row, and 880 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 4: hopefully we get this to the window for you. That's 881 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 4: our DraftKings College Hoops parlay for the week. The crown 882 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 4: is yours. They'll do it. For today's episode of the 883 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 4: Big Bets on Campus podcast, presented by Draftking Sportsbook. A 884 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: special thanks to Duck and Christian for joining me. 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