WEBVTT - 90210 Post-Thanksgiving Friendsgiving 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:08.479 Find Out and Michael and radio podcast Happy friends Giving 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.360 even though it's already it was already Thanksgiving. But I 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:17.840 feel like it's just a year of happy friends giving. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.520 Do you know what I mean? Or no, yeah I do. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:24.600 I mean I think, uh, you know, because not everybody 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.319 lives close to their family, but wherever you live, you 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.480 have friends nearby, so you're probably spending more time with 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.839 friends than you have been family. You know, he just 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:41.120 sounded like jolly because Joey Jolie always goes. I loved 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.280 that as a family, a family, I did just it 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.600 just naturally came out instead of your family. Um, we 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.919 have dinner as a family. It's so cute, except when 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:57.120 our grown person says it was like, um, but yeah, 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.280 so this year, this whole year has been like a 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:05.039 friends here, friends giving, friends miss friends everything. I feel 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.760 like it's because we can't. You know, we were last 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:14.440 minute going to go to Michigan for Thanksgiving because you know, 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.760 grandparents are getting old and I wanted to eat my 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.760 grandpa stuffing, but it was COVID and obviously we didn't 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.240 want to bring anything to them, so we were supposed 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.160 to spend Thanksgiving with um, some friends of ours but 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:35.000 they were sick. Um and Jolie randomly like got a 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:36.880 fever out of nowhere. It was one of those like 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.600 she has no symptoms, she's just tired, but she had 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.840 a fever. So it was super strange. And so I'm like, 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.680 you know what, something just didn't feel right to me 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.640 about the whole situation. Um, and so we ended up 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.880 staying home. But I gotta tell you what, it was 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:57.360 probably one of my favorite thanksgivings, Like as as much 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.200 as like the friend's house we're going to go to 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.600 is like family. It was just nice, just us. It 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:09.920 was relaxing and you know, no forced small talk or conversation. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.480 I gotta tell you what, I hate small talk. It's 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:15.840 one of my least favorite things in the world to do. 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.760 Like we've got we've got invited to go to some 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.840 other friends places, not like neighborly friends, which our neighbors 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.080 are awesome, But I just don't like small talk. It 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.840 gives me so much anxiety to do small talk like so, 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.320 and I'm kind of the king of small talk at times. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.480 It's like anytime Jan and I have gone to like 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.760 a mutual business meeting, I'm in there like, hey, let's 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.200 just when it's business, I feel like I just want 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.360 to get to it. You do, like there's no there's 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.240 no butter in the biscuit for you. Like I'll be 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.600 in like hey, Kevin, Hey, sounds how you guys doing doing? 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.840 It's like, okay, let's talk what we're gonna do. I'm like, 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:00.679 like you just strictly business when it's about business. Yeah, 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.160 I really don't know honestly why I think with business, 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.080 I just want to get I want to get to it, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.000 you know, just get to the business talk of things. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:13.160 But then also when it comes to friends, it's hard 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.480 for me to like I love meeting new people. You 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.000 know that, like I can. I can, Like I mean, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:20.960 I met my best friend on an airplane. So I 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.720 like to talk. I think it's just the small talk 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.960 of just the few back and forth things that I 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.560 don't like, Like I want to if I'm gonna talk 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:30.760 to you, I want to get in. I want to 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.360 know your story. I want to know, like why you 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.080 weren't married, why you got divorced, Like I want to 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.840 like ask all of those questions. That's the stuff I 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.040 want to talk about. It's this small talk like oh 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.120 what do you do? Oh? Yeah, I'm like, huh, yeah, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.760 like it just I don't know, I don't like it. No, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.040 it's true. It's like you can become friends with people 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.800 so quickly because you go there so quickly and you 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.560 have an inviting presence about you, so people are willing 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.720 to go there with you quickly, and then once you 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:05.080 get there, it's like all right, it's like, hey, how 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.880 are you like some that small talk stuff you just 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.160 have a problem with? And I see that, which is 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.720 why I'm happy because this year, I mean, granted again 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.839 we didn't have our friends Giving, but I feel like 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.400 it is the season of friends giving because for Christmas 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.280 we're gonna do a friends Miss, which we did last 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.640 year and it was so awesome. Yea. And nothing against 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.080 family or anything like that. It's just well, we'd love 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.640 to have our family, but they're afraid of you know, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.919 COVID and all those things. So okay. So if you 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:37.120 had a choice between spending the holidays with your friends 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.400 or your family, what would you choose. Well, I mean 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.520 obviously I would choose my family, like I want to 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:50.440 see my family, you know. But no, no, there's no 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:56.919 but it's I will say last Friends Miss was so 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.000 much fun with all the friends. Like we had a 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.640 great time, you know what it's like. You know. So 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.280 Jane and I we have the same kind of routine, 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.200 uh list of Christmas movies that we watch every year, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.200 and we started it this past weekend with Four Christmas 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.200 Is very We think that's a very underrated movie. By 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.920 the way, Vince Vaughn and um and like when they're 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.600 talking to beginning of the movie and his friends are like, 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.600 you know, you gotta go to my parents or my 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.359 mother in laws and sleep on the couch with the 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.760 cats and do this and do that. And Vince Vaughn's 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.480 like that sounds terrible. Why do you do that? And 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.840 the like it's Christmas, It's what you do, right. It's 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:41.040 just one of those things, which to an extent I get. Well, 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.600 here's we're all astric mine. People are more than welcome 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.720 to come to our house. Like I think my mom well, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.440 but I think my mom and them have changed their 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.640 mind because of you know, COVID and stuff. But our 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.160 doors always open. I just don't want to travel for Christmas. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:56.960 And I know we've talked about that before. So that's 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:01.520 why again with having like the friends giving I don't 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.160 know it's just the year of friends giving because we're 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.440 able to be with our friends, and I think we 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.640 want to be with our families. But we have to 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.120 make the best of the situation. And sometimes you know, 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.480 friends are the family you get to pick, which is 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:20.480 kind of nice. Yeah, and I'm confident that will never 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:25.080 travel for a Christmas. Um maybe when the kids are older. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.159 There would have to be older. Yeah, but no time 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:33.359 in the next five years. By the way, friend of 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.599 you avid wind down listeners, you know, that's huge for 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.120 Michael to say, because boy, did we have an argument 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.080 about that one that was like the beginning of wind down. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.520 You can't say that, And I'm like, no, but you can. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:48.960 By the way, I'm sorry if I sound like a man. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:50.800 My kid coughed in my face and he gave me 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.960 whatever he had. And don't worry, we're getting COVID tests 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:59.840 later just double check. Oh man, No, It is like, 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.000 I don't know, what would you if you had the choice, Like, hey, 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.880 you know, would do friends miss or your parents? Can come? 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.119 Your family? I'll say your family. So does it feels 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:17.320 like such a personal attack? You know, both have their 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.120 their pros and cons. I mean, obviously family, you're always 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.000 drawn more towards family, you know, and it's great for 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.040 especially when you have kids. It's great for the kids. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.840 I don't know, it's hard. I think something that I realized, 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.440 Like again, I'll always say like my family absolutely our 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.480 doors open, like always want our door open. It's going 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.480 to the families where it's like, okay, we're gonna go 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.040 here at this time, here at the seven, Like I'm 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.160 thirty seven years old. You're not gonna tell me a 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.960 schedule for when we are going to visit a family, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:48.760 do you know what I mean? Like I remember that 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.000 one year and it's like, I'm sorry, you want me 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.560 to be up at what time? And that was before 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.040 we had kids, So that was back when we slept 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:02.200 in huh no, no, no, I'm a grown adult. We're 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.480 gonna be up at eight. Yeah, we're gonna eat breakfast 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.600 and we're gonna go to a church. You're here like 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:15.120 excuse you? Okay, yes, ma'am. So I think again, doors 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.440 always open. I'll always just him. I love my family. 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.720 I love like we just had my brother and his 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.280 wife here, best time ever, so fun. We played card games, 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.920 and so I think the doors is always open. But 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.040 because of COVID this year, it is that friends and 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.360 and we are you have to be tricky this year too, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.760 even with you know, friends giving and you know friends 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:41.720 miss it's like, you know, it's scary out there right now. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.600 Which ones are being going out too much? Oh for sure? 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.679 But I think that's what was cool about like Thanksgiving 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:53.199 is the fact that it was just us and there 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:57.400 wasn't stressed around that. Like sometimes, you know, we could 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.040 have even been guilty of it in the past where 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.840 it's like we're only by ourselves and we're not with 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.800 so and so or so and so we don't have 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.040 friends with us or family or you know, it could 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.200 be sad or frustrating and or you know, have create anxiety. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.080 So for everyone just to be like if it is 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.640 just you and the person, just the person you're with 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:22.120 or your your immediate family, that's awesome. Enjoy it. I agree. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:26.360 I usually I get really sad on holidays and I'm like, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.160 it was just us and like you know, and I'm like, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.400 it was just us and it was amazing. It was 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:36.720 so relaxing and I get to organize what did I do? 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:42.160 Oh on Thanksgiving Day, I'm I'm kind of taking some 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.280 food to our friend's house and swapping food and because 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.040 we initially plan on going over there, but obviously plans changed. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.840 So I come back and watch Jannah doing Oh she's 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:56.840 not relaxing, she's not just hanging out. She's literally rearranging 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.320 Jolie's room, almost pulls her back out by trying to 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:06.960 move full size bad by herself. I'm like, now Thanksgiving, 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.800 I'm downstairs, like based in the Turkey, and I had 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.520 already got all your stuff was done, all your homework 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.600 was done. Yeah, but you just couldn't stop while I 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:22.080 was making room for Santa smart play. M Speaking of 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:27.040 friends giving, I would like to throw a little friends 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:33.240 giving on a relationship. Let's hear it topic. We had 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:38.840 a little issue, um, like Michael said, we were doing 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.520 a Oh by the way, before I get into that story, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:46.160 talk about a friend's giving. We've got Tori spelling and 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.000 freaking Jenny Garth coming on the show today. They have 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.719 a new podcast where they talk about Nanoto No it's Nanotua, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:58.200 Oh my god, which is so genius. Um, And I'm 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.400 pumped about it because I didn't know about the podcast, 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:04.360 but now I'm like, I love nanoto No. Did you 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:09.280 watch it was a little bit before my as Jana 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.080 likes to say, we're a different generations. We are, and 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.160 that is the proof in the pudding right there, you're 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.080 three years older than me. It doesn't matter generationally wise 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:23.719 and shows nine o two one. Oh. I mean, I 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.959 think this is kind of embarrassing and a calablieve that 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:31.960 I'm saying this, But like Dylan Luke Perry's character, like 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:33.720 I think I was at the age where I was 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.320 like I used my hand to pretend it with him kissing. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.560 I thought you were gonna say I was using my hand. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:48.880 Michael really about to say this on air right now, 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.480 like when you know you like the French kiss, like 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:57.280 your hand. Come on, Danielle, have you done that before? 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.480 You know what I'm talking about. And she's not even 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.480 gonna get on here issue. My hand was definitely lands 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:10.840 bass when I was ten years old, So gotten, Michael, 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:15.160 get your head out of the gutter. Hey man, I'm 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.960 just picking up what you're putting down. Come on, any guy, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.840 you said I used to pretend that it was Luke 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.800 Perry when I was using my hand, that's what you said. Well, 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.640 I mean the age like I would kiss my Probably 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.920 I'm like joking, like, but I would know I have. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.040 Let me just say, I'm going to talk about the 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.560 MS to you that did not happen into my late twenties. Okay, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.719 so I was a late bloomer on that one. On 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.040 the episode of Friends and Friends Giving. We're all friends here, 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.000 so when you talk about that kind of stuff anyways, 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.160 I loved I love love, love love love. Now don't know, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.240 but it was. I mean, yes, I'm older than you, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.000 but it was. I was a little young watching it, 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.760 for sure, but I still watched it and I loved it. Um, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.600 we should rewatch it. I think you, I think you'd 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.160 like it. That would be a great one to do, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.760 which is what they were doing on their podcast, really 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.760 watching it and they're giving all the juicy details and 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.000 stuff behind the scenes, which I always love to know 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:23.520 the real drama behind the scenes and how people are. Okay, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:29.520 So before we get Jenny and Tori on, Um, what 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.520 I was going to say was because it is a 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:37.040 friend's giving kind of year. Um, I feel like the 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:41.439 other night we were actually friends with each other and 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:47.000 how we handled a situation were so we were super 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.880 pumped because, like Mike said, we started rewatching Christmas shows, movies, 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:59.000 movies show movie, apple sponges and um. And we were 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:00.839 kind of like making a joke like let's not talk 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.400 to each other the whole day so we don't get 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.960 into a fight. Like obviously joking, but like but kind 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.800 of like, all right, let's not bring anything up that 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.480 could stir the pot. I could stir the pot. Like 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.280 we just want to have a really nice, relaxing night, 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:13.880 Like we just got our tree up, like we just 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.880 want to chill and like, yeah, like our decorations are done. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.480 Our tree was up. We're like, oh my gosh, I 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.280 got the dinner and we put the kids down. We 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.680 can have a fire going, the trees up, decorations, all 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.600 the lights off, just the twinkle lights that are on 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.560 the tree in the garland and all that stuff, and 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.680 we'll watch movie. I'm like, oh my god, it's the 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.680 perfect night. We'll give each other for massages. Yeah. And 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.280 it was like leading up to it, like we're all 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:38.240 just like super cute and kissy and and then we 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:43.760 get on the couch and Mike goes so I think 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.640 I want to buy and then says like an amount 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:51.480 of money for about something, and I get very stressed. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.480 About money, and I think what made me really annoyed 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.800 was that I'm like, now, right now, you have to 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.280 talk about this, like right before we're about to have 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.720 really sweet I literally have the movie keyed up on 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.440 the TV. All I have I haven't paused at the 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.800 very beginning. All I have to do is push the 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.160 button to play it, pause it. And I was like, 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:19.840 so I want to buy something for somebody. It was 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.400 just a lot of money, and you know, again, I 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.240 get real anxiety around money and talking about it. And 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.000 I just really didn't like the timing in which he 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.400 brought it up. Which I'll say I'm big on that 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:38.040 because I've given that to Janna Bunch where she'll it's 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.680 like we've talked about on here before when we're getting 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.000 ready for a date night and Janna is like, you're 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:45.960 gonna be great for the next date night? Is we 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.600 do something really fancy? I'm like, really, right now, before 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.240 we go on this date night, you want to talk 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.920 about how much better the next one could be. I'm like, 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.160 the timing is just terrible, and my timing was terrible 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.760 on Saturday, awful. All we started to do what we 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.640 usually do, which is where we like dance and we 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.800 go around in a circle. But then I feel like 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.200 it was our first example of how we were able 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:15.320 to take a breath, try to restart, I have a 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:19.320 healthy conversation. And I think it's we basically practiced what 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.680 we preach in the book. We actually did it and 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.760 it was fantastic. And I was like, all right, Like 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:31.520 it wasn't seamless, it wasn't perfect, but we stayed in it. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.200 And I think that's something that I want to asterix 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:36.680 is that we stayed in it. Because there was a 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.840 point where I'm like, oh god, here it goes. Here's 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.080 where Mike's gonna start getting loud, start getting defensive. I 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.400 saw your shield and I was like, this is where 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.720 he gets up, goes in the room. And then we 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:52.280 sleep in sud bedrooms and I like, saw you change 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.600 it and it was really cool to see. So I 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.200 just think with the season, you know, just to remember 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.000 that your spouse is your friend. And I think it's 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.520 something that you learned about because um, there was a 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.800 shortage in the nursery at church and I volunteer for 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:10.880 the kids nursery and I wasn't able to watch church. Um, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:12.720 when we normally do but Mike got to and so 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.879 the pastor was talking about friends, right, Yeah, yeah, I 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.240 appreciate you remind me of that. You know, he was, Um, 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.600 he was talking about friends and like right now, for 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.080 the month of December, they're doing at our church cross 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.359 Point here in Nashville. Um, they're talking about what the 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.960 world needs now. And so every weekend, UM, it's a 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.879 different theme on like what the world needs now. And 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.080 you know the one this past weekend was kindness. Um, 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.639 two weeks ago it was goodness. And and you know, 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.359 he was talking about the difference between the two. And 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.520 you know, goodness is is like your moral belief, like 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.120 is who you are. Kindness are things that you do 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.400 like acts of kindness. Right, that's why that's a that's 0:17:54.440 --> 0:18:00.520 a phrase. And he was talking about things and basically 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:07.440 what there's there's so many ways that people can be incompatible, right, 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.760 And he was connecting it back to where if you're 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.280 a believer in a higher power, and especially if you 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.200 believe in the same higher power. He's like, that's all 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.160 the compatibility that you need to connect with somebody else. 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:19.760 They don't have to do the same thing as you, 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:21.119 they don't have to look the same as you. They 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:22.800 don't have to sound the same as you. They don't 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.359 have to be like you. They can be completely different 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:32.080 in so many ways. But the ultimate, you know, nucleus 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.959 of the connection with somebody else is is that's simple. 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:37.960 It can be your higher power. And he was talking 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.960 about his seven year old and how they're just on 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.720 a vacation or whatever, and his seven year old was, 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.399 you know, making all these friends. He's like, gosh, I 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.320 was like, I'm I'm a I'm an adult, my thirties, Like, 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.840 it's so hard to make friends at times. He's like 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.199 my daughter, you know, she's just like the way she 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.200 looks at other kids. She's like, oh, year seven, I'm seven, 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.679 you're human. I'm a human. Cool, let's do this and 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.119 it can be that easy. Granted, we're drawn to people 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.919 that may obviously do the same things we do and 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.320 unfortunately maybe look the same as we do or are 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.879 very similar to us. But it was just such a 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.800 cool message in the times like this, where it's like, man, 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.680 if we can all just open our hearts to people 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.359 who just have similar beliefs in a higher power and 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.760 that kind of connectedness and doesn't have to be political, 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.200 It doesn't have to be anything else. What do you 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:30.120 say about the wives too? Like the relational aspect of it, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:36.239 like your friends, Remember how you said, like who can 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.680 hurt you the most out of your friends? Oh? Yeah, 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:43.719 my wife? He you know, our pastors talking about you know, 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.920 his therapist or his counselor that he sees, and they 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.320 are on this friend's topic and his counts are asked him. 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.040 He's like, you know, who in your life is close 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.160 enough to you that can hurt you? And he's thinking 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.280 and thinking, thinking, He's like the only person I could 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.560 think of was my wife m hm. And he was like, 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:04.760 all right, well, we got some work to do around that. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.399 Like why he you know, he starts going into like 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.439 why he doesn't let other people in, why he doesn't 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:15.439 have the friends that I know him well enough or 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.800 he's let in well enough to hurt them to hurt him. 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.000 And it's such a such a good way to think 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.240 about it, because if you think about all the friends 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.359 or acquaintances you have, how many of those people could 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:31.399 do some something that could truly like harm you emotionally. 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.679 You know. It's just a good way to kind of 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:40.679 judge your friendship or rate your friendship and also you know, 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.439 introspectively looking into with your spouse, you know, and treating 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:52.560 them as a friend and remembering that. Um, well, hey, 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:54.600 thank you for sharing. B I love you're my friend. 0:20:55.359 --> 0:21:01.520 You're my friend. Bro. Speaking of friends, Um, Jenny and 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:06.840 Tori spelling on the show. Hi, ladies, thanks for coming 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:11.560 on wind Down. You guys, look, I'm in pjs and 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.480 we have no makeup on apologies. You guys look gorgeous. 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:19.720 Where are you? Um, We're in Nashville. That that's why 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:28.119 you look so Realixed want to be there. Um okay, 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.280 So you guys have the nine O two one o 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.560 MG podcast, which, by the way, is so genius because 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.520 as a nine O two and O lover, like I'm 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.680 I'm so excited to listen to this podcast now because 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.040 I want to know all the details and the like 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.440 the behind the scenes and you know, just all of it. 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.240 How is it? How is it reliving that? So you 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:50.200 guys are rewatching the series, correct, and then you podcast 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:55.440 about it. We've never watched it together. Oh, I've never 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:59.680 really even sat down the show because you know, when 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.040 you're making a show like that, you're really caught up. 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.200 And then it was like thirty years ago, So if 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.320 I did watch it, I've probably forgotten about it by now. 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.199 But so it's nice to go back and watch it. 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:13.080 And I'm literally watching it like a fan, like what's 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.920 gonna happen? Now? I can't really Brandon so hot? And look, 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:22.159 I love the whole thing. Now you know what the 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.760 crease was all about? You get it? Apparently thirty years later, like, oh, 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.680 we get it. It all makes sense. How many times 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:31.800 I have to ask this because I feel like every 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:34.960 anyone that sees a picture of themselves even five years ago, 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.240 if they're like, oh my gosh, why did I wear that? 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.240 Or why did I have my hair like that? How 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:41.480 does it feel seeing you guys like thirty years ago 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.680 being like that was the fashion? Or like how many 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:48.159 times does that happen? Well? Were living in the fashion 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:52.119 right now? Yeah, we're back in the nineties, but all 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.120 we're kind of trying to get back into the nineties though, 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:56.399 I think to her, I think we need to like 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.159 let the kids bring back the nineties and we'll watch 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:03.440 from the talking directly to me. Right now, I'm sitting 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.760