Speaker 1: Find Out and Michael and radio podcast Happy friends Giving
Speaker 1: even though it's already it was already Thanksgiving. But I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just a year of happy friends giving.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Or no, yeah I do.
Speaker 1: I mean I think, uh, you know, because not everybody
Speaker 1: lives close to their family, but wherever you live, you
Speaker 1: have friends nearby, so you're probably spending more time with
Speaker 1: friends than you have been family. You know, he just
Speaker 1: sounded like jolly because Joey Jolie always goes. I loved
Speaker 1: that as a family, a family, I did just it
Speaker 1: just naturally came out instead of your family. Um, we
Speaker 1: have dinner as a family. It's so cute, except when
Speaker 1: our grown person says it was like, um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so this year, this whole year has been like a
Speaker 1: friends here, friends giving, friends miss friends everything. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's because we can't. You know, we were last
Speaker 1: minute going to go to Michigan for Thanksgiving because you know,
Speaker 1: grandparents are getting old and I wanted to eat my
Speaker 1: grandpa stuffing, but it was COVID and obviously we didn't
Speaker 1: want to bring anything to them, so we were supposed
Speaker 1: to spend Thanksgiving with um, some friends of ours but
Speaker 1: they were sick. Um and Jolie randomly like got a
Speaker 1: fever out of nowhere. It was one of those like
Speaker 1: she has no symptoms, she's just tired, but she had
Speaker 1: a fever. So it was super strange. And so I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, something just didn't feel right to me
Speaker 1: about the whole situation. Um, and so we ended up
Speaker 1: staying home. But I gotta tell you what, it was
Speaker 1: probably one of my favorite thanksgivings, Like as as much
Speaker 1: as like the friend's house we're going to go to
Speaker 1: is like family. It was just nice, just us. It
Speaker 1: was relaxing and you know, no forced small talk or conversation.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you what, I hate small talk. It's
Speaker 1: one of my least favorite things in the world to do.
Speaker 1: Like we've got we've got invited to go to some
Speaker 1: other friends places, not like neighborly friends, which our neighbors
Speaker 1: are awesome, But I just don't like small talk. It
Speaker 1: gives me so much anxiety to do small talk like so,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of the king of small talk at times.
Speaker 1: It's like anytime Jan and I have gone to like
Speaker 1: a mutual business meeting, I'm in there like, hey, let's
Speaker 1: just when it's business, I feel like I just want
Speaker 1: to get to it. You do, like there's no there's
Speaker 1: no butter in the biscuit for you. Like I'll be
Speaker 1: in like hey, Kevin, Hey, sounds how you guys doing doing?
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, let's talk what we're gonna do. I'm like,
Speaker 1: like you just strictly business when it's about business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really don't know honestly why I think with business,
Speaker 1: I just want to get I want to get to it,
Speaker 1: you know, just get to the business talk of things.
Speaker 1: But then also when it comes to friends, it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to like I love meeting new people. You
Speaker 1: know that, like I can. I can, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I met my best friend on an airplane. So I
Speaker 1: like to talk. I think it's just the small talk
Speaker 1: of just the few back and forth things that I
Speaker 1: don't like, Like I want to if I'm gonna talk
Speaker 1: to you, I want to get in. I want to
Speaker 1: know your story. I want to know, like why you
Speaker 1: weren't married, why you got divorced, Like I want to
Speaker 1: like ask all of those questions. That's the stuff I
Speaker 1: want to talk about. It's this small talk like oh
Speaker 1: what do you do? Oh? Yeah, I'm like, huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: like it just I don't know, I don't like it. No,
Speaker 1: it's true. It's like you can become friends with people
Speaker 1: so quickly because you go there so quickly and you
Speaker 1: have an inviting presence about you, so people are willing
Speaker 1: to go there with you quickly, and then once you
Speaker 1: get there, it's like all right, it's like, hey, how
Speaker 1: are you like some that small talk stuff you just
Speaker 1: have a problem with? And I see that, which is
Speaker 1: why I'm happy because this year, I mean, granted again
Speaker 1: we didn't have our friends Giving, but I feel like
Speaker 1: it is the season of friends giving because for Christmas
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a friends Miss, which we did last
Speaker 1: year and it was so awesome. Yea. And nothing against
Speaker 1: family or anything like that. It's just well, we'd love
Speaker 1: to have our family, but they're afraid of you know,
Speaker 1: COVID and all those things. So okay. So if you
Speaker 1: had a choice between spending the holidays with your friends
Speaker 1: or your family, what would you choose. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: obviously I would choose my family, like I want to
Speaker 1: see my family, you know. But no, no, there's no
Speaker 1: but it's I will say last Friends Miss was so
Speaker 1: much fun with all the friends. Like we had a
Speaker 1: great time, you know what it's like. You know. So
Speaker 1: Jane and I we have the same kind of routine,
Speaker 1: uh list of Christmas movies that we watch every year,
Speaker 1: and we started it this past weekend with Four Christmas
Speaker 1: Is very We think that's a very underrated movie. By
Speaker 1: the way, Vince Vaughn and um and like when they're
Speaker 1: talking to beginning of the movie and his friends are like,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta go to my parents or my
Speaker 1: mother in laws and sleep on the couch with the
Speaker 1: cats and do this and do that. And Vince Vaughn's
Speaker 1: like that sounds terrible. Why do you do that? And
Speaker 1: the like it's Christmas, It's what you do, right. It's
Speaker 1: just one of those things, which to an extent I get. Well,
Speaker 1: here's we're all astric mine. People are more than welcome
Speaker 1: to come to our house. Like I think my mom well,
Speaker 1: but I think my mom and them have changed their
Speaker 1: mind because of you know, COVID and stuff. But our
Speaker 1: doors always open. I just don't want to travel for Christmas.
Speaker 1: And I know we've talked about that before. So that's
Speaker 1: why again with having like the friends giving I don't
Speaker 1: know it's just the year of friends giving because we're
Speaker 1: able to be with our friends, and I think we
Speaker 1: want to be with our families. But we have to
Speaker 1: make the best of the situation. And sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: friends are the family you get to pick, which is
Speaker 1: kind of nice. Yeah, and I'm confident that will never
Speaker 1: travel for a Christmas. Um maybe when the kids are older.
Speaker 1: There would have to be older. Yeah, but no time
Speaker 1: in the next five years. By the way, friend of
Speaker 1: you avid wind down listeners, you know, that's huge for
Speaker 1: Michael to say, because boy, did we have an argument
Speaker 1: about that one that was like the beginning of wind down.
Speaker 1: You can't say that, And I'm like, no, but you can.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm sorry if I sound like a man.
Speaker 1: My kid coughed in my face and he gave me
Speaker 1: whatever he had. And don't worry, we're getting COVID tests
Speaker 1: later just double check. Oh man, No, It is like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, what would you if you had the choice, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, would do friends miss or your parents? Can come?
Speaker 1: Your family? I'll say your family. So does it feels
Speaker 1: like such a personal attack? You know, both have their
Speaker 1: their pros and cons. I mean, obviously family, you're always
Speaker 1: drawn more towards family, you know, and it's great for
Speaker 1: especially when you have kids. It's great for the kids.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's hard. I think something that I realized,
Speaker 1: Like again, I'll always say like my family absolutely our
Speaker 1: doors open, like always want our door open. It's going
Speaker 1: to the families where it's like, okay, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: here at this time, here at the seven, Like I'm
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old. You're not gonna tell me a
Speaker 1: schedule for when we are going to visit a family,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like I remember that
Speaker 1: one year and it's like, I'm sorry, you want me
Speaker 1: to be up at what time? And that was before
Speaker 1: we had kids, So that was back when we slept
Speaker 1: in huh no, no, no, I'm a grown adult. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be up at eight. Yeah, we're gonna eat breakfast
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go to a church. You're here like
Speaker 1: excuse you? Okay, yes, ma'am. So I think again, doors
Speaker 1: always open. I'll always just him. I love my family.
Speaker 1: I love like we just had my brother and his
Speaker 1: wife here, best time ever, so fun. We played card games,
Speaker 1: and so I think the doors is always open. But
Speaker 1: because of COVID this year, it is that friends and
Speaker 1: and we are you have to be tricky this year too,
Speaker 1: even with you know, friends giving and you know friends
Speaker 1: miss it's like, you know, it's scary out there right now.
Speaker 1: Which ones are being going out too much? Oh for sure?
Speaker 1: But I think that's what was cool about like Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: is the fact that it was just us and there
Speaker 1: wasn't stressed around that. Like sometimes, you know, we could
Speaker 1: have even been guilty of it in the past where
Speaker 1: it's like we're only by ourselves and we're not with
Speaker 1: so and so or so and so we don't have
Speaker 1: friends with us or family or you know, it could
Speaker 1: be sad or frustrating and or you know, have create anxiety.
Speaker 1: So for everyone just to be like if it is
Speaker 1: just you and the person, just the person you're with
Speaker 1: or your your immediate family, that's awesome. Enjoy it. I agree.
Speaker 1: I usually I get really sad on holidays and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it was just us and like you know, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it was just us and it was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: so relaxing and I get to organize what did I do?
Speaker 1: Oh on Thanksgiving Day, I'm I'm kind of taking some
Speaker 1: food to our friend's house and swapping food and because
Speaker 1: we initially plan on going over there, but obviously plans changed.
Speaker 1: So I come back and watch Jannah doing Oh she's
Speaker 1: not relaxing, she's not just hanging out. She's literally rearranging
Speaker 1: Jolie's room, almost pulls her back out by trying to
Speaker 1: move full size bad by herself. I'm like, now Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: I'm downstairs, like based in the Turkey, and I had
Speaker 1: already got all your stuff was done, all your homework
Speaker 1: was done. Yeah, but you just couldn't stop while I
Speaker 1: was making room for Santa smart play. M Speaking of
Speaker 1: friends giving, I would like to throw a little friends
Speaker 1: giving on a relationship. Let's hear it topic. We had
Speaker 1: a little issue, um, like Michael said, we were doing
Speaker 1: a Oh by the way, before I get into that story,
Speaker 1: talk about a friend's giving. We've got Tori spelling and
Speaker 1: freaking Jenny Garth coming on the show today. They have
Speaker 1: a new podcast where they talk about Nanoto No it's Nanotua,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, which is so genius. Um, And I'm
Speaker 1: pumped about it because I didn't know about the podcast,
Speaker 1: but now I'm like, I love nanoto No. Did you
Speaker 1: watch it was a little bit before my as Jana
Speaker 1: likes to say, we're a different generations. We are, and
Speaker 1: that is the proof in the pudding right there, you're
Speaker 1: three years older than me. It doesn't matter generationally wise
Speaker 1: and shows nine o two one. Oh. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think this is kind of embarrassing and a calablieve that
Speaker 1: I'm saying this, But like Dylan Luke Perry's character, like
Speaker 1: I think I was at the age where I was
Speaker 1: like I used my hand to pretend it with him kissing.
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say I was using my hand.
Speaker 1: Michael really about to say this on air right now,
Speaker 1: like when you know you like the French kiss, like
Speaker 1: your hand. Come on, Danielle, have you done that before?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. And she's not even
Speaker 1: gonna get on here issue. My hand was definitely lands
Speaker 1: bass when I was ten years old, So gotten, Michael,
Speaker 1: get your head out of the gutter. Hey man, I'm
Speaker 1: just picking up what you're putting down. Come on, any guy,
Speaker 1: you said I used to pretend that it was Luke
Speaker 1: Perry when I was using my hand, that's what you said. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the age like I would kiss my Probably
Speaker 1: I'm like joking, like, but I would know I have.
Speaker 1: Let me just say, I'm going to talk about the
Speaker 1: MS to you that did not happen into my late twenties. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I was a late bloomer on that one. On
Speaker 1: the episode of Friends and Friends Giving. We're all friends here,
Speaker 1: so when you talk about that kind of stuff anyways,
Speaker 1: I loved I love love, love love love. Now don't know,
Speaker 1: but it was. I mean, yes, I'm older than you,
Speaker 1: but it was. I was a little young watching it,
Speaker 1: for sure, but I still watched it and I loved it. Um,
Speaker 1: we should rewatch it. I think you, I think you'd
Speaker 1: like it. That would be a great one to do,
Speaker 1: which is what they were doing on their podcast, really
Speaker 1: watching it and they're giving all the juicy details and
Speaker 1: stuff behind the scenes, which I always love to know
Speaker 1: the real drama behind the scenes and how people are. Okay,
Speaker 1: So before we get Jenny and Tori on, Um, what
Speaker 1: I was going to say was because it is a
Speaker 1: friend's giving kind of year. Um, I feel like the
Speaker 1: other night we were actually friends with each other and
Speaker 1: how we handled a situation were so we were super
Speaker 1: pumped because, like Mike said, we started rewatching Christmas shows, movies,
Speaker 1: movies show movie, apple sponges and um. And we were
Speaker 1: kind of like making a joke like let's not talk
Speaker 1: to each other the whole day so we don't get
Speaker 1: into a fight. Like obviously joking, but like but kind
Speaker 1: of like, all right, let's not bring anything up that
Speaker 1: could stir the pot. I could stir the pot. Like
Speaker 1: we just want to have a really nice, relaxing night,
Speaker 1: Like we just got our tree up, like we just
Speaker 1: want to chill and like, yeah, like our decorations are done.
Speaker 1: Our tree was up. We're like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: got the dinner and we put the kids down. We
Speaker 1: can have a fire going, the trees up, decorations, all
Speaker 1: the lights off, just the twinkle lights that are on
Speaker 1: the tree in the garland and all that stuff, and
Speaker 1: we'll watch movie. I'm like, oh my god, it's the
Speaker 1: perfect night. We'll give each other for massages. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: it was like leading up to it, like we're all
Speaker 1: just like super cute and kissy and and then we
Speaker 1: get on the couch and Mike goes so I think
Speaker 1: I want to buy and then says like an amount
Speaker 1: of money for about something, and I get very stressed.
Speaker 1: About money, and I think what made me really annoyed
Speaker 1: was that I'm like, now, right now, you have to
Speaker 1: talk about this, like right before we're about to have
Speaker 1: really sweet I literally have the movie keyed up on
Speaker 1: the TV. All I have I haven't paused at the
Speaker 1: very beginning. All I have to do is push the
Speaker 1: button to play it, pause it. And I was like,
Speaker 1: so I want to buy something for somebody. It was
Speaker 1: just a lot of money, and you know, again, I
Speaker 1: get real anxiety around money and talking about it. And
Speaker 1: I just really didn't like the timing in which he
Speaker 1: brought it up. Which I'll say I'm big on that
Speaker 1: because I've given that to Janna Bunch where she'll it's
Speaker 1: like we've talked about on here before when we're getting
Speaker 1: ready for a date night and Janna is like, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be great for the next date night? Is we
Speaker 1: do something really fancy? I'm like, really, right now, before
Speaker 1: we go on this date night, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about how much better the next one could be. I'm like,
Speaker 1: the timing is just terrible, and my timing was terrible
Speaker 1: on Saturday, awful. All we started to do what we
Speaker 1: usually do, which is where we like dance and we
Speaker 1: go around in a circle. But then I feel like
Speaker 1: it was our first example of how we were able
Speaker 1: to take a breath, try to restart, I have a
Speaker 1: healthy conversation. And I think it's we basically practiced what
Speaker 1: we preach in the book. We actually did it and
Speaker 1: it was fantastic. And I was like, all right, Like
Speaker 1: it wasn't seamless, it wasn't perfect, but we stayed in it.
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that I want to asterix
Speaker 1: is that we stayed in it. Because there was a
Speaker 1: point where I'm like, oh god, here it goes. Here's
Speaker 1: where Mike's gonna start getting loud, start getting defensive. I
Speaker 1: saw your shield and I was like, this is where
Speaker 1: he gets up, goes in the room. And then we
Speaker 1: sleep in sud bedrooms and I like, saw you change
Speaker 1: it and it was really cool to see. So I
Speaker 1: just think with the season, you know, just to remember
Speaker 1: that your spouse is your friend. And I think it's
Speaker 1: something that you learned about because um, there was a
Speaker 1: shortage in the nursery at church and I volunteer for
Speaker 1: the kids nursery and I wasn't able to watch church. Um,
Speaker 1: when we normally do but Mike got to and so
Speaker 1: the pastor was talking about friends, right, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you remind me of that. You know, he was, Um,
Speaker 1: he was talking about friends and like right now, for
Speaker 1: the month of December, they're doing at our church cross
Speaker 1: Point here in Nashville. Um, they're talking about what the
Speaker 1: world needs now. And so every weekend, UM, it's a
Speaker 1: different theme on like what the world needs now. And
Speaker 1: you know the one this past weekend was kindness. Um,
Speaker 1: two weeks ago it was goodness. And and you know,
Speaker 1: he was talking about the difference between the two. And
Speaker 1: you know, goodness is is like your moral belief, like
Speaker 1: is who you are. Kindness are things that you do
Speaker 1: like acts of kindness. Right, that's why that's a that's
Speaker 1: a phrase. And he was talking about things and basically
Speaker 1: what there's there's so many ways that people can be incompatible, right,
Speaker 1: And he was connecting it back to where if you're
Speaker 1: a believer in a higher power, and especially if you
Speaker 1: believe in the same higher power. He's like, that's all
Speaker 1: the compatibility that you need to connect with somebody else.
Speaker 1: They don't have to do the same thing as you,
Speaker 1: they don't have to look the same as you. They
Speaker 1: don't have to sound the same as you. They don't
Speaker 1: have to be like you. They can be completely different
Speaker 1: in so many ways. But the ultimate, you know, nucleus
Speaker 1: of the connection with somebody else is is that's simple.
Speaker 1: It can be your higher power. And he was talking
Speaker 1: about his seven year old and how they're just on
Speaker 1: a vacation or whatever, and his seven year old was,
Speaker 1: you know, making all these friends. He's like, gosh, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm I'm a I'm an adult, my thirties, Like,
Speaker 1: it's so hard to make friends at times. He's like
Speaker 1: my daughter, you know, she's just like the way she
Speaker 1: looks at other kids. She's like, oh, year seven, I'm seven,
Speaker 1: you're human. I'm a human. Cool, let's do this and
Speaker 1: it can be that easy. Granted, we're drawn to people
Speaker 1: that may obviously do the same things we do and
Speaker 1: unfortunately maybe look the same as we do or are
Speaker 1: very similar to us. But it was just such a
Speaker 1: cool message in the times like this, where it's like, man,
Speaker 1: if we can all just open our hearts to people
Speaker 1: who just have similar beliefs in a higher power and
Speaker 1: that kind of connectedness and doesn't have to be political,
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be anything else. What do you
Speaker 1: say about the wives too? Like the relational aspect of it,
Speaker 1: like your friends, Remember how you said, like who can
Speaker 1: hurt you the most out of your friends? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: my wife? He you know, our pastors talking about you know,
Speaker 1: his therapist or his counselor that he sees, and they
Speaker 1: are on this friend's topic and his counts are asked him.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, who in your life is close
Speaker 1: enough to you that can hurt you? And he's thinking
Speaker 1: and thinking, thinking, He's like the only person I could
Speaker 1: think of was my wife m hm. And he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, we got some work to do around that.
Speaker 1: Like why he you know, he starts going into like
Speaker 1: why he doesn't let other people in, why he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the friends that I know him well enough or
Speaker 1: he's let in well enough to hurt them to hurt him.
Speaker 1: And it's such a such a good way to think
Speaker 1: about it, because if you think about all the friends
Speaker 1: or acquaintances you have, how many of those people could
Speaker 1: do some something that could truly like harm you emotionally.
Speaker 1: You know. It's just a good way to kind of
Speaker 1: judge your friendship or rate your friendship and also you know,
Speaker 1: introspectively looking into with your spouse, you know, and treating
Speaker 1: them as a friend and remembering that. Um, well, hey,
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing. B I love you're my friend.
Speaker 1: You're my friend. Bro. Speaking of friends, Um, Jenny and
Speaker 1: Tori spelling on the show. Hi, ladies, thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on wind Down. You guys, look, I'm in pjs and
Speaker 1: we have no makeup on apologies. You guys look gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Where are you? Um, We're in Nashville. That that's why
Speaker 1: you look so Realixed want to be there. Um okay,
Speaker 1: So you guys have the nine O two one o
Speaker 1: MG podcast, which, by the way, is so genius because
Speaker 1: as a nine O two and O lover, like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to listen to this podcast now because
Speaker 1: I want to know all the details and the like
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes and you know, just all of it.
Speaker 1: How is it? How is it reliving that? So you
Speaker 1: guys are rewatching the series, correct, and then you podcast
Speaker 1: about it. We've never watched it together. Oh, I've never
Speaker 1: really even sat down the show because you know, when
Speaker 1: you're making a show like that, you're really caught up.
Speaker 1: And then it was like thirty years ago, So if
Speaker 1: I did watch it, I've probably forgotten about it by now.
Speaker 1: But so it's nice to go back and watch it.
Speaker 1: And I'm literally watching it like a fan, like what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen? Now? I can't really Brandon so hot? And look,
Speaker 1: I love the whole thing. Now you know what the
Speaker 1: crease was all about? You get it? Apparently thirty years later, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we get it. It all makes sense. How many times
Speaker 1: I have to ask this because I feel like every
Speaker 1: anyone that sees a picture of themselves even five years ago,
Speaker 1: if they're like, oh my gosh, why did I wear that?
Speaker 1: Or why did I have my hair like that? How
Speaker 1: does it feel seeing you guys like thirty years ago
Speaker 1: being like that was the fashion? Or like how many
Speaker 1: times does that happen? Well? Were living in the fashion
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, we're back in the nineties, but all
Speaker 1: we're kind of trying to get back into the nineties though,
Speaker 1: I think to her, I think we need to like
Speaker 1: let the kids bring back the nineties and we'll watch
Speaker 1: from the talking directly to me. Right now, I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here in a baby and all dress. Yea ye, have
Speaker 1: my youth, no, but it's super cringe e to sit
Speaker 1: to watch, but also like I'm so appreciative of how
Speaker 1: cute I used to be and like how young I was,
Speaker 1: and like, oh my god, everybody looks so amazing and
Speaker 1: now like I know what we all look like now.
Speaker 1: It's obviously we're older, but it's it's cool to watch it.
Speaker 1: It's hard though you look back and you're like, why
Speaker 1: did I have worries then? Why? Like I wish and
Speaker 1: you know, they say, you know life is wasted on
Speaker 1: the youth, but uh, you know, I wish I could
Speaker 1: tell my younger self like don't worry, like everything's eats.
Speaker 1: Like I look at that young girl and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: she's so cute. She had all together, and off camera,
Speaker 1: I was just always so like I don't look good.
Speaker 1: I was so worried. And it's like I wish oftendence.
Speaker 1: Then I don't need it now. No, it's so true,
Speaker 1: like I know awesome, I know I'm beautiful now that's
Speaker 1: very true. Um, Tory, I have a question about So
Speaker 1: when I first moved to l A, one of my
Speaker 1: very first projects actually tested in front of your dad,
Speaker 1: and I just remember being like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: I mean he's he he isn't was a legend, and
Speaker 1: you know, being the creator's daughter was that. Did you
Speaker 1: ever feel like certain people were trying to be your
Speaker 1: friend because they wanted to maybe be longer on the
Speaker 1: show or get on the show, Like how did you
Speaker 1: deal with that? No, it was the hardest part of
Speaker 1: being the creator's daughter was in my own head. I
Speaker 1: couldn't get past it. I was just like, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna like me because I'm the producer's daughter. I felt
Speaker 1: like I had to go overboard like Jen No, was
Speaker 1: like this was only in the beginning because I'm notorious sleep,
Speaker 1: Like this is how I wanted to fit in. I
Speaker 1: had to set like an hour early every single day
Speaker 1: because I was like, if anything goes wrong, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, oh, of course she's this because she's the
Speaker 1: producer's daughter. She feels the titled like went the opposite.
Speaker 1: But I was never treated that way from jump with
Speaker 1: any of the cast. They immediately embraced me, so it
Speaker 1: was just me and then with the characters too, I
Speaker 1: mean and just obviously there was drama in any big
Speaker 1: set um. When did you guys kind of go you
Speaker 1: know what were It's these many years past, like why
Speaker 1: why do we still have this animosity towards each other?
Speaker 1: Was there like that moment that we're like, why are
Speaker 1: we still fighting or having these feelings towards each other?
Speaker 1: Or was it just time? I don't think there was
Speaker 1: hard fighting or animosity is Yeah, I think we've always
Speaker 1: been close, even from when we stopped filming. There was
Speaker 1: never a period of time where any of us were
Speaker 1: strange from one another or not talking or mad at
Speaker 1: We were family, were like brothers and sisters and yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we might not see each other for months
Speaker 1: or years or whatever it is, but we all know
Speaker 1: that we're right there for each other whenever we need them,
Speaker 1: and like I would do anything for one of them,
Speaker 1: you know. And when we did the h and I
Speaker 1: Know two and our last summer, Jen and I created
Speaker 1: that and we got everyone together and it was so
Speaker 1: crazy to have our our family back together. And so
Speaker 1: often because people will say, like, I can't believe the
Speaker 1: show only on one season it didn't go and I'm
Speaker 1: like I still think about it. I'm like, what was
Speaker 1: the purpose? Why didn't? And I was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: know what, as much as we wanted to bring that
Speaker 1: back for the fans maybe that that was for us,
Speaker 1: like it was for us to be back together. And
Speaker 1: that's what my my newest takeaway from that situation, because
Speaker 1: it's still a bummer. I didn't go forward, oh, but
Speaker 1: it kind of brought us full circle with everybody, and
Speaker 1: we had one summer where we realized, like, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't go home again. And these are truly my
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters for life because being in that environment,
Speaker 1: we all regressed back to our like teen selves, like
Speaker 1: the very first day, like it's crazy, and you know,
Speaker 1: we picked right back up where we left off. What
Speaker 1: a cool experience for y'all. And on that topic of
Speaker 1: like you know, friends and family and everything, obviously we
Speaker 1: just had Thanksgiving and you know, Jane and I were
Speaker 1: just talking before y'all came on and we ended up
Speaker 1: just being us. So it's just me, jan and and
Speaker 1: our two kids, and um, you know, we didn't have
Speaker 1: family in town, we didn't go see friends that we're
Speaker 1: gonna do, and we realized it was one of our
Speaker 1: most enjoyable Thanksgivings to date because they're like it's just us,
Speaker 1: Like there's no small talk, there's no entertaining, there's not
Speaker 1: a million dishes to clean and everything. So we want
Speaker 1: to know, Hey, how y'all spent your Thanksgivings? And b
Speaker 1: would you rather spend it with friends or family? Tough question?
Speaker 1: I know we last we like to spend Thanksgiving to
Speaker 1: holidays together. My last year, Tor and her entire brood
Speaker 1: came over to our I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: It takes like a mini van a giant van to
Speaker 1: get you all here, but um yeah, we all we
Speaker 1: it together and it was so fun last year and
Speaker 1: we I really missed having them here this year, but
Speaker 1: you're right it was. There was something really comforting and
Speaker 1: nice about it just being us and there was no
Speaker 1: pressure and we were literally like cooking and then laying
Speaker 1: around and thinking, wait, should I change my clothes for dinner?
Speaker 1: Should I do I brush my hair? Or what what
Speaker 1: do you guys want me to do? But we were
Speaker 1: just like comfortable all day and I love it same
Speaker 1: We missed being with you guys, but yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just my husband's filming out of town, so it was
Speaker 1: just me and the five kids and we had fun though,
Speaker 1: like because the pressure was off like usually by the way,
Speaker 1: like my green bean bundles turned out better than ever
Speaker 1: this year. I know. I'm telling you because it's usually
Speaker 1: the pressure of like, hurry, get them together, half baked
Speaker 1: and then brought to her house and then had to
Speaker 1: cook more and it didn't come out right. And this
Speaker 1: time I was like, there was no pressure and everything
Speaker 1: turned out perfect. And of course you know that always happens.
Speaker 1: It's just us, no pressure and it was the best ever.
Speaker 1: But next year, I'm perfecting those bundles here. I would
Speaker 1: like to have a bundle is fly on the wall
Speaker 1: for that. For y'all's claims getting together, because I mean,
Speaker 1: between y'all's kids, you have eight kids range from what
Speaker 1: to three? I mean, you guys have the whole scale there.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of different developmental things happening.
Speaker 1: All that's crazy. Our children spanned two decades. That's insane.
Speaker 1: Speaking at speaking of no no to another. I think
Speaker 1: you guys talked about it on your podcast, but obviously
Speaker 1: Donna you said you and David are like happy and
Speaker 1: have kids. And then I when I was reading the
Speaker 1: interview or like the transcripts from your podcast, you said, Um, Jenny,
Speaker 1: you said that Kelly was probably single, and it broke
Speaker 1: my heart. I was like, no, I can't, like no,
Speaker 1: And now I feel like I have to like rewatch
Speaker 1: it to understand like what went wrong and like why,
Speaker 1: like just like it made men really sad. I just
Speaker 1: made that up. But but I think I like to
Speaker 1: think of her as like a super strong independent woman
Speaker 1: that doesn't need a man. So that's kind of probably
Speaker 1: why I said, that's so funny. Do you have anything
Speaker 1: like from looking back, like when you're rewatching things that
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I don't. I don't think people should
Speaker 1: ever live with regrets or anything like that, But is
Speaker 1: there something from the show that you were like, wow,
Speaker 1: like this is I wish I would have, you know, um,
Speaker 1: taken it in more or appreciated the moment that we
Speaker 1: were in or because I know, like filming, when you're younger,
Speaker 1: you're probably just like you don't realize like everything happening. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're young, you don't appreciate everything. And
Speaker 1: now looking back, for sure, I wish that I had
Speaker 1: taken it more in and appreciated it more and really
Speaker 1: acknowledged how just lucky we were I was and um,
Speaker 1: And also I would have probably held those relationships a
Speaker 1: little bit closer like the like my relationship with Shannon,
Speaker 1: or my relationship with Brian, or you know, just different
Speaker 1: people too. Really just be more open and sort of
Speaker 1: accepting of those relationships instead of finding times when we
Speaker 1: could have conflict or you know, looking at the negatives
Speaker 1: of things instead just really being appreciative of it all.
Speaker 1: Because like that, it comes and goes and then you're
Speaker 1: onto the next thing. You know, how is it for
Speaker 1: both of you with y'all's kids, Because I'm always curious, um,
Speaker 1: you know, with people of such notoriety or that have
Speaker 1: had success in such a difficult business, right everyone, And
Speaker 1: like you just touched on Jenny, like it takes luck
Speaker 1: to write to an extent? Uh, Like, are any of
Speaker 1: your kids showing interest in getting into the entertainment field?
Speaker 1: And how is that as a parent knowing being like
Speaker 1: having gone through it, knowing that it takes more than
Speaker 1: just skill and all this. It takes the stars aligning
Speaker 1: in the right place right time. You know, how how
Speaker 1: are you dealing with that as parents? Do you have
Speaker 1: any kids that are are there any of the kids
Speaker 1: talking about wanting to be actors or anything like that?
Speaker 1: Tour because your kids just a little kind of Jolie
Speaker 1: are five year old, like she when she came to
Speaker 1: visit me on set, I was filming something a few
Speaker 1: months ago, and she's like, I want to be an actress.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, cute because the next day she wants
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, a veterinary early doctor or something.
Speaker 1: So I think she's too young to understand now, But
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would say. A couple of
Speaker 1: my kids, like Liam, my oldest, who's thirteen. Definitely, he's
Speaker 1: the one that has consistently shown interest in school. He
Speaker 1: does the plays and the musicals and stuff so well
Speaker 1: when there was school, um, not virtual, good old days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for me, I have my oldest star at twenty three,
Speaker 1: she she was at n y U studying theater. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she wants to be in the business, and um, she's
Speaker 1: living in New York right now, paying her dudes, living
Speaker 1: on her own dime and just really thinking like this
Speaker 1: is how I have to do it. I have to
Speaker 1: do it on my own, and I want to have
Speaker 1: merit behind me, not just luck, not just my parents
Speaker 1: are famous, but it's in her genes and I really
Speaker 1: do feel like she kind of feels like that's what
Speaker 1: she's supposed to do first, you know, like so, but
Speaker 1: we encourage them to do anything and everything obviously, But
Speaker 1: what I do I want in my heart for them
Speaker 1: to be in the industry. No, I do not, I
Speaker 1: really don't. I feel like, yeah, it's a great life
Speaker 1: if you are lucky and if you know how to
Speaker 1: sustain it and make it a lifelong business. But if
Speaker 1: it's just a you know, you know, if you're into
Speaker 1: famous or if you're TikTok famous or whatever it is
Speaker 1: now these days, like that's you're never gonna be able
Speaker 1: to survive of off that kind of fame. So if anything,
Speaker 1: I want them to, yeah, put in the work, if
Speaker 1: they go into the business and know what their value is,
Speaker 1: because you have to know what your value is in
Speaker 1: this business where you just get taken advantage of and
Speaker 1: shoot up and spit out and just always constantly feeling
Speaker 1: like you're just not good enough. You know, you get
Speaker 1: told no more than you get told yeah. So it's
Speaker 1: just like, is there one role that you guys haven't
Speaker 1: played that you want to play? Like Mike Michael is
Speaker 1: not an actor who wants to play a what do
Speaker 1: you want to play? You want to be in like
Speaker 1: a war movie, either that on both ends of the spectrum.
Speaker 1: I could do that, or I could do like The
Speaker 1: Greatest Showman even one. Yeah, we want to do a
Speaker 1: remake of our favorite movie, of which one we love comedy,
Speaker 1: so we would we would love to continue doing comedy together.
Speaker 1: Our favorite movie is um Death Becomes Her. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: so good that was with them? Uh cuts it Haunt? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Meryl Street, Oh that's have you seen that? Or that
Speaker 1: she gets a big hole in her stomach? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's such a good movie. It's a little before your time, honey.
Speaker 1: We always see a mix between that and Gray Gardens. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have our Great Gardens, our Fate and Death Becomes Her.
Speaker 1: Just are you talking about movies? We want to do
Speaker 1: our our actual lives. It's starting to blur, like everything
Speaker 1: we do starts to blur, whether it's work or life,
Speaker 1: because it all goes together hand in hand, which is nice. Like,
Speaker 1: there's no better job than getting to work with your
Speaker 1: best friends. So I'm sure it doesn't even feel like
Speaker 1: work when you guys are able to work together. It's
Speaker 1: most of the time, not most of the time. So
Speaker 1: what what what days does your Nino two and o
Speaker 1: MG podcast come out Monday's. Oh Monday's yea amazing. So
Speaker 1: when you're listening to wind down, make sure you'll tune
Speaker 1: into nine O two one o MG, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm super pumped now to go back, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make you watch it because there's so like, there's so
Speaker 1: much I have to teach you about it, about life,
Speaker 1: about life and just everything. I picked a younger man,
Speaker 1: so he's a little before two obviously knows about it.
Speaker 1: How old are you? I'll be thirty four in a
Speaker 1: couple of months. You are young? Yeah, my little pen
Speaker 1: I likes to say we're different generations. You're not a
Speaker 1: different generation. Thank you, thank you, Jenny, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: She talks to me like I'm ten years younger than
Speaker 1: like three years is not exactly four right now? Okay, um,
Speaker 1: But I love you, ladies, and just thank you for
Speaker 1: just being awesome and and for you know, spilling the
Speaker 1: tea and the you know, all the goodness on your podcast.
Speaker 1: And I'm excited to listen to it too because I
Speaker 1: want to hear all about Brandon and Kelly and just
Speaker 1: all of it. So, but thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: You guys, out there. We'll have to visit you in
Speaker 1: Nashville someday anytime. Right now, So you guys are it's
Speaker 1: it's frost. It's like it's flurrying. We're just looking out
Speaker 1: our window and yeah, but we love you guys. Stay
Speaker 1: safe in l A. Please you guys too. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: I had their barbies. I'm so glad I didn't tell
Speaker 1: them that, but I mean, I I know Joke had
Speaker 1: the barbies of the nine o two and oh, it's
Speaker 1: just crazy, you know, gonna Kelly all of that when
Speaker 1: you see when you know, we've been able to talk
Speaker 1: to a lot of people on this show and meet
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and it's been so much fun.
Speaker 1: And it's just you take yourself back to your childhood self,
Speaker 1: even though they were basically kids. I mean they're in there,
Speaker 1: you know, young twenties. Um. But it's just crazy how
Speaker 1: things come full circle and now we're like talking to
Speaker 1: people like that, where as a kid in your mind,
Speaker 1: they're these larger than life people. Yeah. No, I mean
Speaker 1: I totally hear what you're saying. It's one of those
Speaker 1: things where like watching it and making out with my
Speaker 1: hand the kid, I never think that I'd be talking
Speaker 1: to thanks for clarifying whatever I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd be talking to freaking Jenny Garth. Yeah, it's just cool.
Speaker 1: You just realized how everyone is just a normal person
Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: just stars. They're just like us, and that's just what
Speaker 1: we want to, you know, leave you'all with going into
Speaker 1: the rest of this holiday season. Man, it's just we're
Speaker 1: all equal, we're all friends. Friends. Just don't small talk
Speaker 1: to me when you meet me, tell me like about
Speaker 1: your deepest, darkest and then I'll be your best. Don't
Speaker 1: small talk to me. People are probably already nervous coming
Speaker 1: up to you. No, that's like my favorite. Like we
Speaker 1: had Hijiana. I'm a big fan. My dad used to
Speaker 1: beat me. Oh my god, Michael, it's not funny, you know,
Speaker 1: like come on, you know, like when it's if you
Speaker 1: all ever see us out, Like we were just got
Speaker 1: a Christmas tree and someone said they read our book
Speaker 1: and it was like we talked about it the whole
Speaker 1: right time, Like it was so cool. Us we like
Speaker 1: are obsessed with that. I just mean, like, you know, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just joking with Okay, God, you always make me
Speaker 1: I hate cat people like that was the best. Oh goodness, gracious, UM,
Speaker 1: I love you guys, and UM, don't forget when you're
Speaker 1: sending out your packages to use FedEx because they're awesome.
Speaker 1: Actually just shipped out some more Jolian Jason because I
Speaker 1: bought everybody Julian Jays p J, and I just sent
Speaker 1: our niece and nephews um their presence Federshal the other day.
Speaker 1: So I think we're all set um and be friends.
Speaker 1: Let's love each other and have a great holiday season. Bye.