Speaker 1: What's that at the bed.
Speaker 2: It's kooky and kooky.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, hey, I goes said, Hi.
Speaker 1: Ross dress, Hey boo, it's me Ros dress for last.
Speaker 1: And I am so excited because today we have another
Speaker 1: listener episode, Quarantine Edition. We have got incredible stories. We've
Speaker 1: got Molly telling a story that involves dogs and a
Speaker 1: very fast running ghost. We've got Moe who is a
Speaker 1: witch and has all kinds of stories. We've got Jeremy
Speaker 1: that has one of the most beautiful but kind of
Speaker 1: creepy ghost stories I've ever heard. That's just an adorable
Speaker 1: love story at the same time. And Emily, who you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the one that can diagnose somebody
Speaker 1: as a psychic, but Emily has some stories that have
Speaker 1: some sort of Clare Sentient kind of vibes to them.
Speaker 1: Claire Sentient. That's a good drag name. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get on with the show.
Speaker 3: There's a ghost in my house.
Speaker 1: Hello, Molly, Hi Rides. Where are you, Molly?
Speaker 3: I am in Minsicola, Florida.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I hope you're staying out of those beaches, you know.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 3: I'm here at home almost all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great to hear. Well, speaking of being at home,
Speaker 1: you told me that you have a story about house sitting, which.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done it.
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of house sitting in my day,
Speaker 1: and I am I mean, I'm always house sitting for
Speaker 1: houses that are bigger than the one that I live in.
Speaker 1: So it always just makes me think of how many
Speaker 1: rooms a ghost could be in. So I just am
Speaker 1: full of anxiety every time I'm house sitting. So please
Speaker 1: scare me so that I'll never want to do it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have not house that since then.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I haven't been asked.
Speaker 3: You know, I was a college student then. It was about.
Speaker 5: I think about twelve.
Speaker 3: Years ago, so it was it was a little while ago.
Speaker 3: I'm thirty two now, so I was still in college
Speaker 3: and I'm a violinist, and at that time, I was
Speaker 3: teaching lessons just on the side, you know, getting through college.
Speaker 3: And there was this really really sweet lady that had
Speaker 3: tigned up to take lessons with me, and she was,
Speaker 3: you know, about my mom's age, and she wanted to
Speaker 3: start learning. So she was an adult beginner, which I
Speaker 3: really love, and you know, She was a great student.
Speaker 3: She practiced and you know, was making good progress. But
Speaker 3: she had had some trauma in her life because she
Speaker 3: had a daughter who was really close to my age,
Speaker 3: who had passed away like a year before that. So
Speaker 3: when she was in lessons with me, we spent a
Speaker 3: lot of time talking. And at first I kind of
Speaker 3: felt a little uncomfortable with that because it's not usually
Speaker 3: the dynamic, you know, during a violin lesson. But she was,
Speaker 3: you know, an adult beginner. I think we're just a
Speaker 3: little bit different. She was really really sweet, and we
Speaker 3: kind of bonded, and as we got to know each other,
Speaker 3: I kind of grew to assume that I might remind
Speaker 3: her of her daughter a little bit. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: may have felt a little conflicted about that, But she
Speaker 3: was a really sweet lady and we had a good
Speaker 3: time and lessons together. She after she had been taking
Speaker 3: for a few months, she said that her husband and
Speaker 3: her were trying to sell their house. He was a
Speaker 3: maybe chaplain, so he had gotten a position elsewhere in
Speaker 3: this state and had to go ahead and move to
Speaker 3: start that position. So she was hanging out here in town.
Speaker 4: In their house by herself.
Speaker 3: And I actually think that's one of the reasons she
Speaker 3: started lessons because she was kind of bored and probably
Speaker 3: a little bit lonely. But she asked me to houseit
Speaker 3: her house. Her house was in like this really nice
Speaker 3: neighborhood right by the college I was attending, and she
Speaker 3: offered me twenty five dollars a day for like one
Speaker 3: or two weeks each time, and she had a couple
Speaker 3: of really sweet dogs. So it was, you know, so like, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course I love to and she was supper sweet
Speaker 3: and stopped like asked me what my favorite foods were,
Speaker 3: and stopped the fridge and pantry and it was like
Speaker 3: this is freaking awesome, and so yeah, the first time
Speaker 3: that I went shit, I was trying to think what
Speaker 3: kind of dogs they were. I knew one was an
Speaker 3: Airdale like that, you know, like the big fluffy, kind
Speaker 3: of curly doggies. Oh yeah, yeah, and I can't I
Speaker 3: just can't remember what the other dogs like. But they
Speaker 3: were both big and old and it was really sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so most of what I did there was taking care
Speaker 3: of them, right, So the first time that I went
Speaker 3: over to house that everything was cool, Like I think
Speaker 3: it was a week that time. You know, I was
Speaker 3: just doing a lot of homework and practicing and playing
Speaker 3: with the dogs and going to school and like it
Speaker 3: was all good and it was fine, and she paid
Speaker 3: me at the end and that was great, and I
Speaker 3: was like, I hope she asked me to do that again,
Speaker 3: and she did, so I was like cool. So then
Speaker 3: the second time, and I don't think I said this yet,
Speaker 3: but this was a big house. It was a five bedroom,
Speaker 3: three bath house, two stories, and it was you know,
Speaker 3: like on a golf course, you know, I kind of
Speaker 3: like nice new build kind of situations. I think the
Speaker 3: house was built in the nineties, so it's not like,
Speaker 3: you know, this is like some old Victorian, creepy, creaky
Speaker 3: kind of house. It was just kind of a normal
Speaker 3: New Florida big house. I guess this is the best
Speaker 3: thing I can just credit. But anyway, the second time,
Speaker 3: the second time I went over there, you know, I
Speaker 3: had my own little guest room, which was upstairs. There's
Speaker 3: one bedroom downstairs and then the rest were upstairs. And
Speaker 3: she just kept all the other doors closed. And I
Speaker 3: didn't want I didn't want to be a snoop. Like
Speaker 3: I was like, maybe she has like a nanny cam,
Speaker 3: like I don't want her to like reveal the footage
Speaker 3: or so I was paranoid. I didn't want to look
Speaker 3: in the other I was definitely curious, but I was
Speaker 3: able not to look in them. But I had my
Speaker 3: bedroom upstairs, and then a bathroom right across the hall,
Speaker 3: and there was bedrooms to the right and to the left,
Speaker 3: and another one down closer to this stailway. So I'm
Speaker 3: falling asleep at night, and I definitely had vibes, you know,
Speaker 3: but I you know, I was twenty. I kind of
Speaker 3: had a whole lot of creepy things happened to me
Speaker 3: until this point. There are a couple of little things
Speaker 3: when I was a kid that I look back on
Speaker 3: now and think are really weird. But at this point,
Speaker 3: I wasn't like, oh, I hope this host is in holler,
Speaker 3: Like I kind of wasn't thinking about it. I was.
Speaker 3: I was creeped out a little bit just being alone
Speaker 3: in this big house. So I would leave the TD
Speaker 3: on when I was going to sleep, just to you know,
Speaker 3: have like something going on. I guess. So I'm falling asleep,
Speaker 3: it's like right at that point where I'm probably about
Speaker 3: to go to sleep, and I hear there's this closet
Speaker 3: next to my bed, and I hear this big bank
Speaker 3: like it sounded like something falling and hitting the back
Speaker 3: of the door of the closet. So you know, I
Speaker 3: kind of jump up in bed and I'm like, look
Speaker 3: like to do because I was just falling asleep. And
Speaker 3: you know, I took that minute of like do I
Speaker 3: what do I do?
Speaker 5: Am I so scared?
Speaker 3: And it took a deep breath and opened the turn
Speaker 3: on the line, opened the closet door, and there was
Speaker 3: straight up nothing in there. It was just like a
Speaker 3: couple of pillows up on a shelf toward the back
Speaker 3: of the closet, otherwise totally empty, nothing in there at all.
Speaker 3: And I even took my hands and slapped the back
Speaker 3: of the door to try to recreate the sound, and
Speaker 3: it sounded just like what I heard.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so bumps.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I just was like, you know, I still have
Speaker 3: to be here for a few days. Maybe it was
Speaker 3: the ice maker downstairs, like whatever, I just have to
Speaker 3: It's probably fine. I was falling asleep. Maybe it was
Speaker 3: on the TV. I don't know. I was trying to
Speaker 3: rationalize it and just get through. So that was uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: but it didn't bother me too much by the time
Speaker 3: that I left. So then she asked me to how
Speaker 3: sit a third time.
Speaker 5: There are four times total.
Speaker 3: I probably should have cooled it after the third time,
Speaker 3: but the third time that she asked, I said yes again.
Speaker 3: And this is going to be I think for less
Speaker 3: than a week. It wasn't going to be very long.
Speaker 3: So everything's fine for a few days. Then again, I'm
Speaker 3: in the bedroom trying to fall asleep. TV is on.
Speaker 3: I'm getting sleepy, my eyes are closing and probably drifting off,
Speaker 3: and then I hear a huge sound that was in
Speaker 3: the room behind mine, like at the end of the hall, and.
Speaker 5: The sound was it was like somebody kicked over a
Speaker 5: bookcase full of books, and it was like a big
Speaker 5: like thud, and then like a tumbling kind of rumbling sound,
Speaker 5: like a bunch of stuff was just going everywhere.
Speaker 1: Like a.
Speaker 3: And so that really freaked me out. I remember it
Speaker 3: just took a long time to kind of get up
Speaker 3: turn on a light, and I was like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I have to look in that room because it sounds
Speaker 3: like something to sell over.
Speaker 1: So but wait, where were the dogs at this point?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: So the dogs are not also not reacting at all.
Speaker 3: They sleep downstairs in the living room, and these dogs
Speaker 3: spark at everything, right, I mean every little thing, any
Speaker 3: little squirrel or bird outside, anybody walking by the house.
Speaker 3: They're going absolutely nuts. But when these two things happened
Speaker 3: with the closet and now with the bedroom in the
Speaker 3: middle of the night, they didn't do anything. They I
Speaker 3: just presumed that they were still asleep.
Speaker 1: I mean. But also, those dogs, they've been listening to
Speaker 1: a woman learn how to play violin for the past
Speaker 1: couple of months. They're probably a little desensitized to crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, and they were old, so maybe they
Speaker 3: were a little bit death and a little bit like
Speaker 3: everything sounds terrible in the douse. That's a good.
Speaker 1: Point when they see squirrels outside and they're going crazy
Speaker 1: because they want to be outside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, beginning violin is is not for the fate of heart,
Speaker 3: for sure, to listen to good grief. But yeah, the
Speaker 3: dogs didn't seem to notice at all. But I made
Speaker 3: my way into the hall and opened the door of
Speaker 3: the room that was behind mine, which was all the
Speaker 3: way at the end of the upstairs hall where I
Speaker 3: was staying. And first of all, I turn on the
Speaker 3: light and nothing is out of place at all. There's
Speaker 3: nothing that's fallen over. Everything is like immaculate. It's really clean.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff in there, but everything's in
Speaker 3: its place. And I start looking around and I realized,
Speaker 3: this is the room where she keeps all of this
Speaker 3: stuff that belongs to her daughter that had died recently,
Speaker 3: like toys and books and quilts and prom dresses, the
Speaker 3: guest book from her funeral, like notes from.
Speaker 4: Wow, all in there.
Speaker 3: And I even looked in the closet. I mean, nothing
Speaker 3: fell down. So I didn't feel great about that. But
Speaker 3: I had this thought like, well, maybe, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: her energy is like in her stuff. Maybe she's kind
Speaker 3: of here in some capacity, and I'm just a stranger
Speaker 3: in her house, Like maybe I was trying to, you know,
Speaker 3: make a noise too if I were her or something
Speaker 3: like that. So I just remember talking to her out loud.
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I'm cool, don't worry, I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to do anything weird, just house sitting for your mom.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm sorry you died. And I just kind of
Speaker 3: talked out loud like that. Anytime I felt peeped out
Speaker 3: for the rest of that time, and I guess I
Speaker 3: was kind of comforted by maybe the thought that it
Speaker 3: was her and you know, not like a demon or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So did it stop after that?
Speaker 3: No? Oh, okay. So once I had decided that that
Speaker 3: was probably her daughter, she asked me to.
Speaker 4: House it again and I said yes again, and this
Speaker 4: last time I I did not house it anymore after
Speaker 4: this time because the weirdest thing that I've ever experienced happened.
Speaker 3: So, just like the other times, everything was good for
Speaker 3: the last few days and then or the last the
Speaker 3: first few days I was there, and then the last
Speaker 3: night that I was to be house sitting, I was
Speaker 3: downstairs in the kitchen cooking some dinner and I heard
Speaker 3: the dogs from the other room barking, which was, you know, normal,
Speaker 3: They barked a lot. They usually wanted to go outside,
Speaker 3: so I, you know, reached the point where I could
Speaker 3: go in there and let them out. And I went
Speaker 3: to let them out, but they were not by the door.
Speaker 3: They were in like the front part of the living room,
Speaker 3: just kind of in the middle of the room, and
Speaker 3: I was like, you want to go out, and they didn't,
Speaker 3: So I just went back into the kitchen. And they
Speaker 3: kept barking, and they started to like snarl and just
Speaker 3: like get really agitated. And I'd go back in there
Speaker 3: and they were like jumping up at the ceiling, like
Speaker 3: pawing towards the ceiling, barking at the ceiling. So oh,
Speaker 3: it's always freaked me out to talk about. I you know,
Speaker 3: this house was in a pretty chill neighborhood. I don't
Speaker 3: think that there's any way somebody would be in the
Speaker 3: house without me knowing because of the dogs. You know,
Speaker 3: they would just absolutely, you know, just about knock me
Speaker 3: over every time I came into the garage. You know,
Speaker 3: they knew what was going on. And I did not
Speaker 3: think that there was like, you know, somebody had broken
Speaker 3: in or something like that. But as I was in
Speaker 3: there looking up at the ceilings, the dogs stop barking,
Speaker 3: and I hear footsteps upstairs. I guess where we were
Speaker 3: in the house would be that just to my left
Speaker 3: looking up would be like that room at the end
Speaker 3: of the hall where all of the daughter's things were,
Speaker 3: and it would do kind of a little rainbow shape
Speaker 3: and over to the top of the stairs which were
Speaker 3: to my right. And what I heard was very slow
Speaker 3: footsteps that went from that end of the hall to
Speaker 3: the other end of the hall where the staircase was,
Speaker 3: and then turning around and going back towards the room
Speaker 3: and back towards the staircase and back towards the room,
Speaker 3: and they got faster. It started off really slow, and
Speaker 3: then it got a little bit faster, kind of like
Speaker 3: normal walking speed. And then I'm just I'm just standing
Speaker 3: here like, oh, like this can't be real good.
Speaker 1: Did the dogs like go to the stairs or like
Speaker 1: what were the dogs doing at that point?
Speaker 3: The dogs that this point, we're standing right with me
Speaker 3: in the living room looking up following the sounds with
Speaker 3: their noses like just like me, just kind of like
Speaker 3: looking from one end of the ceiling to the other.
Speaker 3: They weren't even barking. It's like we were all just
Speaker 3: standing there listening to the ceiling. So it got so fast,
Speaker 3: like it was like a like a run, and then
Speaker 3: like a full sprint, and then like umly it got
Speaker 3: so fast that it was like no human like like back.
Speaker 3: And that's the second time I made that sound effect.
Speaker 3: But I guess it's my go to learning new things
Speaker 3: about myself every day in quarantine. But it's just I mean,
Speaker 3: like superhuman speeds back and forth, back and forth, back
Speaker 3: and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and then
Speaker 3: it just stopped, at which point I was so so
Speaker 3: freaked out, and I'm having this moment of like, this
Speaker 3: cannot be real because that is not possible. I know,
Speaker 3: there's no one in here, and what would even that
Speaker 3: even be, right? And yeah, like.
Speaker 1: If that was an intruder, they're not just gonna like
Speaker 1: sprint upstairs.
Speaker 3: No, And they would have had to walk past me
Speaker 3: in the kitchen even if they did, unless they had
Speaker 3: been hiding there. But you know, I was pretty certain
Speaker 3: that nobody was in the house. So I Keith in
Speaker 3: nine one one on my phone. It was just like
Speaker 3: a razor or something. I didn't you know, press like,
Speaker 3: you know, call, but I just had it ready to
Speaker 3: go just in case. I don't know if this is
Speaker 3: the right thing to do, but this is what I did.
Speaker 3: I put nine one one on the phone and I
Speaker 3: like forced the dogs to go upstairs in front of me,
Speaker 3: and we went upstairs and opened every single door and
Speaker 3: every looking in every closet, looked every corner of the
Speaker 3: upstairs and there, I mean, there was just nothing.
Speaker 1: Everything was normal, you were so brave.
Speaker 3: I right, I do. Looking back, I'm like, I don't
Speaker 3: know why or how I even did that? Really?
Speaker 1: So did you stay the night?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I didn't. I okay. So it was such a big house.
Speaker 3: There was an AC unit for upstairs and for downstairs,
Speaker 3: so I don't know. Maybe that's normal for two Philly houses.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 3: I live in small houses. But up the owner, the
Speaker 3: lady had told me, you know, when you leave the
Speaker 3: speed water the dogs, ut them out and turned the
Speaker 3: upstairs air to seventy five degrees and turned the downstairs
Speaker 3: air to seventy degrees. So I did that. I just
Speaker 3: kind of like wreathed myself through taking the dogs out,
Speaker 3: making sure they went to the bathroom, getting them food
Speaker 3: and water, and then I left, locked up and went
Speaker 3: to my boyfriend's house to the night. Who's down My
Speaker 3: husband and we were talking about it last night and
Speaker 3: I was like, did I even tell you what happened?
Speaker 3: And he was like, no, I have no memory of that.
Speaker 3: You were just kind of like I got a little
Speaker 3: freaked out. I couldn't. Could I come sleep over here tonight?
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 3: But the worst part is that when I woke up,
Speaker 3: you know, that was probably I think this happened around
Speaker 3: seven pm, and I was probably at his house by
Speaker 3: nine and I was back over at the other house
Speaker 3: by seven am to check on the dogs. And when
Speaker 3: I walked in, it was so hot and both of
Speaker 3: the AC units had been set to ninety degrees on heat.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, And I.
Speaker 3: Can't explain that. I just turned them back on to
Speaker 3: school at the you know, around seventy degrees. And it
Speaker 3: took a couple hours and it got a little cooler
Speaker 3: and the dogs were okay. And and did you.
Speaker 1: Ever talk to the woman about it?
Speaker 3: I didn't. And here's where I landed on that. You know,
Speaker 3: she did not say anything about anything weird happening when
Speaker 3: she asked me to house, did you know. And she
Speaker 3: was a very sensitive, kind of conservative lady. You know,
Speaker 3: they were a Christian family, and the house was actually
Speaker 3: owned by another Christian family, like a pastor of a
Speaker 3: really big church here. I don't know if they had
Speaker 3: it built, but he lived there for many years before then.
Speaker 3: I think is kind of weird. But I just figured,
Speaker 3: you know, either she would have known that there was
Speaker 3: something weird and didn't tell me because maybe she would
Speaker 3: be embarrassed or didn't want to scare me, or she
Speaker 3: didn't know that there was anything weird at all, and
Speaker 3: if I told her, maybe that would terrify her. You know,
Speaker 3: I just didn't feel like, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: I never die that like her daughter just died.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of hard to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I think she's a ghost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think she got really mad at me too.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I just wondered. I'm like, was that that
Speaker 3: ghost and did she get that or was it? I
Speaker 3: mean to me that felt really dark, Like that felt
Speaker 3: really scary and dark to back and have the heat on,
Speaker 3: and it was like a very intimidating experience. So I
Speaker 3: don't know if my narrative of it being her daughter
Speaker 3: worked anymore after that.
Speaker 8: You know, Moe, hey, Russ, how are you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm so good. You're like, you're in San Diego just
Speaker 1: like me right now.
Speaker 9: Yes, we're practically neighbors.
Speaker 1: Right Well, I you send me an email that fascinated me.
Speaker 1: So you're a witch and you've had all kinds of
Speaker 1: really interesting experiences. So I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 1: What is like your go to? Do you have like
Speaker 1: a go to story?
Speaker 6: I guess the go to would definitely be the one
Speaker 6: the hat Man.
Speaker 1: The hat Man was, Okay, what's this about. So I
Speaker 1: worked in.
Speaker 6: Pacific Beach about five I would say, about oh more
Speaker 6: than five. Dang, I'm old, maybe like eight years ago.
Speaker 6: I've lived in San Diego for about ten years, and
Speaker 6: so I worked. I was a prep cook, an overnight
Speaker 6: prep cook for a place in Pacific Beach, and so
Speaker 6: I'd go in at like ten PM and work till
Speaker 6: about three or four. And during this time, I was
Speaker 6: a student at San Diego State, so like I was
Speaker 6: tired all the time. I'd go to school and then
Speaker 6: i'd go there work at night, and then be doing
Speaker 6: the next the next thing. And so when i'd be there,
Speaker 6: I feel like I would be really vulnerable, and especially
Speaker 6: because I told you I'm a witch, so like I
Speaker 6: just was very vulnerable and open at the time. And
Speaker 6: so essentially there was I guess I think there was
Speaker 6: someone you had previously that was talking about shadow people
Speaker 6: in the hat Man entity. Yeah, so there, So essentially
Speaker 6: I was working. It started I would say like a
Speaker 6: few months into me doing overnights, and there was this
Speaker 6: essentially where I worked, I would i'd be facing a wall,
Speaker 6: and I would have music playing, and I'm not someone
Speaker 6: that gets really scared of this stuff, but I would
Speaker 6: feel this energy and out of the corner of my eye,
Speaker 6: like you know, like everyone says when they see shadow people,
Speaker 6: they see it out of the corner of their eyes. Well,
Speaker 6: I saw it out of the corner of my eyes.
Speaker 6: And normally for the way I handle stuff like that
Speaker 6: is I just acknowledge it and then I just keep
Speaker 6: going about. I feel like when things when you acknowledge it,
Speaker 6: but you acknowledge that you're not scared, they kind of
Speaker 6: leave you alone. That's kind of what I've experienced, and
Speaker 6: so I would let alone.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for like they're like they want you to
Speaker 1: be scared. You're like it's not working, and then they're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: finally are the next person.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're like girl by pretty much like.
Speaker 6: That's how I feel. And so I pretty much this
Speaker 6: thing was inside. It was I can make it out
Speaker 6: as like a tall I would say, like at least
Speaker 6: six or five, and it was like hovering kind of
Speaker 6: over not over me, but like to the side, and
Speaker 6: it was in a doorway and it was kind of
Speaker 6: like peeking at me.
Speaker 5: And I was.
Speaker 6: I look and for the first few times I saw,
Speaker 6: it would just kind of go away, and I didn't
Speaker 6: think much of it. But then it started, I think
Speaker 6: because I wasn't scared, it kind of stuck around. And
Speaker 6: so then there was one night where I was working
Speaker 6: and I would say it was about midnight, maybe close
Speaker 6: to one, like twelve thirty, and so the thing he
Speaker 6: well I call it, I say he because I saw
Speaker 6: it as masculine presenting, and so it had this big hat.
Speaker 6: It was like very well dressed, kind of like Harlie
Speaker 6: Chaplin almost, and I looked out of this, you know,
Speaker 6: looked at the corner, and then I was just like, okay,
Speaker 6: so you're back.
Speaker 9: And then.
Speaker 6: Kind of like it was, it would be like looking
Speaker 6: I would say, you could see a face, but like
Speaker 6: every time that I would look directly at it, it
Speaker 6: would disappear. But then when I would look away and
Speaker 6: I could see it again out of my peripherals, so it.
Speaker 1: Would show up.
Speaker 6: It was like almost an optical illusion almost, and so
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, this is definitely like more than
Speaker 6: just a shadow person shadow person, because I feel like
Speaker 6: those the shadow people, they're more scared of us.
Speaker 1: Whereas like this hat.
Speaker 6: Man thing, I think that they they're they're a little
Speaker 6: more evolved. I say, I think like higher in the
Speaker 6: food chain.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 6: It kind of looked like it wasn't going away, and
Speaker 6: then so my heart kind of sank a little bit
Speaker 6: because I was like, Okay, I'm about to have this
Speaker 6: like mental conversation with this thing, because that's kind of
Speaker 6: how I would talk to energy when I was actively
Speaker 6: practicing a lot of witchcraft, because I would say, right now,
Speaker 6: I'm non practicing because I'm really busy with work and stuff.
Speaker 6: But so at the time I was practicing, and so
Speaker 6: essentially kept saying, oh, what's your name, Like what kind
Speaker 6: of witchcraft do you practice? And do you want to
Speaker 6: you want to do stuff with me? And you know,
Speaker 6: kind of asking more questions, and I would just say no, no,
Speaker 6: thank you. I appreciate it, but no thanks, I respect you,
Speaker 6: I respectfully decline, and I go about my work. And
Speaker 6: so it would go away. But then it started becoming
Speaker 6: like every night it would show up and it would
Speaker 6: just keep asking me, like like a broken record, and
Speaker 6: so then I would I would I didn't my coworkers.
Speaker 6: I never really like told them much about the stuff
Speaker 6: because I feel like there's a certain connotation with with
Speaker 6: being a witch, and so I would I would I
Speaker 6: would just tell them, oh, hey, like do you do
Speaker 6: you like ever feel scared here at night or do
Speaker 6: you like feel things?
Speaker 9: And they were like, uh sometimes.
Speaker 6: And you know, I was a young there's this I
Speaker 6: worked with this younger couple that also worked at night,
Speaker 6: but not never at the same time as me, and
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, I feel like I feel uneasy.
Speaker 6: There's this guy. Like I kind of led into a
Speaker 6: conversation pretty much asked them like do you guys see
Speaker 6: like a hat shadow person or a person like with
Speaker 6: the hat and they were like, oh my god, have
Speaker 6: you ever heard of the hat Man entity? Or have
Speaker 6: you ever heard of shadow people? And so I like,
Speaker 6: I knew of shadow people, but I've never heard of
Speaker 6: the hat man. And so they were like, yeah, the
Speaker 6: shat the hat Man entity, he like he's pretty much
Speaker 6: like crazy. You can look him up on YouTube. And
Speaker 6: so essentially, like after that, I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 6: definitely can't, like I should not even talk to this
Speaker 6: thing anymore because it's not.
Speaker 2: Going to leave me alone.
Speaker 6: And so I stopped acknowledging it over and over, and
Speaker 6: it would just keep doing stuff to the point where
Speaker 6: it'd start tripping the alarms in the.
Speaker 9: In the restaurant.
Speaker 6: And so it'd be like twelve thirty to one or two,
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, the alarms would go off,
Speaker 6: and so like I'd freak out because I'm there by myself,
Speaker 6: and I'd grab like a kitchen knife run to the
Speaker 6: front because there's only one way into the restaurant, and
Speaker 6: so I was like, someone's breaking in, and so I
Speaker 6: kind of like run, but kind of peak, and I'm
Speaker 6: a little scared, and no one's there, like there's no
Speaker 6: like broken windows or anything. And so so then the
Speaker 6: security tapes they call, or the security people they call
Speaker 6: the store and they're like, hey, like we're the security,
Speaker 6: We're so and so, can you give us the code?
Speaker 6: And I gave them the code and they were like, so,
Speaker 6: can you describe trust what happened? And I told him, honestly,
Speaker 6: I don't know. Like I work here at night. My
Speaker 6: name's my legal name's Mauricios. I'd be like, my name's Mauricio,
Speaker 6: I work for Papa Lunas and I'm here every night.
Speaker 6: I don't know why the alarms went off, They're like okay,
Speaker 6: like no worries, and so it would do it a lot.
Speaker 6: So then my boss like would ask me, He's like,
Speaker 6: what's going on at night? And I'm like, I.
Speaker 9: Don't want to sound crazy, but this stuff like i'd
Speaker 9: explain what would happen, and he would he'd be like, okay,
Speaker 9: that's kind of weird, but he kind of just like.
Speaker 6: It, dismissed it. And then the day that it really like,
Speaker 6: I guess overwhelmed me because I wouldn't say I was scared,
Speaker 6: but I was overwhelmed. Is that it was midday and
Speaker 6: I was I had stopped working overnights because I was like,
Speaker 6: this is just too much on me. And I was
Speaker 6: there during the day with one of the other cooks,
Speaker 6: the day cook, and it was weird because I was working,
Speaker 6: and then I looked I could hear the other cook talking,
Speaker 6: and I was like, what are you doing and he
Speaker 6: and he kind of laughed and then he's like, no,
Speaker 6: I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to other things
Speaker 6: and then things yeah, and so I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 6: my heart sink again. And then as soon as he
Speaker 6: said that, all the alarms went off, and so all
Speaker 6: the alarms went off. Our manager like ran to the back.
Speaker 6: He's like, what happened? And so he went and like
Speaker 6: disabled the alarm, had a whole talk with the with
Speaker 6: the security people, and then they came like I think
Speaker 6: a few days later, and they were like, yeah, we
Speaker 6: don't know why it might be faulty.
Speaker 9: And my manager didn't tell them anything, of.
Speaker 6: Course, But then I talked to that day to the
Speaker 6: day cook and I was like, there's it. I was
Speaker 6: pretty much told him. I was like, there's this fucking
Speaker 6: like that man dude that I see all the time.
Speaker 6: And I've talked to the other the couple and they
Speaker 6: said they see it. And he's like oh, He's like yeah,
Speaker 6: I didn't know you could like see it or you know.
Speaker 6: And we kind of like talked about it and he's like,
Speaker 6: don't worry, it won't hurt you or anything. I'm like, well,
Speaker 6: I'm not worry it'll hurt me. I'm just like I
Speaker 6: want this to stop. And so he's like, no, don't worry,
Speaker 6: it will and then after that it like never happened again.
Speaker 1: Well do you think that do you think that it
Speaker 1: was like a ghost that haunted the restaurant or like
Speaker 1: you know, a spirit or entity or whatever that haunted
Speaker 1: the restaurant or do you think that it was you know,
Speaker 1: the result of something that you were doing, or like
Speaker 1: where did it come from?
Speaker 6: I don't think it was nothing on my end, because
Speaker 6: like anytime i'd practice witchcraft or like meditation or anything,
Speaker 6: it would be in the confines of my house, and
Speaker 6: so I would never do stuff outside. But like one
Speaker 6: of I guess another side note is that I had
Speaker 6: one of my good friends his mom's shaman, and so
Speaker 6: every time stuff like this would happen and I'd be
Speaker 6: in over my head, she'd be like, okay, like do
Speaker 6: this or do that and then it'll help. And so
Speaker 6: I told her about this, and essentially she said that
Speaker 6: it was older energy that was just there before the
Speaker 6: building was even there.
Speaker 9: Oh wow, yeah.
Speaker 6: And so that's why it's like it kind of noticed
Speaker 6: what I was and started talking to me, and because
Speaker 6: I wasn't scared, it kind of and to like tried
Speaker 6: to see how far it could go.
Speaker 1: So when an energy like that, like you were saying,
Speaker 1: like it wanted to kind of like collab, it was
Speaker 1: like looking for like you know, you want to you know,
Speaker 1: to want to get yeah, do you want to like,
Speaker 1: you know, do some some which stuff together? What what
Speaker 1: what does an energy like that have to offer?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What what can that? What are they trying to do?
Speaker 6: I honestly, I feel like it depends on like it's
Speaker 6: subjective to the energy.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 6: I think with that one, I think it was just
Speaker 6: trying to mess with me. I didn't feel like it
Speaker 6: was even really trying to like it. The demeanor wasn't serious.
Speaker 6: It seemed like a bully. And so that's why I
Speaker 6: did not. I did not partake. Whereas like whereas like
Speaker 6: I was telling you.
Speaker 9: About how I have, I had.
Speaker 6: Like a spirit guyde so like that that energy of
Speaker 6: the spirit guide, it's way different where like his name
Speaker 6: is Norman, and where Norman he's like completely different. We're
Speaker 6: like even just the way that it feels, it feels
Speaker 6: more inviting, where like this felt like the bully during
Speaker 6: lunch trying to take my lunch money, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what's the story with Norman?
Speaker 6: Okay, So with Norman, So essentially Norman is this energy
Speaker 6: that I associate it with like Celtic old like pagan energy.
Speaker 6: And around this time, pretty much I was before I
Speaker 6: started like heavily practicing winchcraft. I was in a really bad,
Speaker 6: like bad relationship has kind of toxic and thankfully I
Speaker 6: got out of it.
Speaker 9: But I think after that I.
Speaker 6: Was kind of reckless a little bit and just was
Speaker 6: doing all this stuff, couldn't care less about the repercussions
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. And so essentially one night I
Speaker 6: was doing witchcraft and this, uh, this entity came to
Speaker 6: me like while I was meditating, and it came in
Speaker 6: the guise of like a big bear, like have you
Speaker 6: seen Brave?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so like.
Speaker 9: Meredis mom, that's like kind of what it looked like.
Speaker 1: And it was really tall.
Speaker 6: And he just kind of came like in this like
Speaker 6: deep like trance. He came up and like pretty much
Speaker 6: said like you need to stop doing this stuff. And
Speaker 6: at first it really scared me, but he just said,
Speaker 6: like I'm I'm here to like not you should not
Speaker 6: be doing this stuff. You need to like calm down,
Speaker 6: you need to you know, really like if you're gonna
Speaker 6: do this stuff, you need to really focus your energy
Speaker 6: on your on your intent and just you know, be
Speaker 6: wary because things are always watching. And so but like
Speaker 6: the catches is that I don't. I don't believe that energy,
Speaker 6: like the spirit, so to say, the spirit realm, I
Speaker 6: don't believe that it has like it doesn't subscribe to
Speaker 6: like our morality, like our human morality.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't believe in good or evil. And I think.
Speaker 6: It's because like I whereas like with energy, I I
Speaker 6: personally believe it's kind of like a food chain, so
Speaker 6: like there's a lot of anarchy, and it's just like
Speaker 6: it can be overwhelming at times. But like, for instance,
Speaker 6: if you saw, you know, when people go in the
Speaker 6: Safari and they see cheetahs and stuff and they see
Speaker 6: them eat prey and stuff. They don't think cheetahs are
Speaker 6: evil or they don't think lines are evil. They they
Speaker 6: understand like, oh, that's just what they do.
Speaker 2: They need eat.
Speaker 6: And I think that energy is the same way. I
Speaker 6: just think that you know, of course I wouldn't I
Speaker 6: practice witchcraft in the comforts of my home. But of
Speaker 6: course I wouldn't be like Zach Baggins and go to
Speaker 6: some random mass building that has a lot of trauma
Speaker 6: in the past. And I wouldn't try to antagonize that
Speaker 6: energy because then you're gonna get of course, you're going
Speaker 6: to get a response.
Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too. Hello Jeremy from my home state
Speaker 1: of Michigan.
Speaker 2: Hello, how are you?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm doing the best I can. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get to hear ghost stories, so I'm excited about that.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I'm envious of all your ghost stories, but
Speaker 2: I do love listening to them. So good job with
Speaker 2: the podcast. I'm loving it.
Speaker 1: Thank you. So okay, you sent me a message saying
Speaker 1: that you have a bit. You wrote a big story
Speaker 1: that is one hundred percent real.
Speaker 2: Let's hear it.
Speaker 1: Would be the Judge.
Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is because it's I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's sort of like you could totally make
Speaker 2: a little movie out of this, I think. So all right,
Speaker 2: this story is it's kind of a surrounding my great
Speaker 2: grandparents in their house. And this is in Michigan, in Conning, Michigan,
Speaker 2: which is like on the Sagana on the east side
Speaker 2: of the state. The house is a house that my
Speaker 2: great grandfather actually built himself, which I actually just learned
Speaker 2: that this year. I was very surprised. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know when they got married. I'm assuming based on
Speaker 2: the pictures it was probably back like the nineteen thirties,
Speaker 2: and they lived there their entire life. So this happened
Speaker 2: late eighties into the early nineties. I was younger, probly
Speaker 2: maybe eight ish eight nine years old somewhere around there
Speaker 2: when it started. So my great grandfather he had passed away,
Speaker 2: and there was never anything weird or anything that ever
Speaker 2: happened in that house. I never had any odd feelings.
Speaker 2: After he passed away is when everything started. So the
Speaker 2: first thing was actually the day of his burial, so
Speaker 2: it was like the last day of the funeral. Everybody
Speaker 2: came back to my great grandparents' house, and out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: a parakeet flew out of just the sky. A parakeet,
Speaker 2: A parakeet a parent. Okay, and so let me preface
Speaker 2: this a little bit too. My great grandmother loved parakeets.
Speaker 2: She always had one, and I always remember her having them,
Speaker 2: and I always thought it I actually thought it was
Speaker 2: my great grandfather that I always saw him playing with
Speaker 2: them and stuff, But apparently it was her. She always
Speaker 2: liked them, she always kept them.
Speaker 1: And anybody that has never been to Michigan or you
Speaker 1: just don't know this fact. Those are not indigenous to me.
Speaker 2: No, no, not whatever.
Speaker 1: I will add a lot of people don't know about
Speaker 1: this place called Meyer. Do they have that in your.
Speaker 2: Well, of course they do. They're everywhere. Yeah, I had
Speaker 2: two to choose from in my area.
Speaker 1: I'm jealous. But I have tried to explain to people
Speaker 1: what Meyer is, and it's it's almost like Walmart, but
Speaker 1: like way better because you can literally get a head
Speaker 1: of lettuce, you could get a haircut, you could get
Speaker 1: a live parakeet. Yeah, they sell they sell birds and
Speaker 1: oh as well as workout equipment, sweatpants, whatever you need
Speaker 1: the one stop shop. Okay, So a parakeet that might
Speaker 1: may or may not have escaped from my.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you never know. Yeah, So it was weird.
Speaker 2: It literally flew out of nowhere and it started flying
Speaker 2: at the windows of the house like it was trying
Speaker 2: to get into the house.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and they're all like, you know, my dad
Speaker 2: was Now I wasn't there on this particular portion, but
Speaker 2: my dad told me about this, you know, and they're
Speaker 2: all just like, what the heck, And they're all kind
Speaker 2: of laughing about it, you know, because they all knew that,
Speaker 2: you know, great Grandma liked barricades. And they opened up
Speaker 2: the door to the house and it flew right into
Speaker 2: the house. It landed it let them kick it up,
Speaker 2: and they put it into a cage, and they just joked,
Speaker 2: They're like, well, just here's Grandpa, here's great Grandpa. He's back,
Speaker 2: you know, And it was kind of a joke, but
Speaker 2: at the same time, it was sort of like ha
Speaker 2: ha ha, No, this is really kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so once that bird came into the house,
Speaker 2: that's when the weird things started happening. So again, my
Speaker 2: great grandparents, they were I mean, when my great grandfather died,
Speaker 2: I mean, he was probably in his mid to late eighties,
Speaker 2: and my great grandmother's right around the same age, and unfortunately,
Speaker 2: her health kind of started to go down the hill
Speaker 2: a little bit, and my grandma and grandpa they left
Speaker 2: their creepy little farmhouse, which that's whole other stuff, and
Speaker 2: they came over and moved in there to help take
Speaker 2: care of her. So I would go over there every
Speaker 2: once in a while. At this point, my father, he
Speaker 2: was a truck driver, and my parents are divorced, so
Speaker 2: there would be some weekends I would go over to
Speaker 2: my dad's and he might be gone and not come
Speaker 2: back until Saturday morning or something, so I'd stay with them.
Speaker 2: And I stayed with them a lot around this time,
Speaker 2: and there was some nights where I don't know, you
Speaker 2: just you know, when you had that feeling like there's
Speaker 2: somebody else there in that room other than the people
Speaker 2: you see, you just sense it. And that was the
Speaker 2: sense that I got. And it was, you know, again,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of younger to kind of creep me out
Speaker 2: a little bit, but nothing had really happened at that point.
Speaker 2: So one night I stayed the night. Now here's the
Speaker 2: other part of the story. My great grandparents got a
Speaker 2: grandfather clock. Now not like a big one, not the
Speaker 2: kind that like you know, you see in movies. But
Speaker 2: it's like one of the smaller ones, maybe like I
Speaker 2: don't know, two and a half three feet high that
Speaker 2: they hang.
Speaker 9: On the wall.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you know. But it still has the pendulum
Speaker 2: that swings back and forth, and it has that very
Speaker 2: loud noise to it, and it chimed very deep chime
Speaker 2: on every hour. And I think they, like I said,
Speaker 2: I think that was a wedding or a i'm not wedding,
Speaker 2: an anniversary present like they. I think they got it either.
Speaker 2: The late sixties or the early seventies, and when my
Speaker 2: grandfather was alive, I would remember he would, you know,
Speaker 2: everyone's well, get up, open up the clock face and
Speaker 2: wind it up, because apparently it's that old. It was
Speaker 2: one of the kind that you would wind it up,
Speaker 2: and that was the common thing. You did it all
Speaker 2: the time. So one night I stay the night and
Speaker 2: I remember that night too. I was a little bit
Speaker 2: creeped out because it sounded like somebody was walking through
Speaker 2: the living room, and you know, like how you know
Speaker 2: that sounds. You know, you can hear the floor creaks
Speaker 2: in a certain way when somebody walks through, and I
Speaker 2: would hear that, and it was a little bit creepy,
Speaker 2: but I'm just like, it's just the house settling whatever.
Speaker 2: It's fine, you know, and went to bed. That morning
Speaker 2: I woke up and I just woke it up, and
Speaker 2: I notice I'm hearing a noise and it's just this
Speaker 2: this clicklicklick click click click click clicklick noise, and I'm
Speaker 2: kind of woke up and it was coming from the
Speaker 2: clock and I realized it was the sound of the
Speaker 2: clock winding up. Now, it didn't freak me out. One
Speaker 2: hundred percent yet because in my mind I'm going, well,
Speaker 2: maybe it does that, maybe it'll wind itself a little
Speaker 2: bit every once in a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have to like put a key in
Speaker 1: there or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, there's like, yeah, there's like a little
Speaker 2: wind up key that you have to use. And there
Speaker 2: was no wind up key in it. You know, it
Speaker 2: wasn't in the little hole. There was nothing turning, like,
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything on the clock itself happening other
Speaker 2: than you know, it was clicking and telling time, but
Speaker 2: it was making that wind up noise. And I was like,
Speaker 2: this is a little odd. So later on and I
Speaker 2: was down in the basement with my grandma and just
Speaker 2: out of the blue, like it's nothing, She's like, oh,
Speaker 2: did you hear Grandpa winding the clock this morning? Uh huh?
Speaker 2: Apparently this happened all the time. Weird. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know, I maybe I'm just making this up.
Speaker 1: I'm like pretty sure that a smaller grandfather's clock they
Speaker 1: call a grandmother.
Speaker 2: Clock, is it? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's whoever started the clock industry put these weird gender
Speaker 1: roles on the size of Oh.
Speaker 2: So the smaller ones, Yeah, Okay, I see it's got
Speaker 2: to be the woman apparently.
Speaker 1: Huh apparently, So that's them, I believe. So I might
Speaker 1: be making that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Wait, let me ask you this. So what is the
Speaker 1: parakeet doing all this time?
Speaker 2: Like, is the part it's there, it's living, it's fine,
Speaker 2: it's doing its parakeet thing. So yeah, So so my
Speaker 2: grandma told me that, and then my you know, I
Speaker 2: kind of probably went white. And that's when it kind
Speaker 2: of cemented everything to me, like, Okay, there's some weird
Speaker 2: shit going on here. Now, you know, there's a part
Speaker 2: of me that's going like, okay, so if there is
Speaker 2: something weird going down in this house by a ghost,
Speaker 2: at least it's my great grandfather and he's not going
Speaker 2: to do anything that I would think, you know, to
Speaker 2: horror anybody or to be creepy on purpose or anything
Speaker 2: like that. So that was kind of like my own
Speaker 2: little way of trying to you with that, and that
Speaker 2: was cool, but I still always was a little bit
Speaker 2: freaked out going in there, you know, especially stay in
Speaker 2: the night, and there was you know, and since then,
Speaker 2: there was a couple nights I would stay the night
Speaker 2: and I would hear that damn walking and I would
Speaker 2: think in my head, really loud, Grandpa, please don't do that.
Speaker 2: It scares me, and it would stop. And I remember
Speaker 2: there was one time we were sitting there, we were
Speaker 2: watching TV, and I remember I looked kind of like
Speaker 2: the living room is really it's really weird. It's good.
Speaker 2: Like the living room like spans almost the entire one
Speaker 2: side of the house. It's a really odd design. I
Speaker 2: think back in the day, maybe half of it they
Speaker 2: used as a more of a dining area, I'm not sure,
Speaker 2: but we were like over kind of all the way
Speaker 2: over on one side they kind of had a set up.
Speaker 2: The TV was over there, and they had some like
Speaker 2: recliners and stuff, and I remember I looked back and
Speaker 2: like my grandma was on the couch across for me,
Speaker 2: and my grandpa was in one of the recliners, but
Speaker 2: there was still one more recliner nobody was in it.
Speaker 2: And I remember I look back and like that reciner
Speaker 2: was like facing towards the TV, and I looked away,
Speaker 2: and then that dan klock started its winding a little bit.
Speaker 2: That was it wasn't the full one, it was just
Speaker 2: and immediately my blood turns cold, and again I think
Speaker 2: really loudly, Grandpa, please don't do that. You're scaring me.
Speaker 2: And it stopped. So I feel like, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: if that's what was going on, maybe he you know,
Speaker 2: because I always kind of heard that, you know, you
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have to verbally say things for a spirit
Speaker 2: to really hear you, so I kind of you know,
Speaker 2: and I never voiced anything, you know, and my grandparents
Speaker 2: didn't say anything. I never really said it because I
Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, I didn't even really want
Speaker 2: to talk about it, not when I'm sitting in there,
Speaker 2: you know. Years later, now I can talk about it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, back then, uh uh. And I remember I
Speaker 2: turned around and I looked back again, and that damn
Speaker 2: recliner was facing in the opposite direction and nobody had
Speaker 2: gotten up, nobody walked through or anything. So that, yeah,
Speaker 2: I saw that. I didn't see it move, but it
Speaker 2: was in a different direction, like not but five minutes later,
Speaker 2: and that really, uh, that kind of freaked me out too.
Speaker 2: So it was a lot of stuff like that. And
Speaker 2: it wasn't always you know, it wasn't always creepy, you know,
Speaker 2: as long as there was other people there I was fine,
Speaker 2: you know, but it was like if you know, everybody
Speaker 2: was outside and Grandma'd be like, you know, hey, can
Speaker 2: you go get some pop out of that creepy ass
Speaker 2: old basement, you know and bring it out here and
Speaker 2: be like do I have to you know? Gosh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that basement. That's a whole Nothing ever creepy happened in
Speaker 2: that basement, but Jesus, that basement was the creepiest thing ever.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so time goes on. My great grandmother's health
Speaker 2: was really declining and my grandparents was They had a
Speaker 2: really hard time being able to take care of her,
Speaker 2: so they ended up having to put her into a
Speaker 2: nursing facility so she could get the care that she needed.
Speaker 2: So there was the kind of like this is what
Speaker 2: this is coming up to here. I was over there
Speaker 2: with my dad within my grandparents, and we were watching
Speaker 2: a movie and we noticed that the bird was acting funny,
Speaker 2: like it was kind of like stumbling around, almost like
Speaker 2: it was dizzy or something like it wasn't acting right.
Speaker 2: And we took it out of the cage and kind
Speaker 2: of and set it down like on the table, and
Speaker 2: it was just kind of like it would kind of
Speaker 2: fall over and then get back up, and it was
Speaker 2: just acting really weird, and it was sort of like
Speaker 2: an onset thing where we're all like, uh oh, you know,
Speaker 2: like this this if everything that you know was in
Speaker 2: the back of everybody's mind is true, then this is
Speaker 2: probably not a good sign. So two days later, I
Speaker 2: think it was two days, just a couple of days,
Speaker 2: my grandparents got the call from the nursing home that hey,
Speaker 2: you guys better get over here because we think that
Speaker 2: she's probably gonna pass sous. So they did. They went,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, they were right. They uh she she
Speaker 2: had passed. They came home and the first thing they
Speaker 2: noticed was that the bird was dead in the cage,
Speaker 2: and then the grandfather clock the time had stopped on
Speaker 2: the time of her death.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that kind of cemented it for everybody that yep. Now,
Speaker 2: whether great Grandpa was in the bird the whole time
Speaker 2: probably would I don't know how that's gonna work, but
Speaker 2: they pretty much were just like he came back and
Speaker 2: he waited for Grandma and when she died, then they
Speaker 2: left together, which is really kind of a really beautiful story.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's a romance.
Speaker 7: Novel.
Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, exactly, it's just a little more creepy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, and that's why I say, like it's so
Speaker 2: hollywood ish. But yeah, I swear to God that that is, like,
Speaker 2: that's the big weird creepy story that happened in my
Speaker 2: family that I had a little bit of. Part of
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 1: A good one. Wait, so did how was the activity
Speaker 1: in the house after that?
Speaker 2: So the activity stopped after that? There really wasn't anything.
Speaker 2: But here's the weird part. So it's been you know,
Speaker 2: it's been like, god, twenty years now. So my dad
Speaker 2: is actually he's living there right now. My grand my grandfather,
Speaker 2: he passed away from a farming accident early nineties, early
Speaker 2: to mid nineties, and my grandma lived there and there
Speaker 2: was never anything weird. Now my grandmother she unfortunately, she
Speaker 2: has developed really really bad dementia and she is and
Speaker 2: she's in care herself now. So my dad's there taking
Speaker 2: care of the house. So gosh, how long has he
Speaker 2: been there? Probably like just over a year. So he
Speaker 2: actually we uh, I'm trying to think, but I think
Speaker 2: we had gotten together and he went home, Yeah, he
Speaker 2: went home, and that night he went home. He's back
Speaker 2: in that house, and he texts me, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm so freaked out right now, and I'm like, WHOA,
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 2: And so he said, so there's the kitchen. There's like
Speaker 2: a little bedroom off the kitchen, which is really just
Speaker 2: used for storage. They don't really use. I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody's even slept in that room in years. And he
Speaker 2: said he was in the living room and he was
Speaker 2: in his recliner watching TV. He's got his little dog
Speaker 2: on his lap, which cracks me up, by the way,
Speaker 2: because my father is just like two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: pounds mullet murk elven biker with tattoos and you know,
Speaker 2: like total badass kind of guy. And he's got this
Speaker 2: little multi shitsu that is like his third child. So yeah,
Speaker 2: so she's on his lap and he's just sitting there
Speaker 2: and he said, all of a sudden, he said, it
Speaker 2: sounded like the door to that bedroom slam shut with
Speaker 2: so much force that the walls shook in the house.
Speaker 2: And he jumped up, and the dog went crazy and
Speaker 2: ran into the into the dining or the kitchen and
Speaker 2: was going crazy and barking. My Daan's looking around and
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, what the hell was that, you know,
Speaker 2: and he said it sounded just like that door closing,
Speaker 2: but the door was closed. So he's looking around. He
Speaker 2: went down in the basement to see if there's anything,
Speaker 2: and there was nothing out of place, and he's like, Jeremy,
Speaker 2: I swear to God that it was that door. He's like,
Speaker 2: I know what that door sounds like when it gets closed,
Speaker 2: and it was slammed, and I'm like, well, that's weird
Speaker 2: because that's like the first time. Yeah, that's the first
Speaker 2: time that anything weird had happened. And then he had
Speaker 2: something else happen again, I know, probably a few months ago.
Speaker 2: I think he told me where again. He's like in
Speaker 2: the living room, he's like watching TV, and he said
Speaker 2: it sounded like somebody took like a like a pizza
Speaker 2: pan or something and just dropped it, you know, from
Speaker 2: like five feet off the floor and it just hit
Speaker 2: the floor and made that noise, and again the dog
Speaker 2: went crazy. He's running around looking and there's nothing out
Speaker 2: of place anywhere. So he's had a couple of those
Speaker 2: experiences and yeah, that I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: where that would be coming from.
Speaker 1: And so like but nothing was happening up until No.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like out of nowhere. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm kind of interested to know what what
Speaker 2: else is. I haven't talked to him like in a
Speaker 2: week or so, and I'll have to ask him next
Speaker 2: time if there's anything else that's happened. Usually he'll tell me,
Speaker 2: because you know, he's very into ghosts and all that
Speaker 2: stuff too, so he's you know, he will definitely let
Speaker 2: me know if something happens. But yeah, he had that
Speaker 2: those couple of things happened there, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Emily, Hello, Hi Emily, where are you.
Speaker 7: I'm in Boulder, Colorado right now?
Speaker 1: Have you been to the Stanley Hotel?
Speaker 5: I have?
Speaker 7: It's crazy, it's really creepy, but I've actually been to
Speaker 7: three hotels in Colorado that I've had haunted.
Speaker 3: Experiences that oh I took. I took a tour of the.
Speaker 7: Stanley Hotel and and like that was the least scary
Speaker 7: place that I've been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sours was it? It was it like a ghost
Speaker 1: tour or was it just like a tour of the property.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I went on a ghost tour. Around Halloween, and
Speaker 7: I didn't feel any like weird vibes or anything anywhere.
Speaker 7: I didn't see anything. The only kind of weird thing
Speaker 7: was when we were standing outside of the door that
Speaker 7: Stephen King stayed in when he got the inspiration the
Speaker 7: inspiration for the shining, and I felt like weird, like
Speaker 7: I was about to pass out.
Speaker 1: But that was it interesting. So what happened at the
Speaker 1: other hotels?
Speaker 7: So the first one that I went to, I was
Speaker 7: just driving back from spring break in California and last minute.
Speaker 7: I was with my boyfriend at the time, and we
Speaker 7: decided that we It was like three am and we
Speaker 7: couldn't make the drives all the way back like four
Speaker 7: more hours, so we were looking around seeing if there
Speaker 7: were any hotels that still had last minute rooms open
Speaker 7: that we could stay in, and we just found like
Speaker 7: a really cheap room at I don't I don't even
Speaker 7: remember what hotel it was. It was just some chain
Speaker 7: hotel like the Holiday In or something, and and they
Speaker 7: had one room available and it was like super cheap,
Speaker 7: especially because it was so last minute, And as soon
Speaker 7: as we walk up to the door, before we even
Speaker 7: go inside, I felt like this really weird vibe like
Speaker 7: there was just something dark in that room. And I'm
Speaker 7: sure it's like you know that feeling that I'm talking about, yeah,
Speaker 7: and yeah, And I didn't say anything because I didn't
Speaker 7: want to freak out my boyfriend and we were just
Speaker 7: exhausted and just wanted to go to sleep, and he
Speaker 7: fell asleep like right away, and I for some reason,
Speaker 7: like I was so tired on the drive, but when
Speaker 7: I was in there, I could not fall asleep, and
Speaker 7: I got I got these really weird like flu symptoms
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, like I felt like I had
Speaker 7: a fever and I had a stomach ache, and I
Speaker 7: was up literally until like six in the morning, just
Speaker 7: like blowing my nose and coughing and like just like
Speaker 7: into so much pain all over the place. And and
Speaker 7: then like as soon as it showed up, because it
Speaker 7: just it just hit me out of nowhere, and then
Speaker 7: it just went away out of nowhere at about like
Speaker 7: six or seven in the morning. And then when me
Speaker 7: and my boyfriend, we both like woke up, and I
Speaker 7: said to him that I didn't want to freak him
Speaker 7: out last night, so I didn't say it. But I
Speaker 7: have a feeling that there's something like dark in this
Speaker 7: room like it was haunted, and and he looked at
Speaker 7: me and he was like, I didn't want to tell
Speaker 7: you this either, but I felt the exact same way
Speaker 7: before we were walked into the room. And and he told
Speaker 7: me that he has like this really really scary nightmare
Speaker 7: about like being in a haunted house and like having
Speaker 7: to save this little boy from like all the demons
Speaker 7: and stuff. And he never had dreams ever, so the
Speaker 7: fact that even dreams it all was super rare, but
Speaker 7: like it was such a vivid nightmare that he remembered.
Speaker 7: And there's also like there were mirrors all over the room,
Speaker 7: like two really big mirrors facing the bed, which I've
Speaker 7: never seen a hotel laid out like that. I don't
Speaker 7: know why there's so many mirrors, but like I've heard
Speaker 7: that mirrors are like sometimes they're a kind of portal.
Speaker 7: We were sitting there like taking all this information in
Speaker 7: and realizing that we were in a really haunted room,
Speaker 7: and we just booked it out of there so fast.
Speaker 1: It's so funny how that was the only room. Like
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they tried to get like people to
Speaker 1: stay in that room and they're like, h I don't
Speaker 1: like it in here, it's like the last one that's
Speaker 1: like the room that gives you nightmares and temporary flu Yeah,
Speaker 1: and of.
Speaker 7: Course it was like at the end of the hall,
Speaker 7: like super dark, sketchy hallway, and it was it was weird.
Speaker 7: It was cheaper in person when we paid than it
Speaker 7: was when they told us the price on the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 7: the up but yeah, the I had another experience in
Speaker 7: a hotel and Boulder that was like even more terrifying.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's the.
Speaker 7: Hotel Bulderado and it's famous for being haunted, and my
Speaker 7: good friend was staying there and I was. I was
Speaker 7: going to sleep over in our hotel one night. So
Speaker 7: we were just like hanging out and staying up late,
Speaker 7: and we weren't like really drunk or any but we
Speaker 7: were just having a few drinks. But like I was,
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 3: Pretty coherent, and.
Speaker 7: Like I'm saying that now because like this sounds like
Speaker 7: maybe I was just like tripping or something, but I wasn't,
Speaker 7: and and neither were my friends. Like we were all
Speaker 7: like just a little bit tipsy. And we decided at
Speaker 7: three am that it would be a good idea to
Speaker 7: go ghost hunting and just see what happened. So we
Speaker 7: looked up what the most haunted place in that hotel was,
Speaker 7: and it were these two rooms that were right next
Speaker 7: to each other, and I think it used to be
Speaker 7: one room. I probably should have looked this up beforehand, but.
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking it up right now the bold Yeah.
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, it used to be one room and there
Speaker 7: was something like a double suicide in it, and then
Speaker 7: they split it up into two rooms, so that that
Speaker 7: room that had happened it doesn't exist anymore because they
Speaker 7: they like redid the layout or whatever, but it's still
Speaker 7: like that area. And so we were sitting in the
Speaker 7: hallway outside of those two rooms, just like waiting to
Speaker 7: see if we heard or saw anything.
Speaker 3: We're just sitting in.
Speaker 7: Silence, and and like it was just it was dead
Speaker 7: silent in that area. And all of a sudden, I
Speaker 7: hear the sound of like like someone trying to open
Speaker 7: a locked door. And I looked around and I didn't
Speaker 7: see any like door handles like moving or anything. But
Speaker 7: I heard the sound really clearly, and I looked to
Speaker 7: see if maybe like there was someone like pushing a
Speaker 7: cart down the hall or anything, and there was none
Speaker 7: of that. Like it was just completely empty, and and
Speaker 7: so I asked, my friends, do you hear that noise?
Speaker 7: And it was like they just didn't even hear me
Speaker 7: talking either, like they just kept sitting in silence, like
Speaker 7: nothing was happening.
Speaker 3: And it was.
Speaker 7: Weird because I couldn't tell which direction the sun was
Speaker 7: coming from because it felt like it was like inside
Speaker 7: of my head, like it didn't have like a like
Speaker 7: a a source or anything. But it just sounded like
Speaker 7: a door rattling. And after I asked them that and
Speaker 7: they didn't respond, the sound got like even like louder
Speaker 7: and like more aggressive, and like it sounded like they
Speaker 7: were really like pushing the door in, like they weren't
Speaker 7: just rattling the door handle anymore. They were really like
Speaker 7: going at it, trying to open the door. And again
Speaker 7: I was like, come on, guys, like how do you
Speaker 7: not hear that? And like I'm positive that I I
Speaker 7: was talking and I was positive that I heard that sound,
Speaker 7: and again they just like didn't even acknowledge me, Like
Speaker 7: I was sitting right next to them talking to them,
Speaker 7: and they did not It was like I didn't even
Speaker 7: exist and I was like in a different like dimension
Speaker 7: than them or something, and like and then it got
Speaker 7: even louder and like more aggressive, and I was like something,
Speaker 7: I felt like something was like coming after me, and
Speaker 7: like only me, because I was the only one who've
Speaker 7: heard it. And I just like got up and like
Speaker 7: booked it out of there and like went down like
Speaker 7: two flights of stairs down to the lobby, and I
Speaker 7: was like freaking out. And then my friend called me and.
Speaker 3: She was like where did you just go?
Speaker 7: Like why did you just get up and run away
Speaker 7: without saying anything? And I was like, did you hear
Speaker 7: that noise? Like the door rattling noise? And she was like, no,
Speaker 7: what are you talking about? Like it was just silence
Speaker 7: the whole time. And they got up and ran away,
Speaker 7: and I was like, did you hear me, like at
Speaker 7: least talking to you, And she's like, no, you didn't
Speaker 7: say anything.
Speaker 1: I think you're a little like psychic or something.
Speaker 7: I don't know it was. I've never experienced anything like
Speaker 7: that in my life, and like I was so freaked out,
Speaker 7: Like I don't know if I have, because I have
Speaker 7: experiences with like like happy spirits, like my friends and
Speaker 7: family kind of like looking out for me, so and
Speaker 7: I know, like my parents are kind of doubtful of it,
Speaker 7: but like I know that, like I definitely have experiences
Speaker 7: with them, so I don't know if I might be
Speaker 7: a little but.
Speaker 1: I'm looking up. Okay, So there's this article, Oh No,
Speaker 1: where to go? This is from the Genver Post. They're
Speaker 1: talking about it. It says this woman that worked at
Speaker 1: the front desk said that she received frequent haunted complaints.
Speaker 1: When she worked the front desk. Two rooms get an
Speaker 1: overwhelming number of reports adjoining suites Room three oh two
Speaker 1: and three oh four, perhaps because of the speculation that
Speaker 1: the hotel's famous suicides occurred around those locations, even though
Speaker 1: the suite numbers were changed after a remodel.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm, yeah, that's where we were. It was funny
Speaker 7: when when I ran down to the lobby there was
Speaker 7: someone on the front desk and they're just like, are
Speaker 7: you good, Like they weren't even phased by the fact
Speaker 7: that I just ran down there freaked out because I
Speaker 7: probably see it so often.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh this again.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh my gosh. I can't imagine working at a
Speaker 7: haunted hotel like that.
Speaker 1: No, I also don't stay at a haunted hotel. Wait.
Speaker 1: I want to look at pictures of this place. Ooh, okay,
Speaker 1: it looks spooky. It's like a big brick building. I mean,
Speaker 1: it looks cool, it looks nice, but it also like
Speaker 1: looks old and looks like it has lots of secrets
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 7: Lots of secrets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 7: Like reading about the hauntings, there's like there's a lot
Speaker 7: of different types of stories. There's a lot of people
Speaker 7: like seeing like full body like operations at like the
Speaker 7: foot of their bed in the middle of the night.
Speaker 7: Oh no, and like just like all all of that
Speaker 7: like crazy stuff. But I was like doing so much
Speaker 7: researching if anything had an experience like mine, and I
Speaker 7: couldn't find anything.
Speaker 1: Well, to me, that sounds like you're some kind of
Speaker 1: channel or something. I mean, when you think about how
Speaker 1: you like physically got ill from that one room and
Speaker 1: then you're at the Stanley, you had like physical feels,
Speaker 1: it seems like there's something going on there. Would you
Speaker 1: want to explore that more?
Speaker 7: It's like kind of scary to think about, but I
Speaker 7: think it would be definitely like interesting. I honestly, really,
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean that seems like of all the different kinds
Speaker 1: of ways that you can have psychic abilities. I feel
Speaker 1: like that I could imagine that being very like draining,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're like really tapping into going places
Speaker 1: that make you ill or make you feel weird or
Speaker 1: dizzy or I don't know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, It's like those are the only two scary
Speaker 7: experiences that I've ever had, But like I have had
Speaker 7: a lot of just like really positive ones, like like
Speaker 7: with my Grammy and like with my friend, and like
Speaker 7: those are all just super comforting to me, and I
Speaker 7: feel like I'm good with just like having that in
Speaker 7: my life. But obviously it goes both ways.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to our fabulous listeners Molly, Moee, Jeremy,
Speaker 1: and Emily for sending us those ghost stories. And if
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