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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed.

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Speaker 2: It's kooky and kooky.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, hey, I goes said, Hi.

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Speaker 1: Ross dress, Hey boo, it's me Ros dress for last.

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Speaker 1: And I am so excited because today we have another

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Speaker 1: listener episode, Quarantine Edition. We have got incredible stories. We've

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Speaker 1: got Molly telling a story that involves dogs and a

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Speaker 1: very fast running ghost. We've got Moe who is a

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Speaker 1: witch and has all kinds of stories. We've got Jeremy

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Speaker 1: that has one of the most beautiful but kind of

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Speaker 1: creepy ghost stories I've ever heard. That's just an adorable

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Speaker 1: love story at the same time. And Emily, who you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the one that can diagnose somebody

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Speaker 1: as a psychic, but Emily has some stories that have

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Speaker 1: some sort of Clare Sentient kind of vibes to them.

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Speaker 1: Claire Sentient. That's a good drag name. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get on with the show.

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Speaker 3: There's a ghost in my house.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Molly, Hi Rides. Where are you, Molly?

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Speaker 3: I am in Minsicola, Florida.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, I hope you're staying out of those beaches, you know.

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm here at home almost all the time.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's great to hear. Well, speaking of being at home,

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Speaker 1: you told me that you have a story about house sitting, which.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done it.

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Speaker 1: I've done a lot of house sitting in my day,

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Speaker 1: and I am I mean, I'm always house sitting for

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Speaker 1: houses that are bigger than the one that I live in.

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Speaker 1: So it always just makes me think of how many

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Speaker 1: rooms a ghost could be in. So I just am

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Speaker 1: full of anxiety every time I'm house sitting. So please

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Speaker 1: scare me so that I'll never want to do it again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have not house that since then.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just I haven't been asked.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was a college student then. It was about.

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Speaker 3: Years ago, so it was it was a little while ago.

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Speaker 3: I'm thirty two now, so I was still in college

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Speaker 3: and I'm a violinist, and at that time, I was

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Speaker 3: teaching lessons just on the side, you know, getting through college.

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Speaker 3: And there was this really really sweet lady that had

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Speaker 3: really love, and you know, She was a great student.

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Speaker 3: when she was in lessons with me, we spent a

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Speaker 3: And I actually think that's one of the reasons she

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I just was like, you know, I still have

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Speaker 3: They're going absolutely nuts. But when these two things happened

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Speaker 3: everything sounds terrible in the douse. That's a good.

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Speaker 1: Point when they see squirrels outside and they're going crazy

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Speaker 4: Wow, all in there.

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Speaker 3: And I even looked in the closet. I mean, nothing

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Speaker 3: The dogs that this point, we're standing right with me

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Speaker 3: They weren't even barking. It's like we were all just

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Speaker 3: standing there listening to the ceiling. So it got so fast,

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Speaker 3: And that's the second time I made that sound effect.

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Speaker 3: But I guess it's my go to learning new things

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Speaker 3: there's no one in here, and what would even that

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Speaker 1: If that was an intruder, they're not just gonna like

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Speaker 3: No, And they would have had to walk past me

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Speaker 3: go just in case. I don't know if this is

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Speaker 3: the right thing to do, but this is what I did.

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Speaker 3: I put nine one one on the phone and I

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Speaker 3: like forced the dogs to go upstairs in front of me,

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Speaker 3: upstairs and there, I mean, there was just nothing.

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Speaker 1: Everything was normal, you were so brave.

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Speaker 3: I right, I do. Looking back, I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 1: So did you stay the night?

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I okay. So it was such a big house.

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Speaker 3: There was an AC unit for upstairs and for downstairs,

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I live in small houses. But up the owner, the

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Speaker 3: making sure they went to the bathroom, getting them food

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Speaker 3: and water, and then I left, locked up and went

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Speaker 3: I was like, did I even tell you what happened?

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Speaker 3: And he was like, no, I have no memory of that.

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Speaker 3: You were just kind of like I got a little

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Speaker 3: freaked out. I couldn't. Could I come sleep over here tonight?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow?

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Speaker 3: But the worst part is that when I woke up,

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Speaker 3: by seven am to check on the dogs. And when

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, And I.

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Speaker 3: Can't explain that. I just turned them back on to

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Speaker 1: Ever talk to the woman about it?

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Speaker 3: I didn't. And here's where I landed on that. You know,

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Speaker 3: she did not say anything about anything weird happening when

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Speaker 3: she asked me to house, did you know. And she

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Speaker 3: I think is kind of weird. But I just figured,

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Speaker 3: if I told her, maybe that would terrify her. You know,

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Speaker 3: I just didn't feel like, yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: I never die that like her daughter just died.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of hard to be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think she's a ghost.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think she got really mad at me too.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I just wondered. I'm like, was that that

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Speaker 8: You know, Moe, hey, Russ, how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm so good. You're like, you're in San Diego just

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Speaker 1: like me right now.

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Speaker 9: Yes, we're practically neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Right Well, I you send me an email that fascinated me.

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Speaker 1: So you're a witch and you've had all kinds of

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Speaker 1: What is like your go to? Do you have like

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Speaker 6: I guess the go to would definitely be the one

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Speaker 6: the hat Man.

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Speaker 1: The hat Man was, Okay, what's this about. So I

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Speaker 6: Pacific Beach about five I would say, about oh more

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Speaker 6: than five. Dang, I'm old, maybe like eight years ago.

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Speaker 6: I've lived in San Diego for about ten years, and

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Speaker 6: so I worked. I was a prep cook, an overnight

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Speaker 6: about three or four. And during this time, I was

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Speaker 6: i'd go there work at night, and then be doing

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Speaker 6: the next the next thing. And so when i'd be there,

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Speaker 6: I feel like I would be really vulnerable, and especially

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Speaker 6: because I told you I'm a witch, so like I

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Speaker 6: in the hat Man entity. Yeah, so there, So essentially

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Speaker 6: and I would have music playing, and I'm not someone

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Speaker 6: like you know, like everyone says when they see shadow people,

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Speaker 6: they see it out of the corner of their eyes. Well,

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Speaker 6: I saw it out of the corner of my eyes.

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Speaker 6: And normally for the way I handle stuff like that

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Speaker 6: is I just acknowledge it and then I just keep

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Speaker 6: going about. I feel like when things when you acknowledge it,

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Speaker 6: but you acknowledge that you're not scared, they kind of

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Speaker 6: leave you alone. That's kind of what I've experienced, and

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Speaker 6: so I would let alone.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for like they're like they want you to

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Speaker 1: be scared. You're like it's not working, and then they're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: finally are the next person.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they're like girl by pretty much like.

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Speaker 6: That's how I feel. And so I pretty much this

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Speaker 6: thing was inside. It was I can make it out

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Speaker 6: as like a tall I would say, like at least

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Speaker 6: six or five, and it was like hovering kind of

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Speaker 6: like peeking at me.

437
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Speaker 5: And I was.

438
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 6: I look and for the first few times I saw,

439
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 6: it would just kind of go away, and I didn't

440
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 6: think much of it. But then it started, I think

441
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 6: because I wasn't scared, it kind of stuck around. And

442
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 6: so then there was one night where I was working

443
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 6: and I would say it was about midnight, maybe close

444
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 6: to one, like twelve thirty, and so the thing he

445
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 6: well I call it, I say he because I saw

446
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 6: it as masculine presenting, and so it had this big hat.

447
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 6: It was like very well dressed, kind of like Harlie

448
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 6: Chaplin almost, and I looked out of this, you know,

449
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 6: looked at the corner, and then I was just like, okay,

450
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 6: so you're back.

451
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 9: And then.

452
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 6: Kind of like it was, it would be like looking

453
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 6: I would say, you could see a face, but like

454
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 6: every time that I would look directly at it, it

455
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 6: would disappear. But then when I would look away and

456
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 6: I could see it again out of my peripherals, so it.

457
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: Would show up.

458
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 6: It was like almost an optical illusion almost, and so

459
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, this is definitely like more than

460
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 6: just a shadow person shadow person, because I feel like

461
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 6: those the shadow people, they're more scared of us.

462
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: Whereas like this hat.

463
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 6: Man thing, I think that they they're they're a little

464
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 6: more evolved. I say, I think like higher in the

465
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 6: food chain.

466
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: And so.

467
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 6: It kind of looked like it wasn't going away, and

468
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 6: then so my heart kind of sank a little bit

469
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 6: because I was like, Okay, I'm about to have this

470
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 6: like mental conversation with this thing, because that's kind of

471
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 6: how I would talk to energy when I was actively

472
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 6: practicing a lot of witchcraft, because I would say, right now,

473
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 6: I'm non practicing because I'm really busy with work and stuff.

474
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 6: But so at the time I was practicing, and so

475
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 6: essentially kept saying, oh, what's your name, Like what kind

476
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 6: of witchcraft do you practice? And do you want to

477
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 6: you want to do stuff with me? And you know,

478
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 6: kind of asking more questions, and I would just say no, no,

479
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 6: thank you. I appreciate it, but no thanks, I respect you,

480
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 6: I respectfully decline, and I go about my work. And

481
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 6: so it would go away. But then it started becoming

482
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 6: like every night it would show up and it would

483
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 6: just keep asking me, like like a broken record, and

484
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 6: so then I would I would I didn't my coworkers.

485
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 6: I never really like told them much about the stuff

486
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 6: because I feel like there's a certain connotation with with

487
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 6: being a witch, and so I would I would I

488
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 6: would just tell them, oh, hey, like do you do

489
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 6: you like ever feel scared here at night or do

490
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 6: you like feel things?

491
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 9: And they were like, uh sometimes.

492
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 6: And you know, I was a young there's this I

493
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 6: worked with this younger couple that also worked at night,

494
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 6: but not never at the same time as me, and

495
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, I feel like I feel uneasy.

496
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 6: There's this guy. Like I kind of led into a

497
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 6: conversation pretty much asked them like do you guys see

498
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 6: like a hat shadow person or a person like with

499
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 6: the hat and they were like, oh my god, have

500
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 6: you ever heard of the hat Man entity? Or have

501
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 6: you ever heard of shadow people? And so I like,

502
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 6: I knew of shadow people, but I've never heard of

503
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 6: the hat man. And so they were like, yeah, the

504
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 6: shat the hat Man entity, he like he's pretty much

505
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 6: like crazy. You can look him up on YouTube. And

506
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 6: so essentially, like after that, I was like, Okay, I

507
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 6: definitely can't, like I should not even talk to this

508
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 6: thing anymore because it's not.

509
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: Going to leave me alone.

510
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 6: And so I stopped acknowledging it over and over, and

511
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 6: it would just keep doing stuff to the point where

512
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 6: it'd start tripping the alarms in the.

513
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 9: In the restaurant.

514
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 6: And so it'd be like twelve thirty to one or two,

515
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, the alarms would go off,

516
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 6: and so like I'd freak out because I'm there by myself,

517
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 6: and I'd grab like a kitchen knife run to the

518
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 6: front because there's only one way into the restaurant, and

519
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 6: so I was like, someone's breaking in, and so I

520
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 6: kind of like run, but kind of peak, and I'm

521
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 6: a little scared, and no one's there, like there's no

522
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 6: like broken windows or anything. And so so then the

523
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 6: security tapes they call, or the security people they call

524
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 6: the store and they're like, hey, like we're the security,

525
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 6: We're so and so, can you give us the code?

526
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 6: And I gave them the code and they were like, so,

527
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 6: can you describe trust what happened? And I told him, honestly,

528
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 6: I don't know. Like I work here at night. My

529
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 6: name's my legal name's Mauricios. I'd be like, my name's Mauricio,

530
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 6: I work for Papa Lunas and I'm here every night.

531
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 6: I don't know why the alarms went off, They're like okay,

532
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 6: like no worries, and so it would do it a lot.

533
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 6: So then my boss like would ask me, He's like,

534
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 6: what's going on at night? And I'm like, I.

535
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 9: Don't want to sound crazy, but this stuff like i'd

536
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 9: explain what would happen, and he would he'd be like, okay,

537
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 9: that's kind of weird, but he kind of just like.

538
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 6: It, dismissed it. And then the day that it really like,

539
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 6: I guess overwhelmed me because I wouldn't say I was scared,

540
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 6: but I was overwhelmed. Is that it was midday and

541
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 6: I was I had stopped working overnights because I was like,

542
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 6: this is just too much on me. And I was

543
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 6: there during the day with one of the other cooks,

544
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 6: the day cook, and it was weird because I was working,

545
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 6: and then I looked I could hear the other cook talking,

546
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 6: and I was like, what are you doing and he

547
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 6: and he kind of laughed and then he's like, no,

548
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 6: I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to other things

549
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 6: and then things yeah, and so I was like, oh shit,

550
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 6: my heart sink again. And then as soon as he

551
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 6: said that, all the alarms went off, and so all

552
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 6: the alarms went off. Our manager like ran to the back.

553
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 6: He's like, what happened? And so he went and like

554
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 6: disabled the alarm, had a whole talk with the with

555
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 6: the security people, and then they came like I think

556
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 6: a few days later, and they were like, yeah, we

557
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 6: don't know why it might be faulty.

558
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 9: And my manager didn't tell them anything, of.

559
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 6: Course, But then I talked to that day to the

560
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 6: day cook and I was like, there's it. I was

561
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 6: pretty much told him. I was like, there's this fucking

562
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 6: like that man dude that I see all the time.

563
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 6: And I've talked to the other the couple and they

564
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 6: said they see it. And he's like oh, He's like yeah,

565
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 6: I didn't know you could like see it or you know.

566
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 6: And we kind of like talked about it and he's like,

567
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 6: don't worry, it won't hurt you or anything. I'm like, well,

568
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 6: I'm not worry it'll hurt me. I'm just like I

569
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 6: want this to stop. And so he's like, no, don't worry,

570
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 6: it will and then after that it like never happened again.

571
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: Well do you think that do you think that it

572
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: was like a ghost that haunted the restaurant or like

573
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, a spirit or entity or whatever that haunted

574
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: the restaurant or do you think that it was you know,

575
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: the result of something that you were doing, or like

576
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: where did it come from?

577
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 6: I don't think it was nothing on my end, because

578
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 6: like anytime i'd practice witchcraft or like meditation or anything,

579
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 6: it would be in the confines of my house, and

580
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 6: so I would never do stuff outside. But like one

581
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 6: of I guess another side note is that I had

582
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 6: one of my good friends his mom's shaman, and so

583
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 6: every time stuff like this would happen and I'd be

584
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 6: in over my head, she'd be like, okay, like do

585
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 6: this or do that and then it'll help. And so

586
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 6: I told her about this, and essentially she said that

587
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 6: it was older energy that was just there before the

588
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 6: building was even there.

589
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 9: Oh wow, yeah.

590
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 6: And so that's why it's like it kind of noticed

591
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 6: what I was and started talking to me, and because

592
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 6: I wasn't scared, it kind of and to like tried

593
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 6: to see how far it could go.

594
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: So when an energy like that, like you were saying,

595
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: like it wanted to kind of like collab, it was

596
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: like looking for like you know, you want to you know,

597
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: to want to get yeah, do you want to like,

598
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, do some some which stuff together? What what

599
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: what does an energy like that have to offer?

600
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 2: Like?

601
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: What what can that? What are they trying to do?

602
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 6: I honestly, I feel like it depends on like it's

603
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 6: subjective to the energy.

604
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: I think.

605
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 6: I think with that one, I think it was just

606
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 6: trying to mess with me. I didn't feel like it

607
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 6: was even really trying to like it. The demeanor wasn't serious.

608
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 6: It seemed like a bully. And so that's why I

609
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 6: did not. I did not partake. Whereas like whereas like

610
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 6: I was telling you.

611
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 9: About how I have, I had.

612
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: Like a spirit guyde so like that that energy of

613
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 6: the spirit guide, it's way different where like his name

614
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 6: is Norman, and where Norman he's like completely different. We're

615
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 6: like even just the way that it feels, it feels

616
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 6: more inviting, where like this felt like the bully during

617
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 6: lunch trying to take my lunch money, you know.

618
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so what's the story with Norman?

619
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 6: Okay, So with Norman, So essentially Norman is this energy

620
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 6: that I associate it with like Celtic old like pagan energy.

621
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 6: And around this time, pretty much I was before I

622
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 6: started like heavily practicing winchcraft. I was in a really bad,

623
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 6: like bad relationship has kind of toxic and thankfully I

624
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 6: got out of it.

625
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 9: But I think after that I.

626
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 6: Was kind of reckless a little bit and just was

627
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 6: doing all this stuff, couldn't care less about the repercussions

628
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. And so essentially one night I

629
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 6: was doing witchcraft and this, uh, this entity came to

630
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 6: me like while I was meditating, and it came in

631
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 6: the guise of like a big bear, like have you

632
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 6: seen Brave?

633
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so like.

634
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 9: Meredis mom, that's like kind of what it looked like.

635
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: And it was really tall.

636
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 6: And he just kind of came like in this like

637
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: deep like trance. He came up and like pretty much

638
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 6: said like you need to stop doing this stuff. And

639
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 6: at first it really scared me, but he just said,

640
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 6: like I'm I'm here to like not you should not

641
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 6: be doing this stuff. You need to like calm down,

642
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 6: you need to you know, really like if you're gonna

643
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 6: do this stuff, you need to really focus your energy

644
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 6: on your on your intent and just you know, be

645
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 6: wary because things are always watching. And so but like

646
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 6: the catches is that I don't. I don't believe that energy,

647
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 6: like the spirit, so to say, the spirit realm, I

648
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 6: don't believe that it has like it doesn't subscribe to

649
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 6: like our morality, like our human morality.

650
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: I don't.

651
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 9: I don't believe in good or evil. And I think.

652
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 6: It's because like I whereas like with energy, I I

653
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 6: personally believe it's kind of like a food chain, so

654
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 6: like there's a lot of anarchy, and it's just like

655
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 6: it can be overwhelming at times. But like, for instance,

656
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 6: if you saw, you know, when people go in the

657
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 6: Safari and they see cheetahs and stuff and they see

658
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: them eat prey and stuff. They don't think cheetahs are

659
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 6: evil or they don't think lines are evil. They they

660
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 6: understand like, oh, that's just what they do.

661
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: They need eat.

662
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 6: And I think that energy is the same way. I

663
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 6: just think that you know, of course I wouldn't I

664
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 6: practice witchcraft in the comforts of my home. But of

665
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 6: course I wouldn't be like Zach Baggins and go to

666
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: some random mass building that has a lot of trauma

667
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 6: in the past. And I wouldn't try to antagonize that

668
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 6: energy because then you're gonna get of course, you're going

669
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: to get a response.

670
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too. Hello Jeremy from my home state

671
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: of Michigan.

672
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: Hello, how are you?

673
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 9: Oh?

674
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm doing the best I can. I mean,

675
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: I get to hear ghost stories, so I'm excited about that.

676
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I'm envious of all your ghost stories, but

677
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: I do love listening to them. So good job with

678
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: the podcast. I'm loving it.

679
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: Thank you. So okay, you sent me a message saying

680
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: that you have a bit. You wrote a big story

681
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: that is one hundred percent real.

682
00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Let's hear it.

683
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: Would be the Judge.

684
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is because it's I

685
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: don't know, it's sort of like you could totally make

686
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: a little movie out of this, I think. So all right,

687
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: this story is it's kind of a surrounding my great

688
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: grandparents in their house. And this is in Michigan, in Conning, Michigan,

689
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: which is like on the Sagana on the east side

690
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: of the state. The house is a house that my

691
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: great grandfather actually built himself, which I actually just learned

692
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: that this year. I was very surprised. And yeah, I

693
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: don't know when they got married. I'm assuming based on

694
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: the pictures it was probably back like the nineteen thirties,

695
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: and they lived there their entire life. So this happened

696
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: late eighties into the early nineties. I was younger, probly

697
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: maybe eight ish eight nine years old somewhere around there

698
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: when it started. So my great grandfather he had passed away,

699
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: and there was never anything weird or anything that ever

700
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: happened in that house. I never had any odd feelings.

701
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: After he passed away is when everything started. So the

702
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: first thing was actually the day of his burial, so

703
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: it was like the last day of the funeral. Everybody

704
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: came back to my great grandparents' house, and out of nowhere,

705
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: a parakeet flew out of just the sky. A parakeet,

706
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: A parakeet a parent. Okay, and so let me preface

707
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: this a little bit too. My great grandmother loved parakeets.

708
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: She always had one, and I always remember her having them,

709
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: and I always thought it I actually thought it was

710
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: my great grandfather that I always saw him playing with

711
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: them and stuff, But apparently it was her. She always

712
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: liked them, she always kept them.

713
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: And anybody that has never been to Michigan or you

714
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: just don't know this fact. Those are not indigenous to me.

715
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: No, no, not whatever.

716
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: I will add a lot of people don't know about

717
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: this place called Meyer. Do they have that in your.

718
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: Well, of course they do. They're everywhere. Yeah, I had

719
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: two to choose from in my area.

720
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm jealous. But I have tried to explain to people

721
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: what Meyer is, and it's it's almost like Walmart, but

722
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: like way better because you can literally get a head

723
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: of lettuce, you could get a haircut, you could get

724
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: a live parakeet. Yeah, they sell they sell birds and

725
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: oh as well as workout equipment, sweatpants, whatever you need

726
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: the one stop shop. Okay, So a parakeet that might

727
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: may or may not have escaped from my.

728
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you never know. Yeah, So it was weird.

729
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: It literally flew out of nowhere and it started flying

730
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: at the windows of the house like it was trying

731
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: to get into the house.

732
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

733
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: And yeah, and they're all like, you know, my dad

734
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: was Now I wasn't there on this particular portion, but

735
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: my dad told me about this, you know, and they're

736
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: all just like, what the heck, And they're all kind

737
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: of laughing about it, you know, because they all knew that,

738
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: you know, great Grandma liked barricades. And they opened up

739
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: the door to the house and it flew right into

740
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: the house. It landed it let them kick it up,

741
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: and they put it into a cage, and they just joked,

742
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 2: They're like, well, just here's Grandpa, here's great Grandpa. He's back,

743
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: you know, And it was kind of a joke, but

744
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 2: at the same time, it was sort of like ha

745
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 2: ha ha, No, this is really kind of weird.

746
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

747
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, so once that bird came into the house,

748
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: that's when the weird things started happening. So again, my

749
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: great grandparents, they were I mean, when my great grandfather died,

750
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he was probably in his mid to late eighties,

751
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: and my great grandmother's right around the same age, and unfortunately,

752
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: her health kind of started to go down the hill

753
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: a little bit, and my grandma and grandpa they left

754
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: their creepy little farmhouse, which that's whole other stuff, and

755
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: they came over and moved in there to help take

756
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: care of her. So I would go over there every

757
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: once in a while. At this point, my father, he

758
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: was a truck driver, and my parents are divorced, so

759
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: there would be some weekends I would go over to

760
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: my dad's and he might be gone and not come

761
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: back until Saturday morning or something, so I'd stay with them.

762
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: And I stayed with them a lot around this time,

763
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: and there was some nights where I don't know, you

764
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: just you know, when you had that feeling like there's

765
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: somebody else there in that room other than the people

766
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: you see, you just sense it. And that was the

767
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: sense that I got. And it was, you know, again,

768
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: I'm kind of younger to kind of creep me out

769
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: a little bit, but nothing had really happened at that point.

770
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: So one night I stayed the night. Now here's the

771
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: other part of the story. My great grandparents got a

772
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: grandfather clock. Now not like a big one, not the

773
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: kind that like you know, you see in movies. But

774
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: it's like one of the smaller ones, maybe like I

775
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: don't know, two and a half three feet high that

776
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: they hang.

777
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 9: On the wall.

778
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you know. But it still has the pendulum

779
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: that swings back and forth, and it has that very

780
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: loud noise to it, and it chimed very deep chime

781
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: on every hour. And I think they, like I said,

782
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: I think that was a wedding or a i'm not wedding,

783
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: an anniversary present like they. I think they got it either.

784
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: The late sixties or the early seventies, and when my

785
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: grandfather was alive, I would remember he would, you know,

786
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: everyone's well, get up, open up the clock face and

787
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: wind it up, because apparently it's that old. It was

788
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 2: one of the kind that you would wind it up,

789
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: and that was the common thing. You did it all

790
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: the time. So one night I stay the night and

791
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: I remember that night too. I was a little bit

792
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 2: creeped out because it sounded like somebody was walking through

793
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: the living room, and you know, like how you know

794
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: that sounds. You know, you can hear the floor creaks

795
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: in a certain way when somebody walks through, and I

796
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: would hear that, and it was a little bit creepy,

797
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: but I'm just like, it's just the house settling whatever.

798
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: It's fine, you know, and went to bed. That morning

799
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: I woke up and I just woke it up, and

800
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: I notice I'm hearing a noise and it's just this

801
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: this clicklicklick click click click click clicklick noise, and I'm

802
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: kind of woke up and it was coming from the

803
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: clock and I realized it was the sound of the

804
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: clock winding up. Now, it didn't freak me out. One

805
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent yet because in my mind I'm going, well,

806
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: maybe it does that, maybe it'll wind itself a little

807
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: bit every once in a while.

808
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have to like put a key in

809
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: there or whatever.

810
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, there's like, yeah, there's like a little

811
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: wind up key that you have to use. And there

812
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: was no wind up key in it. You know, it

813
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: wasn't in the little hole. There was nothing turning, like,

814
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything on the clock itself happening other

815
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: than you know, it was clicking and telling time, but

816
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: it was making that wind up noise. And I was like,

817
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: this is a little odd. So later on and I

818
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: was down in the basement with my grandma and just

819
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: out of the blue, like it's nothing, She's like, oh,

820
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: did you hear Grandpa winding the clock this morning? Uh huh?

821
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: Apparently this happened all the time. Weird. Uh huh.

822
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know, I maybe I'm just making this up.

823
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm like pretty sure that a smaller grandfather's clock they

824
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: call a grandmother.

825
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: Clock, is it? Oh, I don't know.

826
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: There's whoever started the clock industry put these weird gender

827
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: roles on the size of Oh.

828
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: So the smaller ones, Yeah, Okay, I see it's got

829
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 2: to be the woman apparently.

830
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: Huh apparently, So that's them, I believe. So I might

831
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: be making that up.

832
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea.

833
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: Wait, let me ask you this. So what is the

834
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: parakeet doing all this time?

835
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: Like, is the part it's there, it's living, it's fine,

836
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: it's doing its parakeet thing. So yeah, So so my

837
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: grandma told me that, and then my you know, I

838
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: kind of probably went white. And that's when it kind

839
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: of cemented everything to me, like, Okay, there's some weird

840
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: shit going on here. Now, you know, there's a part

841
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: of me that's going like, okay, so if there is

842
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: something weird going down in this house by a ghost,

843
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: at least it's my great grandfather and he's not going

844
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: to do anything that I would think, you know, to

845
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: horror anybody or to be creepy on purpose or anything

846
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: like that. So that was kind of like my own

847
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: little way of trying to you with that, and that

848
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: was cool, but I still always was a little bit

849
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: freaked out going in there, you know, especially stay in

850
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: the night, and there was you know, and since then,

851
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: there was a couple nights I would stay the night

852
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: and I would hear that damn walking and I would

853
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: think in my head, really loud, Grandpa, please don't do that.

854
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: It scares me, and it would stop. And I remember

855
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: there was one time we were sitting there, we were

856
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: watching TV, and I remember I looked kind of like

857
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: the living room is really it's really weird. It's good.

858
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: Like the living room like spans almost the entire one

859
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: side of the house. It's a really odd design. I

860
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: think back in the day, maybe half of it they

861
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: used as a more of a dining area, I'm not sure,

862
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: but we were like over kind of all the way

863
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: over on one side they kind of had a set up.

864
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: The TV was over there, and they had some like

865
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: recliners and stuff, and I remember I looked back and

866
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: like my grandma was on the couch across for me,

867
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: and my grandpa was in one of the recliners, but

868
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: there was still one more recliner nobody was in it.

869
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: And I remember I look back and like that reciner

870
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: was like facing towards the TV, and I looked away,

871
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: and then that dan klock started its winding a little bit.

872
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: That was it wasn't the full one, it was just

873
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: and immediately my blood turns cold, and again I think

874
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: really loudly, Grandpa, please don't do that. You're scaring me.

875
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: And it stopped. So I feel like, you know, maybe

876
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: if that's what was going on, maybe he you know,

877
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: because I always kind of heard that, you know, you

878
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have to verbally say things for a spirit

879
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: to really hear you, so I kind of you know,

880
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: and I never voiced anything, you know, and my grandparents

881
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: didn't say anything. I never really said it because I

882
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, I didn't even really want

883
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: to talk about it, not when I'm sitting in there,

884
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: you know. Years later, now I can talk about it.

885
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: But yeah, back then, uh uh. And I remember I

886
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: turned around and I looked back again, and that damn

887
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: recliner was facing in the opposite direction and nobody had

888
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: gotten up, nobody walked through or anything. So that, yeah,

889
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: I saw that. I didn't see it move, but it

890
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: was in a different direction, like not but five minutes later,

891
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: and that really, uh, that kind of freaked me out too.

892
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: So it was a lot of stuff like that. And

893
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: it wasn't always you know, it wasn't always creepy, you know,

894
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: as long as there was other people there I was fine,

895
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: you know, but it was like if you know, everybody

896
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: was outside and Grandma'd be like, you know, hey, can

897
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: you go get some pop out of that creepy ass

898
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: old basement, you know and bring it out here and

899
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: be like do I have to you know? Gosh yeah, yeah, yeah,

900
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: that basement. That's a whole Nothing ever creepy happened in

901
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: that basement, but Jesus, that basement was the creepiest thing ever.

902
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: So anyway, so time goes on. My great grandmother's health

903
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: was really declining and my grandparents was They had a

904
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: really hard time being able to take care of her,

905
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: so they ended up having to put her into a

906
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: nursing facility so she could get the care that she needed.

907
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: So there was the kind of like this is what

908
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: this is coming up to here. I was over there

909
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: with my dad within my grandparents, and we were watching

910
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: a movie and we noticed that the bird was acting funny,

911
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: like it was kind of like stumbling around, almost like

912
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 2: it was dizzy or something like it wasn't acting right.

913
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: And we took it out of the cage and kind

914
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: of and set it down like on the table, and

915
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: it was just kind of like it would kind of

916
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: fall over and then get back up, and it was

917
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: just acting really weird, and it was sort of like

918
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: an onset thing where we're all like, uh oh, you know,

919
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: like this this if everything that you know was in

920
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: the back of everybody's mind is true, then this is

921
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: probably not a good sign. So two days later, I

922
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: think it was two days, just a couple of days,

923
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: my grandparents got the call from the nursing home that hey,

924
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: you guys better get over here because we think that

925
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 2: she's probably gonna pass sous. So they did. They went,

926
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, they were right. They uh she she

927
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: had passed. They came home and the first thing they

928
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: noticed was that the bird was dead in the cage,

929
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: and then the grandfather clock the time had stopped on

930
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: the time of her death.

931
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

932
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that kind of cemented it for everybody that yep. Now,

933
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: whether great Grandpa was in the bird the whole time

934
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: probably would I don't know how that's gonna work, but

935
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: they pretty much were just like he came back and

936
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: he waited for Grandma and when she died, then they

937
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: left together, which is really kind of a really beautiful story.

938
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's a romance.

939
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 7: Novel.

940
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, exactly, it's just a little more creepy. Yeah,

941
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: I mean, and that's why I say, like it's so

942
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: hollywood ish. But yeah, I swear to God that that is, like,

943
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: that's the big weird creepy story that happened in my

944
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: family that I had a little bit of. Part of

945
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: that is.

946
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: A good one. Wait, so did how was the activity

947
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: in the house after that?

948
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: So the activity stopped after that? There really wasn't anything.

949
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: But here's the weird part. So it's been you know,

950
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: it's been like, god, twenty years now. So my dad

951
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: is actually he's living there right now. My grand my grandfather,

952
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 2: he passed away from a farming accident early nineties, early

953
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: to mid nineties, and my grandma lived there and there

954
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: was never anything weird. Now my grandmother she unfortunately, she

955
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: has developed really really bad dementia and she is and

956
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: she's in care herself now. So my dad's there taking

957
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: care of the house. So gosh, how long has he

958
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: been there? Probably like just over a year. So he

959
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: actually we uh, I'm trying to think, but I think

960
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: we had gotten together and he went home, Yeah, he

961
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 2: went home, and that night he went home. He's back

962
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: in that house, and he texts me, Oh my god,

963
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm so freaked out right now, and I'm like, WHOA,

964
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: what's going on?

965
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 7: You know?

966
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: And so he said, so there's the kitchen. There's like

967
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: a little bedroom off the kitchen, which is really just

968
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: used for storage. They don't really use. I don't think

969
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: anybody's even slept in that room in years. And he

970
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: said he was in the living room and he was

971
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: in his recliner watching TV. He's got his little dog

972
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: on his lap, which cracks me up, by the way,

973
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 2: because my father is just like two hundred and fifty

974
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: pounds mullet murk elven biker with tattoos and you know,

975
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: like total badass kind of guy. And he's got this

976
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: little multi shitsu that is like his third child. So yeah,

977
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: so she's on his lap and he's just sitting there

978
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: and he said, all of a sudden, he said, it

979
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: sounded like the door to that bedroom slam shut with

980
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: so much force that the walls shook in the house.

981
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: And he jumped up, and the dog went crazy and

982
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: ran into the into the dining or the kitchen and

983
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: was going crazy and barking. My Daan's looking around and

984
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, what the hell was that, you know,

985
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: and he said it sounded just like that door closing,

986
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: but the door was closed. So he's looking around. He

987
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: went down in the basement to see if there's anything,

988
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: and there was nothing out of place, and he's like, Jeremy,

989
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: I swear to God that it was that door. He's like,

990
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: I know what that door sounds like when it gets closed,

991
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: and it was slammed, and I'm like, well, that's weird

992
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: because that's like the first time. Yeah, that's the first

993
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: time that anything weird had happened. And then he had

994
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: something else happen again, I know, probably a few months ago.

995
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: I think he told me where again. He's like in

996
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: the living room, he's like watching TV, and he said

997
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: it sounded like somebody took like a like a pizza

998
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: pan or something and just dropped it, you know, from

999
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: like five feet off the floor and it just hit

1000
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 2: the floor and made that noise, and again the dog

1001
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: went crazy. He's running around looking and there's nothing out

1002
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: of place anywhere. So he's had a couple of those

1003
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: experiences and yeah, that I don't know, I don't know

1004
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: where that would be coming from.

1005
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: And so like but nothing was happening up until No.

1006
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 2: Wow.

1007
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so weird.

1008
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like out of nowhere. So yeah, I

1009
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm kind of interested to know what what

1010
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: else is. I haven't talked to him like in a

1011
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: week or so, and I'll have to ask him next

1012
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: time if there's anything else that's happened. Usually he'll tell me,

1013
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: because you know, he's very into ghosts and all that

1014
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: stuff too, so he's you know, he will definitely let

1015
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: me know if something happens. But yeah, he had that

1016
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: those couple of things happened there, which I thought was interesting.

1017
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Emily, Hello, Hi Emily, where are you.

1018
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 7: I'm in Boulder, Colorado right now?

1019
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: Have you been to the Stanley Hotel?

1020
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 5: I have?

1021
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 7: It's crazy, it's really creepy, but I've actually been to

1022
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 7: three hotels in Colorado that I've had haunted.

1023
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: Experiences that oh I took. I took a tour of the.

1024
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 7: Stanley Hotel and and like that was the least scary

1025
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 7: place that I've been.

1026
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, sours was it? It was it like a ghost

1027
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: tour or was it just like a tour of the property.

1028
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I went on a ghost tour. Around Halloween, and

1029
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 7: I didn't feel any like weird vibes or anything anywhere.

1030
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 7: I didn't see anything. The only kind of weird thing

1031
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 7: was when we were standing outside of the door that

1032
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 7: Stephen King stayed in when he got the inspiration the

1033
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 7: inspiration for the shining, and I felt like weird, like

1034
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 7: I was about to pass out.

1035
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: But that was it interesting. So what happened at the

1036
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: other hotels?

1037
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 7: So the first one that I went to, I was

1038
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 7: just driving back from spring break in California and last minute.

1039
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 7: I was with my boyfriend at the time, and we

1040
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 7: decided that we It was like three am and we

1041
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 7: couldn't make the drives all the way back like four

1042
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 7: more hours, so we were looking around seeing if there

1043
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 7: were any hotels that still had last minute rooms open

1044
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 7: that we could stay in, and we just found like

1045
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 7: a really cheap room at I don't I don't even

1046
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 7: remember what hotel it was. It was just some chain

1047
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 7: hotel like the Holiday In or something, and and they

1048
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: had one room available and it was like super cheap,

1049
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 7: especially because it was so last minute, And as soon

1050
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 7: as we walk up to the door, before we even

1051
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 7: go inside, I felt like this really weird vibe like

1052
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 7: there was just something dark in that room. And I'm

1053
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 7: sure it's like you know that feeling that I'm talking about, yeah,

1054
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 7: and yeah, And I didn't say anything because I didn't

1055
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 7: want to freak out my boyfriend and we were just

1056
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 7: exhausted and just wanted to go to sleep, and he

1057
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 7: fell asleep like right away, and I for some reason,

1058
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 7: like I was so tired on the drive, but when

1059
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 7: I was in there, I could not fall asleep, and

1060
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 7: I got I got these really weird like flu symptoms

1061
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, like I felt like I had

1062
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 7: a fever and I had a stomach ache, and I

1063
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 7: was up literally until like six in the morning, just

1064
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 7: like blowing my nose and coughing and like just like

1065
00:58:54,800 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 7: into so much pain all over the place. And and

1066
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 7: then like as soon as it showed up, because it

1067
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 7: just it just hit me out of nowhere, and then

1068
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 7: it just went away out of nowhere at about like

1069
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 7: six or seven in the morning. And then when me

1070
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 7: and my boyfriend, we both like woke up, and I

1071
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 7: said to him that I didn't want to freak him

1072
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 7: out last night, so I didn't say it. But I

1073
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 7: have a feeling that there's something like dark in this

1074
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 7: room like it was haunted, and and he looked at

1075
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 7: me and he was like, I didn't want to tell

1076
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 7: you this either, but I felt the exact same way

1077
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 7: before we were walked into the room. And and he told

1078
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 7: me that he has like this really really scary nightmare

1079
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 7: about like being in a haunted house and like having

1080
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 7: to save this little boy from like all the demons

1081
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 7: and stuff. And he never had dreams ever, so the

1082
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 7: fact that even dreams it all was super rare, but

1083
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Speaker 7: like it was such a vivid nightmare that he remembered.

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Speaker 7: And there's also like there were mirrors all over the room,

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Speaker 7: like two really big mirrors facing the bed, which I've

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Speaker 7: never seen a hotel laid out like that. I don't

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Speaker 7: know why there's so many mirrors, but like I've heard

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Speaker 7: that mirrors are like sometimes they're a kind of portal.

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Speaker 7: We were sitting there like taking all this information in

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Speaker 7: and realizing that we were in a really haunted room,

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Speaker 7: and we just booked it out of there so fast.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny how that was the only room. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that they tried to get like people to

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Speaker 1: stay in that room and they're like, h I don't

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Speaker 1: like it in here, it's like the last one that's

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Speaker 1: like the room that gives you nightmares and temporary flu Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and of.

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Speaker 7: Course it was like at the end of the hall,

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Speaker 7: like super dark, sketchy hallway, and it was it was weird.

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Speaker 7: It was cheaper in person when we paid than it

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Speaker 7: was when they told us the price on the phone. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: the up but yeah, the I had another experience in

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Speaker 7: a hotel and Boulder that was like even more terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it's the.

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Speaker 7: Hotel Bulderado and it's famous for being haunted, and my

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Speaker 7: good friend was staying there and I was. I was

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Speaker 7: going to sleep over in our hotel one night. So

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Speaker 7: we were just like hanging out and staying up late,

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Speaker 7: and we weren't like really drunk or any but we

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Speaker 7: were just having a few drinks. But like I was,

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Speaker 7: I was.

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Speaker 3: Pretty coherent, and.

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Speaker 7: Like I'm saying that now because like this sounds like

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Speaker 7: maybe I was just like tripping or something, but I wasn't,

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Speaker 7: and and neither were my friends. Like we were all

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Speaker 7: like just a little bit tipsy. And we decided at

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Speaker 7: three am that it would be a good idea to

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Speaker 7: go ghost hunting and just see what happened. So we

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Speaker 7: looked up what the most haunted place in that hotel was,

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Speaker 7: and it were these two rooms that were right next

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Speaker 7: to each other, and I think it used to be

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Speaker 7: one room. I probably should have looked this up beforehand, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually looking it up right now the bold Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Right, yeah, it used to be one room and there

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Speaker 7: was something like a double suicide in it, and then

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Speaker 7: they split it up into two rooms, so that that

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Speaker 7: room that had happened it doesn't exist anymore because they

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Speaker 7: they like redid the layout or whatever, but it's still

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01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 7: like that area. And so we were sitting in the

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Speaker 7: hallway outside of those two rooms, just like waiting to

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01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 7: see if we heard or saw anything.

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Speaker 3: We're just sitting in.

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Speaker 7: Silence, and and like it was just it was dead

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01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 7: silent in that area. And all of a sudden, I

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01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 7: hear the sound of like like someone trying to open

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01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 7: a locked door. And I looked around and I didn't

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01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 7: see any like door handles like moving or anything. But

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01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 7: I heard the sound really clearly, and I looked to

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01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 7: see if maybe like there was someone like pushing a

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01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,479
Speaker 7: cart down the hall or anything, and there was none

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01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 7: of that. Like it was just completely empty, and and

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 7: so I asked, my friends, do you hear that noise?

1143
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 7: And it was like they just didn't even hear me

1144
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 7: talking either, like they just kept sitting in silence, like

1145
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 7: nothing was happening.

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01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 3: And it was.

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01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 7: Weird because I couldn't tell which direction the sun was

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01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 7: coming from because it felt like it was like inside

1149
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 7: of my head, like it didn't have like a like

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01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 7: a a source or anything. But it just sounded like

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01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 7: a door rattling. And after I asked them that and

1152
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 7: they didn't respond, the sound got like even like louder

1153
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 7: and like more aggressive, and like it sounded like they

1154
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 7: were really like pushing the door in, like they weren't

1155
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 7: just rattling the door handle anymore. They were really like

1156
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 7: going at it, trying to open the door. And again

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01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 7: I was like, come on, guys, like how do you

1158
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 7: not hear that? And like I'm positive that I I

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 7: was talking and I was positive that I heard that sound,

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01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 7: and again they just like didn't even acknowledge me, Like

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01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 7: I was sitting right next to them talking to them,

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 7: and they did not It was like I didn't even

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 7: exist and I was like in a different like dimension

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01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 7: than them or something, and like and then it got

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01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 7: even louder and like more aggressive, and I was like something,

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 7: I felt like something was like coming after me, and

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01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 7: like only me, because I was the only one who've

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01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 7: heard it. And I just like got up and like

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01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 7: booked it out of there and like went down like

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01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 7: two flights of stairs down to the lobby, and I

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01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 7: was like freaking out. And then my friend called me and.

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01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: She was like where did you just go?

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01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 7: Like why did you just get up and run away

1174
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 7: without saying anything? And I was like, did you hear

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 7: that noise? Like the door rattling noise? And she was like, no,

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 7: what are you talking about? Like it was just silence

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01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 7: the whole time. And they got up and ran away,

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01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 7: and I was like, did you hear me, like at

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 7: least talking to you, And she's like, no, you didn't

1180
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 7: say anything.

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Speaker 1: I think you're a little like psychic or something.

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01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 7: I don't know it was. I've never experienced anything like

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01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 7: that in my life, and like I was so freaked out,

1184
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 7: Like I don't know if I have, because I have

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01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 7: experiences with like like happy spirits, like my friends and

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01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 7: family kind of like looking out for me, so and

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01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 7: I know, like my parents are kind of doubtful of it,

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01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 7: but like I know that, like I definitely have experiences

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 7: with them, so I don't know if I might be

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 7: a little but.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking up. Okay, So there's this article, Oh No,

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01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:55,919
Speaker 1: where to go? This is from the Genver Post. They're

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: talking about it. It says this woman that worked at

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: the front desk said that she received frequent haunted complaints.

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01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: When she worked the front desk. Two rooms get an

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01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: overwhelming number of reports adjoining suites Room three oh two

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01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: and three oh four, perhaps because of the speculation that

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01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: the hotel's famous suicides occurred around those locations, even though

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Speaker 1: the suite numbers were changed after a remodel.

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Speaker 7: Mm hmm, yeah, that's where we were. It was funny

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01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 7: when when I ran down to the lobby there was

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01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 7: someone on the front desk and they're just like, are

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 7: you good, Like they weren't even phased by the fact

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01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 7: that I just ran down there freaked out because I

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01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 7: probably see it so often.

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01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: They're like, oh this again.

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01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh my gosh. I can't imagine working at a

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01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 7: haunted hotel like that.

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: No, I also don't stay at a haunted hotel. Wait.

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01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: I want to look at pictures of this place. Ooh, okay,

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01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: it looks spooky. It's like a big brick building. I mean,

1212
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: it looks cool, it looks nice, but it also like

1213
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: looks old and looks like it has lots of secrets

1214
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: in there.

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01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 7: Lots of secrets.

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's interesting.

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01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 7: Like reading about the hauntings, there's like there's a lot

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01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 7: of different types of stories. There's a lot of people

1219
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 7: like seeing like full body like operations at like the

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01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 7: foot of their bed in the middle of the night.

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01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 7: Oh no, and like just like all all of that

1222
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 7: like crazy stuff. But I was like doing so much

1223
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 7: researching if anything had an experience like mine, and I

1224
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 7: couldn't find anything.

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Speaker 1: Well, to me, that sounds like you're some kind of

1226
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: channel or something. I mean, when you think about how

1227
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: you like physically got ill from that one room and

1228
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: then you're at the Stanley, you had like physical feels,

1229
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: it seems like there's something going on there. Would you

1230
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: want to explore that more?

1231
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 7: It's like kind of scary to think about, but I

1232
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 7: think it would be definitely like interesting. I honestly, really,

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01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean that seems like of all the different kinds

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01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: of ways that you can have psychic abilities. I feel

1236
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: like that I could imagine that being very like draining,

1237
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: you know, if you're like really tapping into going places

1238
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: that make you ill or make you feel weird or

1239
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: dizzy or I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, It's like those are the only two scary

1241
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 7: experiences that I've ever had, But like I have had

1242
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 7: a lot of just like really positive ones, like like

1243
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 7: with my Grammy and like with my friend, and like

1244
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 7: those are all just super comforting to me, and I

1245
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 7: feel like I'm good with just like having that in

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01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,440
Speaker 7: my life. But obviously it goes both ways.

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