1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Advice. Sure, it's nice and love and no. Welcome to 2 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: the Not Even Nis Show. I'm your house stop shooter 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: and it's Thursday, which means our dear friend Mark Looper 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: joins us, Hey, LUPI are you there is here right? 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: HOPI We've got a lot of gossip to get today. 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: We're giggling because we really enjoyed this. Like, honestly, sometimes 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: when you get up, I've had jobs that I just 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: haven't really wanted to go to, like a wake up, 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I never ever feel that that that 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: way about this. 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: Show me either, And I think this is the best 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: way to kick off the weekend for ours. 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: I love that your weekend starts are the first more 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: about you. You've just revealed that you have a three 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: day weekend. Mark. Actually, Thursday is the best night to 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: go out if ever you're in New York City. The 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: best night's not Friday and Saturday. Go out on Friday 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: and Saturday. They come into the city for a great 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday. If you can take Friday off work, 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: and I get a lot of us can't, including me, 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark, you can. But if you can take 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: a Friday off, Thursday night is the night to go out. 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: It's very lit and I'm going out tonight, so I'm 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: kind of excited. 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching you. I m you, and we 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: can talk about it next week. Okay, what time is it? 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: My friends and tea time? So there's amazing new documentary 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: that's out about America's Next Top Model, and it's a 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: really interesting documentary because it's looking at the entirety of 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: the show, the good, the bad, the ugly, the beauty, 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of stuff on that show 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: that you just could not do today. It would never 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: ever make it on TV. What is fascinating to me 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: is that Tyra Banks, who obviously was the star of 35 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: the show, the creative of the show, she sat down 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: and did an interview. A lot of celebrities wouldn't do that. 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 1: They know that if they've been involved in a messy show, 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: just to pretend it didn't happen. Not Tyra. Tyra's like, 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: I'll talk about it, and she actually says in a 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: clip from the documentary, yes, I know that we went 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: too far. It's she has to say that because they've 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: got all the evidence. After she says that they show 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: four girls fainting one with anarexia, like it's just awful, 44 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: and the one girl has a gap in her teeth 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: and they're just want and then there's a scene I 46 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: forgot they did this where they changed the color of 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: the model's skin and they did brown face, black face. 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: They made everybody. It's just outrageous what they did. So 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this. I'm really interested that Tyra is 50 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: part of it. However, a former winner, Adrian Curry, is 51 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: saying that she is not happy about this, and she's 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: calling it quote woke revision is so she's saying, we're 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: looking at the show through a different pair of eyes. 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: That's the whole point, that's what progress is about. And 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: she said it is a different time. I agree, and 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: she sort of supports it, and she refused to participate. 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: They asked her if she wanted to be in the documentary. 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a mistake. We haven't spoken about you 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: in a really long time. You did win this show. 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: If they did a retrospective of American Idol, I would 61 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: be part of that too. If I weren't, certainly, And 62 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff about Idol that we couldn't 63 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: do anymore. Remember when we used to make fun of 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: really disabled people, people with mental health issues. William Hume. 65 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Remember we used to laugh she bangs, she bangs. Oh 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: we laughed about that, and like, so we wouldn't do 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: that now. So I didn't see the problem here, Mark, 68 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: what do you think. 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I'm the I'm somewhat divided. I do understand 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: what Adrian's saying in the way of yeah, I think 71 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: a lot of things are problematic. Look at Late Night TV, 72 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: look at David Letterman, look at the things that they 73 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: would say to their guests and you know, exploit their 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: bodies and other things. And I also feel like you 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: know what you're getting into in some way. The show 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: is on for twenty three, twenty four cycles. That's many years. 77 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: Like you kind of see what happens on these shows. 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: So I feel as though, listen, I work for Tyra Banks. 79 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: It was shoot my first job out of college. I 80 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: worked for her talk show. She was really nice, it 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: was fun. I had a great time. And I think 82 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: it's smart for her to speak out because it's a 83 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: big part of her legacy. This show is a big 84 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: part of her legacy. And if I feel like if 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: she didn't say something at some point it would have 86 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: been a really big problem for her. 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, let me give you the best advice that 88 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: I'm going to give all day here. Leaning to the 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: stuff that you're most embarrassed about. If you lean into 90 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: stuff that makes you uncomfortable, you really grow. When I 91 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: started talking about my damaged on, which I didn't talk 92 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: about for like sixteen years of my life, I just 93 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: pretended it was fine. The minute I started to talk 94 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: about it, my life got a lot better. I didn't 95 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: want to be gay when I was little, and I 96 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: hid that for years and years and years. The minute 97 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: I leaned into that, the better it became. And the 98 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: minute I leaned into my mistakes. I have said stuff 99 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: that I wish I hadn't said, I have done stuff 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: that I wish I hadn't done. I can talk about it. 101 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: I can. And I'm so impressed with Tyra here, like you. 102 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: I worked with Tyra. I was Tyra's publicist and it 103 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: actually asked me to be on the documentary and I 104 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: couldn't shoot it the days they were shooting, and I'm 105 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: really bummed, and I really think this would be a 106 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: good thing. I was working with Tyra when she was 107 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: doing Top Model and she she was a show person. 108 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: She knew how to put on a circus. And it 109 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: was at the time of Jerry Springer and all these 110 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: shows and were the more crazy they were, the more 111 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: ratings they gotn't and Tyra really wanted it to be 112 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: a ratings machine. It was you don't last over twenty 113 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: seasons unless you're doing something quote right, And what she 114 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: was doing quote right, ended up being humanely wrong. And 115 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: so it's a really interesting question in life. We debated 116 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: all the time. Mark. We love our show, we love 117 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: the Naughty Butt Night Show. I dare say if we 118 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: went into politics, we'd get more listeners. That seems to 119 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: be the movement of the moment. It's not for us. 120 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: If you and me opened an only only fans page, 121 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: you also you'll do well. I'm not You're rather do 122 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: so well. But I think we'd get more viewers from that. 123 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: So you have to decide what you're comfortable doing. You 124 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: know a lot of people when I started gossiping Mark, 125 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: they called me the nice Perez and it was sort 126 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: of such an interesting thing to say because Perez was 127 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: so much more successful than me. He still is. Many 128 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: more people read Perez than me, But I won't go there. 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I'm not drawing pictures on your face. 130 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm not giving you nicknames. I just don't want to 131 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: do it. And it doesn't hold me to a higher 132 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: moral standard. It's just my standard. That's where I feel comfortable. 133 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: So I love Tyra. If you're listening to Loma Loa Low, 134 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: I saw her a few months ago. It's a really 135 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: lovely to have a catch up with her. She still 136 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: makes me smile. She's in on the joke, and she's 137 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: also too fearless. She's willing to sit down and say 138 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: I did make a mistake. I shouldn't have done that. 139 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: We did go too far. And that's what this documentary 140 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: hopefully I haven't seen it all yet, is about, which 141 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: brings us to our pole question of the day. Tyra 142 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: Banks is saying she went too far on America's Next 143 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: Top Model. Do you agree? It's a complicated question, isn't it? 144 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: So I think we can all agree what she did 145 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: back then. When you see the clips, it's shocking, it's 146 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: absolutely shocking. But let's remember too Entertainment tonight, we're putting 147 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: reporters into fat suits and walking around one square like 148 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: it was that time when television was a really, really 149 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: wacky place. It was the wild West. So what do 150 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: you think about that? Hey, go vote on a tweitter 151 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: page naughty nise rob at Facebook page is naughty yr Zip. 152 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Loopie, 153 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: what are you working on? 154 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: Yes, some happier news. Justin Bieber is planning his big 155 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: return to the stage. I know he's officially back. The 156 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: pop star will make his long a way to return 157 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: to the stage this Sunday at the Grammy Awards, his 158 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: first major live performance in nearly five years. No, it 159 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: doesn't feel as long as that, but the comeback comes 160 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: as Bieber gears up for a massive year, including a 161 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: headline slot at Coachella in April, where he's rumored to 162 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: cash in a ten minute dollar payday, and Bieber's recent 163 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: album Swag earned an Album of the Year nomination. Insider 164 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: shait the Grammy's appearance is just the warm up. What 165 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: do you think? 166 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: Hmm? I think this is exciting. I've always been a 167 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Justin Bieber fan. He has struggled so much and when 168 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: you take away the music, all you're left with is 169 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: the struggles. And I want to change that. I want 170 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: to change that narrative. I want to remember that he 171 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: really is an extraordinary artist. He's nominated for Album of 172 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: the Year. You don't get nominated for that unless you're 173 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: a big deal. I think they only do five or 174 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: six albums. I don't think he's going to win. I 175 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: think it's going to be bad, Bunny. I'm going to 176 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: be doing a lot of television on Monday. I'm already 177 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: booked all day to talk about the Grammar, so I'm 178 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: super excited about it. I'm super excited to see Justin perform. 179 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: And let's remember the Grammys has had iconic performances. This 180 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: is where you go to just change the world, to 181 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: change the game. I'm told Justin has been working, has 182 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: been practicing. He wants to put on a spectacular performance. 183 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: And who's not here for that. Music. It's the one 184 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: thing I think maybe there's a few things, maybe food, 185 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: music that makes the world come together. You can listen 186 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: to music with your friends of different backgrounds, of different 187 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: political beliefs. I love music, Mark. Whenever I'm in a 188 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: bad mood, I pop on some of my favorite songs 189 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: in my little headphones and I walk around and ten 190 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: minutes later, I feel like a brand new person. So 191 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: justin we're really really excited about this. Okay, moving along. 192 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie had a very awkward moment on the Today Show, 193 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: but I'm here to defend her. So Savannah was on 194 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: the show to her show, obviously, and Serrina Williams was on, 195 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: and she asked Serena about possibly returning to tennis, and 196 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: then Serena's response was a little bit tough, and Savannah said, 197 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: are you mad with me for asking? So this is 198 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: what is so interesting about celebrities. They bitch and known 199 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: that the shows where they used to go to sell 200 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: their products sell the products anymore. And that's because they 201 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: put all these conditions on the interviews. That's a really 202 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: valid question asking Sarria and Williams, who is no one 203 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: for playing tennis, that's her job, asking her if she's 204 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: going to go back to playing tennis. I don't see 205 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: the controversy there. I don't see the dig there. I 206 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: don't see the ageism there. I think it's Savannah doing 207 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: her job. And this is the problem mark when we 208 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: start letting celebrities and publicists totally dictate the questions, we 209 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: ask nobody watches because it becomes really really dull, tricky. 210 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: What's your views on this? Oh? 211 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: I love it, and I think you're right, Rob. It's 212 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: if you're dictating what people can ask you, then this 213 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: is more of a pr hit than it is an interview, 214 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: a news interview. And my understanding is from friends who 215 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: work there, there is no awful limits questions. They can 216 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: ask you whatever they want and you know that going 217 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: into it. So for her to then kind of play this, 218 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: why are you asking me this comfortable that you're asking 219 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: this question that probably a lot of people are wondering 220 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: about felt bizarre and I think she should have She 221 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: should have just had an answer prepared because people are 222 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: going to ask you. Your rep could have told you 223 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: this is the line and then move on. But now 224 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: it's this awkward thing that was uncomfortable to watch. 225 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: I watched it four times. It's so aw good. This 226 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: is what I love about that Tyra Bank. She would 227 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: have answered that she wouldn't have maid it an eyelids. 228 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't get it. It seems to be like such 229 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: an obvious question. I'm not sure why she was so 230 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: offended by it. I would have followed up with a 231 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: mega Markel question that would have shown I was like, 232 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: if you want to play with me, you watch Arby nastly. 233 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: If you want talk good questions, I'll ask you a 234 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: few walkward questions. I know, it's so bizarre. It is 235 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: so bizarre. When I was a publicist, I would say 236 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: to celebrities who like I was with Jessica Simpson after 237 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: she got divorced, after she broke up with Nick and 238 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: she was doing some interviews for her album, and I 239 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: was like, jess she will be asked about the divorce 240 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: that she was absolutely shocked. She's like will I I 241 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: was like, God, Like, the only thing they care about 242 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: is not your new song or your new sexy stilettos 243 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: you selling they care about you would think. It's just 244 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: so bizarre to me. It's like if you would be 245 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: had a huge fight, a fist fight, and we punched 246 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: each other and the next time we sat down and 247 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: just didn't mention it. No, that's the only thing I 248 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about. That's the only thing that is relevant. 249 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: It makes me giggle, But this is part of celebrity 250 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: culture that drives me mad. Okay, moving forward, DA's Shepherd. 251 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a very embarrassing question. Now, I've just 252 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: defended Savannah, but I don't think I'm going to defend Dax. 253 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: What did he do? 254 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Same here. So Dak Shepherd is catching some side 255 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: eyes after urging SNL star Marcelo Hernandez to pursue Sabrina 256 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: Carpenter even though he's already taken. Let me explain so 257 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: a Shepherd's Armchair Expert podcast are The actor admitted he's 258 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: obsessed with Carpenter and bluntly asked Marcella why he wasn't 259 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 2: trying to date or even marry her, which is very awkward. 260 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: So Hernandez calmly shut it down. He proudly praised his 261 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: long term girlfriend, who's an architect and very smart. Yes, 262 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: and fans were not amused. They were blasting Shepherd online 263 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: for overstepping rob This makes me uncomfortable, what about you uncomfortable? 264 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: And he didn't stop. I've had this happen to me once. 265 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: I said with Bruce, and he introduced me as his 266 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: husband to quite a famous person and the person was like, 267 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: oh my god, Bruce, I've got a really lovely friend. 268 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: I'd like, they said, you will put like you just 269 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: didn't hear what we just said, like it was so 270 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: aw awkward. People listened. People listen. If people tell you something, 271 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: listen to them. Right, you got a girlfriend, he got 272 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: a girlfriend. I think he says more about Dax and 273 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: I think he's got his eye on. I think it's 274 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: more about him, his desires. 275 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: He's you know, Chaer just said recently like she'd understand 276 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: what Kristen Bell sees in him, and I think we're 277 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: starting to understand what she meant. 278 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: Share didn't get it. Should I don't get what YouTube? 279 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get it either. Okay, quickly before 280 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: we get a break. I love this story. Photogate has 281 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: been exposed. We finally know what happened with Megan Markle's 282 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: photographs with Chris Jenna. Remember they went to her seventieth 283 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: birthday party and then Kim and Chloe posted pictures and 284 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: then suddenly pooved the pictures disappeared. Well that Kim is 285 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: doing a sister's podcast and she was asked about this, 286 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: what happened to those pictures? And Kim called it foot 287 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: gate and she said, well, they came to the party. 288 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: They're friends with my mum, which is so interesting. Megan 289 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: and christ Jenn are friends for a while, so they 290 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: came to the party. They had a lovely time at 291 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: the party. They took pictures, they posed for pictures. There's 292 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: some pictures that are clearly posed. Then people posted them 293 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: and they didn't post the meme ons. Kim says, like, 294 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: we don't do that. We only post glamorous pictures. We 295 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: know those Kardashians like a filter, like everything looks good. 296 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: And then the pictures had to be taken down. And 297 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: what happened is the Duke and the Duchess remembered suddenly. 298 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: Then it was remembered Sunday, that's a very very sacred 299 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: day in Britain. And the timing was terrible and they 300 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: didn't want to be seen our party, and so Chloe said, 301 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: so they approved it, panicked about the optics and then 302 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: blamed us. And Kim said, exactly, if you remember the 303 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: Sussex Cab sort of blamed the Kardashians for these pictures. 304 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: Oh yes, if you don't want to be at party, 305 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: and if you don't want to be photographed out dancing 306 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: going to a birthday party on Remembrance Sunday on Remembrance Day, 307 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: don't go. Don't go go it's that easy, don't go. 308 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I have two feelings here. One is a 309 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: common theme in this podcast, which we talk about you 310 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: can't have it both ways. So you can go to 311 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: the party and enjoy yourself and then expect to not 312 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: be photographed and people will see you, which is just 313 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: ridiculous and they didn't think of this before. But secondly, 314 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: I hope this is like a new trend or a 315 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: celebrities of just being honest and calling each other out. 316 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: It's like kind of how Ellen got called out by 317 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: Dakota Johnson. She was like, no, Ellen, that's not the truth. 318 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: And I kind of I love this this moment for 319 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: Megan and Harry, and. 320 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: I love the kid kid of all people as called out, 321 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: called out the Sussex. I love it. That's not true, Megan, Harry, 322 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: it's not true. You blame then. I loved it. But 323 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: they did sort of blame the Kardashians. They're like, we'll 324 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: blame us. All right, Okay, We're going to take a 325 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. Welcome back to 326 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: the Naughty but Naeham your host from she has had 327 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: an idear friend, Mark Luclu Haley p Let's get to 328 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: the poems. By last year we talk about how Andy 329 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: Cohen and Anderson Kipper is just done with Kathy Griffin. 330 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: It's over. 331 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: So she's still talking about them. She has some more comments. 332 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: They're done. They're never talking about her ever. Again, they're 333 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: not giving her any oxygen. It's a lesson we should 334 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: all learn. Her question was should they all kiss some makeup? 335 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: Is it easier just to forgive and move on? Ooh? 336 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: Seventy five percent said no, they shouldn't. They have fell out. 337 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: She was really angry with them, And I get it. 338 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: I was teeing Kathy for a long time here. I 339 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: don't think they did her right. But Kathy, if you're listening, 340 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: galla ba la ba lau, keep talking about them just 341 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: makes you look bitter. It makes you look really, really sad. 342 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: They don't care. You got to realize that. It's like 343 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: if you break up with a boyfriend or a girlfriend 344 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: or a friend, you gotta move on because they're not 345 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: talking about you. And here you are giving them way 346 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: too much time in your head. They don't care about you, Kathy, 347 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: And it's just cruel and it is hurtful, but it 348 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: is true. Okay, don't forget to vote on today's pole, 349 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: go to our Twitter page add Naughty Nights Rob. Our 350 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: facebook page is Naughty Glossom and be sure to check 351 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: back tomorrow to hear your results and nam ooh I 352 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: love the honest to hear a nicest of the day. 353 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Kristin Wig is pulling back the curtain 354 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: on life inside a SNeW and it wasn't always laughs. 355 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: The former cast favorite admits she suffered a full blown 356 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: breakdown after hitting a creative war on the famously brutal show. 357 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: She joined Bowen Yang and Matt Rodgers and our podcast, 358 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: and she revealed she feared she'd burned through every character 359 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: she had. She said, I've done every voice. I have nothing, 360 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: just three seasons in Rob. What do you think? 361 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: I love that she's telling the truth here. Someone like 362 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: Kristen Wig funny, beautiful, talented, rich, and they get burnt out. 363 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: We all get it. Doesn't matter what your job is, 364 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: we all get it. I was working in a shop 365 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: when I was in school in Edinburgh and I got 366 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: burnt out. I got burnt out at university. There's days 367 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: when I get burnt out doing gossip. And so look 368 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: after yourself and find some some some mechanisms, some tools 369 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: to help. But you just talked about music really helps me. Mark, 370 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: What do you do when you feel a little burnt out? 371 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: I spent a whole entire day on the couch watching 372 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: the TV. Scream. 373 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a brilliant You love television. You've always loved 374 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: the television. I love. Oh, I love to find me 375 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: a Netflix like eight parts exactly. Just watch the whole 376 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: thing in want. I don't even get out of my jobs. 377 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: It's all day long, okay, Now, naughty to the day, naughty, naughty, naughty, 378 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: and notice the day it's Hits magazine. Because they announced 379 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: that Taylor Swift was performing at the Grammars, She's not. 380 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Then they had the nerve to ask the Grammars why 381 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: is Taylor Swift not performing? And they say this would 382 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: not be an issue had you not said she was, 383 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: So be careful what you read, Be careful what you say. 384 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: You can't pretend you didn't say it. You did. And 385 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: so Taylor Swift is not at the Grammar, she's not performing. 386 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: But as Mark revealed earlier, we are going to get 387 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: justin beeB Let's end with a moment of rob You're 388 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: gonna rob you're gonna Rob, you get a rub. Everyone 389 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: you meet is coming back from something, a loss of fear, 390 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: a day that might have almost broke them. 391 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: There. 392 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: You may not see all the sleepless nights, or the 393 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: quiet panics, or the moments that they had to talk 394 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: themselves off the ledge, but trust me, they are there. 395 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: So be kind. Be kind. Kindness isn't a weakness, it's 396 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 1: a strength. It's an absolute strength. You never know. You 397 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: just don't know how close someone is to quit in 398 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: or how your patience might keep them going. This doesn't 399 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: just involve other people, it involves you. Two. There's stuff 400 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: going on in your life that nobody knows about. The 401 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: only person that has one hundred percent of all the 402 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: information about your life is you. So remember that. Be 403 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: kind to others and be kind to yourself. Hey, that 404 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: is it for today. Thank you so much for listening 405 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: to the Naughty but Nice with Rob and Mark show. 406 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: We're a production of Elvis Terran and iHeartRadio. Check out 407 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: my substack robshooter dot substack dot com. It's getting picked 408 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: up everywhere. 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Please pre 419 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: order it. This is gonna let me do more novels. 420 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this for the money or my vanity. 421 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: I just want to sell enough books that I can 422 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: write another. I really enjoy doing this, so if you 423 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: want to do me a favor today, please pick up 424 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: my novel. Hey, let's end with that tagline or remember, 425 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: if you're going to be naughty, you've got to be 426 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: let me hear you nice. Take care everybody. It's not 427 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: even nice with bro