1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Stay right here for our final news round up and 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: information Overload. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: All right, News Roundup, Information Overload. Our are toll free 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: telephone numbers eight hundred and ninety four one sean if 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: you want to be a part of the program. So 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Matt Gates had been in the courtroom with President Trump, 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: and we had him on and we got his take 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: on all that's been going on in the courtroom. And 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: now we see the judge desperately trying to move the 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: case in Alvin Bragg's direction because it's fallen apart so disastrously. 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: He took to the floor of the House of Representatives 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: and talked about the election interference that is going on 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: in this courtroom. 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: And here's what he said. 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 4: I rise to alert this House of election interference that 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 4: is going on in a Manhattan courtroom right now. And 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: we ought to assert our equities to ensure that federal 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: elections aren't subject to this type of devious behavior. This 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 4: entire case in New York is based on Michael Cohen. 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 5: He's one of the few. 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: People walking around the planet Earth today who's lied to 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: all three branches of government. He lied to the investigators, 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: he lied to his own sentencing judge, he lied to 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: this very Congress. But as if that wasn't enough, Michael 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 4: Cohen lied to this very jury Tuesday. There's a reason 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 4: he was held to the end of this case. They 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 4: were hoping to corroborate him. They couldn't. It has failed 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: and it should be dismissed. And otherwise the Congress should 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: certainly assert our equities to stop election interference. 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: Thank you, Matam speak are you'll beck anyway? 31 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: Congressman Matt Gates, he's with the Panhandle out of Florida. Sarah, 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: welcome back to the program. 33 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: How are you? 34 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 5: Thanks so much for having me, Sean. And remember this 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 5: is a federal election case. But the federal prosecutors at 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 5: the Southern District of New York who looked at it, 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 5: they said it wasn't worthy of a charge. And then 38 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 5: the Federal Election Commission, who also looked at this, did 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 5: not believe that any crime had been committed, that any 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 5: prosecution was necessary. So this is a not legal theory 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 5: where a local DA is trying to bring this case. 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 5: And it really fell apart before our very eyes when 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 5: Michael Cohen there was exposed not just being for a 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 5: liar of yesteryear in times past, but even this, in 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 5: this trial, before this jury, lying about his communications and 46 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 5: the substance to those communications as part of all this 47 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 5: nonsense that they've tried to criminalize because they want to 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 5: keep Trump off the campaign trail. So it's quite something. 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know that your listeners can 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 5: really appreciate how dank and dreary this place is. You 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 5: think about New York being this grandiose place with all 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 5: the atmospherics of the Big Apple. The reality is, I 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: think this courtroom got frozen in time about fifty years 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 5: ago and hasn't changed. And it's incredibly close proximity. And 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 5: you get to see the smirk on this judge's face. 56 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 5: He believed that this prosecution was his entry ticket in 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 5: the high society of New York. Did he would be 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 5: celebrated forever as the judge who got to put away 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 5: Donald Trump? And he's desperately trying to preserve that despite 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 5: all of the evidence cutting against the principal witness for 61 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 5: the prosecution, Michael Cohen, a liar proven over and over again. 62 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: What did you make of the judge's meltdown yesterday as 63 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: relates to Costello? 64 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: You trying to stir redrown. 65 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if it wasn't so ridiculous, it's laughable. 66 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: And then of course Bradley Smith, former FEC chair who 67 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 2: I interviewed, I played it early in the program and said, 68 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: there's no crime committed here at all, and of course 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: preventing the jury from hearing from him and limiting what 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: they could hear from Bob Costello that would impeach everything 71 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: Cone said. And now here we are, we'll have closing arguments. 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: I assume that in closing arguments they'll probably try and 73 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: limit what the defense has to say there and yet 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: to give free license to the prosecution. And I mean, 75 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: did we really need to hear Stormy Daniels talks to 76 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: dead people or the salacious details that are immaterial, irrelevant 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: to the case that he allowed to drone on and 78 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: on and on, did we really you know, even as 79 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with the case, But David 80 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: Pecker talking about catch and kill operations that he does 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: for so many people, again irrelevant, immaterial to the case, 82 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: and the allegation and even the charges his novel illegal 83 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: theory as this is, and it just really it does 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: begin to make one wonder, you know what jury instructions 85 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: are going to look like and and now I think 86 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: the judge in this case is purposely trying to tip 87 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: the scale back in favor of the prosecution because they 88 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: got destroyed, and he knows damn well they got destroyed. 89 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: Maybe a lot of things can't be that dumb. 90 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 5: It's an incredibly rare and powerful thing when someone's own 91 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 5: lawyer stands up and says that that person has been 92 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 5: a liar. That was what was occurring with my for 93 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 5: Cohen's former lawyer, Bob Costello, And it seemed that really 94 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 5: triggered the judge. That that got the judge so enraged 95 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 5: that he cleared the courtroom and had this kind of bizarre. 96 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: Magical the way. 97 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: The only other person that I know gets people that 98 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: pissed off. 99 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: As you how Trump, I guess. 100 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 5: I mean, I've never gotten a. 101 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: Judge that me And by not talking about I'm not 102 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: talking about a judge, I'm just speaking generally. 103 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 3: I'm all right, I'm joking around. 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 6: Go ahead, yeah, no. 105 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 5: While witnesses before Congress procure I'll plead guilty to getting 106 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 5: a few of them hot under the collar. But but 107 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 5: here for a judge to be so intemperate is indicative 108 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 5: if someone displeased with the direction of this trial and 109 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 5: how it seems to be going on the presentation of 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 5: the evidence, and so I think you're right to be 111 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: concerned about what these jury instructions look like. I would 112 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 5: expect that a good amount of the summation from pot 113 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 5: Blanche will revisit all of the points he scored during 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 5: the cross examination of Michael Cohen. They the thievery stealing 115 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 5: from the Trump organization. This wasn't someone who was just 116 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: lying to protect Donald Trump. This was someone at all 117 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 5: material times was working for his own benefit, for his 118 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 5: own financial benefit, to try to move into a societal 119 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: governmental class that he thought he deserved to be in. 120 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: And it may have just been an inter meddler in 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: this whole bizarre matter. 122 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: While I thought we were definitely headed at a minimum 123 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: to a hung jury, maybe an outright acquittal, I think 124 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: the judge now is trying to tip the scales here 125 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: in favor of the prosecution, and he's doing everything he 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: can possibly do. You know, and I'm listening to people 127 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: on TV. I really think they're stupid and dumb and 128 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: don't know what the hell they're talking about. I know, 129 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: the Trump team rightly has put forward a motion to dismiss. 130 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: That's not going to happen. 131 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: I know everybody's talked about, well, the right thing to 132 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: do would be a directive verdict. We know that's not 133 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: going to happen. We know that this judge, the Biden 134 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: downer judge with conflicts who should have accused himself. We 135 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: know he's gone all in now with the prosecution and 136 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: he's now going to double triple, quadruple down on it. 137 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: And the media mob they're doing the same. 138 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: Let me play a quick cut of you know, Lawrence O'Donnell, 139 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: Lawrence lost his mind. He's actually trying to downplay Michael 140 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: Cohen and the fact the revelation yesterday that he's stealing, 141 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: you know, tens of thousands of dollars from the Trump organization. 142 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 7: He very effectively got Michael Cohen to say to agree 143 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 7: that yes, he stole thirty thousand dollars. Later, when Cohen 144 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 7: was asked about that on redirect by the prosecution, it 145 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 7: didn't really sound like stealing thirty thousand dollars. It sounded 146 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 7: a lot like Michael Cohen doing the little that he 147 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 7: could within that calculation to rebalance the bonus He thought 148 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 7: he deserved, and it still came out as less than 149 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 7: the bonus he thought he deserved and the bonus he'd 150 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 7: gotten here. 151 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: Before trying to con admitted he stole from the organization. 152 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: What part of it does somebody at ms DNC not understand. 153 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 5: Laurence O'Donnell has acknowledged how devastating the cross examination was 154 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 5: of Michael Cohen, and now he's trying to suggest that 155 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: there was some rehabilitation. But it's not just the volume 156 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: of lies that will, I think, encompass the testimony of 157 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 5: Michael Cohen. It's also the nature of those lies. The 158 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 5: key distinction that Todd Blanche brilliantly brought out is that 159 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 5: Michael Cohen was not just lying because the job required it, 160 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 5: or because Donald Trump wanted him to, or it was 161 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 5: for Trump's benefit. Cohen was someone who was just a 162 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 5: gratuitous liar for his own benefit. And when he admitted 163 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 5: that it was stealing on cross examination, it showed that 164 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 5: the prosecution didn't really lay a sufficient foundation. You know, 165 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 5: in court, you always want to get the bad information 166 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 5: out yourself. You don't want the other side drawing it 167 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 5: out of your witnesses. And in this case, the worst 168 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: of Michael Cohen was undeniably drawn out by Todd's lanch 169 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: and I think it left a jury wondering when or 170 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 5: not this whole thing was done for retribution, because actually 171 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: Michael Cohen wasn't the inner circle guy that he thought 172 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 5: he was once Donald Trump was transitioning out of private 173 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 5: life and into the presidency. And this is a circumstance 174 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 5: of a sad man who's dinner and trying to take 175 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 5: it out through a criminal prosecution that again, the FEC 176 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 5: didn't believe was proper. The Southern District of New York 177 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 5: didn't think it was proper. The only guy who thought 178 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: this was proper was the DA who had literally campaigned 179 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 5: on getting Trump, had said he had gone after him 180 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 5: more than a hundred times. And it was a campaign 181 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 5: promise to bring this goofy prosecution that should not be 182 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: how criminal law is utilized in our country. 183 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: You spend time in the at the trial, in the courtroom, 184 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: time to really really take a good hard look at 185 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: the jury. But you know a lot has happened since 186 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: the last time we spoke. How do you think all 187 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: of this and clear the courtroom and the drama yesterday? 188 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: How is this playing out in the minds of jurors. 189 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 5: In your view, well, it's quite a commotion. When the 190 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 5: jury has to get up and leave and come back 191 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: into the room. They literally have to walk within about 192 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 5: two feet of Donald Trump, between Trump and the judge 193 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 5: in and out, and you know, to get the alternates 194 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 5: as well as the principal jurors from their specific seat 195 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 5: and specific row in and out. It showcases, you know, 196 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 5: the I think frustration on the part of the judge 197 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: that he really wanted to unload on the witness and 198 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 5: in some ways that only makes the jury think more 199 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 5: about that particular witnesses testimony. I was there for hours 200 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 5: upon hours of testimony with Michael Cohen and the jury, 201 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 5: and it was obvious to everyone in that room whether 202 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 5: they liked Trump or didn't, whether they you know, were 203 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 5: in the media or they're supporting a particular cause. Those 204 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 5: folks knew that Michael Cohen was lying when he got 205 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 5: caught in the lie about why he was communicating with 206 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 5: Keith Schiller, Donald Trump's body man. 207 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, this is the one minute 208 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: and thirty six second call and the text messages that 209 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: actually were timestamped at the time of the call leading 210 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: up to that call about him being, you know, upset 211 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: over a fourteen year old that he described as a 212 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: stalker making phone calls to him and asking Keith Schiller 213 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: for help. 214 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 5: Right, So, so, Michael con initially said that the only 215 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 5: purpose of this call was to talk about the Stormy 216 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 5: Daniels deal, and then text messages were unearth showing that 217 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 5: there was indeed a different purpose of that call. So 218 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 5: now Michael Con is saying, well, there were in fact 219 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 5: two purposes of the call, when he previously said there 220 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: was only one, and the text message suggests something else. Altogether, 221 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 5: there was one juror who seemed almost bucked out laughing 222 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 5: as Michael Cohen's lives were being exposed. It was almost 223 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 5: hard to hold back laughter because you saw this guy 224 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 5: get confronted with his own text messages complaining about a 225 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 5: fourteen year old of messages to him about the Trump 226 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 5: transition into office, and him wanting the Secret Service, Michael 227 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 5: Cohen wanted to know less than the Secret Service to 228 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 5: hunt down this fourteen year old and give him the up. 229 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: For under any circumstances, in spite of all the prejudice 230 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: of the judge in this case, and all of the 231 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: fundamental unfairness that we've been discussing. Do you see any 232 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: scenario under which there's a guilty verdict here? Because I 233 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: would argue, even at this late hour before they head 234 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: into next Tuesday and closing arguments, I don't think if 235 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: I surveyed that jury, that anybody would be able to 236 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: tell me what exactly it is that Donald Trump is 237 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: being charge with. 238 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you are left wondering, as the viewer, 239 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 5: what's the crime here? Again, because you know, familiar transactions, 240 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: familiar activities, just like the David Pecker testimony was. 241 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 6: If it's a. 242 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 5: Crime for candidates and campaigns to try to shape the 243 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 5: media coverage of what they're doing and what their opponents 244 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: are doing, then they're going to need a lot more 245 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 5: jails for literally everyone else in American politics today. So 246 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: I think that the guilty verdict is certainly the least 247 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 5: likely outcome here. I can't imagine on these sacs and 248 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: with this twisting of the law, any reasonable person that 249 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 5: could conclude that President Trump had committed a crime. But remember, 250 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 5: they've got to get all twelve, and I think that 251 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 5: that is exceedingly well. I think that they're you know, 252 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 5: I got the sense looking into the eyes and at 253 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 5: least some of these jurors that there was a real 254 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 5: appreciation for how bizarre, strange, unfair and unjust this prosecution was. 255 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: And really all twelve of them should conclude that if 256 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 5: they're looking at the evidence and not bridled by any 257 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: preconceived notions about Donald Trump for his presidency or as policies. 258 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: Well, we really appreciate you being with US. Congressman Matt Gates, Florida. 259 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn on 260 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: number if you want to be a part of the program, 261 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: all right before we hit the phones here. Well, it 262 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: hasn't been a good couple of days for Joey. This 263 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: from just earlier today where Joe Biden talks about signing 264 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: up Pack and Pack and Lack Act into law. 265 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 6: Let me close you this after I shigned the Pack 266 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 6: and Pack At Act into law. 267 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: After I signed the Pack and Pack Adam Lack Act 268 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: into law. 269 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: Linda, you know what that means? Can you interpret that 270 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: from me? 271 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 8: I think what he was really saying is I love alpaca, 272 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 8: I love al paka sweaters. I'm signing a sweater law 273 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 8: in that all people must wear alpaca sweaters. That's what 274 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 8: I got from that one, just saying. 275 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: No, unbelievable. 276 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: Now, it's not been a very good day for a 277 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: week for clueless Joe. And by the way, it's only Tuesday, 278 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: not exactly a hard week. 279 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: Now. 280 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: Yesterday they had to make nine brutal corrections to his 281 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: speech to the NAACP. Nine, I mean, Biden's first mistake 282 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: at the very beginning of the speech tells the story 283 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: about Obama dispatching him to Detroit during the pandemic. 284 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: They had to fix that mess. 285 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: Then, moments later, Biding telling the NAACP, He's humbled to 286 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: receive this organization. In the White House transcript that crossed 287 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: that organization corrected it with award. We're cracking down on 288 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: corporate landlords who keep rents down was changed to we're 289 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: cracking down on corporate landlords to keep rents down, while 290 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: another unfortunate sentence describing those who took part in the 291 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: Capitol riots as erectionists corrected to insurrectionists. You know what 292 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,119 Speaker 2: an erectionist is, Linda. 293 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 8: I think we should ask who is it? 294 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: Giapaul? 295 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: Right? 296 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 8: Wasn't it Giopaul who said that in front of a 297 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 8: full House of Congress when she was referring to Trump. 298 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 8: They got a lot of directionists over there. 299 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: A lot of erectionists. Then Biden, incorrectly quoting former President Trump, 300 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: is saying that there would be bloodshed if he loses 301 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: in November. That was corrected to blood bath. As was 302 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: a moment where Biden mistakenly claimed to have saved millions 303 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: of families eight hundred thousand dollars per year in premiums. 304 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: While Biden corrected his eight hundred thousand dollars mistake during 305 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: the speech, he replaced it with eight thousand dollars a 306 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: year in premiums, which is also incorrect. Never mind the 307 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: millions and billions that you and I talked about yesterday. 308 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 2: Then he tells the White House gathering that an American 309 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: hostage is still being held by hamas is here with 310 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: us today. Wow, Like he talks to dead people, talks 311 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: to hostages. Now he imagines that they're in the crowd. 312 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: Obama orders him to go to Detroit during the pandemic 313 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: and help fix it. Wow, I mean, how do you 314 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: have so many mistakes in one speech? It does make 315 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: a well pretty compelling case for those that have been 316 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: saying and predicting he's not going to be on the ticket. 317 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. 318 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 9: Uh. 319 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 2: Let us say hi to Tim and Tennessee. Tim, how 320 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: are you glad you called Sarah? 321 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 6: Thanks so much, Sean. I'm a child attorneyments for thirty years, 322 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 6: and I just want to magnify what Professor Dershowitsch and 323 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 6: Turley and and Trake out You're saying. It's just extrait 324 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 6: the favoritism that's being shown by this judge and the 325 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 6: fact he hasn't tossed out that trial when there's no 326 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 6: elements of a crime. They're trying to boot a misdemeanor 327 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 6: up to a felony on a federal statute that state 328 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 6: courts have no jurisdiction to bring. Just incredible. And if 329 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 6: I were a low information New York voter, I would 330 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 6: be ashamed because it would be to me like the 331 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 6: Edmund Tennis Bridge vote. 332 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: But Counselor, that's a problem a low information New York voter, 333 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: he just answered your question. They have no clue, and 334 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: now the judge is trying to prevent them from even 335 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: knowing the law by preventing the FEC former head from 336 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: explaining what the law actually says. He's basically trying to 337 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: help the prosecution recover from the disastrous trial that has 338 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: been and jury instructions are only going to be worse. 339 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 6: Well, those already been in weeks ago before the Dreams 340 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 6: got there. They should have had those submit and the 341 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 6: last little thing before pre prow, before they ever started 342 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 6: the trial, should have been. 343 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: How do you like the fact that Bragg, according to 344 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: a Costello, was given all of this exculpatory information that 345 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: was withheld from the grand jury? 346 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: How do you like that little development? 347 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 6: Well, that's that's clearly what we call plane air as 348 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 6: Brady material that should have been given and with exculpatory 349 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 6: Where is this their their their claim of a of 350 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 6: a crime being committed? 351 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: There's so many you get you got an A plus 352 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: because that's exactly what Mark Levin's been saying. 353 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: That's it. I'm done. 354 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: He's been right all along anyway, Tim, I got a 355 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: roll man. Uh uh no, I've never seen anything like 356 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: this ever ever. Rhode Island, Lou Next Sean Hennity Show, 357 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: What's up, Lou Where in Rhode Island do you live? 358 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 10: Well? I lived not of Providence. They live in Lincolnwrhode Island. 359 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 10: And it's when of places. I know because I was 360 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 10: on your show or the hand of the show, I 361 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 10: got one of your football's, your phenomenal, phenomenal host. You 362 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 10: greeted us all online. But anyway, I don't know, I 363 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 10: don't know where he stam of the Fumbshowan, you really 364 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 10: are an amazing. 365 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: Person, very kind. Thank you. 366 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 10: I think the gentleman. Before I talked about the exculpatory emails, 367 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 10: but in my situation, I have the cases, was one 368 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 10: hundred missing exhibits. You had the jury pool, who I 369 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 10: believe was pre selected, and I think what Trump is 370 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 10: going to watch out for, what you already know is 371 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 10: eighty five percent of those people are compromise and the 372 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 10: judges he's a lunatic. I think what he's gonna watch 373 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 10: out for is he has to get every one of 374 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 10: those people that were selected for the jury, because every 375 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 10: one of them can be compromised. In my case, I 376 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 10: believe the jury was actually selected, the whole pool was 377 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 10: actually selected before my case started, and I won't get 378 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 10: into that, but I think I think that's one of 379 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 10: the things Trump has to really look out for because, 380 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 10: as you know, these people have done a lot of planning. 381 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 10: They planned before the case started with the Green jury 382 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 10: eliminating all that exculpatory evidence and not letting it come 383 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 10: under their purview. And I really believe that there's a 384 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 10: strong possibility that the whole jury pool was pre selected 385 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 10: in some way. I believe they probably are shirpt and 386 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 10: circumvented the process that normally takes place in New York 387 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 10: and picking jury pools. So I just wanted to put 388 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 10: him Donold. 389 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: Well, they're supposed to have a you know, they're not 390 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 2: supposed to choose a judge either, and they bypassed the 391 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: process of having a random selection and they picked a 392 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: perfect anti Trump judge. I mean, it's pretty unbelievable. But 393 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: you know, well, welcome to the state of New York, 394 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: where things are more corrupt than ever. I can tell 395 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: you that. Anyway, my friend, I appreciate it. Eight hundred 396 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: and ninety four one Shaw in his hard number. If 397 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: you want to be a part of the program, Sharon, 398 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: Sharon in my free state of Florida. 399 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: Hey, Sharon, how are you fine? 400 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 9: I'm fine, I'm fine, showing I wanted to speak to 401 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 9: a couple of things about the trial, but just quickly 402 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 9: I wanted to say that we, the United States, the 403 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 9: UN should have sent just one word over to Iran 404 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 9: when this man died. And I don't like some people die, 405 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 9: but he was the head of terrorism and responsible for 406 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 9: so many, so much suffering and so many people dying. 407 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 9: We should have sent one word over congratulations. 408 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: The one word would have been, you know, good riddance, goodbye. 409 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: I don't care whatever it is. Anyone would be. 410 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: Appropriate, right, And I just want to just it's just. 411 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 2: Sad that the US sending condolence is when you know, 412 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: terrorsts like this died. It's just sad. It's just pathetic. 413 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 2: It just is so lacking in any moral clarity. And 414 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: it's just you know, they're they're sucking bootlooking that, you know, 415 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: the feet of terrorists. It's just disgusting and nauseating. And 416 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed as a country that this guy's our president. 417 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm just embarrassed. I find it embarrassing and I find 418 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: it a dangerous situation on top of everything else, and humiliating. Yeah, 419 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: it's humiliating when you lick the boots of dictators. Yeah, 420 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: and terrorists. Yeah, it is very believe. 421 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 9: He wasn't he wasn't. This guy wasn't apologizing when all 422 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 9: these people die to us or to Israel. He wasn't apologizing. 423 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: So no, they orchestrated it, they fomented it, they supported it, 424 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: they helped train for it, and they're they're in part 425 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: responsible for it, right. 426 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 9: Right, But anyway, getting onto the trial, First of all, 427 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 9: this judge is so bitter and like you were saying, 428 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 9: bitter and angry because he probably tends his hopes on 429 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 9: being famous for being the one judge you could put 430 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 9: Trump away, you know. 431 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: So well, let me tell you, this judge is dying 432 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: to go to all the prestigious New York New York 433 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: parties and New York social SOI goal and and all 434 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: of that. 435 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 3: That's what he's looking forward to. That's what he wanted 436 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: one judge. 437 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 9: But anyway, with isn't this election interference what they're doing 438 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 9: keeping him in court all day not one shortest? So 439 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 9: can't he do something to sue them for that? 440 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: No, there's absolutely no recourse for President Trump except that 441 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: on appeal, this judge is not going to dismiss this case. 442 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: This isn't going to be a director verdict. 443 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: It's going to be it's going to go to it's 444 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: going to go to the jury, and he's going to 445 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: give them abusively biased jury instructions. And you just got 446 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: to hope and pray that there's at least one person 447 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: on that jury that sees through this farce and it 448 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: is not going to tolerate it. 449 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 9: Right, Well, it burns me up as a taxpayer that 450 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 9: we're paying for the all the police protection the police 451 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 9: out there. I'm paying for all this, you know, with 452 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 9: our tact Anyway, I just had a question to ask 453 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 9: about the debate. Who makes up the questions for the debate? 454 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: Uh, well, usually the moderators. I mean no, but he 455 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: knew the questions I had for the De Santas and 456 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom debate, and all I all, I told both sides. 457 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: I told them the same thing. I said, no surprises, 458 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: no tricks. I said, all the issues you would expect 459 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 2: that the people in your respective states want to talk about. 460 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: And you know, I was. 461 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: Pretty clear, law order, taxes, you know, all that stuff. 462 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: And then I stuck to my promise to both of them. 463 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 9: Okay, so on the people from CNN and they're making 464 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 9: up all the questions for the debate, Is that correct? 465 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: That would be correct? 466 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: Okay, that's why fake Jake, you know, has no business 467 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: being on this being a moderator in that debate, right right. 468 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 9: Well, I think the moderator there should be one from 469 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 9: Fox and one from NN. I mean, that's the fair 470 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 9: thing to do. But anyway, with as far as the 471 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 9: questions go, you know, they're going to get them to 472 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 9: Joe Biden, and they're gonna have all pumped up with 473 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 9: all the answers ahead of time. I mean, when they 474 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 9: only be there if like they had equal questions from 475 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 9: the from the Democrats and equal questions from the republic 476 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 9: inside and not to be given into the last minute. 477 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 9: I mean, that's a fair thing to do, or equal 478 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 9: questions from CNN and equal questions from Fox News and 479 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 9: the last minute otherwise, I mean, he's going to know 480 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 9: all the answers. I had all the questions and answers 481 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 9: ahead of time, and they're gonna you know. 482 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: And these are just unbelievable times that we're in. But 483 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: what else would you expect. I mean, you know, CNN 484 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: has a history of giving questions to their favorite candidates 485 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: ahead of time. Anyway, so you know, I guess we're 486 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: just gonna have to wait, watch and see what happens. 487 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to our phones. Thank you Cheron, 488 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: appreciate the call as we say Hi to John and Florida. Also, Hey, John, 489 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: how are you, sir? 490 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: Hi Sean, thanks for taking the call. 491 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: On this what's going on? 492 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: Hey? Issues on the third debate, I think that my 493 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: suggestion is that President Trump should agree to a debate. 494 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: He should proffer a debate on Fox in front of 495 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: an audience and invite RFK Jr. And if Biden doesn't 496 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: show up, he'll have an empty chair on the stage, 497 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: an empty podium on the stage, and both candidates will 498 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: of course attack Biden, and I think RFK Junior would 499 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: draw votes from Biden, which would be all to the 500 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: advantage of President Trump. 501 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 2: I haven't spent enough time on it, but I will 502 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: when the time is right. Over Rfk's record, he doesn't 503 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: want to take my calls or do a show. 504 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 3: I did even did a. 505 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: Town hall with him, and I just gave him time 506 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: to talk and introduce himself to the American people. But 507 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 2: RFK is a pretty radical Democrat, and he supports reparations, 508 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 2: and he just came out in favor of race based reparations. 509 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: We know that his positions on taxes, the environment. He's 510 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: against fracking, oil extraction, keep it in the ground. As 511 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: his cam pain, He's voted for every leftist Democrat that 512 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: you could ever list or support, And I just think 513 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 2: that he has to show a certain degree of support 514 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 2: before he gets in a debate, and that is pretty 515 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: standard procedure. If he shows that he's on in enough 516 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: states to get enough electoral votes, and he shows that 517 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: he has enough support in the polls, then he'll earn 518 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: his way into the debates. But in lesson until we 519 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: get to that point, I wouldn't be debating him. 520 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: He has to earn that well. 521 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 6: I think. 522 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: I think the objective is to have an empty chair, 523 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: an empty podium. 524 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: On you can have two empty chairs, so you're gonna 525 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: you're gonna have an empty chair for Joe. I absolutely 526 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: would do that in a heartbeat, Like like Trump accepted 527 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: the debate on Fox and Joe Biden said no, I'd 528 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: have a debate setup and if Joe chooses not to show, 529 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: I'd have an empty podium. 530 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: That's what I do. 531 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: Not that anybody's gonna listen to me, but that's that 532 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: would be my way of handling it. 533 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: Anyway. 534 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: My friend I got a roll eight hundred and ninety 535 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: four one shaw a number. All right, the trial's coming 536 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: to an end. The battle over jury instructions has been ongoing. 537 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: Pam Bondi has been in the courtroom all day to day. 538 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: We'll check in with her. We'll get comments from Alan Dershowitz, 539 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Greg Jared. Also, we have Professor Jonathan Turley, Alina Haba, 540 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Katie Britt, also Nuke Gingrich, and 541 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan nine Eastern c DVR. Great show tonight, Hannity. 542 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: You won't get news on any other channel from the 543 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: media mob on the Fox News channel. See then back 544 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: here tomorrow. Thank you for making this show possible.