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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis en buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: is underway.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 2: A lot of news, of course, the protest madness starting

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Speaker 2: on Columbia University's campus now replicated on a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of other campuses.

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Speaker 1: Seeing it in Oh God, it's up at Yale.

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Speaker 2: It so, that's Connecticut, it's in Minnesota, it's I can't

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Speaker 2: even name all the states all over the place, these

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Speaker 2: campus protests breaking out right at the end of the

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Speaker 2: school year. Arrests have been made NYU and New York.

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Speaker 2: Arrest have been made there. So we're going to dive

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Speaker 2: into that whole situation for sure.

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Speaker 3: And yes, sir, I just want to point out something

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Speaker 3: you said yesterday, but I think it's very funny and

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Speaker 3: worth pointing out. The protesters are so upset about what's

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Speaker 3: going on that they waited until the weather was good

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Speaker 3: enough to be able to camp out in the Northeast,

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Speaker 3: to actually camp out on the quad.

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Speaker 1: They didn't use this in January and February.

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Speaker 2: Only military escalation, invasion whatever has been going on for months. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and yet there was no occupy the Quad protest in February.

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Speaker 1: It's very funny.

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Speaker 2: Now that it's you know, Hackey Sack and Patuli Weather

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Speaker 2: out in the quad. You know, everyone just hanging out.

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Speaker 2: They're having a good time. So we'll discuss some of

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Speaker 2: the madness here. And also, as we said, real dedication

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Speaker 2: would be University of Michigan or Minnesota or Buffalo protesting

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Speaker 2: out of the campus quad January. Then then you're committed,

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Speaker 2: like right.

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Speaker 3: Now, try to sleep outside when it's really cold. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it is absolutely brutal for anybody who has ever done it.

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Speaker 3: It's just very funny that it's now nice outdoors weather

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Speaker 3: and they're suddenly like, we've got to We've.

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Speaker 1: Got to take over the quad, We've got to sleep outdoors.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I remember I had to eat outside

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Speaker 2: once long story, during the worst of COVID madness, and

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Speaker 2: it was January and I was absolutely like I actually

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Speaker 2: lost touch with my butt, Like I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it was there anymore, that's how cold it was. You

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Speaker 2: never want to be like, is my butt still there?

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Speaker 2: That's a bad day.

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Speaker 3: I We had a camp sleepover in February for the

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Speaker 3: school that my kids go to, it's a dad son

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Speaker 3: camp out, and you could take all your boys. And

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Speaker 3: my youngest at the time was like five or six

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Speaker 3: years old, and in the middle of the night, he

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Speaker 3: just came over to me and he said, Dad, can

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Speaker 3: I please get into your sleeping bag. I am just

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Speaker 3: so unbelievably cold, you know, my little kid and youngest son,

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Speaker 3: and he just climbed in and just burrowed down underneath

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Speaker 3: just immediately went to sleep. I couldn't move, of course,

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Speaker 3: but it is funny. It is very worth noting, and

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard anybody.

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Speaker 1: Else mention it.

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Speaker 3: They're so committed to the idea of anti Israel protests,

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Speaker 3: but only if it's not that cold outside, which is

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Speaker 3: perfect for these people.

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Speaker 1: So we've also got We're going to dive into that

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Speaker 2: I've I've been analyzing the masking phenomenon on campus, and

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Speaker 2: it's complicated and very interesting because there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of these protesters wearing masks. See the photos, you see

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Speaker 2: the videos.

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Speaker 1: Why.

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Speaker 2: I know everyone thinks they know why, but it's actually

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Speaker 2: different things depending on the protesters we're talking about. I'll

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Speaker 2: get into that in a moment. This story. Clay sent

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Speaker 2: this to me, and this one just infuriates me. This

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Speaker 2: American dad, father of two, is arrested returning from his

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Speaker 2: vacation in the Turks and Caicos Islands in the Caribbean.

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Speaker 2: This kind of hits home. I was just in the

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Speaker 2: Caribbean myself, and he faces a mandatory twelve year prison

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Speaker 2: sentence for having a few hunting rifle. I believe it's rifle.

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Speaker 2: It might be shotgun on it. Even know a hunting

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Speaker 2: ammunition rounds for hunting. It wasn't clear.

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Speaker 3: Not a weapon, not a weapon, not just a bag

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Speaker 1: It was a mistake. Anyone.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'll tell you I have and I was taught

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Speaker 2: this by a Special Forces guy. He said, first of all,

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Speaker 2: no one ever packs your gear before you go out onto.

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Speaker 1: The range or off the range.

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Speaker 2: But you never let anyone else pack when you're dealing

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Speaker 2: they're loose. Loose rounds happen all the time. He said,

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Speaker 2: you were always It's almost like the airport things. If

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Speaker 2: and from the range. And it's because of situations like this,

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Speaker 2: and so anyway, it drives me insane.

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Speaker 1: There is no justice.

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Speaker 2: If somebody for an inadvertent mistake with no cost to

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Speaker 2: anyone or anything, it faces prison time. I want to

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Speaker 2: discuss that in a little bit morning, console Bloomberg Poll.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into this. I'm gonna have to calm Clay

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Speaker 2: down a little bit. It's a little early, still, Clay,

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Speaker 2: it's a little early, all right. We don't have we

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Speaker 2: we can't get too excited. We got to keep our composure.

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Speaker 2: Trump is absolutely trouncing by in all of these polls, Okay,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna have We're gonna have to just look

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Speaker 2: at that reality, not get too far ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 2: And then Supreme Court is looking at an Idaho abortion

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Speaker 2: law federal law. And I've got some thoughts, Clay on

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Speaker 2: how they're taking this. Oh, one more thing, Walmart getting

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Speaker 2: rid of some automated checkout stations, but not because of efficiency.

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Speaker 2: We will discuss that. Walmart's already starting to phase it out.

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Speaker 2: But let's start with this. I I was like, look,

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Speaker 2: you're hearing some sanity from people out there in the

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Speaker 2: media in surprising places. And I think it's in part

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Speaker 2: because one they're worried about the they're honestly the backlash

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Speaker 2: for the Jewish community in this country in an election year,

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Speaker 2: and and you know, they probably should be right also, Clay,

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Speaker 2: I think that they so so they recognize the politics

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Speaker 2: of those moments. But first off, this was this was

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Speaker 2: in a second. Pardon me for quoting without sighting, but

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Speaker 2: I'll have to quote it. Part of the reason, say

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Speaker 2: organizers at Columbia that they're masking remains an attempt to

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Speaker 2: make a point about exposure to COVID nineteen and other

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Speaker 2: health risks, which some in the protest movement believe remains dire.

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Speaker 2: Part of it is the threat of a different kind

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Speaker 2: of exposure from being captured by facial recognition technology or

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Speaker 2: being docks by counter protesters. Clay I was saying this,

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Speaker 2: I think you can tell the difference because if you're

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Speaker 2: that you associate with Hamas and this is like, hey,

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Speaker 1: You go with that.

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Speaker 2: But if you're wearing a surgical mask, which look in

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Speaker 1: They still think COVID is a dire threat. They believe that.

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Speaker 3: You know, there used to be laws to not allow

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Speaker 1: Go figure, we need to bring back this.

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Speaker 2: It's a public safety issue in New York for two

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Speaker 2: It is absolutely sensible policy to say your face must

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Speaker 3: I think even more so it had to be connected

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Speaker 3: it's evidence to me that these people are in a cult.

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Speaker 3: And the scary thing about cults for anyone out there

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Speaker 3: this has been my argument for whatever your political beliefs are,

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Speaker 3: you can be the most diehard Trump supporter out there

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Speaker 1: Don't be cult like.

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Speaker 3: Look at the facts and be willing to have a

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Speaker 3: you're the candidate yourself. You should never agree with anyone

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Speaker 2: But I know Clay is wrong sometimes and I have

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Speaker 1: That eating ice cream alone is not a problem.

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Speaker 3: So and if we needed someone, Laura Travis would be

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Speaker 3: very happy to call in and lit a litany of

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Speaker 3: twenty years of marriage. And I'm sure Carrie, even though

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Speaker 2: I am wrong sometimes, I'm wrong sometimes, and I apologize

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Speaker 2: in advance for all of those wrongs that I have not. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's a very smart married man thing to do. All

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Speaker 2: of you out there should be willing to challenge conventional

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Speaker 3: And I think you said it also, and it's worth

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Speaker 3: Data tweeted about it too, which you're talking about. They

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Speaker 3: surgical masks. Can you imagine being a parent that is

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Speaker 2: I have some disconcerting news for you, mister Clay, speaking

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Speaker 2: about keeping it real here, more and more it is

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Speaker 1: I got an email that.

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Speaker 3: It's it's the women's side of Columbia's Barnard right Barnard. Yes,

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Speaker 2: These people see you remember you live in a red state.

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Speaker 3: What kind of makes sense of the craziness going on.

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Speaker 2: Well that's every day, but particularly the insanity on college

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Speaker 1: They're holtic all over New York. The Girls Party. You

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Speaker 3: in a residential area. On an airplane, you shouldn't pull

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Speaker 3: out your phone scream at Eric Adams. But Buck, this

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Speaker 3: is what they have unleashed. The Left doesn't know how

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Speaker 3: to put the genie back in the bottle, and now

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Speaker 3: they're turning. Instead of going after the great Satan, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: they now are turning on each other.

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Speaker 1: And this is what the Left does.

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Speaker 3: I've been waiting for it, French Revolution style to turn

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Speaker 3: on itself. And I think with the Israel protest, with

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Speaker 3: the heckling that we're seeing happen of Eric Adams. Even

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Speaker 3: Alec Baldwin, strongman of the Left, got ridiculed at his

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Speaker 3: coffee shop for not being willing to scream free Palestine.

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Speaker 2: I think for the first time on the show say

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Speaker 2: that we stand with Alec Baldwin, which is.

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Speaker 1: The very first time.

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Speaker 2: But you know, if you're acting like a jerk in

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Speaker 2: public and just harassing somebody. It's not discourse, it's not

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Speaker 2: changing anyone's minds, it's not winning overhearts and minds. It's

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Speaker 2: just an act of pure intimidation. And that's why what

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Speaker 2: they're doing on campus and the stuff they're saying about.

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Speaker 1: Jews and Jewish support for Israel.

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Speaker 2: And notice that Eric Adams supports the genocide in Gaza.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of us, it's not a genocide.

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Speaker 2: Second of all, Eric Adams doesn't support it, and third

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Speaker 2: of all, that woman is an idiot.

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Speaker 3: And what could he do even if he did support it, Like,

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Speaker 3: what does the mayor of New York City have to

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Speaker 3: do with something that's happening five thousand miles away from

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Speaker 3: him or whatever the mileage total is, As if they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be like, we weren't really sure what to do

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Speaker 3: to respond to the terror attack, but Eric Adams, the

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Speaker 3: mayor of New York.

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Speaker 1: City, made a statement, and so we're going to change

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Speaker 1: our mind.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is why Israel Palestine for the Left is

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Speaker 2: such a perfect issue of virtue signal. And we've talked

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Speaker 2: about a racial dynamic, then there's a religious dynamic, the

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Speaker 2: anti colonial stuff, and of course anti anti Semitism broadly,

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Speaker 2: but also it's like climate change, it's an issue that everybody.

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Speaker 2: The proximity that you have to it is such that

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Speaker 2: you get to shout and scream and make demands and

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Speaker 2: do nothing and think that you're a good person.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: No one is saying to these protesters, why don't you

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Speaker 2: go to Gaza and you know, work in the you know,

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Speaker 2: work in humanitarian capacity there or anything else. They just

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Speaker 2: get to spew this nonsense. And then there's also just

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Speaker 2: the idiocy of young people who are brainwashed. And I

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Speaker 2: think we shouldn't forget that we have Rudy Giuliani, Yes,

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Speaker 2: the Rudy Giuliani shared this out a moment ago on

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Speaker 2: his Twitter account. This is a I said YESTERD in

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Speaker 2: the show. If I were in New York, I would

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Speaker 2: go to these things and I would ask questions because

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Speaker 2: you're gonna just it's a gold mine of content, because

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Speaker 2: these people are are crazy, nasty and dumb.

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Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly that's what these press. YEA, the professors too. Mind you.

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Speaker 2: Right here is one of the and I know it's

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Speaker 2: only one, but I think it's indicative of many more

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Speaker 2: and the mindset. Here is one of the protesters outside

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Speaker 2: of NYU play it.

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Speaker 1: What would you say is the main goal with tonight's protesting.

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Speaker 1: I think the goal is just showing our support for

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Speaker 1: Palestine and demanding that NYU stops. I honestly don't know

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Speaker 1: all of what NYU's doing. Is there something that NYU's doing.

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Speaker 1: I really don't know. I'm pretty sure there. Do you

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Speaker 1: know what ny is doing about that?

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Speaker 2: Israel?

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Speaker 4: Why are we protesting here?

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Speaker 1: That was more educated.

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Speaker 2: I'm not either.

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Speaker 1: I can't play in Numbia. I was there on Ocadombia

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Speaker 1: and we came down and our support, so I came down.

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Speaker 1: I've heard there's lots of pops.

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Speaker 2: Some people were saying it was getting dangerous play for

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Speaker 2: for first leftists, it's just a social outing, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's Oh, we were at Columbia protesting and like hanging out,

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Speaker 2: and like now we're down at NYU and it's like,

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Speaker 2: what is it, am, why are you even doing about this?

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Speaker 1: Like do you know? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's this is just they get to bang like like

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Speaker 2: spoiled bracts. They get to bang pots and pans together

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Speaker 2: and demand attention. Nah, And they're not even calling for

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Speaker 2: a cease far anymore. Notice they're calling for Palestine to

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Speaker 2: be free. What does that mean? Cause is free and

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Speaker 2: it's a horrible place. Okay, it's a horrible place. The

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Speaker 2: Palestinians have made very poor decisions.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you those girls posted on social media about

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Speaker 3: the fact that they went to the Free Palestine protest,

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Speaker 3: and they probably got favorable responses on social media, which

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Speaker 3: is again reflective of the fact that this is a

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Speaker 3: social contagion. I don't really even understand. Initially, I think

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Speaker 3: the idea of the college protest. Correct me if I'm wrong, Buck,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to be logical here and understand what they're demanding.

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Speaker 3: I believe they were initially demanding that there be a

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Speaker 3: divestment of any assets that were connected to Israel. But

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Speaker 3: does anybody even know understand how or First of all,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many assets there are that are

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Speaker 3: connected to Israel. But the idea that you're going to

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Speaker 3: demand that somebody sell anything that's connected to Israel, first

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Speaker 3: of all, it's the most impossible. But secondly, they don't

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Speaker 3: even understand what that What would that do?

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Speaker 2: Clay, they it's the whole thing is is preposterous. But

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Speaker 2: also again, I'm a native New Yorker, NYU and Columbia

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00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: have received enormous amounts of money from Jewish American donors. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and so these campuses are caught in quite a bind

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Speaker 2: because the stuff that is being said about Jewish Americans

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Speaker 2: the Jewish people who support Israel, and that's kind of

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Speaker 2: the defining or the separating line here because there are

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Speaker 2: Jewish protesters too. We should not lose sight of that.

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Speaker 2: As I and Clay, this goes to why I've been

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Speaker 2: telling you, I don't think the vote's going to change

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Speaker 2: that much. You said ten percent that could happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not going to be eighty twenty. Though in favor

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Speaker 2: of Trump, I'd stake anything on that it might move

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Speaker 2: a little bit. There are Jewish pro Hamas protesters in America.

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Speaker 2: As crazy as that sounds to everybody, it is a reality.

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Speaker 2: They think this is a moral crusade for them as well.

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Speaker 3: It would be one thing if they had started this

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Speaker 3: moral crusade before October seventh, But after October seventh, it's

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Speaker 3: really hard to decide that you need to go on

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Speaker 3: a moral crusade to attack Israel, because again, once twelve

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Speaker 3: hundred Jews got murdered in cold blood. It's very hard

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Speaker 3: to argue, Oh, the group that supported and put them

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Speaker 3: in power Hamas in Gaza is somehow deserving of your

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Speaker 3: commendation and support.

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Speaker 2: There's also a backstory here, And as I said, I

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Speaker 2: started out my Midi studies, and I'm not an Arab

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Speaker 2: Israeli experts specifically, that's something that people spend their whole

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Speaker 2: lives on. But I started out working at the Washington

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Speaker 2: Institute for New Policy as an intern for Dennis Ross,

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Speaker 2: Clinton's envoy for the peace negotiations. I worked on the

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Speaker 2: book The Missing Piece, which you can it's very boring,

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Speaker 2: don't buy it. But I worked on that book as

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Speaker 2: a fact checker for a summer. And so I started

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Speaker 2: out on this issue, and so I have some institutional

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Speaker 2: memory of it, or just some some understanding of the

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Speaker 2: history and even the more recent history. Gaza was the

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Speaker 2: the Israelis, with tremendous internal opposition to it, pulled out

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Speaker 2: and said, fine, fine, we're gonna get rid of all

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Speaker 2: these settlements. We're gonna take people, literally Jews, kicking and

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Speaker 2: screaming from some of these settlements that are in this

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Speaker 2: area of God, and and Gaza will belong only to

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Speaker 2: the Palestinians. And it was a very difficult decision Internally.

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Speaker 2: It israelt the time because the Israelis were like, why

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Speaker 2: this would be ours? This is not but put that aside.

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Speaker 2: They did it. They gave them greater autonomy, They let

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Speaker 2: them hold their own elections, and they elected terror psychopaths

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Speaker 2: who throw gay people off of buildings and who engage

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Speaker 2: mass murder. And you find out there are consequences. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what else to say. What is what are

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Speaker 2: the Israelly supposed to say? Now, yeah, let's give them

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Speaker 2: more autonomy and freedom, let's give them more acts of

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Speaker 2: good faith.

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Speaker 1: But how many people do you think.

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Speaker 2: Even know Clay that Gaza, about the evacuation from Gaza

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Speaker 2: who are protesting here. I bet you five out of

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Speaker 2: one hundred kids in these protests even knows that that happened.

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Speaker 2: And the people who are all like jumping on this

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Speaker 2: bandwagon and talking about this as though it's some kind

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Speaker 2: of an uprising for justice, they're abject morons.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, they know nothing. College kids are dumb and have

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Speaker 1: been dumb for a long time.

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Speaker 3: We were in college and we're pretty smart, and our listeners,

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Speaker 3: some of them are in college and they're very smart,

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Speaker 3: so let's not get crazy. But I'm less concerned with

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Speaker 3: the college kids stupidity, more concerned with faculty Columbia and

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Speaker 3: NYU faculty showing up to create a human shield to

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Speaker 3: prevent any removal of these tents from the quad and everything.

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Speaker 2: That masks the professor. This is why I said, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's not about fear of employment. Their tenured professors at

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Speaker 2: these schools. They're wearing masks because of COVID and because

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Speaker 2: of solidarity with the communist visual of the mask.

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Speaker 3: They're in their forties, fifties, and sixties. They're far too

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Speaker 3: old to be this dumb. And that is why I

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Speaker 3: say they're in a cult, and they aren't willing to

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Speaker 3: recognize the fact that they're in a cult. They think

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Speaker 3: that they are the smart ones. We also have another other.

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Speaker 2: They definitely think that they have another man on the

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Speaker 2: street interview where a journalist goes up and asks them,

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Speaker 2: will you just condemn like the murder of Jews as

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Speaker 2: a matter of principle, you condemn the October seventh attacks.

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Speaker 2: We will play some of that audio for you. What

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 3: We now are talking about these protests happening on Columbia, NYU.

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Speaker 3: We know it's happened at Harvard, University of Pennsylvania, all

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Speaker 3: Explain to me why these crazy lunatic protesters are not

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Speaker 3: going to do in Chicago in August what they did

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Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty eight at the Democrat National Convention that

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Speaker 3: also happened in Chicago, to such an extent that if

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Speaker 3: I lived in Chicago right now, I would already be

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Speaker 3: a bit nervous about what was going to happen. Now

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Speaker 3: they may show up. You and I are going to

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Speaker 3: be for the week up in Milwaukee we love. All

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Speaker 3: of our listeners all over Wisconsin will be up there

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Speaker 3: for the week.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be amazing all these civilized people who love America, freedom,

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Speaker 2: the constitution, and decency and public order all gathered together.

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Speaker 3: I imagine there will be some protesters up there, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think they'll show up in the same way

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Speaker 3: that they will in Chicago. And I think what they're

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Speaker 3: hoping buck and we'll talk more about this is I

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Speaker 3: believe graduation at Columbia as May fifteenth. I think what

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Speaker 3: all of these people are hoping affiliated with these universities

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Speaker 3: is well, once graduation happens, then all of these protests

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Speaker 3: will end. Your point is the weather's actually really good

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Speaker 3: in New York City in May, June, July. Why are

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Speaker 3: the protesters going to leave their summer courses? Certainly white.

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Speaker 3: What's going to be the impetus for them to depart?

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Speaker 3: Clay they have canceled class. I mean, you can look

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Speaker 3: at the data on this. For example, there are, if

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Speaker 3: you were burg reason, fewer shootings when it rains.

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Speaker 2: Why because people don't want to be in the rain,

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Speaker 2: whether they're stealing or shooting or whatever. You look at

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Speaker 2: the data on protests when it's especially in Campman protests,

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Speaker 2: when it's warm outside, all of a sudden people become

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Speaker 2: more politically active, right, and by canceling classes. None of

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Speaker 2: these kids, a lot of them, I'm sure, have internships.

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Speaker 2: So some of them are probably going to show up

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Speaker 2: at Goldman Sachs in a month and be like, here,

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Speaker 2: I am guys paying me a lot of money. I

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Speaker 2: hope they don't figure out what, you know, what they

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Speaker 2: were protesting, but they have nothing to do between now

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Speaker 2: and graduation. They have nothing to do between now and

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Speaker 2: the start of the summer. So I think they've actually

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Speaker 2: almost made it worse. But they don't know what to do.

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Speaker 2: They're in free fall. A month of this play. You

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Speaker 2: think a month of this is going to be you know,

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Speaker 2: that's I think it's gonna I think it might happen.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they're gonna do. They've given forty

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Speaker 3: eight hours to the protesters. They're not negotiating with them

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Speaker 3: like it was midnight now it's forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right,