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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts Free Agent Preview Podcast. Look at

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Speaker 1: some key in house free agents this offseason. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor from the India

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Speaker 1: at a Union Construction industry radio studio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. We're back at it here on the Free

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Speaker 2: Agent Preview Podcast, our series on Colts dot Com the

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Speaker 2: Colts Audio Network. Thanks for joining in again. I'm joined

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Speaker 2: in studio JJ Stangowitz, Casey Valier along as well. Guys.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Casey? Tell me something good before we.

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Speaker 3: Get going, Tell you something good. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: sing that song. Tell me I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't have anything great? Sounds like.

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Speaker 1: This?

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Speaker 2: How about it? Yeah? This is a catchy tune, isn't it. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about free agents. We're down to business here,

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Speaker 2: brass tag. I mean we're getting serious.

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Speaker 3: We're talking Grover Stewart with some big drums some I

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Speaker 3: mean that makes sense, right, I mean so that I'll

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Speaker 3: give you that.

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Speaker 2: Well, Me saying what's up to you guys went over

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Speaker 2: like a lead bullying. So let's let's try to get

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Speaker 2: better as we go along here. Next thank conversation. We'll

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Speaker 2: start with JJ. Next time. Enough to break the ice.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? We're talking free agents here.

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Speaker 4: The last time you heard someone actually say let's get

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Speaker 4: down to brass tax in like a normal conversation. What

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Speaker 4: are you doing? Like you're sitting down, You're like you're

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Speaker 4: at a table, you're conducting a business is let's get

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Speaker 4: down to brass tacks.

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Speaker 2: Get after it. I'm gonna slide you over a napkin

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Speaker 2: that has a number of that. Exactly, let's just start there. Exactly. Hey,

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Speaker 2: me talking to my wife at the dinner table. When

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Speaker 2: kids are around, that's when you need to get down

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Speaker 2: to brass tacks. Because you got like three minutes, might

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Speaker 2: be that might be a little much too three minutes.

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Speaker 4: You got some well behaved kids.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely everybody that has kids nodding along to that, right,

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Speaker 2: all right? If you're new to our podcast, here he is.

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Speaker 2: This is what we're doing. These are concentrated conversations except

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Speaker 2: for the last three minutes on key and house free

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Speaker 2: agents for the Colts heading into the start of the

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Speaker 2: new league year, which is coming up on March thirteenth.

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Speaker 2: So far, we've had previews on Michael Pittman, Junior Gardner,

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Speaker 2: Minshew Zach Moss Earlier this week Kenny Moore of The

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Speaker 2: Second check those out right now on demand on this channel.

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Speaker 2: And today we're sticking with defense. We're talking about the

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Speaker 2: big fella upfront. As we said, Grover Stewart is the

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Speaker 2: topic of conversation here today, guys, before we talk about

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest unsung heroes on the team. For

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Speaker 2: both of you, Casey, I'll start with you. When you

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Speaker 2: think of Grover, what immediately comes to mind? Let's play

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Speaker 2: some word association games here.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I would think the laugh is one

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Speaker 3: of the things that first comes to mind, and maybe

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Speaker 3: the you know, the sink wings that you know he's

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Speaker 3: football field, I would say it's just the energy that

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Speaker 3: he plays with. You know, he clearly everybody knows about

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Speaker 3: how great he is against the run and all this,

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Speaker 3: but I mean it goes back to watching him in

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Speaker 3: and for as big of a frame as he is,

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Speaker 3: he always is going hardcore. I'm always you know, Grover,

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Speaker 3: He's just one of those guys. Everything about him is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just like power when you watch

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Speaker 4: you kind of sometimes you know, the scheme of the

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Speaker 4: do that, and that's where he wins. He's stronger than

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Speaker 4: most offensive linemen he goes against, but he's also so

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Speaker 4: that is not normal for someone of his build, and

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Speaker 4: that's why Grover Stewart is one of the best interior

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Speaker 2: Doubt about that. So the capsule on Grove reads. Drafted

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Speaker 2: He signed a three year extension in November of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Grover Stewart ranks fifth and tackles among defensive tackles and

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Speaker 2: team history with two hundred and eighty of them. Sees

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Speaker 2: allowed four point seven yards per carry an average of

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Speaker 2: six straight games without Grover. That's the first time that

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Speaker 2: So it sounds weird to say, but did Grover's absence

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Speaker 2: strengthen his case in free agency because of those numbers

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's strengthened it in the sense that,

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Speaker 4: like within the building here, everyone knows how good of

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Speaker 4: a player Grover Stewart is. I think, you know it,

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Speaker 4: it might strengthen his case potentially to you know, if

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Speaker 4: but the Colts allowed more than four yards per carry,

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Speaker 4: so four point one or higher in nine games in

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Speaker 4: you know, Grover Stewart's a really good player, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: Grover Stewart doesn't need to come to the Colts and

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Speaker 4: be like, look at how bad you were without me

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Speaker 4: right in there. We all know that you don't need

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I think, you know, for unrestricted

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Speaker 4: stuff that we just talked about. You know, he's already

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Speaker 3: I don't think that it could be said any any

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Speaker 3: other way. I mean, that's that's very well said, because ultimately,

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, especially inside this building, not only just

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Speaker 3: impact that Grover Stewart has. You can see it from

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Speaker 3: a statistical standpoint, but you also can just feel it

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Speaker 3: when when Grover Stewart's out there, you know he's out

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Speaker 3: on why Grover Stewart needs to come back, because everybody

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Speaker 3: just plays better when Grover Stewart's around. So I understand

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Speaker 3: that completely. And I mean you talk about his importance

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Speaker 2: They all know that for sure. Yeah, and again, you know,

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Speaker 2: we can, you know, look at the film. We can

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Speaker 2: bring up all the stats. But I think it's it's

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Speaker 2: on as you said, JJ, you know, his physicality, his

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Speaker 2: gonna be immediately replaceable, whether that's in free agency or

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Speaker 2: the draft. And it's not like, you know, overnight, coming

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Speaker 2: out of Division two Albany State, Grover Stewart turned into

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Speaker 2: one of the best defensive tackles nose tackles in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Right it came, it evolved, It was got better between

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Speaker 2: that being said, JAYJ, how hard would it be to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're looking at a young group of

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Speaker 4: run defense grade by Pro Football Focus seventy seven point three.

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Speaker 4: That's the third highest among def or sixth highest, excuse me,

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Speaker 4: among defensive tackles last season. And he's making all these

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Speaker 4: which tells you he's getting good penetration pretty consistently, and

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Speaker 4: he's making just a ton of plays against the run.

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Speaker 4: You know, where those those plays it's not just the

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Speaker 4: the he stopped a guy at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: He's creating negative plays for an opposing offense to the

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Speaker 4: gonna just abandon the because we can't win up front,

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Speaker 4: and Grover Stewart is in there, so you take that

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Speaker 4: it more against the Colts where they found success that's

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Speaker 4: hard to find. That's hard to replace in today's NFL.

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Speaker 4: You can do it, You certainly can, but now you

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Speaker 3: Now. I'm kinda go off the beaten path a little

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Speaker 3: their fair share of those by this point, but I

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Speaker 3: Grover Stewart means. When you look at this team heading

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Speaker 2: So I think he's getting noticed. Heam may not be

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you faced the Colts in the

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Speaker 4: I mean, this isn't a he's He's not a secret anymore,

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Speaker 3: I like that you mentioned that because he was kind

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Speaker 2: And that is must watch football for sure. Kind of

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Speaker 2: free agency stock if you will. Without Stuart, what kind

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Speaker 2: DeForest Buckner is so dependent his success is is hinged

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Speaker 3: In the running game. I mean, like we're gonna work.

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Speaker 3: I mean, DeForest Buckner is a game changing defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: that is not going to change whether to whether Grover

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Speaker 3: But that is where that's where the big question comes in.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there are times when Grover Stewart was not

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Speaker 2: So that is one thing.

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Speaker 3: That Grover Stewart does is it allows DeForest Buckner to

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Speaker 2: So that is the kind of thing and that's not

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Speaker 3: Those are the kinds of things that you know, you

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Speaker 3: all that stuff. That is what DeForest Buckner deals with

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Speaker 3: of those things that you know, Grover Stewart definitely helps

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Speaker 4: Can I will say, in a hat tip to DeForest Buckner,

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Speaker 4: You look at what he did against Carolina five pressures,

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Speaker 4: last game Grove missed, he had six. Those are let's see,

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Speaker 4: that's where you see that leadership and that veteran quality

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Speaker 2: And something else that we should mention when you talk

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Speaker 2: the bill, the durability, the availability, Right, sounds so cliche.

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Speaker 2: The best ability is availability. But before Grover's suspension, right,

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Speaker 2: he missed six games, but before that he had started

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Speaker 2: sixty nine straight. So how much is the dependability of

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Speaker 3: That's that's exactly where I was going is when you

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Speaker 3: It's funny. When he came back from his his suspension,

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to go. And that's the kind of player

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of those things as we talk

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Speaker 4: Grover Stewart played, by the way seventy one percent of

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Speaker 4: I'm out here now that that's important though, because Grove

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Speaker 4: he's's on the wrong side of thirty. But a guy

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Speaker 4: you know, certainly the Colts training staff and the front

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, to put a bow on all of

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Speaker 2: when you watch these games, when Grover Stewart's out of

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Just you think about how opposing offenses approached it,

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Speaker 2: They got eyeballs on him on the sideline too, and

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Speaker 2: I think Casey you said it. You got to bring

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Speaker 2: the best wings in town? Guaranteed Grover Stuart didn't have

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Speaker 2: to worry one. He's making his own on Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: So you're coming to him. I mean people might have said, hey,

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Speaker 3: do you have an uber eats thing, because well, we'll

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Speaker 3: pick up, We'll do whatever we need to get some

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Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 4: So one of my favorite things with Grove is just

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Speaker 4: how like affably matter of fact he is. You ask him,

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Speaker 4: you know, like when when he came back, like what

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Speaker 4: did you miss the most? And you just get this

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Speaker 4: that's all he has to say, and you're like, yep,

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Speaker 4: that's answer. He's a man of few words, but those

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Speaker 4: few words are always a treat that fluent.

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Speaker 2: A helicopter with him. We were going to the Colts

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Speaker 2: baseball thing, you know, the marketing deal. Flew in a

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Speaker 2: helicopter from Indianapolis to Fort Wayne, which is like a

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Speaker 2: twenty five minute helicopter ride. Incredibly cool. But it was

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Speaker 2: even better with Grover Stewart because he was just laughing

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Speaker 2: the whole time. I got a big old smile on

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Speaker 2: I thought. I was like, Oh, that's my house right there.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is like the best twenty minutes of

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Speaker 2: my life right here. So cool on so many different

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Speaker 2: levels right there. Hope you're back, Rover Stewart. You're a

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Speaker 2: good man and a hell of a ballplayer. Hey. Coming

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Speaker 2: up later this week, we'll talk more about great ballplayers

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Speaker 2: for the Colts. That would be Julian Blackman, a running

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Speaker 2: mate of Kenny Moore in the secondary. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: how important he is the Colt success in that secondary

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Speaker 2: for next season. We'll discuss all of that and more

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Speaker 2: later this week here on our Colts Free Agency Review podcast.

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Speaker 2: But for JJ stangob it's case Valier. Now you've got

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Speaker 2: me hungry for chicken wings, boys me too, well, parmesan, garlic,

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Speaker 2: whatever you're whatever your fancy, we'll get it done here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor, and we will talk to you later

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Speaker 2: this week here on the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: So on