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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well.

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Speaker 2: Rain drops Yandy.

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Speaker 3: On the recent episode of Love and Hip Hop Atlanta,

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Speaker 3: The girls asked her is it true that she was

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Speaker 3: cheating on in DC.

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Speaker 2: As you all know, Yandy's.

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Speaker 3: Best friend slash former employee. I don't know his title.

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Speaker 3: I think assistant, it could have been something else. He

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Speaker 3: revealed that Yandy was messing around with this man and

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Speaker 3: as you all know, it blew up the internet. For

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Speaker 3: the first time Yandy has discussed on the show, and

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Speaker 3: she said Claudia that.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't consider it cheating. That her and min DC.

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Speaker 3: Had a conversation about where they were in their relationship,

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Speaker 3: and she said that they pretty much had an understanding

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Speaker 3: that they both were allowed to see other people. And

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Speaker 3: number one, she's not legally married Number two. Yes, they

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Speaker 3: do live together with their children, but she said she

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Speaker 3: does not consider it cheating because they were allowed to

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Speaker 3: see other people.

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Speaker 2: Claudia, do you agree with that notion that this is

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Speaker 2: not cheating?

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Speaker 4: Of course black women don't cheat.

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Speaker 5: Oh ooh, I like this like no.

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Speaker 4: And first of all, if we do cheat, we cheated. Second.

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Speaker 4: If we cheat, second, it's not cheating. It's called getting

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Speaker 4: your look back. If you cheat on me, and then

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Speaker 4: I go, I'm not cheating on you, sir. I'm evening

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Speaker 4: the score so I can tolerate looking at you. So

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. No, if you at the world knows you've

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Speaker 4: been out on these streets and I held you down

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Speaker 4: while you was in prison, put money on your books. No, sorry,

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Speaker 4: Yandy's innocent, Dustin.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm gonna have to roll Claudia on this one. Honestly,

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Speaker 6: Like Yandy, the way she laid that shit out, it made.

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Speaker 4: Sense to me.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I was like, well, you know,

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Speaker 6: we're putting a case together. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: She had that was that was persuaded. You know what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, So I believe in her. You know what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, the great Yandy Hope and Ship. I agree,

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Speaker 6: Yandy Luther King Junior. You know what I'm saying, She's

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Speaker 6: done a lot for our people. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: they want to get a little head or whatever on.

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Speaker 2: The side lit it.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Oh, well, Ship, she hearn

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Speaker 6: that all.

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Speaker 4: The great vil rights leaders got a little.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the.

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Speaker 4: Trumps, those little indiscretions here and there, the activism tax.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they said Corretta Scott King would be putting that

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Speaker 6: roller in her hair, cutting Martin's ass out about the

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Speaker 6: women calling that house. We all heard them rumors. So

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Speaker 6: Yandy deserves she deserved her little head. She held it down,

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Speaker 6: paid all the bills and ship, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: for them years while he was in jail, and you know,

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Speaker 6: and then staying down, somebody want to you know, let

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Speaker 6: somebody look on her a little bit later to go

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Speaker 6: and do it.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Anything that happened while he

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Speaker 4: was in prison doesn't count anyways, because on both ends.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because literally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know it's kind of like a pause.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like, uh, you know, like a break

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Speaker 4: in the season, you know, like a part of the

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Speaker 4: eight season, be season, the time in between. It doesn't count.

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Speaker 4: Commercial break, it doesn't count.

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Speaker 8: Look, man, I don't she doesn't know what happened when

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Speaker 8: he dropped the soap. She's showed that man so much

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Speaker 8: grace and for so long that I think if she

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Speaker 8: can look away and keep it pushing, that he needs

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Speaker 8: to return the favor.

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Speaker 5: I also, it feels like.

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Speaker 8: Ross and Rachel we were on a break that infamous

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Speaker 8: episode from Friends.

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Speaker 5: Do not send me back to the streets and be

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Speaker 5: upset that the streets welcomed me back.

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Speaker 8: How I feel right like, if you want somebody to

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Speaker 8: be with you in a relationship, then you are together.

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Speaker 8: If you separate that I'm separate. Words mean things. So

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Speaker 8: I think he felt a way, but I don't think.

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Speaker 5: She acted.

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Speaker 2: Not like from Fresh Brits.

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Speaker 5: Remember us different guys, it's Mercury ratche.

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Speaker 4: Remember didn't she get the head in London? Like if

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Speaker 4: it's overseas American soil.

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Speaker 2: No time out, come out. Listen.

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Speaker 7: First of all, disclaimer, obviously our Frispen Yandy in real life,

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Speaker 7: and I love her.

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Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with y Andy.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna say that but I gotta I gotta call

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Speaker 7: out the ladies.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the ladies.

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Speaker 3: If a man did this, Let's say Yandy was in

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Speaker 3: jail for six months do to her activism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's say and ray jobs comment.

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Speaker 3: Let's Candy went to jail for activism and she was

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Speaker 3: in the slammer for six to six months to a year. Right,

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Speaker 3: if men d C cheated on Yandy with a woman

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Speaker 3: and Columbia, this would be a very.

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Speaker 8: That's not what happened though, No the question, that's not

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Speaker 8: what happened. Come on, that's not what happened.

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Speaker 2: What happened now Man.

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Speaker 8: DC's was hauling her down and she went to jail

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Speaker 8: and had a little nicky nicky boom boom in the

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Speaker 8: in the thing because we know what child, you know,

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Speaker 8: was doing whatever she was doing for them eight to

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Speaker 8: nine months and she came out and he was aggrieved

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Speaker 8: and said, you know, I've been through a lot and

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Speaker 8: I just feel like we're not communicating. And they agreed

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Speaker 8: to a break, and he gets some head on a break.

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Speaker 8: I would actually be okay with that. To me, it's

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Speaker 8: not a gender thing. We're on a break. Do not

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Speaker 8: send me back to the streets and be mad the streets,

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Speaker 8: welcome me back. The minute he agreed to a break,

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Speaker 8: it was up and it was stuck.

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, for me, it's a jail thing because

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Speaker 6: the minute that he came home. I'm telling you it's

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Speaker 6: a jail thing. And here's why. Because when man DC's

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Speaker 6: came home and said he didn't know if he would

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Speaker 6: hold Yandy down the way she held him down, remember

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Speaker 6: that ship, Remember that when he came home and had

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Speaker 6: that that that horrible ass attitude, stink ass attitude. After

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Speaker 6: the sacrifices that Yandy made for him and for me

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Speaker 6: and you as black people, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: You didn't sacrificed a lot. And I just thought that

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Speaker 6: that was a very poor taste and it really made

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Speaker 6: me look at man DC differently on that show. So

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Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck about her cheating on him.

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Speaker 6: That's what his ass did, the way he did her

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Speaker 6: after she came after he came home and acted like

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Speaker 6: what she did supporting him during that be it wasn't

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Speaker 6: ship and.

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Speaker 8: She didn't cheat, so you would have to worry about

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Speaker 8: it should actually cheat again, we have a.

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Speaker 5: Case, Carlos. It's the people versus Carlos.

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Speaker 4: King on when you when you have the audacity to

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Speaker 4: fix your mouth that that held you down while you

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Speaker 4: were in and I asked you, would you have been

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Speaker 4: the same and you him and Han and you don't

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Speaker 4: need to say us. No, I should have cheated more.

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Speaker 4: Actually and him.

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Speaker 5: She should have got a head while he was in

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Speaker 5: the room. She's lucky ideal with me.

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Speaker 4: She should have made a sex tape. But the fact

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Speaker 4: that it happened overseas. Listen, this is why our client

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Speaker 4: is innocent. Carlos King. The people the client first of

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Speaker 4: all International Soil.

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Speaker 5: Okay, at the International Woman's Day. On top of that,

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Speaker 5: there that.

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Speaker 4: I moved for the court to dismiss this case against

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Speaker 4: our client. First International Soil. Second of all, she was

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Speaker 4: doing work for the people. She was working on behalf

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Speaker 4: of the people who knows that the man that she

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Speaker 4: allegedly was messed with was not a person that she

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Speaker 4: just needed to act like she was into just so

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Speaker 4: she can get some intel to fight the cause, to

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Speaker 4: fight for our people. I think she was doing research

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Speaker 4: with the African Americans Negro versus the Negro in London.

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Speaker 4: I don't think this had anything to do with her

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Speaker 4: own personal desires. I think it was for the people.

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Speaker 4: I think this was a work related And then, of course,

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Speaker 4: and because we also I'm using the Chibacca defense, we

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Speaker 4: also need reparations. So I think she did this for

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Speaker 4: the greater good of all of us, Like my co

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Speaker 4: consul Dustin said here and uh yeah, And with all

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Speaker 4: that being said, I moved to the Smiths's case against

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Speaker 4: the answer she's innocent. And do we have a video?

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Speaker 4: Do we have video of insertion actually taking place where

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Speaker 4: we see a P nine going to no, we don't.

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Speaker 4: So it's always multiple.

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Speaker 5: This is calling you, but but it's here, isn't it here?

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Speaker 5: Say though?

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Speaker 4: It's you know for a fact, who says that the influence?

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Speaker 4: And she was.

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Speaker 8: Have you watched Dustin the entire same that video of

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Speaker 8: the lady with the bonnet who's behind the man while

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Speaker 8: he's arguing.

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Speaker 5: She's like yeah, He's like yeah, that was the entire time. YEP.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why we even have this discussion. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we are in World War three, we're on the cusp,

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Speaker 4: we're in World War through it now, and we're we're

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Speaker 4: talking about cheating. But they have a backbone of civilized civilization.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So now what we will take her ask to

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Speaker 6: task for is wearing a California Angels head insane? It

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Speaker 6: is that Atlanta head in the heat of an argument.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. That's what we will take Andy. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but getting your titty sucked in London, please, that is

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Speaker 6: not love.

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Speaker 5: It could be a drink track.

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Speaker 4: I like that even cheating though, Like a titty suck is?

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Speaker 4: What's that like? Maybe massage? Like that's what happensage like

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Speaker 4: it was a massage.

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Speaker 6: Get your freak on. Okay, that's what you do, Yandy,

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Speaker 6: get your freak on. Baby?

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Speaker 4: You good?

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Speaker 3: Only because I know you are a demon type. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to post this question somebody has for you.

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Speaker 4: Come on now, I don't like white men. I'm not

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Speaker 4: attracted to white men. Okay, wasn't you dating?

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Speaker 5: Wait?

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Speaker 4: Wasn't you dating to Rudy? I don't answer questions. Where's

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Speaker 4: the punctuation?

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Speaker 5: And you just fly in the sky right.

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Speaker 4: I let me tell you, Let me tell you something,

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Speaker 4: and Dustin my friend here and Carlos can attest to

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Speaker 4: the blue. You haven't been around my men's.

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Speaker 5: I met one he was fine, and big I met one.

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Speaker 9: Oh, in Vegas, Blue glue be a dust, say have

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Speaker 9: little records saying of all of our girls, Claudia's roster

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Speaker 9: is the best I have met.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, don't play.

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Speaker 5: I've ran to Claudia in Vegas and there was a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my only date. Fine ship. So if you see

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Speaker 7: Yes, I listen. Claudia got so sleep and this is

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Speaker 6: Remember all that ship was running down his head and

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Speaker 4: Sweat like I've heard sweat and he got he got

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Speaker 6: You awful?

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Speaker 5: How did we get here? Whe's Debora cops?

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Speaker 4: How do we get off? The thing is?

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Speaker 2: You have a day tonight?

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Speaker 4: No, I had one.

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Speaker 2: And this was a part of yeah, oh yeah, are

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Part two? This weekend two?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well guess what We'll be back next Monday

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Speaker 10: All right, So, Claudia Dustin and Blue Dustin, I want

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Speaker 10: first episode of the new season of the Real Housewives

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Speaker 10: happens to be Easter Claudia, save the jokes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a.

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Speaker 7: Joke there that I'm sure you will think about and

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Speaker 7: stay later. But Real Housepins of Atlanta season season seventeen,

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Speaker 7: Excuse Me, is debuting April six on Eastern Eddie Cohen

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Speaker 2: Dustin, what are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 6: I believe it came Michelle as funny as hell. We

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Speaker 6: Love and Hip Hop. You know, whether you love Camichelle

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Speaker 6: she's going to shine in that interview chair talking shit

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Speaker 6: about other people. You know what I'm saying. She's good

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Speaker 6: at that. So she's going to be entertained and she's

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Speaker 6: he said, So I expect I saw that coming blue.

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Speaker 8: I think after Angel and Them, Kay Michelle was probably

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Speaker 8: a welcome detour because she has She's the complete That

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Speaker 8: man has been hungry for some a while. Okay, he

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Speaker 8: you know, Andy, the whole time he was talking, I

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Speaker 8: feel like you just wanted to say, I'm tickled by black

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Speaker 8: mess like it felt real. Mister burns like he's just

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Speaker 8: she would actually be a contender on that Mount rushmore

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Speaker 5: And you can't teach that. You either habit or you don't.

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Speaker 8: So I have no doubts it's gonna be amazing. I

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Speaker 8: slightly delusional but excellent for reality TV. Will show see

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Speaker 8: you know a burning building and run into it.

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Speaker 5: Like, ooh, what's in there? So she doesn't even know

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Speaker 8: So I think the the Lulu of Drew and the

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Speaker 5: I can't wait to see it.

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Speaker 4: I love that he was giving a real house of

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Speaker 4: to you know. I mean that is to me, that's

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Speaker 4: about saying the whole love and hip hop comparison but

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a lot of energy this year,

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Speaker 5: Is Faedra in it.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, because we noticed that Bravo has had a

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Speaker 5: Like we mentioned how.

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Speaker 8: The Monique comeback was kind of clunky when she came

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Speaker 8: s you're the producer. Is there like a yes, yes you?

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Speaker 8: Is there like a science to bringing an og back

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Speaker 2: Yes? I mean, all right, masterclass that shit. All right,

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Speaker 3: To answer your question, Yes, there is a science to

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Speaker 2: The thing is this, and I have two thoughts about it.

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Speaker 3: I do think at some point there are certain people

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Speaker 3: You know, whether the storyline has run dry. I don't

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Speaker 3: is that interesting. We're watching the kardash I think being

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I am alone.

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Speaker 3: I look at the Kardashians and I think, listen, you

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Speaker 3: interesting going on now besides the stunt casting, besides the stunt.

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Speaker 2: Of the headline.

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Speaker 3: We all love a good oh my god, that person's

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Speaker 3: And one thing Andy said about ky Michelle, he said

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, I listen, I've said this publicly,

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Speaker 3: it makes no sense. I would bring Claudia back. Claudia

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Speaker 2: What else none at all. I know, I'm dating myself.

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Speaker 3: So in case you all went to the Aaron Spelling

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Speaker 2: Like, I think you're that for sure. So it could work,

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 6: Also, both of those cases, specifically when it comes to

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Speaker 6: season shit, that does not work to me. If you're

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Speaker 6: Housewives of Atlanta, it had that dark ass cloud over

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Speaker 3: And and Justin and I agree last year, I'm not

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Speaker 3: And that's what I mean about, like just doing things

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Speaker 5: And oh desperate. It felt very desperate the way.

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Speaker 2: Here and it didn't need that. It didn't need it.

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Speaker 3: And listen, I enjoyed last season of Atlanta Housewives. I'm

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Speaker 4: It was desperate because of the whole britt Edie and

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Speaker 4: she feels like I'm an og and she's just because

441
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 4: she's a legacy person. She's been on the show for

442
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 4: a long time, and her past reputation was enough to

443
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 4: sail on through. She was lazy. All Fad did the

444
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 4: entire season was make faces and just look down our

445
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 4: nose with a with a ridiculously blonde wig. That's it.

446
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 4: Like that's all she did, was like, that's it.

447
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 8: The whole season was tossplaying her own memes. It was

448
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 8: weird to watch, like, yes, we all have Wi Fi relax,

449
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 8: it wasn't.

450
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 4: It was like phasier, like you know, we do know

451
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 4: you have reading capabilities, You've done it in the past.

452
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 4: We know you are good when it comes to that.

453
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 4: One of the better ones of reality television. Right, Some

454
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 4: would argue, but where was it? And again in her

455
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 4: defense and I can't believe on I'm meeving saying this,

456
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: but when you get four episodes, you're not really ingrained

457
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 4: with the group. You're kind of getting on the tail end.

458
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 4: You're trying to play ketch up. And I think when

459
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: you trying to come in and play catch up, you're

460
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: trying to you almost go too hard because you're trying

461
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: to make it for lost time and just be extra

462
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: mean or extra judge you, or whatever the thing is

463
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 4: you're doing. And it doesn't make sense why your four

464
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 4: episodes in, Like you know, it was annoying. But I

465
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 4: don't know. I think this year, with km A show

466
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 4: and all the other vets old people coming back, I

467
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 4: don't even think she was needed the season unless you're

468
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 4: gonna show us who she's really dating, what jobs she

469
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 4: really does have her life, Show us something that's real,

470
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 4: not fake. Show us some something real, you know, instead

471
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: of just making faces. Because making faces, I mean, I

472
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 4: know you've signed with Willhelmina, so you think you're a model,

473
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 4: But like that's just not enough to just get faced

474
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 4: on our reality show. You have to get more than that.

475
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of giving something real, rain drops Claudia dusted

476
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 3: and blue. The latest update in Portsa's love life is

477
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: the fact that she has declaire that she is in

478
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: love with her girlfriend Sway. They spent time and Bollie

479
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: together on a three thousand dollars a night Bollie vacation.

480
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: In this, she captioned, I love you, Claudia.

481
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that? Do you think Portia has.

482
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: Fondly found love now that she is with this woman

483
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 3: when she's been with me and.

484
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: Her whole life? Pashi Claudia, how does it.

485
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 6: What Candy say?

486
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 4: She puts to be.

487
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 6: Candy been told.

488
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 7: And Candy would know, Claudia, I'm not doing if they're

489
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 7: with you, you tell that we're not about doing Stardi

490
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 7: like that.

491
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: That mean with Diddy and the guy in the conversation

492
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: at each other, Pushy, come on, that's your Bessie.

493
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 6: You know you.

494
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 7: Know I don't know what anyone all.

495
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: Listen. She's been married twice to men.

496
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 7: This is the first public relationship she has having a female,

497
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 7: and a lot of people are making a big notion

498
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 7: that she did say I love you as they are

499
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 7: on a three thousand dollars a night vacation in Bali.

500
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 3: So do you do you think now that she's with

501
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 3: a woman? Could that have been the missing pieces and

502
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 3: her love?

503
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: Huzzle?

504
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 5: Can I shoot her some bell real quick? Because I

505
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 5: have actually been in Bali with a stunt so I

506
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 5: actually have.

507
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 8: You know, mother has lived, and I'm gonna tell you

508
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 8: they're very convincing. I too, thought I was in love

509
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 8: until I got home. So let's see where we are

510
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 8: by June.

511
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 4: She looks You're always happy in the beginning of relationship.

512
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 5: But who help the word love bombing. Okay, look at

513
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: the word love bombing.

514
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 8: Because I saw the videos. We would have all been

515
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 8: in love. Okay, I know what, I'm not even joking.

516
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 8: I have been in body with the stead.

517
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 5: I hope she doesn't see that. I'm not talking about you,

518
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 5: but like it's one of those things where the vibe

519
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 5: beyond me.

520
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 8: I have a friend who even said she was like,

521
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 8: watching you be be pan has made me realized I

522
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 8: want a straight man who dates in courts like a lesbian.

523
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 6: Oh well, lesbian is going great vacations they do. They

524
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 6: do it right, great vacations and they move fast too.

525
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 6: Everybody knows the joke about the U haul and all

526
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 6: that ship like. So, I like to me, this tracks

527
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 6: this is what relationships like that look like. You know

528
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So and Porscha All Porscha dies head

529
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 6: first with no planet ended god Pora dies head first

530
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 6: into relationships anyway. You know what I'm saying. We've seen

531
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 6: her do it. We've seen her do it multiple times.

532
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 6: She even did it with Simon, So you know what

533
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like, yeah, typical.

534
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 4: Oh a self made millionaire Okay, I sway does seat listen?

535
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: I don't know sway. I just met her at the

536
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 4: premiere real quick. She seems cool. I mean, and you know,

537
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's love bombing or not. I

538
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 4: don't know those people like that, and anything I say

539
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: is to me taking us hate whatever. But listen, I

540
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 4: we all can attest to the beginning of a relationship

541
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: and the first six months feels so good no matter

542
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: who it is. So only time will tell. We'll find

543
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: out on the on the show. But it looks like

544
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: they're happy, and you know, it looks like they're happy.

545
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: I don't think this is the first time she's been

546
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: with a woman. I don't. I mean, Candy even said it,

547
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And hey, if she likes it,

548
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: I love it. And if women for loss and men

549
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: for money, this stuff has both.

550
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 8: And.

551
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: It also is just so high happens that it was

552
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: right on time to have a good storyline. Damn No,

553
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: you can kilty words at one stone, like I love

554
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: this person or I like them a lot, and we're

555
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: starting in two weeks Like that's boss, what's up? You

556
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like it's like a win win.

557
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: But I do think she does a happy But she

558
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: also looked very happy with Simon, and she also looked

559
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: very happy with Dennis. And she also looked happy with

560
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 4: that NBA guy, and she also looks happy. But I

561
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: think Porch is like a like a free spirit, like

562
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 4: she's like, you know what whatever, Like this makes me

563
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: feel good. So I'm going with it. I listen, Yo,

564
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 4: they gonna find that way to make this hate. I

565
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 4: am not hating. Like I said in the beginning the show, Love.

566
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: Wins, No Love Win.

567
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: Dustin is so proud of you right now, a proud.

568
00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 6: Happy like yeah, I just you know, look, Portions seemed

569
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 6: happy to me. They having a good ass time in body.

570
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 6: Even if she is using the girl Sway. That's her name, right,

571
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 6: Sway is her partner's name. Yeah, she's using Sway for

572
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 6: a storyline, then Sway be used like like being with us.

573
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 6: It use me up there if that means I get

574
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 6: to go on fabulous vacations, sleep with you, you know

575
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, and be on TV Win Win Win,

576
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I ain't mad at

577
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 6: neither one of them personally.

578
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: I don't think it's fake. I don't think it's fake

579
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: at all. I do think that I think they're into

580
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: each other. I don't think it's say at all.

581
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it's fake either. And I mean, I.

582
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: Not to give away it was gonna happen this season,

583
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: because obviously we need to watch every episode. But what

584
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: I do believe you already saw on the trailer, so I'm.

585
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: Not saying anything too much. You will see a transition,

586
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: you know what I'm.

587
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 7: Saying in the beginning, Yeah, and then yeah, yeah, yeah,

588
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 7: so you'll you'll see the transition and the progression of it.

589
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: She looks happy with him too, like really happy. So

590
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: I think he's just a happy person. Oh I'm being

591
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: a hater. Oh my god, I'm sorry.

592
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry.

593
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: She looks Listen, it looks like it's gonna be a

594
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: fun season for her.

595
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

596
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: Look she's in love and I listen.

597
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: I do want to ask you this, Dustin, because one

598
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: of the topics, I mean, not the topics. One of

599
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: the comments was people saying that is an e it

600
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: appears to be socially acceptable for women to dip in

601
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: and out of the lady pod, that she could date

602
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: a woman and then date man and nobody bats an eye,

603
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: but that God forbid if a man decides to dip

604
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: in the man pod, he's forever considered gay and there's

605
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: no there's no celebratory notions for that. Do you think

606
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: there is some truth to that?

607
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 6: That's all facts. People look at it totally differently, and

608
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 6: it just is what it is, and it's fucked up

609
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 6: and unfair, and it's the cause of a lot of

610
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 6: people having secretive behavior, you know what I'm saying, because

611
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 6: of the stigmas and shit and the judgment that is

612
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 6: attached to homosexual activity period, you know what I'm saying.

613
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 6: So it takes a lot of bravery to just be

614
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 6: gay and live your life out here, out in the open,

615
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And a lot of people,

616
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 6: because of the double standard and because of all the

617
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 6: things that work against you, you know what I'm saying,

618
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 6: they don't do that. But yes, I believe that's absolutely true.

619
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 6: They think it's sexy when girls mess around, and they

620
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 6: think it's disgusting when gods mess around. That's the reality.

621
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 6: That's the world we live in. So sucks, but you

622
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 6: know that's just the way it is. Yep, we got Carlos,

623
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 6: We ain't none, but some week some homos Forever.

624
00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: Carlos yet forever. Listen, I literally have no desire to

625
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: be with a woman. I I don't.

626
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: I don't rise to the occasion when I'm around women.

627
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's soft like Pillsbury dope. Boy.

628
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: We're no woman that can make it hard.

629
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: I know.

630
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: And listen, of course with Ronnie Carlo has a crush

631
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: of Porsche and you know that's.

632
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: Our thing or whatever.

633
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: But actual, like rising to the occasion, my ship will

634
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: be soft like mashed potatoes.

635
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 8: Hey, Claudia, wait a minute, So we have two gay

636
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 8: men and straight women in the pan sexual Is it

637
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 8: like a glad Ward that we can be up for?

638
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 6: Because I feel like that's what I'm saying.

639
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: I love us that I love us though. All right,

640
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: two more stories before we go tonight. Update on the

641
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: Windy Eddie Oscepho case. Last week was the finale of

642
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: the season of Potomac. However, last he was also the

643
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: latest update and the Wendy at Eddie trial but not

644
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 3: trial case. They haven't gone the trial yet. The latest

645
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: Quaudia doesn't in blue and I'll start with you Blue

646
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: is the fact that Wendy and Eddie have both been

647
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: awarded to try to be tried separately, it would not

648
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: be tried together. Wendy wanted an immediate trial. They weren't

649
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: able to do that. Eddie, on the other hand, wanted

650
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 3: to wait until he and his team got everything together

651
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: and for his trial to not be immediate.

652
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: He was granted his so blue.

653
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: Of course, since they have both been arrested, there's been

654
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: tons of rumors, especially since we saw the scene where

655
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: Wendy did ask.

656
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 7: About the state of their marriage. People are saying that

657
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 7: them asking for separate trials could mean that Eddie is

658
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Speaker 7: going to take the fall for it and allow Wendy

659
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 7: to stay home to.

660
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Speaker 6: Raise the kids.

661
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Speaker 2: Question your question, do you do you do you agree

662
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: with that notion?

663
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 8: I think that in the vein of like the Eugenes

664
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 8: of the world, Mauricio before he left, and all the

665
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 8: great husbands before them, that there are certain men when

666
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 8: they have a wife who's going to be on a

667
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 8: reality show, there's certain conversations that I'm sure that it

668
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 8: has had within the marriage about what this means for

669
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Speaker 8: the relationship.

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Speaker 5: Right It's almost like if you have a star athlete

671
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: in your.

672
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 8: Family or a big old actress who's going to be

673
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 8: the next you know, Denzel in.

674
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 5: Your family, the entire ecosystem kind of rises.

675
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 8: To support that person who's going to take them all

676
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 8: someplace new.

677
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 5: I think that Eddie loves his wife. I do believe that.

678
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 8: I think she adores him. I think that he's already

679
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 8: taken a fall for her when it came to his family,

680
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 8: so he's not unfamiliar to sacrificing for her and their

681
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 8: family and strategically speaking, us getting you out the way first,

682
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 8: so we even know what we're working with. Like, if

683
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 8: you are innocent, great, I'll take the brunt of it

684
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 8: and try to see if I can get an innocent

685
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 8: verdict as well. If you are guilty, then we have

686
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 8: to scramble and figure something out. I think this is

687
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 8: proof that they're working as a unit, whether he's taking

688
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 8: a fall or not. To me, it's proof that they're

689
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 8: being strategic and working as a unit. And I probably

690
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 8: I think watching Teresa and Joe Judice from New York

691
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 8: and seeing how that worked out, it's so wonderful that

692
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 8: they're going to be separated because you have two chances

693
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 8: that keep the family intact.

694
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 5: If it was a one and done, that would.

695
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 8: Be really horrible for the kids. I think we often

696
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 8: forget about the kids, right. These are children who are

697
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 8: going to have to go to school and be made

698
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 8: fun of. These are kids who are gonna have to

699
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 8: see their parents in the headlines. You know that borrowing

700
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 8: people's iPads, regardless of the childlocks to see what's being said.

701
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 8: And I think this speaks to him being a good

702
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 8: husband and a good father. And if he does take

703
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 8: the fall, I don't think that necessarily means that they

704
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 8: are guilty. I know we all kind of cackled about

705
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 8: Pam Oliver and the six seven and all that other stuff,

706
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 8: But on the chance that they're actually innocent, they're trying

707
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 8: to figure out a way to keep their family together.

708
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 8: And so if the word fall for me feels more

709
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 8: like cahoots, I think they're being strategic about how to

710
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 8: keep the family unit intact. And I applaud it. I

711
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 8: applaud it, and I do think Wendy's films were real.

712
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 8: I do think Andy's devastated. He does have faves.

713
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 5: You can tell that Wendy is one of his.

714
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 8: Faves, and if she comes back, I want her to

715
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 8: get the same treatment that Karen didn't squandered. If she

716
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 8: comes back, there were out the red carpet for her

717
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 8: the way they differ Karen, because watching all these jailbirds

718
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 8: on these different franchises, I think Wendy's already from a

719
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 8: dignity that some of the other girls have been lacking.

720
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Speaker 2: Previous three Wendy Claudia.

721
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with Blue. I think that even if

722
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: it's not him taking the fall, it's two chances to

723
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 4: get in it a not guilty verdict. I mean, if

724
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 4: it's together, like you know, one band one found okay,

725
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: they're gonna find us guilty. We're both going down right

726
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 4: and again, like she said, even if they're innocent, there's

727
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 4: still there's plenty of people that are in prison that

728
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 4: have had that are not quote you know, quote unquote guilty.

729
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: Two chances to get off, two chances, and it's hard

730
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: to get a conviction, right, Like they have to have

731
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 4: beyond proven beyond reasonable doubt. Right. So I think that

732
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: this is a smart move. I think it's smart to

733
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: separate them and have two chances of saving their family.

734
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I agree one hundred percent. I agree one

735
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 6: hundred percent with Claudia and Blue. It was definitely well

736
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 6: applied strategy to me to even seek that that they

737
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 6: be tried separately, and it's what you're supposed to do.

738
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 6: They they're going to have to figure out a way

739
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: to manage this circumstance in the worst case scenario, you

740
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 6: know what I mean. And that's what it looks like.

741
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 6: Separating the trials, just putting the pieces is in place

742
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 6: to have some sort of plan, you know what I'm saying.

743
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 6: And so I think that's exactly what they were supposed

744
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 6: to do in that position.

745
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 4: And isn't it where you if you're married to someone,

746
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 4: you can't you can't be forced to testify against your spouse.

747
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're protected protestifying against them and also seeing what

748
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 8: they what they do for her will help them with

749
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 8: his case because they're going to do their best shot

750
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 8: with Wendy. So whatever they try with her, they can

751
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 8: then use to figure out a game plan for Eddie.

752
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is great for the defense, I believe.

753
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

754
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: So there's no date set yet for the trial since

755
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: Wendy requested her.

756
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: To be immediate and Eddie wants more time. So we'll

757
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: keep you guys updated, but that's the latest. With that.

758
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: Our last story of the night is the latest update

759
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: between Quad and King Excuse me from Marria to medicine.

760
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: Where these two in this most recent episode of the

761
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: show that heir last night are not on the same page.

762
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: Claudia and Blue would love to get your thoughts on

763
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: in Me and Dustin recaps on Patreon.

764
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: We'll still get his, but I'll start with you. Claudia.

765
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Speaker 3: What happened in the episode last night was Quad revealed

766
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: that King wanted to marry her, but the way he

767
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: asked her was they were in the car together and

768
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Speaker 3: there's a courthouse that's around the corner, and as they're driving,

769
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: he randomly says, you wanna go to the courthouse and

770
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: now we'll do it, And she said she thought he

771
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: was joking, and she later learned that he was serious

772
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: and that ever since she declined the offer.

773
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Speaker 2: He wasn't the same. He didn't treat her the same.

774
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: Do you think that's a proposal and would you have

775
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 3: done the same thing?

776
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 4: Well, you're talking to someone who got married at the

777
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: Little White Wedding Chapel in Vegas and jeans on a

778
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: whim with no witnesses. That we were just hanging out

779
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: and he said you want to get yeah, yeah, when

780
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 4: right now? Okay, get it? And then it was used

781
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: against me later on. So I think they both have points.

782
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: I think they both have a valid point. He's probably like, well,

783
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: I asked you and then, but he knows that she

784
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: wanted it the real way, And she's like, yeah, but listen,

785
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 4: when women, since we're little girls, women, little girls are conditioned,

786
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: we are I feel like La Shia Band Cinderella. They

787
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: give us these unrealistic expectations that were supposed to have

788
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: a humongous gesture for our proposal, and anything less than

789
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: that is not thoughtful. Yeah, that was a little bit

790
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: casual to do that. That was not a little but

791
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: that was very casual. And he knows damn well that

792
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 4: she wanted better than that. I can see why his

793
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 4: feelings be hurt, but he should also be able to

794
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 4: understand why she would be hurt by feeling a lack

795
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 4: of some kind of effort, like, come on, you know

796
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 4: this woman is fabulous. Y'all are on y'all personalities now

797
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 4: and on television, and when it goes left, it has

798
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 4: that should be thrown back in your face. You know, Well,

799
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: if I was really serious about it, I would have

800
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: gave you a real big proposal. I've heard that before.

801
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: If I really meant it like I you know, and

802
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: throw it back in your face. So you're kind of

803
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 4: damned if you do. Damn if you don't one high

804
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 4: one side, you could be like, oh it's beautiful. We didn't.

805
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 4: We just couldn't wait. It was it was about the intent,

806
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 4: not about the the the the gesture. I think they

807
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 4: both have valid points to feel away. But he should

808
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: be a little bit understanding why that would not feel

809
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: like that would kind of feel like a throwaway and

810
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: not like a real like he thought it out. We

811
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: want we want the thoughtfulness. And he should know her

812
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 4: better than that. He should know his woman better than that.

813
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 5: He doesn't know her better. That's why he did like that.

814
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 5: That was a setup. That was a setup. I don't

815
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 5: think his the valeries and to be anger, I don't think.

816
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 8: His feelings are her. I think his ego is bruised. Further,

817
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 8: I think his ego was already bruised, and that he

818
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 8: was trying to do this thing that.

819
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 5: Men who are small.

820
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 8: So if you're not a small man, and whatever says

821
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 8: you take that is not about you, okay.

822
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: If that means five eight under no.

823
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 5: I don't mind sure kings my daddy was only five

824
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 5: five child.

825
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 8: I don't know how I'm five nine. Men who are

826
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 8: small in the places it matters right, small men will

827
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 8: always seek.

828
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 5: To Carlos Carlos got stuck.

829
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 8: Small Men will always seek for a way to diminish

830
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 8: women with big energy. And watching that episode made me

831
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 8: realize the bigness of her that turned him on, turned

832
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 8: him off when he saw his reflection in comparison to hers,

833
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 8: when he realized that he wanted to diminish her. This

834
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 8: is what happened with They neg you. They offer you

835
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 8: scraps and see if you'll take, and if you don't,

836
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 8: their ego gets bruised.

837
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 5: Right, But the whole time she's talking, you can see

838
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 5: that she's already.

839
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 8: Been taught how to be emotionally intelligent to the point

840
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 8: of coddling. When he says, I don't like you shot

841
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 8: me out all the time, but I don't like how

842
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 8: you show.

843
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 5: It, she didn't get the defenses. She said, how would

844
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 5: you like me to show it? Then zero defensiveness. Right,

845
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 5: When a woman who is that big and that.

846
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 8: Powerful and that talented and that famous can be demure

847
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 8: around you and you're not man enough to step up

848
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 8: to that that tells me that you are a man

849
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 8: who doesn't think he deserves it, and you will always

850
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 8: find a way to sabotage it. I think the proposal

851
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 8: air quotes ten times was a sabotage, attempt, subconscious sabotage,

852
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 8: because now I'm going to force her to reject me

853
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 8: so I have a place to house these feelings that

854
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 8: were already pre existing. He set that lady up and

855
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 8: then made her feel bad about not falling for the bait.

856
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: And then you get hit it with well, I asked

857
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: you to marry me, you said no, you're the one

858
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 4: that turned me down.

859
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 5: Nasty work you. I know what you are king.

860
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I wasn't as big as your last proposal,

861
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: and I can't measure up to what you expect from me.

862
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do my best.

863
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 8: Cloudily we bopping engaged a couple of times. We know

864
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 8: what happens when they're doing the okie dog.

865
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember getting a big old ring and

866
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 4: I remember getting nothing. Peanut colas.

867
00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: She dodged a bullet.

868
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 8: I'm happy her spirit guides her instincts of the spirit

869
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 8: of her grandmother, whatever was behind her ancestors.

870
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 5: But like girl we're not doing that.

871
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 8: It doesn't because has she been the kind of girl

872
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 8: who's like, Oh, let me just do it to make

873
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 8: my man happy.

874
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 5: We can have a big thing later. She would be

875
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 5: the whole other world of mess. Also to.

876
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 8: The scene that I saw of them talking about the IVF.

877
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 8: Look about the clip of the way you guys held.

878
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 5: Space for me and Claudia talking about our fertility journeys.

879
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 8: Right, the fact that our male call hosts are friends

880
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 8: had more compassion for us than her actual partner who

881
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 8: she's trying.

882
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 5: To have a baby with.

883
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was whack with that.

884
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 8: It's all nasty, And it's how men who are covertly

885
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 8: abusive act. They don't abuse you by being ugly with

886
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 8: you verbally or beating you up. They try to diminish

887
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 8: and diminish and diminish until you forget who you are.

888
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 4: I wish men that feel a way about their big women,

889
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 4: and I don't mean physical size, but their big in spirit,

890
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: big impersonality and ye energy will just leave us the

891
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: fuck alone. Don't like you know you're not gonna like

892
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: it in six months. You know you like it in

893
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: the beginning. You know that's an initial traction. But you

894
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: already know from people you dated before me that you

895
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 4: don't really like it. So go get with one more demure,

896
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: more quiet, where you could be the star. You can

897
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: feel like the big dog. Leave us alone because.

898
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 5: They want to break us, Claudia. The whole thing is

899
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: can I break her?

900
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 4: Yes, it is to get broken. Don't get get us,

901
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 4: to humble us and then blame us and say that

902
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 4: you were too much. You knew I was teamed too

903
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: much when you first got with me, yep, and you

904
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 4: probably said it to your friends. And you want your ego.

905
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: You want to break, break, break a siste down, Clauda.

906
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 8: Do you see the comment somebody said, at least she

907
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 8: didn't get a picture frame.

908
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: So Dustin, before I get your thought, I do want.

909
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 7: To ask the girls this first.

910
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: I know for a fact that unfortunately, when it comes

911
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: to female reality stars, it's hard to date and bring

912
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: the guy on the show because once you do, they

913
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: get the taste of fame.

914
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's a very listen.

915
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: Jay Z said once he said the most addictive drug

916
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: in the world is fame.

917
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: That when somebody gets.

918
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 7: It, for for some not all, but for some people

919
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 7: it's like they think for it it's an addiction.

920
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: They just need it and they'll do everything for it.

921
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: Why is it hard for the girls of reality TV

922
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: who are big, big personality, big careers. They're that girl

923
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 3: when it comes to meeting a guy. It sounds good beginning,

924
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: but in the end, what we have seen time and

925
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: time and time again is that they show behavior of

926
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: trying to humble a woman, but they also like the

927
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: fame that they now haven't cure.

928
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: Is it?

929
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: Is it because they are using these women as a

930
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 3: stepping stone for the fame, and they want to show

931
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: other women that they really do want what a boss

932
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 3: they are in the way they talked about.

933
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 8: No, I actually think it's not as intentional. I think

934
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 8: this is where it's tricky. I actually think the Reality

935
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 8: Girls and what they go through is a really accurate

936
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 8: display of what's happening with high powered women in the dating.

937
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 5: Pool in general. Okay, even without the fame.

938
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 8: The fame is very important, but what famous to reality television,

939
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 8: rent and utilities is to the every day, everyday man

940
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 8: who's trying to get him a big money girl.

941
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

942
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 8: As somebody who's been called big money more times and

943
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 8: I would like to count they're like, oh, what you mean.

944
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 5: A black as if you're speaking you up? Oh we

945
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 5: ain't got a drive? Who's weed? Why are you speaking French?

946
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 8: There are certain men in this world who feel disempowered.

947
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 8: We talked about the male loneliness epidemic. So you have

948
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 8: to think about it. While women are rising systemically and

949
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 8: making all this money and going to college and doing

950
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 8: reality TV because of systemic oppression, men who are not

951
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 8: equipped are having the male loneness epidemic. They're not being taught.

952
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 8: Let me take it back, sis heat men. This is

953
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 8: very specifically straight men. It's been studied they're not being

954
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 8: equipped with the emotional intelligence to deal with the shifting

955
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 8: that's happening in the dating pool.

956
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 5: They were taught by their fathers. We talked about this.

957
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 8: Your value is in provision. So if she can provide

958
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 8: better than me, I have no backup. Nobody taught me

959
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 8: how to tap into my emotions. Right, And if she

960
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 8: wants to talk to a sensible man, she has homeboys,

961
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 8: She has married homeboys that are already grandfather then or

962
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 8: is gay men who have more emotional intelligence because have

963
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 8: been fostered than them better?

964
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 5: So what does she need? Mean for every clip that

965
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 5: we've talked about Huntsville. Even it's a man who feels.

966
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 8: Small, who doesn't have the language and is lashing out

967
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 8: the woman who loves him, who's trying to diminish for him.

968
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 8: And so I think this is not just a fame thing.

969
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 8: I think there's a gender disparity being happening before our

970
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 8: eyes because.

971
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 5: Of a lack of mental health awareness. The man is depressed.

972
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 5: They've even said this. Many men when they're depressed, they

973
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 5: think they're horny. They don't even know that they want

974
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 5: to hug. They think they want some sexual validation and attention, right.

975
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 8: And so I think as long as we have a

976
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 8: world full of girls who are all about therapy and

977
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 8: getting their bag and straight men who are being taught

978
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 8: to like get angry and be in cells and not

979
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 8: go see the lady and get therapy for themselves, it's

980
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 8: going to keep on growing. And fame is like seasoning

981
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 8: salt that ads fired to something that was already kind.

982
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 5: Of in flames to begin with. So it's bad already.

983
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 8: I think they're an exaggerated version of what's happening in

984
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 8: the dating pool. Actually, my heart went out to QUAD

985
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 8: because I know girls with no fame and big direct

986
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 8: deposits who are going through the same thing.

987
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with Blue Girl. I do. I feel

988
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 4: like it's the same. It's yeah, girls on reality TV,

989
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 4: it's just in front of people. But talk to business women,

990
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: business owners, women that have like have it going on.

991
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 4: It's the same exact thing. It's just without yes CEOs.

992
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: It's the same exact thing. And that's why a lot

993
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: of women are opting out of relationships all together. I

994
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: think when women surpassed equality insteaded actually doing better than

995
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 4: some of the straight men that they're dating, it exposed

996
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 4: something about men that outside of provision of money, when

997
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: they don't have that to wave to dangle over your head,

998
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 4: a lot of them don't have They're not developed emotionally,

999
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 4: they don't have a personality. They can't sit in silence,

1000
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: They're awkward in silence. They're not confident. And a lot

1001
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: of men's worth and value came from money and what

1002
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 4: I got. I remember a guy hitting on me that had, oh,

1003
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: I can get your bends. At the time, I'm like,

1004
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 4: I got a bend struck, and he's like, well I

1005
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: could do this. I said, I got all that, and

1006
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 4: he goes, well, damn like he tried with the surface stuff. First.

1007
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 4: I said, no, you have to get me with your

1008
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: personality and with your brain. And when I said that,

1009
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 4: it freaked him out and it felt like a little

1010
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 4: boy was in front of me and he had nothing

1011
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 4: to say. And I think these men on reality TV

1012
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: similar to the men and the dating out in the wild.

1013
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 4: A powerful woman, a woman on TV, a woman with

1014
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 4: the light around her. Once they don't have that financial

1015
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 4: control of you, they can't financially abuse you and make

1016
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 4: you stay with them and blackmail you and stop, you know,

1017
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 4: dangle food and sustenance off your head. And then when

1018
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: it's one on one, it's just me and you and

1019
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 4: you got to talk to me a lot of times

1020
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: they got nothing to say. And I don't know what

1021
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 4: that falls on. Bad parenting growing up, not letting men

1022
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: express themselves as little boys and shutting them down when

1023
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: they try to cry, or whatever it is. I don't

1024
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: know what it is. I won't pretend to be an

1025
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 4: expert on that, but it is bad. And almost every

1026
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 4: powerful woman I have, i'm friends with that successful is single.

1027
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: And they say the men don't even bother approaching them anymore.

1028
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: And they say the big money thing or you got it?

1029
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 4: Or one time a guy said, well, you can pour

1030
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: into me, but I feel like I can't pour anything

1031
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: into you, and I thought it was so sad. I'm like,

1032
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 4: but I actually like you. I like, yeah, like your

1033
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 4: presence is enough. And they don't think. They don't believe

1034
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: us when we say they never tell them that it is.

1035
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 4: It's like, honestly, we work hard so we don't have

1036
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: to need you for these things, and we think that

1037
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: makes us attracted, but it actually makes us less attractive

1038
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 4: to these men, and then they leave your ass and

1039
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: go with the girl that needs them for sustenance. Yeah,

1040
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: fellas that are watching the show right now, Blue and I.

1041
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: Guy who watches Month in My Life, what's up.

1042
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 5: The show?

1043
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 4: Because their girlfriends made them. We are broke, Blue and Eye,

1044
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 4: I have lost all of our money. We have mel Madona.

1045
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: We're poor, so don't be intimidated.

1046
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: We're good.

1047
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 5: We need to please sir. Can I have a piece

1048
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 5: of Beme?

1049
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 4: I'm starving?

1050
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: You meet me?

1051
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: Can I have get my hair done?

1052
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: Right?

1053
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 6: They he knew what the fuck he was doing, and

1054
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 6: he did that ship in that car, and he knew

1055
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 6: Choir wasn't having that he knew exactly what he was doing,

1056
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 6: and that's the beginning and end of it. We talked

1057
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 6: about it in depth over on our Mary to Medicine

1058
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 6: on Patreon and gonna check that out. But King knew

1059
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 6: exactly what he was doing by he said that was

1060
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 6: a setup for an exit. That's what that was.

1061
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: So he was talking to her kind of harsh when

1062
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: they would if I was like, I'm like, wait, even

1063
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 4: dust and girls and talk to us like what the hell? Yeah? Right.

1064
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: The thing the thing with King is this.

1065
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, and I don't have a bone

1066
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 3: in the fight dog and Sipe called child.

1067
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 4: Not a bone I have all.

1068
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: The thing with King King is just one of my friends.

1069
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 3: She's a woman and she's born and raised in Jamaica,

1070
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 3: like born and raised there, and she watches Married to

1071
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 3: Medicine and she'll text me about her thoughts on the

1072
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 3: showves whatever.

1073
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: And she had this thing about King.

1074
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: She was like, there's something about King, and I'm like,

1075
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 3: tell your girl Quads to stay away from him.

1076
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, I'm not gonna do that, right, but

1077
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: like whatever.

1078
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: So long story short, the Jamaica trip, she found out

1079
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 3: he's from Jamaica. So Maja, she's Jamaican. She said, that's

1080
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: why I was triggered. He reminds me of everybody in

1081
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: my life who is from Jamaica, including my dad. And

1082
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: she said, Carlos, I can tell you Jamaican men they

1083
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 3: have this ego where they really do think you should

1084
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 3: washle the ground they walk on and they talk to

1085
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: you crazy.

1086
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: And granted I don't think she was well, she was

1087
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 2: a child. I'm not saying this is all Jamaican men.

1088
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 5: It's Caribbean men. Caribbean.

1089
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say.

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Speaker 7: She was telling me about a lot of my friends

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Speaker 7: who are West ending Caribbean. They were saying that that's

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Speaker 7: just the culture of those men. And I think the

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00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 7: thing with King King treated Quad like he.

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00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: King treated Quad as if she should be happy that

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Speaker 2: he chose her.

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00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 3: It was sort of like, you should be happy that

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: I'm even spending money to do this. And the one

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00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 3: thing that he said and the one on one seen,

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Speaker 3: was when he was talking about how she talks to him.

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Speaker 3: He said, you know, when you were going through this process,

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Speaker 3: and it was sort of like, but y'all are doing

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00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 3: this together, and I feel like unfortunately King was never

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00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: invested in having a child with Quad. That's my thoughts

1104
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: on it. He talks to her crazy. To me, I

1105
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: don't like how he speaks to her, and every time

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00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: he says you you you, and you're your your, he never.

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Speaker 7: Talks about us, And I thought that was the red flag.

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Speaker 3: And like Dustin said on Patreon, seeing them not together anymore,

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00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 3: I think it's best for her to be single.

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Speaker 4: So do you think think King wanted his batty chain? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I do, I do.

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Speaker 7: I was turned up by the whole thing about him

1113
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 7: wanting a masculine son like that for me all because

1114
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Speaker 7: it really spoke about like, okay, please tell me you're

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Speaker 7: not one of those men.

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Speaker 2: Who are homophobic, right, Yeah, I don't know if he is.

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Speaker 6: But what you trying to say?

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00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and for me kind of prettymature.

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Speaker 4: Want to say that when you haven't even conceived.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because he has a daughter, Yes he has he

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00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: has a daughter. So to to have.

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Speaker 3: This desire in twenty twenty six to have a masculine son,

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Speaker 3: to me, it's stupid because masculinity isn't a personality, it's

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00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 3: not a matterism. It's what you ladies are saying that,

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00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: y'all want from men nowadays. Can you be emotionally available,

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: Can you make me feel safe?

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00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: Can you pour into me?

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00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: That's masculinity where you're not afraid of doing these things

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00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 3: because you're afraid of being seen as a bitch. And

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: I think that's the problem with a lot of these men, unfortunately,

1131
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: who don't understand how today a woman of means and

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00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: that's the unfortunate part.

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00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 5: Hope masculinity makes you say say, it's why.

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Speaker 8: When she said that, I was like, oh, he's gonna

1135
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 8: be triggered, But she didn't lie to hyper masculinity is fragile,

1136
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 8: like the hyper masculinity that Sis had men choose. It's fragile.

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00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 8: I always say, listen, this is not the views of

1138
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 8: anybody else in this thing. So if you're mad, don't

1139
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 8: be mad at them. It hurts my heart that being

1140
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 8: around queer men who are comfortable with themselves and their

1141
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 8: sexuality and their masculinity while also showing tenderness is the

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00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 8: kind of masculine safety that I thought would be getting

1143
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 8: from straight men. And knowing it's possible and men in general,

1144
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,959
Speaker 8: is why I ache for it in straight man because

1145
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 8: I know it exists, so I know I didn't make

1146
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 8: it up because I'm seeing it with my homeboys. Why

1147
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 8: can't y'all figure it out? And I'm like, oh, your

1148
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 8: daddy didn't didn't raise you properly. And I'm being so sincere,

1149
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 8: like they're cosplaying their fathers. But look at your father

1150
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 8: and your mother's relationship. Your mama looks miserable. I don't

1151
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 8: want to look like everything I've been through.

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00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, facts right, walk around looking like we on fences.

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00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's worth the questions.

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00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: Jesus. I do think and listen, you know, I like

1155
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: to be fair.

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00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: I do think we have to make our black boys

1157
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: feel safe to show emotion, and that does start at home.

1158
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: And I think to mothers who are raising boys on

1159
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 3: their own, you have to because again I'm not gonna

1160
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: get into this because it's a celebrity sister who was

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00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: chastising her son because she and and.

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00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you we have. It starts, and it starts at

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Speaker 2: the youth.

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Speaker 7: You can't you can't tell your son boys, don't cry.

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00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: You can't tell your son suck it up.

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00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: You can't tell your son those things because they are

1167
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 3: going to grow up and and they're going to act

1168
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 3: out in various ways. Where they end up in jail,

1169
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: or they end up being mormanizers, or they end up

1170
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Speaker 3: having six baby mamas.

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Speaker 2: So I do think.

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Speaker 3: All of us mothers, dads, everybody, we have to start

1173
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 3: raising our young especially the black boys. We have to

1174
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: start raising young black boys to give emotion. And that

1175
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 3: is not soft. You're not a punk, You're not a can.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I say it, You're not those things that

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01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 3: are you know what I'm saying, Sassy, drop the A

1178
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 3: and put the I.

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01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: You're not those things.

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Speaker 3: And I think what you said, Blue and Claudia is

1181
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 3: so beautiful about me and dusted because I.

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Speaker 2: Don't give a shit.

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01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 3: And I notice like growing up being told all of

1184
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: those things, right, I have to shake that shit off

1185
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: from what I was told by my dad and how

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01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 3: my mother did her best to protect me against what

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01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 3: she felt was going to be the.

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 7: World attacking me again is what we need. So it's

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Speaker 7: a different time.

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Speaker 3: So it starts at home and for the women who

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01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: are successful, like Michelle Obama said her mother raised her talk.

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Speaker 2: While she coddled her brother. Yep, and we have to

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01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: undo all of it.

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Speaker 4: I have a cousin that was so mean to his son,

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Speaker 4: and you know you're going to be a say the

1196
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: F word, and you know, I'm like, yo, chill, Like

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01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 4: why can't he express himself that he's artistic and creative

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01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 4: and emotional, Like, there's gotta be away straight fathers out

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01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 4: there with your sons to not shame your son to

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: having emotion and to having feelings and think that's a

1201
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 4: bad thing because then they grow up to be these

1202
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 4: one dimensional woman beaters and resentful. He real equipped, Yeah,

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 4: they can't have a conversation. Everything you anything you say

1204
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 4: to them, and you want to have a conversation to them,

1205
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 4: it feels like you're an attack to them because they've

1206
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 4: never learned how to be emotional. They never had to

1207
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 4: learn how to express themselves except.

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 5: Fighting g I.

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01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 4: Joe wrestling. They can have a emostly intelligent conversation and

1210
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 4: then we gotta deal with them. So please stop doing

1211
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 4: that to your sons and making them feel away. If

1212
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 4: they're gay, straight, who gives them be happy? They're healthy

1213
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 4: and good people. I cannot say that. I was so mad.

1214
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 4: I want of my family members for doing that to

1215
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 4: his son. And then they have no relationship now and

1216
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 4: he's like ostracized. He didn't really have a relationship with

1217
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 4: his dad because his father like shamed him as a

1218
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 4: little kid. The kid was like a little boy. I

1219
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 4: was so mad about that. It's not cool.

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01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 3: It's not yeah, So Ray go on our Patreon so

1221
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 3: you can hear the rest of me and dusn't talk

1222
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: about marathon medicine.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Claudia Blue and Dustin. I love the three of you.

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01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: Mischief please and next Monday.

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Speaker 4: Sorry for the seat word, my bad.

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimetz, and a partnership.

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