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Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, September eleventh, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,
Speaker 1: episode number forty one. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are locked Nesst, WBC Morriage Studios at the Star
Speaker 1: and got my crewe here, Nick, Dave Amber. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the Washington Redskins today. Dave has a breakdown
Speaker 1: for us on the Washington offense. We defer on this show,
Speaker 1: and we will go with offense today. We'll go with
Speaker 1: defense tomorrow. But before we do that, I want to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit Jeff something. I was just saying,
Speaker 1: there's some injuries. Things we do we talk about injuries,
Speaker 1: No we didn't. Yeah, there were real quick keeping an
Speaker 1: injury update. Tavon Austin apparently has a concussion um that
Speaker 1: they found out concussion like symptoms like and you know
Speaker 1: it's always everybody's all dicey about whether they want to
Speaker 1: call it a concussion or but from the sounds of it,
Speaker 1: he you know, he felt fine Monday, came in and
Speaker 1: did like run team run and stuff like that. But
Speaker 1: he came in today and was like, I like, my
Speaker 1: my head feels fuzzy, like I'm still kind of feeling
Speaker 1: the effects. Apparently it was a block he made or
Speaker 1: took in the game, and so he's not a practice. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll see how serious that is. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's a full blown concussion or just kind of being
Speaker 1: careful with him. And Randall Cobb had some ribs injuries,
Speaker 1: but he was out there, so that would be one
Speaker 1: that returner. He's the Yeah, good point. Jeff Heath also
Speaker 1: out there. Yep. Every everybody that you know you would
Speaker 1: ask about was there, Um, Tyrant, Zach Cooper, Cobb, Heath.
Speaker 1: And they have signed Chris Chris Covington. So now we
Speaker 1: have Chris and yeah, linebacker Chris Covington. Uh, he's on
Speaker 1: the active roster now. And when they released Jordan Chun yesterday,
Speaker 1: Chun will not be back on the practice squad. They
Speaker 1: signed Darius Jackson to the practice squad. I gets his
Speaker 1: number twenty six back in the lumbu goes back to
Speaker 1: thirty two, although which, yeah, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: the way it was explained to me just now is
Speaker 1: Darius Jackson is here. I assume he was already in
Speaker 1: the area. They waived Chun and so he can't be
Speaker 1: on the practice squad until today, and they needed a
Speaker 1: running back for practice. So it's just like a temporary thing.
Speaker 1: We'll see. Oh man, it's totally plumb. Goes back to
Speaker 1: twenty six. Maybe it's it is completely possible that Darius
Speaker 1: could just be helping them get through practice like today
Speaker 1: and tomorrow. I don't know, but that's the way it
Speaker 1: was explaining to me is I don't think they're necessarily
Speaker 1: permanently done with Jordan Chun, but he can't be here
Speaker 1: for practice right now because he hasn't officially cleared waivers,
Speaker 1: and so they needed it back and they were I
Speaker 1: assume they were like, hey, Darius, you're still down the
Speaker 1: street right What was an irrelevant question? But whatever happened
Speaker 1: to Jamie Showers? He every time you mentioned there is Jackson,
Speaker 1: I think of Jamial pregame show. He's got he doesn't
Speaker 1: have practice squat eligibility. He can't be on I mean
Speaker 1: unless you put him on the fifty three, he can't
Speaker 1: be here. So he's done. So. But you guys have
Speaker 1: been talking about Jordan Seun from the standpoint that he
Speaker 1: was more of a special teams guy. Him down. Well,
Speaker 1: seventeen special teams snaps the other night, I think is
Speaker 1: what I heard. I think. I think what happens is
Speaker 1: Covington's a better linebacker, better special teams player than him.
Speaker 1: But when they had when they kept John, they didn't
Speaker 1: know exactly when Zeke was coming back, and if so,
Speaker 1: was he gonna look like so at least you've got
Speaker 1: three backs and a linebacker ish type special teams player.
Speaker 1: Now that Zeke's back and he's going to be fine
Speaker 1: and all that, now now it's just special teams. I'd
Speaker 1: rather just have the linebacker. Yes, I think that's what
Speaker 1: it comes down. So coming to a better special teams player,
Speaker 1: so it's better who can't play running back, which he
Speaker 1: played quarterback in college. But I think he's bigger now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a big dude. Safe high school college, he played
Speaker 1: some in India. Yeah, he started out there. So that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you don't see a lot of nick
Speaker 1: tattooed guys and quarterbacks quarterback not really What does that
Speaker 1: say about him? Like is he extra tough? Because he isn't?
Speaker 1: I think so. I think if you have neck tattoo,
Speaker 1: I think you are extra tough. Yes, I think he's
Speaker 1: still mess with it. I think so it really is.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know anyone really that closely
Speaker 1: that has a neck tattoo, but I would think you're
Speaker 1: tough with somebody and he's just like the sweetest thing,
Speaker 1: but he looks tough and just like that's the thing
Speaker 1: approached me. Would you guys want to do it as
Speaker 1: a show? The Break? No? I no, I don't The Break?
Speaker 1: How nerdy? How nerdy? Is it? On a scale of
Speaker 1: one to ten? That? Like? The thing that I'm most
Speaker 1: fascinated about is how they handle the jerseys with Christian
Speaker 1: and Chris Covington now playing on the same time defense,
Speaker 1: So what are they gonna do? I don't know, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, I can put a full name,
Speaker 1: so how they know, like they have the same last
Speaker 1: name and it's all the way up to the first
Speaker 1: five letters. So you're gonna have Chris Covington and that
Speaker 1: matters it. You're right, because they may have Roy Williams,
Speaker 1: Randa Williams. It was Roe Williams and Row Williams, Like
Speaker 1: why why how about just thirty one eighty nine? I
Speaker 1: didn't say the number Williams plus thirty one means Williams, right,
Speaker 1: Roy Williams, right, Maybe they will. I'm gonna find an
Speaker 1: equipment guy today and I'm gonna talk to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I just think that's interesting. It is interesting. The
Speaker 1: interesting thing is they both play defense, so you could
Speaker 1: have situations that could be a little confused. But you
Speaker 1: would think the letters in eighty point font, I mean,
Speaker 1: the numbers in eighty point font would tip you off
Speaker 1: not to mention the body weight, like this guy's two
Speaker 1: thirty five, because in college football you'll see like six
Speaker 1: number one and number two's out there, so it's more confusing.
Speaker 1: That's good, pointless, but it's cool. I get it, all right,
Speaker 1: So let's move on. I do want to talk before
Speaker 1: we get to the Washington Redskins. I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about something that's kind of popped up
Speaker 1: here of the last twenty four hours on social media. Um,
Speaker 1: there was a situation where DeMarcus Lawrence was captured on video.
Speaker 1: There was a kid who had on a se Quon
Speaker 1: Barkley jersey who walked up to him after the game
Speaker 1: and wanted an autograph, and DeMarcus basically brushed him off.
Speaker 1: You got on the wrong jersey, kid, basically, And and
Speaker 1: it's obviously blown up and taken on a life of
Speaker 1: its own now from the standpoint of I think I
Speaker 1: think Bleacher Report did something on it. That's at least
Speaker 1: who who Tank reference in a tweet he followed up
Speaker 1: with later on. But the question I have for you
Speaker 1: guys is is this is the idea of criticizing a
Speaker 1: player for doing something like that unfair or do you
Speaker 1: think that's that's his responsibility and he has he does
Speaker 1: have a responsibility to do that in those situations, I
Speaker 1: would say, I mean, doesn't that just kind of goes
Speaker 1: with the dinner of being an NFL Well, I don't
Speaker 1: want to speak to too broadly, but I guess my
Speaker 1: point is these guys are judged and critiqued for every
Speaker 1: little thing they do, and that's part of what goes
Speaker 1: along with getting paid one hundred million dollars like that
Speaker 1: is the drawback of it, you know, is anything you
Speaker 1: do can has the potential to happen like that. But
Speaker 1: should it I get that, that's that's the lot, and
Speaker 1: that's what it what it is, But should it be
Speaker 1: is it Is it unfair to criticize a player for
Speaker 1: something like that? Um? Yeah? In this case, I think so.
Speaker 1: He took it to a different level. You don't want
Speaker 1: to sign autograph, that's fine, you don't have to sign autographs.
Speaker 1: I think he took it to another level by kind
Speaker 1: of pointing out a reason why, even though clearly he
Speaker 1: was in like powerwalk mode, I'm getting out of this place,
Speaker 1: I'm going to wherever I'm gonna go, he wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: sign autographs. You signed for one, you signed for fifty.
Speaker 1: I get it, So just do just do that. And
Speaker 1: I wrote a column on this whole situation, and I
Speaker 1: even pointed out two different Hall of Fame players that
Speaker 1: I have seen one grab my own suitcase so they
Speaker 1: could fill up both of their hands to walk past
Speaker 1: people so they don't have to sign. Another this year
Speaker 1: asked me to do an interview with him so he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to sign on the field. A training camp
Speaker 1: they don't want to do it, there's a difference then,
Speaker 1: But by just kind of I didn't hear you, right,
Speaker 1: oh okay, and training camp this year and then you know,
Speaker 1: so I understand that, like you don't want to do it,
Speaker 1: but by kind of calling out that you have the
Speaker 1: wrong jersey on that, to me takes it to a
Speaker 1: different level. Um, I still love the Marcus so long
Speaker 1: as I think he's great. I think he's got his
Speaker 1: own personality. He's a real dude. I think Dave will
Speaker 1: tell you he's a real person. Unfortunately, those ten seconds
Speaker 1: I don't think are really what d laws about. I
Speaker 1: don't think, but it's unfortunate that happens. I means cell
Speaker 1: phones are everywhere now and that that's what happens, I
Speaker 1: would say, And I would be a hypocrite if I
Speaker 1: killed Tank for that, because I love his authenticity and
Speaker 1: like we argue all the time, I roll my eyes
Speaker 1: at some of the phony dudes in the NFL who
Speaker 1: will go out of their way to make sure that
Speaker 1: a video of them saying something like that never happened,
Speaker 1: because because they're they're never real. They're they're spokesmen and
Speaker 1: not people. That's what they act like, so I really
Speaker 1: appreciate that DeMarcus Lawrence isn't like that. And you know
Speaker 1: he and and but that's not the full picture because
Speaker 1: as you know, if you're on social media, you saw
Speaker 1: last night he went, you know, he went and gave
Speaker 1: backpacks and and gave back to what ninety kids from
Speaker 1: from the Frisco ISSD and gave them school supplies and
Speaker 1: and even that was getting criticized because he's like, oh
Speaker 1: you you did that to that one kid with the jersey,
Speaker 1: and then you go out and come back and start posting.
Speaker 1: And they didn't like the community of Frisco because it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's portrayed as a higher class, you know,
Speaker 1: community than some some other one. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know I think that that's and I saw what you
Speaker 1: did on social media. You're like, well, did you what
Speaker 1: did you tell were you doing? Lest would you do
Speaker 1: last night? Did you help ninety people? Right? I kind
Speaker 1: of I kind of appreciate, you know, he can be
Speaker 1: the same guy that talks trash to the Sequan kid
Speaker 1: and then still goes and does the school thing in
Speaker 1: the community, Like it doesn't have to be black and
Speaker 1: white as always. That's my That's my number one thing
Speaker 1: is like nobody ever wants a nuance, like you have
Speaker 1: to have a take. You didn't read my column because
Speaker 1: no one as it's not out. Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: getting there. But that's the first thing I say is
Speaker 1: that it's not black and white. Some things aren't black
Speaker 1: and white. There's some gray areas here and this one
Speaker 1: is this is one of those situations. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what your stance on that is, but but I mean,
Speaker 1: my whole problem with it is I feel like I felt,
Speaker 1: and this is just our society in general. I think
Speaker 1: everybody has a sense of entitlement, and in this instance,
Speaker 1: I think there is a sense of entitlement on the
Speaker 1: part of the people that criticize Tank that he somehow
Speaker 1: owes this kid an autograph. He doesn't owe anybody an autograph.
Speaker 1: If he chooses to do an autograph, great, And as
Speaker 1: you and I were talking about before the show, if
Speaker 1: he wants his public perception to be whatever, if he
Speaker 1: wants it to be jj Watt like where he goes
Speaker 1: and he throws balls to, you know, fans of his
Speaker 1: team and fans of the other team before the game,
Speaker 1: then great, do that because you're trying to build a brand.
Speaker 1: If you don't, Yeah, if you want to not sign
Speaker 1: this autograph, if you would rather be more authentic from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of being like, you know, guess what, you're
Speaker 1: not a fan of my team, so I'm not signing it.
Speaker 1: That's okay. Nobody's entitles here. No fan is entitled to
Speaker 1: an autograph. The player is not bound to have to
Speaker 1: give an auto If he chooses to do it, it's
Speaker 1: his right to do it. And that's where I have
Speaker 1: a problem with people criticizing players because they choose in
Speaker 1: that moment that's not the space I meant right now,
Speaker 1: Or I choose not to do this because I have
Speaker 1: a right with my likeness to decide what I want
Speaker 1: to do. That's fine if he if he's okay with that,
Speaker 1: if they're his team, and then know that's why he's
Speaker 1: not getting the endorsement. That's why his jersey's aren't really
Speaker 1: all over the place at a teen team statum, just
Speaker 1: because like, there are different levels of global superstars and
Speaker 1: I don't even know what man who knows if that
Speaker 1: kid even is a Giants fan or is he just
Speaker 1: a sequon Barkley fan because he's on that level. J J. Watt,
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, Steph Curry, Lebron James, all across the place.
Speaker 1: You see dads that are probably Dallas Mavericks fans and
Speaker 1: their sons, Like I want to go and watch Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: That kid was like DeMarcus. DeMarcus wanted an autograph there,
Speaker 1: So like I just think, like, you're right, he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to have that level. But just know that there's
Speaker 1: there's great players, there's Pro Bowl players, there's elite, iconic
Speaker 1: global stars, and it takes that kind of thing to
Speaker 1: do that to be like, you know what, I love
Speaker 1: your jersey, but I'll sign it. Now that video is
Speaker 1: going viral and he has a different perception. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: really I struggle to form a firm take on this
Speaker 1: because at this I mean I joke about this all
Speaker 1: the time. Actually, Like I get if you've been to
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl and you play for the Cowboys, I
Speaker 1: get notifications when you tweet, and it's a running joke
Speaker 1: for me, Like when Dak Prescott tweets, it's an ad.
Speaker 1: It's always an ad. It's so bland, it's so lame.
Speaker 1: And DeMarcus Lawrence is a genuinely he's the opposite. He's
Speaker 1: tweeting about killing Eli Manning and he's defending Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's he's defending himself from fans that think
Speaker 1: he's mean for for not signing this kid's autograph. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, I really I appreciate that in this
Speaker 1: day and age, he is an authentic NFL superstar who
Speaker 1: will tell you how he feels, because a lot of
Speaker 1: them won't. Um. I think it goes back to the parents.
Speaker 1: What the parents did? I mean again, the kids parents
Speaker 1: kind of pushed him out. Yeah, that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: Like I just I have a bit of a that's
Speaker 1: a personal thing. I have a bit of a problem
Speaker 1: with that, just because I always tell my kids and
Speaker 1: my daughters. Y'all know, my daughter's a big theater nut,
Speaker 1: and I always tell her respect what a person does.
Speaker 1: You don't know who they are behind the scenes. So
Speaker 1: trying too hard to be the fan where it's like
Speaker 1: I want I want to like, I gotta get this autograph.
Speaker 1: I got just slow down a little bit in in
Speaker 1: idolizing these people, because they still are people and you
Speaker 1: don't know who they are beyond what they do, right,
Speaker 1: And so I have a little bit of a problem
Speaker 1: with the parent that's like pushing their kid out there
Speaker 1: go get the autograph. Like, so, now, if the kid
Speaker 1: wants to get the autograph, let the kid get the autograph.
Speaker 1: But you don't need to, like, you don't have to
Speaker 1: spur them on, right. I may be wrong on that.
Speaker 1: That's just my own personal No, that's the same thing
Speaker 1: I thought. And it's like a lot of parents try
Speaker 1: to get certain things through their kids or like made
Speaker 1: the kid do things, you know, so you don't you
Speaker 1: don't really know whether he was a fan or not.
Speaker 1: And DeMarcus, yes, he could have maybe handled it better,
Speaker 1: like say it more jokingly, maybe fist bump him. He's like,
Speaker 1: oh you have a better jersey or whatever, joking. But
Speaker 1: I think that most people around here, in the media
Speaker 1: that works around here, it can confirm how DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: like his true character, and that doesn't really represent who
Speaker 1: he is. He's better than that. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't care that much about it because
Speaker 1: it doesn't really change my opinion of how I feel
Speaker 1: like I seen enough of DeMarcus Lawrence, like I feel
Speaker 1: like I have a good idea of like his true
Speaker 1: character like you said, he's also you never one hundred
Speaker 1: percent know what you're gonna get from him, which again
Speaker 1: I respect, so you know, in the tank and one
Speaker 1: thing that I shared in the story that I think
Speaker 1: that is important too, when you when you kind of
Speaker 1: get to know both sides of it. Last year at
Speaker 1: the hospital visits, I walked around with him for six
Speaker 1: or seven different rooms that he went into, and he
Speaker 1: got choked up in every single one of them, just
Speaker 1: seeing these kids and their parents there and asking them,
Speaker 1: you know, because because it's an annual visit, and a
Speaker 1: lot of the guys, hey, they put on the Santa hat,
Speaker 1: they put on the jersey, they smiled and they hey,
Speaker 1: you know, and they leave and it's their day off.
Speaker 1: And all that DeMarcus was asking them what they wanted
Speaker 1: for Christmas. They were telling them, he was writing it
Speaker 1: down and having their pr people representative write it down,
Speaker 1: and then the next day or two he made sure
Speaker 1: that those families and kids got exactly what they were
Speaker 1: asking for, which you don't have to do as a
Speaker 1: part of that whole too. That was not so the deal,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want that even probably out there, but
Speaker 1: but I just think it's important to know that, Like,
Speaker 1: it's not they didn't like kids. I've seen him at
Speaker 1: Chuck E Cheese twice. What's that say about me? I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm just saying, did you did have
Speaker 1: your kids? Yeah? Yeah, okay, I think that doesn't say
Speaker 1: anything weird. He lives there that they go there every
Speaker 1: every off day. They on all or nothing. They talked
Speaker 1: about it. He his kids every week, So he loves kids.
Speaker 1: It's signed about that. He was going out. He was
Speaker 1: going you know, like, and he knows that you stopped
Speaker 1: for one day. Will tell you when he signed at Oxner.
Speaker 1: When you signed for one, you have to sign for
Speaker 1: all of them there. Yeah, so all right, let's go
Speaker 1: and take our first break and we come back. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Washington Redskins. Cowboys will face the
Speaker 1: Redskins this Sunday. Uh. They take a loss last week
Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia Eagles. We're gonna find out what this
Speaker 1: offense is about, maybe a little better than you think.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we come right back. This
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Speaker 1: County or Alexandria or staying at the White House, right,
Speaker 1: I mean at the White three blocks away, So we're
Speaker 1: staying inside the city this time. I've never done that before. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: have we just it's been a while. Yeah, amused us
Speaker 1: being out in like resting or something. That's why I
Speaker 1: made the joke. We're doing a lot of things differently
Speaker 1: this year, are we? Yeah? Black winning? Yeah, wow, one
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Speaker 1: give us your your to report on these Washington riskins. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Washington offense. We can do that. Um, how do
Speaker 1: how do I want to start this? I don't ask
Speaker 1: me ask one of my questions was the quarterback. He's
Speaker 1: never played against the Cowboys ever. Court Really, I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that last week eighty yards passing, yeah, three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He looked. Okay, he looked he looked pretty good. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Maybe it's just so I went home yesterday,
Speaker 1: I watched the whole Cowboys offense all twenty two, and
Speaker 1: then I watched Washington and like the whole time, I
Speaker 1: was like, God, it's like a different sport because Jay Gruden,
Speaker 1: he's a West Coast guy. I mean, obviously it's not
Speaker 1: pure West Coast, but like it's a lot of under
Speaker 1: center stuff. It's that like it looks old like that,
Speaker 1: you know, dropping back from under center and like turning
Speaker 1: your back to the line of scrimmage, like a lot
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I was just like, these are some
Speaker 1: slow developing plays. And they started running more shotgun, but
Speaker 1: like they ran like ten plays in a row under center.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this just looks strange to me.
Speaker 1: So that was my first impression. But it worked. Like
Speaker 1: you said, he threw for three hundred and eighty yards.
Speaker 1: A boatload of that went to Terry McLaurin, who so
Speaker 1: that's probably your name to know. He's new to this matchup.
Speaker 1: He's a rookie out of Ohio State. I'm impressive that
Speaker 1: a rookie does at his first game. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: something that I mean as flattering and you're gonna laugh
Speaker 1: at me. Okay, he reminds me of Terence Williams. Not again,
Speaker 1: stop not like not all the not what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like he can really scoot. He's
Speaker 1: deceptively fast, got it he doesn't. He can get open.
Speaker 1: He's not really a speech but he can get he doesn't.
Speaker 1: You're not like, it's not like Tavon Austin, Like, man,
Speaker 1: that guy's really fast. But all of a sudden, he's
Speaker 1: sixty yards down field. He ran four three five, So
Speaker 1: he's not slow. He can scoot. Yeah, and he's got
Speaker 1: He's got like a Terrence type of build too. And
Speaker 1: I feel like I saw him make at least one
Speaker 1: bodycatch on tape, so maybe maybe there's more. Was he
Speaker 1: coming out of college? Like do you remember him from
Speaker 1: last year? What he was? He was a senior Bowl guy.
Speaker 1: He was dustin corners in mobile um a lot like
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you his stats at Ohio State, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't on that level of like he wasn't on
Speaker 1: the Devin's same level as like Devin Smith coming out
Speaker 1: of school. Um, but very fast, very talented. All of
Speaker 1: his damage in this game was just getting behind the secondary.
Speaker 1: So that's something to watch. Um what rounds he picked
Speaker 1: him third? Okay, um, Which it's funny that he had
Speaker 1: such a big game because otherwise you're like, man, who
Speaker 1: the hell do they have catching passes for him? Because
Speaker 1: Jordan Reed was out, We're gonna need to watch him
Speaker 1: over the course of the week. But he didn't play.
Speaker 1: So Vernon Davis did a lot. Jeremy Sprink We'll pig
Speaker 1: Suey he's up there. Um other yeah, yeah, he did
Speaker 1: do that. Stole the spotlight at the Belk Bowl. Paul
Speaker 1: Richardson you might remember him. And then the other gets
Speaker 1: so if I'm trying to highlight people for you to watch,
Speaker 1: Trey Quinn is the other one came out of SMU,
Speaker 1: was actually at LSU before that. He's there Cole Beasley.
Speaker 1: He's a little bit bigger, but it's very similar. So
Speaker 1: he actually he had five catches for forty yards in
Speaker 1: this game too, and so you watch him, and he's
Speaker 1: doing all the same stuff, the crossing routes, the sitdowns,
Speaker 1: the you know, cutting in and then cutting out, whatever
Speaker 1: you call that, and it made me I'm like, how
Speaker 1: are they going to cover this guy? Because that's how
Speaker 1: they're gonna move the chains. And I actually went back
Speaker 1: and watched last year's game where he had five catches
Speaker 1: for twenty six yards and a touchdown, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: used Anthony Brown and he actually did a really good job.
Speaker 1: He caught a touchdown, but it was kind of in
Speaker 1: a prevent like, don't let anything get behind you type
Speaker 1: of situation. Anthony Brown played really well against him and
Speaker 1: actually got a pick on kind of like a stutter
Speaker 1: go down the seam, and he just played it really
Speaker 1: well and undercut it. So I wonder if they'll do
Speaker 1: that again because maybe handled himself really well. What else
Speaker 1: did I see? The right side of their offensive line
Speaker 1: is the side that's supposed to be good. That's where
Speaker 1: Brandon Schurf is at guard. Morgan Moses got a second
Speaker 1: contract at tackle. They got bullied. They got bullied really
Speaker 1: bad by the Eagles. Timmy Jernagin blew up Schurf for
Speaker 1: the only Eagles only sack of the game, and I
Speaker 1: don't remember and gave it one sack. Yes, interesting they did.
Speaker 1: Um I'm struggling to remember who was playing left Oh,
Speaker 1: Derek Barnett, the first round draft pick. He beat up
Speaker 1: on Moses pretty good. Um let's Moses had a holding penalty.
Speaker 1: So Moses was the one that said it was a
Speaker 1: slap in the face that Adrian Peterson wasn't playing. Sounds
Speaker 1: he got slapped around pretty good to the right side
Speaker 1: of the offensive line, Like everybody's worried about the left
Speaker 1: side because it's Donald Penn who they signed a month
Speaker 1: ago because Trent Williams won't show up. And Eric Flowers
Speaker 1: our old friend. He's playing left guard now. And they,
Speaker 1: I mean, they had their moments, but like they held
Speaker 1: up pretty well compared Flowers held up. They helped. I
Speaker 1: mean Flowers had a holding guard. Actually Flowers had you
Speaker 1: hide him a little bit. Flowers had consecutive holding penalties
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter when they were trying to come back,
Speaker 1: but they still played. The point being is like the
Speaker 1: right side has all the money and they didn't play
Speaker 1: that well either, So so Hocket kept collapsing. Was Eric
Speaker 1: Flowers up against um um, I'm not trying to blank
Speaker 1: on the defensive tackles. Yeahs. And he only gave up
Speaker 1: he didn't give up a sack. Kimmy Jernigan had the
Speaker 1: only sack of the Wow. Yeah, that's impressive. Is their
Speaker 1: quarterback very mobile? No, And that's actually that's a great question,
Speaker 1: because he did. I mean he he had three yards.
Speaker 1: He had a good game. But like when and this
Speaker 1: is football all one on one, not trying to sound
Speaker 1: like a super smart guy, but like when he didn't
Speaker 1: have time, it all kind of fell apart, like when
Speaker 1: he had to move or when he went off schedule.
Speaker 1: Because again, like I said, it's so weird to watch.
Speaker 1: You're turning your back to the line of scrimmage, like
Speaker 1: you know, five seven step drop and turning and looking
Speaker 1: at your targets and when the pocket gets pushed it
Speaker 1: it didn't. It didn't look anywhere near as good. Like
Speaker 1: when he had time to sit back there and step
Speaker 1: up and look around, he was fine. I mean he
Speaker 1: had like eight seconds on the deep ball to McLaren
Speaker 1: that went for like a sixty sixty eight yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: I think when it pushes back on him, it didn't
Speaker 1: look anywhere near as good. And he had four or
Speaker 1: five really rough throws where he was off schedule, so shocking.
Speaker 1: If you can put pressure on the quarterback, he's not
Speaker 1: as good. And what's encouraging for me is the left
Speaker 1: side of the Cowboys D line is where DeMarcus Lawrence is,
Speaker 1: So hey, go do that, d law I don't know what,
Speaker 1: um I think this is. I think this is a
Speaker 1: really favorable matchup. Um, we don't know what it'll look
Speaker 1: like with Adrian Peterson. He obviously didn't play. Darius Guys
Speaker 1: isn't going to play in this game. Um. Chris Thompson
Speaker 1: is always a guy to watch that. He's another guy
Speaker 1: that they're going to manufacture touches for him, like they're
Speaker 1: gonna run at least a few screen passes to him.
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to get him the ball on those
Speaker 1: swing routes. They've been doing it for years. He's been
Speaker 1: there since thirteen. I think it's been that low. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: that's time starts injuries though, hasn't he every year? A lot?
Speaker 1: He's Lance Dunbar except better, way better. Yeah. Now, he
Speaker 1: did lead their team in receptions with seven last week,
Speaker 1: which signals to me that he's a guy that's probably
Speaker 1: gonna get some a lot of opportunities. He's a guy
Speaker 1: that think they are it's a good screen. He's he's
Speaker 1: not like obvious, he's not gonna be in there at
Speaker 1: the start of the game and he's not going to
Speaker 1: carry the ball between the tackles that often. But like
Speaker 1: Gruden comes up with, it's you know, pop passes, screen passes,
Speaker 1: um this Like it's like he breaks out on that
Speaker 1: swing route like every other snap. Yeah, So that's something
Speaker 1: something they have to watch how the Cowboys manage something
Speaker 1: like that, because I don't know that you necessarily want
Speaker 1: to have a linebacker on him all day, as you
Speaker 1: would typically linebackers matching up with running backs. But do
Speaker 1: you think the Cowboys need to consider the possibility of
Speaker 1: taking one of the safeties down or do you take
Speaker 1: another corner and maybe put a corner out there to
Speaker 1: kind of kind of guard against some of that. I
Speaker 1: think that that's why you have fast linebacker so you
Speaker 1: can go, you know and make plays like that and
Speaker 1: not have to, you know, say, well, let's put a
Speaker 1: safety down there, because what you don't want is McLaurin
Speaker 1: or whatever his name is, to go deep like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll handle that kind of stuff with Thompson
Speaker 1: and then you know it's the whole bend, but don't break.
Speaker 1: You saw it during the Giants game a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I mean they would have been they would have been
Speaker 1: stop them to a field goal, hold him a couple
Speaker 1: of times to a turnover on down. So I don't
Speaker 1: think you change it up. I think you use the
Speaker 1: speed that you have on defense to go chase the football.
Speaker 1: I think, and this is in the secret either the
Speaker 1: Eagles secondary I think the world of Malcolm Jenkins, but
Speaker 1: their corners are either hurt or bad and have been
Speaker 1: for most of the last two years. The Cowboys have
Speaker 1: really good corners, Like I think, Cheeto. I don't know
Speaker 1: if y'all saw this. Cheeto ran the fastest recorded speed
Speaker 1: in the NFL over the last two years when he
Speaker 1: chased down Barkley, so you could see it, like yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you were like, wow, twenty five miles an hour.
Speaker 1: I thought it was twenty three, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's I thought it was twenty five minute. Either way,
Speaker 1: that's faster than a school zone. I mean, like, do
Speaker 1: you know it's weird? Tangent but I think and it
Speaker 1: is impressive, but you're like, oh my god, he ran
Speaker 1: twenty five miles an hour, and then I'm in my
Speaker 1: car in a school zone like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: going so slow and Cheeto's running by Yeah exactly. Um,
Speaker 1: but they said Barkley was only going twenty one between
Speaker 1: between Cheeto and Byron. Don't you think you have the
Speaker 1: time up in speed to deal with with that? You know,
Speaker 1: is not a problem on this defense exactly, which is
Speaker 1: why even Xavier, like they can run, what worries me?
Speaker 1: I mean, he is, yeah, hurt, but I well he's
Speaker 1: at practice, he's fine. But um, that's why, like I
Speaker 1: look at Trey Quinn and to the same extent, Chris Thompson,
Speaker 1: because can you and it get Tray Quinn's probably not
Speaker 1: dusting anybody down the field, but just like Cole Beasley,
Speaker 1: he's got that short space separation where it's third and
Speaker 1: six and all of a sudden he's got two yards
Speaker 1: of space on whoever's covering him for a first down.
Speaker 1: Like that's I think that could be frustrating, And the
Speaker 1: same thing goes for Chris Thompson. But I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about the big play potential, and so McLaren win sixty
Speaker 1: nine yards and then their other big play, Vernon Davis
Speaker 1: catches a wheel route from the h back spot and
Speaker 1: like four Philly dbs had a shot at him and
Speaker 1: they were just like, no, we're gonna Keystone cops this
Speaker 1: thing and just let you go to the end zone.
Speaker 1: So I don't see that happening. I mean, it's possible,
Speaker 1: but I think this team rallies to the ball well
Speaker 1: enough that I'm not worried about it, and I think
Speaker 1: the corners have the speed to mitigate that. It's the
Speaker 1: you know, death by a thousand papercuts type of thing.
Speaker 1: I think that's what would worry me. But like I said,
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown played Quinn really well in last year's game.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's take our first final break. When
Speaker 1: we come back, I do want to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about the running game. They only gave up a
Speaker 1: small number of I mean they only gained a small
Speaker 1: number of yards last week twenty eight, to be exact,
Speaker 1: on the ground. I want to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about what that may mean for this week and how
Speaker 1: the Cowboys should match up against them. We'll do that
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the Cowboys versus the Redskins. That that
Speaker 1: game will be played this Sunday. It is a noon
Speaker 1: game Central time. We'll be out in Washington Fort, so
Speaker 1: it makes you stay tuned for that. I had a
Speaker 1: couple of questions where you, David, I guess, let's start
Speaker 1: first with the rushing attack last week. I guess it's
Speaker 1: hard to make assumptions after one week of football, obviously
Speaker 1: in any direction, but the fact that they only had
Speaker 1: twenty eight yards rushing, that to me seems extremely though.
Speaker 1: It is the I guess thirty first at this point,
Speaker 1: there was one team that had less than that last week.
Speaker 1: Was this the function of the game and how the
Speaker 1: game flowed? Was this the function of Darius Guys just
Speaker 1: wasn't getting the job done. Was a situation where you
Speaker 1: saw maybe the offensive line just wasn't opening holes and
Speaker 1: that's why the running game wasn't successful. You definitely can't.
Speaker 1: You can't chalk it up to the floor of the
Speaker 1: game because they jumped out to a seventeen nothing lead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't there. Darius Guys did not look right. That
Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprising since he's having his NCL looked at
Speaker 1: and will probably miss some time. But like the offensive
Speaker 1: line just they got bullied a little bit, and that
Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprising. The Eagles have a really, really good
Speaker 1: defensive line. But it's encouraging because I think the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Cowboys is as good as
Speaker 1: the Eagles, but it's pretty good, and so I think
Speaker 1: that's that should be favorable. Um that, like he I mean,
Speaker 1: guys had no holes for the most part to run through,
Speaker 1: So you know, twenty eight is almost like an aberration.
Speaker 1: Like even bad running teams can typically do a little
Speaker 1: bit better than that, but a bad running back can
Speaker 1: do better than that. Yeah, um, but yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: think there's potential there to limit that. Although I was
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I didn't really mention Adrian Peterson that
Speaker 1: much in the second segment, but I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, he's not gonna he's not gonna hit you
Speaker 1: for sixty five yards like se Quon Barkley. But I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it was just last season he had a
Speaker 1: house call from like ninety two yards away, so he
Speaker 1: can still run. He's still man. Yeah, so that's that's
Speaker 1: something to watch. I think I think it'll look different
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons, like you know, the matchup,
Speaker 1: different running back, etc. So we'll see. All right, here's
Speaker 1: a question from Raymond Garcia. He asked, we'll talk we'll
Speaker 1: be active next week after the lack of a pass
Speaker 1: rush last week, you guys think, I really not that
Speaker 1: he's necessarily going to aid that and make it that
Speaker 1: much better. But do they then make him active just
Speaker 1: to give him another option? I think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they definitely could. I feel like he's better
Speaker 1: than Joe Jackson. And but again, like I said the
Speaker 1: other day, I don't really know whether all is going
Speaker 1: on in there and why this whole thing has just
Speaker 1: been very weird. Yeah, since last year. I don't know
Speaker 1: what exactly is going on him because you see him
Speaker 1: and things seem to find him walking around or whatever.
Speaker 1: But then behind doors, I mean, well, they clearly have
Speaker 1: a problem with him. You don't, and they should because
Speaker 1: if they wanted to announce the inactives an hour, you know,
Speaker 1: like Friday before the game, they would just do it.
Speaker 1: But they don't. They do it ninety minutes before. And
Speaker 1: does it really matter? Does it help the Giants to
Speaker 1: know if Taco is going to be in or out.
Speaker 1: Probably not, but Garrett to Garrett, it does. Ye, So
Speaker 1: don't sit there on Saturday when that you got told
Speaker 1: about it that you're not going to play and then
Speaker 1: tweet it out there like that this is not your news,
Speaker 1: this is team news. But he made it his news.
Speaker 1: I'd be pissed if I was the team too. I
Speaker 1: say this jokingly, but only a little bit. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: we basically did our best to bury him yesterday, and
Speaker 1: I don't. I stand by it. Like it's a bad
Speaker 1: look and it's hard to imagine he's got a long
Speaker 1: term future. But having said all that, they'll probably make
Speaker 1: him acting six days later because that's the type of
Speaker 1: stuff that happens. I mean, And yeah, he'll get a
Speaker 1: sack in terms of like, in terms of rushing the passer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's better than Joe Jackson right now.
Speaker 1: I get you know, Joe Jackson maybe could do more
Speaker 1: for you in terms of special teams tackle end than
Speaker 1: like the whole totality, But in terms of getting out
Speaker 1: there and getting after somebody, I think I'd picked Taco
Speaker 1: over him right now. So maybe, But one thing we
Speaker 1: also realized last week is getting down to your your
Speaker 1: forty six. It's not an easy thing. So just saying
Speaker 1: you want to make him active, that's cool. Who becomes
Speaker 1: a guy that becomes inactive in his place? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's uh four receivers, you know, maybe Tavon Austin.
Speaker 1: Think about what Tavon's role was in the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, he played a little bit there. But but
Speaker 1: I think maybe, as Dave said earlier, we talked about
Speaker 1: maybe Pollard can do some of them, some of those
Speaker 1: swing things. And maybe since it's gonna be probably gonna
Speaker 1: be a hot day noon or you know, one o'clock kickoff,
Speaker 1: they might have more defensive lineman health or active, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean wearing blue jerseys and hot, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Maybe they have nine guys, But the
Speaker 1: thought about that is you probably want an additional defensive
Speaker 1: tackle before more defensive ends, because last week they ran
Speaker 1: with three defensive tackles. If you're worried about the heat,
Speaker 1: bigger guys, Yeah, maybe you're sliding Crawford into play a
Speaker 1: little bit more tackle than than in But if I
Speaker 1: have a tackle that can put in there like another one, yeah,
Speaker 1: not right now. So they only had three tackles coactive
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, Tristan Hills out right. So the question
Speaker 1: would be, is Tristan Hill the guy that they want
Speaker 1: to put back in because they want they want the
Speaker 1: ability to have four guys in the rotation. Ye, honestly
Speaker 1: I would do that. I would put Tristan Hill and
Speaker 1: Tacco and put Joe Jackson down. That's why I would
Speaker 1: do and go with four Roofie, that sounds maybe like
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here like that sounds scary to play the
Speaker 1: game with only four guys got a foot injury and
Speaker 1: I don't guys got ribs and yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard can do something. Mean, Tony Pollard can do
Speaker 1: return stuff for you. I guarant well. I would like
Speaker 1: to think maybe maybe he doesn't have that big of
Speaker 1: a grasp on the playbook, but like Tony Pollard can
Speaker 1: motion from slot to and do a fake jet sweep
Speaker 1: just as well as Tavon Austin Danny, like I would assume.
Speaker 1: So maybe not on one week's notice, but maybe so.
Speaker 1: I mean that's if you have to have seven. I
Speaker 1: know we're talking and actives yet Yeah, we just jumped
Speaker 1: ahead to Friday, right ahead, different question, And he's a
Speaker 1: Taco is a pretty calm guy. But you know the
Speaker 1: other day we started talking about not having divas in
Speaker 1: the offense and how that how much that has helped
Speaker 1: the team. Now, when you look at a guy that
Speaker 1: maybe there's some frame, well, clearly there is some friction
Speaker 1: there between whatever's going on with him and the team.
Speaker 1: Do you see this potentially becoming a problem inside the
Speaker 1: locker room as far as his attitude and what's going
Speaker 1: on around him. No, because and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: And this is something I've learned over the years. And
Speaker 1: this isn't I'm not trying to throw shade at anybody,
Speaker 1: but it's just like the dynamic of a locker room,
Speaker 1: there's always going to be some grumpy guys, whether you're
Speaker 1: not like getting the playing time you think you deserve,
Speaker 1: or you're in a contract year or a problem for
Speaker 1: who Well, yeah, that's well just for the team or
Speaker 1: for problem for Taco, because I think there has been
Speaker 1: a problem for Taco, but well clearly. Yeah. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you start having that attitude walking around with it,
Speaker 1: it starts affecting the people around you. Okay, problem for
Speaker 1: that group that, and that's what boys I don't think.
Speaker 1: So that's what I know. Stronger than that, I can't
Speaker 1: see it affecting the team at all, because there's for
Speaker 1: for however many disgruntled guys there are in the locker room,
Speaker 1: there's ten that are you know, bound up in that
Speaker 1: team culture. And that's why it's so important for Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett to have his leadership counsel and all that. Like,
Speaker 1: if Taco is upset about something, I don't think Tank
Speaker 1: or Jalen or any like, Sorry, what do you want
Speaker 1: us to do about it? You know it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, Nick, you'll probably remember this. I want to
Speaker 1: say it was like maybe mid two thousands, early two
Speaker 1: thousands where the talk around the NFL about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: was they just didn't have leadership, Like that was their
Speaker 1: biggest problem. They didn't have leadership. And this is the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of that. I mean, they got a ton
Speaker 1: of leadership. And the guys that are the leaders in
Speaker 1: that locker room are really strong personalities, and a kind
Speaker 1: of personality is that I think other players respect. So
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about Tank earlier in this show.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I thought the Cowboys needed
Speaker 1: to pay him what they paid him this offseason is
Speaker 1: because of that. Because when he speaks in that locker room,
Speaker 1: people listen, and people do what he's asking them to do.
Speaker 1: And he has a way of not only leading, but
Speaker 1: leading by example on top of his words, right, And
Speaker 1: so I don't think a guy like Taco has the
Speaker 1: kind of leverage in a locker room like that to
Speaker 1: cause problems when you've got a lot of really good
Speaker 1: leaders that that won't allow that to happen. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have that kind of leverage to be able to pull
Speaker 1: people in a different direction or to be able to
Speaker 1: affect the chemistry. I don't think. Did y'all happen to
Speaker 1: watch these sounds from the sideline video that we put out.
Speaker 1: That's funny If you haven't. If you're listening and you haven't,
Speaker 1: you need to go check it out. Tank got that
Speaker 1: fumble from Eli. Big gott a turnover, you know, big play,
Speaker 1: and he comes back to the bench He's like, y'all
Speaker 1: need to wake the hell up, because when I get
Speaker 1: the ball, I want to celebrate, and y'all are acting
Speaker 1: like some whim space and like everybody on the bench
Speaker 1: was like, we thought there was a flag man, we
Speaker 1: thought the play was coming back. And he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: all right, but next time, don't let it happen. I
Speaker 1: just yea, there's there are very strong personalities in that
Speaker 1: locker room that are bound up and yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: see that happening. Ye all right, just all right. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you join us. We're back tomorrow at eleven forty five.
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