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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory podcast. My name is Sean Coleman.

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Speaker 1: Hope wherever you are and wherever you are listening, you

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Speaker 1: are having a great start or a great end to

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Speaker 1: your Tuesday start to your Wednesday. Of course, you can

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Speaker 1: find all the great content from Hammer Territory at Hammer

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Speaker 1: Territory across all forms of social media, part of the

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Speaker 1: Foul Territory family of podcasts, and as always again with

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Speaker 1: me is my podcast partner Steven Tobert at b Underscore

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Speaker 1: outliers On at slash Twitter. Steven, I hate to say this, man,

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to talk with you, but I'm

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Speaker 1: getting to the point where, you know, I always look

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Speaker 1: forward to it, but it also just comes with with

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Speaker 1: a bit of dread because it seems like every time

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Speaker 1: we talk now it's about a disappointing Braves performance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up, Sean, It's been I don't know if

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Speaker 2: me and you are just kind of snake bit at

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Speaker 2: the moment, but it seems like, you know, Brad and Scott,

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Speaker 2: I've always talked about that like Sunday That's Sunday podcast Curse,

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Speaker 2: where it seems like the Braves always lose on Sunday

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Speaker 2: right before they record.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're gonna do something similar right now.

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Speaker 2: We're like, just like these mind numbing losses happened right

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Speaker 2: before you and I record. Yeah, listen, it's not been

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Speaker 2: great the Braves are. You know, they're two and four

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Speaker 2: in their last six. The offense has just completely fallen

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Speaker 2: asleep again. You know, we're gonna get into it obviously

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Speaker 2: with tonight in the last couple of games, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's just not fun. Somebody tweeted it to me tonight

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Speaker 2: and I hadn't really thought about this, but you know,

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Speaker 2: they said to me, do you find this Braves team

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Speaker 2: to be a fun team to watch? And like, I

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Speaker 2: love the Braves. Of course, obviously we cover it and

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Speaker 2: I've done it for years now, but like, I don't

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Speaker 2: know that this team is actually that fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: You know, like they're built to hit homers, but they're

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Speaker 2: not really.

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Speaker 3: Built to do much else.

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Speaker 2: So if they're not hitting homers, like especially offensively, like

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Speaker 2: they don't steal bases, Like they're not like a speed team,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're they're not. They're not like you know,

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Speaker 2: go first to third, hitting triples in the gap and

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Speaker 2: you know, exciting on the basement, like it's kind of

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Speaker 2: a homer or bust offense, and the homers obviously have

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Speaker 2: not been cooming this year, so like, it's actually really

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Speaker 2: not that much fun to watch on a night to

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Speaker 2: night basis, unless you just you know, obviously when Chris

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Speaker 2: Sale Max freed. You know, Ronaldo didn't pitch great tonight,

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Speaker 2: but typically he's done well, you know, outside of watching

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Speaker 2: those guys, which has been a lot of fun. Like

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Speaker 2: the team overall, I would kind of agree with that comment,

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Speaker 2: like it's not the most fun team to watch, at

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Speaker 2: least so far, and you know, we're where we just

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Speaker 2: passed the halfway points, so but yeah, we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: into all of it tonight. But yeah, it's always good

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Speaker 2: to do these with you men.

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Speaker 1: I will counter that just for a second. You're exactly

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Speaker 1: right overall, but we do have our fun moments. For instance,

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Speaker 1: tonight in the second inning, there was a positive there

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Speaker 1: back to back home runs for Austin Riley and Sean Murphy,

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Speaker 1: and then later on in the game, Stephen, we had

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Speaker 1: back to back successful butts from Forrest Wall and Zach Short.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time we saw that in

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Speaker 1: the Braves game. Okay, I'm being a bit facetious, but

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Speaker 1: agreed completely right now. And one of the reasons why,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into this a little bit later on,

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why it's not as fun, especially

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Speaker 1: then they do it again, there's that feeling of dread that, hey,

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Speaker 1: we've been here far too many times before. We've seen

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Speaker 1: again tonight. But the biggest story potentially from tonight, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: is actually the performance of Ronaldo Lopez. Now, don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong, he had a good start, and typically when

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Speaker 1: pitching an excellent game. But we're now starting to see

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Speaker 1: the things that certainly is a takeaway from tonight, Steven,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, listen, we've talked about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean you and I have talked about it probably

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Speaker 2: like I never believe Ronaldolopez was like a one point

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Speaker 2: like find your level type of picture is like a

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Speaker 2: or whatever it was, at some point, we're gonna see regression.

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Speaker 2: And he didn't have a terrible night tonight, like he

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Speaker 3: The big thing tonight with the walks.

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Speaker 2: I mean he gave up four walks back to back outings.

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Speaker 2: He's had four walks. Uh, it's you know what that

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Speaker 3: Up your pitch count. You know, he had a really

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Speaker 2: He threw like thirty pitches in the first and then

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Speaker 2: he just can never get that quick inning to kind

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Speaker 2: get through the fifth obviously. Yeah, listen, it's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: like Rinaldo's. Ronaldo's not supposed to be one of the

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Speaker 2: three best players on this team. Like Ronaldo's supposed to

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Speaker 2: little bit like Ozuna, Like, yeah, Azuna is in a slump,

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Speaker 2: but like they're gonna be in slump, Like They're not

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Speaker 3: And and for right now, for the Braves, if.

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Speaker 2: If Max Freed, Chris saalor Ronald Lopez don't go out

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Speaker 3: You know, with Ronaldo. It is gonna be interesting with

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Speaker 2: Bowman just tweeted out that he's gonna pitch on regular

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Speaker 2: rest again. I am very interested what they do because,

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Speaker 3: You know, how much did they push him?

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Speaker 2: You know, Usually the Braves are just kind of take

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Speaker 2: they'll do. Tonight was just command mostly, But yeah, it

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Speaker 1: Do, absolutely, and so you know, and this is this

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Speaker 1: was to be expected at some point. It was to

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Speaker 1: be expected that especially from Ronaldo Lopez, who's, you know,

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Speaker 1: what he's doing. I'm not saying I'm not sitting here

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Speaker 1: predicting that all of the sudden Ronaldo Lopez is gonna

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Speaker 1: have a season like Bryce Elder did last year. But

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Speaker 1: the point is is that run support has to be

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Speaker 1: more of that three to three and a half year

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Speaker 1: getting to the fun and that's the offense. And I

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Speaker 1: say that sarcastically, and Steven, I'm going to kind of

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Speaker 1: seeing right now, so many stretches of you know, the

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Speaker 1: inability to hit on runs, the inability to struggle. When

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Speaker 1: you really look at this offense from multiple perspectives, you

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Speaker 1: hope at some point they snap out of it and

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Speaker 1: become the best in baseball. But right now there's things

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline. This Brave's offense right now is nearly

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Speaker 1: non existent against right handed pitching, especially with runners in

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Speaker 1: scoring position, bottom five nearly every offensive category metrics. When

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I've talked about this and if you follow

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Speaker 2: me on Twitter, you know, like a one area where

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Speaker 2: I think Alex could have done better is I do

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Speaker 2: And this year has been a big example of that.

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Speaker 2: And listen, when you know, the Braves have especially have

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Speaker 2: three lefties. They have Kelnick, they have Olsen, and they

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Speaker 2: But that's it, and that's you know, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: counting Forrest Wall just because he's Forrest Wall. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Braves need more left handed help. You know, I've

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Speaker 2: need to go get a left handed outfielder to help

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Speaker 2: maybe even platoon that spot. Like they need more left

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Speaker 3: Like that's wild. That's absolutely why. I mean, this was

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that ball that Heviey Oramos hit off of Chavez,

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Speaker 2: been ice cold for like three weeks. Marcelo Zuna has

430
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Speaker 2: been in a huge slump for about about three weeks now.

431
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 2: Ozzy's been in a huge slump, like you know, and

432
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Speaker 2: as soon as those guys come out of it, it

433
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Speaker 2: seems like, you know, Kelnick will go cold or or

434
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Speaker 2: Riley will go cold. Like That's just how it's been

435
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: all year long. It's just been this rotating, you know,

436
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: it's just back and forth of who's hot, who's cold.

437
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Speaker 2: Nobody ever at the same time, I'm it's just been

438
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: very frustrating. It's been very inconsistent, and like you said,

439
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: it's not that surprising that the Bridges are one of

440
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 2: the worst offenses in baseball when you look at it

441
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: from that perspective that you know, at any one time

442
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: they've got maybe two guys two or three guys the

443
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Speaker 2: most going. So yeah, it's gonna be hard to score runs.

444
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Speaker 2: And that's pretty much how they've existed all year long.

445
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Speaker 1: But Steve, when we talked about it before the podcast,

446
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Speaker 1: you know what, while you know, we've ranted and now

447
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,719
Speaker 1: we're just trying, I guess, kind of coping with the

448
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Speaker 1: fact that this is kind of how it is right now.

449
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Speaker 1: I don't want to take away from the fact that

450
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Speaker 1: at any one point we talk about the fact that

451
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Speaker 1: if we can get four or five guys going, we

452
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: can immediately turn back to where we're one of the

453
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Speaker 1: better lineups in baseball. And as if we could do that,

454
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Speaker 1: if we could look at a crystal ball and do that,

455
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: when September or October comes, we're going to be just fine.

456
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Speaker 1: So I don't want people to think that, you know,

457
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Speaker 1: we're just completely giving up on the rest of the season.

458
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm not at all. I don't think you are at all.

459
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 1: But it's just the point that we've got no other choice.

460
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: We got to have our best hitters hitting. But if

461
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Speaker 1: they do, that switch can turn on quite quickly.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, you know, the Braves as we sit

463
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Speaker 2: here today, even with the loss today, the Braves have

464
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Speaker 2: a According to Fangrass, they have a ninety one percent

465
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs. You know, a lot of

466
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Speaker 2: that is because the National League behind them has been

467
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Speaker 2: so mediocre and kind of hovering around five hundred and

468
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 2: the brain I mean, you know, you and I were

469
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Speaker 2: talking before the podcast, like the honest truth, the God's

470
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Speaker 2: honest truth, and people don't want to hear this, and

471
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Speaker 2: I understand that. I understand why people don't want to

472
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Speaker 2: hear it. But the God's honest truth is the Braves

473
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Speaker 2: could pretty much, you know, sleep walk through the second half,

474
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Speaker 2: play like five hundred ball and probably still make the playoffs. Like,

475
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Speaker 2: if we're being honest, like eighty four eighty five wins

476
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: is going to be you know, that's usually what the

477
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Speaker 2: last wild card spot is in terms of the bar

478
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Speaker 2: to make the plays. The Braves could sleep walk the

479
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: rest of the year, even play under five hundred the

480
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: rest of the year, and still probably make the playoffs

481
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Speaker 2: and then get hot in September and win the whole thing.

482
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: Like it sucks that that's baseball now, but that is

483
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: kind of baseball now, Like the regular season just doesn't

484
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: matter that much just because of what I just said,

485
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: like the Braves could play uninspired ball basically all year long,

486
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Speaker 2: get hot in October and whenever and when everything like that, Like,

487
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Speaker 2: you know, that's pretty much like what I just described

488
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 2: is pretty much the twenty twenty three Diamondbacks. Like go

489
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: watch you know, obviously the people that listen to us

490
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: or Diamondbacks fans, but like go go to Baseball Reference

491
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: or something and look at their whole season and just

492
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 2: see how mediocre they were for pretty much the whole year.

493
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Speaker 2: Like they hit little spots of getting hot here and there,

494
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: but they were pretty much mediocre all year. They got

495
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: they you know, they were the last team and they

496
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: snuck into October they got hot, and they made it

497
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Speaker 2: to the World Series, and like that's just kind of

498
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: baseball now.

499
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Speaker 3: And I hate that. I have I railed.

500
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Speaker 2: Against expanded playoffs for the exact reason. I don't want

501
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 2: the regular season to be just completely meaningless. But it

502
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: kind of it's not completely meaningless, but it to a

503
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: certain extent, it doesn't matter that much. Like the Like, again,

504
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: I know people want to hear this, but the Braids

505
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: could sleep walk pretty much the rest of the way,

506
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: just do enough to get in and then get hot

507
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: in October and when everything and they could also sleep

508
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 2: walk the rest of the way and get knocked out

509
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: in the first round. But it's all pretty much gonna

510
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: come down to, you know, as long as you get in,

511
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: how are you playing in October?

512
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Speaker 3: That's really all that matters. Now, So how much does

513
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: any of this really matter? I don't know.

514
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Speaker 2: You know, people will say, well, if they play like this,

515
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere. Well, yeah, I mean that's very true.

516
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 2: If they play like this in October, they're not going anywhere.

517
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: But October is four months away, so a lot a

518
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: lot can happen, So, you know, I do struggle back

519
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: and forth with like, this is really annoying, This is

520
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: really frustrating.

521
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 3: I hate watching this at times.

522
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Speaker 2: And then on the other side, how much does any

523
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Speaker 2: of it really matter? Because the Braves are still well

524
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Speaker 2: above ninety percent chance to make the playoffs. They're almost

525
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Speaker 2: certainly going to be in the playoffs unless they just

526
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Speaker 2: completely collapse, which I don't see happening. Then it just

527
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 2: comes down to how well you play in October. So

528
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Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is, you know, take

529
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Speaker 2: it for what it is. But that's that's pretty much

530
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: the reality, that's kind of where we live now in

531
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four in terms of Major League Baseball.

532
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Speaker 1: So then let's have some fun. Let's get a little

533
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Speaker 1: crazy here, Steven, and I know that you know I

534
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Speaker 1: say this, you know, not tongue in cheek, not with

535
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Speaker 1: a grain of salt. I'm just to the point to where,

536
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: like we mentioned, at any one time many nights, we

537
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: have two of the worst offensive players in terms of

538
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: everyday players in Duval and Rcia right now playing and

539
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: one of our big bats is ice cold. So any

540
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: not out of the week, we have three almost guaranteed outs.

541
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: It feels like so in my opinion, one thing that

542
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: you could do is just, you know it, just the

543
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: lineup a little bit. Against right handed pitching, go Kellnick, Riley, Ozuna, Olsen,

544
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: Murphy and then Ozzy. That's against right handed pitching. Against

545
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: left handed pitching, Kellen, Nick, Ozzy, Ozuna, Olsen, Riley, and

546
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Speaker 1: then Murphy or Darnaut. That could be something you could do,

547
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: maybe to to you know, get Riley back up at

548
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Speaker 1: the top of the order with his back going. You

549
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: could change up the lineup a little bit. But here's something,

550
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: maybe even a bit crazier On Monday, former Brave Eddie

551
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: Rosario was designated for assignment from the Washington Nationals. On Tuesday,

552
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: former Marlin shortstop Tim Anderson was designated for assignment, you know,

553
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Speaker 1: by the Marlins. I understand that both of those players

554
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: have had a significant track record recently of themselves being

555
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Speaker 1: among the best or the worst offensive players in baseball.

556
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Speaker 1: But I also know that the Braves have a very

557
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Speaker 1: good track record of helping players who formerly were highly

558
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Speaker 1: productive hitters return to some form of being productive again.

559
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Speaker 1: I'm to the point myself, Stephen, to where I'm open

560
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: to anything. So if the Braves wanted to give Rosario

561
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Speaker 1: and Anderson a chance, you can't do much worse than

562
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: you already have. I'm just trying to think of outside

563
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: the box opportunities that can make things better. None of

564
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: it may make sense, but at this point, I think

565
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: anything could potentially be better than a lot of what

566
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Speaker 1: we're rolling out there most nights.

567
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, listen, I tweeted this. Eddie Rosario has

568
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: been absolutely terrible this year, and I have very very

569
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: little interest in and Eddie Rosario being a Brave again

570
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Speaker 2: just because of how bad he's been.

571
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Speaker 3: But I also have very little interest in forest Wall,

572
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: like being in Atlanta, brit Like.

573
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Speaker 2: I you know, if you said, would you rather forest

574
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Speaker 2: Wall get this at bat? Or would you rather Eddi

575
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: Rizzario get this at bat? I would probably just run

576
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: away and not answer that question at all because I

577
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: would prefer neither one of them. But you know, if

578
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Speaker 2: you said Eddie Rosario over forest Wall, I'm not.

579
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Speaker 3: Going to argue too much, Like, yeah, fine, go for it.

580
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we are absolutely to the throw,

581
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: you know, throw crap against the wall and see what

582
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: sticks portion of the year with the injuries, and it's

583
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: still you know, the trade.

584
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: Season hasn't fully picked up yet.

585
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you want to grab Rosario and an

586
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: option force Wall and see if you can strike lightning

587
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: in a bottle.

588
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, go for it. I'm not going to

589
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: argue too much.

590
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: It's not like you're replacing somebody of you know, elite

591
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: talent on the roster. The roster is as depleted of

592
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: talent as it's been probably since the rebuild years. At

593
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Speaker 2: the moment, I mean, especially at the level that some

594
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: of the guys are playing like, it feels it feels

595
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Speaker 2: like a pretty I don't know, I'm not gonna say

596
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: talent less because that's that's pretty strong, but it feels

597
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: there's there is a market drop in talent at the

598
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: moment on the Bridge roster. So yeah, listen, if they

599
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Speaker 2: want to try Eddie Rosario and say, hey, he's probably

600
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: at least better than Forest Wall, I'm not going to

601
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: argue because that's probably true, and you know, but if

602
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: they don't want to do it, I'm also not gonna

603
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: be like, hey, why didn't you sign Eddie Rizzario? You

604
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: know he could save the season, Like I don't. I'm

605
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: not that's probably crazy as well. So whatever they want

606
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: to do there, that's fine. I would hope at some

607
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: point they would actually go out and acquire like legitimate.

608
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Speaker 3: Upgrades in some of these spots, like.

609
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: We can't keep running Luke Williams and Forest Wall and

610
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 2: Adam de Wall and even as good as Loriano is,

611
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: like I was thinking about this today, like the fact

612
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: that Ramone Loriano has been hurt for so long has

613
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: been a real detriment to the team.

614
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: And if your team is to.

615
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: The point where Ramone Loriano being hurts you this bad,

616
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: then you're in real trouble. Like Ramone Loriano missing this

617
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: much time and it's only been like five games, but

618
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: him missing five games should not be as detrimental to

619
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: your lineup as it has currently been for the Braves.

620
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: And if it is, then that means you're in a

621
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: rough spot. And the Braves are just in a rough spot.

622
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: They need more talent, especially in the outfield.

623
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Speaker 3: We've covered that nauseum.

624
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, what the hell if you want

625
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: to go get at Errisorio and see if you can

626
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: strike lightning in a bottle and he gets hot for

627
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: a month, I'm not gonna argue because, like you said,

628
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: it can't be much worse at the moment.

629
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you know what I'm suggesting, you know, going

630
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: to get a Eddie Rosario or a Tim Anderson or

631
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Speaker 1: something like that. I'm not sitting here saying that those

632
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: should be the moves that you make instead of trades

633
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: to be able to try to get this line up good.

634
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that right now, when when you know

635
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: you're still waiting for you know, maybe there to be

636
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: more teams to choose from when it comes to trades,

637
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: try something to get things going. You know, that's to

638
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: the point that we're at. But you know of a

639
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: more immediate, you know, conversation worthiness, I guess you could say,

640
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: is the fact that the Braves now they've lost this

641
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: first game of the series against the Giants, and now

642
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: I think that the rest of this homestand gets real critical.

643
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Speaker 1: And the reason why that is is because I definitely

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Speaker 1: think that the Braves need to find some way to

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Speaker 1: be able to win this series and then hopefully at

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Speaker 1: the very least figure out some way to have a

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Speaker 1: winning record for the rest of this home stand, because

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Speaker 1: tonight probably was the easiest starter that the Braves were

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Speaker 1: gonna face bird Song for the rest of this homestand

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Speaker 1: he probably is going to be the easiest starter that

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Speaker 1: the Braves are gonna face. The Braves themselves are gonna

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Speaker 1: throw Chris Sale and then Charlie Morton in the final

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Speaker 1: two games of the series against the Giants, and they're

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Speaker 1: likely going to have Max Breed, Spencer Schwellenbach as well

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Speaker 1: as Ronaldo Lopez going into three games against the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned, Lopez will be making his next start

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. But the thing is is that I believe

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on the mound for the Giants, you've got Jordan Hicks,

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Speaker 1: who's had a pretty good season as a starter for

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Speaker 1: the Giants. You've got Logan Webb, who's been among the

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Speaker 1: best pitchers in baseball over the past few years, going

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday for the Giants, and then that Philadelphia series.

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Speaker 1: I haven't exactly seen the probables as of yet, but

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Speaker 1: I feel competent in saying that you're gonna least see

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Speaker 1: three of the four of Zach Wheeler, Aaron Nola, Christopher

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Speaker 1: Sanchez and Rangers Swarrez, who have been the best starting

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Speaker 1: staff in baseball all season long. So the point that

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Speaker 1: I'm getting at is, Steven, is that one thing that

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Speaker 1: stands out. We've talked all season long about how the

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Speaker 1: saving grace is kind of been the Braves typically are

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Speaker 1: going to have the you know, better, better side of

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Speaker 1: the starting pitching matchup for the rest of this homestand

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Speaker 1: that's not going to be the case. So this offense

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Speaker 1: has to figure out something quickly or we may not

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Speaker 1: necessarily be able to take as much advantage of this

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Speaker 1: homestand as we hope we can.

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Speaker 2: No. I mean, listen, again, the big thing that's that's

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Speaker 2: going to be decided this weekend, if it goes poorly.

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Speaker 2: Is if you come out and get swept by Philadelphia, say,

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Speaker 2: then you really are probably just waving by to the.

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Speaker 3: Division at that point.

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Speaker 2: Like that's the only part of this week that into

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Speaker 2: you know, if you you know, even if you go.

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Speaker 3: Win two of three, it's still very much up in

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Speaker 3: the air.

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Speaker 2: But if like you go get swept and now you're

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Speaker 2: like ten eleven games back or twelve games back or

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, and you have three less head to

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Speaker 2: head matchups than you did before the series started, then yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're now you're in truly mirror. You know, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: take a miracle to win the division. Other than that, though,

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Speaker 2: like I said, you know, yeah, the pitching matchups for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the week are not great. You know,

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Speaker 2: we're getting the Giants two best starters the next two

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Speaker 2: days and then probably three of the best starters for

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Speaker 2: Philly the three games after that. But listen, the Braves

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Speaker 2: offense hasn't done anything against bad starters. I mean, tonight,

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Speaker 2: the Braves had a rookie starter who had a five

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Speaker 2: r a on the mountain scored two runs off of him.

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Speaker 2: So who knows, maybe good starters, you know, the Braves

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Speaker 2: just beat Paul Skins.

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Speaker 3: The other day.

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Speaker 2: Now they did it by, you know, winning two to one,

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Speaker 2: and one of the runs was the free runner that

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Speaker 2: you get an extra innings, So it basically took a

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Speaker 2: great pitching matchup for Max. But I mean that's pretty

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Speaker 2: much how the Braids win these days. Is you know,

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Speaker 2: a starter goes out and throws a great game to

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Speaker 2: bullpen is you know, perfect, and they squeak by, you know,

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Speaker 2: by the skin of their teeth and until this offense

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Speaker 2: wakes up. That's how they're gonna have to win. And

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Speaker 2: so yeah, you know, they need Sale to be good tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: They need Max to be good on Friday. You know,

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Speaker 2: if Charlie wants to have another strong start, he had

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Speaker 2: a really good start his last outing. He's been kind

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Speaker 2: of doing this one good, one bad, one good, one bad,

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Speaker 2: so you know, if you look at the pattern, it's

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Speaker 2: not gonna be his best start. But who knows, maybe

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Speaker 2: he breaks the streak and has two in a row

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Speaker 2: that are pretty good. But yeah, I mean, right now,

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Speaker 2: the best thing you can hope for for if you're

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Speaker 2: a Braves fan is a really really good start out

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Speaker 2: of one of your starters, a perfect doubt from the

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Speaker 2: bullpen and then hopefully the two or three runs the

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Speaker 2: Brave squeak across is enough to win the game. That's

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Speaker 2: pretty much been the only way they win games for

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Speaker 2: the last two months. Really is that formula. So maybe

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Speaker 2: it'll work, Maybe the offense will actually wake up at

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Speaker 2: some point. I'm not really holding my breath for that anymore.

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Speaker 3: This is, you know, for the for the time being,

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Speaker 3: this is who they are.

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Speaker 2: This is just they're a team that scores like three

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Speaker 2: runs a game, and on good pitching days that's enough.

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Speaker 2: On bad pitching days, it's not enough. And and that's

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Speaker 2: how it's gonna be until until the offense wakes up

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so you know again, don't don't don't like

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Speaker 1: to be negative, just you know, being realistic in terms

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Speaker 1: and honest in terms of where we are right now.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, hey, you know what, it's the

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Speaker 1: it's the week of the year where everybody enjoys shooting

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Speaker 1: off fireworks and I hope everybody gets to enjoy seeing

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Speaker 1: a good fireworks show at some point in time this week.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Braves offense will follow suit. Again, I'm not

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Speaker 1: too confident in saying that, but maybe we will see

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Speaker 1: it happen Steven as we wrap up this edition of

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Speaker 1: the hare A Territory podcast, and Steven and I will

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Speaker 1: be back with you again tomorrow night. Anything else you'd

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Speaker 1: like to add going into the second game of the

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Speaker 1: series against the Giants tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: No, listen, they need Chris Sill to be good. They

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Speaker 2: need them to probably pitch six to seven innings one

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Speaker 2: or two runs, and then the bullpen come out and

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Speaker 2: close it down and hopefully the you know, the three

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Speaker 2: runs the Braves score inevitably will be enough to win

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Speaker 2: the game. But yeah, that's that's my insight for tomorrow's game.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're here to make it happen and be nice

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and keep keep the keep the early

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Speaker 1: success going. You know, maybe the Braves can put together

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Speaker 1: back to back games in which they could have early

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Speaker 1: offense and then have a little bit more offense late

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Speaker 1: in the game as well. But for Steven Tolver to

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Speaker 1: be underscore outliers on Twitter, myself at stats sec on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: slash x at Hammer Territory, across all forms of social media,

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Speaker 1: and part of the Foul Territory family of podcasts, it's

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Speaker 1: been a pleasure being with you. Go braves, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you again soon here on the Hammer Territory podcast