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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are.

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Speaker 2: Hot, yeller, and welcome to another episode of the Blackouts podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Rod, joined us always by my co

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Speaker 2: host Karen, and we're alive on a Saturday, ready to

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Speaker 2: do some feedback. It's amazing we're still here. Can't stop

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Speaker 2: using it, okay. And also, just before we get started,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to say thank you to a lot of

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Speaker 2: the fans. I made a joke on my like, Facebook

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Speaker 2: I just want to allow people the space to say

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Speaker 2: exactly how thankful they are for me and everything that

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Speaker 2: I'm here welcome and yet you're welcome. And I've made

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Speaker 2: that status before just as a joke, but these are sweet,

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Speaker 2: has their own negative self doubt shit, everybody has their

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Speaker 2: own like voices in their head. You got your own

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Speaker 2: doing this show for this long. You got the people

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Speaker 2: that listen, but it seemed like they hate you, but

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Speaker 2: they keep listening. But it seems like the hatred.

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Speaker 1: They actually shout atter y'all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shout after them, you know, and so sometimes you

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the spirit of this episode we

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, also, it is a place for

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Speaker 2: the wind. I don't see it that way, and that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Through this process, and you know, sometimes I forget that

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Speaker 2: this is an outlet for that, you know, because all

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Speaker 2: criticism doesn't have to be critical all, you know, the

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Speaker 2: truth doesn't have to be mean things like come.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people need to learn that fact right there.

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Speaker 1: The truth does not have to be mean. The truth

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Speaker 2: Some of you'all motherfuckers just nasty, right, and so uh,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that y'all have let us cultivate this space

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Speaker 2: so humble to be part of you know, uh, for

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Speaker 2: uh yeah, Black Friday Sales is still going on. It

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the people sign it up, and shout

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so don't forget. You don't have to use PayPal.

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Speaker 2: You can use Stripe if you prefer. Also, don't forget.

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Speaker 2: Uh I should have put this in the email to

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Speaker 2: the people. But if you get an error that says

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Speaker 2: the unofficial sport bullbarar Extreme and it's time to do feedback.

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Speaker 2: Feedback is where we talk about the things you had

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Speaker 2: time out to donuts. Donate. We appreciate donate donuts whatever. Okay,

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Speaker 2: donuting for you. All right, let's talk about these comments.

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Speaker 2: Episode twenty four to forty nine, The Best of Christmas

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Speaker 2: with Rod, so a lot of people enjoyed, got a

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Speaker 2: Eve says in the movie Demolition Man, all the restaurants

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Speaker 2: So don't give up, hope. I mean, it's still a

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Speaker 2: it's just how I feel. It's just the truth. Ms.

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Speaker 1: Go Arby did yo right back to back to John.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were kind of close together. It was the

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Speaker 2: have been that girl for a lot of people. And

430
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: it reminded me of somebody else thinking about Oh it

431
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: were just reminded me back in the day, we had

432
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 2: so many women that dressed similar to MC light like,

433
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 2: there were so many you know, roxyne Chante, the Queen

434
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Latifa mony, Love Lady of Rage the Brad Like over

435
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: the years, we had so many and to a point

436
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: where you almost in a way, I can almost see

437
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: what women are doing today as a correction and a

438
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: rebellion almost against that, you know what I mean, Like

439
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: because a lot of those women had to really perform

440
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: what we would term as masculinity to make it. It

441
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: was a lot of like, I'll kill you as hard

442
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: as these niggas kill you. I'll fuck you up. You know,

443
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 2: I robbed your ass and you know, and that's no,

444
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that, But it was also that feeling

445
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: of like, well, that's how you gotta be, you know

446
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like like you gotta be you gotta

447
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: be the toughest woman in the crew because you in

448
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: the crew with the hardest dudes. And it wasn't until

449
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: like look him, Foxy Brown and Eve that I think

450
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: that changed. Yeah, And now I don't know that it'll

451
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: ever go back or find that one hundred fifty fifty balance.

452
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: Right, And even if it doesn't, it's now people can

453
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: go directly to their audience. So she would survive. It's like,

454
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: would she be like a mainstream star. That's a whole

455
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: other story, but when she's the vibe. Yeah, she would

456
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: find her fan base because now you don't have to

457
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: go through people. You can go directly to your fans now,

458
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: like like you don't have to go through these other avenues.

459
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: You don't have to have men approval, you don't have

460
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: to have you know, the labels approval or anything like that.

461
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: You can basically be like this is me, this is

462
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: who I am, and people will find you and people

463
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: will fuck with you.

464
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like you know, because yeah, some one did.

465
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: Just now they brought up Rhapsody, and it made me think, like,

466
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: it's weird that there's just one Rhapsody because it used

467
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: to be the other way around. I remember how much

468
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: Little Kim stood out because it was like, oh, it

469
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: ain't nobody like Little Kim. And then eventually, you know,

470
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: others followed suit or you just saw those other women

471
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: like her get a chance, and then it felt like, oh, okay,

472
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: the market has you know, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

473
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: ten women like this. But for a while it was like,

474
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: you know, you was the only one. And now I

475
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: think Rhapsody is to go to only quote unquote only

476
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: one for a lot of people to be like, Okay,

477
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: this is the one that doesn't have.

478
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: To dress like that, right, So that goes to tell

479
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: you there's no diversity. And I don't mean diversity as

480
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: far as like there's not enough people dressing like her.

481
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Poe results on the website, Like I said, yes,

482
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: even do you think she could have made it in

483
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: enrapt to Gate today? Yes, even if she still dressed conservatively. Yes,

484
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: but only if she dressed provocatively or no. U sixty

485
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: two percent say yes, even if she still dressed conservatively.

486
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with the yess.

487
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think so too. I'm not you know,

488
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 2: that's not a knock on her opinions, her opinions or opinion,

489
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: and she probably know better than all of us because

490
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: we not We weren't living in her shoes. And I

491
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: don't know how she how comfortable she would have felt

492
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: in this era, but I think she had the talent,

493
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: the skills, and unique voice to make it. And I

494
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: don't think. I think a lot of things that are

495
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: sex appeal and sexy aren't always just whether you're wearing

496
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: certain clothes or not. I know a lot of people

497
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: that thought mc light was sexy, you know, men and women,

498
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't know that. Uh, you know,

499
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: I think she would have just found a different way.

500
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know if the industry would

501
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: have understood. But now you don't kind of have to

502
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: go through the industry, you make a splash on your own.

503
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: You can kind of go around the gatekeepers in some extent.

504
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that bothers the gatekeepers because now they can't

505
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: monitor and get people locked up in all these deals

506
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: and take a lot of their money. People are like, Nope,

507
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: I might not be a bazillionaire, but I got enough

508
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: money to make a living off of my fans. Uh.

509
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: Yes, but only if she dressed provocatively. That's twelve percent

510
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: and then no, twenty six percent things. She wouldn't have

511
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: made it today. So we got some comments. Trey says, oh, light,

512
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: would it definitely make it because she would come with

513
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: the lyrics and her powerful voice or overshadow the superficial

514
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: shit of the music industry. I feel like she wouldn't

515
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: have to dress a certain way, but I do feel

516
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: she would definitely have to have the right production with

517
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: her powerful voice. If the music is though, all that

518
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: other shit won't matter as much. Thanks y'all, Trey, Yeah,

519
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: I can see that, you know, yeah, I can see that.

520
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: I can see that. I would wonder how the access

521
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: to things like production and stuff is done and promotion

522
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: in the industry, uh, because it does seem like there's

523
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: a machine that puts people on a certain path and

524
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: it's like, yo, you gotta do this, this, this, and this,

525
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: like if you want to make it. And there are

526
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: you know, artists out there that don't fit those kind

527
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: of stereotypes, but it seemed like they keep getting pushed

528
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: to the margins or like they become like the social

529
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: media act or the person you bring up to to

530
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: prove that, you know, to prove a point. But but

531
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: but people aren't always supportive.

532
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's funny though, because it's almost like he says,

533
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: it's almost like the mainstream people lie.

534
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

535
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: The reason why I said this is because a lot

536
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: of people that buy and purchase and they push these

537
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: to us some of the same people that want the diversity.

538
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: Some of the same people say it don't matter. But

539
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: they are also some of the same people when they

540
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: when when it when it when it when it is

541
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: it cut and paste, rejected, rejected. It's like, hey, y'all,

542
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: this is something different nah and and and you know,

543
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: people have kind of always been like that. It's almost

544
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: like you have to establish yourself before people be like okay,

545
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: you know, because everybody love outcast now. But I was

546
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: old enough to remember when they was like them niggas

547
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: from the South, rapping bitch what And they used to

548
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: clown and be like, what the fuck is this? Every

549
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: time y'all come out with another album, it's some new shit.

550
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ever heard of Itfore, what the fuck they owned?

551
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: But after they became established and people realized they weren't

552
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: going nowhere, everybody's like, oh okay, and so you could

553
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: still make it, but you have to go through that

554
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: process of everybody rejecting you, and under truth be told,

555
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: people might reject you publicly, but rock your shit privately,

556
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: because you know, you let them. Them niggas down in

557
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: Florida tell you a lot of their music up Niggas

558
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: and New York rock that shit like they loved it.

559
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: They would go out that the ship was set, the

560
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: shit would bang. But you talk to them publicly, I

561
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: don't fuck with that shit. But when you're paying the club,

562
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: y'all shack y'ally, that's right, thank you, Luke, because Luke

563
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: has done interviews and that's what he was saying. He

564
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he was like, I should came out,

565
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: would come up there and they would love it too.

566
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: But you know, when it comes to the sales and

567
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: all that shit, it would be a whole nother story.

568
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: So it's like you, it's almost like people force you

569
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: to go through this ridiculous hazing process before they got like, okay,

570
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna be around, so I guess.

571
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: Will accept you, right, And I'm sure it's even harder

572
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: on women, you know. I agree, And uh, you know,

573
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this the other day. We don't

574
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: really have a counter example for elder statesmen, uh in

575
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: music getting older that are like elder We don't have

576
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: elder states women of rap like we have a few. Obviously,

577
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: there's not a lot. You know, we have a handful

578
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: of men that have managed to stand the test of

579
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: time even if they stopped making music. And maybe you

580
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: see my verses and stuff, you know, but like making

581
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: new music, not a lot, nas Jay. I'm sure there's

582
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: a couple others that are getting older than I'm thinking,

583
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: but not a lot. Not a lot. And yet I

584
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 2: mean ship to give them. In all fairness, Kanye at

585
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: this point.

586
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: Because he've been around a long time.

587
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: In a fair him too, but not a lot of

588
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: elder statesmen and hip hop and definitely not a lot

589
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: that's trying to talk about something. And I'm sure I'm

590
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 2: leaving something out ghost face, you know some of it.

591
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: But uh man, I can't think of many women you

592
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: know like that. We're like, yo, this person's forty five,

593
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: they're fifty, they're putting out a new album. We get less.

594
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of them have actually stopped. Majority

595
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: of them.

596
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: He put out a new album like a year ago. Yeah,

597
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: it's rare for them to put out new It's like

598
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: women kind of like NFL players. So it's just like,

599
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: all right, well, I'm thirty five. I played too long.

600
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm out, you know, Candas says Hey Rod and Karen

601
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: regard mc light, I don't think she would make it today.

602
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: Her content be considered not sexual enough, not hood ratchet enough,

603
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: not to mention. People don't like when women are to

604
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: lyrical these days. There's a reason why Meg and Stallion,

605
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: Cardi By and Sweety's are popular as opposed to Raap City,

606
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: No Name, et cetera. Sex is always so, and it's

607
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: more even more true today. The only song I can

608
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: see getting traction for MC light today is Roughneck, and

609
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: that would need to be her lead single to even

610
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: stand a chance. Yeah, I mean, technically that's kind of

611
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: what happened back then, although I want to say she

612
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: had Georgie Porgie too. If I'm not mistaken, let me

613
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: look that up and make sure I'm saying the right thing.

614
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, I could see that. I mean, I guess

615
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: we have no way of knowing obviously, because uh yeah, yeah,

616
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: she did make that poor Georgie. I guess we have

617
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: no way of knowing. And maybe it's just me, but

618
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 2: I always thought she was so cute, like even what

619
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: the fucking and like, I feel like there's a sex

620
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: appeal there that's not it's not overtly sexual, but it's

621
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: there's a sexual pill too that like that that that

622
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: type of woman too. It just maybe it come off different.

623
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, and like I said, also, U she would

624
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: find her audience and she would be just fine. Like honestly,

625
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, with the Internet and all this that stuff,

626
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't around back in the day, you know, so

627
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: you can have it's a lot of artists that are

628
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: kind of underground we don't know nothing about, but they

629
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: are making tons of money, they traveling, they you know,

630
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: we but the general public might not know who they are.

631
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think also with Emclight, the thing is she

632
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: was she was very lyrical, lyrical, but also a lot

633
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: of her songs are about just being an EMC and

634
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: that's not a genre today that I agree with that

635
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: that's not a thing today men, but none of the

636
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: I don't know that. Maybe Rhapsody No Name doesn't even

637
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 2: really just do I'm an MC. I'm just rapping here

638
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: as on bars. Y'all ain't ready for these fucking bars.

639
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: This ain't about no empowerment, This ain't about no like

640
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: I'm the baddest bitch and I'm gonna take no money.

641
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: This is just like, you know, like Bahamaedia type shit

642
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: that I don't think anybody's doing right now. So it's

643
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: definitely a lane for that. Similarly, it's pretty interesting people

644
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: forget about rappers like Missy Elliot. She's very talented, unique

645
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: and made a wide range of music. Despite this, I'm

646
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: not sure she would make it today either. She's a

647
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: heavy set woman, doesn't really dress provocatively. Lizzo is a

648
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: bigger woman too, but even she's overtly sexual, and I

649
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: don't think she's as big as her peers. There's a

650
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: certain well I don't know about that sales. Shit, I

651
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: think Lizzo is a person that probably is you know,

652
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: I could probably look up the sales. But I'm pretty

653
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 2: sure she's selling really well because she crossed is over

654
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: into pop and and kind of whiteness, not on not

655
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: saying she does it like that makes her less black

656
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: or anything negative like that, but yeah, she moves units. Yeah,

657
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure like she Yeah, I'm pretty sure she

658
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: was putting outs on the biggest hits in the world

659
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: when she and then she just has to put an

660
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: album out.

661
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: Since yeah, yeah, she's making the money out of that.

662
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would I would say that she is big,

663
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: but it's uh, but it has to suck because so

664
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: much of her is so much of everything about Lizo

665
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: is like, but let's talk about her, wait, let's talk

666
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: about let's talk about her body, let's talk about and

667
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: so that you know, that is a discussion that even

668
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: Missy didn't have to go through, you know, And maybe

669
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: it's because a lot of her work was behind the scenes,

670
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: and a lot of her what do you call a

671
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: lot of her image was artistic in a way where

672
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: it was baggy clothes, big super outfits and all that shit.

673
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: But Missy was rapping about fucking a lot.

674
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah she was. She's rapping about a lot of different

675
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: ship And the thing is, Missy ended up getting sick.

676
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: And I do think if Missy hadn't ended up getting sick,

677
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: she would have continued to I don't think it would

678
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: have been a break in her career like that.

679
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so but yeah, I'm on her, I'm on Lizzo's wiki,

680
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: and it was like her. She got to a fourth

681
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: on the in the US album charts in twenty nineteen,

682
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: so that's pretty big. She certified platinum gold, and I

683
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: don't know what MC platinum means, but uh so she

684
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: I mean that ship was pretty big, pretty huge. Maybe

685
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: I don't see a comparison. I wish they had that

686
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: on here. Well I can see if uh uh if

687
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 2: they if other people read similar similar point places. But yes,

688
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, Megan the Stallion looks like, let's see,

689
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: that's compilation album? What is just albums? Studio album? She

690
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: was number two so Lizo four, you know, Megan two,

691
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: that's not I mean, I don't know, I don't think

692
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: it's I think she's close. I put it like this,

693
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: It's not some distance second for Lizo in my opinion.

694
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. That and you know how many people put out

695
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: shit and they don't ever get in no single digits

696
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: for their albums doing all their whole careers.

697
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely absolutely, But I think this I was just

698
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: saying what this person saying, she was kind of like

699
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: not as big as these other women. I'm not sure

700
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: it's that far off, Like that is all I'm saying.

701
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: If it's like there's you know, like she's mentioned Doja

702
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: and Cardi, you know, so, uh, there's a reason all

703
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: these ladies have a similar look. Maybe they had to,

704
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: many had to achieve it through surgeries. Music aside, coy

705
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: Er Ray often gets made fun of for being too skinny,

706
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: a tomboy, and even speculations she's a lesbian due to

707
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: her look. Similar. Again, I do not think Lauren Hill

708
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: will be as popular today. Sounds like duop what could

709
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: bensidered judgmental, misogynistic and preachy.

710
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: Lol.

711
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sure, I was listening to to Daylight

712
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: so today before the show started, all them niggas was

713
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: like that, I have no idea why it's stuck to

714
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: Laurence Hill, but I think it's because a lot of

715
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: people get off and really holding women's feet to the

716
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: fire in a way they don't hold men's feet to

717
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: the fire like they like had a whole part of

718
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: possible news wrapped about how women put on some clothes

719
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: to stop being hose and go home. And I still

720
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: remember trialcoll Quest. One of the lines was, ladies, make

721
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: a form on your sexual drive devoted to your lover

722
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: and make it thrive, essentially saying like, don't be fucking people,

723
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: you know Asid Bell by Outcast, you know, with my

724
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: favorite group of all time, the best grootball all time

725
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: in my opinion. And yet still, you know, some of

726
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: that shit was kind of fucked up in the you know,

727
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: as far as like the statement that they're saying. But

728
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 2: today we wouldn't hold that against outcasts in the way

729
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: that we hold that against Lawrence Hill, which I find

730
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: to be kind of weird because to me, I'm like,

731
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: either everybody should get a pass for that time, right,

732
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: you know, whether there was well intentioned misogyny or whatever,

733
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: the fuck just everybody gets a past or we or

734
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: everybody gets quote unquote.

735
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: Camirass, but everybody want to ally cart that bullshit according

736
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: to they liked them or not, And I'm not here

737
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: for that.

738
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: I think the only raptresses who would have a career

739
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: to they are Little call Foxy, Trina and maybe Kaya.

740
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: But that that's what's popular today. Y'all could definitely see

741
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: what you're saying because they was rapping about this shit.

742
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: They are really the four mothers of a lot of

743
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: this shit with in the day since why was mentioned,

744
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: I found a whole tobacco ridiculous. Megan Cardi went the

745
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: first to make a song like that. Did we all

746
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: forget kais my neck in my back? How many licks

747
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: by Little cam Train this whole catalog? From what I

748
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: remember know Man made them make these songs. There was

749
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: a flip on how male rappers constantly spoke about sex

750
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: for male pleasure alone. Same for Meg's strong thighs. Did

751
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: everyone forget Uncle Luke Tolave Crue nineties Miami Base Atlanta,

752
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: New Orleans Bounce era. Many women have been torking and

753
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: dropping it low for decades. None of this is new.

754
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel like it's I'm in bizarre world. Yeah, yeah,

755
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: I feel you. And it was great marketing, honestly for

756
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: them to for people to be uptight about it, and

757
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: then for Cardy and Meg especially Carti to basically troll them.

758
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: I thought that was brilliant. And that's what made that

759
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: shit even a bigger hit is because they eventually had

760
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: like congress people and shit talk and shit and it's like, oh,

761
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: thanks for the free publicity.

762
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: Right now those people going to go and click the

763
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: plays that shit just to see what the fuck you

764
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: complaining about.

765
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: It's why It's why I really like little nas X

766
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: because he just he knows these people gonna get mad

767
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: and he just goes fine. The control Oh yeah, I forgot.

768
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: It.

769
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: Is kind of odd how more sexual rap ladies are

770
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: considered empowering and talk to take control the sexuality as

771
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: well as being celebrated. Why it's being explicitly sexual made

772
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: to be the only way for women to control our sexuality.

773
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: Yet if you're the opposite, you're considered to proved. What

774
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: about those in the middle. It's never all of it,

775
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: which once again explains why your megs are stars and

776
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: others are equalist who are equalist, talented and overlooked them,

777
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: not championed as a woman. I feel that there's an

778
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: oversaturation of sex when it comes to women rappers, especially

779
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: since there's nothing counting it in the mainstream. Well, I

780
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: think we may be living through a correction to that

781
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: time we grew up where like I said, I remember

782
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: growing up and all the women that were rapping, it

783
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: was you need to dress down, cover your body and

784
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: rap almost like a dude with rap, but not about

785
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: sex and shit. You need to prove your lyricists. You

786
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: need to prove you guys, you're an EMC. And you

787
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: know the men can rap about fucking and sucking and

788
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: being out here all night and having holes and shit,

789
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: but you are not allowed to be Like the whole

790
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: has no voice in this culture.

791
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: Right, And that's why Little Kill was so revolutionary. A

792
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: lot of people underestimate at the time. She was like,

793
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: here's my ass, here's my titties. You know, I don't

794
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: want dick to I eat my puss, it right, and

795
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: fuck out niggas, you know, Like that was her whole thing,

796
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Like you gonna get this body in, you gonna get

797
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: these bars, bitch.

798
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: Cause a lot of the men they were dealing with

799
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: at the time, they were their contemporaries, whether they controlled

800
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: their careers or not. A lot of those men they

801
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: were dealing with at the time saw it as a

802
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: negative for women to be sexually provocative or promiscuous any

803
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: of this stuff. And I mean when you look around

804
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: at like ice Cube could not bring yo Yo out

805
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 2: and co sign her unless yo Yo presented a certain way.

806
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: And if Yoyo was out here saying like, yeah, I'm

807
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: I'm in the fucking and second and all this type

808
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: of shit, ICEQ wint a co signeder because he's been

809
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 2: telling the whole world like, nah, good women don't do that,

810
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: and I will fuck these holes, but I will never

811
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: you know, give them a whole bunch of positive praise

812
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: and shit. And I think a lot of women felt

813
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: fell into that that same lane. And then also I

814
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: think it took time for people to get the confidence

815
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: to do all that shit. You know, I really love

816
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 2: how you never see the older women from hip hop

817
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: shitting on the young women, Like I think that's really

818
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: fucking dope, because the men do that shit all the time.

819
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: Like everything is motherfucking whack.

820
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an insult, Like it's an insult that young

821
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: niggas is wrapped, you know, And I'm like, they're just

822
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: carrying on the tradition in the legacy and doing it

823
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: their own way. But yeah, I think it's really kind

824
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: of dope to see it develop. And I think we'll see,

825
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: in my opinion, we'll see a pendulum shift backwards at

826
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: some point too, because I do hear that argument that

827
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: to a lot of women they feel like they don't

828
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: have a voice right now because everything is so sexual,

829
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: everything is so torquing and this, that and the other,

830
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, so somebody's gonna end up creating

831
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: a lane the other way. I think that's how all

832
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: this shit works. You know. After the lyricists mc Era,

833
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: a lot of the stick turned to trap music and

834
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: you know, kind of like crunk and shit like that.

835
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: It's always shifting. None of this shit is a complete picture.

836
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: Mm mmmmmm.

837
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna constantly change, it's gonna constantly move. But the

838
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: truth be told, the problem isn't, in my opinion, isn't

839
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: the rappers or the rap promise. Society itself decide itself,

840
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: particularly in America, has a problem with sex and sexuality

841
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: period we have a problem controla women's body, and all

842
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: it does is it just flares up in these other

843
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: areas that we consume all of the time. And that's

844
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: why it's a problem. It's like it's a more of

845
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: a systemic and societal problem that it is a problem

846
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: of the women.

847
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: Kind of off topic, but it made me think a

848
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: k pop. I think part of the reason that oh

849
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: and I forgot them in t one more thing. Also

850
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: with social media, the women that are sexual provocative and

851
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: like visually stunning, they will always have their advantage when

852
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: it comes to that, of course, because regardless of the

853
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: high minded shit that people say, we all want to

854
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: see the visual treat of somebody, terking somebody. It's like

855
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: how you can love basketball and you might think Joker

856
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: from the Denver Nuggets is the best player in the league.

857
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: We're not gonna see a shit ton of Joker highlights

858
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: every night on social media because he ain't some niggas over,

859
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: he ain't dunking. Most of this shit is just good

860
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: passes and good crazy jump shots and shit. And you

861
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: know that doesn't mean when it's time to vote for MVP,

862
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: he won't be in the lead. But it definitely means

863
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: on Twitter, it ain't the if you look at the

864
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: retweets and shares and likes, it's gonna be the other people.

865
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: That's kind of what it is to me. For like

866
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: somebody like a Cardi Meg whatever social media built for them. Yes,

867
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: short like short, they find visually appealing, they lean all

868
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: the way into.

869
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: It and they don't run away from it, right.

870
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And people just visually are like, oh, this is

871
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: what I'm gravitating to. This is who I want to be, Like,

872
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: this is who I want to see. Depth doesn't really

873
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: work that way, right, It's hard to share some like

874
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: here's a two minute and twenty second video of No

875
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: Name saying some real deep shit on this track, Like

876
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: most people are like, I'm not doing that, you know

877
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: what I mean? That's no, there's no shade there because honestly,

878
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm actually a No Name fan, even even if I

879
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: think she could be what kind of wild on Twitter?

880
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes I listen to her music all the time, but

881
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: she ain't. She not a person you can be like

882
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: check out these bars, right, check out this production, but

883
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: also look at look at how fine she is, Like

884
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: she's not selling that, and Twitter ain't buying that and

885
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 2: because of the breakdown of the music industry and the gatekeepers,

886
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: it's really the fans picking now and fans kind of

887
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: want simple, Yes they do. They kind of want And

888
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: that's not to say these women are simple, but I

889
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: mean simple as in, like, look fine rapping about the

890
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: same shit and for the dudes rapping about the same shit,

891
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: keeping it. You know, we don't have too much complexity,

892
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: too much of that. A lot of people want that shit.

893
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, I'm not trying to think with

894
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: my music.

895
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: Most people are like that, Yeah, kind of off topic,

896
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: but it made me think, okay pop. I think part

897
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: of the reason is it's so popular with nineties babies

898
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 2: in Generation Z is because there's an accent of teeny

899
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 2: bopper music. There's a lack of variety in music in general.

900
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: It is not sexually explicit rap. It's if it's not

901
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: sexually explicit rap, it's murder drill rap, and most R

902
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: and B sounds like rap music. It's hard to differentiate

903
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: between the genres. In the last decade plus, there's no

904
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: B two K, Backstreet Boys, teen Brittany or Christina, no TLC,

905
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: et cetera. But they have them in South Korea, so

906
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: the youth have gravitated there. It could be true. I

907
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: don't know. I haven't really followed a lot of the

908
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: teen music. I've talked to my niece about music a

909
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: lot we text about it. It should put me onto

910
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: like a lot of artists that aren't like K pop,

911
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: they're just kids from here. But a lot of the

912
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: music is like either kind of emo. I guess it's

913
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: one way to describe it. It's a some of it's

914
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: kind of trap type of shit, but a lot of

915
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: it's just very vibes music and the super produced ninety shit.

916
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: To me feels like us digging into nostalgia. Because not

917
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: that I'm judging anybody, obviously, so with some of y'all

918
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: gonna take it as a judgment, but please don't be

919
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 2: too defensive about this. It doesn't matter that big a deal.

920
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm just one person. But a lot of that feels

921
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: like older people looking for nostalgia, Like we miss that

922
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: there's no version of Backstreet Boys, So then I gotta

923
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: go listening to this K pop shit, which is essentially

924
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: ripping off Backstreet Boys, or ripping off the nineties R

925
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: and B. Yeah, they're ripping that off and like I said,

926
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: it's one of the reasons I don't really understand the

927
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: Aquafina shit because I'm like, to me, these niggas are

928
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: just as flagrant, if not worse. But we like them

929
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,959
Speaker 2: and we missed that kind of music, so it's okay

930
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: for them to do it. But they didn't grow up

931
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: like that. They don't know nothing about that. They didn't

932
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: grow up here, so they don't know nothing about black culture,

933
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: but what they consume from over here to there and

934
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 2: what some manager produced and figured out and put together

935
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 2: over there. And we are just suckers for seeing our shit, man,

936
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things I love about being black.

937
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for that. But it seemed like people

938
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 2: are a little too uptight about that shit these days.

939
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: Like nah, I love seeing how influential we were by

940
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: who we influenced.

941
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: Yes, for the American I want to say the American

942
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: Music Award was I want to say one of them

943
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: awards that Cardi B did. It was on ABC and

944
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: they did a new edition and I want to say

945
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: New Kids on the Block. Yeah, New Kids on the

946
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: Block and it was a fun ride. But like you said,

947
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: it was that nostalgia and in addition, I got to

948
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: see B two K, which I've never actually seen them

949
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: perform live, and I was like, oh, and some of

950
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: a lot of the songs was like, oh, I've heard

951
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: these songs are for, but a lot of songs I've

952
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: heard have been on a lot of our commercials here,

953
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: like or like phone commercials and shit like that. So

954
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I might actually go,

955
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, check them out, and you could tell that

956
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: they actually respect it. You know where they came from.

957
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: They even knew like a lot of their routines and

958
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: shit like that, and so I was like, Okay, but

959
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm like you when it comes to the thing where

960
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: people feel like we're biting off a shit. It's a

961
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: lot of black people that love be too K and

962
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: I may not be too K, BTS and all these

963
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: other people. But you'll turn around and say something like fer,

964
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: what's the difference to me? In my mind?

965
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get it, and I really don't care

966
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: to get it. I've said enough about it so I

967
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 2: won't repeat myself. But yeah, whatever to each y'all. Anyways,

968
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: I hope this wasn't too long. Y'all have a great podcast.

969
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: Compliment each other, I'm k not gonna lie. I'm still

970
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: annoyed that someone called care and simple. Clearly they haven't

971
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: been listening to a commentary. It's anything but simple. I

972
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: feel like they may have judged or do that accent,

973
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: which is foolish. Funny enough is that if that person

974
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: is American, they probably be seen in the same light.

975
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: Let's not forget us. Americans don't speak proper English in

976
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: general and probably sounds semple to the British. Lol. Yeah,

977
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: that's one of the few things that can get my

978
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: goat is talking about Karen. I try not to flare

979
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 2: up too much about it, so on the podcast or whatever,

980
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 2: people are allowed to have their uh ill conceived opinions

981
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: of us. What we do is only going to get

982
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: more and more popular and more and more bigger. So

983
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: you know, we're we're literally putting something out there and

984
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: people are gonna feel a way about it. But a

985
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: lot of shit is anti blackness, a lot of this

986
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: ship is misogyny, a lot of this ship is just

987
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: also motherfuckers don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

988
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: You know.

989
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: You know, we was talking about that yesterday, like I was.

990
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: The Thanksgiving thing made me think back to like, Man,

991
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: I remember when they was like frying us on uh

992
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: on this message board and I and they really had

993
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: bothered me at one point, like a couple years back.

994
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: Like I called it emotional cutting because I would go

995
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: and read that shit and it would really disturb me,

996
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, man, these people just do they

997
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 2: hate what we do? Do they think we're just terrible

998
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 2: at what we do? But they still listen or whatever.

999
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm just basically was like people allowed

1000
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: to have their opinions, just try to keep it respectful

1001
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: and yeah, and a lot of this shit is superficial,

1002
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: you know.

1003
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also something and I think for us it

1004
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: has to do difference with our personality because I'm like,

1005
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: I'm very when it comes to things like that. I'm like,

1006
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: I've experienced enough life where and I've dealt with enough

1007
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: people in my lifetime in real life who don't like

1008
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: me for just existing, and I've come to that conclusion

1009
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: that a lot of people they just not gonna like me.

1010
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: And that's fine, I've realized, but like this, my presence

1011
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: and me just being myself actually makes the insecurities and

1012
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: you come up which has absolutely positively nothing to do

1013
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: with me. So instead of you addressing your insecurities, instead

1014
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: of you going what is wrong with me? Instead of

1015
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: you going what is it within Karen? This comes to

1016
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: me to respond like this, you lash out and so

1017
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: the problem is to me, the problem is you. You

1018
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: need therapy, You need to go talk to somebody, You

1019
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: need to get some pills in Jesus and work it

1020
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: out on your own. The court which has absolutely positive

1021
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. And once I got to

1022
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: that point, my life became a whole lot freer because

1023
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: trust anything that you can say about me, I have

1024
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: lived long enough and have had my own self doubts

1025
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: the trust. I have beat myself enough in my lifetime.

1026
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: And it's funny though, because a lot of times when

1027
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: people have all these varying opinions about you, then you know,

1028
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: absolutely positive know nothing about you. I think I.

1029
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 2: Like, I just go back, like I remember criticizing our bodies,

1030
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: criticizing your hair, criticized in your accent, criticized like these

1031
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: things were so mean and so rude, and it was like,

1032
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: I hesitate to think anyone would say something shit like

1033
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: that to our faces.

1034
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: Period.

1035
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 2: And then the other part that was interesting was uh,

1036
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: you know, because first I was defensive and upset by it,

1037
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: but then as I was reading it, you can see

1038
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: the dates and it's like, oh, these people have been

1039
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: listening for years. These are some of our most loyal fans. Yes,

1040
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: and honestly, a download is a download, So if they

1041
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 2: don't like us, they don't like us. But it was

1042
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: it was interesting to think of it as who people

1043
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: see us as and the theories and conspiracies that that

1044
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: come behind it, you know, and to see somebody tell you, oh,

1045
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: you could tell that he hates Karen, or you could

1046
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: tell that Gez this way and he's that way, and

1047
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: you're like, y'all have really put some thought into this shit.

1048
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: Do you ever go back and go Damn it's been

1049
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: three years later, still together, and apparently I was wrong.

1050
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 2: These motherfuckers don't hate each other at all. Okay, Like

1051
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: it's like, it's never anything like that, and it's so

1052
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: it's so weird and not It's one of the things

1053
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 2: that really made me very defensive of when people do

1054
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: this kind of take down culture and power on culture

1055
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: and against celebrities and stuff. It's one of the things

1056
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: that really made me be like, wait, let me consider

1057
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: the other side of this, because I have to some extent,

1058
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 2: a very small extent, I've now been on the other

1059
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: side of this with somebody calling you an ego maniac

1060
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: or a narcissist m or and you're like, that's not

1061
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 2: me at all. Now, if I'm that way and somebody

1062
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: could say something that fucked up about me, yeah, it

1063
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: does make me think twice, Like should I be on

1064
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: my podcast saying Travis Scott killed some people or Chris

1065
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: Pratt hates his child Secretly, Yeah, I might air on

1066
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: the side of like I'm a chill on that. I don't.

1067
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to be involved saying something reckless like

1068
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: that because I'd rather be overly cautious than to aggressive,

1069
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: because you can always get more aggressive, but you can

1070
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: very rarely tone down the shit you already said. And

1071
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: so a lot of that stuff, you know, made me

1072
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: think about that. And Yeah, occasionally somebody will try to

1073
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: put some sideway shit on here, and like I said,

1074
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 2: it's for me. I know them a lot better because

1075
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: there would been a time I would have just been

1076
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: on here ranting and raving and yelling at people. But

1077
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: some of that is what they want because it gives

1078
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: them validation. Yes, like even us talking right now, some

1079
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: of them are getting, you know, validations off of like, oh,

1080
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: some of the things we said hurt their feelings a

1081
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: long time ago and they admitted it, and some of

1082
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: it is, you know, to me, I'm like, what does

1083
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: that say about you? That that's the thing that validated you? Right?

1084
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: What does that say about you? Because it says more

1085
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: to more about you than it is to me. And

1086
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: it's also one of the things as I've gotten older,

1087
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: I realized this. People have their opinions and no matter

1088
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: what you say, say, or what you do, somebody's gonna

1089
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: always have something to say about you. But if you're

1090
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: not bold and bold enough to say it to my

1091
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: motherfucking face, you actually don't matter. I'm just keeping that simple.

1092
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: If you're not bold enough to actually walk up to

1093
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: me look me in my eyes where I can respond

1094
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: any way, I choose to your motherfucking comments. If you're

1095
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: not wanting to do that, you do not matter too.

1096
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, you know that, I was

1097
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: thinking about how far we've come because I made a

1098
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: joke on my page about like, oh tell me, I

1099
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: was thankful y'all for me because I thought it would

1100
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: be funny, like there isn't this Like obviously, y'all get

1101
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: that I'm being ridiculous. I like it's Thanksgiving and I'm saying,

1102
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: tell me you're thankful for me, that's pretty funny. And

1103
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: when people start sincerely being like, nah, but for real,

1104
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: you know, y'all, y'all created this space and thank you

1105
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: for your show. And I met good people, and man,

1106
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: this community has been great. And it's a bit overwhelmed

1107
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: emotionally and so sentimental because it's.

1108
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: Like, yo, we did do these things.

1109
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: People have benefited from our silly ass show. We go

1110
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: to our spare bedroom, sit across from each other and record,

1111
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: and you know, while there's some people sitting around, like,

1112
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: why aren't they putting on a fucking tuxedo and a

1113
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: cocktail dress to go sit in the other room, and

1114
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: why you know, putting on a full beat a makeup

1115
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: and getting our hair dead and shaving and all this

1116
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: type of shit to go talk to our spouse about

1117
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: bullshit for an hour and a half. Times, there's a

1118
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: whole lot of other people that see how dope what

1119
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: we do is. And honestly, what it really made me

1120
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: think is it's a lot of people that just never

1121
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: seen two black people that was free before, Like y'all

1122
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: really don't see this. Often, all our money we make

1123
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: is from the people that just love us for being us.

1124
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. Everything we make unless it's

1125
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: like an ad, which then we made because of these

1126
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: people and these people that listen to us. Every opinion

1127
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: we have is straight from us. Nobody owns us, nobody

1128
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: tells us what to do. The way we look is

1129
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: what makes us comfortable and how, and we're so comfortable

1130
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: in our skin it might make you uncomfortable the way

1131
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: that we love each other with this type of unconditional love.

1132
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: You ain't seeing that nowhere else, you know, and it's

1133
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: not really for you. I could give a damn what

1134
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: you think about my wife, cause it don't change nothing

1135
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: like that. You're not in this room with me. You're

1136
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: not in this house for me. You're not in my

1137
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: life with me. You haven't been to the highs or

1138
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: the lows with us, so you don't know. So it's

1139
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: that kind of shit that I think about. That's like, yeah,

1140
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: I guess to some people, it is shocking, It is offensive,

1141
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: It is off the beat, it is you know, critic.

1142
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: You know, this has to be there has to be

1143
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: something wrong with us or whatever. And yeah, to them

1144
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: maybe is oh they're simple this you know or this

1145
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, he's this, she's that. Whatever. You're still listening,

1146
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So we'll see you next episode.

1147
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Yeah, we.

1148
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: Will in this also, And I've been around long enough

1149
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: where we've had people talk you know, talk saut ways

1150
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: online and then you meet them face to face and

1151
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: they don't have that same energy. So I know most

1152
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: people ain't about that life. Like the average person ain't

1153
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: gangst them. Most people talk shit online, they are not

1154
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: gangst them.

1155
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, like, I never thought i'd be on

1156
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: these people. But some of us just people being jealous. Yes,

1157
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: Like I like hate to make it that simple, but

1158
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: that's just the experience I've had. I've had people that

1159
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: it felt like they wanted to be my best friend

1160
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: because they just wanted to be next to me in

1161
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: case some shit happened that vicariously they can sniff off

1162
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: of and be like, oh, I got something too. You know,

1163
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: there's people that think you go in places, you know.

1164
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: One of the things I have to give anybody that's

1165
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: ever been negative towards us in our show, A lot

1166
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: of them had more faith in us than I had

1167
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: faith in us. And I don't mean as a marriage,

1168
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: but as a show. And I have to give them credit.

1169
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: They saw what we were going long before I did,

1170
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: because they was like, I just want them to they

1171
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: need to change this because they about to be this way.

1172
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Nigga's just us talking. And then I'm like, oh,

1173
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: guess what. I guess we did get some you know,

1174
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: we are on HBO, we are on Spotify. We aren't

1175
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: getting these opportunities behind the scenes and shit that you know,

1176
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: we are getting fluid out and all this shit. So

1177
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 2: I guess you did see us bigger than I saw

1178
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: myself because I never thought and still to this day,

1179
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: don't really think of my opinion as that fucking important.

1180
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: There's a million podcasts out there and anybody can go

1181
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: listen to any opinion of anybody, anybody, and yet somehow

1182
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: you keep coming back to us and honestly, thank you,

1183
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: Like honestly, when people talk shit is probably would make

1184
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: people go look at people shit more like yeah, oh

1185
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: oh they did what And then they go listen and

1186
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: be like oh this is a pretty reasonable show. I

1187
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: kind of like this guy, you.

1188
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: Know, and then and then we got a new fan,

1189
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: and you know, so it's like you hating, but that

1190
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: you end up giving somebody they new love and and.

1191
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 2: Thank you because they, like I said, even those people,

1192
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: they're not stopping listening, so they're not And.

1193
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: It's also one of the things too, And this right

1194
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: here is just fucking hilarious to be a lot of

1195
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: times I've realized, uh when it people that are not

1196
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 1: like true fans of the show, uh love me like

1197
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: like you know, like as the show went on, I

1198
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: was like, okay, these people out hearing ashes for me,

1199
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 1: but for some reason, for a lot of the ship,

1200
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: it's actually all talking towards you, and I'm an afterthought.

1201
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I realized. Even a lot of

1202
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: the comments and things like that, it's like I'm actually invisible,

1203
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: you know to a lot of them. And like you

1204
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: said a lot of times then on that won'll be

1205
01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 1: my best friend. They won't be your best friend.

1206
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is a real fucking problem. Yeah, the

1207
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: push to get to you counter your blessings though I

1208
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: don't want them problems, like but that is that is

1209
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: a real fucking problem, and it's very disconcerting.

1210
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: Dropkick me to get to you.

1211
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: It's very disconcerting sometimes. But I mean, like I said,

1212
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: it's thank you for those folks that say ship like that,

1213
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: and y'all and y'all fans, y'all see it too, and

1214
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: that's why I can't just write it up. And it

1215
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 2: just made me think about that in the light of

1216
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: yesterday seeing all those, like so many comments about like

1217
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 2: being thankful for us in the show, and then just

1218
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: being like, oh, yeah, that's man. There's so many people

1219
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: out here that I appreciate it. Why why give so

1220
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: much air and so much time? Like if y'all notice,

1221
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: we rarely talk about the people that don't like the

1222
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: show anymore, like it used to bother me a lot,

1223
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: even the talking about like whatever ridiculous shit Twitter was

1224
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: talking about that day, I stopped talking about that as much.

1225
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. I know who I am,

1226
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: and I think what a lot of people heard was

1227
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: me creating boundaries in my life and carving out for

1228
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: me as an impath where I'm gonna stop letting that

1229
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: control myself or just innately letting that shit make me miserable.

1230
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, I cut this off. And I

1231
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: was talking about it because that's what we do every day.

1232
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: But I don't talk about that shit as much anymore

1233
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: because I'm like, Okay, those boundaries have been made. If

1234
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: you want to go be crazy on the internet and

1235
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: be mad or be stupid or whatever, I'm not gonna

1236
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: follow you and engage in it. But you know, I

1237
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: still give my opinion when the shit rises to like

1238
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: a high level, like some of the harassment and shit

1239
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: you see online, but in general, like, all right, motherfuckers,

1240
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: won't be stupid.

1241
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's one thing it's hard for people to understand. Y'all.

1242
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: We have have thousands and thousands of hours of men

1243
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: and Roger's voices that people can listen to. If you

1244
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: listen to us over such a period of time, you

1245
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: have heard us grow, You've heard this evolved, you heard

1246
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: our opinions on things change. And the thing is it's

1247
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: actually in front of people. Most people go through this.

1248
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of forty and fifteen sixty

1249
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: year olds they went through this process too. But you

1250
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: know what they did without without being recorded. They did

1251
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: it without cameras. They did it without somebody able to

1252
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: press play. They did it without you know, somebody able

1253
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: to rewind and re rewind and keep them in that

1254
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: moment forever if they chose to. You did it in

1255
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: the privacy of your home. You did it with your

1256
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: family and your friends and your loved ones. You did

1257
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: it outside of the public eye. And so because you know,

1258
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: people can go back at anytime and listen, listen to

1259
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: these these voices that act like they got something. No, bitch,

1260
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: I said it, You ain't got shit. I said it. Yeah,

1261
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: I said it. I admit that I said that. I

1262
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: have growed and changed, it evolved, just like everybody else.

1263
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of times that disconnect between

1264
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: us and other people, because a lot of people want

1265
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: to take people flaws, they want to hold them against

1266
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: them forever, and you like, that's not realistic because you

1267
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: won't even do that for yourself.

1268
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: But it's also just that it's that thing people have

1269
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: with it go critics. It's always value and criticism. And

1270
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know who says that the people that

1271
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: never get criticized, right, because you ain't never did nothing

1272
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 2: worth people talking about, Like you're just the one shouting

1273
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: at everyone else about how they ain't doing it right,

1274
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 2: But nobody has any You have no work for people

1275
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: to talk about, so it's easy for you to think

1276
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: you could have done it right, the same thing that

1277
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: made us start this podcast. If you think it's easy,

1278
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: go do it yourself. Go get big as us, Go

1279
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: get money, Go get and the claim, Go win your award.

1280
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: Go do that shit and and show us the right

1281
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: way to do it. Go dress up, go you know,

1282
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: get your hair done. Go like whatever it is that

1283
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: we not doing that, you think we could be doing

1284
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: that that would make the thing better. May go read

1285
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: a book, Go make the show short. Read all the books.

1286
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: Never talk about pop culture and social media. Do the

1287
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: shit your way, and let's see who's better. I challenge you,

1288
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: you know, write us two five, ten years from now.

1289
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: Don't let us know like, hey, I did things. I

1290
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 2: wasn't fat like you. I got my hair, did my clothes.

1291
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: Naive is your wife.

1292
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 2: I want nothing but the best fashions in my bedroom.

1293
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: And now look at me, a mogul, and I'd be like, damn,

1294
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: I guess you was right.

1295
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: I guess you was right. I congratulations.

1296
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: Until then, just keep calling us simple and talking shit

1297
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: about us, but most support to keep listening, because that's

1298
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: the value you have is if you're gonna be negative,

1299
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: at least be a download because y'all downloads helped us

1300
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: get manscaped.

1301
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: Come on, you know every download count.

1302
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: Joe says Light would have made it today assuming she

1303
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 2: was the age she was then. Now, It's not like

1304
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 2: the expectation for women to entertainment the dress provocatively started

1305
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: in the last ten years. There's always been a road,

1306
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: perhaps more difficult, but still present for women who focus

1307
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: on the craft and didn't attempt to get to be

1308
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: something they were not. I believe Missy Elliott gains success

1309
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: in the world that had Little Kim and Foxy Brown

1310
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 2: in it, among others. I don't want to get all

1311
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton here and asked what made it means? I

1312
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 2: will just say that if we consider lights initial success

1313
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: levels having made it, I think a similar statue in

1314
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 2: today's rap game is not unreasonable. Okay. MS Barnes says

1315
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: MC Light had well. I will say this though, Joe.

1316
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: The only thing I push back on is when it

1317
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 2: was Light's era, Light was not a stand out because

1318
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: she dressed so differently than the other women. Most of

1319
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: the women, especially from the New York the North area,

1320
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 2: dressed like that this code his hal outside come on

1321
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 2: and we wrapping in fucking jackets and sweaters and shit,

1322
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: and everybody was just like, that's that's okay. And so

1323
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 2: I think we can acknowledge the cultural shift. And I

1324
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: do think dressing provocatively is something that started as a

1325
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: coach shift for the women. The sexual lyrics and addressed

1326
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 2: barvocatively did kind of start maybe maybe like you said,

1327
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: not ten years ago, but maybe like twenty years ago,

1328
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: somewhere around there. I think it did start. MS Barnes

1329
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: says MC had strong lyrics as on the flow for

1330
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 2: in her own style, she would make it in this

1331
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: day age she would be deemed refreshing against the current

1332
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: cropper women. Oh yeah, that would suck for her the

1333
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: But see why can't y'all be like MC light like

1334
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: nobody want them fans.

1335
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: And she just trying to do her thing, and they everybody,

1336
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you become a fucking mascot. You

1337
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: was like, can I make music, y'all, don't be bashing

1338
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: other women with my work.

1339
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. Someone one of the compliments for our show kind

1340
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: of had a dish to somebody else's show, and I

1341
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: was like, well, I'm not sharing that one, you know,

1342
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: like I don't want to be the alternative to some

1343
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: other motherfucker. I appreciate it, you know what, but I

1344
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: you know, now I'm in trouble because all I said

1345
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: was like, I agree, I do. We are different now,

1346
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 2: So motherfucker. Someone was like, what, well, man, ain't it

1347
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: what I got to do with it? When I hear

1348
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 2: Sea Rastity shout out the m c rap excellence, she

1349
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 2: reminds me MC light, Queen Laty from Other Love Rock

1350
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: said Shan Taste Salt Pepper just to name a few. Yes,

1351
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: she named a lot of tracks after them and stuff.

1352
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: Back then, it was the lyrics to flow the style.

1353
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 2: A lot of women rappers. Then we're rocking the Tomboys style.

1354
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, I guess it was to show that

1355
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: they could wrap just as good or better than the

1356
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: male counterparts. Later on, as time progress, they can let

1357
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: their hair down, dress more feminine, but the rats are

1358
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: still on point. Yeah, that is true. That was kind

1359
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: of a trajectory, and for the women that did stick

1360
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: around a little bit longer, you did see their softer

1361
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: side eventually. So yeah, I feel you on that that

1362
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 2: makes sense.

1363
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: But I tell you one thing. I never want to

1364
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: be a rapper, But I tell you one thing. I

1365
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: want to get my hair cut like MC light and

1366
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: salt and pepper and I did hunt it that that

1367
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: one side one side above your ear and your souper

1368
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: a round on the other side. Long and you can

1369
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: tell me Shit.

1370
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: Says on the poll, I'm definitely biased for my love

1371
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: and EMC light. That's not a great source. Yeah, Like

1372
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: I said, it's just an interesting thought conversation. And then

1373
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: the Spotify pole was very similar. Sexty three persay she

1374
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 2: can make it even she's still dressed conservatively. Nonsense said yes,

1375
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: but only she dressed vocatively, and twenty nine percent just

1376
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: said flat out no. Uh and I The question on

1377
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: Spotify was black Reindale names go David says Space, Prince

1378
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: Hip Cash and Ray Kwan.

1379
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: Talk pat twenty one.

1380
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 2: H Arin Gullich says Prince Savius Jackson. That's hilarious. Two

1381
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: people in a row who I don't think know each

1382
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: other put Pooky, So we got two poogies on the list.

1383
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: Yes, Pooky making the list.

1384
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: Oh Heaven's Kevira says dash Sean not that sh don

1385
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: c Proncy Jaden, comment Koopi, Disha and Donelle and Blissavius.

1386
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 2: But do you recall the most annoying raindew of all

1387
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,520
Speaker 2: ky Rudolph Irvin.

1388
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 3: The reluctant right there, Calvin says, why.

1389
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 1: Does Calvin that that that that he owns the McDonald's.

1390
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 2: On Calvin on blitzing.

1391
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: During the other time of the year he run his

1392
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: McDonald's corporations.

1393
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: Ramsey says dirt Dasher Tiffany, and Tiffany says lamont Uh,

1394
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 2: Rudeesha the Redbone raindere shout colorism uh Liz little, Uzzie

1395
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 2: Rader says it Barnes Deshaun says Kaylin Russell says Cecil

1396
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 2: quite a debt his blackness, okay, Uh. Victoria says rain Dante,

1397
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: that's a good one. Scooter Scruffy, Remy Porsche, little name

1398
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: here and Rudolph Fini all your like little prince or

1399
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: whatever day day.

1400
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1401
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 2: That's comment Cupid, Donovan and blizz that's a sneaky good

1402
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: one that can replace Donner Uh three slave mafia, So Solomon.

1403
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1404
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

1405
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: Yes. Mc light is literally throw back to Tierra wackoracity. Okay,

1406
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: that's that person's off topic, not pinning his comment.

1407
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

1408
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 2: Olivia says, can't forget Leroy, the lazy eye rein there,

1409
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: except if it's one of the racist senator's reined there,

1410
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: he would just be lazy Leroy. Linda says Routavius, Blitz, Marcus,

1411
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: and Dan Sir, when I said this statement out loud,

1412
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: my nephew got so excited to help with the names.

1413
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: Start to your nephew, and Roger says, Pooky. So Pooky

1414
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 2: was the number one. Pooky was big in the streets.

1415
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's go to the final episode

1416
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: of the week. We had episode twenty four fifty one,

1417
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 2: the Dick Pick Bandit, and we had two comments. Let's

1418
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 2: see Evee e left both comments says, I don't know

1419
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: why you singing in polish about cocaine was Oh why

1420
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: that cactus singing and polish about cocaine was so fun

1421
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: to me. But imagine somewhere in Russia as a toy

1422
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: cat singing wet ass pussy right could.

1423
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 1: Be could be and the people have no idea what

1424
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: that cat.

1425
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to know the other side of

1426
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 2: this now, because it's got to be some places.

1427
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: Where I didn't think about that, where English is not

1428
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: their first language, so they just, you know, they got

1429
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: some shit and is just saying random shit and they

1430
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 1: don't know.

1431
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: And copyright laws are not the same.

1432
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: No, they're not over there.

1433
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 2: It's gotta be something, all right. And the poll for Oh,

1434
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry the next episode was why did I close that?

1435
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 2: I must have closed that tab? Oh yeah, twenty four

1436
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: to fifty one. The dick pick bandit. So the poll

1437
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: for this episode was do you think Dave Chapelle is

1438
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: done making LGBTQ jokes? Yes, this time he's really really done,

1439
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 2: or of course not, He'll never stop, can't stop, won't stop.

1440
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: All right, So this time the results of the poll,

1441
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 2: ninety three percent said of course he'll never stop, number

1442
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: one one up, and seven percent said no, this time,

1443
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: this time he's really really done. Y'all are going to

1444
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: be disappointed again, which, honestly, if y'all in the seventh

1445
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: haven't given us money or something like how are you?

1446
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 2: How are you breathing? How do you make your rent?

1447
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: How are you how you get a job, how do

1448
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 2: you get paid? Because that level of gullibility I need

1449
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 2: to harness that and put it on something. You know,

1450
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: I said from day fucking one when when when I

1451
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 2: watch that special and got done, was like, man, it's

1452
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: sad because I already see the path this dude is

1453
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 2: gonna go down, and he's gonna be talking about this

1454
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 2: shit for a while. He's already been talking about it

1455
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: for three years. But one of the major defenses of

1456
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: the special was he said he's done talking about it,

1457
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: and every last one of those people sounds like a fool.

1458
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: And they took his word on all of that shit

1459
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: in the special like he's the only arbiter, and he

1460
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: used the he's a reliable source. Well he's right here

1461
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 2: spitting in your face saying like, no, I'm not done

1462
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 2: talking about it. I'm he just had a thing where

1463
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,879
Speaker 2: he went to the school Duke Ellen in school and basically,

1464
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 2: you know, made it seem like those kids were wrong

1465
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: and they owe him, and they he was like, I was,

1466
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, hoping to basically get their apology. Basically not

1467
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 2: you know, paraphrasing, but that's the way it sounds like

1468
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: it came off. Was like, I'm trying to get y'all

1469
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,839
Speaker 2: the ones that owe me an apology for doing me dirty.

1470
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, it's you know, I don't think he's

1471
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 2: done talking about this by a long shot, and I

1472
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 2: think it's the only thing he has to talk about,

1473
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: because it doesn't seem like he got a lot of

1474
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: jokes about anything happening right now, and a lot of

1475
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 2: people are gullible and stupid enough to think that what

1476
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 2: he's doing is punching the bullies of trans people who

1477
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: you quote unquote can't say nothing bad about, which is

1478
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: literally one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard

1479
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 2: in my life. We could do a one eighty today

1480
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: on our show, turn out show into some transphobic ass,

1481
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: like we talk bad about people's bodies and shit, we

1482
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: got we bringing people on here and asking them invasive

1483
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 2: questions about their bodies and questioning their humanity and their

1484
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 2: personhood and all this shit, and we probably get more

1485
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: support than we get now, Like, it's weird that all

1486
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,839
Speaker 2: these people are convinced themselves that their very mainstream ideology

1487
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 2: of being transphobic is the is the position of the underdogs.

1488
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: And I hate to see a man that I think

1489
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 2: is brilliant take part in that, and I think it's

1490
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: beneath him. Even though I guess nothing's beneath a person

1491
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: that's doing what they're doing, but I do think it's

1492
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 2: beneath them. And he's convinced that he will be proven right,

1493
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: and it's just a discussion and it's just a conversation

1494
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: and none of this shit that where all these right

1495
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 2: wing Republicans are a lauding him, celebrating him and saying

1496
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 2: I agree wholeheartedly with him. The same right wing Republicans

1497
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 2: that don't give a fuck about his black life life

1498
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: or mine or yours. The same the same right wing

1499
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: Republicans that think that you know, they're like something was

1500
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 2: wrong with us for not one for one justice for

1501
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 2: Judge Floyd. The same people that think, uh, these racial

1502
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 2: protests are looting, looting and rioting. Those people, same people

1503
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 2: trying to overthrow the fucking country and do an insurrection,

1504
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: think Dave Chapelle is their hero and he don't think

1505
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: there's nothing in his message that could be fucked up,

1506
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: And I think that's sad. So but yeah, on the

1507
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: Spotify depot was even bigger. One hundred percent of people

1508
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: said he's never gonna stop, so shout out to Spotify.

1509
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 2: They was like, no, y'all get it honestly. So yeah,

1510
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,879
Speaker 2: we'll see. Uh. Anyway, so we had some comments, Joe says,

1511
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 2: Dave's in jerkmo right now. He's in his filings because

1512
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: he got called out for those jokes. I think there's

1513
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 2: might be the first time Dave has pushback from material

1514
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 2: and his egos bruised. He can't get past his indignation

1515
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 2: to begin to understand where it's concerns this concern is

1516
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: coming from. Ironically, if he could, I bet there's some

1517
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: really good material there about that real the realization. Instead,

1518
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: he's taking the sad boy route, winding about changes in

1519
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: the culture in front of an even ever ashier, crowded onlookers.

1520
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1521
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: Man, you know, like That's one thing I definitely have

1522
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 2: to say is like, I think part of my annoyance

1523
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: with this is I was such a big fan, right

1524
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 2: and it's just like, oh okay, well and some and

1525
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't think parasocial relations where it's like I'm a fan,

1526
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 2: you owe me. I don't look at it like that.

1527
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 2: I look at it like I saw a person that

1528
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 2: had potential and still does. Let's be frank, I mean,

1529
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: you're not dead. You could wake up tomorrow and be like, oh, okay,

1530
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 2: I'll see what you're saying. But I saw a dude

1531
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 2: that and still is that guy that made some of

1532
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 2: the most brilliant funny his most poignant points period to me,

1533
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 2: and yeah, and to know he's capable of that, But

1534
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 2: then he's filing around with Joe Rogan and doing a

1535
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,759
Speaker 2: lot of like cancel culture is the problem shit. It's like, okay,

1536
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: all right, well that's kind of that same bullshit I

1537
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: can get anywhere. There's nothing special about that kind of comedy.

1538
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: Nothing unique about it, Eve, He says.

1539
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 2: I meant in your very first poll, I voted yes,

1540
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: he's done, but I learned my lesson by the time

1541
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 2: you posted a second pole the second time I vote,

1542
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: and I voted know this time around, David's going out

1543
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: super sad. I appreciate you admitting it because only the

1544
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: numbers are only three people voted yes. But they those

1545
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: people never write why they think he's done, and I

1546
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: think they know he's not, and that's why they don't

1547
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 2: want to put their name to it. MS Barnes says, naw,

1548
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 2: he's on that double down drug at the moment. I

1549
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 2: hope the hope is that the folks that were in

1550
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 2: the corner in his corner are now seeing the comedy

1551
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,799
Speaker 2: hill that he wants to die on as the realist

1552
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 2: graveyard of no return. And Trey says, Nah, he thinks

1553
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: he's white now, so he is doing that bullshit ass

1554
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 2: thing where he hides behind a fake free speech flag,

1555
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: excuses comments which complete, which is complete, and other bullshit.

1556
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: In the end, I just agreed with what Kat Williams

1557
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 2: said on the podcast about cancel culture. Yeah, and im

1558
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: just for the record, I don't think other comedians are

1559
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 2: calling him out or really even necessarily need to. I

1560
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: don't think it's that type of situation. I understand why

1561
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 2: a comedian wouldn't necessarily feel like they needed to shut

1562
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: him down as much as they could just say I'm

1563
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 2: gonna use my voice. I disagree with him, Obviously he

1564
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: got the right to say it. Nobody can fucking stop

1565
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 2: somebody from getting on the stage and saying whatever jokes

1566
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: they want. But let's be honest, there's more pushback with

1567
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 2: certain shit. There are no white comics doing nigga jokes

1568
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: right now. There is no black face comic. That shit

1569
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: did used to be ubiquitous. What changed? Why is it

1570
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 2: somebody you know, and I you know, like I said

1571
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 2: that Mark Marron episode that I suggested y'all while ago,

1572
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: it's it's so good because it's like that was a

1573
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: time when the spoils sports were the ones going, hey, man,

1574
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: isn't it fucked up to do blackface and make nigger jokes?

1575
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: Like don't y'all think that's over the And they would

1576
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 2: be like, y'all are to this pete political correct bullshit,

1577
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 2: same excuse sucking up my comedy and what about my

1578
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 2: freedom of speech? So and I'm you know, and I'm

1579
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: a good person. I'm not the one lynching these niggers.

1580
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: I'm just making jokes about it.

1581
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: And not only fus Irish people. They used to have

1582
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of Irish jokes. Irish people went in there

1583
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: and stop throwing eggs to them niggas. But y'all gonna

1584
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: do it, stop.

1585
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 2: These jokes right right. So the anchor question was what's

1586
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: the most underrated Black Thanksgiving? Saying, you know a lot

1587
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 2: of people say it's you know a lot of people's

1588
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: favorite Black Thanksgiving, saying that y'all have seen on social media.

1589
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: As always, who made the protect salad? I get it?

1590
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: You know. That's a good one. That's a good It's

1591
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: a classic. I don't know how before social media and

1592
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: the Internet, black people all had the same fucking family experience.

1593
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: It's crazy when you think about it, but mine has

1594
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 2: always been and I think it's underrated, but it's is

1595
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 2: that porkin this? Ah?

1596
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: That's good?

1597
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 2: What? That's every Thanksgiving, every family event I've ever had,

1598
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 2: there's always that one uncle or aunt that that don't

1599
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: dine on the swine and they look at the greens

1600
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 2: or whatever, and they got to stop you in it.

1601
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: Hold on, nephew, let me ask you, is it pokingon greens?

1602
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: And you like, uh, yeah, yeah, she put a little pole.

1603
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: See I don't know that that's wine.

1604
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: You'd be like I used turkey, all right, all right?

1605
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: See see this is why I love this, why you're

1606
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: my favorite needs.

1607
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 2: Black people love two things the most, uh in my experience.

1608
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 2: Number one, to tell you that they don't know something

1609
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: caring is a prime example.

1610
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: I am the queen I don't know.

1611
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 2: Loves to not know spenfi. I's telling you how much

1612
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: she don't know. I suld have had will okay. And

1613
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 2: then the other one is to tell you if they

1614
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 2: don't eat pork. Oh, nobody's ever asked you. We don't

1615
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 2: give a fuck. We don't care.

1616
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 1: It's in.

1617
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: It's gonna be in your bio on social media. You're

1618
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 2: gonna wear a T shirt to the cookout that said

1619
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 2: every dish dishes that don't you have pork in it?

1620
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: Who ain't this lemon pound? Okay, you got pork in it?

1621
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 2: Cause I don't mess with that's line. We get it. Nigga,

1622
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: Damn congratur fucking relations you offer flying all lay again,

1623
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 2: you and white bacon. We get it. You're the one. Fuck.

1624
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: I guess that's how white people feel when their friend

1625
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: who's like vegan step in there and they be like, nigga,

1626
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: we okay, everybody knows you're vegan.

1627
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't know because I've never really

1628
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 2: kicked it with that many vegans. But I know for

1629
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 2: a fact. Niggas that don't eat pork love to tell

1630
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 2: you that I don't eat port. God damn, it's like

1631
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 2: it's unclogged arteries in the longer life with lower blood pressure.

1632
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 2: Not enough of a win for you.

1633
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: You're going down living us anyway.

1634
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 2: You gotta come and gloat in front of the rest

1635
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: of us that you with your seasonless ship, like, we

1636
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: get it. You don't eat pork damn anyway. So I

1637
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 2: asked them what the most you know, what their most

1638
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 2: underrated Black Thanksgiving and saying is let's go, Joe says,

1639
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 2: who made the potato salad? Macaroni? You know, I knew

1640
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: everybody was gonna say that one. Who made the potato salad?

1641
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: Who made the potato salad? Ooh, this is a good one,

1642
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 2: says How long y'all stand?

1643
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, nor? What time it start?

1644
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely, that's what.

1645
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be there?

1646
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 2: Who are gonna be there? Yup? Take some of this

1647
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 2: home with you? Is a great, all time great it is.

1648
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 2: It is my parents made us take some pumpkin pie

1649
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 2: or some sweet potato potes.

1650
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes you'd be like, you be like, I know I'm

1651
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: not gonna eat this tomorrow. Well, I guess I wrap

1652
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: it up and take it out.

1653
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: I say that every time because I'm full. And then

1654
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: I get home and it'd be like ten eleven o'clock

1655
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 2: at night, I'll be like that macaron cheese and turkey.

1656
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: Still in there, and that's what the hell I'll be

1657
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: eating on yeah.

1658
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: I definitely went in there and warnd up my plate.

1659
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong with that.

1660
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, that dressing would be

1661
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: good right about now, so they know better than me.

1662
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 2: When you fool, though, you don't you be like fool, yeah,

1663
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: because you fool.

1664
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you put this.

1665
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: Out of my face and then you get home and

1666
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: be like, man, that mother fucking pie was that would

1667
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 2: be banging right now?

1668
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: This is I'm so enough glad that They was like,

1669
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: y'all take some of.

1670
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 2: This home, yeah, mics on that pile of the show.

1671
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 2: Uh is this sweet potato a pumpkin pie? Yes, Kaitlin,

1672
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 2: you get the show.

1673
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: That's a good one. And I had to finally ask

1674
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,759
Speaker 1: my mama because that shit was annoying. Sweet potato pie.

1675
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: The orange is a darker colored orange than pumpkin. I

1676
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: had to learn that shit the hard way because it's

1677
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: all fucking.

1678
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 2: Orange, and I still ask.

1679
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: And if you don't know the difference, you end up

1680
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: biting into that shit and be hoighly disappointed when you

1681
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: got your knock tuned up for some sweet potatoes. The

1682
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: motherfucking pumpkin right.

1683
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: I think pumpkin pie and uh, oatmeal raisin cookies both

1684
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 2: get unfairly hated on because of the deception the trick. Yet,

1685
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 2: and it's not they fault necessarily, but the anger that

1686
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 2: you have when you are all set to eat one

1687
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 2: thing and you bite into it as something else. It's

1688
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 2: the disappointment is very irrational. It's like that that fourteen

1689
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 2: It's like that fourteen seconds when you look in the

1690
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 2: bag after you leave a fast food place and they

1691
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 2: didn't put your sauce in there, or you got the

1692
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 2: wrong order the mantle. Like that's why I don't want

1693
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 2: a gun, because's like, oh, I shoot everybody in this

1694
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 2: motherfucker for fourteen seconds. For fourteen seconds, like they disrespected me.

1695
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 2: I take seven monkeys.

1696
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 1: Take this personally, and it's like it's nothing personal, little

1697
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 1: against you.

1698
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,919
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's kids on them Donald's playground.

1699
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 2: Everybody got to get it today because hot mustard wasn't

1700
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: in the bag. Well, I got some hot lead for

1701
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 2: your ass. And then then it calms down. You're like, Rod,

1702
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 2: you're a dope. Calm down. You have us sauce at

1703
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: home or whatever. Pet you'all ship together, surf right. But

1704
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 2: that's how it feels when you eat like a you

1705
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 2: bite it to a cookie and be like this ain't

1706
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: no chocolate. This is oh man, fuck this cookie and

1707
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 2: fuck everybody, where's my gun? Yeah?

1708
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: And the thing is, like you say, it's not the

1709
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: it's not the power. I don't mind pumpkin pie and

1710
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't mind oatmeal raising cookies. I don't mind them.

1711
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 1: But if I know that's what it is, I'm good.

1712
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I would definitely eat some if

1713
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 2: you tell me like, hey man, I made some punkin pie.

1714
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 2: You want something, yes, But if I just in the

1715
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: kitchen like oh sweet potato and I do it, it's like, oh,

1716
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 2: fuck you, nigga. You think you're trying to pass off

1717
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 2: pumpkin and sweet.

1718
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: Potato, right, you should have had a sign. Who you

1719
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: think you're playing with.

1720
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 2: A drilling? They collar jacked up up, like in your

1721
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 2: arms and pushing them up against a way, trying to

1722
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,440
Speaker 2: trick me. But it's your grandmama and ship nigga.

1723
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Trying to play me.

1724
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 2: What the you think you're dealing with? Grandma? That is sweet,

1725
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 2: that's not sweet potato doesn't like but uh anyway, uh,

1726
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 2: that's why you don't have guys. Uh ms Barn says

1727
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: where the drink at That's another classic. That's another classic.

1728
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Another one is particularly if this person is late, who's

1729
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: supposed to bring the plates, because you know a lot

1730
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,719
Speaker 1: of times they make sure the person who bring the plates,

1731
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:36,719
Speaker 1: they make sure that niggas the one that shows up early.

1732
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: You can't make to bring the plate bringing ice person

1733
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:41,440
Speaker 1: the late niggas.

1734
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: Uh, you're gonna walk past me and say and not

1735
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 2: say hi.

1736
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1737
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 2: That's a classic. That's a class and they always be

1738
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 2: that one. It be that one great aun't you don't

1739
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 2: even recognize the ship, right, Like, you really gonna walk

1740
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: past me and I say hi? You like I have

1741
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 2: no idea who you are.

1742
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: They called to you about your whole government name, but

1743
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: I guess you know me, okay, right.

1744
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 2: Sorry to this man like I've been known you since

1745
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 2: she was just small. That's another one. Just Daren poured

1746
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 2: that out on my knees this week. She just couldn't

1747
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 2: wait to tell her. When you was just tying, I

1748
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 2: was like, oh Lord Jesus.

1749
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: It was the purpose behind the story was.

1750
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: I was like, lately, you're at that age now everybody,

1751
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 2: because lady's a very tall girl and so now everything's

1752
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: gonna be. Oh, lady, look, I.

1753
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 1: Remember when you was just my first time ever, okay,

1754
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: my first time.

1755
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 2: You couldn't wait, you couldn't.

1756
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't no purpose. It's okay.

1757
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 2: You like to be old. You've been trying to be

1758
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 2: old your whole life. It's the only way. So I

1759
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 2: don't know why you're in denial about this ship. I

1760
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 2: knew you were gonna do it when we walked in

1761
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,839
Speaker 2: the house. Here she go, I be old, oh baby,

1762
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 2: And then she told Karen. Then she was talking to

1763
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 2: lady like, and I know we old son. And then

1764
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: Layla was like, I don't think like y'all ain't old.

1765
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: And I was like, she can't wait to be old.

1766
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 2: Just give it, just give it this, Just call her old.

1767
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 2: Uh Gil says, when that when calling that other family

1768
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 2: y'all ate yet? Yes, oh yes, oh, when you're doing

1769
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 2: multiple trips or you just yeah, you called y'all ate yet,

1770
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, come on, come, we got played.

1771
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: We ready over here. Yeah, And that's how you have

1772
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: a family that you have enough food for the whole

1773
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: weekend because y'all went to three houses and you know

1774
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 1: what the next one is. I'm not cooking when we

1775
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: get home. I'm not cooking this weekend. That's that's when

1776
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: people everybody get home from all the mother fucking plates.

1777
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 1: Don't ask me for no food?

1778
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 2: Is insert name here coming? That's a good one too.

1779
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 2: Definitely want to know who are gonna be there, and lastly,

1780
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,839
Speaker 2: who's able to take a salad? You know she's pregnant?

1781
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: Right? Oh?

1782
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 2: No, man, you got a messy family.

1783
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: Hard but this is that? That is that your new

1784
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: boyfriend slash girlfriend slash significan another you're bringing another one

1785
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: up in here.

1786
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 2: Hard head make a soft ass. In my day, we

1787
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 2: used to have saying no romance without finance and now

1788
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: remember and then tells a story that last one, that

1789
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 2: last one I've seen. Uh, the hard head makes the

1790
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 2: soft ass is not a Thanksgiving saying. That's just a

1791
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: black saying. I feel like that could happen any day.

1792
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 2: And you know she's pregnant, right, it's definitely your family messy.

1793
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Who wrote down something from black Twitter?

1794
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 2: Right? Your family?

1795
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: Your family gonna be on what that Thanksgiving the clap

1796
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: back you're not supposed to do. And every time they

1797
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: do the Thanksgiving clap back, I'd be like all y'all

1798
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: niggas lye because they none of y'all going to jail

1799
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 1: and none of your family members going to jail from

1800
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: some of the fight bringing.

1801
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 2: Out that's somebody's messy Annie. Yeah, all right. Lastly, we

1802
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 2: got some emails to talk about. Best of Christmas A

1803
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 2: ride This is from Press Still says that after credit

1804
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 2: jingles or hilarious. Thanks Preston, thank you, appreciate you. Let's

1805
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 2: see Avocado Colorado says Rod Christmas song ad Bruh, I'm dead.

1806
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 2: I thought KTG averages were hilarious, but.

1807
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: You took it to a new level. Love it.

1808
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Avocado Colorado. You know, try to do a

1809
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 2: little something different every once in a while, and I'm

1810
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 2: glad y'all were digging it. Uh And nobody can do.

1811
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 2: You know, I'll never try to do what KTG does

1812
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 2: because nobody can do angry Like I'm trying to get

1813
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 2: you this deal? What is wrong with you? Like Keith Maley,

1814
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 2: nobody can.

1815
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that angry deal. But you're gonna get

1816
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 1: that deal.

1817
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 2: Though, by the end of the read, I'm always like,

1818
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 2: should I get the magic phones? I'm sorry, I didn't

1819
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 2: mean no disrespect no disrespect. I didn't know I wasn't

1820
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 2: living my best life.

1821
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 1: I should I purchase him and have him sent to you,

1822
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 1: right So?

1823
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 2: But nah, I love their ad reages too, man. And

1824
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,679
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I definitely like we like doing live id

1825
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 2: reads because to me, they're the most fun.

1826
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: They are.

1827
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 2: Also like they they give you a chance to be

1828
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 2: unique and different. And thank y' all the people that

1829
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 2: use the code and the people that enjoyed the commercials

1830
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 2: and gave us feedback on it, because it just gives

1831
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: me more ideas to do other stuff in the future.

1832
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, it does. And for the mandscape, it

1833
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: ain't just made for men. It's made for everybody. And

1834
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: I know, you know, we we've been promoting for men,

1835
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,120
Speaker 1: but it's literally made for anybody. But like this, if

1836
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 1: you got hell down there, it's made for you, That's true.

1837
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 2: David writes Dear Rod and Karen seven minutes and forty

1838
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 2: eight seconds to the episode. I had to pausely type

1839
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: out this email episode twenty four to forty nine. How

1840
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 2: dare miss Easye if that's her real name? I think

1841
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 2: he meane ede slander my good name in order to

1842
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 2: defend such an outland disestablishment while I admire her determination

1843
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 2: to not equivocate on her Arby's opinion. It is misgotted.

1844
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 2: If Arby's is as good as she claims, shouldn't every

1845
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 2: item on the menu be flames? Right right? Her thing was,

1846
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 2: you haven't tried the items that are the flames yet.

1847
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 2: It's like, now, what kind of restaurant has items that

1848
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 2: ain't flames? Sound like a whack one. I've never heard

1849
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 2: anyone complain about this with Chick fil A's mean you

1850
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 2: only their politics. Oh yeah, that's true, But trust me,

1851
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 2: you don't want to hear those people. They'll lie and

1852
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 2: tell you that the food not good at so. I

1853
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe it's different in different locations, but the food,

1854
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 2: the quality of the Chick fil A has never been

1855
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 2: the problem down here. It's always just they politics. Upon

1856
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 2: hearing both the response from Miss Barnes and E and

1857
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 2: Miss E, I decided to conduct more research and purchase

1858
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 2: one of their so called high dollar menu items during

1859
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 2: peak lunchtime hours. Rod cue the music. I don't know

1860
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 2: which music. Again, I was unimpressed by the taste of

1861
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 2: their meats. Oh, I don't know about music, but I'll

1862
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 2: play this.

1863
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:58,480
Speaker 1: I've been right about.

1864
01:37:58,280 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: All of that.

1865
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: We've been right about all of that.

1866
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, mm hm that makes me that that kills

1867
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 2: me upon hearing both the respines. Oh yeah, so I

1868
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 2: was unimpressed by the taste of their quote unquote meets

1869
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:23,799
Speaker 2: the meats lack seasoning. Perhaps Arby's in Fairville had budget

1870
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 2: cuts because no one bothers to eat there. In the meantime,

1871
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 2: both Easy Eve and Miss Barnes will be hearing from

1872
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 2: our lawyer regarding this degregious defamation of my character. Oh

1873
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 2: and if the rb CEO is cutting y'all check for

1874
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 2: false advertised little brother. No, this paralegal shit don't pay

1875
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 2: me enough. I'll let y'all know if we ever get

1876
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 2: that check. Oh, y'all definitely hear a total change of

1877
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 2: tone on the show. We're gonna have all the meats

1878
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 2: We're like, brought to you by Arby's, the most delicious

1879
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 2: meats in the world. They got the meats like I

1880
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 2: can't wait to sell out. Speaking of checks, can we

1881
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 2: get some more black capitalism please? Oh yeah, I do

1882
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 2: have have articles I save, I just haven't been using them.

1883
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 2: Please feature E v E and Miss Barnes because of

1884
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 2: how much they selling out to the white man over

1885
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 2: this arbist nonsense. Right, it's not even black owned. I

1886
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 2: bet they racist and prejudice too. Oh.

1887
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:29,879
Speaker 1: I hope they not know. I went like, look to everybody,

1888
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: I went too far.

1889
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 2: I take that. Backs is like, we just sell the meats.

1890
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: That's all we're doing.

1891
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 2: A reason be open on Sundays. I know they're good people.

1892
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that was too much, and I apologize to

1893
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 2: y'all and I order a big beef makes me out

1894
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 2: of whatever y'all have there. I hope you and your

1895
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 2: family have a lot of lovely Thanksgiving. Thanks David, Thank

1896
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 2: you David, And I'm sorry they did you like that?

1897
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: Mister Spaan right sing shout up, mister span.

1898
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 2: The spand Report podcast. I'm just now getting a chance

1899
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 2: to listen episode twenty four to forty eight where you

1900
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 2: Guys talk, where you guys got to talking about the

1901
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 2: release of the new COVID pills as an additional means

1902
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 2: to treat and get rid of it. And I wish

1903
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Speaker 2: I had the same level hopefulness that Karen hasks turned

1904
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,919
Speaker 2: issues only because I feel like it's unless it's mandated,

1905
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Speaker 2: it will be treated the same way the shots are

1906
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Speaker 2: being treated now. It seems as it seems as though

1907
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 2: the mandates are the only thing that's going to help

1908
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Speaker 2: this process along. My company sent us an email last

1909
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Speaker 2: week stating that they would be following Biden's vaccine executive

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Speaker 2: order because as utility workers, we're technically a federal contractor,

1911
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Speaker 2: and because of that, people are gonna have to get

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Speaker 2: vaccinated by the twenty second of December or perhaps find

1913
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Speaker 2: a new job at the turn of the year.

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Speaker 1: Come on.

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Speaker 2: They even offered us seven hundred and fifty dollars bonuses

1916
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Speaker 2: for showing a proof of vaccination.

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Speaker 1: Oh, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know.

1919
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Speaker 1: I guet sell hundredred dollars for a motherfucker a free shot?

1920
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Speaker 1: Here you go.

1921
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you turn it down?

1922
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: Just based off of that?

1923
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 2: You gotta have some real hang ups about it. Uh,

1924
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 2: And I just shook my head as I listened to

1925
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 2: niggas in the locker room arguing over why they shouldn't

1926
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 2: have to take it and how unfair it is. They

1927
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 2: were doing a lot of tough talking, but reality was

1928
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 2: sitting in. They were going to have to get vaccinated.

1929
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 2: They wanted to stay here, and quite a few of

1930
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Speaker 2: them started making it up, making it up in their

1931
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 2: commands a couple of days later to go ahead and

1932
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Speaker 2: get vaccinated. Fast forward, two days after we got the

1933
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: initial email from the company CEO about the following the mandate,

1934
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 2: we got a new one stating that the Body and

1935
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 2: Administration was given an exception to utility workers, so we

1936
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't be mandated to get the vaccine vaccinated, but for

1937
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 2: those who chose not to get vaxxed, they would have

1938
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 2: to submit it weekly testing. That's seven hundred and fifty

1939
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 2: dollars bonus for those who were vaxed. Were still on

1940
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 2: the table though, and every last one of the dudes

1941
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 2: who said they would go and get vaccinated said, fuck it,

1942
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 2: they have to do I guess they don't have to

1943
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 2: do the shit now and would just submit to the

1944
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 2: testing at this point too. Yeah. I wonder if there's

1945
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 2: any people that the peer pressure is to say I

1946
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 2: ain't gonna get it, but then they like, low key

1947
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 2: get it for that seven fifty.

1948
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 1: I think some of them do.

1949
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven fifty, cause it's like a PlayStation and some games.

1950
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,759
Speaker 2: At this point, no matter no matter how much information

1951
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 2: you give them, there's a misinformation campaign giving them just

1952
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 2: as much and it's almost becoming a lost cause talking

1953
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 2: to them. Sorry for the long email, but I just

1954
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 2: want folks to know just how far we had to

1955
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 2: get people on board to help bring it into this

1956
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 2: damn pandemic. Great show as always, and I'll talk to

1957
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 2: you gods. SOMs fan.

1958
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand what you was just saying. I

1959
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:38,480
Speaker 1: think for some people they're still gonna argue against it regardless,

1960
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 1: but it's like they're trying to I personally think that

1961
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to make it where we don't have any

1962
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 1: excuses because some people will never admit they just pray

1963
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 1: the shot. So we're gonna make it well, you could

1964
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: take a pill. We're gonna make it where you can

1965
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 1: shoot up your nose like like like we're gonna do

1966
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: all these other means. Shit, I don't care if they

1967
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 1: make it where they drop it in your ear, whatever

1968
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 1: it takes, we gonna make it so you will be

1969
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: able to do something so that when we turn the

1970
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: switch and say we're moving on without you, When we

1971
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: turn the switch and say now, uh, coronavirus is a

1972
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 1: pre existing condition, and we flip the switch and you

1973
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 1: know you're paying smoker's rate, Well, we do all that shit.

1974
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be all on you when we flip the

1975
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: switch and guess what, the shots ain't free no mo.

1976
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: When we when we start implementing these things because we

1977
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: want to move on as a society, it's gonna be

1978
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: all on you. When when when you be like, oh shit,

1979
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 1: I guess I go get the shot. You walk up

1980
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: in there and they're gonna be like, yeah, we're gonna

1981
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 1: to run this through your insurance. Now when you walk

1982
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: up there like yeah, it's one hundred dollar of Copey

1983
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 1: or whatever. When you walk up in there like yeah,

1984
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 1: uh we uh, you're gonna have to, you know, pay

1985
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 1: us the full cost of this shot. When that ship

1986
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 1: start happening, they're gonna they're making it where you don't

1987
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 1: have an excuse to blame nobody but yourself. Uh.

1988
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 2: He also said the correction real quick and my last

1989
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 2: email ill said the Biden administration I made an exemption

1990
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 2: for utility workers in regard to the vaccine man date. However,

1991
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 2: I learned later that the executive order was paused by

1992
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 2: the courts. It's just the way my company worded the

1993
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 2: email and when they send it out to us, that

1994
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 2: made it seem that way more bad. So I guess

1995
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Speaker 2: there's not an exemption. It's just a court case pending.

1996
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 1: So guess what until that's lifted, just gonna have to

1997
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: get that shot.

1998
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 2: Uh, well, depends a lot of times. Court cases like

1999
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 2: that will stay the order, so that basically until they

2000
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 2: reach a conclusion in the courts, you don't have to

2001
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 2: get the shot.

2002
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so okay, So they don't let the rule

2003
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 1: go forward and then decide they're like, well, the state

2004
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 1: means everything can stopped, and then once the decision is made,

2005
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 1: that's when you decide to or not.

2006
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of times it's how that's how it

2007
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 2: normally and should typically work. The only recent exception I

2008
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 2: can think of is the Texas abortion law, where the

2009
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 2: Supreme Court did the opposite of that for like one

2010
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,560
Speaker 2: of the first times ever where basically the law that

2011
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 2: violates constitutional rights stays on the book in books until

2012
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court here's the case. And so that's why Texas.

2013
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 2: That's why everybody's like, this is unprecedented. It's a takeover

2014
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, all that stuff. Covid toes John Wrightson

2015
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Speaker 2: hi Rod just wanted to chime in as soon as

2016
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 2: as someone who sort of had COVID toes. Chill blains

2017
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 2: is a medical condition where your extremities get really cold

2018
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 2: and then they warm up too fast, like a hot shower.

2019
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 2: The surge of blood damagees cells and triggers and immune response.

2020
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 2: It's common in cold, wet places, and I think it's

2021
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 2: mentioned in a couple of Charles Dickens' novels. The very

2022
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 2: same week that we shut down in March twenty twenty

2023
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 2: due to COVID arriving in the US, I had this

2024
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 2: happen with my toes during a really cold week after

2025
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:52,600
Speaker 2: being outside coaching at night. I went to a pediatrist

2026
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 2: and got my blood tested for goalt and other possibilities,

2027
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 2: but everything was negative and nobody could figure it out

2028
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 2: until finally a colleague of my pediatrist mentioned chill blains,

2029
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 2: which seems like the COVID. Chill blains usually resolve yourself

2030
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 2: aft a few weeks, but may come back and they

2031
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 2: can do long term permanent damage in worst case scenarios.

2032
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 2: About a month after my toes back to normal, the

2033
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 2: studies from Italy started showing that COVID toes are popping

2034
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 2: up around the kids and adults who no other COVID symptoms,

2035
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 2: so my doctor encouraged me to get COVID anybody test,

2036
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 2: which came back negative. The antibody tests at that time

2037
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 2: weren't very accurate, and now I'm vaccinated, so I'll never

2038
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 2: know whether I had chill blaines from unusually cold weather

2039
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 2: like mostly or COVID toes, but either what most likely

2040
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 2: okay or COVID toes. But either way they're excrucinatingly painful

2041
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 2: and I could barely walk for a week and not

2042
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 2: to take several days off work. Is definitely the kind

2043
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,719
Speaker 2: of thing that could really mess up a career professional

2044
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 2: athlete like Aaron Rodgers. Even if that's all you get

2045
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 2: from COVID, it's plenty of reason to get vaccinated. Yeah,

2046
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 2: And like I said, I believe Aaron Rodgers cleared it

2047
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,640
Speaker 2: up and he just has a fractured toe, which is

2048
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 2: also crazy that he's going to play Sunday, but yeah,

2049
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 2: I guess he can do that. But he called it

2050
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 2: COVID toes. The media was like, damn, this said he

2051
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 2: got COVID toes. What the fuck like, that's a real thing,

2052
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 2: And then he made then he mocked the media by

2053
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 2: showing his foot, like it's just a fracture toe.

2054
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 1: But Jill said it right in misinformation, how you gonna

2055
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 1: get a dinner on information? And likes? Something wrong with

2056
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 1: them for repeating what you said.

2057
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 2: But that's the kind of problem that we're in right now.

2058
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,440
Speaker 2: We're dealing with people that are contrarians, put their masquerading

2059
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 2: like their thoughtful people, and uh, everything in their mind

2060
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 2: proves their point. So he's like, I did misinformation and

2061
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,719
Speaker 2: y'all believe me. Doesn't that prove this is all fake

2062
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 2: and all the hype around coronaviruss this and that, And

2063
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 2: it's like, no, it doesn't prove that. It all just

2064
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 2: proves you're still a liar. Ps. When you read that

2065
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 2: story about the single pisson in the guy's mouth of

2066
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 2: the concert, my first thought was that might be the

2067
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,719
Speaker 2: same guy in the Alfonso Riviera video that screens. Yeah,

2068
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,760
Speaker 2: they mentioned at the mention of white pusson PPS. I

2069
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 2: love the Sisters in Law podcast that Rintenhouse and Arbury

2070
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 2: analysis was really helpful. Subscribing to them for sure, chairs John, Yes,

2071
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 2: this is law.

2072
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 1: Very educational because they actually take because I listened with

2073
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 1: Roger Roger Wick in the car, they actually take a

2074
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 1: lot of I'm not trying to be fun of y'all,

2075
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 1: a lot of very complex shit that happens in law

2076
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,560
Speaker 1: and break it down where you be like, Okay, I

2077
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 1: see you. It's almost like, Okay, I see why they

2078
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: came to that verdict. Okay, what you're saying makes sense. Okay,

2079
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 1: And you can still be angry, you can still be upset,

2080
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 1: but you have a better understanding of how they came

2081
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: to certain conclusions, regardless if you agree with them or not.

2082
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: It opened up my eyes to how the system is

2083
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 1: run because the average person is not a lawyer, so

2084
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 1: you don't know them big as words in them. You know,

2085
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 1: a thousand page do you know, descending arguments and shit

2086
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know how none of that works.

2087
01:48:54,880 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just really like that show is it's informative,

2088
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:05,680
Speaker 2: but it's also like depending on how which guests are there,

2089
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 2: which women are hosting that week. But these are very

2090
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 2: accomplished lawyers and prosecutors and defense attorneys. They've seen every

2091
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 2: side of these things. When they don't agree, it's still

2092
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,879
Speaker 2: very civil because I think that's part of the profession.

2093
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 2: And they're just so smart and they're so and they're

2094
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:33,599
Speaker 2: still to me, they still feel like they they are

2095
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 2: on the side of fairness and justice, Like they don't

2096
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 2: do the thing of like, well, I'm a conservatives, so

2097
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 2: I have to argue against you, Like they're just on

2098
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 2: the side of like what's right for people. And yeah,

2099
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 2: and I and I and I loved like how they

2100
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 2: analyze stuff and a lot of times they prepare me

2101
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 2: for shit. So like I didn't follow dealing Ruth shit

2102
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 2: pretty much at all. I just couldn't. It wasn't for me.

2103
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 2: I totally understand the respect people that chose to follow it,

2104
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 2: and I respect most of the people that were hurt

2105
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 2: by you know, especially if you're black, But it wasn't

2106
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,720
Speaker 2: one of my things. That was one of the ones.

2107
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:13,680
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, not that one. But they

2108
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 2: talked about the machinations and the judges rulings and stuff

2109
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 2: like for I think too, like a couple of weeks

2110
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 2: like as the trial went on, and to me, they

2111
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 2: were preparing me for the like yeah, he probably getting

2112
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 2: off and here's the reasoning why. Because I kept thinking,

2113
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 2: like there was that one charge with the gun, and

2114
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:37,560
Speaker 2: I was like, that's pretty much nowhere around it. And

2115
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 2: while they were like, yeah, the ruling and the logic

2116
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 2: of it kind of contradicts itself and doesn't make sense.

2117
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 2: But without that charge, there's not much to hold them,

2118
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 2: all right, And so that was I appreciate them for

2119
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 2: stuff like that because I don't like consuming daily content

2120
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 2: about trials and do stuff like that. I couldn't even

2121
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 2: do it with my arby, the killers of my Arvory

2122
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 2: and the trial all over that. I couldn't do it anyway,

2123
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 2: U And the shout out to the people that did,

2124
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 2: Like I said, this is literally not me trying to

2125
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 2: be on some I'm betting y'all, y'all was wrong with

2126
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 2: child type shit. I think we all make these choices

2127
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 2: every day, especially as black people, about the ones we're like,

2128
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it and the ones that were like,

2129
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: I got to see everything about this, And uh, it's

2130
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 2: been a long time since I felt that way about

2131
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 2: any trial dealing with racial justice that I wanted to

2132
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 2: follow the daily macinations. I honestly can't think of the

2133
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 2: last time, and uh, you know, and I just can't.

2134
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't consume that kind of shit is entertainment. It

2135
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,759
Speaker 2: is called sisters in law, right, Yeah, it's called sisters

2136
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 2: in law. Wow, what's wrong.

2137
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 1: You know they're trying to find it.

2138
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, sisters in law. Let me look on my Spotify

2139
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 2: to make sure because I'm you know, I'm following them.

2140
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,879
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it's hashtag sisters in law. My bad. Hashtag

2141
01:51:56,000 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 2: sisters in law are one word. Uh so that might

2142
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 2: help you if you if it's not coming up, and.

2143
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:05,560
Speaker 1: I want I gave it, but I wanted to be

2144
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: sure I sent the right one. That's why I asked.

2145
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 2: But yeah, that it's uh Joy advanced Jill Winebanks, Bart

2146
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 2: McQuay and Kimberly Atkins and they do such great work

2147
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 2: and I think their episodes come out every Saturday, and

2148
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 2: so it's a favorite. It's a go to a mine

2149
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 2: on the weekends to kind of, you know, think about

2150
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 2: the things happened to the week. All right, Two more boy,

2151
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 2: Two more emails. Dave Chappelle's induction of jay Z speech.

2152
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 2: This is from our girl, Profess l C. H Ah,

2153
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 2: Linda Harris, Daris Roderick. So this was just for me, Karen,

2154
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 2: see yourself out. I know Dave Chappelle stubborn, old black

2155
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 2: ass man. Antics are tarnishing his image and legacy, but

2156
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 2: I just rewatched his induction speech of jay Z. And seriously,

2157
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 2: I think of you, my brothers and others who made

2158
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: a way out of no way. I even think of

2159
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 2: me and my professional while being black in America's naseas

2160
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 2: as it looks, how brilliant is that line, no matter

2161
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 2: who you look at, from President Obama to my arbery,

2162
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 2: it's a devastating fit or this American pot is not

2163
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 2: made out of apples, is made out of whatever you

2164
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 2: can get your fucking hands on. She put fing come

2165
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 2: on truth. She wrote, I don't know if you watched

2166
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:20,600
Speaker 2: it or won't because you're pretty done with him, but

2167
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 2: I've linked it below. It's a reminder, not that any

2168
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 2: of us need it, of Dave's brilliance and as someone

2169
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:28,760
Speaker 2: who loves stubborn old black ass man, even if I

2170
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 2: cannot take or sometimes loathe them and their refusal to

2171
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 2: be anything, but I reminded how much we want them

2172
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 2: to return to their former greatness, or at least try

2173
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,759
Speaker 2: to reach it before they die filled with resentments, regrets,

2174
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:43,520
Speaker 2: and lost opportunities. I dare you and your wife happy holidays,

2175
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:47,759
Speaker 2: yours ed tbgwt lnd' Charlomagne Harris, and she did include

2176
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 2: a link to it, and I did watch it. I'm

2177
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 2: not boycotting. Dave would cancel him. It's not even for me.

2178
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 1: It's not so like.

2179
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 2: I've never listened to this nigga talk about anything. I'm

2180
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 2: not that kind of emotional person. It could be the

2181
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 2: gen action. I don't know, but so I get other

2182
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 2: people that that's the way they protect their emotions and

2183
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 2: not knocking it. But it was never on the table

2184
01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 2: for me to be like, I'll never hear anything this

2185
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:21,719
Speaker 2: man says.

2186
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: You know.

2187
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:29,600
Speaker 2: That being said, I hadn't heard this yet until you

2188
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 2: sent the link, and so I watched it, and yeah,

2189
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 2: it was good. I mean, he's basically talking about race.

2190
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 2: He was very funny. He starts with a piece of

2191
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 2: paper saying I like to apologize to and then he's like,

2192
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 2: I'll just plan, I'll just play, and then he does

2193
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 2: the induction speech. I mean, you know, that's the thing.

2194
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 2: I'll never say that somebody's not talented, brilliant, genius just

2195
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: because I disagree with them. And I think because to me,

2196
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 2: if I say something like that, that as a statement

2197
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 2: of fact, you know what I'm saying, Like, I believe,

2198
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 2: like I'm an honorable person. I believe when I said

2199
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 2: that you going back and being repugnant or something like that,

2200
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm you know, having an opinion I disagree with. I'm

2201
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 2: not gonna ever lie to myself because that's what I

2202
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 2: think people really do. I'm not gonna lie to myself

2203
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 2: because I have more integrity than that's what you did

2204
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 2: to just yeah, to try to erase this person and

2205
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 2: everything positive that they've ever done. Everything I enjoyed. I

2206
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 2: just you know, but as a human being, you know,

2207
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 2: it's a little bit disappointing, you know.

2208
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 1: I think for you that's more what it is than anything.

2209
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little disappointing because, uh it's not like

2210
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 2: I know this nigga to be disappointed in him personally,

2211
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 2: but just as a fan of the work, it's like, oh,

2212
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 2: I don't feel this work is at the level before

2213
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 2: and that's it. But yeah, man, I mean, Dave's one

2214
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 2: of those people I could listen to, uh talk about

2215
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 2: shit a lot of time. I haven't really checked out

2216
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 2: his podcast, but I bet it's good. The one he's

2217
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 2: doing with most death and Tyler quality, I bet it's good. Yeah,

2218
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 2: I just think he got stuck in a rut on

2219
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 2: some of this shit, but yeah, I checked it out,

2220
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 2: and honestly, man, I love jay Z and I really

2221
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 2: thought a lot of the ship he took over that

2222
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 2: NFL shit was very unfair, and uh, you know that's

2223
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 2: something that a lot of people didn't like that I

2224
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 2: was saying those things and uh, oh, well you know

2225
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 2: that like I got my stubborn black ass man shit too,

2226
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, okay, well, y'all niggas don't

2227
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 2: like me, I'm getting old anyway, fuck it. That's you know,

2228
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 2: sometimes I just don't want to be with the crowd

2229
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 2: because I literally think the crowd is wrong. And that

2230
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 2: was one of the times I think the crowd was

2231
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 2: wrong and very short sighted. And you can tell because

2232
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:55,360
Speaker 2: these niggas was applying like shit when jay Z got

2233
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame because they didn't mean not

2234
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 2: a goddamn word they said two years earlier. They didn't mean.

2235
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 2: Some people, if you're lucky in life and you're good

2236
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 2: at what you do, some people become institutions. And when

2237
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 2: you become an institution, people think you're not human anymore.

2238
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 2: They look at you like the sun, the moon, the earth.

2239
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 2: They just expect it to always be there. And when

2240
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 2: you expect something to always be there, you can curse

2241
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 2: the moon, you can curse the sun, you can curse

2242
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 2: the earth because it don't matter, because the earth is

2243
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 2: gonna be there tomorrow whether you curse it or not.

2244
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 2: And I think that's how people feel about someone like

2245
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 2: jay Z to Dave Chappelle, all these people, is like

2246
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:41,400
Speaker 2: we get to be mad at them, but we expect

2247
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 2: this person to not feel it and to just continue

2248
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 2: to exist and ignore us. And so I think seeing

2249
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 2: him get his flowers while he's still alive, get into

2250
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 2: this illustrious space. And for Dave to make the point

2251
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 2: that jay Z is still hours as black people in

2252
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 2: hip hop culture, that's a big point because it's because

2253
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 2: it's a thing that happens with all this white accolades, right,

2254
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 2: award shows and ship is this idea of like, well,

2255
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 2: you know, Prince transcended race and shit, and it's like, no, nigga,

2256
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 2: he has no such thing. You just like a nigga,

2257
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 2: now right, figure it out, go to therapy. But you like, you,

2258
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 2: like one of us, that we didn't transcend shit. You

2259
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 2: transcended your bigotry, right, Whiteness transcended its racism. The only motherfuckers.

2260
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 2: It's ever supposed to be in there, y'all just start

2261
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 2: letting hip hop people in the fucking Hall of Fame

2262
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 2: for rock and roll. But it's it's it's us transcending. No,

2263
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 2: it's you transcending. So I appreciated the point that he made,

2264
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah, I thought it was very good, very poignant,

2265
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 2: and I thank you for sending it. If you're listening,

2266
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, I have tremendous respect for or Professor l

2267
01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:05,760
Speaker 2: H and one of my favorite people. So anytimes she

2268
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 2: writes saying, I'm always give it a you know, give

2269
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 2: it a chance. But yeah, I'm not. I'm not there

2270
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 2: with Chappelle where where it's like this nigga talking to

2271
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:19,520
Speaker 2: like I'm there. Maybe I'll get you right. That's just

2272
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 2: not my general disposition to be like that. Lastly, we

2273
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 2: get a last one from Lakita, who says general love, DearS,

2274
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:29,000
Speaker 2: Bob and k Boogie. This is a generic email that

2275
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 2: I've been meaning to sit down and type for such

2276
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 2: a long time, but after losing my family member the

2277
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 2: COVID the other day, it reminds me to give people

2278
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 2: the flowers while this here to accept them. Yeah, definitely, Sorry,

2279
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 2: for your loss. I recently had a thought, if nothing

2280
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 2: lasts forever, that holds what that holds true for the

2281
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 2: joy and the laughter I get to share with you guys.

2282
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 2: Y'all are a big part of my life these days,

2283
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 2: and the folks in the chat are my internet cousins.

2284
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 2: And the Black Autists is legit one of my favorite

2285
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 2: parts of the day, especially pregames balls Deep because behind

2286
01:59:55,720 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 2: the paywall tvg WT is the shiit. Anyone who doesn't

2287
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 2: get to see our problematic cousin in his element is

2288
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 2: truly missing out. I'm gonna be so sad when this

2289
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 2: podcast ends, but I'd be perfectly happy knowing y'all are happy. Yeah,

2290
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll tell you what. I'm not playing the

2291
02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 2: end of anytime soon, so we have a great time.

2292
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 2: I can't believe I make money this way, that we

2293
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:26,240
Speaker 2: come here and talk shit and money just comes in

2294
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 2: for us doing this.

2295
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:28,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

2296
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 2: There's so many shows that wish they could do what

2297
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 2: we're doing, and there's almost zero shows that did it

2298
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 2: the way we did it. I agreed, you know what

2299
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:40,880
Speaker 2: I mean. No co sign, no label, nobody fucking telling

2300
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 2: us what we can and can't do. No engineers, no studio.

2301
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 1: Just us. We did it.

2302
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 2: It's just our black ass opinions and and and people

2303
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 2: like it enough, just really stick with us through the

2304
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 2: good and the bad and uh, and people love us

2305
02:00:58,040 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 2: for it.

2306
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 1: Shut out to oh. We keep saying like the do

2307
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:04,480
Speaker 1: y'all make the boat to float? It's literally y'all.

2308
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many opportunities. I think if we didn't

2309
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 2: have the money, I would have considered that. I that

2310
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:12,920
Speaker 2: we've been able to look at each other and be like,

2311
02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:15,800
Speaker 2: this isn't the right fit for us. And it's only

2312
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 2: because we have y'all. I know you hear this all

2313
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:20,520
Speaker 2: the time, but listen to you guys really made me

2314
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 2: gros spotted at my inner transphobia and really examined it.

2315
02:01:23,400 --> 02:01:25,240
Speaker 2: One of my boys, one of my best friends, said

2316
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 2: to me, if my man cheated on me with a

2317
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 2: he slashed she that nigga definitely came. I'm a person

2318
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 2: who love, who loves to watch somebody to death until

2319
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 2: they see their own errors just watter until she said, Okay, damn, bitch,

2320
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 2: you get on my nerves. I feel like that's pretty

2321
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 2: much my whole vibe by the way I feel like

2322
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 2: whenever I do decide to get, you know, to talk

2323
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:49,880
Speaker 2: to somebody because I don't. I'm not gonna lie. I

2324
02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:52,760
Speaker 2: don't always pick that path. There's a lot of times

2325
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 2: somebody say somethingingneran shit, and I'm just like, Okay, this

2326
02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 2: moment will pass and we can get back to whatever

2327
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:01,160
Speaker 2: we were doing. Sometimes as I will, and I know

2328
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:03,640
Speaker 2: when they can see because I normally don't say it

2329
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 2: about something that unless I'm pretty sure the logic is right,

2330
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 2: and normally it's just kind of like, well, I know

2331
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 2: you're right, but damn, and it's like, all right, I'll

2332
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 2: take that. Laugh my ass off. It was important to

2333
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,280
Speaker 2: her to her for it was important to me for

2334
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 2: her to see how she was wrong. She hates that

2335
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 2: quality of me, She asked me a few months ago,

2336
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:25,560
Speaker 2: why are you always trying to break down my conspiracy theories?

2337
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell her because she's my friends and I can't

2338
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 2: have her walking around saying, don't shit right, use your

2339
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 2: brain still starting shill. You got to take care of

2340
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:36,080
Speaker 2: each other. Many of us tell you that Karen is

2341
02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 2: our favorite, and we know she's always yours, but a

2342
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 2: larger large majority of your audience is black women, and

2343
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:44,880
Speaker 2: Karen equal us. Her fears concerns, joys, et cetera are

2344
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 2: often representative of how we feel. And thank you for

2345
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:52,120
Speaker 2: marrying her. I mean, you know I'm thankful as well.

2346
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 1: I am thankful too, and and in fact I chose him.

2347
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

2348
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 1: I knew what I've owned.

2349
02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:05,080
Speaker 2: That's true. You ask me out. One of my favorite

2350
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 2: parts of this podcast is that y'all are respect for

2351
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 2: each other and don't talk over each other because I

2352
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:11,680
Speaker 2: cannot stand it. I cut that shit off with the

2353
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 2: quickness because it starts to sound like a clusterfuck. But

2354
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:16,839
Speaker 2: that might be some personal shit. L You're always encouraging,

2355
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 2: caring to say her piece.

2356
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I really I really appreciate my husband.

2357
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:29,520
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where regardless of what

2358
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 1: walk of life that you're in, you can always have privilege,

2359
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:38,880
Speaker 1: even though you don't always see it. And I didn't

2360
02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:43,200
Speaker 1: realize how much privilege that I had being married to

2361
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 1: my husband because my husband is very I don'tmost say

2362
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 1: hippie dippy, but he's really laid back. When it comes

2363
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:51,480
Speaker 1: to me, he's like, that's what you want to do?

2364
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:51,840
Speaker 2: Do it?

2365
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 1: You know when it comes to my hair, you know,

2366
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 1: he done been with me through it all through the

2367
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:02,640
Speaker 1: fingerwaves with Jeb Curle, through the you know something Pepper

2368
02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 1: cuts through the through the tourny Braxton's you know, through

2369
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:09,120
Speaker 1: the eighteen inch week, through the buns and he's like,

2370
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:10,720
Speaker 1: you want to cut it? You want to color it?

2371
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 1: He was like, you like it?

2372
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 2: I love it.

2373
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:16,040
Speaker 1: And I really do appreciate him because when I even

2374
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:17,920
Speaker 1: when I went natural and I did the big chop,

2375
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:21,800
Speaker 1: a lot of women would be like, you know, what

2376
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:25,160
Speaker 1: does your husband say? And I get offended. I'm looking like,

2377
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't care how he feels, you know, and they

2378
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:32,840
Speaker 1: look at like something's wrong with me, but saying, I

2379
02:04:32,920 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 1: don't care how he feels about my hair, you know,

2380
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:39,000
Speaker 1: And I think that I know that might sound simplistic,

2381
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 1: but hair can cause a lot of couples to fall

2382
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:46,160
Speaker 1: out and argue with and you know, and fuss and

2383
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:48,360
Speaker 1: things like that unless you know they're on the same

2384
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: page about those types of things. But my husband has

2385
02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 1: given me the freedom to just you know, do things

2386
02:04:53,560 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 1: and sometimes too.

2387
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:57,440
Speaker 2: Over the years.

2388
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:00,720
Speaker 1: On this particular show and shout out to the audience,

2389
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 1: y'all kind of encouraged me once I realized and particularly

2390
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:07,839
Speaker 1: black women started writing in going I love your voice, Karen.

2391
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:11,200
Speaker 1: You know you you take the way I feel and

2392
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 1: you kind of compress it into words that I don't

2393
02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:19,040
Speaker 1: know how to say. I started beginning to be more confident,

2394
02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 1: beginning to be more stronger in my voice, and you know,

2395
02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:25,840
Speaker 1: just me evolving and growing as a woman, doing this

2396
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:28,040
Speaker 1: in front of you guys for the past twelve years.

2397
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:33,080
Speaker 1: And so I realized too that for a lot of people,

2398
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm almost too outspoken, so they don't want to come

2399
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:39,640
Speaker 1: to me. So they kind of go at Roderick, you know,

2400
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, almost like to get me so he can

2401
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:45,000
Speaker 1: kind of quote unquote step in and get me to

2402
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 1: act right. But what is acting right in the marriage?

2403
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:47,920
Speaker 2: You know?

2404
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 1: So you know, it's one of these things. You know,

2405
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't control him, he don't control me. But a

2406
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 1: lot of people treat marriage and relationships like control. Like

2407
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, I got a point, You got a point.

2408
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm married to you. You are my lover. You know,

2409
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:02,720
Speaker 1: we we got to look each other in the faces

2410
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:05,640
Speaker 1: when the when these cameras go off, what do you

2411
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 1: do then? Like it's really fun to put on the show,

2412
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 1: but when all these lights and cameras and everything go off,

2413
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:13,560
Speaker 1: we got to look at each other, and I remembering

2414
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 1: what you said and you remembering what I said, and

2415
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:17,800
Speaker 1: then we got to have a real conversation off Mike.

2416
02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember one of the uh, I remember a

2417
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 2: couple of things. But there was this one woman that

2418
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 2: wrote in a long time ago, and it was this

2419
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 2: very mean thing about like I don't understand why he's

2420
02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 2: with her. He's dad da da da, and you know,

2421
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:40,520
Speaker 2: she's not reading all these books and shit. And I

2422
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck do the books have to

2423
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:46,640
Speaker 2: do with a fucking marriage, Niggas, We're not doing a

2424
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 2: book before. There's not a homework assignment, dude, we got

2425
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:53,240
Speaker 2: We're not in a fucking We're not in a steady group.

2426
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't want no homework, Oh my god.

2427
02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:01,440
Speaker 2: But and then you know, we have different responsibilities, different

2428
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:04,600
Speaker 2: shit we do during the day. Like it's just people

2429
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 2: so ridiculous. It's, oh my god, it's like, look what

2430
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:10,000
Speaker 2: these books got to deal with this puss it you

2431
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:12,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But no, it was. It was

2432
02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:16,120
Speaker 2: just so ridigulous. But you know, I think that's one

2433
02:07:16,160 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 2: of the things that has drawn people to us, is

2434
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 2: that we talk to each other with respect. It's to

2435
02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 2: the point where honestly they have that this is such

2436
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 2: a foreign thing to most people. They think is that

2437
02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:32,920
Speaker 2: we're wishy washy, or we're forcing each other to agree,

2438
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:37,000
Speaker 2: or when we when we start on one page and

2439
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:39,440
Speaker 2: you start on another page, or I start on one

2440
02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 2: page and you start on another page and those pages

2441
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 2: come together to understanding. They see that as look at

2442
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:47,960
Speaker 2: does she go back and down? She don't never have

2443
02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 2: no opinions or something like that. And I'm always like,

2444
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 2: what you just watched with civil discourse, ain't nobody in

2445
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:59,640
Speaker 2: this motherfucker force and nobody have no opinions period, Because

2446
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 2: the end of the day, most of the shit don't

2447
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:05,680
Speaker 2: matter what the fuck we think about Kyrie Irving, And

2448
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 2: even if we disagreed tremendously, it's not like we leave them,

2449
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:13,640
Speaker 2: Oh we the fuck divorced time now, Like it don't matter.

2450
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:15,960
Speaker 2: It's like what you're seeing is people going it don't

2451
02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:18,920
Speaker 2: ultimately matter. I'm not gonna be mad at you because

2452
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,680
Speaker 2: he didn't come to agreement on a fucking topic. And

2453
02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:26,800
Speaker 2: just in general, a lot I think a lot of

2454
02:08:26,840 --> 02:08:30,160
Speaker 2: people are just so used to this world of like

2455
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 2: harsh talking to people and harsh talking to each other.

2456
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:38,160
Speaker 1: And even the people that you love, like like just

2457
02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 1: nasty and just mean to people, and because they think

2458
02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:46,120
Speaker 1: that that is actually what they have their opinion to do. Back,

2459
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:49,640
Speaker 1: talk to me nicely, don't talk to me crazy, and

2460
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 1: don't talk to me any old kind of way, because

2461
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 1: that's the thing me and why just been lon over

2462
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:59,600
Speaker 1: Roger knows me personally, my personality and I know his personality.

2463
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:01,520
Speaker 1: And the way some of y'all talk to each other.

2464
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:03,920
Speaker 1: I would cust y'all smoth the fuck out, because y'all

2465
02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:05,040
Speaker 1: with each other nicely.

2466
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 2: She's still an aries, you know, y'all listen to her.

2467
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:12,160
Speaker 2: She's a passionate person. She's a cauldron, a hot fire, okay,

2468
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 2: ready to blow at any moment. And I'm just like

2469
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:17,480
Speaker 2: a bomb technician over here, you know, just cutting the

2470
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:19,880
Speaker 2: blue wire. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying not

2471
02:09:19,960 --> 02:09:23,080
Speaker 2: to sweat you know. Yeah, no, I'm just kidding. But

2472
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 2: in general, but not in general though, I think if

2473
02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:31,880
Speaker 2: some if if I was on here disrespectfully cutting you

2474
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:34,520
Speaker 2: off and belittling you and shit like that, I think

2475
02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:37,280
Speaker 2: people will receive it. But here's the thing, I realize

2476
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 2: everybody brings their own experience to what you're experiencing right now.

2477
02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:45,080
Speaker 2: None of the people listening are experiencing the same show

2478
02:09:45,120 --> 02:09:48,839
Speaker 2: at the same time. Depending on what trauma you've experienced,

2479
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 2: what relationships you've had, which ones worked out, which one's done,

2480
02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:57,240
Speaker 2: you're having completely different experiences about the same thing. So

2481
02:09:57,360 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 2: there's some people that are watching us and they're like, uh,

2482
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:06,000
Speaker 2: you know what, Uh the men in my life, they

2483
02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:10,120
Speaker 2: was manipulative and gas lighting and they would make it

2484
02:10:10,200 --> 02:10:12,280
Speaker 2: seem like they wanted the best for me, but really

2485
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 2: they was pieces of shit and they were cheating on

2486
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:16,880
Speaker 2: me and abuse towards me and controlling. And so they

2487
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:18,840
Speaker 2: listen to this and that's what they hear because they

2488
02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:22,400
Speaker 2: like the last part because then he said this, and

2489
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:24,440
Speaker 2: then she agreed, and that means he tricked her in

2490
02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:27,720
Speaker 2: their agreeing because she can't possibly mean that. Or you know,

2491
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:30,560
Speaker 2: the dudes that that have women issues with women, that

2492
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 2: hate women and shit, they listen this cuck ass nigga

2493
02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:36,680
Speaker 2: talking about some feminism and so oh so, so what

2494
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:39,160
Speaker 2: you can't take a joke? You know, they hear that

2495
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 2: shit and they think and I've watched some of their

2496
02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:45,080
Speaker 2: comments and there's always some this nigga trying to get

2497
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 2: that feminism money because they can't possibly believe that. I

2498
02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 2: just think, you know what, Fairness shouldn't be determined by

2499
02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:53,919
Speaker 2: whether the fuck you have a dick or of vagina,

2500
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 2: or what gender you identify as or what. Like reading

2501
02:10:57,280 --> 02:11:00,480
Speaker 2: a book won't hurt me at fucking forty three dog

2502
02:11:00,640 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 2: to learn some new shit, It won't. Oh no, all

2503
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 2: the concepts I had before, this's what I'm gonna do

2504
02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:10,160
Speaker 2: with them, you know. And so you have that shit,

2505
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:13,480
Speaker 2: you know, you got people that they used to seeing

2506
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 2: people fight, yes, and so when they hear us, yeah,

2507
02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:20,360
Speaker 2: and they think something wrong with us, like why aren't

2508
02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:24,160
Speaker 2: you passionately fighting each other with us? And that's what

2509
02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:26,480
Speaker 2: I find annoying and amusing. I mean, that's why I

2510
02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 2: find amusing in my relationships, and that's what I want

2511
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:32,839
Speaker 2: to see in yours. And honestly, to a certain extent,

2512
02:11:33,000 --> 02:11:35,400
Speaker 2: that's why to do something like what we're doing, you

2513
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:40,080
Speaker 2: gotta be like, man, fuck everybody, good and bad, Fuck everybody.

2514
02:11:40,280 --> 02:11:45,560
Speaker 2: We're just gonna do ourselves. Hopefully reasonable people will get

2515
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:47,680
Speaker 2: down with it and be like, yo, okay, I'll see

2516
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:51,040
Speaker 2: where they coming from. I don't want to do the

2517
02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:55,640
Speaker 2: other there's so many podcasts with romantic partners arguing, and

2518
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 2: you know that's the whole thing, is he he he

2519
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:01,200
Speaker 2: thinks like a man, think like a woman, and we

2520
02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:02,920
Speaker 2: get on the mic and we argue about it.

2521
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,240
Speaker 1: And so many shows like.

2522
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:08,400
Speaker 2: That, the show, the Religious Angle, there's shows from just

2523
02:12:08,560 --> 02:12:11,120
Speaker 2: so many shows. Just go listen to one of them,

2524
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:15,600
Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, but nah, I appreciate the love

2525
02:12:15,680 --> 02:12:20,720
Speaker 2: and I know that, Karen. That's what's so funny, is uh.

2526
02:12:21,200 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 2: One of the main critiques I've seen is, well, you know,

2527
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:26,360
Speaker 2: Rogers need to do his own show no long It's

2528
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:28,600
Speaker 2: like one some of that should be coming from women,

2529
02:12:28,640 --> 02:12:32,840
Speaker 2: which I find that's crazy. But okay, I don't want

2530
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:35,160
Speaker 2: to do my own show by myself. Number one, I

2531
02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:40,320
Speaker 2: don't think that's the thing I'm into necessarily. But then two,

2532
02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be this show anymore. I like this show.

2533
02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:47,280
Speaker 2: I like what we make. It's a choice we make

2534
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 2: creatively together. Every day we do this these episodes, So

2535
02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:55,080
Speaker 2: I like the I like this, and I don't I personally,

2536
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:58,600
Speaker 2: I don't hear this anywhere else. Ud. I have never

2537
02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:01,640
Speaker 2: heard somebody shit that sounds like ours. You know, there's

2538
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:03,879
Speaker 2: people that do pop culture. There's people that do politics,

2539
02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:07,120
Speaker 2: that's people that do shows. They husband and wife. They

2540
02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:09,200
Speaker 2: should don't be popping like I should be popping in

2541
02:13:09,320 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 2: my opinion, And I'm proud of what we've made right.

2542
02:13:13,720 --> 02:13:20,080
Speaker 1: And also is one of those things to where our

2543
02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:23,200
Speaker 1: perspective is our perspective, because, like you, going back to

2544
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 1: some of the things you said before, people actually used

2545
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:27,520
Speaker 1: to write in the access like you said, why don't

2546
02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:29,680
Speaker 1: we argue? Why don't we fuss? Why don't why don't

2547
02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:33,120
Speaker 1: we fight? And we were like because and I've had

2548
02:13:33,160 --> 02:13:36,480
Speaker 1: people even ask me that in real you know, in

2549
02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:40,360
Speaker 1: real life, and I've come to the inclusion that me

2550
02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:42,960
Speaker 1: and Roger could just oddballs and a lot of people

2551
02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 1: fussing and fighting and arguing is just part of relationship.

2552
02:13:46,960 --> 02:13:50,720
Speaker 1: I had to learn that because they act like something's

2553
02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 1: wrong with us. When I'd be like, guess what I

2554
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,920
Speaker 1: am an I am a goddamn adult, and what you

2555
02:13:57,080 --> 02:13:58,960
Speaker 1: not gonna motherfucking do is yell at me.

2556
02:13:59,320 --> 02:14:01,800
Speaker 2: People be like why don't you take a side? And

2557
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 2: he take a side and then y'all fight about it.

2558
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:05,320
Speaker 2: It's like cause not debate.

2559
02:14:05,120 --> 02:14:08,160
Speaker 1: Club, Like what the fuck? I don't want to do that?

2560
02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:10,320
Speaker 2: Go find the shows that do that. It's a punch

2561
02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:14,880
Speaker 2: of you hacky motherfucker. Go find a hack ass show

2562
02:14:14,920 --> 02:14:16,800
Speaker 2: to do that. I don't want to do that. That's

2563
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:20,000
Speaker 2: not my goal in life, so let me finish it.

2564
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this is a big tangent.

2565
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

2566
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:25,280
Speaker 2: And then as far as not cutting people off, I

2567
02:14:25,520 --> 02:14:27,000
Speaker 2: just can't. I don't like it when I was in

2568
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:28,720
Speaker 2: a podcast and they cut each other off all the time.

2569
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:32,000
Speaker 2: So I don't want to do that. And I know

2570
02:14:32,200 --> 02:14:35,000
Speaker 2: that that does make good TV and good podcasts. I

2571
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:37,120
Speaker 2: guess we just have to make bad podcasts. I don't

2572
02:14:37,240 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 2: like it. And I know, yeah, that's the thing for

2573
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:41,560
Speaker 2: a lot of people.

2574
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:44,040
Speaker 1: Right whatever. I want people to get their thoughts out,

2575
02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:46,520
Speaker 1: you know. I've listened to a lot of podcasts, a

2576
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:49,120
Speaker 1: lot of podcasts I love where somebody's saying something and

2577
02:14:49,160 --> 02:14:52,880
Speaker 1: they're actually making a good point and somebody interjects the

2578
02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:54,720
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, down a tanz. I'm like, well shit,

2579
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:57,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to see you know, where that thought process

2580
02:14:57,360 --> 02:14:57,680
Speaker 1: was going.

2581
02:14:57,800 --> 02:14:59,960
Speaker 2: And I tell Karen all the time, like, feel free

2582
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:01,000
Speaker 2: to cut me off.

2583
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:04,160
Speaker 1: You know, because it's the opposite. I don't want to

2584
02:15:04,240 --> 02:15:04,520
Speaker 1: jump in.

2585
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:08,080
Speaker 2: Well no, I well, I don't want to jump in

2586
02:15:08,120 --> 02:15:10,839
Speaker 2: when you're talking. But I know there's a flow to conversation,

2587
02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:14,040
Speaker 2: and there's you know, we're human, we repeat ourselves. We

2588
02:15:14,160 --> 02:15:18,760
Speaker 2: fucking if we do ship, you know, like people get

2589
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:21,680
Speaker 2: upset about idiosyncrasies like you know this motherfucker always says

2590
02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:23,880
Speaker 2: this thing in this phrase, like you would too if

2591
02:15:23,880 --> 02:15:26,360
Speaker 2: you talked a couple hours a day, four five times

2592
02:15:26,400 --> 02:15:29,920
Speaker 2: a week. No one special, Everybody got their thing. You

2593
02:15:30,040 --> 02:15:33,520
Speaker 2: gonna you, You're gonna say the thing about it is,

2594
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:35,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna say whatever you're.

2595
02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:36,440
Speaker 1: Gonna end of the day.

2596
02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gonna do it too. I don't know why

2597
02:15:39,040 --> 02:15:43,240
Speaker 2: you think you fucking figured out the fucking cue on talking.

2598
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:46,360
Speaker 2: Everybody doesn't and and on the loan.

2599
02:15:46,440 --> 02:15:48,440
Speaker 1: But people that have listened to this show logan though,

2600
02:15:48,760 --> 02:15:50,800
Speaker 1: me and Roger don't agree on a lot of things,

2601
02:15:50,840 --> 02:15:52,440
Speaker 1: but the way we talk to each other, it actually

2602
02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:54,480
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a disagreement. And so I think that's

2603
02:15:54,520 --> 02:15:56,560
Speaker 1: what tricks people's mind in the thinking we don't ever

2604
02:15:57,080 --> 02:15:59,840
Speaker 1: not we always agree. It's a lot of shit we don't.

2605
02:16:00,760 --> 02:16:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, motherfuckers donn not. I take it. Lastly, Karen, I

2606
02:16:03,640 --> 02:16:06,760
Speaker 2: bought the Amazon legings, and yes, thank you for sharing y'all.

2607
02:16:06,800 --> 02:16:10,040
Speaker 2: The best is Lakisa. Come on, come on, leggings they

2608
02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:12,360
Speaker 2: be doing, they be making them, they making them cheeks,

2609
02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:16,440
Speaker 2: do what they do. I love me some legers.

2610
02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:18,080
Speaker 1: I ain't never going back.

2611
02:16:18,560 --> 02:16:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah Amazon, they listen. Uh, y'all, ain't never gonna shut

2612
02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:27,240
Speaker 2: down Jeff Bezos. Okay, because Amazon Legings by itself could

2613
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:30,280
Speaker 2: keep that man in business in business for the rest

2614
02:16:30,320 --> 02:16:33,280
Speaker 2: of his life. It's like, everybody likes how they cheeks.

2615
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:35,600
Speaker 2: Look at them. Everybody likes to look at some cheeks

2616
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:38,959
Speaker 2: and some Amazon leggings. It's that's probably the thing that's

2617
02:16:39,120 --> 02:16:41,080
Speaker 2: paying for all the same day shipping and ship.

2618
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I get this in every color? Right?

2619
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:49,560
Speaker 2: Like you see somebody out and about them leggings, you'd

2620
02:16:49,560 --> 02:16:51,640
Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, did you get this from Amazon?

2621
02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:54,080
Speaker 2: I didn't realize Instagram Models is out here. Oh that's

2622
02:16:54,120 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 2: just a regular person. Oh wow, look at these all right.

2623
02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:01,840
Speaker 2: This week we have guests Catherine Heller, who it'll be

2624
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:04,400
Speaker 2: her first time on our show, but she's actually a

2625
02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:06,920
Speaker 2: long time listener and a person I have wanted to

2626
02:17:06,920 --> 02:17:09,680
Speaker 2: get on the show for years. Just such a super

2627
02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:14,480
Speaker 2: nice person, and I used to listen to her podcast

2628
02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:15,520
Speaker 2: the Struggle Bus.

2629
02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:18,959
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so for.

2630
02:17:19,160 --> 02:17:21,959
Speaker 2: Years and it's just one of those brain fark things

2631
02:17:22,040 --> 02:17:25,400
Speaker 2: where I would listen to the show, I would we

2632
02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:27,040
Speaker 2: follow each other on Twitter, and I, you know, I

2633
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:28,920
Speaker 2: see a funny tweet of song, like, oh, I gotta

2634
02:17:28,920 --> 02:17:32,680
Speaker 2: get her on the show, and like literally like twenty four,

2635
02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:35,520
Speaker 2: like twenty minutes later, I'm just like, now, what was

2636
02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:41,560
Speaker 2: I Who was I gonna get? I know, and and

2637
02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:44,680
Speaker 2: just not following through. But finally I said, you know what,

2638
02:17:44,760 --> 02:17:47,480
Speaker 2: God damn it, it's time to be best friends. So

2639
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:51,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna have her on the show. So excited tomorrow

2640
02:17:51,400 --> 02:17:54,119
Speaker 2: at noon for those who listen live Eastern Standard time,

2641
02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:57,680
Speaker 2: and it'll probably be kind of half interview, but she

2642
02:17:58,000 --> 02:17:59,480
Speaker 2: is a fan of the show, so we might get

2643
02:17:59,520 --> 02:18:02,840
Speaker 2: to get into segments and news and stuff. And the

2644
02:18:02,959 --> 02:18:07,360
Speaker 2: Jail Coven is gonna be on the show Tuesday. He

2645
02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:11,640
Speaker 2: just finished recording his album, his live taping, which I

2646
02:18:11,680 --> 02:18:14,120
Speaker 2: don't know if it's one hundred percent out yet, but

2647
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:18,600
Speaker 2: you know, we'll be talking to this this felt uh

2648
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:21,840
Speaker 2: Jail coved has been losing all this weight over there

2649
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:26,520
Speaker 2: and and uh and and breaking computers and ship so

2650
02:18:26,800 --> 02:18:31,320
Speaker 2: I can't wait to kick him with Man And yeah,

2651
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:34,320
Speaker 2: that's that's it for now. Thank y'all for listening, and

2652
02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:37,960
Speaker 2: we'll be back tomorrow and we may do other episodes

2653
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:40,120
Speaker 2: this week too, I don't know, just really is planning

2654
02:18:40,160 --> 02:18:42,920
Speaker 2: it by ear, I know for sure two episodes, uh,

2655
02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:46,039
Speaker 2: but been enjoying this laid back schedule lately. But we'll

2656
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:50,480
Speaker 2: see all right, y'all until uh tomorrow. I love you,