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Speaker 2: What up doing? Well? How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good man. I appreciate you taking the time

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Speaker 3: you fresh out of practice, man, which you came here

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Speaker 3: to kick it with us. Now, I mentioned a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: It was blast. When you don't have the combine, when

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Speaker 1: You just get a train you get a bit. You

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Speaker 3: And I know you've grown up your whole life training

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Speaker 3: Did it feel a little different? Was there a little

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Speaker 2: Honestly, the biggest thing is you just have more time.

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Speaker 3: Man, your celebration had the entire area of going crazy

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great? Man. How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Oh man? I'm blessed man.

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Speaker 4: Every time you can just breathe and wake up, you're

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Speaker 3: I a man. I say that all the time, and

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: So let's take it back to when you was in

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Speaker 3: And you think about that call, right, because you made

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Speaker 4: or brown trees everywhere and it wasn't like it is today.

438
00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,040
Speaker 4: You got all these houses that it was trees everywhere.

439
00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,879
Speaker 4: That's like, oh my, I'm moving to the woods. It

440
00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,840
Speaker 4: was scared, you know, it was just real scared. So

441
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,200
Speaker 4: but I may do. I got happy when I got here.

442
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,800
Speaker 4: I knew instantly just by I don't know why I

443
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,000
Speaker 4: thought this, but when I saw the cars in the

444
00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,199
Speaker 4: parking lot, it was just like blue collar cars, like

445
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 4: big trucks, and there wasn't no fancy stuff. So I said, man,

446
00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,000
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna be really good man, because they serious.

447
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,880
Speaker 4: And then you got big MONI comen and you see

448
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,560
Speaker 4: all these cats. I'm like, okay. The vibe that I

449
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 4: felt just when I got there, even a mini camp,

450
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,400
Speaker 4: I was like, man, they're gonna be pretty good.

451
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,119
Speaker 3: And you guys wore pretty good. I mean, there's not

452
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,359
Speaker 3: many rookies that come into this situation like you came

453
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 3: into getting to that super Bowl. But before we talk

454
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,400
Speaker 3: about that super Bowl, you got to get there first, right,

455
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,480
Speaker 3: What was that rookie year like for you? Because you

456
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,200
Speaker 3: said you didn't even like the Reds kids, You're looking around,

457
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 3: this is all brand new. I know that's not an

458
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,200
Speaker 3: easy adjustment. For young man.

459
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,920
Speaker 4: Let me go to training camp and my introduction to

460
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 4: be Mitch for this whole thing. Because we go to

461
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 4: training camp, no one told me about the humidity out

462
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:11,160
Speaker 4: in this area. Okay, So the way I dress and

463
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 4: what pads on, it's like, first of all, I thought

464
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,879
Speaker 4: we go shorts for the first four four or five days.

465
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 4: Now first day was passed. So I go to the

466
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 4: locker room and everybody getting dressed. I'm like, what cha doing?

467
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,640
Speaker 4: Why I getting dressed? It's like rookie, it's a big leads.

468
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 4: We don't go no short. I'm like, what, So I

469
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,640
Speaker 4: get my path I'm putting my paths in my everything.

470
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 4: And Brian mitt to looking at me. I got I

471
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 4: should have brought him too. I got passed this big

472
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 4: thipads knee passed like that. I had a hip pass in,

473
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,959
Speaker 4: I had elbow pass. I'm like, cause it's the pros man.

474
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 4: They hit harder than college. That's what I think. And

475
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 4: so Brian said, hey, bro, all that right there is coming.

476
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 4: You're coming out with that. I said, no, man, that's

477
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 4: how I dressed. That's my plane. No man, trust me.

478
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 4: All that coming out if not now second practice whatever, man,

479
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 4: we get out there. Bro, I don't know what it was.

480
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 4: No one told me about it, but I couldn't breathe.

481
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 4: I couldn't move, Like the first ten to fifteen minutes

482
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 4: We're doing these drills and I'm just like now, I

483
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,679
Speaker 4: was in great shape and I'm like, what is going on?

484
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 4: While my chest felt like this. Everything was going on

485
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 4: and it's like man'sday. Minutely bruh, I told you you

486
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 4: should be wearing That second practice, I was down near naked.

487
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god. This it was crazy, man. But those

488
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 4: practices that we had, man, man, it was just it

489
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 4: was it was fast, it was just a lot of hitting.

490
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 4: It was just so it was it. I think that

491
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 4: week we scrimmaged the Jets on Wednesday, they went with

492
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Saturday. I'm like, we it's like the first

493
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 4: week of trading camp. Why are we doing this so soon?

494
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 3: Man?

495
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 4: Everything was popping like this though, But man, it was

496
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,959
Speaker 4: it was real and we loved it. We we we

497
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 4: loved that commandery that had it was like everybody together.

498
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 4: Many Coma was the key to though. He was that

499
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 4: voice that kept everybody together and just when you when

500
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 4: you heard it, it was like, man, we just sit

501
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 4: there and just listen, man. So I love him for that, though.

502
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 3: Bro, when you have a MONI call me when you

503
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: have a Brian Mitchell. Guys that have done it, Guys

504
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: that you probably were looking at on TV like, oh man,

505
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: these guys are stars and now you get to play

506
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 3: with them. How beneficial is that to have those old

507
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: g's in that locker room that actually care because we

508
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 3: didn't have to say none to you. You could have

509
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 3: let you go out there and figured out.

510
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 4: Well, so you know, when I came in, I'm sizing

511
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 4: guys up to my running backs just like so it's

512
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 4: another funny story. I got into Mini Camp. I thought

513
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 4: Ernest Bonner was a coach because he he had he

514
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 4: had him glass, and he had these this beard that

515
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 4: was like kind of grayish and everything. So I didn't

516
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 4: think none of him. But when I saw the running backs,

517
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 4: I looked at Danny Coplan and I saw the way

518
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 4: he ran. I got him if I could. Usually I

519
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: set up when I do this, though, but John Subtle,

520
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 4: my dude from Atlanta, he slew foot and he walked

521
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 4: like this. I said, well, I damn show got him.

522
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 4: We had Joe Ray. I said, he too big and

523
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 4: he probably passed his prime, so I ain't worried about him.

524
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 4: And then when I saw be Mitch, I said, okay,

525
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 4: b Mitch's he a little young, young cat, you know,

526
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: got energy. But I think I'll get him too.

527
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: You know.

528
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: It be tough, but I think I get it. So

529
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 4: I ain't thinking. I said I could start it, you know.

530
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, we're getting Redy to start

531
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 4: one on one drills and Ernest come running out and

532
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 4: he gets in the front of the line. So when

533
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: you get in front of the line, that tells me

534
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 4: that you are d bat. You're the man, you know

535
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I'm like, but dude, I thought

536
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 4: you was a coach what you're doing. So all of

537
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 4: a sudden he go out there boom boom, boom boom bah.

538
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 4: I said, oh, that's gonna be a problem. As soon

539
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 4: as he did his route on Moni Coleman, he came back.

540
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 4: I said, man, because I didn't know. See, I knew

541
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 4: Ernest's buying it from Cleveland. I didn't. I was so

542
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 4: naive about teams changing players changing changing teams. I didn't

543
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 4: know who he was. And I said, hey, man, he

544
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 4: came back because I'm I'm curious about this. I say, man, uh,

545
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 4: you been here the whole time, this Scince. He's like, nah,

546
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 4: I was. I said, Cleveland, Cleveland. I know Cleveland. I'm

547
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 4: going back and you know, I do my route and

548
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 4: I did it on with Marshall beat him every time.

549
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 4: Every time I thought he was gonna because again I

550
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: didn't know players. I'm thinking they're gonna cut this dude,

551
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 4: and I'm killing them. I'm killing it. I'll go back

552
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: and tell my boys. But I get back to my

553
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 4: to rest up, and I'm thinking, like, Okay, who was

554
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 4: this dude? Cleveland, Cleveland clean? They had forty four and

555
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 4: they had a big mac to big full back and

556
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, heh, man, what was your number? He said

557
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 4: forty four? Oh you that dude? Man, I'm sorry from

558
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: the ball and end zo man, oh.

559
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: Man, you was freaking it.

560
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 4: Oh my god. So I didn't know that these guys

561
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 4: were here, bruh. And I'm like, and I learned so

562
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: much from that from Ernest Bonder. He's my mentor by far.

563
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: So what are those kinds of things that he taught you?

564
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 3: Was it was it just life things? Was it feel?

565
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 4: I went off the field. We let's start with the field.

566
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 4: The way he looked at you, see this is where

567
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 4: you need. I need to be moving and show you

568
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 4: this because the way he approached the game, how he

569
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: looks at the linebackers with his eyes, his intent was

570
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 4: just so just like like he zoned He is zoned in.

571
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: You can just tell instantly. You can't say nothing, Ernest,

572
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 4: he ain't hearing you because he's so sowed in and

573
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 4: he looks at you the whole time. He don't take

574
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 4: his eye off you make that move about. I did

575
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: exactly like him time, everything he did running around. I

576
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 4: try to be like him because it was so nice

577
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 4: and so intentional. So I said okay, and then we

578
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 4: would go over his house. He would cook for us,

579
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: you know from Georgia. He'll cook for us. Man being

580
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: like in the book reading group and all that stuff.

581
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 4: We did a lot of stuff. Eb Man. He was

582
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 4: really that big brother.

583
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 3: And even when you're a younger brother, right, because I'm

584
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: a younger brother, right, You look at your older siblings sometimes,

585
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 3: so there's an admiration there, there's a respect there. But

586
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: you said it when you walked in. You size the

587
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: folks up. That's a competitive mindset. Did you have that

588
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 3: with him as well, where you're like, Okay, I know

589
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: you the guy. Yeah, I know you, my big bro,

590
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: but I want to show you I'm him too well.

591
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 4: But I think they knew that because once we did

592
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: our scrimmages and everything, I displayed that. I let them

593
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 4: know from from from one on one drills with the linebackers. Again,

594
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: I'm killing Whilbert and Weber always wanted to go with me, right,

595
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 4: And I'll go back to my my not Dorham, but

596
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 4: I guess Durham. I'll call my boy my best friend

597
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: said hey, man, I'm out here doing my thing, bro,

598
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 4: but I'm killing this guy named Marshall. Man, he just man,

599
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: they gonna cut him. He's just I don't know what's wrong.

600
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: He I'm killing every time though, He said, whoo whoob Marshall.

601
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 4: I don't know his first name, but something Marshall number

602
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 4: fifty eight. And so I go to Marshall he said, man,

603
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: because my boy versus man, I think he played for Chicago.

604
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 4: Said no, he ain't play for Chicago. So I go

605
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 4: to it, said Marshall, Hey, hey, did you play for Chicago?

606
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: He said, yeah, wait you oh you fifty eight he said, okay,

607
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 4: he said, I don't. I don't hate guys in practice.

608
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah you up? Yes, I said, know that.

609
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 4: He said you're good. I said, whoa okay, and I

610
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 4: was like, man, I am tripping. And then Art Monk.

611
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 4: I used to hate Art Monk because he will always

612
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 4: beat my cowboys. But I hated him because the way

613
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: he looked in his uniform. He would have his shoulder

614
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: pads flapping out, Jericho hanging out in the back. It

615
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 4: was just looking real sloppy. And as a as a kid,

616
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: you see these things and it's like you already hate

617
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 4: the Redskins anyway, but now the players on this like,

618
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: I can't stand him because he's just all sloppy. When

619
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: you watch the door set, he was all clean, just smooth.

620
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 4: Then I get here and I'm looking at Art was

621
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 4: actually in the weight room in the old weight room,

622
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 4: and I was just watching it. It's just so chill

623
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 4: and get quiet, and I said, man, Art, I used

624
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 4: to hate you man, I said, yeah, as a kid, Man,

625
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: I watched you play and you always be my comboence.

626
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: But your uniform you look this shovel and everything, and

627
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: I just didn't like it. But I'm sorry.

628
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: I just start laughing, dude, because in our city that

629
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: are so quiet, you probably didn't even respond to it.

630
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean. So ye had a

631
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 4: great time.

632
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 3: So you're a rookie man, you're going through all these things,

633
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: you're learning. It sounds like you're just learning so much

634
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: before the season even starts. But this is a super

635
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: Bowl team. You said it when you drove in that

636
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: you could tell, hey man, this is lunch peal type guys.

637
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 3: These guys just getting it. When did you know within

638
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: that rookie season that y'all were onto something special.

639
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take you to the Giants game. The Giants game?

640
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 4: Was it the first game? I think it was the

641
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: first one. Yeah, so we didn't beat Cleveland. This is

642
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: after I think we played Cleveland before a Giants. But

643
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: when Ernest was having some problems with a Cleveland, I

644
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 4: think he was trying to press too much because you

645
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: know he's been there. So Gibbs finally put me in

646
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: and that's when I displayed what I can do. Had

647
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: what thirteen cares one hundred thirty three yards to TDS.

648
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 4: I almost ran a kick off back because I wanted

649
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 4: to be on that field right I wanted to show

650
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: the world what I can do, and when I got

651
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: the opportunity, I did so. Now Gibbs is starting to

652
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: put me more in the second half. Right, we're playing

653
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: the Giants, and this is when I knew. I said, okay,

654
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 4: it's about to be on. We're playing a Giant, and

655
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: it's like, I don't know, it's real close. Thirteen ten

656
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: something like that or thirteen zip. At first, giants were

657
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: beating us, and we're up there and Gary scores a touchdown.

658
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: We get up close. I think we either make minute

659
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: even or in the lead, and they put me in.

660
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: I'm in the second half. I'm just running the ball

661
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 4: all over all over it. I had like eighty three

662
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: yards in the second half. But every time.

663
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: Lead.

664
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: Now I get the ball, they keep saying, Rick, don't fumble,

665
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: don't fumble. Every time win a huddle, hold on to

666
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: the ball. I said, man, listen, he said, because we

667
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: ain't beat these guys in six times. I said, listen.

668
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: I wasn't here those times. It doesn't matter to me.

669
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: I have no I don't I don't care. But telling

670
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: me not I knock on thumble this ball. If you

671
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: keep telling me that you're gonna make me really and

672
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: I can't run the way I want to. So it

673
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: was that was a little difficult. But when we won

674
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: that game up there, I said, yeah, it's all now,

675
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: it's about to be a ride. And even when we

676
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: went leven in no and we played the Cowboys, man,

677
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: we could have won that game. We were just just

678
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: I we were just I guess feeling ourselves because when

679
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: we came to work on Mondays, because Mondays was we

680
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: got Mondays off. We're supposed to work on Mondays. But

681
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: every time Gibbs said you win, Coach Gibbs said, if

682
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 4: you win, you got Monday. You already got Tuesday off,

683
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: so we got two days off. So you're having that

684
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: leven and no stretch without that that Monday free. So noah, man,

685
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: we can't do no more. We got we gotta have

686
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: our money's free. So when you know undefeated, of course

687
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: you know we lost to Eagles on purpose. We're trying

688
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: to win that, especially when you're put in the third

689
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: string linemen. Yeah. No, so we knew that we had

690
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: that game and we had the NFC wrapped up. Come

691
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: man to uh, the way we practice at the Super Bowl.

692
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 4: If anybody would watch our practices, they would have said,

693
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: oh okay, they about to.

694
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: Beat they tail what about those practices?

695
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: It was so they had to stop it because it

696
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: was so intense. We was hitting so hard and just

697
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: moved flying around the field as if we were playing

698
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: a game. Right then every practice Gills had to cut

699
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: it short.

700
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: Who sets that tone? Who sets that energy? Right there?

701
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: Is it?

702
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 4: Coach Gibbs, it's the players. To me, it's money coming,

703
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: it's to leaders. Because again will Mini give his speeches

704
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 4: might be powerful, and just to hear his baritone voice,

705
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 4: how you talk, I'm like, man, I be looking. I'm like, hey, man,

706
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna get another one because I'm ready for it

707
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: because it got me, got me ready. But man, it

708
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: was just like I don't want to let nobody now.

709
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do my part. And that's how you felt

710
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: if your player had a job to do. And the

711
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: way Coach Gibbs approaching man is just how he had

712
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: his plays. How we run our plays and practice you

713
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 4: get confident about it so you know what to expect.

714
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: You know what's gonna happen how and this guy gona

715
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 4: block and you know you just knew all that stuff

716
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: because We did it over and over and over again.

717
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: And I think that's what's so impressive when I look

718
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: at you being a rookie all these new things. Man,

719
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: you're already on the team that's established. They you could

720
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: have never played, you could have never saw the field.

721
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: But when you got your chance to get on that field,

722
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: you played so well that you end up leading us

723
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: in rushing in the Super Bowl. Man, I want to

724
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: really dive into that. Going into the Super Bowl, right,

725
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: you've never done this before. You are rookie, You've never

726
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: seen this stage. I gotta imagine, Man, nerves are going crazy,

727
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: butterflies are where you or what? You just just so excited.

728
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: For the reason being, I was not nervous or anything,

729
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: because to me, it didn't feel like a super Bowl

730
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: because we were in Minnesota, snow up there to the roof,

731
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: so you're in a hotel the whole time. So what

732
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: you see now with all these festivities going on, we

733
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: didn't have none of that. We're in a cold place

734
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: and you never supposed to have a super Bowl in Minnesota.

735
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: What's going on with that? So we didn't get a

736
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: chance to get excited, you know, spend time a week,

737
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: you know, with the family having a great that we

738
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: didn't know. We all stuck in a hotel and this

739
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: is when I got introduced to Brian's fried turkey. His

740
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 4: whole family there and there had every room in the hotel. Right, Rick,

741
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: come try this. He tried to get me forever to

742
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: try this fire turck. No, man, I'm going on, damn

743
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: fried turkey. Now, who's what's fried turkey? No, get that

744
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: out of here, Brick, try it. No, no, no, no.

745
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: My wife tried it. She was like, it's good, said, oh,

746
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: let me try it. I said, bruh, what's this? I

747
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: got Yeah, And from that port, I have not baked

748
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: a turkey since. But let's keep it. I'm gonna keep

749
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: it there though. But as far as talking about we

750
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: like you have games now, like they all in warm places,

751
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: they're having a great time. You know it's gonna be

752
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: a nice But it didn't feel like that because it

753
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: felt like a regular game, and the way we approach

754
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: regular games, it's the same every single every single week,

755
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: and it felt like a regular game. It didn't feel

756
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: like the big thing. Only until they dropped those balloons

757
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: at the end. That's the only time it felt like

758
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: I said Oh this is big, but I didn't trip

759
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: on it because it just felt like another game only

760
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 4: because it was in Minnesota.

761
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: That had to add to you being pretty calm though, right?

762
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: Did that help you kind of just be calm and

763
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: just treated like.

764
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 4: Because again Gibbs like this, do your job, do your job,

765
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: and we will be all right. And I just I

766
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: didn't want to you know, I don't want to disappoint nobody. Plus,

767
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: I know when I get in I want the world

768
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: to see who I was. That's how I always thought.

769
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: I want you to know who thirty two is, what

770
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: Irvanes mean.

771
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: And you did do that. So what happens after the fact, right,

772
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: you you lead the team in rushing yards, you win

773
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: this Super Bowl? Now everybody knows your name. How do

774
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: things change for you after that?

775
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: When I went back to school to finish up, I

776
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: had three more classes, went back to school and being

777
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: at USC at that time, and my boyfriend were going

778
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: everywhere I went most time. You had to dress up.

779
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: We had to dress up. We walk into a club. Oh,

780
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 4: we got Rick Irvans in the house from the Super Bowl.

781
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: Tamp I have on boots long that's what we had.

782
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 4: Trenches back then. How old are you.

783
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 3: I'm thirty three.

784
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 4: Tell you that my daughter bro.

785
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

786
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 4: So back then we is addressed with these trench coaches,

787
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: trench coats and boots. Now come up in here and

788
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: you have them moving and just be smooth. But and

789
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: I want to say, because Magic would have parties out

790
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: there a lot too that we would go to and

791
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: you had to be dressed up. I come in there

792
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 4: with trench coat and boots and just chill. I get

793
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: in because I'm Rick Curves from the super Bowl do

794
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 4: so it was. It was, It was great, man. I

795
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 4: enjoyed it. Even when super Bowl was out there in

796
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: ninety three at the Rose Bowl, they had a big

797
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 4: picture of me. I think Dallas played It was Dallas

798
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 4: when they played Buffalo. They had a big picture of

799
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 4: me and one of the when they had like all

800
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 4: of this ah, like a little party going on during

801
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 4: the all the fecifties going on that week. So they

802
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: had a big picture of me a booth that you

803
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 4: could take a picture with. It was crazy, man, so

804
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 4: much years yes, yes, yeah, then so much can change. Yeah,

805
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 4: you're right, because we went once Coach Gibbs left right.

806
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: Didn't realize it would be like that. Right, I did

807
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: not realize that we would tank so easily. Had he

808
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 4: been here, we'll still be winning. Some games would have

809
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 4: been because he had that. His philosophy was just just great.

810
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: Loved it. Just do your job, man, do your job.

811
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: Everybody take care of himself and don't worry about the

812
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 4: next person. But man, that what going three and thirteen

813
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: was our my third year lord ha mercy.

814
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: I mean because you start here right like, that's that's

815
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: gotta be tough for any workie. Like you're you're at

816
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: the pinnacle. Man. You see all of the success, and

817
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: then afterwards it's got to be like the day after

818
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: Christmas right where it's like, Yo, does any season ever

819
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: feel that good against you?

820
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: Now? And it's funny because I told you, I told Money,

821
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: it's funny. We uh in the super Bowl that Rick.

822
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: This don't happen all the time. I said, man, please,

823
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 4: maybe gonna get back here next year.

824
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: It's this we kicking everybody at your boy confidence.

825
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: I'm like what he was right, like, this doesn't happen.

826
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: This is this is a freak man. It's a one

827
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: time thing. Man. It doesn't happen our time and when

828
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: it so we need to make sure we seize this moment,

829
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: but it was funny. Another thing the store. I love

830
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: to tells that my first time playing on RFK, it's crazy.

831
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: Now I played in a hundred before one hundred thousand

832
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: people at the Rose Bowl, ninety six thousand at the Coliseum.

833
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 4: I'm used to crowd. I want people to see me play.

834
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: I get to our first game against Detroit that year

835
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: and I'm out there and warm up and I'm looking

836
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: at the stands going like, I meant, nobody here, anybody

837
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: come into the games. I don't know the history of

838
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: Redskins about people coming to the game late or whatever.

839
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 4: I don't know none of that. I just know anybody

840
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 4: in the stands and I know the game ain't start

841
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 4: it yet, but ain't nobody gonna fill up the stand that?

842
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: And that's what thirty minutes, you know what I mean,

843
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: something like damn money, ain't where everybody at Rick trust me.

844
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 4: By the time we go back in there come back out,

845
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 4: it's gonna before I'm like, man, this is you crazy.

846
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: Ain't nobody they all in the parking, they all tailgate,

847
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: yeah whatever. So I'll go back in and I'm like,

848
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: this is I can't get excited because I always I

849
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 4: would get my I have my musical. I'm like, man,

850
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: so now it's time for to come out. I'm just

851
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: like kind of this down a little bit. Man said,

852
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: you walk out and then you just say, I see us.

853
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: You've never been so you never never have to beat

854
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: no man. You need to experience. That's why I hope

855
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: when they make the new stadium that they trying to

856
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: replicate the stairs going up and down when you When

857
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 4: I saw that, I didn't just start crying because you

858
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 4: see all these folks, the energy in it and stances

859
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: going up and down like this, and I'm like, oh, man,

860
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: I said, game over it. I said, they have no

861
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: clue that they lost this game. It's just a matter

862
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 4: of how much we're gonna beat them by game over

863
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: it already, because that that crowd puts so much energy

864
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: into you. I blew it, blew my mind. They need

865
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: to have that in the next dadium. They got to

866
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: figure out a way how to do it.

867
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: So I imagine you're pretty excited to hear about the

868
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 3: news and that the fact that we'll be going back

869
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: to RFK. I gotta imagine players like you, man, it

870
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: means something because unlike some like me who didn't get

871
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: to go there. You've been there and this hey day, Man,

872
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: how excited were you to hear that news?

873
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 4: But I was hoping that they was going to do

874
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: that because that's the place where it needs to go

875
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 4: because I been to Foxborough before and when I saw

876
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 4: Foxborough and I saw how they had it, I said,

877
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: this is an experience.

878
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 3: Yep.

879
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: They got a hotel, restaurants, movie theater, it's all connected

880
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: to this whole, this football stadium. We could do the

881
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: same thing at r RFK. Ikenp wanting to say, but RFK,

882
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: because that's where it needs to be. Man, It's just

883
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: that's redskin football RFK right there, and it's going to

884
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: be an experience. When people come, people gonna be talking

885
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: about that. So I'm hoping they do that, you know,

886
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: build it like the way Foxborough and but man, I

887
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: was so happy they put it in DC because now

888
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: we got all the sports in DC. Now you get

889
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: really call them in Washington the man that's not the

890
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: Maryland Commanders, what the technice they are?

891
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, before we got started, I was talking to you.

892
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: I to ask you. You said, you play about five years

893
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: in the NFL, right, and I asked you why because

894
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: you were so talented, because you had so much Do

895
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: you mind sharing that story you share with me there

896
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: on when you knew, yeah, that my career in the

897
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: NFL show is about over. Yeah.

898
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: Man. We were playing Tempa Bay in nineteen ninety four

899
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 4: home and one of the I got a pitch to

900
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: the left, normal play, and me and the dB collided

901
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 4: head to head and my body went and scared the

902
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: blank out of me. Bro And ever since that, that

903
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 4: play has been in my head. I always want to

904
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 4: always tell myself, I don't want to get paralysed. Don't

905
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: want to get paralyzed, you know, because you see Daryl Steingelan,

906
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 4: you see guys like that, these all these hits, and

907
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: so that's always in your mind when you sometimes when

908
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: you're playing, when you see all these calipties, these I

909
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 4: call them car wrecks ca me being on the sideline.

910
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: Now I'm watching this stuff up close, and I will

911
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: tell myself, how in the hell did I play this

912
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 4: game hitting like this? So I had to go back

913
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: and actually watch tapes, going like, oh, I used to

914
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: do the same thing, but my body was built for it,

915
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But man, it's just like

916
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: these are car wrecks that happens every time. And so

917
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 4: when that happened to me, it did something to my

918
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 4: mental and I couldn't I couldn't straighten it out.

919
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: And is it just a more timidness about the way

920
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: you run after something like that?

921
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's now it's like do I because I

922
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: was used to just running, you know, I would run

923
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: people over too, you know, I put my head boom,

924
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: I'm gone. But now it's like, do I do that now?

925
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 4: So now when I'm in between that, you're in trouble. Now,

926
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 4: when I'm in between thinking do I do this? I

927
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: do that? Came over it because now I'm really about

928
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: to get hurt because I'm being indecisive.

929
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: So how long in between that moment where you got

930
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: that hit to the time you decided to retire? When

931
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: did you know though that? Hey, I'm suse I know

932
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: it takes a minute for the mind to catch up

933
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: with the bodies trying to tell you.

934
00:41:53,800 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: So we uh finished that year and and then signed

935
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 4: back with I went to the forty Niners. I always

936
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: wanted to play for them because I loved the way

937
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: their offense, how they was hit quick quick, So I

938
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: wanted to get over there, and it was that or Chicago.

939
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: I was gonna go to Chicago. Chicago wanted me to,

940
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 4: but I ended up going to for the Niners because

941
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: Ricky Waters end up going to Philly, so he left.

942
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: So I go over there and their system, man, man,

943
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: they had to run it back doing everything. I had

944
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: to learn, not just tell back, but all the receivers

945
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: because they in all those spots. So it was a

946
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: lot to learn and I learned it too. But they

947
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 4: already promised Derek Ville that spot because he could have

948
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: gone to Denver as Mike Shanahan I think went to

949
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 4: Denver and they wanted him over there and they just

950
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 4: just resigned him. So they made him the man no

951
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: matter what. So, uh, I'm gonna take the stream. I

952
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: ain't play as much, but I knew things were fading,

953
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 4: and I only had a one year deal. I didn't

954
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 4: resign and I wasn't playing. I didn't want to want to.

955
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 4: That's another thing. I didn't want to play special teams.

956
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: I wasn't a special team player. That's how I felt.

957
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 4: I'm a starter, and that was my mindset, and you

958
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 4: know it shouldn't have been like that. You know, I

959
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: should have just said embrace being a special team player

960
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: as well, but I just didn't like that because man,

961
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: they get tired too quick. You'd be playing on everything

962
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 4: and like, b Mitch, I'm like, I don't know how

963
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 4: he did that. Mitchell's on every special team and then

964
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: he'll come play. See Mitch is a machine. Yeah he

965
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: created Bruh. Anytime you throw a touchdown in college, you

966
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: run over to the other sideline and to start doing

967
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 4: push ups in front of him. Something wrong with your mentor.

968
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: Crazy? He's so crazy?

969
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, man, I felt had I

970
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 5: embraced being a special team but I probably would have

971
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 5: played another five years.

972
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: But it's it's a blessing that you were able to

973
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: leave on your own accord, because again there's people that

974
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: do not leave that field on their own.

975
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: You know.

976
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 4: I was taking that when I was what the forty

977
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 4: nine ers, I was actually taking studying for it to

978
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 4: be a personal trainer. Uh ccs would our guy here

979
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 4: Dan not Dann Raley but Phil Fielding. He had a company.

980
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 4: So I was studying every night to do that because

981
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: I knew my time was coming, and just I was like,

982
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: I wasn't having fun because at anytime you you you start

983
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 4: putting all this political stuff in front of me. I

984
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: ain't having fun. And when I got to the Raiders,

985
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: I tell you my list thing with them. So George

986
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: Carris was there GM He calls me, hey, well, once

987
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: you come to the Raiders, you know, training camp. Okay,

988
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 4: this is the first one. I'll go over there. And

989
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 4: I knew I didn't want to go over there. When

990
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: I got there, Oh my god, dude me, all these

991
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: fancy cars and weren't nobody serious about playing? And they

992
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 4: think and again when I went there, I felt like

993
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: I hit rock bottom because it's like when you go

994
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 4: to the Raiders at this point, at that point in time,

995
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 4: it's like rock bottom. And you could tell because it

996
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: wasn't nobody serious about playing. It was all about money

997
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 4: and driving cars, not serious about their game. So uh

998
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: that I didn't finish that year. I got cut in

999
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: training training camp. So I said, okay, I'm I'm done.

1000
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and do my personally. I was

1001
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: running track too, do my procetrating and running track. And

1002
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: so that year go by, another year, come up call

1003
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 4: me again. I was like, nah, I ain't doing that.

1004
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 4: So nah, I told my wife if they call, don't

1005
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 4: answer the phone. So they called about three times and

1006
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: she accidentally answered it. And I told you, and George goes, hey,

1007
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: we want to I said, nah, I'm good. I said, no, no, God,

1008
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: you know, I said, I I got a Hamstreet problem

1009
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 4: because I did I kind of pull my hamstring. He said, well,

1010
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 4: we know you got family and Sano sid you can

1011
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: stay there for a little bit and you and I'm

1012
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: like whatever. So I go out there and I'm there

1013
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: for about maybe maybe a week, and I didn't I

1014
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: didn't unpack my stuff, and I was like, man, I'm

1015
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 4: not having fun. And Bruce Allen was the gym, so

1016
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: I said. I was sitting there in my dorm. I

1017
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: think I called my wife. I said, how would you

1018
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 4: feel if I just not playing it?

1019
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 3: Hm?

1020
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: HM said you know, I don't care. You know, do

1021
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 4: what you do what you feel. So I said, I'm

1022
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 4: not having fun. So to I go. I go to Bruce.

1023
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: I say, man, I love this game, but I'm not

1024
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 4: in love with it. I need to be doing something else.

1025
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 4: And he said, well, no, okay, okay, I tell you what.

1026
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 4: Just take a week off. I know, you got people

1027
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: in San Jose and you know, stay for a little bit.

1028
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: I said, Noah, that's time for I'm gonna go.

1029
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1030
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 4: I left. And then I told myself, I said, if

1031
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: I go to a game and when I leave it

1032
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: because when you got the game, you're gonna feel it,

1033
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: you gonna smell that grass. I want to play, I said,

1034
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 4: but when I leave this stadium and I'm still thinking

1035
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 4: about this, then I need to be playing. And I

1036
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: don't know what game I went to my first game,

1037
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: but I went and when I left the stadium, I

1038
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 4: wasn't thinking about it, not on my mind. I said, Okay,

1039
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 4: I don't need this game, tomore. I have my fun.

1040
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: I did what the Lord gave me.

1041
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: You know.

1042
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: Now it's telling me to do something else. And I've

1043
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: been doing my personal training since ninety six, you know,

1044
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 4: and other things. But I had a lot of fun,

1045
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: you know, and meet people like be Mitch Great, Oh

1046
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: my god, it's just you know g Man and Gary

1047
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 4: Clark Man. I love. I'm glad you're doing this because

1048
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: I like tellim to telling these stories about my induction

1049
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: and Gary Clark and Coach Gibbs and how he you know,

1050
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: he was born again Christian and so may be miss

1051
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 4: talking at mini camp and he said, yeah, I said,

1052
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: I want you to watch this now. So coach Gibbs,

1053
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 4: they say he's a born again Christian. Ain't don't like cussing,

1054
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 4: came Cusser Rocker, he said, but watch what happened in

1055
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: eighty four roper Pants. He said, just watch what happened

1056
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: so and it just so happened. We in team Gary

1057
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: runs the street, Mark throws it and he misses it.

1058
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 4: He dropped every f bomb you could think of. And

1059
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: I turned to look at I'm looking at Gibbs like this.

1060
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: He ain't said nothing, and I'm like, didn't you just

1061
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: tell me? Brian Dady he said, Ji could do it

1062
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 4: thing he want to. He's that due. I said, oh,

1063
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: and I see why because he is different, you know,

1064
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,479
Speaker 4: and so but g was the only guy that can cuss.

1065
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 4: Can't nobody else.

1066
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: To this day. He lives by rules. And we love

1067
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: Gary Ricky man. I love these walks down memory lanes

1068
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: and then closing and you look behind us. Get this,

1069
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 3: Oh I got you man. I made this for You'll

1070
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: make sure you get it. And you know we talk

1071
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Speaker 3: about all this. You get to reminisce when you sit

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Speaker 3: and talk, when you sit and look at these photos,

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Speaker 3: and you sit and think about those Super Bowls? What

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Speaker 3: do you want Ricky Irving's legacy to be?

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Speaker 4: Man? I never thought about that, man, but I always

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Speaker 4: want to when I leave this game and not I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't want it to be about me just playing football,

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Speaker 4: but me doing other things. Because I'm very good with people,

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Speaker 4: So that's why I wanted to train it. So I

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Speaker 4: want people to when they think of Ricky, that mean

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Speaker 4: he's a funny dude. He loves working with people, he

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Speaker 4: loves working with kids, and he just loved to have fun.

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Speaker 4: To me, that's and I got two beautiful daughters, beautiful wife.

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Speaker 4: My best friends been my part in a sense, I

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Speaker 4: want to say, what ninety one? That's my dog, man,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, then I'm a I'm a lover. But guy, man,

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Speaker 4: you mean to tell you that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know that for being able to kick

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Speaker 3: you with you, man, I mean I think the fans

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Speaker 3: are going to be able to see a different side

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Speaker 3: of you. I don't know how many times you've gotten

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Speaker 3: a chance to tell these stories, man, but I appreciate

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Speaker 3: you so much for taking the time, and this is

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Speaker 3: the first of many. I feel like we got a

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Speaker 3: lot more than I wanted to the corner you right

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Speaker 3: off the street. Now now I know that I won't

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Speaker 3: we bother you.

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Speaker 4: We can do it.

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Speaker 3: Comved this family, our Next Man Up, Suer Bowl champion

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Speaker 3: and just an amazing human being. Ricky Irvins our Next

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Speaker 3: Man thank you so much for your time, bro, man.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. And I ain't mean to get emotional, man,

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Speaker 4: but sometimes we talk about certain things. It can't help.

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Speaker 3: But see that's that's the beauty of this show is

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Speaker 3: we we open that space for you. It's a safe

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Speaker 3: space because at the end of the day, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: afate this big strong man, but you're a human being. Man,

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Speaker 3: you are a human being and you are allowed to

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Speaker 3: feel whatever because you went through these things and fought

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Speaker 3: hard and you earned that. Brother, So there's no when

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Speaker 3: you would BC let them tears Flypall. I'll cry with you, brother,

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Speaker 3: Comanda Family, our Next Man Up. Ricky Irvis, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much, Commanded family. We hope you enjoyed this episode

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Speaker 3: of Next Man Up. Remember you can stream all of

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Speaker 3: the Next Man Up episodes right now on the Commander's

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Speaker 3: YouTube page or the audio wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for supporting the Next Man Up Podcast.

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Speaker 3: You allowed us to be nominated for not one, but

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Speaker 3: two People's Choice Podcast Awards, Best Male Hosted and Best

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Speaker 3: Black Male Hosted Podcast. And that's all because of the

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Speaker 3: best fans in the NFL. I appreciate y'all so much

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Speaker 3: for supporting us. It's crazy to think we're already in

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Speaker 3: season three of Next Man Up.