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Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Stuff Podcast. I'm deep in the desert,

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Speaker 1: as you can tell on YouTube. There's a cactus behind me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in my friend's apartment. I'm in the conference

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Speaker 1: room of his apartment complex. I don't even really know

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Speaker 1: they understand it. It's ninety five degrees in here. They

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Speaker 1: have no ac running in a state that is currently

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ten degrees outside. It's blowing my mind.

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Speaker 1: But Mets somehow, somehow win this series from the Diamondbacks,

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Speaker 1: and yet the season feels over for some people. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We'll talk about everything that went on. It

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Speaker 1: was a chaotic, chaotic series from start to finish. There

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Speaker 1: was just ups and downs, left and rights and a

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Speaker 1: lot of things to talk about. As always, you guys

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Speaker 1: know the drill. If you are enjoying what you're listening

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Speaker 1: download and subscribe. James, I told you the weather out here.

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Speaker 1: It's a brisk one ten. The sun is hurting my skin.

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Speaker 1: It is so hot. How is it in New York.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to get a little jealous for once in

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Speaker 1: my life about New York weather.

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Speaker 2: Well, Wednesday was like classic New York August. You're humid, hot,

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Speaker 2: ninety five, like just sweat all day. But today the

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Speaker 2: humidity broke a little bit in the city. Let's step

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Speaker 2: me through the breeze. I listened to the end of

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Speaker 2: the Mets game in my hammock, the beautiful sounds of

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Speaker 2: Keith rad and Pat McCarthy taking me home for Jose

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Speaker 2: Lazy's game winning hit. I feel pretty good. I I

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Speaker 2: we talked a lot last night because we were just

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Speaker 2: so dejected. I'm sure many of you guys were like,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to start there and then we'll get

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Speaker 2: to the good stuff. But just the way the Mets lost,

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Speaker 2: I hate to talk about the loss. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the wins maybe just to get the loss out of

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Speaker 2: the way, because now I think things feel a lot

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Speaker 2: better than it did. But I uh, when Edwin Diaz

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Speaker 2: gave up the home run the courtman Garl. I sat

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Speaker 2: I wasn't even watching TV anymore. I was like staring

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Speaker 2: any water, I didn't have anything. I was just staring

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Speaker 2: so dejected and so sad. And they brought it all

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Speaker 2: back every time we're out. That palls back in every

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Speaker 2: single time this year. It's so fucking stupid.

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Speaker 1: For context, for people who don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I am in Arizona. I went to the games. I

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Speaker 1: was there Wednesday night, and I was trying to accomplish

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Speaker 1: with the boys. Shout Dalton, shout out CO for let

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Speaker 1: me stay at their apartment. The nine to nine to

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Speaker 1: nine challenge, And for those of you who are not aware,

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Speaker 1: that is nine hot dogs, nine beers, nine innings of baseball. Now.

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Speaker 1: I tapped out on the nine hot dogs instantly. Micron's

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Speaker 1: stomach cannot handle that, but I did the nine beers,

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Speaker 1: nine beers and nine innings. Co and Dalton nine beers,

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Speaker 1: nine hot dogs like Kings. They got it done easily,

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Speaker 1: no problem. So we're in the ninth inning or eighth inning.

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Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz comes in for Film Mayton, which maybe pulled

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Speaker 2: It's all the Sorry. Then we'll talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Tell the story and uh there's an Instagram story from

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Speaker 1: Coe and he posted it and it's me clapping because

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Speaker 1: get through this, no problem. To Corbyn Carrol. As soon

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Speaker 1: of the bat. Corban Carroll hits a nuke. Everybody's freaking out.

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Speaker 1: You see me, hands in my hand or face hand,

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Speaker 1: And uh, devastated, devastated, And at that moment I truly

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Speaker 1: That was one of the low points of the season,

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Speaker 1: one of the low points in a long time, especially

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Speaker 1: for Edwin Diaz, who has not been himself this year.

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Speaker 1: We know that coming back from a major injury hasn't

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Speaker 1: Rockoball Delli for batching every single game possible. That guy

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Speaker 1: not the case. Point in case here about that game terrible, awful,

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Speaker 1: the storylines to talk about. There is just the fact

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Speaker 2: I fully, and maybe I'm missing the point, maybe I'm

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Speaker 2: focused on the wrong things. I fully could not believe

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Speaker 2: when Carls Mendoza came out of the dugout to pull

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Speaker 2: be tesked with four out saves and not saying that

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Speaker 2: philm Maton's this world either, who has to finish the

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Speaker 2: inning like he's the star? Sound up, man, He's not.

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Speaker 2: It throws eighty emails. Now, there's no reason, but Edwin

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Speaker 2: Diaz hasn't completed a four out save in a month,

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Speaker 2: Why the fuck in that second You're like, I need

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Speaker 2: doing that all the time, and it was totally fine.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a big deal which just happened because it

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Speaker 2: It did seem like part of the issue was that

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Speaker 2: hot Corbyn Carrol, who I know, he's had a bad year.

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Speaker 2: Some people I think are underrating him. But someone who's

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Speaker 2: the day before the four unred and thirty foot home runs.

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Speaker 2: So those two things that happened last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: words of Marris Corsese, he was pure cinema. I'd never

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Speaker 2: seen something that bad. But I can't get past the

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Speaker 2: point Medoza didn't even really answer it. Why the fuck

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Speaker 1: No, it was one of the few times that Mendoza

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Speaker 1: making process was behind that, because like you said in

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Speaker 1: the moment, yes, Edwin Diaz is the better pitcher than

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Speaker 1: he let on, and I don't think like I get

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Speaker 1: it was a one run game. Monday Morning Quarterback Hindsight's

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But the bottom of the order. If philm

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Speaker 1: Maton can't handle that he shouldn't be on this team.

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Speaker 1: He's your eighth inning guy. It's not like you had

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Speaker 1: to me, I felt that felt like Carlos Mendoza and

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Speaker 1: now trying to make up for it now by being

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Speaker 1: uber aggressive. And you're right, Edwin was so not ready.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's snuck into this game. People in the

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Speaker 1: Lavello keeps trying to make Peven Smith work when it's

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Speaker 1: Heeraldo Perdomo, which just a little aside the fact that

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Speaker 1: he sometimes hits the lead off and sometimes hits ninth

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Speaker 1: not a world where that ever makes any sense, where

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Speaker 1: your best hitter can also be your worst hitter in

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Speaker 1: the same regards, I don't get that. But to walk

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Speaker 1: him to and the bat like Edwin was just not attacking.

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Speaker 1: He was not aggressive. And Edwin is at his best

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Speaker 1: when he's attacking the zone, when he's filling up the

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Speaker 1: And even that slider at Cordman Carrol was like just

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Speaker 1: the same thing as Jackson Merrow, literally exact same pitch.

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Speaker 1: And it was like, when we're in the stretch here

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Speaker 1: where we can't afford to lose games, even though again

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Speaker 1: we won the series, these are things that we need

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Speaker 1: from Edwin. He has to be better than and now again,

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Speaker 1: I was at the game on Thursday. Edwin looked better?

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Speaker 1: Was he was he actually better? Did things look better

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Speaker 1: on TV? Because obviously in the stands it's a little

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Speaker 2: dejected from everything happened on Wednesday. But the thing that

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's patting himself on the back there. But

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Speaker 1: Pete had a good series. Alvrez got a couple of

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Speaker 1: big hits, Nimo had three hits on Tuesday. J D

430
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Speaker 1: had a couple of hits. Lindor, I mean, everybody was

431
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Speaker 1: just with smoking the ball made Brandon Fott look like

432
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Speaker 1: not a very good pitcher, which he has been pretty

433
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Speaker 1: much all year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But the big story from that game and the series,

435
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Speaker 2: it comes back to the starting pitching. Mets starting pitching,

436
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Speaker 2: especially Manaiam Peterson has been so fucking good to the

437
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Speaker 2: point where it's like a little bit ridiculed. Yeah, Jeremy

438
00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,680
Speaker 2: after is a legend. This next time into the field,

439
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Speaker 2: I swear to you guys on this podcast, I will

440
00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,639
Speaker 2: be wearing my Hefner jersey so we can take a

441
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Speaker 2: look out for that during the Red Sox series. But

442
00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,040
Speaker 2: it's amazing that Manaia was able to have this breakout

443
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Speaker 2: season make an adjustment in season to lower his lower

444
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Speaker 2: his release height that he said because he watched how

445
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Speaker 2: good Chris Sale was live bring that arm down. Get.

446
00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,520
Speaker 2: I was talking to a guy Mikey mjd analyis on

447
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Speaker 2: Twitter bad They get more deception on his two seamer

448
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,560
Speaker 2: and then be able to get more depth on his

449
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Speaker 2: change up. Got three more inches of vertical break per

450
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Speaker 2: average on his change up on Tuesday compared to the

451
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Speaker 2: rest of his starts this year. That pitch is something

452
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Speaker 2: that he basically scrapped in the first half of the season.

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Speaker 2: Now he's brought back in a big way his last

454
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Speaker 2: four starts since he changed the release point, and it's amazing.

455
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Speaker 2: He gets such extension from such a low release point

456
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Speaker 2: that no other left he's basically besides Chrissell, are able

457
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Speaker 2: to do. So a pitcher sees this, they're not just

458
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Speaker 2: not used to it. It's not something that you're able

459
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Speaker 2: to practice that well. Again, it's not something you see

460
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Speaker 2: very often, so it's just it sneaks up on everybody.

461
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Speaker 2: He had seventeen swings and misses, eleven strikeouts. Brandon Will

462
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Speaker 2: compared him to Jacob fucking de Glom after the game.

463
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Speaker 2: It's just like this guy is operating at a level

464
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Speaker 2: right now where like he's the one and it doesn't

465
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Speaker 2: even feel that bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's He's the one, and I'm like, I

467
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 1: want him back so badly next year. It's it's crazy

468
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Speaker 1: that we live in a world where I'm like Seaman

469
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Speaker 1: and I needs to be back on this team. Like

470
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Speaker 1: pay him, give him the money, because what he's doing

471
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 1: looks sustainable, looks good. There's nothing that makes you worried

472
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Speaker 1: about I mean, there's regression. Of course, he's not going

473
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Speaker 1: to strike out ten eleven batters every single start. That's

474
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Speaker 1: not possible. But there's not really much that makes you

475
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Speaker 1: think that he can't be a good mid rotation frontline

476
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Speaker 1: starter for the Mets in the future.

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Speaker 2: The only thing is it's just the leagu getting a

478
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Speaker 2: little more used to all this new ship he's doing, because,

479
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,880
Speaker 2: like he s wore, he was sowing his bag on Tuesday,

480
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Speaker 2: he was throwing fucking sweepers to the righties, dropping them

481
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Speaker 2: in like a lower inside corner, like it's a called

482
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Speaker 2: strip pick. I was like, who the fuck is this

483
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Speaker 2: guy think he is right now? Like, like, but he's

484
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Speaker 2: pitching with so much confidence, in so much balls. Everything

485
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Speaker 2: was in the strikes. I was like, this is incredible.

486
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Speaker 2: Sixty percent of his pitch he threw, we're in the

487
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Speaker 2: strikes and yeah, got twenty five percent chase rate. It

488
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Speaker 2: was the whift rate was was. I was like, fifty

489
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Speaker 2: percent now thirty three percent, still really fucking good. But

490
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Speaker 2: just he has everything working right now, like he's ascended.

491
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Speaker 2: You made the great point a few episodes ago that

492
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Speaker 2: other pitchers are gonna going to see with Sean and

493
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Speaker 2: Iya and Luis ever and have done this year with

494
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Speaker 2: the Mets and be like, oh, man, I need a

495
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Speaker 2: one year bridge contract. I'm gonna go to the fucking

496
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Speaker 2: Mets and Jeremy Hefner they're gonna fix me for a

497
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Speaker 2: year of them and they get my back because Naya's

498
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Speaker 2: pitched himself like into the Jordan Montgomery tier if last easily,

499
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Speaker 2: like he's going to get four for a hundreds from

500
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Speaker 2: somewhere like that's I think where his I think he's

501
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,239
Speaker 2: his line right now is a three to four year

502
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Speaker 2: deal between twenty two and twenty eight million dollars, and

503
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Speaker 2: I think he might actually be worth it. He's just

504
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 2: like it's he's coming to his own and he's he's

505
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Speaker 2: one of the most fucking he's one of the most

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Speaker 2: important players in this team this season.

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Speaker 1: And again, something we've talked about with pitching on this

508
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Speaker 1: podcast a lot. Sometimes it just takes some time. And

509
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Speaker 1: it seems like for Shawm and I, a guy who

510
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Speaker 1: had the pedigree, was a high rated prospect, had some

511
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Speaker 1: flashes in the Pan with Oakland and in San Diego

512
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Speaker 1: and in San Francisco. Now coming to the Mets his

513
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Speaker 1: fourth team, took a little bit of time, but it

514
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Speaker 1: seems like he's really starting to figure it out and

515
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Speaker 1: boil boy, am I glad he's figuring out this team

516
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 1: because single hand lead keeping this team aflow right now.

517
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Speaker 2: And so it's funny too to look at them the

518
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Speaker 2: way these two teams were constructed in the off season.

519
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Speaker 2: I think people gave the Diamondbacks a lot of the

520
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Speaker 2: credit because after they won the World Series, they pushed

521
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Speaker 2: the chips in hard, which is all, and they gave

522
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Speaker 2: they gave big money to Woduardo Rodriguez, who's like by

523
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Speaker 2: all accounts, but if it was first Rodriguez, I think.

524
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Speaker 2: I think a team like the Diamonbacks that works works

525
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Speaker 2: on a little less of a payroll than big market

526
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Speaker 2: teams like the Mets. They're like, okay, we just had

527
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Speaker 2: an influx of cash from the playoff World Series run.

528
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Speaker 2: Let's go buy a player. They gave it, Rodriguez a

529
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Speaker 2: lot of money in a lot of years, and then

530
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Speaker 2: they lost their TV deal like a third of the

531
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Speaker 2: teams in Major League Baseball, and like a fuck, we

532
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Speaker 2: have to polse the off season. But then they did

533
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Speaker 2: that cool thing. I'm not sure if Talton Co Were

534
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 2: in on this, where they gave people basically season tickets

535
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Speaker 2: like four dollars a game if you bought the whole

536
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Speaker 2: season out. First, they did like a season ticket package

537
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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty bucks in the off season, and

538
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Speaker 2: they got really good, really good response to it, and

539
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Speaker 2: I feel like they then took that money and that's

540
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Speaker 2: how they bought Montgomery. But then you look for a

541
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Speaker 2: second a team like the Diamondbacks side, they have really

542
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Speaker 2: good internal pitching development. Just Brent Strum is one of

543
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Speaker 2: the ghosts. Probably he might be the greatest pitching coach

544
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: ever in history baseball. He's really he's really that good.

545
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Speaker 2: But the fact that this team, who usually kind of

546
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Speaker 2: cuts it close with payroll, they gave this big money

547
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Speaker 2: in these big, bigger years, not much Montgomery, more Rodriguez

548
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: to Montgomery Rodriguez, where the Mets got these one year

549
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: rental deals to Manaya and sev Reno are getting significantly

550
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: more production, They're significantly more effective, and they have significantly

551
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Speaker 2: I almost wished out these guys are two years of each,

552
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Speaker 2: but they probably didn't want to sign them. But it's

553
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Speaker 2: just it's just interesting going about these off seasons, how

554
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: how they're viewed in the moment. And now we're in

555
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Speaker 2: August about to be September of the playoff race and

556
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Speaker 2: the Diamonbacks probably, Like I wish we inside either of

557
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: these guys.

558
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Speaker 1: Dude, if they had Severino Mania, They're they're clearly winning

559
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: the National League West right now. It's signing close.

560
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Speaker 2: But also the way like Ryan Nelson has ascended and

561
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Speaker 2: like Brandon Fodds had much better the year. I know,

562
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 2: hit the bats start on Tuesday, but much better the year.

563
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Speaker 2: It's like it, So why'd you do if you can

564
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: do those two things much better? I don't know, why

565
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Speaker 2: the fuck do you thinks Montgomery looks fucking awful?

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Montgomery looks really bad. I mean he actually had

567
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Speaker 1: his best like appearance of the year against the coming

568
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Speaker 1: into relief. He didn't give a better runs, which is

569
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Speaker 1: funny because he came in with the bases loaded, proceeded

570
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: to hit Tyrone Taylor, then let the other two inherited runners, Yeah,

571
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Speaker 1: the other two inherited runners score, and then he didn't

572
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: let up a run the rest of the game. Brandon

573
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Speaker 1: Fots gotta be sting on the bench like you're killing me. Bro.

574
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Speaker 1: I got arbitration coming up, and now those are three

575
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Speaker 1: more runs on my docket. Fuck you.

576
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Speaker 2: It probably cost him like forty thousand dollars in that shot.

577
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Speaker 2: But when Montgomery did that, also her all the Prodomo,

578
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Speaker 2: former All Star, can't forget her all the per dooma

579
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Speaker 2: National League All Star, never forget, didn't do many favors.

580
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Speaker 2: And also the Mets were pelting the ball every single

581
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Speaker 2: learning off my Garmery just finding it finding gloves like

582
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Speaker 2: that was not something I think you can build on

583
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Speaker 2: that mentally because he didn't le any of your own run score.

584
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Speaker 2: But you go back and look at the iPad like

585
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Speaker 2: I still wasn't think my spots, I'm still not effective.

586
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Speaker 2: But that was I think really big for the Mets

587
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Speaker 2: to come out after the game in San Diego, after

588
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Speaker 2: the off day and just hit the piss out of

589
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Speaker 2: the ball is what they needed to do. That's what

590
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Speaker 2: they did. We had seven combined hits from the top

591
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Speaker 2: three guys in the other Lador just keeps going Nimo

592
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Speaker 2: on this years and thinks swung the bat a little better,

593
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Speaker 2: but just this was necessary. And then I felt like

594
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Speaker 2: it was moving into Wednesday and it was gonna be

595
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Speaker 2: all okay, and sev Reno had like not the best.

596
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 2: Sorry he had that one bad ending but he still

597
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: missed tons of bats, more sweepers again. He just he

598
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 2: seems like he's getting better as the season goes on

599
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: in a way, which is amazing for guys only throwing

600
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Speaker 2: a hundred seventyinnings one time in the last six fucking years.

601
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: So it's just it with all the guys in this team.

602
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: I feel like the happiest for Luis Severino because he

603
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: looks like he has such a fucking vigor to play

604
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: baseball again. It looked like it was gone those last

605
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: couple of years with the Yankees, and just like, this

606
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: is really cool to see. But then we botched that

607
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Speaker 2: when we blew it. But all the credit in the

608
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Speaker 2: world for doing it again on Thursday winning.

609
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Speaker 1: And I gotta say the offense too, even on Wednesday,

610
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Speaker 1: they stepped up when we needed it, Like they were

611
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Speaker 1: a little bit cold to start the game against e Rod.

612
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Speaker 1: It took them the second time through the order. But

613
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Speaker 1: then you got the big hits. You got the two

614
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Speaker 1: run home run by what was a JD? I think right,

615
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Speaker 1: JD hit the home o there beither oh baiters, it

616
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Speaker 1: was batter. Okay, it's having a lot of beers in

617
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Speaker 1: a very short amount of time, So I was I

618
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Speaker 1: was doing a lot of socializing during that. But he

619
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Speaker 1: hit the big home run. Marte scored on that sackfly

620
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Speaker 1: that people were overreacting to Charling Martes stealing a run there, I.

621
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Speaker 2: Don't think people are reacting. He did steal a run

622
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Speaker 2: on his own. No, that was that was really good play.

623
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Speaker 1: It was good play. I'm not saying it wasn't a

624
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Speaker 1: good play. But everyone's acting like Starling Marte is still

625
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Speaker 1: the Starling Marte of old were like ninety percentile sprint speed.

626
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Speaker 1: He is one of the slower players right now in

627
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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: I know this an issue with sprint speed though, where

629
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Speaker 2: it just tracks like how fast you're going from home

630
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Speaker 2: to first and Stoli Marte never tries running. But it's

631
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Speaker 2: maxx use it. It's I don't think that's true.

632
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's what people were telling me. It's Max,

633
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Speaker 1: all right.

634
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Speaker 2: The most positive was not but we'll agree this greet

635
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Speaker 2: favor looking up to Live on the show as bad,

636
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: but it was. He did do a lot to get

637
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Speaker 2: that run. That run was was vital and if the

638
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: Mets didn't blow that game, that would have been the

639
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Speaker 2: pay everyone had been talking about Starliy Martes saying the mats.

640
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Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say.

641
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Speaker 2: That slide was also sick as fuck, and you sick

642
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Speaker 2: you weren't watching. Keith was so pissed off and Adrian

643
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: Delcasio was missing that tag. He was like yelling. He

644
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: was like, really, oh, you gotta get that tag down,

645
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: young man. Oh my god, the outfielder got you throw there.

646
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: That's a big run. He was like, what are you doing?

647
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: He's like the balls in your glove getting front of

648
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: the plate, young man. It was.

649
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: It was funny, kind of kind of can't get in

650
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: from of the plate anymore. They'd probably call blocking the plate.

651
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: I think with the ball you can, you can. But

652
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: they also they make up whatever rules they want. It's

653
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: it's it's a day that ends in why they'll change

654
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: how the rules work. We know how that goes. Sometimes

655
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: you're blocking the base, sometimes you're not. Doesn't really matter

656
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: with the umpires. Also shout out Justin Steele. You know,

657
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: he had siky stuff on his hands. And I was

658
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: gonna say it for Medium Marvels on Sunday, but why the

659
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: fun not talk about it now? Yeah, go wash your

660
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: hands go wash your hands. I think is that racism?

661
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: It could be I'm down racism. I'm down Edwin Diaz

662
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: he didn't like it. Max Scherzer didn't like it. Just

663
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: well he's the same race. But yeah, that was metsism. Metsism.

664
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: That was that. That really was insane. I don't know

665
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: why there's not a uniform thing. And we did bring

666
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: this up when the Mets, because the Mets have never

667
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 1: been given opportunities they want. They let schures Or wash

668
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: his hand, then still injected him. Drew Smith didn't get

669
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: to wash his hand, and when Diaz didn't get to

670
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: wash his hand. It's actually insane. How many guys of

671
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: the Mets have been hit and it's the same fucking

672
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: umpires every single time. That's the other really weird thing.

673
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: Check his Caesar sports book app. That's all I'm saying.

674
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, helly know. But still the Chaos series, I feel

675
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: like I'm catching your chaos from just being there. That

676
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: makes you a little crazy, makes it a little crazy.

677
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: Awes this this weather and a lack of hydration because

678
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of a lot of beer, a

679
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of cores banquet. Okay, Chase Field

680
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: one really cool thing that they do. They have value beers,

681
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: so you get like a can of beer twelve ounce

682
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: for four dollars or five dollars, which is great. That's

683
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: a fantastic every game, every single game.

684
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: You can get five dollars beer there. Every single game.

685
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: Had three today, Like there's just for five dollars, incredible deal.

686
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: And then they have the value hot dogs that are

687
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: I think two fifty or three dollars apiece. Incredible. That's

688
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: discussing why you guys.

689
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: Did nine for nine.

690
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: That's why it's just a it's just a value play there.

691
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: And then they have value popcorn, they have value pretzel,

692
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: like this is this is everything. The Mets need to

693
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: actually adopt this because you can still get your tall

694
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: boys for fifteen dollars at the stadium if you want to,

695
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: like an idiot like a shlub or you can get

696
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: six cores, banquets or bush They had bush light at

697
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: the stadium. I couldn't even believe that. I've never seen

698
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: bush light paid for at a stadium. That's that's insane.

699
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: Well, no, if you've ever scrolled on Instagram, the Mets

700
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: want to have luxury in the ballpark. Miss that part.

701
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: You need luxury, you need wealth to come to the

702
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: Mets get paid twenty five hours for a fucking beer.

703
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: I think that is part of why what the Dynamacs

704
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: did with the with the value season tickets as well,

705
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: like ge get fans in the ballpark because it gets

706
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: some action, especially in a team that is good and

707
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: just went to the fucking World Series.

708
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Weird. A lot of chirping from Diamondbacks fans the last

709
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: two days for me, shout out a lot of a

710
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: lot of Mets fans out the game, which was cool,

711
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: like especially on the Mets First Space side, tons of

712
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: Mets fans. The Mets fans showed up. Was a great place.

713
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: You want to spend some time out here. I highly

714
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: recommend it. Maybe not in August, but it's a great place.

715
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: Pop popular place for the Witness Protection program.

716
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: Oh great place, great place for a couple of Italians

717
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: to go to go hide away from all their worries.

718
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: But then if you're all hiding here, is it actually

719
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: a good place to hide? That's that's the weird back

720
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: and forth. But lots of Mets fans, a lot of

721
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: diamonback fans chirping though a lot of fuck the Mets

722
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: chance a lot of like just scream night all the

723
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: fuck back to New York. I was like, listen, first off,

724
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: Scott still doesn't exist unless New Yorkers like us go

725
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: out west. So just remember that first and foremost. Your

726
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: fucking desert city wouldn't exist without us too. Why why

727
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: do you hate us? We have no animosity towards each

728
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: other besides Todd Pratt hitting a game winning home run

729
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: against you in ninety nine. No, they can't beat us.

730
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: We've won the season series against the Diamondbacks now going

731
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: on six straight years. They literally can't be it own.

732
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: We own the Diamondbacks. Is this like when we play

733
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and we know but we hate we have

734
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: a reason to hate them. Who's this like for us?

735
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: Uh that we hate? That doesn't hate us?

736
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: Padres Padres?

737
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe the Padres the Braves.

738
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: Maybe we have a reason to hate the Braves, Like,

739
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: there's no reason we're not rivals with the Diamondback.

740
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: So we've only lost three games to Diamondbacks this year.

741
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: Two of them were just simply Edwin Diaz giving up

742
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: a home run the night of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

743
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: it's great.

744
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of games has given up

745
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: a home run of the ninth th inning, and we

746
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: our sandings look a lot different.

747
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: God damn it. But all right, I mean, any other

748
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: positive we could pull from this years quickly looked really good.

749
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: The sweeper was awesome. The finally after the whole season,

750
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: he finally done the change up. I've been waiting for

751
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: it for six fucking months. Here he was throwing change

752
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: ups to the lefties. I was like, who is this

753
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: guy throwing change ups? That was really exciting because Dimbag's

754
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: been like a full left hand linep because Severno. Yeah,

755
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: it was amazing. They had that many lefties on the

756
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: roster to do that, and he was mixing the col

757
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: end he was doing the change up. I was like, Wow,

758
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: I didn't know this guy was still here.

759
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: Some other positives Jose Glaciers big hit on Thursday, getting

760
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: the go ahead hit, Francisco Indoor, still playing MVP level,

761
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: getting MVP chants in Arizona. That was really cool. And

762
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: again I think we've we've been asking for other guys

763
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: to step up in this series. They did. They had

764
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: ten hits on Thursday, they scored five runs on Wednesday,

765
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: they scored eight runs. On Tuesday, Like the offense now

766
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: is actually starting to click. Just need that bullpend to

767
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: keep it together. Also, the ball flies out here. I

768
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: know that's known. I know they used the human door thing,

769
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: but it's crazy the way the ball just jumps off

770
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: of bats here. Pete hit a couple balls, especially on Thursday.

771
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: There was one where I thought he was out in

772
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: front of it, hit off the end of the bat

773
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: at Jake mccarthin did great jumping catches. Oh when that

774
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: far he couldn't believe it, dude.

775
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: Even McNeil's double that he hit, it was like the

776
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: fifth inning that he hit to him the right center.

777
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: Crush that ball and messait three balls over four hundred feet,

778
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: which is nuts and not even that wasn't Lindor's homer.

779
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: But also Winker looked like Gooding and Nimo had two

780
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: multi hit games this series, and he drew a couple

781
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: of walks. Like everything looks like the lineup is is

782
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: finding its white even for Cisc Galvarez shut him out

783
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: finding the opposite field. He is a singles hitter, and

784
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: that's all he will ever be in all we ever

785
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: wanted to be. That That's how he has to do it.

786
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: You're not a high power sports card. Just be a

787
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: camera for a little while. He he didn't watch any

788
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: games TV. Gallp said he talked to him first. Gallup

789
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: stole Tim Healy quote he doesn't feel powerful and didn't

790
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: credit him so shout out saw the Moonface for that one,

791
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: but he said that he talked to Alvers and Alva said,

792
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: this is the most frustrated he's ever been his life playing.

793
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: I believe it.

794
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: He said, he has never ever been this bad for

795
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: this long ever, and he doesn't know. He said, mentally

796
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: it's worse than physically because he doesn't no how to

797
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: deal with not being the best.

798
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: I could tell I can tell you how. Stop listening

799
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: the guy giving you the fucking advice who made you

800
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: into a terrible hitter. It's that simple. Remember how you

801
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: were really good, go back to what you were doing.

802
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Don't worry about what Eric Shava says. It's that simple.

803
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just other little nitpicky things. I think

804
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: if if Marte is going to be so bad on

805
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: defense he has to come out of every game the

806
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: seventh inning, I think it's hard to justify him hitting

807
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: high up in the order.

808
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: It's also just hard to justify him hitting up there anyway,

809
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: because he is not one of the eight best hitters

810
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: on this team.

811
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: It's probably like the fifth best hitter in the team.

812
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: I think that's really fair. But it's it's hard when

813
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: when ty like I don't want Tyron Taylor Harrison Bay

814
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: there to have to come in like have a huge

815
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: at bat at night th inning. I just don't want

816
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: that to happen. And the bullpen shaky enough that every

817
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: game is still in play. That's hard. That's like just

818
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: an added thing to justify him hitting a high It's

819
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: kind of frustrating for me. Other other thing, what else

820
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: we got? I mean, pizza look really good, looks like

821
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: he's coming back. The Lindora pit at bat was fucking incredible.

822
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: So all the the last like two percent of the

823
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: pigmies that are like, oh will he's not doing any

824
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: clutch situations? All right? Well yeah he did. He did

825
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: it again. He took him run a tight the game

826
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: in the sixth, ending a game that was literally a

827
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: must win game. This game, yeah, and eleven pitch bad,

828
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: most pitches he's ever seen in that bad in his career,

829
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: but ended in a home run.

830
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, good stat there.

831
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Gary had that one the broadcast ready to go.

832
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: But it's just it was it's nice to see as

833
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: bad as this team keeps playing, how much they keep battling.

834
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: And also again, fucking David Peterson. So this guy is

835
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: fucking unbelievable. I don't even know how he's doing it.

836
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: It's like even this game, it was like it wasn't

837
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: even tons of ground balls. It was eleven out of

838
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 2: twenty balls in play, a couple of pop ups, but

839
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: like it just seemed like the Diamonbacks huge double play.

840
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: Also shout out, shout out Kevin Newman being in this lineup.

841
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: That's just when you when you're playing a game baseball

842
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: and you see Kevin Newman healder for Dome on the

843
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: other side, you can really relax a little bit.

844
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that, because obviously I'm at the

845
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: game with Dalton Coe, two Diamondbacks fans, and like Kevin

846
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: Newman's in the game. I was like, this is insane

847
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: that this guy's are mb roster. He's had some big hits. Man,

848
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: he's a good little ballplayer. You want him on your bench, Like, no,

849
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 1: you don't, you don't want Kevin Newman, it's fine, Like

850
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, as your last play will also have

851
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: Luiski or May on this roster and Heroldover like they're

852
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: just like what if we what if we cloned you

853
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: and got worse and worse with the clone as we

854
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: go down from our starter down to our last guy.

855
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 2: I don't know it been. This Diamondbacks team is good,

856
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: but they're definitely not a Jugger.

857
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: N Like, I think the Padres are better. I think

858
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: the Padres are definitely better than them.

859
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: The pad is playing not good baseball anymore.

860
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: What what happened?

861
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: They got walked off against his Cardinals on Tuesday? They

862
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: lost against the Cardinals on Thursday, they lost again today

863
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: the Cardinals aren't eating up Sony Gray shut them down.

864
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: Good Padres lost, But I was looking at this before.

865
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: They had the one, two, three, four, five. They had

866
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: the five hardest hit balls in the game and they lost.

867
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: That's about right good. You know what, the tides can

868
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: turn a little bit. Those two teams have been incredibly hot,

869
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: between the Diamondbacks and Padres.

870
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: Oh, the Braves would score again, damn it. And also

871
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: you talked to you about Rockaball Delly before, just to

872
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: gave Mets fans some insight and how the Twins blew

873
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: the game against the Braves on Wednesday night. So David Festa,

874
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: we saw him last month, good little pitcher, Jersey kids

875
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: seat and shout out seat in Hall and Seaton Hall Prep.

876
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: So we're a local kid for you and I Mark.

877
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: But he was pitching the best part of his career.

878
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: He's never completed six innings ever as a major leaguer.

879
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: He got through six innings. He gave up a home

880
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: run to Horice Hilaire in a fastball in the first inning,

881
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: and he said after that, fuck my fastball. He threw

882
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: like twenty three more slides and fastballs. The rest of

883
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: the game was dominant the Braves. Geo Rachell and with

884
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: Maryfield we're nowhere close to slaniling every single at bat

885
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: and Luke Williams playing third base for the Braves. Rockaball

886
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: Delis tried to get cute and pushed Festa out for

887
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: the seventh inning. Festa had the seventh pitch, No, I

888
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: think a nine pitch at bad against Ozuna to start

889
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: the inning. Fucking could have touched him out. Blue didn't

890
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: give him two borderline pitches.

891
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: Does he immediately takes Mauna hit his wife.

892
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: I know then he can caught drunk driving also, so

893
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: it's endangers to the people. And oh, someone just walked

894
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: behind you, looked into the conference room.

895
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Nice, let's go ye like that.

896
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: But so yeah, then he walked Ozuna on tough at bat,

897
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: takes Matt immediately. Four pitches later, metal Alison double next

898
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: batted double Braves win the game by four runs. So yeah,

899
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: fuck rockaball Delly for that one.

900
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: Oh no, brockleball Deli is single handedly and I've been

901
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: saying this pretty much since he's got there, you're single

902
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: handedly keeping the Twins away from ever being a perennial

903
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: threat in the American League. They got everything there except

904
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the manager. That guy is stupid. There's no way around it.

905
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: All.

906
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: It's just another just quick looking stuff from Peterson. It's

907
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: just I think he's finally might have found some command,

908
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: which is amazing for him. I think that's the thing

909
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: that's always been missing, this kind of thing we talk

910
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: about where sometimes it just takes a while, where the

911
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: change ups were stayed low. Mostly the sinkers. A couple

912
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: of them still found the harp, but they weren't really

913
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: the sliders really good in the back foot. It's just

914
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: every single fastball he threw seemingly was on the edge

915
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: or just like right the guy's eyes, the top of

916
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: the strike zone. He just he's moving the ball around

917
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: really well, and all the peripherals still suck. Of course,

918
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: there's going there's going to be one bad start when

919
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: we really need him most at the end of the year,

920
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: just to remind everyone. But it's just a good little

921
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: pitcher and someone who I think we could be mildly

922
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: confident being like a four or five next year.

923
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Definitely. I know Peterson's really done a great job this year.

924
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Super impressed with how he has looked. All right, let's

925
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: go ahead and get to a little quick prosper report

926
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: because we have September call ups coming up. September one,

927
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: the rosters expand. You're allowed to add one pitcher and

928
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: one hitter, and the Mets definitely could use one of each.

929
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: So let's talk about some possible candidates to make it

930
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: on up. I feel like we got to start with

931
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: Drew Gilbert, who's been playing well.

932
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been that privy to the

933
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: news recently, but they've said basically without fails. Team be

934
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: Louis on Helicunyah. Really, yeah, you're not plugged in, You're

935
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: in the desert. Yeah, Dicomo, there's no Wi Fi out here.

936
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: Mendoza basically he said that loud. He was like, Yeah,

937
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna bring someone up and we're gonna we're gonna

938
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: really value positional flexibility and athleticism and speed, Luis on Helcunya,

939
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: Louis on Helicunya. So I wanted to like spend this

940
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: time talking about Louis and Helcunya, and as we've done

941
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: this entire year, temper mets fans expectations for who he

942
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: has as a Louis James. He's jestly with Merrifield. I

943
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: wanted to tell you what he is and what he

944
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: because it doesn't have any bearing up maybe what he

945
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: can be in the future or what he ever will

946
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: be years from now. But Luisa Hilcunia right now is

947
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: the age of a college senior and he's gonna be

948
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: playing Major League Baseball. And I think the biggest reason

949
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna be on this team are those things that

950
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: Mendoza said, athleticism, traditional flexibility, and also the fact that

951
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 2: he is on the Mets forty man roster already because

952
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: he was international signing. He's been he was in the

953
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: Rangers organization, so he was already on there forty man roster.

954
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: So I think that's critical. And since these things have

955
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: been said, Luis and helicunya is he's nine for fifteen

956
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: at the plate with a home run and a couple

957
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: of RBIs and a couple of runs score and a

958
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: couple stolen bases. So I think he's he's ready for

959
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: the moment, and after his really really bad April, like,

960
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: I do have to give him some credit. I've give

961
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: him some credit all year, but he has been pretty okay.

962
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: He's a two seventy hitter with how many home runs here?

963
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: Only only only four homers still with UH eleven, eleven

964
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: doubles and two triples. But he is He's not coming

965
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: to this team to be any kind of hero, No,

966
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: Louis and Helicunia is coming to the team to be

967
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: a player that mixes in on the bench and that

968
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: does some things other guys in the roster can't do

969
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: and bring like a little bit of zest to this

970
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 2: roster that I think needs.

971
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: Some Yeah, No, I mean We've seen what White Rice

972
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: with Mayfield has done to the Braves, and he's been

973
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: incredible with them. Since going to that team, he's been

974
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: really good. He's been helping them a ton. He has

975
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: the ability to make an impact, but not be the impact,

976
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, Like he's not here to be

977
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: the impact. He's not here to fix whatever is going on,

978
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: to solve all the problems. But he has the ability

979
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: because of the athleticism, because of his flexibility, because of

980
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: the I don't want to say the intangibles, it is

981
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: not the right word, but because of the high excitement

982
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: plays he can make. He can change a game in

983
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: the moment with what is ass Yeah, a little zesty

984
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: with Maryfield again with Maryfield's White Rice, Luis on Hellacune's Jumbalaya,

985
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: like he got a little bit more in that's fun.

986
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's I think it is again important temper

987
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: expectations of who he is. This is not his brother

988
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: this time, will never be his brother. Holy shit, I

989
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: think he's five inches shorter than his brother. Though, like

990
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: Louis and Helicoon, you could definitely grow into a player

991
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: that's a really acceptable Major leaguer. He can be someone

992
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: who maybe starts a second base or center field and

993
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: can play the corners. He can play shorts up in

994
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: a pinch, He's gonna put the ball and play a lot.

995
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: He's not often going to be patient wait for walks.

996
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: He's going to expand the strike so more than you

997
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: want a play or too. He doesn't have great power,

998
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: but that's not because he doesn't have great like he'll

999
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: put on his show in batting practice, yes, but he's not.

1000
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: He loses his his pitch selection, and that doesn't allow

1001
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: him to get to his natural power because he'll hit

1002
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: the ball on the ground too much. He'll be pitched

1003
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: as rex and he'll chase, He'll flail, He'll he'll swing

1004
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: down on the ball. He does have power, but he's

1005
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: not able to get to it in a game. He

1006
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: will get on base and he'll be looking to steal.

1007
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: He's he's athletic, he's twitchy, he's fast, but he's not

1008
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: coming here to save the day. He's not his brother.

1009
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: He's not an MVP.

1010
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: He not his brother. He's not his brother. He's not

1011
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: an All Stars. He's not who he is. He's a

1012
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: good ballplayer.

1013
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: He is his brother, but he's not gonna play like

1014
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: his brother.

1015
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna act like his brother, which I piss

1016
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: some people off, which is actually that's yeah, but I

1017
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: say I just I hate I Also it's I think

1018
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: he really is just happy because he's on the forty

1019
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: man roster, and I think the Mets want a lot

1020
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: more of these forty men spots stay open for pitcher flexibility,

1021
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: and they don't. They're not ready to cut Alex Ramirez yet,

1022
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: so I think that's just why he's not going to

1023
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: be Drew Gilbert. But I still I think would prefer

1024
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: for Drew Gilbert because I hate Starling Marte truthfully. Yeah, still,

1025
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I just want to get

1026
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: Mets fans ready for this because I think that's it's

1027
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: almost certain that's what going to happen, and that's just

1028
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: that's where we are.

1029
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I listen. I think Akunya definitely probably serves

1030
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: more purpose to this team in the moment than Drew

1031
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Gilbert actually can, because Gilbert needs to probably play more

1032
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: and doesn't seem like in terms of outfield there's as

1033
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: much space because Bader's still gonna play center field, Tyrone

1034
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Taylor still gonna play Jesse Winker is still gonna play

1035
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: Starling Martine. There's a lot of guys fighting for those

1036
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: same spots where relatively speaking, up the middle, I know

1037
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: Iglesias McNeil Lindor is not going anywhere, but like there

1038
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: is less there.

1039
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 2: And acun you can play in field the outfield, which

1040
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: is really important, and then it's just big McNeal is

1041
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: the only guy in the roster. I can do that.

1042
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1043
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: Now on the pitching side of things, looking at the

1044
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Mets forty man roster, some of the options that we

1045
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: have here. I know Tyler McGill is going to make

1046
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: his way up on the weekend right against the White Sox,

1047
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: but you also have guys like Matt Gage, Grant Hartwig,

1048
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: Eric Orza, Alex Young, and Tyler Zuber, who if you

1049
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: guys remember we traded for at the trade deadline. Who

1050
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: are you leading towards the guy that the Mets bring up?

1051
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: Pitching wise, Definitely McGill, just because I think this bullpen probably.

1052
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Needs a long man they need now with Nunia's on

1053
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: the il, he takes that spot, so there's still another

1054
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: spot for the stitcher.

1055
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: Oh you know what they might do because right now

1056
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: Taylor Rodgers was waived, that's true. And the Mets, because

1057
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: they're they're behind a lot of the team that are

1058
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: contending right now. I think there's a good chance they

1059
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: can get him. So I think there's a chance that

1060
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: they jump on him and then maybe McGill get sent

1061
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: back down and he comes back up as as the guy.

1062
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean I think that that'd be smart

1063
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: because we definitely needed a big out left the guy shout.

1064
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: Danny Young, though, did a great job against the time back.

1065
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: The Young isn't bad. I'm telling you, he's not a

1066
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: bad picture.

1067
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: He's a good life though. But he just he's not

1068
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: a big out guy. You can't have your like dude

1069
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: throwing like ninety getting big outs against some of the

1070
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: best left handed pictures like Bryce Harper coming to the plate,

1071
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman, you're gonna feel good with Danny Young in

1072
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: that matchup?

1073
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: You can't.

1074
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care how good his numbers have

1075
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: been this year. I don't trust that. I don't know.

1076
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: I think I don't think the stuff is that bad.

1077
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: Oh maybe I'm in the minority. Hid the slider's good

1078
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: from the side arm or like you gonna get one out.

1079
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: I think that's a guy that can get new one

1080
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: now because but also I think get those good hitters

1081
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: out though.

1082
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Probably, but I think I think that that's going to

1083
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: go hard for Taylor Rodgers because they one need a

1084
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: lefty and two need the reliever, and he's happens to

1085
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: be both. And also all of those relievers you just

1086
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: mentioned are not are but by the mine not very good.

1087
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Matt Gage is the only is the other lefty,

1088
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: and I genuinely don't know anything about him, which means

1089
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: there's probably not anything there.

1090
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: No, there's not that much there. But and then also

1091
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: just briefly want to touch on brand spro still pitching

1092
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: a triple A. I think people would hope he'd get

1093
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: that spot. He just triple A is is fucked. The

1094
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: The average OPS in the league in Triple A seven

1095
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: seventy eight. The average OPS the International League is seven

1096
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: sixty six. It's not a league that's easy to pitch,

1097
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: and they're using a different baseball and they have different

1098
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: rules with PitchCom not PitchCom with with the strike zone.

1099
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: So I think it's a he's had a really rude

1100
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: awakening there. Part of it's those factors. Part of it

1101
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: is just on him. His command's been really bad, and

1102
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: he's a guy that I I've given him a lot

1103
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: of credit for throwing walls of all breaking balls. When

1104
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: they change the ball on, you can change the strike zon.

1105
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard with the multiple breaking balls like that,

1106
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: that's something that becomes difficult change up to feel pitch.

1107
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: He's losing the feel for it. My guy mg D

1108
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: analysis Mikey. He just he was posting that the movement

1109
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: on sprots a sweeper was finally back to normal like

1110
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: with his with the sweep on and the drop, and

1111
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: was still throwing it about eighty five eighty forty five

1112
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: a six miles an hour, so nice. Has taken him

1113
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: a few stars to figure out how to spin the

1114
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: new ball there. But everyone, don't forget about brand Sprode.

1115
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 2: It doesn't look good right now, but still fine.

1116
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: You get a lot of the smart organizations are really

1117
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: just skipping triple A right now with their pictures. The

1118
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: why the Mets keep leaning into it, I don't know,

1119
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I don't know, maybe a mental thing like hey,

1120
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 1: we need your mentally grind through not being the best

1121
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: picture right now, because like every picture that goes to

1122
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: triple A. Not even in the Mets organization just in

1123
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: general has had issues. Their k rates have fallen, their

1124
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: walk rates have gone up, So I don't know if

1125
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: that's just triple A is really not. I mean, I

1126
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: know it is better than double A, but like a

1127
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: lot of those guys are not.

1128
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: Very he might not be that much better. Yeah, yeah,

1129
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: like the like sprote had a decent start at the

1130
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: other day, so it wasn't a very good Sorry, still

1131
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: wind up giving up four runs in four and two

1132
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: thirs innings. But the lineup he faced had like Kode Clemens,

1133
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: Scott Kingry, Derek Hall, David Like, those are the kinds

1134
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: of hitters that you face in triple A. Like guys

1135
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: who aren't goo enough for the major leagues, but guys

1136
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: in the organization doesn't really care about developing anymore.

1137
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we know, you gotta give them the

1138
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: juice ball twenty nineteen. Anybody can be good exactly.

1139
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: Scott can't read eight fifty oh ps and triple A

1140
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: David Doll nine to fifty's. These guys are fucking Hall

1141
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: of famers down there. But I think that's enough for

1142
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: the prospect report, which just again reiterate it to Mets fans.

1143
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: Give Luis on Helocuney a chance, think about him like

1144
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: you thought about Jordani Valdosbin. This is Zesti wit Merrifield.

1145
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: This is a utility player that has a spark in him, at.

1146
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: Least for mental sake, stayed here because he's If you

1147
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: guys are watching this on YouTube, this is all James

1148
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: is thinking about it. Please don't think he's wrong. Please,

1149
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: I loose sleep for this.

1150
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: I just hate the way the guys on Mets Twitter

1151
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: promoting him using his fucking name for clicks. It pisses

1152
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: me off. So it's just like I just again they're

1153
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: doing their job like they're just doing they're just trying

1154
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: to get their compressions. Yeah, get your clicks like whatever.

1155
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: I do it to you sometimes, But just don't promote

1156
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: him as a guy who's like special. He is versatile

1157
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: and he's athletic. That's why he's here. Luis on helds, Yeah,

1158
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: there it is. That's it, Louis Luis an Heluino. You

1159
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: don't care about him. And then the last bit of

1160
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: the prospect report here, I just wanted to mention and

1161
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: move on go for Kumar Rocker.

1162
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's the one you wanted to bring up,

1163
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: not even on the team we matter.

1164
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: Fuck that one up.

1165
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: Don't say we're no longer we there. That's the mess

1166
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: that one up.

1167
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: But then I also will say, just I getta. A

1168
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: lot of people are doing little Mets for this because

1169
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: he looks sensational right now for the Rangers in the

1170
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: minor leagues. He's gone from high A to Triple A

1171
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: in one year. He looks like he's gonna be legitis

1172
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: Ship and now they're gonna have him and Jack the

1173
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 2: same rotation, which is which is really funny. Jacob, Yeah,

1174
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: Jacob de Gram wor there and the miners ended up

1175
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: throw like got like five thousand. Imagine you're grinding at

1176
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: through the minor leagues and like Triple A really gonna

1177
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: get my shot? Oh fuck, there's Jacob de Gram. But

1178
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: it is still like I think it's still Revision's history

1179
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: for METS fans that are given them met Ship about

1180
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: Kumar Rocker because they lied about his medicals and then

1181
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: tried to sign him for then the Scott Bores wouldn't

1182
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: take less than the full slot value, and the Kumar

1183
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: Rocker spent the year outside of baseball, and then he

1184
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: came back and took one of the like he took

1185
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: insanely low slid Vale for the fourth overall picks. So

1186
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: revision is history on what the met happened with the

1187
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: Mets Kumar Roker, I think they didn't that would have

1188
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: fucked up. I think maybe signing other guys in that class.

1189
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna look at the rest of the guys

1190
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: in that class. We don't need to see it how

1191
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: badly they had to sign all those guys right now,

1192
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: but just whoops.

1193
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: Whoops is a good way to put it.

1194
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: All.

1195
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: Right, enough of that negativity from the prospect report, Let's

1196
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: go ahead and preview the series against what is the

1197
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: worst team in baseball. Uh, this is not a jinks guys.

1198
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: They fucking suck and I we're if the Mets lose.

1199
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with what we said. They

1200
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: are generally horrendous. This team is a disgrace to Major

1201
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: League Baseball.

1202
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: If the Mets lose one game, there's a really good

1203
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: chance they will not make the playoffs. Because now that

1204
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: every single team Baseball plays everybody else, it's almost like

1205
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: you have to kind of track, how well you did

1206
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: against all these other teams everybody else is playing against

1207
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: because everyone gets to play them. The White Sox have

1208
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: have won one game in their last forty tries, four

1209
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: games in their last forty tries. The White Sox are

1210
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: thirty three games out of the fourth place. The White

1211
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: Sow The Rangers have won more games. I guaranteed rate

1212
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: field in the second half in the White Sox because

1213
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: they just swept them in a series. This team, by

1214
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: all accounts, is the worst team in the history of baseball,

1215
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: and you have to sweep them. If you want to

1216
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, you have.

1217
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: To sweep them. And these games like not only just sweep,

1218
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: these games shouldn't be close. If these games are within

1219
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: one run outside of the first inning, when you score

1220
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: the first run, there's no excuse. And we're not getting

1221
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: Garrett Crochet either, who's their only good pitcher.

1222
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: I will say that both they easily actually could have

1223
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: won two games against the Rangers. They looked like he

1224
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: was going to the walk off home run, and Travis

1225
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: Jankowski jumped over the wall a full arm length over

1226
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: the wall to bring it back, and then they they

1227
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: had the rally. The ninth inning off of the Kirby

1228
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: Eights Today Thursday, the White Sox and couldn't just couldn't

1229
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: put it together to get that fifth win of the

1230
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: second half. But I'm gonna freak outf we lose a game,

1231
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: I will freak out.

1232
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: So pitching matchups again, who are we getting? Are we

1233
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: getting Cruichet? He moved to start the other day?

1234
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: Right, Crochet? Well this this is just also classic incompetence,

1235
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: I guess from the entire organization where Garrett Crochet and

1236
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: Andrew Heaney has started the game on Tuesday night, and

1237
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: I was extra pissed off about this because I picked

1238
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: up Andrew Heini and way too many fans to get

1239
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: a two star week against against the White Sox in

1240
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: the A's. But Garrett Crochet came on the mound through

1241
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: four pitches, rain game over suspended. So Gret Crochet, he pitched,

1242
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: so he got warm, So he's not gonna pitch the

1243
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: next day. But I think this means that he is

1244
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: still going to pitch against us on Sunday. Okay, So

1245
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: right now the pitching matchups as scheduled are Friday eight ten,

1246
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: Tyler McGill versus Jonathan Cannon. Who Jonathan Cannon, he's been

1247
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: the team all year. He's actually not even he's not

1248
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: even close to being their worst guy.

1249
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not really an accomplishment, not being in

1250
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: the White Sox.

1251
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: Sure, then Saturday seven to ten. So strange that we're

1252
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: going from eight ten to seven ten. I don't I

1253
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: can't take that one out. But as off jose Kntana

1254
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: versus Davis Martin who and then yeah, Davis Martin, that's

1255
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: a good one. And then so this actually is a

1256
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: great game here, Sean and I Garrick Crochet actual asof

1257
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: actually as off legitimate asof there. But Crochet has not

1258
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: been the same guy since they curtailed his workload, which

1259
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: kind of sucks for him, but also makes sense because

1260
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: his Major League hind A innings before this year I

1261
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: think was twenty one and this year he's at one

1262
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight. So it makes sense to the

1263
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: team with the worst record history Baseball. I'll be like chill.

1264
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: So in his last ten appearances, Garret Crochet has thrown

1265
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: four innings, two innings, one inning that was the All

1266
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: Star Game, four innings, three innings, four innings, two and

1267
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: a third, four to four and then zero four pitches.

1268
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: He hasn't got more than a ninety five pitches since June.

1269
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: Is a guy that they are very purposefully trying to

1270
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: make chill out, because there's no reason for him to

1271
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: be pushing the limits right now, as Eric spording the

1272
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: worst record in baseball.

1273
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: I want to play a game with you on the

1274
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball here and again. Maybe this

1275
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: is the mega jinks. I don't care. You can't lose

1276
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: to this team. They fucking suck. I'm gonna see if

1277
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Speaker 1: you know who these players are and what position they're

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00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: listed on on Baseball Reference.

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Speaker 2: You're righty for this, Okay, let's do it.

1280
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: Brooks Baldwin, you ever heard of that guy who is

1281
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: that short time second base? Is way? He's listened that

1282
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: all I.

1283
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: Think in is playing shortstop for whatever.

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00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: Chucky Robinson catcher, Yeah, catcher, Chuckie Robbins a catcher. All right,

1285
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Speaker 1: I'm give I'm gonna give you one more. You know

1286
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: where you know where Corey Jokes plays. I know he

1287
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: was on the Astros last year. You know where he plays?

1288
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: This gout? We looked there at the corneridfield outfield. There

1289
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: you go, those.

1290
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: Are guys who are getting a lot of playing time

1291
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: right now, Corey Lee behind the plate, Andrew Vaughan at first.

1292
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: Nicky Lopez is hitting lead off, which is just despicable.

1293
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean that guy is.

1294
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 2: He's gonna have such a good, big series against the Mets.

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00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Oh, major big series. Nicky Lopez follower of mine on Twitter.

1296
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Nice dude, Uh bad hitter. That's that's all I gotta

1297
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: say about him. Really bad hitter. My boy, Lennon Sosa

1298
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: shout out Lennon Sosa. He is he is playing third base,

1299
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: which that's pretty bad. Andrew Ben and Tendy Luis, Robert

1300
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: Gavin Sheets, Dominic Fletcher, Miguel Vargas. They cut Nick Senzel.

1301
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: That's how bad Nick Senzel has been. Will we see

1302
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: an appearance maybe for more boy, Danny.

1303
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: Mendick, Yeah, probably, well he could.

1304
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: He might find his way back up here. Who knows.

1305
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Danny Mendick. Shout out Danny Mendick. But the thing again,

1306
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: I don't really want to talk about this White Sox

1307
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: team that much more because they know they just suck,

1308
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: and it's more about the history they're possibly making right now,

1309
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: is what I'm.

1310
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: Looking at their pictures. They have dudes again, I've never

1311
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: heard of Sammy Peralta.

1312
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: Oh the bullpen Fraser Alard.

1313
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: Fraser Ellard was the one. I was like, who the

1314
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: fuck is freezing? You don't know that Fraser Alard? I? Yeah,

1315
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: of course I don't know about Fraser Alard. He has

1316
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: a five RA in ten appearances. Who the fuck is

1317
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: this guy?

1318
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: Again? I think the only thing to talk about with

1319
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: the Mets and White Sox in the series is something

1320
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: that Tim Britton, Howie Rose, I've been talking about a

1321
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: lot online and Tim Briton's gonna write an article interviewing

1322
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: how we about this where Britain wrote pup at pol

1323
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: on Twitter the other day. So looking ahead this weekend,

1324
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm curious you as Mets fans want the White Sox

1325
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: to break the sixty two teams record for most losses

1326
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 2: in the season. And overwhelmingly seventy six percent of Mets

1327
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: fans vote yes, and the Pole guys high eighty seven

1328
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,479
Speaker 2: to thirteen the other day and I also was resounding yes.

1329
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: And then I talked to my dad about and I've

1330
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: read a lot of what how we said about it?

1331
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: And again Tim Briton says him and how we were

1332
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: gonna do like a dual piece. He I thought they

1333
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: could talk about it. And my dad wasn't even there

1334
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 2: for it either. How we said he was there for it.

1335
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: My dad was born years later. But my dad described

1336
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 2: it as a way of like it's that Mets team

1337
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: was fully a joke and everyone in the world knew it,

1338
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: Like Casey Stangle was a fucking manager. Like they had

1339
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: a combination of old players who should not be playing

1340
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: professional baseball and young players who should not have been

1341
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: playing professional baseball. Yeah, they ed Crimple was seventeen years

1342
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: old first base Like it was just it was like

1343
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: it was like such a folly because it was the

1344
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: first year as an as an expansion team. But my

1345
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: dad said, pride of that comes from the fact that

1346
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: they turned to the round so relatively quickly and got

1347
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: to the mountaintop only seven years later with certain players

1348
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: now no players from that team. I think stuck it out,

1349
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: ed ed stuck it out. Yeah, but he said that

1350
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: it was like it was like a point of pride

1351
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: for the Mets that they were this massive loser they

1352
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: walked into baseball their first year, were the biggest losers

1353
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: the game's ever seen. And then in seven years we were

1354
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: able to be like now we're the best team in

1355
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: the league.

1356
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: So I good guess what that changes. That changes nothing

1357
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: if the White Sox lose more games than us.

1358
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: I know how he I'm excited to see what how

1359
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: he says about it, because he was saying like you

1360
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: had to be their thing. But I'm interested to see

1361
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: what the article looks like. I see the logic that

1362
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: my dad was saying with that. I would love talking

1363
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: Aboutchael a little about it because he was watching it live.

1364
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 2: But I want that record to be gone. I want

1365
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: the White Sox to lose a hundred third game and

1366
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: make let this chaos be over now a hundred three hundred, yeah,

1367
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: twenty third? How many games they lose twenty.

1368
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: It's it's something I care so little about because I

1369
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: know the White Sox are gonna break it. That it's

1370
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: it's never even been a number I particularly care about.

1371
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: I love to not remember that the team that I

1372
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: root for is the worst franchise ever in a single season.

1373
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: I'd love to drop that, Moniker. I think all Mets

1374
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: fans should want for respectfully, mister Chiano, bad take, in

1375
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's just put your back get behind. I'll

1376
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: ask my dad. I haven't spoke to him about it.

1377
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Next time I talked to him, I'll ask him. I

1378
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: generation he's gonna be on my side. Now, I think

1379
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on my side. He's gonna be like,

1380
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: get rid of this. That's terrible. Your your dad, I

1381
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: see what your dad saying about. Like the quick turnaround,

1382
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: that round doesn't change. If the White Sox break the record,

1383
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: everyone can still talk about the Mets were the second

1384
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: worst team in baseball history and then won a World

1385
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: Series seven years later, Like that is a crazy good turnaround.

1386
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it changes the narrative or the story ever,

1387
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: because they still were the worst of teams to ever

1388
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: do it. The only time it changes is if the

1389
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: White Sox then turn around and do it quicker. That's

1390
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: the only thing. You should be root for them to

1391
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: break it and then stink even more because it makes

1392
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: even more impressive that the Mets were just as bad

1393
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: and did it.

1394
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 2: It's it's so crazy to how bad this White Sox

1395
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: team has gone in a few years. It's unbelievable.

1396
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: Really, It's just it's a disgrace to baseball. This team.

1397
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: This is like I disgrace. Yeah, because like the A's

1398
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: are disgracing a different way where they're actively not spending money.

1399
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: The White Sox weirdly spend some money. They just do

1400
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: it in every wrong way. Some some money. Andrew ben Attend,

1401
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: the biggest rage in contracting.

1402
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: Franchise history, hit the home run today. On Thursday. The

1403
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: A's also again, I have turned the year in one year.

1404
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 2: They're like, not that bad anymore?

1405
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: Correct?

1406
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there has have played almost two full months of

1407
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: baseball and not over five hundred. It's not that bad. Yeah,

1408
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: it's fine. But yeah, we'll see if that happens there.

1409
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: I better pay six two mets right now. You want

1410
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: to close the Frankie Peppers. We got Frankie Pepper's mess.

1411
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: We got Frankie Peppers today.

1412
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a Frankie Peppers. I'm in Arizona. It'll

1413
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: cheer me up even more. I'm leaving this the sunny paradise.

1414
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: Here we go, Frankie. Let's let left GM feeling good

1415
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: after today's win.

1416
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 3: Gentlemen, how you doing it is? Frankie Peppers? What more

1417
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 3: can you say? After such a deflating loss. On Wednesday?

1418
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: The boys coming back and doing what they need to

1419
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: do on Thursday. Really good stuff, pretty pretty encouraging when

1420
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 3: you could get punched in the mouth and come right

1421
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 3: back on up, because you know, after Wednesday night it's like,

1422
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: take me off the grill, I'm cooked, and that one

1423
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 3: from my son. But after a win like today, you

1424
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: feel I'm pretty good. I saw my doctor, by the way,

1425
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 3: he told me to eat less salt, but otherwise everything

1426
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: is fine. So I heard your concerned for me last time,

1427
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: so I appreciate it. So next dinner we have together

1428
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 3: when the pot drops off, to make something a little

1429
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 3: less salty, James Mark, you tell me what you want,

1430
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: I'll make it and I'll post it on Twitters, just

1431
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 3: so you know I can show you that we hate

1432
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 3: dining together. Appreciate your voice as always.

1433
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: Let's go, Mets, Let's.

1434
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: Go best Frankie Peppers one hundred more years. I want

1435
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: to Frankie, if you're listening, I want to see a bolonnis.

1436
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: Ooh, I was gonna go sausage and peppers. Frankie peppers.

1437
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: Yes, that's true, but I find you could pick between

1438
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: those two things. Nice, nice traditional Italian.

1439
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: Meal, sausage and peppers, bolognis. I'm glad to hear that

1440
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: you're taking care of your health. Frankie, we can't let you.

1441
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: We can't. We got We need you on this earth

1442
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: as long as physically pass. More year National Treasure, one

1443
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: hundred more years of Frankie Peppers, one hundred more years

1444
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: of the METS up podcast, and beat the fucking piss

1445
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: out of the White Sox. Thank you guys so much

1446
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: for listening and watching this episode. Make sure you follow

1447
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: us on all our social media at mets up on Twitter, Instagram,

1448
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: at TikTok. Subscribe to the mets up podcast YouTube channel

1449
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: so you can see our pretty faces. If you're listening

1450
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: to us, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, drops a rating, drops

1451
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: a review, download and subscribe. Follow James on Twitter.

1452
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: App James Underscoreusiano.

1453
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm draftneck Mark with a C. Thank you guys for listening,

1454
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: Thank you for watching. Will catch you after we annihilate

1455
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: the Chicago White Sox. Peace out.

1456
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: Let's call mets baby Happy Lay but everybody