WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Dr. Umar Talks Bunny Hopping, Supreme Court Immunity, The Migrant Crisis, Black Male Unity + More 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:05.040 Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:08.799 Everybody is the j Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.000 We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:11.520 in the building. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:12.639 He's back. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:14.600 Ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Umar Johnson. 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.200 Welcome, brother Peace and Pan Africanism. Good to see you 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:17.880 brothers again. 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.320 How are you feeling it? I'm all right, I'm all right. 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:22.600 You see we got you on the wall over there. Brother, 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:23.680 You ain't even see it. 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:24.880 You even see itself right there? 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:31.160 Yes, man, good looking out. You're looking out all right. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.479 How does doctor Umar feel about being the black boogeyman 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:35.720 for interracial relationship? 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.760 It's good and it's bad. The good side is I 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.360 hear from a lot of brothers who have gave up 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.879 the bunny hopping. They send me messages in box. They 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.320 stopped me at the airport, so I do see the 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.720 positive effect. You know, brother, I'm with a queen now, 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.840 I see the difference. If I never listened to you, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.680 I would have never really evaluated my behavior. That's the 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:57.200 good side. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:57.480 Got. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:59.760 The not so good side is also get the hate 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.040 mail from brothers who I committed to the bunny hopping. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.479 Gotcha right, and they can be very aggressive and their 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.039 repudiation of my position. I was at the airport coming 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.960 from Atlanta last week, and I don't know what they 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.480 be expected, but when I see a brother with his 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.200 snow bunny at the airport, it's almost as if they 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.960 expect me to approach them or something like we're going 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:22.600 through security, the brother with the white girl, and they 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.440 looking at me like like they wait for me to 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.400 swing on them or something. I'm like, bro, it ain't 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.720 that the man, Your life is your life. I still 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.920 respect you as a human being. I just don't think 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:32.720 your selection is in the best interest to where black 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.480 people need to be headed, that's all. But when I 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.960 see them interracial couples, man, they look like they're getting 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.280 ready for war or something. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.920 Yeah, I mean because the things you say. They don't 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.760 know what you're gonna say, what gonna come out your mouth, 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.440 if you gonna grunt, if you're gonna say something. So 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.440 they gotta they gotta repair themselves, right. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.640 But see the essence of the messages still love though, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.400 So even if I disagree with what you're doing, we 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.600 still family at some level, and she's still a human 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:01.640 being regardless. So you know, sometimes they'll come up to 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:03.680 me as a couple and I'll speak to them as 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.520 a couple and they may say, what can you explain 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.080 why you don't really agree what we're doing, And I'll 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.440 do it in a very respectful tone. And I've never 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.919 had an issue when we had those conversations. So from 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.120 where my perspective is, I'm like, yeah, I'm strong in 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.040 my position, but I'm still leading with love. So nobody 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.440 should ever feel some type of way about seeing me 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.200 in public, although they do. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.040 I told you I was all the way in zanza Bal. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:24.840 I sent you the video doctor ball. I was in 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.760 Zanzibal and a brother whom zanzer Bal was talking to 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.359 me and he was saying how much he like a 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.120 lot of the things doctor Wumar said. But he's like, 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:35.880 I just don't understand his position on the snow bunnies. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.079 It's a contradiction about how you cut the cake. Because 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.079 those children who are going to be black, how can 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.120 you tell them be black and proud? If you didn't 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.840 make them with a black woman, you chose to incubate 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.480 your seed in a non African woman. How can you 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.320 then turn around and raise those children to be black 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.760 and proud, when if you were black and proud, you 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.880 would have chose a black woman to canbate your seed. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.560 Then it doesn't make sense for the descendant of the 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.640 slave to be planning his seed in the descendant of 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.000 the slave master. Now it's a complete contradiction. 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.760 What do your views? Has your views changed on mixed 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.079 people right? Because you know people will say, even if 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.919 you have a drop of black blood in you, you're black. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.240 I do the one parent rule, Okay, So for me, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.000 if one of your parents are black, you're black. Take Drake, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.880 if he identifies as black, full time, he black. And 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.880 that's never been an issue for us within the Pan 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.200 African movement, going back to the beginning of the time. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.560 We've never rejected the offspring of the union because nobody's 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.960 responsible for how they got here. And so that's why 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.040 Bob Marley, there's no contradiction for us. A lot of 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.720 our ancestors were of mixed race. Frederick Douglas, who I'm 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.960 related to, it's no contradiction because you don't choose how 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:48.840 you come into this world, but you still have the 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.720 DNA of Africa within you. But you got to identify 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.520 full time. That's where it becomes an issue without Dominican 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.440 Republican brothers and sisters, Puerto Rican Africans of Cuban Africans, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.240 because sometimes they will either comempletely reject the African ancestry 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.240 right or they may say, I do have African ancestry, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.280 but I don't not identify as Latino African. I'm Spanish. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.240 You see what I'm saying. Or you look at what 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.440 goes on between the Dominican Republic and Haiti that whole 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.280 intense A light skin, dark skin, I'm African, you ain't 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.640 African type of situation. We repudiate all that you either 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.120 black all the time or you black none of the time. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.400 You know, people think because you have such a love 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.080 for black people, that's for whatever reason, that translates to 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.000 hate for white folks. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.080 Absolutely not, because if that were true, why do I 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.479 get so many requests for help from white parents? Why 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.520 do I get so many requests for help from Asian parents? 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.359 A raparents they don't have a problem. Text in my 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.000 phone saying hey, can I pay this consultation? I need 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.840 you to look at my child psychological evaluation. I never 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.359 get apprehension from white parents when they need my help 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.640 on special education or mental health cases. You see what 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.160 I'm saying. So if it were that bad, I would 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.920 assume they would not be reaching out to me. They 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.000 have no issue reaching out to me, and they don't 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.719 go through a filter. They come direct, even the snow bunnies. Listen, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.360 I know how you feel about that. I need help 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.159 with my son. He's a white boy, blond hair, blue eyes. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.880 Will you help us pay the fee? 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:10.480 I got you, And if you hated them, you wouldn't 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:11.120 get off of the help. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:12.600 Why would I help him at all? You see what 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.680 I'm saying. Some of them buy my book too. They say, hey, 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.240 I know your book is towards black families, but the 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.160 information in there we can use it too. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.720 So do white parents ever call you and say, hey, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.360 my white son or my white daughter is into this 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.080 black boy or black girl and we need to we 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:29.800 want to RaSE him from there. Do they ever call 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:30.200 you for that? 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.839 No? I get the opposite. I'll get the black mother 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.680 who say, doctor, Uma, my son is bunny hopping and 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.400 it looks like he has a point of no return. 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.840 Can you help me out? That's what I get. Do 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:44.000 you have a camp, because I am I need a 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.840 camp that's a good idea. What they do bunny hopping recovery. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.440 Bunny hopper is anonymous a camp. I need a camp. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.839 That's not a bad idea, that is a very good idea. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.480 You just gave you an idea. So what they do? 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.279 Call you? How do you bring my God? They be 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.120 upset like doctor uh, he's taking a white girl to 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.040 the prime And I thought that was it. No no, no, 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.640 she's living with him in his dorm. No no, no, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.880 they're about to move in together. No no, no, she's pregnant. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.000 Now what can I do? And the first thing I 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.279 say to the black mother is are you sure you 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:17.720 did not model love or addiction to whiteness before your son? 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.280 Because many of these mothers who have an issue with 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.359 this son with the white girl god, blond hair, blind weave. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.120 You see what I'm saying of the green contacts, Like 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.800 I'm looking at how you present yourself. You look like 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.520 you're trying to be a white girl. So if the 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:35.040 mother is imitating whiteness, why wouldn't the son be attracted 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.680 to it? Because your first love affair is with your mother, 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.719 not sexually, psychosocially. So therefore, if I see my mother 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:46.320 imitating white women? Are you not indirectly through your behavior 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.560 suggesting that I date white females. So I think a 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.599 lot of black mothers have to really check themselves with 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.960 regard to how they're modeling the fact that they believe 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.320 within themselves as a woman that white women are more attractive. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.039 And I want to ask you some Columbus Shaw says, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.160 since we're talking about that, you said he got some 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.480 heat for saying that black men are dating outside their 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.720 race because most Black women are raised by single mothers 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.400 and absentee fathers and taught a don't need a man mentality. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:13.200 What are your thoughts on? 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.160 Well, here's what I would say to my brother, Columbus 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:19.160 Short and I'm a fan of his. Are we not 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.880 all victims of the systemic oppression and injustice that racism 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.040 has introduced into our community? So, just as you have 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.120 black women who didn't grow up with their father, you 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.720 have black men who didn't grow up with their fathers 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.920 or their mothers. In other words, why is it acceptable 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.880 for the black man raised by a black woman without 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.480 his dad to reject a black woman raised by her 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.640 mother without her dad. I think sometimes black men can 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.640 be guilty of a double standard where we want a 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.760 perfect offering when we ourselves are not a perfect offering. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.000 And to that point, I think black men need to 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.200 recognize the fact that one of the reasons we have 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.200 so much conflict with black women is because we don't 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.720 operate on a masculine platform with our women all the time. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.800 We tend to operate on a female platform, for example, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.760 when the woman gets angry, rather than you trying to 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:15.040 understand your queen nine emotionally. So you can't have both 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.480 people in a relationship with a low emotional IQ because 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.480 of both people in the home. If you and your 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.560 wife both have a low emotional IQ, if you and 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.119 your wife both have a low emotional IQ, y'all gonna 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.080 argue over everything because nobody says, I am not gonna 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.720 emote over this. I'm not gonna deal with this with feelings. 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.520 I'm gonna use reason and intelligence. That's what the man 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.480 is supposed to do. But guess what we do. Raised 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.400 by single mothers, many of us, we reflect right back 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.040 to them that emotional trauma that they're throwing on us. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.320 So in essays, you have two females arguing, although one 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.959 is in a man's body. Black men have to start 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.520 being masculine and less feminine. All this cattiness, this back 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.760 and forth between black men and black women on the 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.760 internet that is feminine and feminine. Masculinity operate like that. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.000 Masculinity wants to understand where the woman is coming from. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:09.960 Masculinity wants to then intervene, study himself, evaluate his behavior, 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.079 and try to level up to where she needs him 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.480 to be. But arguing back and forth with women as 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.520 a man, that's anti masculine behavior. What we really needed 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.880 some testosterone shots. We need more testosterone because black men 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:26.160 are mimicking female behavior emotionally and they're not even recognizing it. 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.000 I know a lot of women who have high emotional 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.480 like yous, who don't get caught up in the petty back. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.000 And for yes certain yes, sir, But normally more often 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.000 than not, it's supposed to be the male. Sometimes the 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.360 women does have that, which is good, but that also 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.960 speaks to the fact that the women are becoming more 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.320 masculinized and the men are becoming more feminized, not in 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.480 terms of sexuality, but in terms of personality. The way 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.000 that we are engaging each other in the back and 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.120 forth male female thing. If we want to get real 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.480 basic about it. You're dealing with two traumatized people who 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:01.040 have not healed themselves out. They're trying to make a 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.320 healthy relationship. Two unhappy people cannot make a healthy relationship. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.640 It is impossible. You cannot get water from oil. You 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.760 can't get oil from water. If she's traumatized because her 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:16.080 father abandoned her and he's traumatized because his mother chose 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.800 her second husband over him, you got to deal with 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.200 those unmet childhood issues. Most of us are still dealing 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.320 with unmet childhood issues, and we're giving the responsibility to 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.080 our partner to heal us from demons that can only 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.440 be here with our parents. My wife can't undo what 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.000 my mama did. I got to work with my mama. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.000 Your husband can undo what your daddy did. You got 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.040 to work with your husband. But because we don't want 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.600 to go back into the pain, because we've often eliminated 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.640 those people from my lives, we just say, you know what, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.360 I'm gonna have to work on this with my husband. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.120 I'm gonna have to work on this with my wife. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.200 They can be a support for you, but they can't 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.880 beat a solution. We have too many spiritual vampires floating 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:58.240 around the Black community. These are emotionally toxic people who 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.360 don't present themselves as they are to the opposite sex. 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.880 They present their social self, their psychological mass, and you 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.320 don't realize who they really are Envy and Charlotte Maye 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.719 until somebody gets pregnant. Y'all moving together, get married, or 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.800 get engaged. The whole time y'all were dating, it was perfect. 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:15.600 You said, I've been dating my queen for ten years. 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.079 We never had an issue, get married, divorced than six months. 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.840 You know why, because once y'all moved in that house together, 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.520 your ego no longer wants to lie to her. Your 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.440 ego no longer wants to lie to her Charlotte may 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.360 and her ego doesn't want to lie to you. So 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.959 now you start seeing things that you never saw ten 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.080 twenty years when y'all were dating, because in cross proximity, 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:36.760 the ego drops this mass. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.200 Damn doctor Whoma ain't playing the day. Let's get to it. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.319 There's a lot of things to talk about. Do you 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:44.880 think President Biden should step down? 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.360 Do I think President Biden should step down? I got 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.720 a couple answers to that. On the one end, Presidents 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:56.000 don't make the final decisions anyway, So because they are puppets, 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.440 it really wouldn't matter if he stepped down or not. However, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.760 from an optics perspective, he's showing against Donald Trump, and 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.240 that debate didn't look good at all, even though they 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.520 only three years apart. Right on the flip side, I'm 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.319 not too sure the Democratic Party is ready to anoint 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.880 Kamala Harris as quote unquote commander in chief because, as 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.040 you know, in the post Barack Obama era, the last 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.800 thing poor white America wants to see is another black 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.199 person that's commander in chief. So I don't think they 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.040 necessarily want to go that route. They don't have to. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.040 There's others as well. But at the end of the day, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.720 both men are extremely up there in age because I 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.280 don't want to be a senior shamer if you would, right, 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.880 because seniors are just as capable intellectually, many of them 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.600 as those of us in our age bracket. At the 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.320 same time, there's still the two oldest men to ever 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.360 run and rerun for president of the United States. But 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.559 you know what, doesn't that also speak to the weaknesses 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.200 in both parties. If Joe Biden is the best the 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.040 Democratic National Committee has. If Donald Trump is the best 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.800 the Republican National Committee has. What is that saying about 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.000 the talent y'all incubating? 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.600 So what do you think about, you know, blacks loving 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.560 Donald Trump so much, shaking his hand, kissing his kissing 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.480 his hand, rubbing his bag, saying we support it. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.720 What do you think about slave master syndrome, white Jesus syndrome? 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.319 We don't care if the white Jesus wears red or blue. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.600 We don't care what side of the owl that they're on. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:24.120 You know, Black America suffers from battered spouse syndrome envy. 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.040 And what batter spouse syndrome speaks to is the fact 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.320 that no matter how bad you beat me up, if 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.280 I believe I need you in order to survive, I'm 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.040 never going anywhere. And part of our problem, part of 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.760 the equation to our problem as American Africans, while we 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.240 don't do anything on our own, is we are often 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.800 waiting for the great White Savior to come. This is 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.360 a message that has been rehearsed for us in church. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.520 We get it in the media, we get it in 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.400 the black community. So black people will never ever abandon 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.200 their hope of a white savior coming to save them. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.840 Donald Trump has no record whatsoever of saving black folks. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.880 When people ask me who you going to vote for 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.880 at this point, neither one of them are going to 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.439 get my vote. I considered Courtnel West because I love 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.480 doctor West, intelligent, strong, good nature. But he's a bunny hopper, 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.360 so he can't get my vote. Now, when I come 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.520 back to Donald Trump and Joe Biden, I look at 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:17.040 the fact that Donald Trump signed thirteen federal deaf executions 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.320 while he was president. More than half of them was 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.480 signed after Joe Biden won the election. Think about that. Now, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.240 Biden gets elected in November, sworn in January. Between that time, 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.800 Donald Trump executes half of those thirteen people. Five of 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.960 them were black men, and two of those black men 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.520 were presumed innocent and their attorneys had introduced a stay 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.200 of execution to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court turned 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.880 them down, and Donald Trump executed those brothers. So when 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.160 I hear black men say I'm voting for Donald Trump 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.920 because he's going to bring more money in economic vitality 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.040 into the black community, I say, what about the fact 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.520 that he's out here killing black folks? You understand without 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.960 no remorse at all, signing those type of federal death warrants. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.120 Two brothers was murdered within twenty four hours of each other. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.080 One of them was forty years old, and he was 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.560 the first person to be murdered in seventy years for 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.160 a crime he committed as a teenager. And in one 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.400 of those cases, about six of the jurors said they 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.960 would have changed their decision on the death sentence had 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.920 they knew the information that the prosecution had withheld from them. 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.520 That's why the attorney wanted to stay of execution to 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.520 give the defense time to reformulate an argument in Supreme 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.840 Court Snow Bunny Clarence Thomas and that crew said no, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.240 and Donald Trump signed his life away. So you got 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:29.560 to look at that. You also got to look at 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.440 the fact that Donald Trump wants to give police one 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.120 hundred percent amenity. Wait a minute, look how they're killing 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:38.480 us now. So now you're telling me that anything the 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.240 police do in their line of duty, they cannot be 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.840 held accountable for making bad mistakes and bad decisions. And 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.320 you would have put that back in office. That's thirsty. 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.800 Black men worry more about money than the lives of 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:49.320 their people. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.600 The Supreme Court is corrupt, yes, legitimate, absolutely. How come 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.000 enough people not talking about that. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.120 Because I don't think they understand the tripart take nature 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.520 of American so called democracy. The Supreme Court, the President 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:05.200 in the Congress, they actually have equal weight. Right, well, 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.320 they did. But now, what the Supreme Court just did 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.479 was they gave the president a few days ago absolute 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:16.000 immunity from criminal prosecution for decisions made in office and 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.560 carrying out his constitutionally protected duties. That's very dangerous because 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.360 what that says is the president can never go to 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.080 jail even if he commits genocide if it was done 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.760 in an act of office. So let's say, hypothetically, Donald Trump, 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.280 but Joe Biden sends the National Guard into New York 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.480 to quell a Black protests, and the National Guard, god forbid, 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.280 ends up executing a five thousand of our brothers and 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.960 sisters who were protesting peacefully, even though it was ordered 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.840 by the President of the United States. He cannot be 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.160 held accountable for that. Why because he did it in 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.200 discharging his duties as commander in chief. So we don't 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.880 long longer have a president. We have an emperor, we 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.320 have a czar, we have a King, because what the 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.760 Supreme Court just did is said the president is beyond 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:59.200 reproach and the president is beyond the reach of the law. Dangerous. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.480 I feel like enough people aren't having that conversation. They're 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.879 not having that conversation to me, like, I understand, you know, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.880 talking about Biden and his bad debate performance. I get it. Yeah, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.119 I even understand talking about Project two thousand twenty five, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.760 even though it's a hypothetical. But this is happening now, yes, 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:13.720 and nobody. 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.000 Has And for black folks, it don't matter if it's 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.960 Trump or Biden. The bottom line is the president of 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.560 the United States, none of whom have ever been friends 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.879 of the black community, will have the ability to do 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.040 what they want as long as it takes place within 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.919 the execution of duty. They cannot be held criminally liable. 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.920 Now here's my thing. I wonder what are the repercussions 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.040 of that on the World Court when you're dealing with 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.320 genocide in the Geneva Convention. So are you saying that 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:41.320 the president of the United States cannot be held criminally 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:45.040 responsible for crimes of genocide against humanity? That goes against 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.399 the whole Geneva Convention. So I'm wondering what the UN 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.359 and what the World Court has to say about the 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:50.439 Supreme Court's decision. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.959 What are your thoughts on Donald Trump currently and in 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.040 particular the agenda that is Project twenty twenty five. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.280 The Project twenty twenty five reminds me a lot remember 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.440 the New Gingrich Contract on America back at the turn 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.160 of the century. It kind of reminds me of that. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.400 It is very dangerous. But when I look at Project 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.280 twenty twenty five, a lot of it is already being 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.879 carried out. You fault. So they want to eliminate the 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.000 Department of Education. I think we talked about this probably 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.320 my first visit to the Breakfast Club, where I spoke 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.400 of how the US Constitution does not give your child 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.879 a right to an education. The word education is not 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.800 in the constitution. But many people feel like educational taxes 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.639 or their taxes that go to education is to burden 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.159 some incumbersome and they're saying, why do I have to 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:37.520 pay school tax when a constitution doesn't even give nobody 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.440 a right to get an education in the first place, 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.239 So why am I paying for this? So a lot 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.320 of people want to phase that out. Remember when you 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.680