Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2: Everybody is the j Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
Speaker 2: in the building.
Speaker 1: He's back.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Umar Johnson.
Speaker 1: Welcome, brother Peace and Pan Africanism. Good to see you
Speaker 1: brothers again.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling it? I'm all right, I'm all right.
Speaker 3: You see we got you on the wall over there. Brother,
Speaker 3: You ain't even see it.
Speaker 2: You even see itself right there?
Speaker 1: Yes, man, good looking out. You're looking out all right.
Speaker 3: How does doctor Umar feel about being the black boogeyman
Speaker 3: for interracial relationship?
Speaker 1: It's good and it's bad. The good side is I
Speaker 1: hear from a lot of brothers who have gave up
Speaker 1: the bunny hopping. They send me messages in box. They
Speaker 1: stopped me at the airport, so I do see the
Speaker 1: positive effect. You know, brother, I'm with a queen now,
Speaker 1: I see the difference. If I never listened to you,
Speaker 1: I would have never really evaluated my behavior. That's the
Speaker 1: good side.
Speaker 3: Got.
Speaker 1: The not so good side is also get the hate
Speaker 1: mail from brothers who I committed to the bunny hopping.
Speaker 1: Gotcha right, and they can be very aggressive and their
Speaker 1: repudiation of my position. I was at the airport coming
Speaker 1: from Atlanta last week, and I don't know what they
Speaker 1: be expected, but when I see a brother with his
Speaker 1: snow bunny at the airport, it's almost as if they
Speaker 1: expect me to approach them or something like we're going
Speaker 1: through security, the brother with the white girl, and they
Speaker 1: looking at me like like they wait for me to
Speaker 1: swing on them or something. I'm like, bro, it ain't
Speaker 1: that the man, Your life is your life. I still
Speaker 1: respect you as a human being. I just don't think
Speaker 1: your selection is in the best interest to where black
Speaker 1: people need to be headed, that's all. But when I
Speaker 1: see them interracial couples, man, they look like they're getting
Speaker 1: ready for war or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because the things you say. They don't
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna say, what gonna come out your mouth,
Speaker 2: if you gonna grunt, if you're gonna say something. So
Speaker 2: they gotta they gotta repair themselves, right.
Speaker 1: But see the essence of the messages still love though,
Speaker 1: So even if I disagree with what you're doing, we
Speaker 1: still family at some level, and she's still a human
Speaker 1: being regardless. So you know, sometimes they'll come up to
Speaker 1: me as a couple and I'll speak to them as
Speaker 1: a couple and they may say, what can you explain
Speaker 1: why you don't really agree what we're doing, And I'll
Speaker 1: do it in a very respectful tone. And I've never
Speaker 1: had an issue when we had those conversations. So from
Speaker 1: where my perspective is, I'm like, yeah, I'm strong in
Speaker 1: my position, but I'm still leading with love. So nobody
Speaker 1: should ever feel some type of way about seeing me
Speaker 1: in public, although they do.
Speaker 3: I told you I was all the way in zanza Bal.
Speaker 3: I sent you the video doctor ball. I was in
Speaker 3: Zanzibal and a brother whom zanzer Bal was talking to
Speaker 3: me and he was saying how much he like a
Speaker 3: lot of the things doctor Wumar said. But he's like,
Speaker 3: I just don't understand his position on the snow bunnies.
Speaker 1: It's a contradiction about how you cut the cake. Because
Speaker 1: those children who are going to be black, how can
Speaker 1: you tell them be black and proud? If you didn't
Speaker 1: make them with a black woman, you chose to incubate
Speaker 1: your seed in a non African woman. How can you
Speaker 1: then turn around and raise those children to be black
Speaker 1: and proud, when if you were black and proud, you
Speaker 1: would have chose a black woman to canbate your seed.
Speaker 1: Then it doesn't make sense for the descendant of the
Speaker 1: slave to be planning his seed in the descendant of
Speaker 1: the slave master. Now it's a complete contradiction.
Speaker 2: What do your views? Has your views changed on mixed
Speaker 2: people right? Because you know people will say, even if
Speaker 2: you have a drop of black blood in you, you're black.
Speaker 1: I do the one parent rule, Okay, So for me,
Speaker 1: if one of your parents are black, you're black. Take Drake,
Speaker 1: if he identifies as black, full time, he black. And
Speaker 1: that's never been an issue for us within the Pan
Speaker 1: African movement, going back to the beginning of the time.
Speaker 1: We've never rejected the offspring of the union because nobody's
Speaker 1: responsible for how they got here. And so that's why
Speaker 1: Bob Marley, there's no contradiction for us. A lot of
Speaker 1: our ancestors were of mixed race. Frederick Douglas, who I'm
Speaker 1: related to, it's no contradiction because you don't choose how
Speaker 1: you come into this world, but you still have the
Speaker 1: DNA of Africa within you. But you got to identify
Speaker 1: full time. That's where it becomes an issue without Dominican
Speaker 1: Republican brothers and sisters, Puerto Rican Africans of Cuban Africans,
Speaker 1: because sometimes they will either comempletely reject the African ancestry
Speaker 1: right or they may say, I do have African ancestry,
Speaker 1: but I don't not identify as Latino African. I'm Spanish.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Or you look at what
Speaker 1: goes on between the Dominican Republic and Haiti that whole
Speaker 1: intense A light skin, dark skin, I'm African, you ain't
Speaker 1: African type of situation. We repudiate all that you either
Speaker 1: black all the time or you black none of the time.
Speaker 3: You know, people think because you have such a love
Speaker 3: for black people, that's for whatever reason, that translates to
Speaker 3: hate for white folks.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, because if that were true, why do I
Speaker 1: get so many requests for help from white parents? Why
Speaker 1: do I get so many requests for help from Asian parents?
Speaker 1: A raparents they don't have a problem. Text in my
Speaker 1: phone saying hey, can I pay this consultation? I need
Speaker 1: you to look at my child psychological evaluation. I never
Speaker 1: get apprehension from white parents when they need my help
Speaker 1: on special education or mental health cases. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So if it were that bad, I would
Speaker 1: assume they would not be reaching out to me. They
Speaker 1: have no issue reaching out to me, and they don't
Speaker 1: go through a filter. They come direct, even the snow bunnies. Listen,
Speaker 1: I know how you feel about that. I need help
Speaker 1: with my son. He's a white boy, blond hair, blue eyes.
Speaker 1: Will you help us pay the fee?
Speaker 3: I got you, And if you hated them, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: get off of the help.
Speaker 1: Why would I help him at all? You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Some of them buy my book too. They say, hey,
Speaker 1: I know your book is towards black families, but the
Speaker 1: information in there we can use it too.
Speaker 2: So do white parents ever call you and say, hey,
Speaker 2: my white son or my white daughter is into this
Speaker 2: black boy or black girl and we need to we
Speaker 2: want to RaSE him from there. Do they ever call
Speaker 2: you for that?
Speaker 1: No? I get the opposite. I'll get the black mother
Speaker 1: who say, doctor, Uma, my son is bunny hopping and
Speaker 1: it looks like he has a point of no return.
Speaker 1: Can you help me out? That's what I get. Do
Speaker 1: you have a camp, because I am I need a
Speaker 1: camp that's a good idea. What they do bunny hopping recovery.
Speaker 1: Bunny hopper is anonymous a camp. I need a camp.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad idea, that is a very good idea.
Speaker 1: You just gave you an idea. So what they do?
Speaker 1: Call you? How do you bring my God? They be
Speaker 1: upset like doctor uh, he's taking a white girl to
Speaker 1: the prime And I thought that was it. No no, no,
Speaker 1: she's living with him in his dorm. No no, no,
Speaker 1: they're about to move in together. No no, no, she's pregnant.
Speaker 1: Now what can I do? And the first thing I
Speaker 1: say to the black mother is are you sure you
Speaker 1: did not model love or addiction to whiteness before your son?
Speaker 1: Because many of these mothers who have an issue with
Speaker 1: this son with the white girl god, blond hair, blind weave.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying of the green contacts, Like
Speaker 1: I'm looking at how you present yourself. You look like
Speaker 1: you're trying to be a white girl. So if the
Speaker 1: mother is imitating whiteness, why wouldn't the son be attracted
Speaker 1: to it? Because your first love affair is with your mother,
Speaker 1: not sexually, psychosocially. So therefore, if I see my mother
Speaker 1: imitating white women? Are you not indirectly through your behavior
Speaker 1: suggesting that I date white females. So I think a
Speaker 1: lot of black mothers have to really check themselves with
Speaker 1: regard to how they're modeling the fact that they believe
Speaker 1: within themselves as a woman that white women are more attractive.
Speaker 3: And I want to ask you some Columbus Shaw says,
Speaker 3: since we're talking about that, you said he got some
Speaker 3: heat for saying that black men are dating outside their
Speaker 3: race because most Black women are raised by single mothers
Speaker 3: and absentee fathers and taught a don't need a man mentality.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on?
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I would say to my brother, Columbus
Speaker 1: Short and I'm a fan of his. Are we not
Speaker 1: all victims of the systemic oppression and injustice that racism
Speaker 1: has introduced into our community? So, just as you have
Speaker 1: black women who didn't grow up with their father, you
Speaker 1: have black men who didn't grow up with their fathers
Speaker 1: or their mothers. In other words, why is it acceptable
Speaker 1: for the black man raised by a black woman without
Speaker 1: his dad to reject a black woman raised by her
Speaker 1: mother without her dad. I think sometimes black men can
Speaker 1: be guilty of a double standard where we want a
Speaker 1: perfect offering when we ourselves are not a perfect offering.
Speaker 1: And to that point, I think black men need to
Speaker 1: recognize the fact that one of the reasons we have
Speaker 1: so much conflict with black women is because we don't
Speaker 1: operate on a masculine platform with our women all the time.
Speaker 1: We tend to operate on a female platform, for example,
Speaker 1: when the woman gets angry, rather than you trying to
Speaker 1: understand your queen nine emotionally. So you can't have both
Speaker 1: people in a relationship with a low emotional IQ because
Speaker 1: of both people in the home. If you and your
Speaker 1: wife both have a low emotional IQ, if you and
Speaker 1: your wife both have a low emotional IQ, y'all gonna
Speaker 1: argue over everything because nobody says, I am not gonna
Speaker 1: emote over this. I'm not gonna deal with this with feelings.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use reason and intelligence. That's what the man
Speaker 1: is supposed to do. But guess what we do. Raised
Speaker 1: by single mothers, many of us, we reflect right back
Speaker 1: to them that emotional trauma that they're throwing on us.
Speaker 1: So in essays, you have two females arguing, although one
Speaker 1: is in a man's body. Black men have to start
Speaker 1: being masculine and less feminine. All this cattiness, this back
Speaker 1: and forth between black men and black women on the
Speaker 1: internet that is feminine and feminine. Masculinity operate like that.
Speaker 1: Masculinity wants to understand where the woman is coming from.
Speaker 1: Masculinity wants to then intervene, study himself, evaluate his behavior,
Speaker 1: and try to level up to where she needs him
Speaker 1: to be. But arguing back and forth with women as
Speaker 1: a man, that's anti masculine behavior. What we really needed
Speaker 1: some testosterone shots. We need more testosterone because black men
Speaker 1: are mimicking female behavior emotionally and they're not even recognizing it.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of women who have high emotional
Speaker 3: like yous, who don't get caught up in the petty back.
Speaker 1: And for yes certain yes, sir, But normally more often
Speaker 1: than not, it's supposed to be the male. Sometimes the
Speaker 1: women does have that, which is good, but that also
Speaker 1: speaks to the fact that the women are becoming more
Speaker 1: masculinized and the men are becoming more feminized, not in
Speaker 1: terms of sexuality, but in terms of personality. The way
Speaker 1: that we are engaging each other in the back and
Speaker 1: forth male female thing. If we want to get real
Speaker 1: basic about it. You're dealing with two traumatized people who
Speaker 1: have not healed themselves out. They're trying to make a
Speaker 1: healthy relationship. Two unhappy people cannot make a healthy relationship.
Speaker 1: It is impossible. You cannot get water from oil. You
Speaker 1: can't get oil from water. If she's traumatized because her
Speaker 1: father abandoned her and he's traumatized because his mother chose
Speaker 1: her second husband over him, you got to deal with
Speaker 1: those unmet childhood issues. Most of us are still dealing
Speaker 1: with unmet childhood issues, and we're giving the responsibility to
Speaker 1: our partner to heal us from demons that can only
Speaker 1: be here with our parents. My wife can't undo what
Speaker 1: my mama did. I got to work with my mama.
Speaker 1: Your husband can undo what your daddy did. You got
Speaker 1: to work with your husband. But because we don't want
Speaker 1: to go back into the pain, because we've often eliminated
Speaker 1: those people from my lives, we just say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to work on this with my husband.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to work on this with my wife.
Speaker 1: They can be a support for you, but they can't
Speaker 1: beat a solution. We have too many spiritual vampires floating
Speaker 1: around the Black community. These are emotionally toxic people who
Speaker 1: don't present themselves as they are to the opposite sex.
Speaker 1: They present their social self, their psychological mass, and you
Speaker 1: don't realize who they really are Envy and Charlotte Maye
Speaker 1: until somebody gets pregnant. Y'all moving together, get married, or
Speaker 1: get engaged. The whole time y'all were dating, it was perfect.
Speaker 1: You said, I've been dating my queen for ten years.
Speaker 1: We never had an issue, get married, divorced than six months.
Speaker 1: You know why, because once y'all moved in that house together,
Speaker 1: your ego no longer wants to lie to her. Your
Speaker 1: ego no longer wants to lie to her Charlotte may
Speaker 1: and her ego doesn't want to lie to you. So
Speaker 1: now you start seeing things that you never saw ten
Speaker 1: twenty years when y'all were dating, because in cross proximity,
Speaker 1: the ego drops this mass.
Speaker 3: Damn doctor Whoma ain't playing the day. Let's get to it.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things to talk about. Do you
Speaker 3: think President Biden should step down?
Speaker 1: Do I think President Biden should step down? I got
Speaker 1: a couple answers to that. On the one end, Presidents
Speaker 1: don't make the final decisions anyway, So because they are puppets,
Speaker 1: it really wouldn't matter if he stepped down or not. However,
Speaker 1: from an optics perspective, he's showing against Donald Trump, and
Speaker 1: that debate didn't look good at all, even though they
Speaker 1: only three years apart. Right on the flip side, I'm
Speaker 1: not too sure the Democratic Party is ready to anoint
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris as quote unquote commander in chief because, as
Speaker 1: you know, in the post Barack Obama era, the last
Speaker 1: thing poor white America wants to see is another black
Speaker 1: person that's commander in chief. So I don't think they
Speaker 1: necessarily want to go that route. They don't have to.
Speaker 1: There's others as well. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: both men are extremely up there in age because I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a senior shamer if you would, right,
Speaker 1: because seniors are just as capable intellectually, many of them
Speaker 1: as those of us in our age bracket. At the
Speaker 1: same time, there's still the two oldest men to ever
Speaker 1: run and rerun for president of the United States. But
Speaker 1: you know what, doesn't that also speak to the weaknesses
Speaker 1: in both parties. If Joe Biden is the best the
Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee has. If Donald Trump is the best
Speaker 1: the Republican National Committee has. What is that saying about
Speaker 1: the talent y'all incubating?
Speaker 2: So what do you think about, you know, blacks loving
Speaker 2: Donald Trump so much, shaking his hand, kissing his kissing
Speaker 2: his hand, rubbing his bag, saying we support it.
Speaker 1: What do you think about slave master syndrome, white Jesus syndrome?
Speaker 1: We don't care if the white Jesus wears red or blue.
Speaker 1: We don't care what side of the owl that they're on.
Speaker 1: You know, Black America suffers from battered spouse syndrome envy.
Speaker 1: And what batter spouse syndrome speaks to is the fact
Speaker 1: that no matter how bad you beat me up, if
Speaker 1: I believe I need you in order to survive, I'm
Speaker 1: never going anywhere. And part of our problem, part of
Speaker 1: the equation to our problem as American Africans, while we
Speaker 1: don't do anything on our own, is we are often
Speaker 1: waiting for the great White Savior to come. This is
Speaker 1: a message that has been rehearsed for us in church.
Speaker 1: We get it in the media, we get it in
Speaker 1: the black community. So black people will never ever abandon
Speaker 1: their hope of a white savior coming to save them.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has no record whatsoever of saving black folks.
Speaker 1: When people ask me who you going to vote for
Speaker 1: at this point, neither one of them are going to
Speaker 1: get my vote. I considered Courtnel West because I love
Speaker 1: doctor West, intelligent, strong, good nature. But he's a bunny hopper,
Speaker 1: so he can't get my vote. Now, when I come
Speaker 1: back to Donald Trump and Joe Biden, I look at
Speaker 1: the fact that Donald Trump signed thirteen federal deaf executions
Speaker 1: while he was president. More than half of them was
Speaker 1: signed after Joe Biden won the election. Think about that. Now,
Speaker 1: Biden gets elected in November, sworn in January. Between that time,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump executes half of those thirteen people. Five of
Speaker 1: them were black men, and two of those black men
Speaker 1: were presumed innocent and their attorneys had introduced a stay
Speaker 1: of execution to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court turned
Speaker 1: them down, and Donald Trump executed those brothers. So when
Speaker 1: I hear black men say I'm voting for Donald Trump
Speaker 1: because he's going to bring more money in economic vitality
Speaker 1: into the black community, I say, what about the fact
Speaker 1: that he's out here killing black folks? You understand without
Speaker 1: no remorse at all, signing those type of federal death warrants.
Speaker 1: Two brothers was murdered within twenty four hours of each other.
Speaker 1: One of them was forty years old, and he was
Speaker 1: the first person to be murdered in seventy years for
Speaker 1: a crime he committed as a teenager. And in one
Speaker 1: of those cases, about six of the jurors said they
Speaker 1: would have changed their decision on the death sentence had
Speaker 1: they knew the information that the prosecution had withheld from them.
Speaker 1: That's why the attorney wanted to stay of execution to
Speaker 1: give the defense time to reformulate an argument in Supreme
Speaker 1: Court Snow Bunny Clarence Thomas and that crew said no,
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump signed his life away. So you got
Speaker 1: to look at that. You also got to look at
Speaker 1: the fact that Donald Trump wants to give police one
Speaker 1: hundred percent amenity. Wait a minute, look how they're killing
Speaker 1: us now. So now you're telling me that anything the
Speaker 1: police do in their line of duty, they cannot be
Speaker 1: held accountable for making bad mistakes and bad decisions. And
Speaker 1: you would have put that back in office. That's thirsty.
Speaker 1: Black men worry more about money than the lives of
Speaker 1: their people.
Speaker 3: The Supreme Court is corrupt, yes, legitimate, absolutely. How come
Speaker 3: enough people not talking about that.
Speaker 1: Because I don't think they understand the tripart take nature
Speaker 1: of American so called democracy. The Supreme Court, the President
Speaker 1: in the Congress, they actually have equal weight. Right, well,
Speaker 1: they did. But now, what the Supreme Court just did
Speaker 1: was they gave the president a few days ago absolute
Speaker 1: immunity from criminal prosecution for decisions made in office and
Speaker 1: carrying out his constitutionally protected duties. That's very dangerous because
Speaker 1: what that says is the president can never go to
Speaker 1: jail even if he commits genocide if it was done
Speaker 1: in an act of office. So let's say, hypothetically, Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: but Joe Biden sends the National Guard into New York
Speaker 1: to quell a Black protests, and the National Guard, god forbid,
Speaker 1: ends up executing a five thousand of our brothers and
Speaker 1: sisters who were protesting peacefully, even though it was ordered
Speaker 1: by the President of the United States. He cannot be
Speaker 1: held accountable for that. Why because he did it in
Speaker 1: discharging his duties as commander in chief. So we don't
Speaker 1: long longer have a president. We have an emperor, we
Speaker 1: have a czar, we have a King, because what the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court just did is said the president is beyond
Speaker 1: reproach and the president is beyond the reach of the law. Dangerous.
Speaker 3: I feel like enough people aren't having that conversation. They're
Speaker 3: not having that conversation to me, like, I understand, you know,
Speaker 3: talking about Biden and his bad debate performance. I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I even understand talking about Project two thousand twenty five,
Speaker 3: even though it's a hypothetical. But this is happening now, yes,
Speaker 3: and nobody.
Speaker 1: Has And for black folks, it don't matter if it's
Speaker 1: Trump or Biden. The bottom line is the president of
Speaker 1: the United States, none of whom have ever been friends
Speaker 1: of the black community, will have the ability to do
Speaker 1: what they want as long as it takes place within
Speaker 1: the execution of duty. They cannot be held criminally liable.
Speaker 1: Now here's my thing. I wonder what are the repercussions
Speaker 1: of that on the World Court when you're dealing with
Speaker 1: genocide in the Geneva Convention. So are you saying that
Speaker 1: the president of the United States cannot be held criminally
Speaker 1: responsible for crimes of genocide against humanity? That goes against
Speaker 1: the whole Geneva Convention. So I'm wondering what the UN
Speaker 1: and what the World Court has to say about the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court's decision.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Donald Trump currently and in
Speaker 3: particular the agenda that is Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: The Project twenty twenty five reminds me a lot remember
Speaker 1: the New Gingrich Contract on America back at the turn
Speaker 1: of the century. It kind of reminds me of that.
Speaker 1: It is very dangerous. But when I look at Project
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, a lot of it is already being
Speaker 1: carried out. You fault. So they want to eliminate the
Speaker 1: Department of Education. I think we talked about this probably
Speaker 1: my first visit to the Breakfast Club, where I spoke
Speaker 1: of how the US Constitution does not give your child
Speaker 1: a right to an education. The word education is not
Speaker 1: in the constitution. But many people feel like educational taxes
Speaker 1: or their taxes that go to education is to burden
Speaker 1: some incumbersome and they're saying, why do I have to
Speaker 1: pay school tax when a constitution doesn't even give nobody
Speaker 1: a right to get an education in the first place,
Speaker 1: So why am I paying for this? So a lot
Speaker 1: of people want to phase that out. Remember when you
Speaker 1: go to White America. Half of White America either don't
Speaker 1: have school aged children or don't send them a public
Speaker 1: school anyway. So when it completely blot out the school tax,
Speaker 1: not only that, the money that still remains, they want
Speaker 1: to redirect at the not charter schools, to private schools
Speaker 1: and parochial schools, which to my understanding, is a violation
Speaker 1: of the separation of church and state. How can you
Speaker 1: get public money to the Catholic school? But that's what
Speaker 1: they want to do. They also want to shut down
Speaker 1: Social Security. They also want to completely eliminate all diversity,
Speaker 1: equity and inclusion laws and bills. But I gotta say
Speaker 1: this though, because the Democrats are pretty hypocritical, because when
Speaker 1: you look at what Governor Desantists is doing in Florida,
Speaker 1: and when you look at the fact that you got
Speaker 1: eighteen states that have already passed laws to eliminate all diversity,
Speaker 1: equity and inclusion program that's a third right, Why aren't
Speaker 1: the Democrats pushing back against it? A governor? Excuse me?
Speaker 1: President Biden was reportedly reportedly stated that he will not
Speaker 1: push back against the Republican effort to eliminate all DEI programs.
Speaker 1: So doesn't that make you complicit in the removal of
Speaker 1: the DEI. See what the Democrats do that black people
Speaker 1: tend not to catch on is they'll let the Republicans
Speaker 1: play the bad guy because they can't afford to lose
Speaker 1: the black vote. So although we don't support DEI ourselves,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be the ones to front this. We're
Speaker 1: gonna let the Santists and the other Mavericks go out
Speaker 1: and do this. But guess what, We're not gonna push
Speaker 1: back against us, So it looks like it wasn't us,
Speaker 1: it was you. Because silence in the face of injustice
Speaker 1: is complicity. And that's why, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and the Republican Party are two wings
Speaker 1: on the same bird. And the one question we never have,
Speaker 1: when do we going to organize the black vote before
Speaker 1: we vote? If you notice, everybody tells us to vote,
Speaker 1: the politicians, black businesses, the fraternities, the churches, vote vote vote,
Speaker 1: the Urban League, the NAACP Congressional Black Caucus, vote vote vote.
Speaker 1: Why do you think nobody never says organized the black
Speaker 1: vote before you vote? So we vote as a block,
Speaker 1: so politicians know we're doing this as a people. You know,
Speaker 1: why if we voted as a block, Envy, we could
Speaker 1: hold people accountable. See if I vote as a block,
Speaker 1: I can hold Eric Adams accountable, I can hold Brandon
Speaker 1: Johnson accountable. I can hold Kamala Harris accountable because she
Speaker 1: know we went to the post as a people united
Speaker 1: and won this. But when you vote as individuals, get cyphrenic,
Speaker 1: disorganized black votes. Who you're gonna hold accountable? Envy? The
Speaker 1: man could do what he wants. You voted alone. You
Speaker 1: didn't link your vote with nobody. What can you do
Speaker 1: to me? You said you go to the Joe biddie.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do about police jennercide? What can you
Speaker 1: do to me? You voted by yourself. If you notice,
Speaker 1: if your political power is all about mass organization, if
Speaker 1: you're not organized, your vote only matters to the person
Speaker 1: you're electing. It'll never matter to us.
Speaker 2: Why don't you think we have an organization? I was
Speaker 2: watching it. I can't remember, but I think maybe Godfree
Speaker 2: Godfrey was talking about we just can't organize, even as
Speaker 2: organized crime. Like there's the Russian mafia, and there's the
Speaker 2: Chinese mafia, there's the Irish mafia, there's the Italy, the
Speaker 2: Italian mob. But then we can't organize together. Why do
Speaker 2: you think that is legally?
Speaker 1: Yes, you're absolutely right to your issue with crime. Take
Speaker 1: the Italian mafia back in their heyday. No women, no children,
Speaker 1: no elders. If you kill one, even by accident, we
Speaker 1: take your life. That was the rule. But in the
Speaker 1: black community, you can hit the eldest, hit the kids,
Speaker 1: the pregnant women, no rules, no consequences, self hatred, petty differences,
Speaker 1: and the indoctrination of white supremacy, meaning most black people
Speaker 1: feel the only people they need to be accountable to
Speaker 1: are whites. They can never answer to a black person.
Speaker 1: This is why if you talk to any black supervisor
Speaker 1: or black manager, they'll tell you they get more hell
Speaker 1: from their black employees than their white ones. Because whenever
Speaker 1: we see black authority, we rebel against it because we've
Speaker 1: been trained to believe that black people are worthless. And
Speaker 1: if you yourself is worthless, how much more worthless will
Speaker 1: be your authority over me. Until we do something about
Speaker 1: the collective self hate of African people, we will never
Speaker 1: change anything else. It is the psychological crutch of self
Speaker 1: hate that keeps us where we are. We are two
Speaker 1: trillion dollar people. Why be waiting for reparations. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, We're entitled to reparations, But why are we
Speaker 1: waiting on them with that type of money. It makes
Speaker 1: no sense. It's because we do not believe in work
Speaker 1: it together. We would rather wait on white supremacy to
Speaker 1: change itself before we change ourselves.
Speaker 3: I don't know. So if we can ever reverse the
Speaker 3: self hate that we have.
Speaker 1: We can, But you got to start with the children.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. We're raising the children the same way
Speaker 1: we were raised. You see that. I look at the
Speaker 1: way the Somebody just sent me the video the other
Speaker 1: day of three girls stomping out this crossing guard, I
Speaker 1: mean stomping her out, tried to kill her. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened, tried to kill her. Right Where do
Speaker 1: children get that? Where do they get this thing to
Speaker 1: self destruct, crash out on each other. They're taught it
Speaker 1: in their homes. And this is why when I first
Speaker 1: conceptualized the FDMG academy, I said, I want a residential school.
Speaker 1: I don't want them to come home. You know why,
Speaker 1: because I know the sickness is in the home. This
Speaker 1: is not in your DNA. It's passed down into generationally,
Speaker 1: from grandparent to parent, from parent to child. So if
Speaker 1: we want a new mindset, if we want a new consciousness,
Speaker 1: if we want a new program or platform, you have
Speaker 1: to train the children. There's an African proverb that says,
Speaker 1: whenever a new black baby is born, that's a message
Speaker 1: from God that he hasn't given up on African people yet.
Speaker 1: But until we start doing something with the children differently
Speaker 1: than what was done with us, nothing will ever change.
Speaker 1: It starts with the next generation.
Speaker 3: I see you, you know the Frederick Douglas Marcus Garvey Academy. Yes, sir,
Speaker 3: I see you in the building all the time.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir. They still saying we're the school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're still say everybody knows where you can't miss it.
Speaker 3: And you just was asking for something. What was you
Speaker 3: just asking for? Uh?
Speaker 1: Somebody to help us with the floors, with the floor
Speaker 1: we got we got so last time I was here,
Speaker 1: remember I was still struggling with the age vac. Remember that.
Speaker 1: So the age vac is done, plumbing is done, all
Speaker 1: the systems repaired. That was superficials. We gotta get the
Speaker 1: doors done. We got some doors that gotta be replaced.
Speaker 1: We got another layer of paints, so we're gonna do
Speaker 1: one more paint day. And then we got eleven floors.
Speaker 1: When we took the old rugs out, we got to
Speaker 1: cover them up right. So in fact, coming here one
Speaker 1: of the good sisters, who sister Jennifer out of Trenton,
Speaker 1: shout out to her and her husband. Uh. She has
Speaker 1: an uncle who does floor so I'm gonna meet with
Speaker 1: him this weekend and see what type of price he
Speaker 1: can give. Also some other brothers who do floors, and
Speaker 1: the prices wasn't too bad, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So once we do that last layer of coat and
Speaker 1: do them floors, were applying for the certificate of occupancy.
Speaker 3: You think that's gonna be hard to get.
Speaker 1: It could be because in talking with some of the
Speaker 1: businesses in the neighborhood, they're telling me that they've had
Speaker 1: to wait months before the city came out to do
Speaker 1: their inspection. This is what they're saying. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's true. They say, doc, you might got to
Speaker 1: wait a minute, and because you are who you are,
Speaker 1: they might try to nitpick you too. So I'm just gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, hope for the best. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: but cautiously understand that because they never thought we would finish,
Speaker 1: this could be a little bit of a push. I
Speaker 1: just hope it don't get to the point where I
Speaker 1: got to have a protest, you follow me. I hope
Speaker 1: it don't get to the point where we got to
Speaker 1: drag the city into court for discrimination against us because
Speaker 1: they never thought we would finish. And we're done, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I got to thank y'all
Speaker 1: for that because y'all help me get the word out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we there and so
Speaker 1: guy Willing, I believe if they don't take forever to
Speaker 1: inspect the building, hoping we get these floors done quickly,
Speaker 1: we should be able to have our inspection before the
Speaker 1: end of the summer.
Speaker 3: Are you concerned that some of these negroes, because that's
Speaker 3: that's been the only thing they can come at you with, Doctor,
Speaker 3: I don't got the school. Now that the school is,
Speaker 3: the school is almost done, do you think that some
Speaker 3: of these negroes are going to be protesting the most.
Speaker 1: Yes, because they're not gonna stop now that I'm open.
Speaker 1: They got to move the goalposts right sure, Now, it's
Speaker 1: how many kids? What is he teaching how many? They're
Speaker 1: never going to stop because the motivation is slandered. See,
Speaker 1: in the beginning, I thought the motivation was truth. I
Speaker 1: thought people who questioned me sincerely just wanted to know,
Speaker 1: are you scamming us? And then when I started breaking
Speaker 1: everything down and showing them how I'm not scamming them,
Speaker 1: and we ain't even spent no money because we ain't
Speaker 1: found no contractors, then I realized this ain't about the truth.
Speaker 1: This is about slander. Y'all just want to be entertained
Speaker 1: at my expense. And so people say, well, why haven't
Speaker 1: you been more transparent? I've been too transparent every time
Speaker 1: I come up and I think where we at, what
Speaker 1: problems we got? You know what I mean? How much
Speaker 1: more money we need? This is what we're going through.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think I've been too transparent. When we
Speaker 1: open up the next school, I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: that transparent. Y'all see it when it opens, no matter
Speaker 1: how long it takes. But I felt the need to
Speaker 1: be transparent because I didn't want to lose my loyal supporters.
Speaker 1: Because remember, most of FDMG donors, they are repeat donors.
Speaker 1: Very few people have only donated one time. These people
Speaker 1: who are questioning me, they've never donated at all, ain't
Speaker 1: got children going to the school, don't live nowhere there
Speaker 1: will make ting delaware, you understand me. So they're just
Speaker 1: doing this for kicks and giggles. The you two being
Speaker 1: struggle streamers, they will slander my project. These you two
Speaker 1: being struggle streamers, that's what they are YouTube, being struggle streamers.
Speaker 1: They will slander my project that get an extra one
Speaker 1: hundred views. Literally, you go to they pay. You did
Speaker 1: all that for one hundred views, You thirsty struggle streamer.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So my thing is, don't
Speaker 1: even feed them, stay focused on the work.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, what were your thoughts on
Speaker 2: on Diddy and everything that's going on with Diddy? We
Speaker 2: know what he did was horrific?
Speaker 1: Yes, or what are your.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on everything that's happening with Diddy?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's all you said. If Kathy was darkskin, itn't even.
Speaker 1: Be I believe that absolutely horrific, indefensible. But the response
Speaker 1: from the black community envying Charlottemagne, I believe it's somewhat hypocritical,
Speaker 1: and and I say that is forty percent of domestic
Speaker 1: abuse victims are Black women. Black women are being beat
Speaker 1: on on a regular basis. The femicide rate for black
Speaker 1: women is going through the roof. A Black woman is
Speaker 1: three times as likely as any other woman to be
Speaker 1: murdered by her lover, black or white. Y'all saw what
Speaker 1: happened with the sister in Milwaukee. Nineteen year old black sister,
Speaker 1: what about a month or two ago, went on a
Speaker 1: date with a thirty three year old Caucasian man. He
Speaker 1: killed her, dismembered her, spread her body all over the city.
Speaker 1: This is recent. And then you had a little seventeen
Speaker 1: year old sister down in Kate Carral, Florida. She walking
Speaker 1: back from the movies with her two friends, and a
Speaker 1: white boy just pull over, gets out the car and
Speaker 1: murders in broad daylight. And I ain't got to show
Speaker 1: you all the murders of black men what we're doing
Speaker 1: to our own women. I just saw one the other
Speaker 1: day with a brother killed, as children killed, the woman
Speaker 1: killed himself. Those are not typically Black crimes. We don't
Speaker 1: normally do that kind of stuff. We don't crash out
Speaker 1: like that, But we are now because the spirit foundation
Speaker 1: of African people, and the emotional wellness of African people
Speaker 1: is beginning to erode because we have bought into the
Speaker 1: ideology of material consumption that American capitalism has pushed on us.
Speaker 1: And we believe being happy and being whole and being
Speaker 1: psychologically healthy means owning and earning. So we equate health
Speaker 1: psychological health, which how much do I make and how
Speaker 1: much do I earn? And how much do I own?
Speaker 1: And that is not the foundation upon which African spirituality rests.
Speaker 1: We are a people where relationships are the most important
Speaker 1: thing to African people. Relationships, not what you earn, what
Speaker 1: you drive, and what you wear. But we bought into
Speaker 1: that and as a result of that, we are suffering
Speaker 1: from a spiritual famine. We are a spiritually infamished people
Speaker 1: and we're not recognizing it. And this is why rich
Speaker 1: blacks as well as poor blacks are equally likely to
Speaker 1: commit suicide or crash out on somebody else and take
Speaker 1: their life. So my thing is, when are we going
Speaker 1: to get back to valuing relationships and people more than
Speaker 1: the things that we own. That is a very big
Speaker 1: problem with us.
Speaker 2: Back to to dittyst.
Speaker 1: Back to ditty, It's hypocritical envy, because when I look
Speaker 1: at the amount of Black women who are abused in
Speaker 1: the community, and I look at the amount of Black
Speaker 1: people who turn the other cheek to this. Being a therapist,
Speaker 1: I see these things. Black women being abused in the church.
Speaker 1: They're being abused in the temple, They're being abused in
Speaker 1: the mass JD. They're being abused in the college. Teenage
Speaker 1: girls are being abused in their homes by their boyfriends.
Speaker 1: So I see all these black people snapping out on Ditty,
Speaker 1: as they should. He was wrong. But you didn't snap
Speaker 1: out on your son when he smacked his girlfriend up
Speaker 1: in front of your face. You didn't snap out on
Speaker 1: your brother when he's choked out his fiance. You didn't
Speaker 1: even You didn't snap out on your husband when he
Speaker 1: snapped out on you. So Diddy can be exposed and
Speaker 1: humiliated and shamed and embarrassed, but not the men in
Speaker 1: your life. When your son beasts on his wife, when
Speaker 1: your uncle, when your cousin, when your frat brother, when
Speaker 1: your pastor is guilty of doing the same thing Diddy did,
Speaker 1: it gets a pass. But when Diddy does it, he
Speaker 1: has to be exposed. I don't like the double standard
Speaker 1: that we have I don't like this hypocritical outrage at Diddy,
Speaker 1: but we don't see the same thing in the black community.
Speaker 1: For example, how many domestic abuse shelters have we opened
Speaker 1: since the Cassie Diddy film came out? If with that outrage,
Speaker 1: all these single black women being abused with children, right,
Speaker 1: how many celebrities or regular Black people have opened up
Speaker 1: domestic abuse shelters? How much money have has Black America
Speaker 1: donated to the fight against domestic abuse in our community?
Speaker 1: Go to the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church
Speaker 1: admits to they admit to at least ten thousand incidents
Speaker 1: of sex abuse against children involving over forty three hundred
Speaker 1: pastors or priests since nineteen fifty. From nineteen fifty to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, between ten and eleventh incidents of child sex
Speaker 1: abuse forty three hundred priests. Can I ask you a question,
Speaker 1: if what did he did is so bad, why do
Speaker 1: we still have three million African American Roman Catholics? If
Speaker 1: we are against abuse, Help me understand how this is
Speaker 1: wrong but molest than our kids are not.
Speaker 3: I tend to see people care more about issues when
Speaker 3: celebrities are attached and it makes me feel like they
Speaker 3: don't even care about the issue, they just care about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, the celebrities, I absolutely agree. I absolutely agree. And
Speaker 1: to your point that you raised earlier, if that was
Speaker 1: Lizzo and not Cassie, are we having this conversation if
Speaker 1: that was Lizzo, if that was a full figured chocolate
Speaker 1: African queen, doesn't even make the media. And then the
Speaker 1: other thing fellas.
Speaker 3: Big Lizzo, Yes, because she's a celebrity.
Speaker 1: Got you. But if it's just a regular four figure
Speaker 1: chocolate right, And I do believe Cassie's complexion plays a
Speaker 1: role in this because we do have a light skin
Speaker 1: supremacy issue in the black community. We also got dark
Speaker 1: supremacy issues as well. But if she's not a mixed race,
Speaker 1: light skinned sister and not a celebrity, this ain't this
Speaker 1: ain't no issue. This ain't no issue, you know because
Speaker 1: even in religion, I've seen pastors and emams condone violence
Speaker 1: against women. You know what I mean? You know? So
Speaker 1: I think the Black community got to stop being hypocritical.
Speaker 1: If we're really against domestic violence, let's do something against it.
Speaker 1: Because I raally hear celebrities, I raally hear civil rights leaders.
Speaker 1: I really hear business leaders talk up and out against
Speaker 1: the domestic abuse of black women. And when black women
Speaker 1: get domestically abused, it's twice as bad, you know why,
Speaker 1: because one that being psychologically harmed, right, and then number two,
Speaker 1: they can't go to the police because they're gonna be
Speaker 1: treated like an animal. This is what y'all people do.
Speaker 1: They can't go to the domestic abuse shelters because white
Speaker 1: people gonna look at them like they less than trash.
Speaker 1: So the black woman suffers in silence. And on top
Speaker 1: of that, what in most states, domestic abuse is a felony.
Speaker 1: I can't afford to send my children's father to jail.
Speaker 1: And then when they say, why daddy ain't here because
Speaker 1: I told, because I turned them in. So it's very
Speaker 1: complicated when you're dealing with black women and domestic abuse.
Speaker 1: And then add to that envy and Charlotte Mane in
Speaker 1: fact that most black women don't have a strong social network,
Speaker 1: They don't have sisters that they can rely on because
Speaker 1: those sisters are so insecure about their relationship with their
Speaker 1: man that you can't come take the spare room in
Speaker 1: my house, You can't come take the basement, you can't
Speaker 1: come take the Airbnb because my husband might start developing
Speaker 1: eyes for you. So you got to stay in that
Speaker 1: house and keep getting your head beating by that man.
Speaker 1: Even though I'm claiming to be a born again Christian,
Speaker 1: even though I'm claiming to be the most devout Muslim
Speaker 1: of all time, even though I'm claiming to be the
Speaker 1: top Hebrew in my community. I'm gonna let your husband
Speaker 1: keep banging your head in because I'm not gonna risk
Speaker 1: my husband sniffing for your cookies.
Speaker 3: Damn, what are your thoughts? I got so much stuff
Speaker 3: on to ask you. What do your thoughts in the WNBA,
Speaker 3: in particular the Kaitlyn Clark angel reaches battle.
Speaker 1: For Here's the thing my thoughts on Kaitlyn Clark and injuries.
Speaker 1: First of all, must respect the Caitlin Clark because to
Speaker 1: her credit, I don't feel she came into the WNBA
Speaker 1: acting like she was the savior. I did not get
Speaker 1: that from her. I mean I got from the white
Speaker 1: powersh structure, the snow bunny mafia of the WNBA that
Speaker 1: they tried to make her the face of the league
Speaker 1: before she proved herself, and in doing that, they're overlooking
Speaker 1: black female athletes who are much better than Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got.
Speaker 1: Ajian Wilson for the Los Angeles Aces. This is the
Speaker 1: first woman in WNBA history to score thirty five points,
Speaker 1: grab ten rebounds, and get five steals. So baby, you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So my thing is, how do
Speaker 1: you jump to Caitland Clark and overlook Ajia Wilson, a
Speaker 1: two time WNBA MVP. The Aces? They just won the
Speaker 1: last two championships. They sell out almost every other game,
Speaker 1: but the entire media's attention is on Kitlan.
Speaker 3: Clark, Prodigia, Don Staley.
Speaker 1: Prodigia at North Phillies down Stealey absolutely twenty second in
Speaker 1: dominant right. So when I look at even when we
Speaker 1: go back to the Lady Game Cocks, they won the championship,
Speaker 1: and all the attention with the Kitlyn Clark they had
Speaker 1: a near perfect season, only lost three games in three years.
Speaker 1: Caitland Clark gets all the attention since win absolutely and
Speaker 1: they was undefeated last year. Since when have you seen
Speaker 1: the losing team get more attention in the winning team?
Speaker 1: And then Gail King oprah sidekick. She gets on the
Speaker 1: interview with Don Staley and says, what were you thinking,
Speaker 1: because we were all rooting for Kitland Clark and Iowa.
Speaker 1: Iowa got what less than two percent Black students who
Speaker 1: was voting for Iowa, who was rooting for Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1: We wasn't wishing her no harm, but we was rooting
Speaker 1: for Don Stelley and then Lady Gagcox. The reason I
Speaker 1: started watching NCAA basketball again because I had a long hiatus,
Speaker 1: is because of Dawn Staley and then Lady Game Cox,
Speaker 1: not because of Kitlyn Clark and not because of nobody else.
Speaker 1: So I felt like Dawn Staley and the Lady Game
Speaker 1: Cox were shamed, were shamed because they didn't abow down
Speaker 1: to Caitland Clark and give her the white privilege. The
Speaker 1: year before when they beat the Lady Game Cox en
Speaker 1: route to losing two angel rees and lsu anybody who
Speaker 1: saw the game, so the referees gave it to him.
Speaker 1: They ripped them off. But of course Don Stelly couldn't
Speaker 1: say that right because they she'd be accused of playing
Speaker 1: a race card. But if you saw the game, they
Speaker 1: got cheated. So they did everything they could to make
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark the great White Savior. She's not there yet
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna be a great player, right, I
Speaker 1: think she's gonna have a tremendous legacy. But she's not
Speaker 1: a top ten player in the league. Now you take
Speaker 1: to look at Angeries. She's the first player in WNBA
Speaker 1: history to get thirteen straight double doubles, not rookie period.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So it's going to be
Speaker 1: interesting when it comes down to the Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year because you know they want to give it to
Speaker 1: Kitlyn that's that snowbunny privilege. But look at what Anger
Speaker 1: Reese is doing. I could probably settle for a cold
Speaker 1: rookie like they did with a Jason Kidd in Grant Hill.
Speaker 1: I can settle for a cold rookie, but you're not
Speaker 1: gonna give it to Caitlin Clark and try to ex
Speaker 1: out Anger Reese. And I hate the fact that they
Speaker 1: tried to make Anger Reice the bad guy. And I
Speaker 1: hate the fact that so many of our brothers in
Speaker 1: the sports world kind of parodied the narrative of the
Speaker 1: WNBA and charge the black women of the WNBA with
Speaker 1: being jealous of Caitlin Clark. Y'all jealous of all these
Speaker 1: attentions and then you had other brothers who say, well,
Speaker 1: she's the reason, y'all got flights. Now she's the reason this.
Speaker 1: How is she the reason when Asia Wilson was doing
Speaker 1: what she was doing before she got there, and there's
Speaker 1: other women who was doing what she was doing before
Speaker 1: she got there. Nobody's jealous of Caitlyn Clark. They're angry
Speaker 1: at the racism and the double standard that they are witnessing.
Speaker 1: You can't expect black women of the WNBA, with all
Speaker 1: the hell that they catch, to sit there and watch
Speaker 1: someone who is not as good as they are be
Speaker 1: elevated to a level that they were never put at.
Speaker 1: It's not fair. It's not jealousy. It's an anger because
Speaker 1: even at this level of society and professionalism and athletics,
Speaker 1: I still have to play second fiddle to the white girl,
Speaker 1: even when she's not good enough.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen you hand out lashes. In a minute,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to start giving them out, though.
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on Steven A.
Speaker 1: Smith some I was talking to somebody the other day.
Speaker 1: I didn't see what did Stephen They say about OJ?
Speaker 1: Something about O. J. Simpson.
Speaker 2: He was upset.
Speaker 3: I believe that him Okay had him in the in
Speaker 3: memori im package. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My view on my brother stephen A. Smith, I vacillate
Speaker 1: because one minute he'll say something that I say, good,
Speaker 1: like when they gave Steve Nash the Brooklyn Nets coaching
Speaker 1: job and he said, no black man gets that job
Speaker 1: with no experience, and you're gonna coach k D. Kyrie
Speaker 1: and James Harden. No black man gets that good job,
Speaker 1: stephen A. And then he'll go right back and do
Speaker 1: something cooonish like this. If B. E. T. Wants to
Speaker 1: honor OJ, let them ironor OJ. White people honor white
Speaker 1: people who are guilty of things right, And let us
Speaker 1: be clear. Did not OJ get acquitted. He was found innocent,
Speaker 1: So stephen A. If OJ Simpson was found innocent for
Speaker 1: the murder of Anna the Cole Smith, I believe the
Speaker 1: name was what was the name.
Speaker 2: Mur nic Nicole Brown?
Speaker 1: Right, forgive me forgetting the name wrong. But if he
Speaker 1: was found innocent in a court of law, how can
Speaker 1: you come back, stephen A. Smith thirty forty years later
Speaker 1: and say B. E. T was wrong for honoring the
Speaker 1: man when he was found innocent in court. So you're
Speaker 1: parroting a white supremacist narrative. I need stephen A to
Speaker 1: pick aside and stay on it because he floats back
Speaker 1: and forth. Now, to his credit, at least he does float.
Speaker 1: Some of them don't even float. They go hard on
Speaker 1: a white supremacit narrative and stay there, Steve and they
Speaker 1: go back and forth. I need him to pick a
Speaker 1: side because every time I'm proud of him, like stephen
Speaker 1: A did a good job that they breaking this down
Speaker 1: from a racial standpoint, to go right back to Coonan.
Speaker 1: So I just need him to pick a side and
Speaker 1: stay on it because I don't know where he stands.
Speaker 3: God bless it dead. But some people would say, well, now,
Speaker 3: doctor wom A, you defending a bunny hopper and OJ.
Speaker 1: Great question. I'm not defending the bunny hopping aspect of OJ.
Speaker 1: I'm defending the fact that OJ Simpson is a black man.
Speaker 1: And when I'm dealing with issues of black men or
Speaker 1: black people, what they do to one of us, they
Speaker 1: can do to any of us. And that's why when
Speaker 1: I look at Jonathan Major's situation, if you would he
Speaker 1: had no business bunny hopping. But does that mean Hicks's
Speaker 1: career should have been destroyed over that incident absolutely because
Speaker 1: she had a cut on the finger and a cut
Speaker 1: behind the ear or something like that. So he gets
Speaker 1: his whole career destroyed, even though we saw on TV
Speaker 1: he ran from the white girl, ran from the white girl.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you saw what his lawyer said,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Mayor, Major's lawyer said, he got convicted not necessarily
Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing not necessarily because he abused her, but
Speaker 1: in defending himself from her abuse, he was too aggressive.
Speaker 1: What the hell is that? And they found that she
Speaker 1: was guilty of abuse, but the prosecutor said they didn't
Speaker 1: have enough information to charge her. Look at that. So
Speaker 1: she walks and he gets his career destroyed. That's a
Speaker 1: damn shame. Even though he's guilty of bunny hopping. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see that happen to any black man
Speaker 1: because that could happen to me under other situations or
Speaker 1: circumstances that don't involve a white woman. So even if
Speaker 1: he's a bunny hopper, I still got to separate that
Speaker 1: out and look at how the impact of this case
Speaker 1: can affect all black men.
Speaker 3: And when the adults about the power that Lebron has
Speaker 3: in the Lakers' organization because you brought him. Steve national
Speaker 3: Y had no experience. When you see Lebron he gets
Speaker 3: his son drafted and the hiring of JJ Reddick, who's
Speaker 3: never coached anywhere. Absolutely, what are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in Black America because I feel like they're
Speaker 1: attacking Bronni more than JJ.
Speaker 3: Agree with you.
Speaker 1: How the hell is Bronnie James getting all this heat
Speaker 1: from Black America but JJ Reddick ain't getting all the sea.
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick and never won nothing. He ain't went nothing
Speaker 1: in college, He ain't win none in the NBA, he
Speaker 1: won no MVP. I don't know if he was ever
Speaker 1: a first team offense or defense, maybe once or twice,
Speaker 1: but he clearly don't have the record of a Sam Cassell.
Speaker 1: Sam Consell should have been offered that Lakers job, and,
Speaker 1: if not the Lakers job, one of the coaching vacancies.
Speaker 1: Look at all these good black assistant coaches out there
Speaker 1: who are being overlooked for white privilege. JJ Reddick did
Speaker 1: not earn that position. They gave it to him. But
Speaker 1: rather than attack that, we gonna attack the nineteen year
Speaker 1: old kid. I want Lebron to play with his son,
Speaker 1: because the optics of that I think will be very
Speaker 1: positive for young black males, and I think it could
Speaker 1: be a small motivation for black men to do more
Speaker 1: with their sons and more with our So I want
Speaker 1: to see Lebron and Bronnie on the same court. With
Speaker 1: one disclaimer. If I don't catch Bronnie James bunny hopping,
Speaker 1: no damn more because it be bunny hopping, I'm not
Speaker 1: supporting them. Bronnie James, I love you, young man, but
Speaker 1: if I catch you bunny hopping, I'm done with you.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be a role model bunny hopping. But
Speaker 1: outside of that, I want to see Lebron and his son, right,
Speaker 1: you want to see that. That's a good thing. Lebron
Speaker 1: does so much for basketball and the league. He's not
Speaker 1: the goat, that's Kobe and Mike, but he done so
Speaker 1: much for basketball in the league. He deserved that. Why
Speaker 1: I hate on that, and that's that blackmail jealousy. A
Speaker 1: big problem we have as black men is we don't
Speaker 1: like to see each other win. And the reason why
Speaker 1: we don't like to see each other win is because
Speaker 1: we operate in that European psychological mode of domination and
Speaker 1: control over everything. See when I see y'all, I see
Speaker 1: I and I my roster far and our brothers who
Speaker 1: I'll be with possibly for Garvey Day and Jamaica next month.
Speaker 1: They say, I and I, I and I means that
Speaker 1: when I speak, I'm speaking as you and I. When
Speaker 1: you speak, you speaking as me and you. When you hurt,
Speaker 1: I heard, when you struggling, I'm struggling. I A It
Speaker 1: is oneness. But we got so much competition amongst us
Speaker 1: as black men that when we see one win, we
Speaker 1: don't think nobody else can. And you know where that
Speaker 1: comes from the plantation. Back on the slave plantation, with
Speaker 1: the manumission laws, the slave master could only free a
Speaker 1: couple slaves a year. So if you got a plantation
Speaker 1: of five hundred, all of us want to be free,
Speaker 1: but only one can. Do you know what that automatically does.
Speaker 1: That sets us up as rivals, That sets us up
Speaker 1: as competitors, and that mindset of believing that only one
Speaker 1: black person can make it at the time is the
Speaker 1: reason why you get so much hate. It's the reason
Speaker 1: why you get so much hate. It's the reason why
Speaker 1: I get so much hate, because we have been conditioned
Speaker 1: to believe that if DJ Envy is winning on the
Speaker 1: breakfast Club, I can't win somewhere else. If Charlotta Magne
Speaker 1: is winning on the breakfast Club, I can't win somewhere else.
Speaker 1: If Doctor Umer opened up his own school in Delaware,
Speaker 1: I can't open up one somewhere else. There's enough room
Speaker 1: for all of us to win. So why did we
Speaker 1: get so jealous? Because we've been conditioned to think that
Speaker 1: the minute we get one winner, everybody else gotta loose.
Speaker 1: And that's what breeds the envy and the hate and
Speaker 1: the competition. We are not call ocasions. We are not Europeans.
Speaker 1: That's the way we are united. We stand divided. We
Speaker 1: thought it's all about I and I, not me and
Speaker 1: you black men. Got to get back to oneness.
Speaker 3: But want to say, because you said something about Brownie
Speaker 3: that was interesting. You said, Bronnie, I can't remember how
Speaker 3: you worded it. Just now you say you can't be
Speaker 3: a hero if he's Bunny.
Speaker 1: Hop You can't be a hero if your Bunny Hopper.
Speaker 3: But Kobe, God blessed the dead right both named No.
Speaker 3: I didn't call them role models. I called them the
Speaker 3: goats of basketball. Okay, Okay, I can't. And Kobe is
Speaker 3: my personal goat. I think he's the greatest basketball player
Speaker 3: of all time. I can't hang his picture up in
Speaker 3: the Frederick Douglas Marcus Garvey Academy, damn, because you bunny hopped.
Speaker 1: I think Eddie Murphy, I'm gonna say he's a close
Speaker 1: second to Richard Pryor. But Eddie's so talented he may
Speaker 1: have trump Richard. But guess what, Eddie and Richard are
Speaker 1: both bunny hoppers.
Speaker 3: And he got black laby mamas two though.
Speaker 1: I know, But his wife is I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I don't even if you're married, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, that last one he was with, she was you
Speaker 1: see Dave Chappelle, I love him for as human. Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle ain't married to a black woman. His picture can't
Speaker 1: go up in my school. I love him, I like him,
Speaker 1: but I can't hold you up as a role model
Speaker 1: because in order for you to complete that role model process,
Speaker 1: your queen got to look like your mother. You see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And so I can't hold them up.
Speaker 1: I can respect them. I could like him, but a
Speaker 1: role model meaning black men, is to come in your
Speaker 1: image in your steady, in your path. I can't do that.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm hoping Broni James does a bunny
Speaker 1: hot because he's going to get a lot of his
Speaker 1: father's cachet. Until Lebron's credit. He married Savannah, a beautiful
Speaker 1: African queen. I need Bronni to do the same thing.
Speaker 1: And if I could talk to Lebron and Savannah, I
Speaker 1: want to know why he took a snow bunny to
Speaker 1: the prom. I guess because Lebron took a snow bunny
Speaker 1: to the prom. But I need Lebron and Savannah to
Speaker 1: work that. I because I love y'all as a great
Speaker 1: black fell.
Speaker 3: School.
Speaker 1: Why did somebody send me a picture of Lebron with
Speaker 1: a white girl? This is the other day they said
Speaker 1: he took a white girl to the pro.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he took Savantage to the pronce. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe he won on the white girl's prime. Maybe
Speaker 1: he took Savannah maybe one of the white girl's prime.
Speaker 1: But somebody said he took a white girl to the prom,
Speaker 1: so I got to investigate that. But yeah, no bunny
Speaker 1: hopping black queens forever.
Speaker 2: Nobody never said they said they just sent me on
Speaker 2: a tech. They said, Eddie Murphy is not married just
Speaker 2: as girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me why is she? What is she?
Speaker 2: She's Caucasian. See she's Caucasian. Eminem, Yes, can't be the
Speaker 2: goat because he's white.
Speaker 1: Is with Eminem? Cannot be the goat because he's white.
Speaker 1: First of all, my perspective on this issue is not
Speaker 1: about Eminem. I gotta make this clear. It could be anybody.
Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying. You could put Maclin Moore
Speaker 1: in the conversation or MC search no Caucasian, Arab, East Indian, European, Jew, Latino,
Speaker 1: no non African can be the best of anything that
Speaker 1: is African, because that is our culture and you never
Speaker 1: relinquish control over your culture. So he could be a
Speaker 1: great lyricist if they were to say he's one of
Speaker 1: the best lyricists of all time. They can say that
Speaker 1: if they want. But you ain't no goat. You don't
Speaker 1: put a white person over something that we created that
Speaker 1: has roots going to all way back to ancient Kimmit
Speaker 1: and you're gonna give it over to a Caucasian. That's
Speaker 1: not fair. You do not do that. There's too many
Speaker 1: black MC's who are better than Eminem lyrically, who if
Speaker 1: you're going to go goat status, you need to consider.
Speaker 1: But Eminem and a lot of them who are saying
Speaker 1: this are only saying this because they're hoping Eminem throw
Speaker 1: them some money, throw them a cameo. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're really speaking out of their truth. I think they're
Speaker 1: speaking out of their desperation to get put on by Eminem.
Speaker 1: But I was very disappointed and seeing all these black
Speaker 1: males come out against me and defense the Eminem. I
Speaker 1: think they're all went the law school overnight and got
Speaker 1: a law degree because they put on some of the
Speaker 1: best soliloquies I've ever seen. And I ain't gonna call
Speaker 1: they names, but I'm disappointed, and because some of them
Speaker 1: are like, they're my favorite artists, right, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: come on, bro, you don't feel the need to protect
Speaker 1: your culture from nobody. And I'm seeing them defend Eminem
Speaker 1: without his requestsut without a requirement, without being paid. And
Speaker 1: you know what bothered me, I've never seen none of
Speaker 1: them rappers who defended Eminem against me. I've never seen
Speaker 1: them defend black women like that in public. I've never
Speaker 1: seen them speak out against domestic violence like that. I
Speaker 1: never seen them speak out of disrespect towards Black women
Speaker 1: in public. So you will go to war for a
Speaker 1: white man. Here we go white Jesus syndrome again. I
Speaker 1: gotta defend my savior. You'll go to war for Eminem,
Speaker 1: You'll go to war for Caitlin Clark, You'll go to
Speaker 1: war for JJ Reddick, and you'll never lift your voice
Speaker 1: up to protect a black woman in public.
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar Vus Drake.
Speaker 1: Here's my issue with Kendrick Lamar Versus Drake. First of all,
Speaker 1: shout out to Kendrick. I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: more socially progressive rappers.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I don't see him worshiping materialism like so many of
Speaker 1: the rest of them do. I like Kendrick and what
Speaker 1: he brought those brothers together to celebrate without any violence,
Speaker 1: the whole community loving it. I thought it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Kendrick. But Kendrick, I need you to
Speaker 1: keep that same energy when it's time to fight against
Speaker 1: gentrification in Los Angeles because Black people are being displaced
Speaker 1: in extreme numbers in Los Angeles, Compton, South Central, Long Beach,
Speaker 1: all in that area. So don't just bring out people
Speaker 1: together to party and then support your beef with Drake.
Speaker 1: Bring them the gather the protest, to march, and to
Speaker 1: organize against gentrification. Because there is a Mexican bourgeoisie, white
Speaker 1: bourgeoisie click in LA that is working together against Black people.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the Mexicans and the Caucasians, not as
Speaker 1: a group, but their elites and their leaders are clicking
Speaker 1: up and working against Black people in Los Angeles County
Speaker 1: and surrounding areas to push us out the neighborhood. Black
Speaker 1: incarceration rates in California are some of the highest in
Speaker 1: the country. Kendrick Lamar, why don't we organize against that?
Speaker 1: We see organized to hire some of our young people,
Speaker 1: organize the build a school, organized to build a hospital.
Speaker 1: I like what he did, but don't tell me you
Speaker 1: only did that to celebrate the beef. You understand. Use
Speaker 1: those brothers, bring them back together and achieve something systematically
Speaker 1: to help our people out. Same thing. Go for Drake.
Speaker 1: You and Canada. Black people in Canada struggling. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of supporters in Canada. We talk all the time.
Speaker 1: I be going to Canada next month or maybe three
Speaker 1: months from now, but nonetheless they catching the same hell miseducation,
Speaker 1: mass incarceration, gentrification, police genocide, economic of park time. Drake,
Speaker 1: Are you thinking about building the school, drake? Are you
Speaker 1: going to open up a supermarket? Drake? Are you going
Speaker 1: to open up a farm and teach these young kids
Speaker 1: how to farm? Same thing for Kendrick Lamary. I got
Speaker 1: the money to do it. I'm not pocket watching. But
Speaker 1: don't bring those people together just the party. You got
Speaker 1: to bring us together to do something, because what you're
Speaker 1: doing is you're playing on people emotions. Black people see
Speaker 1: crips and bloods coming together. Shout out to both of them,
Speaker 1: piecing it up, working together and joining themselves with Kendrick.
Speaker 1: That was good. We need the social we need a break,
Speaker 1: we need a release. But brother, we also need political progress.
Speaker 1: We also need economic structure. We also need social progress.
Speaker 1: So don't just limit it to that. Take it to
Speaker 1: the next level. And I do got to say this
Speaker 1: on that note of the whole eminem being the goat.
Speaker 1: You got to have boundaries around your culture. When I
Speaker 1: saw Rick Ross got swung on by that Caucasian, that
Speaker 1: bothered me because here you have a black artist being
Speaker 1: swung on by a Caucasian who also believe was an artist,
Speaker 1: but it was over to Drake Beef. We have allowed
Speaker 1: nine Africans to get so comfortable in our culture that
Speaker 1: they would step to an artists and swing on him
Speaker 1: in the name of a beef that is all black,
Speaker 1: that ain't got nothing to do with them, and feel
Speaker 1: completely comfortable swinging on a black artist. That should not
Speaker 1: be acceptable. Not all black. Say that again, what do
Speaker 1: you mean.
Speaker 3: Because Drake is not all black? He's half black.
Speaker 1: Well, there's really no such thing as half He's a
Speaker 1: black man with a white mother. But to what I understand, Well,
Speaker 1: and I guess this is controversial because I believe Drake
Speaker 1: always identified as black. That's what I saw. I don't
Speaker 1: follow him heavy, but that's what I saw. I'm hearing
Speaker 1: people say he didn't necessarily it was cosplay.
Speaker 3: It was it was cosplay, meaning that he was pretending
Speaker 3: to imitate Black American culture in order to Drake Drake.
Speaker 1: I saw that. Now, when when was that in his life?
Speaker 1: It's not acceptable? But was that recent? Was he a kid?
Speaker 3: I think mostly when he became a rapper. As you've
Speaker 3: seen him evolved, You know what I mean, because you
Speaker 3: remember the originally they had the video where he had
Speaker 3: the bar mitzvah in the video. Okay, he was just
Speaker 3: a cool Jewish kid.
Speaker 1: But he was always okay, so he.
Speaker 3: Never claim to be black American though, I never heard
Speaker 3: that from Drake.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I know if he ever said I'm mixed race,
Speaker 1: I'm not black, I'm mixed race.
Speaker 2: I've never heard.
Speaker 3: He's always claimed his Jewishness.
Speaker 2: Always, Yes, He's always he's always claimed.
Speaker 1: That, yes, Okay, So he's always been unapologetic about the Jewishness, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but not necessarily unapologetic about being black. I haven't heard that,
Speaker 1: But then he needs to clarify. I wouldn't need Drake
Speaker 1: to clarify that for me. You think I think he's.
Speaker 2: Been black, but he's also said that he's Jewish.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with him saying that because
Speaker 1: he don't have to renounce his mother to be a
Speaker 1: black man. You follow what I'm saying. But I need
Speaker 1: him to be unapologetic about his blackness. And if he's
Speaker 1: more unapologetic about being Jewish then he is about being African,
Speaker 1: then I can't consider him one of us. He got
Speaker 1: to clarify that for me, right I'm working from the
Speaker 1: assumption that he's made it clear that I'm black, and
Speaker 1: I know that's who I am. If he ain't made
Speaker 1: that clear, then I need some answers from Drake, which
Speaker 1: means Kendrake is justified in his crier. Not like us.
Speaker 3: He told Kendrick. He said, Yo, you you always rapping
Speaker 3: like you want to set the slaves tree. Drake said that, yes,
Speaker 3: one of the disc records.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, that's why Kendrick said on his record, No,
Speaker 3: once upon a time we all was in change. Yes,
Speaker 3: Homeie still double down calling us some slaves. Yes, that's
Speaker 3: why he said that in response to what Drake said.
Speaker 1: I didn't know Drake. Oh man, Oh no, okay, I
Speaker 1: got the table this one. I got some research to do. Drake,
Speaker 1: hit me up. If this is wrong. I need clarity,
Speaker 1: my brother. I need clarity. Now. I understand where Kendrick
Speaker 1: came from. But my thing again with Kendrick lov him
Speaker 1: likingim take this to another level. You have that type
Speaker 1: of influence amongst our people where you can bring opposing
Speaker 1: parties together, have fun and enjoy themselves. Let's build something
Speaker 1: with that in itg We can't stop with partying. We
Speaker 1: have to pro create another thing.
Speaker 3: Kendrick said. He said he didn't want to hear Drake
Speaker 3: say say the word nigga no more. And you were
Speaker 3: on Little Yachti's a Safe Place podcast and you said
Speaker 3: that the use of the n world should be outlawed
Speaker 3: because the PTSD absolutely traumatic slavery.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Malcolm Jamal Warner was up here. He feels the same way.
Speaker 1: So yes, nobody should be using it. Because when I
Speaker 1: call you an ni doublega, you don't you never met
Speaker 1: me before. And Charlotmagne said, hit come on, or Emmy said,
Speaker 1: hit come on. Are you expecting to see a lawyer,
Speaker 1: a doctor, a business owner when you get the prefix
Speaker 1: niwga or are you expecting anything positive to walk through that door? No?
Speaker 1: You see, so the word does not have a positive connotation.
Speaker 1: And here's the bigger question. Why are we trying to
Speaker 1: rescue the most racially offensive and derogatory term ever used
Speaker 1: in the history of mankind. You don't see European Jews
Speaker 1: trying to rescue of the pejorative terms used against them.
Speaker 1: You don't see Latinos doing that. You don't see Asians
Speaker 1: show me and other people who are fighting for the
Speaker 1: right to use the most dehumanizing label in history to
Speaker 1: refer to each other in a social space. It speaks
Speaker 1: to the self hate. It speaks to the fact that
Speaker 1: we do feel inferior to other people. Because if I
Speaker 1: didn't feel inferior, there's no way in hell I would
Speaker 1: fight for the right for for envy to call me that.
Speaker 3: Damn. I got a few more questions Philadelphia, Well, just
Speaker 3: in general, what do you think about school choice? Because
Speaker 3: we saw what happened in Pennsylvania recently, where's been upset
Speaker 3: with z because jay Z decided him and Rock Nation
Speaker 3: decided to be a benefactor to this school choice.
Speaker 1: Did he change direction? Because I don't think he really knew.
Speaker 1: He's not an educator, so I think Sean Carter thought
Speaker 1: he was doing something positive. Yes, did he change direction
Speaker 1: or did he say I'm staying with this initiative.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I'm wondering to he should change direction? Mister Carter.
Speaker 1: Remember we met back in nineteen ninety seven Pricillo Gymnasium,
Speaker 1: Millersville University. That was me. Oh, anyway, we brought him
Speaker 1: to the Spring Flame concert, him and KRS one back
Speaker 1: when I was BSU president. Anyhow, I do not support
Speaker 1: school choice. I'm gonna tell you why DJMV and Charlotta
Speaker 1: Mane a millionaires doctor Umar is not DJ and Envy
Speaker 1: hypothetically got multiple children. So if school choice is going
Speaker 1: to give them ten thousand dollars per child, you good
Speaker 1: with that? You know why you can pay the other
Speaker 1: thirty thousand for your four children's private school tuition. I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm a working class brother raising four kids on my
Speaker 1: own pup. If New York City public schools give me
Speaker 1: ten grand, or Philadelphia Public schools give me ten grand,
Speaker 1: or Newark, New Jersey public schools give me ten grand,
Speaker 1: I still got to come up with the other thirty.
Speaker 1: I still got to come up with the other twenty.
Speaker 1: My point is school choice only benefits middle and upper
Speaker 1: middle class Black families. Most of our kids are raised
Speaker 1: by who they mother sixty seven percent. Fifty percent of
Speaker 1: all homeless families are Black women and their children fifty percent,
Speaker 1: which is why I got to get on Area Adams
Speaker 1: of Brandon when we get to the migrant crisis. But
Speaker 1: my point is this, how does school choice benefit poor parents?
Speaker 1: How does it benefit working class I'm barely paying my mortgage,
Speaker 1: and you see the price of everything has went up, everything, food, utilities, rent.
Speaker 1: How am I going to pay all these bills as
Speaker 1: a single black mother raising sixty seven percent of our
Speaker 1: kids and still find money to offset the cost of tuition.
Speaker 1: It's not realistic. School choice is a scam. It makes
Speaker 1: poor people think that we're gonna give you an opportunity
Speaker 1: to sing a child to a better school, although we
Speaker 1: know you can't pay the balance. It's a scam. I
Speaker 1: do not support school choice. Another thing, don't forget about
Speaker 1: black boys. Dj Nvy hypothetically DJ Envy's son is a
Speaker 1: problem child. Charlemagne daughter is a problem child. Even though
Speaker 1: y'all can afford the tuition, you got a problem. You
Speaker 1: know why, because the Catholic school can accept who they want.
Speaker 1: The private school can accept who they want when they
Speaker 1: see all them pink slips in your son's record, when
Speaker 1: they see all those pink slips in your daughter's record.
Speaker 1: Even though y'all can afford it, even though y'all celebrities,
Speaker 1: they gonna say get out of here, and there's nothing
Speaker 1: you can do. Because they independent or they parochial, they
Speaker 1: can operate like that public schools gotta take everybody, not
Speaker 1: the independent schools. So here's my question, where are all
Speaker 1: the black kids nobody want going to go? Once New
Speaker 1: York City becomes a complete school choice district. You see
Speaker 1: that with shutting down public schools. Find a private or
Speaker 1: front a private or parochial school HICCO ten K. But
Speaker 1: nobody wants your son where he going to go? You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. You're basically going to create a
Speaker 1: massive black male high school dropout academic epidemic. It's not
Speaker 1: like we don't have one, but it's gonna be mushroomed
Speaker 1: because nobody has to take your child. So all these
Speaker 1: ady h D boys, ed D oppositional, intermittent, explosive, riddling
Speaker 1: adderall concerto cyclerk meade, who want them? Because remember, the
Speaker 1: private schools don't have to have special at Catholic schools
Speaker 1: don't have to have special let they ain't got no
Speaker 1: special class for that emotionally disturbed boy. Who gonna take them? Nobody?
Speaker 1: It's the quickest way to destroy the futures of black boys.
Speaker 1: I do not support school choice. It's a Republican scam.
Speaker 2: Now let's go to the migrant issue.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, which everybody wants to label. Whenever you talk
Speaker 3: about what the black activists in Chicago are going through,
Speaker 3: or whenever you talk about what black people here in
Speaker 3: New York are complaining about, they'll say, that's maga messaging.
Speaker 3: How is it maga mess It's not an American message.
Speaker 1: Listen. The bottom line is when Joe Biden got elected,
Speaker 1: he said he wanted to fast track four million undocumented
Speaker 1: residents to full citizenship. Black people completely ignored it. I
Speaker 1: spoke on it. I said, do you know why he
Speaker 1: won a fast track four million? Because he know he's
Speaker 1: not gonna do nothing for us. We ain't going to
Speaker 1: be motivated to vote for him November. So what he's
Speaker 1: going to do is have these migrants already set up
Speaker 1: with citizenship so they can replace the black vote that
Speaker 1: he loses. The migrants are being put in our communities
Speaker 1: on purpose, New York and Chicago on purpose because they
Speaker 1: are what the two blackest cities in America, they are
Speaker 1: the two largest cities in America. They're the two most
Speaker 1: politically conscious black communities in America. So if we can
Speaker 1: wash out the black with the brown in New York,
Speaker 1: if we can wash out the black with the brown
Speaker 1: in Chicago, Philly, don't stand a chance, Atlanta, don't stand
Speaker 1: a chance, La Houston, Dallas, Detroit, Chicago, don't stand a chance.
Speaker 1: The migrants are here for three reasons. Replace us at
Speaker 1: the post, replace us at the low, low end industry jobs. Right.
Speaker 1: See when Donald Trump said during the debate that Joe
Speaker 1: Biden is taking black jobs and giving them to migrants,
Speaker 1: he was correct, although he didn't say it because he
Speaker 1: cared about us, But he's right. When people say, what
Speaker 1: do he mean by black jobs, get out your bougie
Speaker 1: feelings and deal with the reality. One third of black
Speaker 1: men have a felony, so there's a lot of jobs
Speaker 1: they will never qualify for. They are mostly what essential workers, warehouse, trucking, security,
Speaker 1: and a lot of those jobs are going to who
Speaker 1: the migrants. So that's what he meant by black jobs.
Speaker 1: We got to stop being so sensitive and look at
Speaker 1: the reality of it. I was reading a report the
Speaker 1: other day they said the Latinos take it over, his
Speaker 1: taking over the construction jobs, they taking them over, and
Speaker 1: the low industry work like you're guarding in your landscaping,
Speaker 1: completely taking it over. They're not the enemy. The problem
Speaker 1: is black people don't get as much opportunity. So then
Speaker 1: people say, well, you know, white people don't really like
Speaker 1: brown people like that. That's true, but you know what
Speaker 1: the difference is, they don't have the burden of accountability
Speaker 1: with them that they had with us. We built the country,
Speaker 1: So every time they look at us to deal with us.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is y'all brought them here and they
Speaker 1: built y'all into what y'all are. They don't have to
Speaker 1: say that to the Venezuelans. They don't have to say
Speaker 1: that to the Colombians, they don't have to say that
Speaker 1: to the Mexicans. So although they don't like brown, they
Speaker 1: will much rather deal with them than the black because
Speaker 1: with the black, that is a white man's burden that
Speaker 1: you owe him restitution for two hundred and forty six
Speaker 1: years of unpaid labor. Now let's look at what Aery
Speaker 1: Adams is doing over there in New York. A family
Speaker 1: of Ford is getting fourteen hundred dollars a month. Fourteen
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month. Do you know that that's more
Speaker 1: than what some of the veterans are getting With the child,
Speaker 1: they're getting more money than veterans who served in the military.
Speaker 1: Not only that, they getting free food, steps, free childcare,
Speaker 1: and permanent housing. Although New York City has a black
Speaker 1: homelessness rate no less than thirty five percent. So you
Speaker 1: got black people who pay taxes living on the street,
Speaker 1: and you got migrants who ain't paid a single tax
Speaker 1: in their life, eating and living better than the black
Speaker 1: people who built the country. If I was talking to
Speaker 1: Eric Adams and Brandon Johnson of Chicago, I would ask
Speaker 1: them something, what are the Democrats? What is the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party giving you guys that you're willing to sacrifice your
Speaker 1: political future to push this migrant agenda because I don't
Speaker 1: see how they get reelected by black folks. I don't
Speaker 1: see how. And if your city goes to the migrants,
Speaker 1: you could best believe the migrants ain't elected a black
Speaker 1: person to mayorship. So you're literally dying on your sword
Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party. Do you know that New York
Speaker 1: City has spent one and a half billion dollars on
Speaker 1: the migrant crisis so far. It's projected that this year
Speaker 1: so twenty twenty three was one and a half billion
Speaker 1: dollars to take care of Mike one and a half
Speaker 1: billion twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five, they said
Speaker 1: it will cost New York City nine billion. Chicago has
Speaker 1: spent about three hundred and fifty million dollars this year
Speaker 1: on the migrant crisis, and that's expected the quadruple. And
Speaker 1: you know what was so disrespectful about Chicago with regard
Speaker 1: to Brandon Johnson. Remember all them schools they shut down
Speaker 1: in Chicago because they said they couldn't afford to operate them.
Speaker 1: They opened them up. Not only did they open them up,
Speaker 1: they rented, they renovated them, turned them into apartments for migrants.
Speaker 1: So you sleep upstairs, go to school downstairs. How is
Speaker 1: it that you ain't got money for jobs for black people,
Speaker 1: which is a big reason why you got so much crime.
Speaker 1: You got all these homeless black people in Chicago. But
Speaker 1: you can take care of the migrants before you take
Speaker 1: care of black people. And that's why I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: Black Chicago organizes just like co founder of the Black
Speaker 1: Panther Party Bobby Seal did at the nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 1: Democratic National Convention in Chicago. Bobby Seal turned up and
Speaker 1: turned it out with the Black Panthers. I hope Chicago
Speaker 1: doesn't let President Biden and Vice President Harris come there,
Speaker 1: because you know, the Democratic National Convention is in Chicago
Speaker 1: August nineteenth through August to twenty. First, I hope Black
Speaker 1: Chicago don't let the Democrats come to your city where
Speaker 1: they have bred this migrant crisis and y'all don't do
Speaker 1: nothing about it. And I'm gonna tell you else these
Speaker 1: to stand up and show out Milwaukee even though they
Speaker 1: don't have a migrant crisis like Chicago and New York.
Speaker 1: The Republican Convention is in Milwaukee next Monday. This's coming Monday.
Speaker 1: And guess what, Milwaukee black people are the largest ethnic group.
Speaker 1: Unlike Chicago is white hispanic black, Milwaukee is black, white Hispanic.
Speaker 1: But guess what, Milwaukee has one of the worst Black
Speaker 1: male graduation rates in America. So I'm hoping that Black
Speaker 1: Wisconsin goes to that Republican National Convention and exercise their
Speaker 1: First Amendment rights to peacefully assemble in protests. But don't
Speaker 1: let them come to your city after causing all these
Speaker 1: problems and let them leave without them hearing from you.
Speaker 1: They are replacing US America. If they can do it,
Speaker 1: They're gonna purge black people with brown Why do you
Speaker 1: think the New York regents. Did you see that They
Speaker 1: said they're gonna stop requiring the regents examination to get
Speaker 1: your high school diploma in New York? Is it that convenient?
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we get a migrant crisis in
Speaker 1: New York and now you don't have to pass through
Speaker 1: regions no more. You know why, because we got to
Speaker 1: make sure the migrants take all the jobs from black folks.
Speaker 1: They're already taking over the social services. They dominated the
Speaker 1: social services. And you black and hungry and need some
Speaker 1: food too late. The migrants got it. Same thing in Chicago.
Speaker 1: You black and hungry, we need some food, needed job,
Speaker 1: the migrants got it. I'm trying to understand how Eric
Speaker 1: Adams and Brandon Johnson can hand out all these work
Speaker 1: permits when you got all these unemployed black men, half
Speaker 1: of black men in New York unemployed, half of black
Speaker 1: men in Chicago unemployed, but you got migrants getting jobs.
Speaker 1: You're holding job fairs for migrants, you're giving out a
Speaker 1: job passes for migrants. And you know, because of the
Speaker 1: election fraud, if you got a work permit, it ain't
Speaker 1: that hard to get a voting registration permit. But I
Speaker 1: got a question for Eric Adams did y'all see He
Speaker 1: said that he was thinking about staffing the pools during
Speaker 1: the summer with migrants because they're good swimmers. Right, forty
Speaker 1: of black teens fifteen to twenty four that age group
Speaker 1: are unemployed in New York. Mayor Eric Adams, how you
Speaker 1: going to give the lifeguard jobs to the migrants when
Speaker 1: half your black kids ain't got no job. Don't you
Speaker 1: think you should start with the children that are black
Speaker 1: people who pay taxes. I really don't understand them too.
Speaker 1: I do kind of feel sorry for them.
Speaker 3: I don't think like black people can't swim. He's buying
Speaker 3: into that stereotype.
Speaker 1: Put some money out there, We're going to swim. But
Speaker 1: my thing is, I know they know what they're doing
Speaker 1: isn't good for their political future. The only thing I
Speaker 1: can think of is they're too afraid to tell the
Speaker 1: Democratic national machine that I'm not going to go along
Speaker 1: with this because you know they can destroy them. I
Speaker 1: really think they're being forced to sacrifice their career in
Speaker 1: order to purge their own people from the two largest cities.
Speaker 2: Now, if people do want to help and donate for
Speaker 2: your school, of course, can you give them information.
Speaker 1: About it as absolutely. Also, I just started a new
Speaker 1: mailing list, so I want all the viewers' supporters to
Speaker 1: go to any of my social media pages. You could
Speaker 1: go to doctor Umar Johnson dot com, but you can
Speaker 1: go to Twitter and Instagram at doctor Umar Johnson, Facebook,
Speaker 1: doctor Umar E. Fatunde and TikTok Prince of Pan Africanism.
Speaker 1: Click on the bio, click on my link tree and
Speaker 1: subscribe to the mailing list. I'm going to start sending
Speaker 1: out once a month updates because not everybody on social
Speaker 1: media then I get suspended for whatever reasons episode occasionally
Speaker 1: from going live, so this way I can stay in
Speaker 1: touch with them. One of the things I'm going to
Speaker 1: be doing before the election is I'm going to put
Speaker 1: together the Bishop Turner National Independent Black Political Movement. I
Speaker 1: want to bring all young black voters under the age
Speaker 1: of thirty together, try to get a couple million of
Speaker 1: us enough to make some noise, and we're going to
Speaker 1: demand a meeting with both nominees from both major parties.
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna sit down with Trump, sit down
Speaker 1: with Biden. If you don't come and have a conversation
Speaker 1: with us, we're not giving anybody. I'll vote the Black
Speaker 1: vote only matters if it gets organized. If anybody needs
Speaker 1: to reach me consultation with your children mental health evaluation review,
Speaker 1: you could text me direct. The number been public for
Speaker 1: nineteen years. Two one five nine eight nine nine eight
Speaker 1: five eight. That's two one five nine eight nine nine
Speaker 1: eight five eight. This Sunday, coming Sunday, July fourteenth, I
Speaker 1: believe it is okay. From ten to six, there is
Speaker 1: a free black book giveaway. Bring your children. They're giving
Speaker 1: out free books for children. Source of Knowledge Bookstore, eight
Speaker 1: six seven Broad Street, Newark, New Jersey. Source of Knowledge Bookstore,
Speaker 1: Sunday July fourteenth, ten to six. I will be given
Speaker 1: it's outdoors on the street, vendors food, The whole thing
Speaker 1: is free. I will be given a talk to parents
Speaker 1: on navigating the special education to prison pipeline, navigating the
Speaker 1: ADHD to psychiatric medication of pipeline. So it's going to
Speaker 1: be a free talk. If you need help for your children,
Speaker 1: bring your psychological evaluations, bring your IEPs, bring your behavior plans.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a free review at the Social
Speaker 1: Knowledge Bookstore in Newark. This coming Sunday, ten and six.
Speaker 1: I speak at two three quick points for our parents
Speaker 1: number one. The younger your child is, the less likely
Speaker 1: you should be getting them evaluated. The younger the child, Charlemagne,
Speaker 1: the more likely we may misdiagnose. Three years old is
Speaker 1: too young for autism evaluation. Four years old is too
Speaker 1: young for EIGHTYHD. Five years old is too young for
Speaker 1: reading disability. The younger the child, the less items we
Speaker 1: can ask them anyway because they're so young, so you
Speaker 1: don't get a good read. I need Black parents to
Speaker 1: slow down. In my Afro Latino parents, slow down. Stop
Speaker 1: getting your children evaluated so quickly. The school wants them
Speaker 1: tested quickly, envying Charlemagne. Why because special LED begins at
Speaker 1: age three, which means they can start getting the money
Speaker 1: at age three. Special LED is age three to twenty one.
Speaker 1: So when your child goes to preschool and they not
Speaker 1: talking too good and not walking through good, first thing
Speaker 1: they want to do is get it eval Slow down,
Speaker 1: give my child a chance to show me what he
Speaker 1: can do. Because if you go looking for an evaluation,
Speaker 1: you're going to get a diagnosis, because that's how they
Speaker 1: get paid by giving out the diagnosis. Notori's big said,
Speaker 1: what more money more problems? Well, in the world of
Speaker 1: mental health, more problems more money, so slow down on
Speaker 1: the eval Number two, do not get your child evaluated
Speaker 1: for ADHD, conduct disorder, odd emotional disturbance, or intermittent explosive disorder.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again, if you're black, do not
Speaker 1: get your child evaluated for ADHD, conduct disorder, emotional disturbance,
Speaker 1: intermittent explosive disorder because it only leads to what medication.
Speaker 1: America has no answer for a black or Afro Latino
Speaker 1: kid die. You know, with one of them syndromes, They're
Speaker 1: going to put them on drugs. And if you decide
Speaker 1: to discontinue the medication, child protective services will be called
Speaker 1: and they will confiscate your children. It's called medical neglect
Speaker 1: and it's one of the fastest reasons Black parents are
Speaker 1: losing their children to a foster care. If you don't
Speaker 1: plan to drug them up, and you shouldn't want to anyway,
Speaker 1: do not get him evaluated. If you think they too hyper.
Speaker 1: Go to the health store. There's all kind of herbal
Speaker 1: concoctions you could put under the tongue. There's a product
Speaker 1: called Calm Child. There's a product called b Colm. There's
Speaker 1: a product called Melissa Supreme where they take herbs that
Speaker 1: calm down the central nervous system. But guess what, the
Speaker 1: herbs are not even gonna work if he's a regular, normal,
Speaker 1: healthy boy and you're not giving him enough opportunity to
Speaker 1: release his natural testosterone. A big problem with all of
Speaker 1: this is boys need to move around. In fact, the
Speaker 1: research even shows boys learn better envying Charlotte Mane when
Speaker 1: they move. So why they still sitting still for eight
Speaker 1: hours when the research said, the neuroscience says boys learn
Speaker 1: better when they move because the teachers the Caucasian nation,
Speaker 1: the teachers that run to school, they don't want to
Speaker 1: move them. They want to sit in that chair because
Speaker 1: it makes their job easier. So a lot of times
Speaker 1: this is not an ADHD problem. It's a ain't no
Speaker 1: daddy at home disorder problem. It's an artificial diet and
Speaker 1: home disorder problem. Okay, it is a eight. It's an
Speaker 1: attachment disruption due to home life dysfunction problem as well.
Speaker 1: That's number two third in my final one. If you
Speaker 1: don't understand the paperwork called me, parents are signing off
Speaker 1: on evaluations they didn't read. They signing off on diagnosis
Speaker 1: they don't agree with. If you don't think your child
Speaker 1: is retired, why did you sign If you don't think
Speaker 1: they need special let? Why did you sign? Stop signing
Speaker 1: paperwork you don't agree with and you don't understand. That's
Speaker 1: what doctor Umar said. I will make time to look
Speaker 1: at your paperwork. Stop signing because they signing our kids
Speaker 1: away into full time special leg and they don't even
Speaker 1: realize it. And you got to go to these IEP meetings.
Speaker 1: If you're going to put your child in special let
Speaker 1: take care of your child. I got black parents put
Speaker 1: their kids in special LED, White ones too, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking about our community. Put they kids in special lets
Speaker 1: and never go to an IEP meeting for twelve years.
Speaker 1: Now he's about to graduate, Charla Man, guess what he
Speaker 1: can't read? And now you're upset at the school district.
Speaker 1: He can't read how many IEP meetings you went to
Speaker 1: since you put him in special let. First of all,
Speaker 1: he should have never been in special LED in the
Speaker 1: first grade because he's too young for special LED. But
Speaker 1: if you're going to do it, at least look out
Speaker 1: for the child. We got to do a better job
Speaker 1: of protecting our kids from the special education to prison pipeline.
Speaker 1: Because when I go speak speak in these jails, and
Speaker 1: I speak regularly in the prisons. Always asks it. It makes
Speaker 1: the raise your hand. How many of you was in
Speaker 1: special LED? Damn that every hand go up black, white, brown,
Speaker 1: yellow and white. Every hand goes up just about you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. Special LED causes more problems than
Speaker 1: it solved. Most of our kids just need a tutor
Speaker 1: to that point. How many of our kids are reading books?
Speaker 1: This summer? Honey? Of our kids are going to the
Speaker 1: black bookstores? This summer honey of our kids are being
Speaker 1: taken to the public library to smer to read something.
Speaker 1: Most of them are not. They own this right here.
Speaker 1: This is destroying academic excellence in the black community. This
Speaker 1: and for my black fathers out there. I know you're
Speaker 1: someone want to be a basketball player. I know you
Speaker 1: wanted to be a football player. But if he can't
Speaker 1: read on grade level, what is he on an aau?
Speaker 1: If he can't count on great level, what is he
Speaker 1: doing in the summer league? You you mean you care
Speaker 1: more about your son being a good football player, the
Speaker 1: basketball player, than in the productive adult. Half the black
Speaker 1: boys in America in fourth grade can't read on the
Speaker 1: gray level. Half the Black boys in America in the
Speaker 1: eighth grade can't count on their gray level, but yet
Speaker 1: we pushing football. This should be no video game in
Speaker 1: your house, no cell phone in your house, and nobody
Speaker 1: should be in no summer league if they can't read
Speaker 1: and count on gray level. We got to get back
Speaker 1: to black excellence.
Speaker 2: There you have it, doctor umar Umar Johnson, appreciate you
Speaker 2: for joining us. And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club