WEBVTT - Lone Star w/ an All Star Finalist

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<v Speaker 1>What's up everyone on Tory Deal And I'm Anissa Ferreira

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<v Speaker 1>and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the final episode, Asa.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wish there were just twenty more episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I love All Stars for I am so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>jump into this episode with you, Tori, because it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good one. Lot of twists and turns.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they left us off on that crazy cliffhanger

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<v Speaker 2>last week we had to figure out if Derek was

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<v Speaker 2>going home or if Laurel was, And obviously Derek ends

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<v Speaker 2>up going home, and here we are back in this final.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the first person to go. But how crazy is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what a twist that in this final you get

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<v Speaker 2>to give your star away once you leave the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I just would have been in there collecting stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you a lot of really pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really pays to have a social game and

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<v Speaker 1>try and create friendships. I think that that really does

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<v Speaker 1>affect not only like your game, but like your time there,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's enjoy it, you know. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>also like lightens the mood helps with morale and you

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<v Speaker 1>need it because these finals are daunting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, And I even think it was nice, like

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<v Speaker 2>before they even really got into the episode and started

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<v Speaker 2>going through the rest of the challenges, like they showcased

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<v Speaker 2>how all of these players use different strategies to make

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<v Speaker 2>it to the final. You know, you had people who

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<v Speaker 2>went into eliminations, you had people who were given stars

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<v Speaker 2>based on friendships and played a low political game. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, like there's always this talk in the

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<v Speaker 2>challenge community of like, oh, this person isn't deserving of

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<v Speaker 2>getting there because they, like you know, roade coattails to

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<v Speaker 2>get to the final, But all of these gameplays are

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<v Speaker 2>like acceptable because if it gets you to the end,

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<v Speaker 2>it gets you to the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, isn't that the point? Yeah, I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>you got to do. Listen, I'll do some strange shit

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<v Speaker 1>for a star. I mean, looking at this final, it's strange,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it is. It is one of the different

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<v Speaker 1>if we could look at it as it's progressing, we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the games. I mean, I'm only expecting there to

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<v Speaker 1>be more of these kinds of games where anyone, like you,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know who's gonna win this.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you telling me that spicy Foot wasn't a normal

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<v Speaker 2>thing to see in the final.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like who came up with that, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If you're out there, Spicy Foot, we

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<v Speaker 1>support you, just one foot spicy, not both, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I think that part of the challenge was really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting though, because people were dying. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 2>like they were just getting wopped in the face of

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<v Speaker 2>these peppers and then Leroy drops his on the floor

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<v Speaker 2>and falls to their.

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<v Speaker 1>Line right, which I thought was amazing because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>by any means necessary, yeah, oh, by any means necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>I really thought Steve was gonna take this one, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when he's like, I grew up eating like this is nothing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember if you ever eat anything hot, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you don't get fed in a final, it just

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<v Speaker 1>sits there and like, spicy stuff is not fun on

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<v Speaker 1>an empty stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely not. And obviously like that gave a huge

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<v Speaker 2>advantage to Nicole when she won that. It lowered her

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<v Speaker 2>a line in the next Balance for Survival challenge, which

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<v Speaker 2>was also just bizarre. They were playing like marionettes with

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<v Speaker 2>like cherry juice. It's like, who, yeah, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what that was.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it was tart cherry juice, because that's really

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<v Speaker 1>good for soreness. However, it could have been like food coloring,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just so it looked like kids with

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<v Speaker 1>kool aid on it. It looked so ridiculous. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love Veronica because it just takes me back to like

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<v Speaker 1>the plank thing, Like she's just this tiny little thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and hers was just going everywhere, Yeah, like everywhere she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want it to go. And then it was like

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<v Speaker 1>Laurel had been doing this in her backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Laurel was a pro. It was just like easy

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<v Speaker 2>for her. She was like, hah, I got everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>was struggling and this was an elimination one. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was just really intense and like I'm sure stress was

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<v Speaker 2>at an all time high, and for it to end

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<v Speaker 2>up with Veronica and Leroy at the very end, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, damn, I was not expecting that. Like this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those games where you just never know

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna thrive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, all you need is one Marionette to

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<v Speaker 1>the face in the right direction and you hear Laurel

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<v Speaker 1>like lipstop Laurel's commentary trying to coach Veronica to a

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<v Speaker 1>win there, So it was hilarious, Like how do you

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<v Speaker 1>coach somebody to do any of that, but good on

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<v Speaker 1>her for the support. You can see that. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they really went into their friendship, but

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<v Speaker 1>there definitely was a friendship made. You can see how

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<v Speaker 1>they're cheering and they're supportive of one another.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love that. You know, when Leroy does lose unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>the joy that he has to see his kid and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he just took it with such grace.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we just a graceful dude. So yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was nice to see that. And then also nice of

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<v Speaker 1>him to like a nod to Steve, like, I see you,

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<v Speaker 1>I recognize you. We might not be the best of

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<v Speaker 1>friends basically, but you went in a million eliminations. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you here you go? Yes, Yeah, I was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was really cool too. I really did.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't going to have gone anywhere exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really wasn't expecting it. And then the next game,

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<v Speaker 2>because these games just keep getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Hose hose ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who came up with any of this.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, let's put the firefighting aspect into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's also put balls in, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's put TJ in a mustache let's put tj in

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<v Speaker 2>a mustache in an anchor Like, what was he doing?

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<v Speaker 2>He was?

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<v Speaker 1>He was like Anchorman, he stole one of your mustaches.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like it back.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like that was my mustache.

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<v Speaker 1>I think production was like, Yo, how do we make

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<v Speaker 1>him look ridiculous? Ah, let's get one of those mustaches,

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<v Speaker 1>toy where just because it's Tuesday, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>But he crushed it. He did.

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<v Speaker 1>I was cracking. I mean, I love how interactive he's

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<v Speaker 1>been this season so good, and I really love this

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<v Speaker 1>side of him because he's always wanted to like play

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Now he gets to be like an interactive

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<v Speaker 1>more of an interactive part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Define And it's interesting because like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these games, they they don't seem so intense, but they

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<v Speaker 2>take a lot of attention and accuracy. But now we're

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<v Speaker 2>really starting to get them heated up, like we watched

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole go into it with Steve and everyone's starting to fight,

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<v Speaker 2>and like in hose Ball, I think we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get a shift in the final the energy starts to

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<v Speaker 2>get a little bit more daunting because now they're going

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<v Speaker 2>into a double elimination immediately after this, and Ace and

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Maria have the upper hand and they get to

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<v Speaker 2>go into this bluff night checkpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved the bluff Night. I thought that was so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It was spooky. Yeah, it was like all of these

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<v Speaker 1>like dungeon rooms, but like pick your poison. However, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>piss somebody off enough like Laurel and she's beaten nails into.

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<v Speaker 2>A thing, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>So it it was I think really hard to gauge

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<v Speaker 1>except for the ball one, but between like the stars

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<v Speaker 1>and the nail, Like, I think the balls where you

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<v Speaker 1>would mess somebody up. And I think Lara didn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>hindsight's twenty twenty. I don't think she expected the balls

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<v Speaker 1>to be harder than the nails. Yeah, so she tried

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<v Speaker 1>to set Laurel up because you know, that is her

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<v Speaker 1>competition in this right, And if you're gonna pace yourself

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody, you pace them with somebody who's great. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you tried f them. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>get what she was trying to do. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>done the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, the tensions at an all time high,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and then they obviously Nicole and Veronica, even

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<v Speaker 2>though Laurel went last, she hammered down those nails so quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>and she stays in the game, and Nicole and Veronica

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<v Speaker 2>give their stars to Laurel, and this is definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>turning point in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, I feel like the queer alliance had already formed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, and I'm here for it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love women supporting women, and I love that lie

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<v Speaker 1>like they both gave it to her, Like if anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take this, we want you to have a really

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<v Speaker 1>good shot. Yeah, I mean what that must feel so

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<v Speaker 1>nice because we know Laurel, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's very like very She's very Laurel if you

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<v Speaker 1>know her, so like to see her branch out and

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<v Speaker 1>to see how like these friendships and her opening up

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<v Speaker 1>is benefiting her is a really nice shift for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, to see like a softer side. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Laurel's soft, you know what I'm saying. She's like a

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<v Speaker 1>competitor and she's strong, and it's like to see that

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<v Speaker 1>more vulnerable side of hers really sweet. I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're able to see it. Yeah, same, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though we didn't see it when they were sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>They were sleeping on the Overnight Challenge, she was her

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<v Speaker 2>room was on one side, and then Steve asen Carr.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's so Laurel put a shirt over her head.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>She probably loved that sleep. I'm so mad we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get like a whole interview from that. Yeah, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>the bed Laurel's has been looking for for on Challenges

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<v Speaker 1>for probably the last four seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, oh Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Wants to be in a hammock away from everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So they wake up the next day and we

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<v Speaker 2>start this loop portion, which looks absolutely miserable. I have

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<v Speaker 2>no interest in doing it. I've done loops before in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. It's always yucky, and this one was extremely lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>There was drink it, connect it, rocket, build it, and

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<v Speaker 2>swing it, and basically, if you had a star, you

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<v Speaker 2>could place a star on one of the games so

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<v Speaker 2>that you didn't have to compete in that specific checkpoint. Anissa,

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<v Speaker 2>what were your thoughts on this?

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it. I think that it would have been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. I mean, I wouldn't have eaten the cockroach,

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<v Speaker 1>so bye bye. Hey. I just stick my head on

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things once, and those cockroaches are they're friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't like them. You know, I love a puzzle.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been a lot of stacking lately. We see

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<v Speaker 1>it on thirty nine, we see it here. We've definitely

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<v Speaker 1>see vertical puzzles before. I'm really concerned about the throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the rings onto a hook though. I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>one's going to trip people up, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>puzzle may trip people up a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Go Overall, it was a really interesting combination of games,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just clear that if you had more

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<v Speaker 2>stars in this of the final, it was definitely to

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<v Speaker 2>your advantage, and that helped Laurel secure the bag. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Laurel one first place, absolutely dominated this final and she

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<v Speaker 2>made friends along the way and it was beautiful to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's in shout out to all the people that

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<v Speaker 1>ever said, oh my god, you make too many friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just about me, but anybody who's made a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of friends. This was the season to do it. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you better get fucking friendly. Yeah you better, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what that could be the difference between you winning

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge. I knew going home for sure, So starpying,

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<v Speaker 1>nicety and ice making friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, and second place, against all odds, this person had

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<v Speaker 2>to go into two eliminations. This season, they had one

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<v Speaker 2>star in the final, Carl Maria pulls up that second

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<v Speaker 2>place position and like, I think this, regardless of her

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<v Speaker 2>not getting first place, it definitely solidifies her as one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best competitors. And all season people were saying

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<v Speaker 2>Laurel and Carr are the ones to be and look,

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<v Speaker 2>they're placing number one and two. You know what a

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<v Speaker 2>showdown honestly, And I'm so excited that we get to

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<v Speaker 2>have Cara on this podcast because she did have such

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<v Speaker 2>a dominating season. So we are not going to have

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<v Speaker 2>Laurel on this episode, but we will have Cara on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that having Kara on here, because she had

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<v Speaker 1>some hard times and some friendship disturbances and some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she was in a lot of stuff this season, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be nice to hear her side and how she

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<v Speaker 1>felt about, you know, doing this final and coming back

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<v Speaker 1>to the challenge after all this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally agree, And it would also be nice

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<v Speaker 2>to have Ace on here. But rumor has it he

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<v Speaker 2>started a podcast with some cockroaches, So if we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to went into the oh, I'm sure we can go

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<v Speaker 2>find it out. But let's get into the all star

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<v Speaker 2>and no Star of this episode, and then let's get

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<v Speaker 2>right into that interview, and he said, who do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to give your.

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<v Speaker 1>All star to? I mean, I'm going to give it

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<v Speaker 1>to Laurel. She played super smart with the star loop

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<v Speaker 1>and she also made friends and that really paid off.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely I have to give it to her, you know, Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, And in the nature of not giving the

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<v Speaker 2>person the same star, I am going to give mine

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<v Speaker 2>to Kara Marie because she just had such a hard journey.

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<v Speaker 1>This has grown so much. I love all of this growth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I mean she's had a really hard journey

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<v Speaker 2>in this game and she really showed up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>she deserves the star, to say the least, a star

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<v Speaker 2>from us. Yeah, who do you think? It's the no

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<v Speaker 2>star of the episode?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Poor Ace? Well, actually, no, Steve. God there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Steve made a crucial mistake for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I don't want to give him a no

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<v Speaker 1>star because it makes me feel bad because anyone could

0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.800
<v Speaker 1>have made that mistake. Yeah, however, I think that cost

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<v Speaker 1>him his chance at winning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I also Steve, just to lighten the load a

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<v Speaker 2>bit or share the no star that sad feeling. The cockroaches, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the cockroaches, Yeah, I think the cockroaches. Like I would

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<v Speaker 2>also give a special honorable mention to Ace for scooping

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<v Speaker 2>up the cockroaches at the end and setting them free.

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<v Speaker 2>That was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I know he gets a star for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give stars out for so many things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because no one's there's really.

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<v Speaker 1>No no star, Like all these people worked really hard

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<v Speaker 1>this season. Yeah, and you know, I'm proud. I'm proud

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I love all stars for and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>we got to be a part of it from this

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<v Speaker 1>side of the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I think that this episode of the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be one of the most popular yet

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<v Speaker 2>because car Maria is coming on to talk to us

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<v Speaker 2>about this incredible season and maybe she didn't win it,

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<v Speaker 2>but she definitely deserves a trophy for what she put

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<v Speaker 2>up with and how much she conquered. So stay tuned, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>because we have carl Maria coming on the podcast right

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<v Speaker 2>after this. Okay, Anissa, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Get back to the show, all right, folks. This woman

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<v Speaker 1>you have not seen on your screens for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that her return was highly anticipated, and

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<v Speaker 1>she did not disappoint. Her first show was Fresh Meat Too.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a two time Challenge champion. Please welcome Lar

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<v Speaker 1>Maria three times three times.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm counting pro I'm counting pros versus champion. I did

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<v Speaker 3>have to face pro athletes, so I'm going to count that.

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<v Speaker 3>People are counting All stars. I'm counting pros can count that.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen as you should. I just I feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>should count everything I do. If we were on a show,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it counts.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what point I'm at. So you're finally back. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know how many years has it been.

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<v Speaker 3>That would require math, So I'll pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we'll skip. Toy's not going to answer it either,

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<v Speaker 1>because too it's not good at math. What made you

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<v Speaker 1>come back? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>There was just way too many people rooting for me

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<v Speaker 3>to come back. The fans were very loud, not spoken,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm very thankful for them. And with that break

0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.360
<v Speaker 3>came being in a better mental space. So I figured

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<v Speaker 3>it was time. Plus with the All Stars as an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 3>and with it being more old school, it was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of good to put my toes back in the water.

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<v Speaker 3>With that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see the break, how great it was for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is Scott to be such a great

0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.760
<v Speaker 2>season for you. You crushed two eliminations, and you went up

0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.320
<v Speaker 2>against really incredible competitors and you come in second place.

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<v Speaker 2>And before we even go through the whole entire season

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<v Speaker 2>of how you played it well, I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>really clear that, like, you came back from a big

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<v Speaker 2>break and you showed the fuck up. But I want

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<v Speaker 2>to know, before you even got that call, or right

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<v Speaker 2>when you got that call, was it there like hesitation

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<v Speaker 2>in the yes to come back or was it like

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<v Speaker 2>a full body yes, it's time to go back and

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<v Speaker 2>show what I got.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely struggle with a lot of trauma and an

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<v Speaker 3>anxiety with my past, So even though I was excited

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<v Speaker 3>for the opportunity, I was definitely hesitant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that's fair. I think that's understandable. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think because we're in like a pressure cooker,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can get the hesitation totally. So you've done

0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the flagship show, we've all competed together. I've done a

0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.440
<v Speaker 1>season of All Stars. I thought it was incredible. What

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<v Speaker 1>were your expectations of All Stars and how how did

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<v Speaker 1>you think it was different than the flagship?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have any expectations. I was just hoping that

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<v Speaker 3>it was going to be more fun, and I was right.

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<v Speaker 3>Production treated us really really well, really really well, which

0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.560
<v Speaker 3>was incredible. So I'm very thankful for the way production

0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.720
<v Speaker 3>handled all of us. And the games were less how

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<v Speaker 3>can we kill you today? And more how can we

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<v Speaker 3>bring the nostalgia in fun back for the viewers? And

0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.920
<v Speaker 3>it just gave a very old school nostalgic, like very

0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.880
<v Speaker 3>fun vibe as far as just the you know, the

0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.320
<v Speaker 3>shell of the show, like the challenges and whatnot were

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<v Speaker 3>just really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so like, how did it compare appearing as

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<v Speaker 2>a champion on Season thirty nine versus appearing in All Stars.

0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.480
<v Speaker 3>I actually won my eliminations on All Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just like like in terms of your feeling

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<v Speaker 2>about arriving.

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<v Speaker 3>There, arriving for thirty nine was more like no, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like no price. Sure, it was just more fun

0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.480
<v Speaker 3>because I wasn't invested in the game, you know, because

0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.879
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't my game, whereas my mentality on All Stars

0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.359
<v Speaker 3>was survival. So when I'm in, when I'm put in

0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:14.160
<v Speaker 3>a corner, I fucking survive when I'm given a more fun,

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:19.920
<v Speaker 3>easy path. I don't exactly, so I definitely perform better

0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.719
<v Speaker 3>when the odds are not in my favor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I totally understand that. So we see, especially in

0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this final, like relationships are really important and we definitely

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<v Speaker 1>see you get close to Steve Ace. Did you speak

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<v Speaker 1>to either one of those where you did you know

0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.320
<v Speaker 1>them before this challenge or did you come on to

0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.360
<v Speaker 1>All Stars and you guys just bonded.

0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.439
<v Speaker 3>I came on too All Stars with no alliances. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't tell anybody I was coming on because I was

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<v Speaker 3>really really nervous. I was really anxious. I put a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of pressure on myself to do well, and I

0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.879
<v Speaker 3>was I was really nervous. I was. I had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of anxiety going into the season. I'll be honest

0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.600
<v Speaker 3>and just for my own self, because like I said,

0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.560
<v Speaker 3>I put a lot of pressure on myself to perform well.

0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:07.000
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't pregame or you know, talk game before

0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.879
<v Speaker 3>I left with anybody. I kind of wanted everybody to

0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.119
<v Speaker 3>be surprised when I showed up at the airport. I

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.480
<v Speaker 3>didn't even want any fans to think I was coming on,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I wanted to just show up and see who

0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.480
<v Speaker 3>was there and deal with it when I got there.

0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.920
<v Speaker 3>And in the past, as far as Steve, I think

0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 3>I went to one comedy show that he was at

0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.359
<v Speaker 3>that with Paulie, Like Paulie was doing a stand up

0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.359
<v Speaker 3>comedy thing and Steve was there, so I briefly have

0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.800
<v Speaker 3>met him in the past, like very briefly in passing.

0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Ace was like a million quadrillion years ago, like I

0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.720
<v Speaker 3>had stopped by his bar once, so like I've I

0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.960
<v Speaker 3>vaguely remembered Ace. And then the other one was Jay,

0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and I don't think I ever met Jay. So Ace,

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<v Speaker 3>Jay and Steve ended up being very beautiful, unexpected wonderful

0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.679
<v Speaker 3>surprises and souls to have by my side that I

0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.640
<v Speaker 3>ended up just organically feeling safe and comfortable with. When

0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.400
<v Speaker 3>I first showed up at the airport, I saw Brandon Lee.

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<v Speaker 3>The first people I saw that I was so excited

0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.600
<v Speaker 3>to see more than anything in the whole world, was

0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Leroy and Cam. I didn't had any idea that

0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Cam was going to be on it, and I was

0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.600
<v Speaker 3>just so excited because I always I put Cam and

0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Leroy on a pedestal. I root for them. I was

0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.720
<v Speaker 3>so excited to see Brandon because that was like my

0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.760
<v Speaker 3>fresh meat buddy, like the you know, they nobody can

0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.720
<v Speaker 3>totally understand the experience of fresh meat and the tent

0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.639
<v Speaker 3>that we were in in Canada, you know, like me

0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.000
<v Speaker 3>and Brandon was the first person that I was drawn

0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.879
<v Speaker 3>to that. I just loved his energy, I loved his being.

0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I love Brandon. So I was very excited to see

0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 3>all of those people, and then honestly even excited to

0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 3>see you know, Rachel as a throwback. I was like,

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.679
<v Speaker 3>that's so exciting. I'm like, she's a legend. And then

0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh fuck. I was like Nicole and Laurel,

0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, damn it, I'm screwed because I knew for

0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.920
<v Speaker 3>a fact. I'm like, they're going to bond over hating me.

0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.200
<v Speaker 3>So then that's going to bring them together, no matter

0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 3>how bad their breakup is or what they were doing

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.400
<v Speaker 3>with they're going to get together because you know, they

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.200
<v Speaker 3>have me in common, I guess. And I called that

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.520
<v Speaker 3>And then nah, I was excited to see Jasmine. I

0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.199
<v Speaker 3>hadn't seen her since I don't even remember, but I

0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.119
<v Speaker 3>always kind of root for her because she's like this

0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 3>little underdog, you know, and so I always kind of

0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 3>root for her to do well, and that all happened

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.240
<v Speaker 3>to blow up in my face.

0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 2>It is really interesting, it happened a lot for you,

0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Like there was a lot of moments in this game

0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.040
<v Speaker 2>where alliances, you know, it didn't it didn't work out

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.240
<v Speaker 2>for one way or for another. I'm like really curious

0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.440
<v Speaker 2>about the Kim and Leroy one in terms of where

0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.840
<v Speaker 2>it went wrong in your eyes, considering you know, I've

0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:37.480
<v Speaker 2>played games with all of you guys together, and I

0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.320
<v Speaker 2>know how close you guys were, and so it was

0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.320
<v Speaker 2>just such an incredible, like awful thing to watch in

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.120
<v Speaker 2>a way, because I was like, wow, like it's this

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 2>game will really split you up. But from your side

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.879
<v Speaker 2>of you, where do you think you and Kim and

0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Leroy really found that divide.

0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I think people are not necessarily against me. I think

0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.560
<v Speaker 3>they're more for themselves. And I think Kim and Leroy

0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.639
<v Speaker 3>found themselves in a war. They didn't know I was

0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:01.399
<v Speaker 3>going to be the first of all, so they had

0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.280
<v Speaker 3>probably already made their plans and arrangements without factoring me in.

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.199
<v Speaker 3>But I think they're in a more desperate situation this

0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.119
<v Speaker 3>go around. Like Cam, you know, they have a baby

0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.720
<v Speaker 3>at home, they're fighting for their family, So I can't

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 3>hate the way things happened, but it was definitely hurtful.

0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.320
<v Speaker 3>They showed their hand really early, but I think with

0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 3>it it was more of the gas lighting and the

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:29.200
<v Speaker 3>mob mentality behind. It's like in some points they would say,

0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 3>we're coming after you because you're the strongest, and we

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:32.479
<v Speaker 3>just want you gone because we think you're the strongest.

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, while Laurel, you know, is right there, and

0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 3>I feel like there was just kind of sort of

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 3>a an echo chamber, really mob who kind of gas

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 3>lit me to justify themselves on how awful they were

0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 3>being really behind the scenes. So it was very hurtful

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:51.240
<v Speaker 3>to watch because I've definitely built up my armor and

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.560
<v Speaker 3>it's gotten harder and harder over all these years, and

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.840
<v Speaker 3>when I give my loyalty to someone, it's to the bone.

0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 3>So I can't relate to the way that Cam and

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Leroy played against me me, especially when they could have

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.520
<v Speaker 3>used me till the end, because that's I would never

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.160
<v Speaker 3>do that to them. But again, I don't have a kid.

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.679
<v Speaker 3>Maybe things are changed when you have a family, but

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 3>I always did raise Cam and Lee ren a pedestal

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 3>her going. She kind of went full throttle assassination on me,

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 3>which I think is a really rather extreme response to

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 3>me not voting in Rachel because her problem was with

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if this is where she's trying to say everything, like,

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.399
<v Speaker 3>how strong could our friendship have been? I guess if

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 3>all it took was me not voting in Rachel when

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.439
<v Speaker 3>her problem was with Ayana, I voted in Ayana. I

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 3>told Cam ahead of time that I was not going

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 3>to put Rachel in, so I feel like I'm allowed

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 3>to have maybe one person else besides you know, Cam

0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:50.399
<v Speaker 3>having apparently the entire house I had Rachel, which I

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.719
<v Speaker 3>had made a deal which I was not hiding from Cam,

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:57.880
<v Speaker 3>and then it didn't change the outcome. Cam knew going

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.199
<v Speaker 3>into that deliberation that she always had the votes to

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:05.040
<v Speaker 3>get exactly the matchup that she wanted, and she knew

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 3>that I was not going to say Rachel's name, so

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 3>she said she was fine with that because she was

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 3>still going to get the outcome she wanted. I stand

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:17.639
<v Speaker 3>by my word, but apparently she wanted me to ruin

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 3>my own game for something she was always going to get,

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 3>and then went on like a hell bent bender partnering

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 3>up with my rival Laurel to just come at me

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.199
<v Speaker 3>through every aspect possible. It just it came off to

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 3>me a little entitled. You were always going to get

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 3>what you wanted regardless. I thought it was a bizarre

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 3>overreaction and then kind of just the gas lighting after

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.199
<v Speaker 3>it was just it was very strange to me. It

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 3>just made me very uncomfortable because, like I said, I

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.440
<v Speaker 3>always put Lee, Roy and Cam on a pedestal, like

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 3>and I always root for them and I would never

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 3>do to them what they.

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Did to me.

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 3>And so it was very hurtful over me not saying

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Rachel's name in a deliberation when I told Kim I

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 3>wasn't going to say her name, and she was cool

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 3>with it beforehand, you know what I mean. It's just

0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 3>weird overreaction.

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.640
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, you have to play your game and

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the game at the same time. It's like I guess

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.919
<v Speaker 1>in friendships, like shit gets a little like blurry, like

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.199
<v Speaker 1>you need to I feel like your friends should just

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>respect the fact that, like your vote's not going to

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 1>affect them, but you also have to play for yourself,

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 1>like not everyone can play for everyone else, so you

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 1>never get to the final Yeah, you know, if that

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you end up going home.

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 3>It just kind of came off like she wanted me

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 3>to sabotage my own game for her to get what

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.440
<v Speaker 3>she was getting. Anyways, regardless, like have you guys spoken

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:36.240
<v Speaker 3>since you know what's funny is after our elimination, she

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 3>came to me and said, hey, you know I want

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 3>you or lead right to win. I told Lee write

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 3>a look out for you. You've got to look out

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 3>for him, and I was like, Caim, I always got you,

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 3>like I still always love you guys, Like I know

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 3>you're coming at me in the game, whatever reason you're

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:48.640
<v Speaker 3>trying to say it's because you think I'm the best competitor,

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 3>or because of a vote whatever, Okay, you know, but

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I'll always support you guys. And that's how I left

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 3>it with her. Leroy, I would have given my star too,

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 3>That's what I made up. I know, I made friends,

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, like Ace J and Steve were kind of

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 3>my sanctuary, my safety sanctuary. But you know, in the

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 3>final I was always going to get my start to

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Leroy just to show how much I, you know, my

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 3>care for them, but no, they never They kind of

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 3>reached out through Paulie, but after watching the entire season.

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 3>I see why Cam never personally reached out. I you know,

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:25.679
<v Speaker 3>she was it was pretty it was pretty brutal to

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 3>watch and very hurtful. So maybe she's you know, knows

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 3>how she what she did and how she made me feel.

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:33.919
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 3>It's just hurtful. I'm hurt, So that's all that's understandable.

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 3>It is.

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I do think that the majority of the cast saw

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you as a threat, even over Laurel. I mean, do

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you think that that was an oversight on their part?

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 3>No, I think they all knew Laurel was the biggest threat,

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 3>but I think I was just the easiest target. It

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 3>was easier for themterrestic It was easier for that, like

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 3>do you want to piss off Laurel? You know, it

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 3>was easier for them to isolate and kick me down

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 3>and then to try that with Laurel. Laurel's intimidating.

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean you definitely clapped back though on certain things

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>with Nicole, like you weren't backing down shit.

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 3>No, so I'm not as intimidating as Laurel. Let's let's

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.120
<v Speaker 3>be real. It's easier to pile up on me than

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 3>it is to try to like comment, Laurel, that's just

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 3>the way it's been. And I think that's the same

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 3>reason they kept voting in Steve, like you're gonna would

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Steve do wrong? Right, He's he's easy.

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>He well, once you keep voting one person in, you

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>keep a lot of people just keep voting the same

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 1>person in again and again.

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like he I thought Steve was a great guy

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 3>anytime people would try to make fun of him, like

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 3>because he was eccentric. He you know, had his own

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 3>little weird quirks. He'd be in the backyard digging with

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 3>a spoon, making Bulgarian bags, and he had like love

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 3>protect Steve to the death because it's almost like I

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 3>saw myself and him like him being like the weird

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 3>little loaner that would like but you could talk to him.

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 3>You could say, uh, water bottle and he'll tell you

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 3>a story about a water bottle. You could say tree,

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 3>and like he'll tell you this whole story that happened

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 3>to him with a treat, Like he is the most

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.360
<v Speaker 3>interesting dude. And there was actually a lot of people

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 3>in the house that were like anytime he talked, they'd

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 3>like roll his eyes or they were kind of doing

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 3>the same shit to him, and I think it was

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of just a way to make it easier for

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 3>them to vote on him. They didn't give him a

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 3>break at all. And I think really it wasn't about

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 3>me being the strongest girl in the house. I think

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 3>it was just I was a scapegoat and as was Steve.

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's almost something like, I don't know,

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 3>I heard this in a season one time. You know,

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 3>maybe I was just the perfect vessel to dump hate on.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe in terms of either picking you or

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Laurel to make the scapegoat. I definitely agree with you

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 2>that Laurel is just so intimidating it's terrifying to try

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>to make that the direction of votes. But do you

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 2>think that maybe the fact that you are the only

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 2>female that's ever won an individual challenge like that was

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 2>mentioned in people's interviews? But did you hear that being

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>talked about around the house And do you think that

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 2>that did carry some weight in the minds of the people.

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 3>I think I would like to be flattered to think so.

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 3>But I also think that Laurel has realistically beaten me

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 3>in everything. She's beaten me in eliminations multiple times, and

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 3>She does extraordinarily well on any challenge you give her.

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 3>It could be the most obscure, like a balanced challenge,

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 3>it could be a you know, knocking the stupid red

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 3>water thing spitting it into a hose. Like Laurel is

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 3>good at right and really shit like she is. She

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 3>is the goat. She just hasn't done as many as

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 3>I have. You know, like Laurel is, I don't know

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 3>where her weaknesses are. She is good at everything. I

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 3>just have to try really hard and I grind it out,

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. Like sometimes I get it done,

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 3>sometimes I don't. You've seen my track record in finals,

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. Like, I do my best and.

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of that's a lot of Laurel's just

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>yea different with different so you know, yeah, I feel

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the same. Yeah, she's she's really good at a lot

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>of ship that. Like they come up with these challenges

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, where the hell could they have and

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>then Laurel does it the first time the best. Yeah,

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how are you who did you find out?

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you practice? Did they give you a list of

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>ship before you showed up?

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Like she's built it.

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>But she just has that Yeah, it's like Jordan, like

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>they can have that knack to like do all of

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>these weird things that no one's ever done.

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she doesn't.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Even have to go to the gym. She'll fuck you

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 3>up mentally, physically, she will.

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Like she is. She is a very strong minded human.

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah she is.

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 2>She's more like a CT. Like I think she's more

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 2>CT she you know, because.

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 3>She is too, because I don't ever see her in alliances,

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>But she finds her way, I think because nobody wants

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 3>to fuck with her. I'll be honest. Yeah, Cet, same ship.

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Nobody wants to talk with them. They just let that

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 3>bear just stay in the corner and they're like, we'll.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Just barrel for you. We're just gonna leave that guy alone.

0:29:58.080 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Try to beat them in a final.

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>We'll just try.

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, They're like, you know, why do they let Seet

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>go to the final. I'm like, well, you didn't try

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>to do anything about it. Yeah, you know, like, yeah,

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>but he's a monster. You don't want to see him

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>in Tic tac toe.

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 3>No, no, nothing.

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, we have to take a quick break, but

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>we'll be right back after this.

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, toy, let's get back to the show.

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's get into this final, because it was very

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>different than finals we've seen before. There was themes called

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 2>like spicy Foot, like the water thing I was. I

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 2>was really confused by a lot of it, although very entertained.

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I think, going back to what you were saying, it

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>does have a nostalgic and fun aspect to it. The

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 2>fact that you guys were, you know, shooting paintball guns

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>on top of a moving car like's. It was a

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 2>vibe like it looked fun for the first day. But

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to know, car, You've done so many finals,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 2>how did this one compare to the other ones in

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 2>the past.

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:54.959
<v Speaker 3>War of the World's one was the hardest final I've

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 3>ever done. That looks followed by Rivals one with Laurel,

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 3>and you know you could tie that with War the

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>World too. Those were the hardest finals. And I've been

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 3>to a lot of finals, so I can definitely tell

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 3>you those were the hardest things I've ever done. This

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 3>was one of the most fun ones that I've ever done,

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 3>so you know, I was expecting death and true to

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.239
<v Speaker 3>the way the whole theme of the season was, it

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 3>was it was fun and it was therefore refreshing. It

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 3>was just really it was. It was refreshing, so I

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 3>enjoyed it for what it was.

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Once you knew about the star, things like how they

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>were going to come into play of like getting advantages

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>or like if you can, you know, give your start

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to somebody else or somebody can give How did you

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>think that was going to go for you?

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Not well, because even though I made it to the

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 3>end and I had, you know, an Ace and Steve

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 3>were there. You know, Ace was given his star from

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Steve multiple times. Steve had to fight for that thing

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 3>and he and he gave it to Ace. So if

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Ace were to leave early, it would only be right

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 3>for him to return that back to Steve for an advantage. Steve,

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 3>I just assumed because he had given the start at

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Ace so many times. Maybe I don't know for sure

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 3>what he would have done, but I assumed he was

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 3>going to give it to Ace, and then everybody else

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 3>was going to give it to each other, and then

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 3>I was, you know, in my mind, I had my

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 3>mind set on giving mine to h Leroy, and that

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 3>was kind of it.

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting how like relationships ended up playing out.

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I think you said it in your interview. You said

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 2>it in a kind of cheeky way. You're like, you know,

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I guess it pays to be friends with losers. And

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I did find it interesting, you know, because this really

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>did add a lot of value to the relationships that

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 2>you have in this game. Like I was kind of

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 2>blown away by that because obviously, now Laurel ends up

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>with so many stars, she goes into the last leg

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>of the final with four. I think that would have

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>probably been like, really difficult to process. I can imagine

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>what you were going through, especially knowing that you and

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Ace had just won that hoseball challenge and you really

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 2>set it up so that way you were going to

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>be able to go into the next leg of final,

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 2>hopefully eliminating Laurel, and turns out and actually, like you

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 2>know it, shot it fired back in your face.

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Laurel is a walking advantage like those stars needed,

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 3>do you know what I mean? She is the woman

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 3>to beat. As soon as I walked in to the

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 3>season of All Stars, I knew my only competition was Laurel.

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean Rachel, you know, Rachel's fantastic too, But as

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 3>soon as Rachel was gone, I was like, it's me

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 3>and Laurel. That's what it's gonna come down to. I

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 3>wasn't worried about the men. It was a strong woman

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 3>cast no offense to like my besties there, my two

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 3>guys that I ended up getting to the end with,

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 3>But I knew it was going to be between me

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 3>and Laurel, and it would have been really nice to

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 3>go into it evenly on that second day, but I

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 3>mean to be fair, stars and no stars. Laurel kind

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 3>of almost outperformed me in all the little mini challenges

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 3>too the day before, so I got to give her

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 3>credit there like she's you know, it was a weird final,

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not one of those cut and dry

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>like you know, start here and there. But you know,

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 3>I did what I could do to survive, and Laurel,

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 3>like I said, was friends with people that ended up losing,

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 3>which benefited her because then it was just me and

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 3>the only two people really besides Jay that had my

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 3>back all season, which was nice to be there at

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 3>the end with them, but those advantages were almost insurmountable.

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I was still hoping, like you know, I still I

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 3>would have never did the elimination with her, you know,

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.399
<v Speaker 3>with a broken hand. If I didn't think like It's

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 3>always in my heart that I can win, no matter

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 3>what disadvantages I have. It's always in me like, if

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 3>you don't think you should win, you shouldn't be there.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 3>And so even with her having those advantages, I was like,

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't that make it even better if she is an

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 3>advantage with advantages, if I can still come back from this,

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 3>And in my heart I was like, I can do it.

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 3>And I pushed really hard, and it's wild that I

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 3>was able to get as close to her as I did,

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 3>considering she got to skip three puzzles, you know what

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like, you know how the puzzles.

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Are, Yeah, get stuck there for forever. And we saw

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that with Ace. But it's it is nuts. I mean

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you did come back from like I mean you on

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the you on the scooter listening. I would have been though.

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>That would have been me for sure. That was not

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>even just it just in a bush somewhere, just fuck that.

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:20.879
<v Speaker 1>That would have just running. You could have put it.

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I think you could have put it on your back,

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what, strong enough.

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know what to do. I was like, do

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 3>I run? I ran next to it the whole time,

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>but I should have literally, I should have honestly put

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 3>it on my back. You're right. I just think in

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 3>that moment, I'm brain dead because of you know, the

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 3>whole day prior, and like you know, it was just

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 3>such a long thing that you don't you're not thinking correctly,

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 3>But you're right. I should have thrown it over my

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 3>shoulders and ran and asked for forgiveness later. It was

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 3>just too They should have showed the go pro it

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:50.439
<v Speaker 3>flew off and started like rotating circles around the handlebars

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 3>like that would have been the funniest go pro footage,

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 3>which just me cursing the whole way down. Honestly, I

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 3>think that you know, La World didn't beat me, the

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 3>scooter did.

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what we're gonna That's what whatever helps you sleep

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>at night, because you know that the shit like you

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.479
<v Speaker 1>go through challenges. I feel like everybody does it. We're

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>like that one elimination or that one moment, like we'll

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>keep you up at night for a little bit when

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you get home. Like fuck if I just did this

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a little bit differently, but it was impressive, like you

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>were just stucking down the butt water and.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Water oh well, I forget what she called it was like,

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>but dirty ass soup. I don't know.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>She was dirty ass Sorry, I'm sorry, dirty asshole water.

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>That's better either way. I just want to know what

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>was that?

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a vegan uh. I forget what it was.

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 3>I forget what exactly was in it. But you know how,

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 3>no matter they could give you like a filet, but

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna add like dirty asshole fish sauce to it

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 3>or something to make you gag and add that damn

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 3>fish as fish whale whatever to everything they gave you.

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 3>It was, whatever it was, did it burn? They probably

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 3>added that. No, it didn't burn. It was just like

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 3>a rotten milkshake. I don't know, with weird floaty things

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 3>in it.

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.439
<v Speaker 2>So so you got to choose between taking the shot

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 2>or drink air eating a cockroach, right? You didn't have

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 2>to do.

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Both, right, Yeah, you got to choose. And I'm like,

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not about to like rip ahead.

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>On that. Yeah, who in their right mind decided to

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 2>eat the cockroach?

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I just don't but and and and why and why?

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 4>Like and Ace is literally apologizing to it as I know, Like,

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, but I'm like, just drink the drink, dude,

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 4>even watching ripping them apart.

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>It was killing me even.

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Watching him struggle on his puzzle. He's like, I can't

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 2>really focus because I can only think about.

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>That poor little cockroach that I just ate.

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Like he's kind of cute, dude, that was sweet.

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 3>He's a genuine soul and you know what for all

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 3>like the like, like I said, this season, I'm not

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 3>gonna lie. It's hurtful to go back and watch all

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 3>the nasty things people are saying, But I think at

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, I'd like to put more

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 3>weight and people like Steve or Ace or Jay, like

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 3>those genuine good souls and what they have to say

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>about me than anybody else. So I really was thankful

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 3>to have. I mean, if someone like Ace didn't like me,

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 3>there'd be a problem, but like he really took me

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 3>in as a little sister. So I think that says

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 3>everything you need to know.

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I also think like especially with what we do,

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.240
<v Speaker 1>a million people could say something positive. Negatives just really

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>just stand out. And when you watch shit back, it's

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>like they jammed everything that happened in five weeks to

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>these episodes, and I think it it hurts more because

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just like everything.

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like an echo chamber two. You know, like if people,

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 3>like I said at the beginning, if people want to

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 3>justify the reasons why they're doing things, and they all

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 3>want to like dump hat on someone, it's easier for

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 3>them to like do that to feel better about their moves.

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 3>And when there's like a whole herd of them saying

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 3>the same things, you know, That's why I really look

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 3>at the source and the fact that, like you know,

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.320
<v Speaker 3>you have people like Steve, Ace and Jay just being

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 3>like the voices of reason and just being kind, good people.

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 3>That's who I put my weight in.

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as you should, and then be around the people

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:03.839
<v Speaker 1>that support you and lift you up.

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 3>And I did.

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Do you think if obviously you were saying, like Ace,

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 2>if he would have been eliminated, he probably would have

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>had to give the star back to Steve. But do

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>you think Steve would have potentially given it to you?

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Like obviously Laurel got blessed with her stars because her

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 2>friends got eliminated. But if it were to be reversed

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 2>from the other side, do you think you could have

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 2>caught a few?

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I honestly don't know, Like I can't

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I never asked them. You know, it wasn't even my business.

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 3>I just appreciated their friendship, so like I didn't. I

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 3>don't expect anything from anyone. I just know what I

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 3>would do. So it's neither here nor there.

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Laurel.

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Had you know, I'd think we're just gonna need another rematch,

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 3>that's all. She's really good, But I mean, it gives

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 3>me something.

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>To work for, rightde Listen, If ever, I think it's

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>better to go against people that make you fight, like

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>make you just bring out all of the grit and

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the shit. I mean, I get it. People want it

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 1>to be easy at the end, get it. You want

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to be against people you can beat. But I also

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>want to be against people I respect. Like damn, she

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 1>deserved that, Like you got it.

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:02.240
<v Speaker 3>She's a good competitor.

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 3>The emotional thing was definitely a struggle because me and

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 3>her weren't speaking going into the season at all. We

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 3>genuine rivals and we just live our own lives separately.

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 3>And when we walked into the season, she was kind

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 3>of her and Nicole were coming to me separately almost

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 3>as like you know, oh, I can't believe you know,

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 3>keep me away from her, keep me away from her

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 3>until they got back together, and it was kind of

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 3>an icky feeling I've you know, and now rewatching it

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 3>how brutal it was because in my reality, I was

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 3>protective of Laurel, you know, because she kept coming to

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 3>me crying. We all know what has happened since, Like

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 3>it was not a good situation for her, and I

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.839
<v Speaker 3>was feeling She's been with me through very bad situations

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 3>in the past, and I even though we weren't speaking

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 3>and it had nothing to do with the game, I

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:52.359
<v Speaker 3>was very protective of her heart, you know, like if

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 3>she ever saw me in a situation, it's almost like

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 3>she's the only one that can yell at me. No

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 3>one else can yell me, only she can, you know.

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>What I mean.

0:40:57.800 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 3>So anytime that I blew up, it was because like

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 3>every other day, she'd be coming to me crying and

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 3>then she'd be making out with Nicole, and I know

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 3>that it was to close a door or to finish

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 3>unresolved issues that were there, and I was trying to

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 3>be there for her, but then also to see what

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 3>she was doing behind the scenes, like when I tell

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 3>you hurt, and like it's just like it was a

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 3>very like I loved All Stars for the challenges and

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 3>for the connections that I made, But I definitely felt

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 3>looking back on it and seeing everything play out like

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 3>a little used and a little a little hurt over all.

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:34.720
<v Speaker 2>That it's definitely fair to say that watching it from

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.439
<v Speaker 2>just a viewers' perspective and not as somebody being in there,

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Like there were plenty of interviews where you were not

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 2>a positive talking point for people, so I can imagine

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.839
<v Speaker 2>it was probably really hard to watch back. But it's

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 2>just amazing to see how well you progressed through it all,

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 2>because you make it literally all the way to the end,

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 2>come in second place with literal one star advantage, and

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, you do have an incredible season, and you've

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>done some incredible things this season, Like you took out Rachel,

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>somebody you mentioned as one of the best in the game.

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 2>You went up against kill a Caam, you took her out,

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I know that, Like the feeling of you know,

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 2>sadness must live within you from watching these interviews, But

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 2>do you have like do you feel stronger in a

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>way or more confident after your performance this season?

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I do. I'm just a sensitive mush and I and

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 3>like on the inside. That's why my outer shell is

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:27.959
<v Speaker 3>so hard and so built up after all these years

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 3>of the challenge. It has a way of doing that

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 3>to me, and like I retreat inside of myself because

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I really am sensitive and I really am somebody who

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 3>if I'm loyal, I'm loyal literally to the bone, like

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 3>I have, like I root for for, you know, It's

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 3>like I'm happy to go to a final against the

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 3>strongest because if I can beat them, then it proves everything.

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 3>If it doesn't, then fuck, I want to try again

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 3>and be better. Like I don't. I'm not scared, and

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I never attack or throw the first stone, but I

0:42:55.719 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 3>definitely have like a really big retaliation. So if anybody

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 3>comes at me, because I am so sensitive inside, the

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 3>monster gets turned on. So I'm thankful for my journey

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 3>on All Stars because it did bring out the car

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 3>that has been missing for a long time, the one

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 3>that that was pinned in the corner, the one that

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, people started to root for because of like

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:22.439
<v Speaker 3>that's the Cara you know that people started rooting for

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 3>and I and I kind of lost my way and

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 3>so I had to go back, you know, be the

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 3>one that you know, all the odds are against me

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:30.359
<v Speaker 3>and I had to fight through it, and I'm very

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 3>proud of that journey and that does make me stronger

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 3>and that does bring me back to my roots of

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 3>who I am. And I will always say that I

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 3>do perform my best with my back against the wall,

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 3>like that is almost it's almost like I bring it

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 3>on myself so that I can perform better.

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even maybe you know, no, I get it,

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>totally get it. I've never said out loud, but I

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>get it. Yeah, but I think that, yeah, when there's pressure,

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 1>all you gotta do is fight your way now. And

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I totally understand that, and I think that that will

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>resonate with a lot of people.

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.839
<v Speaker 2>When you were in this like challenge, you know, like

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 2>just going back into it a little bit and getting

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 2>back into that state of mind, you know, you do

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 2>this overnight challenge, your mood has shifted a bit because

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 2>you know you wanted Laurel to hopefully not be in

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 2>the end of the final with you because she's such

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 2>a threat. She ends up being there and she has

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 2>plenty of advantages. And then you have to come to

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 2>this loop game. Was it in the back of your mind,

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 2>like I know you had mentioned before, you were kind

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 2>of telling yourself like if I think I can't do it,

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 2>then I need then I don't deserve to be here,

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 2>so I have to like really push through and try.

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 2>So you have that going on in your mind, and

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:34.839
<v Speaker 2>then you also have like, Okay, this is a big

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 2>battle to go up against. When it came down to

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.439
<v Speaker 2>each individual checkpoint, were you able to just wipe those

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 2>feelings away and just focus on the task at hand

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 2>or were you feeling a little distracted? And I am

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 2>also curious, like how far it was really kind of

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 2>hard to see watching it. What was it like actually

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>being there? Was there anybody that had a very clear advantage,

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Like was Laurel way ahead of you or was it

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot closer. I'm just curious like what it was

0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 2>like in real life.

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I one thousand percent it was focused. Like

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 3>as soon as the scooter was done, I was like,

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 3>full force, I can catch up. I just have to

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:09.320
<v Speaker 3>be very fast and very focused in every single checkpoint

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 3>because she gets to skip four of them. So and

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 3>I was actually really good, you know, with the puzzles

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.839
<v Speaker 3>and everything. I just I had Laurel in my sights

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 3>at all times because it was a loop. I didn't

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:22.879
<v Speaker 3>know where anybody else was, but she was the only

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 3>one that I was focused on. I was like, I

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:25.879
<v Speaker 3>have to catch up to her. I have to do it,

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, you know, we never know how

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 3>far we are, Like there's corn fields, Like I mean,

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 3>how do you know, Like unless you're right behind the person,

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 3>like you don't know how far you are. And I

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 3>just always felt like I was hot on her heels

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 3>and that I could if I could run really fast

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 3>and not walk for one second of this run or

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 3>of anything that I'm doing, if I can just be

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.920
<v Speaker 3>as efficient as possible and stay in it, I can

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 3>beat her. Like I felt that the entire time that

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 3>I was going to catch her. I even thought on

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 3>the run that I was going to see her and

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 3>just run by her, you know what I mean. I

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 3>felt that I don't know what the actual separation was,

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 3>but I do feel you know, I don't know what

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 3>the official time is. We'll never know that, but I

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 3>do feel like I was I was really close, like

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 3>way too close. Considering how many advantages there were, and

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.919
<v Speaker 3>I wonder what the end result would have been if

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 3>if the stars were not a factor, Like if we

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 3>actually were just playing. Yeah, I do wonder. I think

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.839
<v Speaker 3>I would have. I think I would have caught her

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:24.879
<v Speaker 3>a thousand. I know I would have caught her. I'll

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 3>just put that out there. I would have. I went

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 3>way too fast on all those puzzles, and if she

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 3>had to sit there through every puzzle, I just know

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.319
<v Speaker 3>that it would have been neck and neck, and then

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I would have passed her in the run because I

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 3>know she wasn't she was a little I don't know

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 3>if she was injured. I don't know what, but I

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 3>would have had that if it wasn't for the stars.

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 3>But it is what it is. That's why they call

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 3>it the challenge. You never know what's going to happen.

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 3>You can't control anything. You just have to play with

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:47.479
<v Speaker 3>the cards your dealt.

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>So you did this puzzle with no issues over and

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>over again.

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 3>I was pretty I was playing that right. No, I

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 3>was if I don't know. But the thing is there

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 3>was only one Had those squares had a picture on

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 3>the other side, I would have been fucked.

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>True. I would have been there.

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Ever, we all probably would have been there, like we

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't end. But it was the only frustrating thing. And

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 3>she was very smart skipping that puzzle every single time

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 3>because there was so many pieces. Yeah, it was like

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 3>you have to, you know, take out all the pieces,

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 3>resort it out, figure out what the thing is again.

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 3>And so it was more time consuming than me not

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 3>being able to figure it out because I figured that

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 3>out really quick and I was able to do it

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:33.799
<v Speaker 3>as quick as you could probably ask to do it.

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 3>But it still takes time that of course, you know,

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 3>if you have a star and you can skip it,

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 3>you're saving yourself. I don't know, three at least three

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 3>to four minutes, five minutes each time, maybe just thinking

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:46.720
<v Speaker 3>about how long it takes to take all the pieces

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 3>out and sort them out and refigure out how things go.

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I was also thinking about like even getting harnessed up

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 2>for that ring game, like Steve was the one that

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 2>messed up using it.

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 3>That's why I saved.

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did everyone just kind of anticipate on not using

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.479
<v Speaker 2>or using their starrup on that ring game?

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 3>That was the one that every single one of us

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 3>collectively were like, that's the star, that's what we're using

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 3>our star on. And Steve I think got distracted because

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 3>he never he was moving so fast and he never

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 3>used his star that he's like, oh good, I'll just

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 3>save my tour to the end and run, and he

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.399
<v Speaker 3>used it on the stupid build up pause.

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel it.

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 3>My heart broke for him. My heart broke from that's

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 3>a rough one to get over, especially after the season

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 3>that he had, how hard he had to fight to

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 3>get to the end there. Like I think me and

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Steve we definitely worked our asses off to get to

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:36.240
<v Speaker 3>the end of that final. Like, everybody had a different journey,

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, a good soul, you know, just by being

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.439
<v Speaker 3>a good person. He got given a star, Veronica got

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 3>given a star. You know, Nicole had to take a

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:50.240
<v Speaker 3>rope away from Jasmine. You know, everybody had their path.

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.240
<v Speaker 3>But I think the fight that me and Steve had

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 3>because of it being a harder road to get there,

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 3>I think we wanted that very badly, and so I

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:05.320
<v Speaker 3>can see how he's living and regret there with that moment.

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean it does suck. You can see

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that he just looks defeated.

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's done, but he's.

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Still he still did it. And then you I mean,

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you get you get second place, which isn't it's not first.

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:21.240
<v Speaker 2>I get it, but dude, it's amazing.

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, the two two women finished first, which is incredible.

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.799
<v Speaker 1>We knew that was gonna happen though, and well, but

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>then she also celebrated for you And yes, I know

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>she just won, but she didn't, you know what I mean.

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it still shows that like you can win, but

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>you can also like not be an asshole about it.

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 3>I think too, for her, she probably always feels some

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 3>type of way. I kind of always felt like she's

0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 3>felt some type of way about just making sure everybody

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 3>knew she was better than me, do you know what

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean. So in that moment, me coming in second,

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:55.879
<v Speaker 3>it was like, thank god, you know what I mean,

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 3>I beat her. I'm showing everybody I beat her. I'm

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.319
<v Speaker 3>happy about it. So as long as that can be

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:04.799
<v Speaker 3>put to rest, now we're great. And I'm you know,

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 3>she's still the biggest competition as far as a woman

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:12.320
<v Speaker 3>on the challenge, and you know, I'm gonna keep trying

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 3>to you know, every dog has their day and my

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, this dog does not have any fight, So

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:18.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna try.

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, car is gonna be You're gonna be on here

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.399
<v Speaker 1>when you're like sixty, Yeah, and you might. I mean,

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you're still gonna have impress you had them before, so

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really worried about that. I mean, I'm sure

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:33.759
<v Speaker 1>you'll win again. You know, it's just a matter of time.

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 3>I think by me, I think even though I didn't

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 3>get the technical first place this season, I still feel

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 3>like I won just because of my path and I'm

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 3>very proud of that.

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you see going into eliminations any differently, because

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I know that we've you know, you've talked on other

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 1>shows of like, yeah, you want to skip them, so

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you just go, you know, you want to avoid them.

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 3>It's on the grand scheme of things. Like in challenges

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 3>in general, there's winners that make it to the end

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.960
<v Speaker 3>with no struggle, you know, and they win that check, cash's,

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 3>they get the money, they get the crown, they get

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 3>the title, but they're not remembered. Some people are just

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 3>not remembered. And I think it's that fight that that

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 3>the viewers are like, Okay, how are they going to

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:16.960
<v Speaker 3>get out of the situation? Can they make it? And

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 3>like that brings it shows you, It makes you learn

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.359
<v Speaker 3>a lot about yourself, and it gives you something to

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 3>really be proud of at the end, and it lights

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 3>a fire into your ass because that wind means so

0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:27.359
<v Speaker 3>much more to you if you have to fight harder

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.879
<v Speaker 3>to get it. So so I've been on both ends,

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 3>you know. I've been on Vendettas and I didn't have

0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:35.879
<v Speaker 3>to see an elimination, you know, to get to the end,

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 3>and I won. And I've been on Bloodlines and I

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:42.280
<v Speaker 3>had to go in three eliminations against you and Lisa

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:44.840
<v Speaker 3>against Johnny. I actually didn't go in the one my

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 3>cousin had to go against CT like I mean, yeah,

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, and we got there. It was not an

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 3>easy path and we got there and we won. So

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 3>I've won in two different scenarios, you know. So it

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 3>can happen either way. But I really do feel like

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<v Speaker 3>me personally, the best way to get to a final,

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you're just trying to get that money

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<v Speaker 3>in that win is you don't want to see an

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<v Speaker 3>elimination because there's always a chance you could go home.

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 3>It could be a one arm bean bag toss like

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Polly had. It could be you know what I mean,

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 3>You never know what it's gonna be. You could train

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 3>your ass off and be the strongest person in the

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 3>whole world, and it's just not your day.

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 1>And you go on the first elimination and buy it

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>can happen to any people, tick tack toe against each

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:25.280
<v Speaker 1>exactly nobody.

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 3>You don't want to take the risk. If you're really

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 3>just trying to make that money and get to the end,

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 3>you don't that risk, you know. So I can't be

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 3>mad at anybody from making it to the end not

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:35.959
<v Speaker 3>seeing an elimination of winning. I've done it, other people

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 3>have done it, whatever. But I will say for me personally,

0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I almost it's almost like I need these eliminations to

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<v Speaker 3>light my fire and to show me what I'm capable

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<v Speaker 3>of and to make me stronger. So I don't fear eliminations.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it can be my day or it cannot

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 3>be my day. But I'm always going to leave my

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:59.359
<v Speaker 3>heart in the sand and give the best I possibly can,

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna welcome the challenge because there's no greater win,

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.880
<v Speaker 3>honestly than an elimination wind No matter what it is, like,

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:07.640
<v Speaker 3>the high that you get and the way that that

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:11.360
<v Speaker 3>propels you in the game is just it's priceless, amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really checks you, It really checks you back

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:17.840
<v Speaker 1>in I feel, yeah, it like it restarts your engine

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 1>every time you go in. I don't want to go

0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in a million more times if I ever do a

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>show again.

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 3>But like I already told you, Anissa, I'm gonna take this.

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 3>You want to go on that record, So it's fine,

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 3>I told you on the last I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, if we ever do a show again together, we

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>will talk. I mean I'm ready, I've.

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Been I mean i've been ready, so I know, you know,

0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:42.360
<v Speaker 3>let's hope. You know we're not getting another double sided

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 3>puzzle or some math, but you know, who knows, maybe

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:46.839
<v Speaker 3>that could be my day as well. Maybe maybe I'll

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 3>win a math bro beat us.

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 1>You beat you beat me at a puzzle underneath the

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.319
<v Speaker 1>thing getting hit in the head, getting hit in the

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.359
<v Speaker 1>head on thirty thirty and you were like, I hate

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.879
<v Speaker 1>puzzles and you killed that one, so yeah, it can happen,

0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 1>had CAA.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I was smashing your little head with I

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.760
<v Speaker 4>think they.

0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then Jenna was up there just pretending, you know,

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>we weren't smashing hard though.

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<v Speaker 3>I do remember though those times.

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Light Light Light Love tact. There's really wrong with a

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>light tat light lovehead. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so last question, I know you guys have mentioned

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 2>possibly you know if we were to see you on

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:26.719
<v Speaker 2>another challenge in the future, But do you feel like

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 2>you have any more left in Yukara? Are you going

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 2>to come back? Are you going to give the fans

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.800
<v Speaker 2>what they want? And do you want to take anybody

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 2>on from the newer competitors that came from season thirty nine?

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>You know it's wild.

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't look at anybody else when I go onto

0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 3>a season, like up to the point that like, I

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 3>don't you know what I mean? On when All Stars,

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I didn't make any phone calls. I surprised everybody and

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:51.719
<v Speaker 3>just showed up like I don't There's nobody else but me,

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:54.319
<v Speaker 3>And if I perform my best, then I think I

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.440
<v Speaker 3>can win. I've got the fight in me which I needed.

0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 3>And uh, it's fun to have someone like a Laurel

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 3>as a competitor there for me to look at and

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 3>be like, well, look how good she. I have to

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 3>like she is the standard to which I want to

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 3>perform and that that rivalry will always be there and

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:13.160
<v Speaker 3>it's just me. And then aside from that, I think

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:16.400
<v Speaker 3>it's just me against me. So I'm always ready to

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 3>compete and I'm always happy to bring on another challenge

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 3>and learn more about myself, and I just you know

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 3>even that the other thing I learned about myself is

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 3>even you know, on the Mudball Challenge, when Kim orchestrated

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:31.319
<v Speaker 3>the entire house to make sure that she got the

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 3>solution she wanted and to screw me basically out of

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 3>my Star, I was still able to laugh about it.

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Oh, this is what they're doing. Ha ha, Okay, funny.

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Like I've learned to just roll with the punches, take

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:44.719
<v Speaker 3>it on stride, and know that at the end of

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 3>the day, it's in my hands whether I go home

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:47.239
<v Speaker 3>or not.

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Yep, So spoken like a true champ for sure. I

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:52.640
<v Speaker 2>think that that's like the most noble way to go

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:54.879
<v Speaker 2>about it. And Car, you're a legend in the game.

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:57.759
<v Speaker 2>It's no secret. And I think all Star season, regardless

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 2>of the final outcome, it was a hundred percent yours.

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 2>You owned it every second of it, from the eliminations

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 2>to you know, the final, you crushed it. So I

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 2>think you should be really proud of yourself, and I'm

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 2>sure the fans are going to be super proud of

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 2>you too.

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Songrats on. All the car stands are so excited they're

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>getting their T shirts. A good show. Yeaes, you definitely did.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of show, where can the listeners follow you, show

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you love, support you socials?

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh, just Instagram for now it's miss car Maria. And

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 3>then my link is there to everything else, whether it's TikTok,

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 3>my my podcast, anything else I got going on in

0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:39.040
<v Speaker 3>my photography. Everything is in my Instagram, Miss Carmeria with

0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 3>my link.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're really happy that you came on and took

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.439
<v Speaker 1>time out of your day. I know that we're all

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:49.319
<v Speaker 1>quite busy. Yeah, so yeah, we appreciate it.

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks Kara.

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Alright, I got a pack.

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, we got to give it up for Kara because

0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 2>although we may not see eye to eye all the time,

0:57:02.719 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 2>she is truly an incredible competitor. She had such a

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 2>great season of All Stars, and it was great to

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 2>have her on the podcast.

0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely was nice to hear the taking a break

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>does benefit you and you can come back this newly charged,

0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 1>recharged human and go into a game and kill it

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and still feel okay about like all the decisions you made.

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>She made some cool ass friends, and I think that

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 1>she can take those good feelings with her throughout the

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 1>rest of her Challenge career.

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Agreed, she did not disappoint for all the car stands

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 2>out there. She put on an incredible show and I'm

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 2>sure she gained a few new fans along the way.

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.600
<v Speaker 2>And Anissa, you also have gained some fans along the

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 2>way because you absolutely crushed this season of the Challenge podcast. Congratulate.

0:57:46.400 --> 0:57:48.959
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Vookski you did too.

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:51.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, you had me cracking up. You had me

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:54.000
<v Speaker 2>having the best laughs and may have farted in my

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 2>seat a few times from laughter. I mean, like, I

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 2>just can't thank you enough for being my co host

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 2>because like you really it this season and it's always

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>a pleasure to work with you and you as.

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, Tory. Where can the people find you and support you?

0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 2>You guys can find me at Tory Underscore Deal on

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Instagram and please find me on social media because you're

0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 2>not going to hear me here anymore for a little bit,

0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:18.240
<v Speaker 2>but you may see me somewhere in the future, so

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 2>keep your eyes out and follow me on my Instagram.

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And Anissa, where can they find and follow you on

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Instagram as well? It's Anissa MTV A N E E

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<v Speaker 1>s A MTV. Yeah. All Starts four is officially over,

0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sad to say that because I really enjoy

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:36.520
<v Speaker 1>All Stars.

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes me too, I really do. Thank you guys so

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:42.280
<v Speaker 2>much for joining us for the last episode of MTV's

0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Official Challenge Podcast for this season. But don't worry, we'll

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:47.160
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