1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: kicks off, and my oh my, we are racked and stacked. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: We have a ton of news stories, breaking news, overnight news, 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: big news, all kinds of stuff here to get to. 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: First off, we have Gavin Newsom Glad I both enjoyed 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: this one, governor of California declining to back the proposed 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: reparations checks. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: You know, just he's super he's super. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: Committed to social justice and righting the wrongs in the past. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: But giving every resident of California who is black a 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: check for a million or two million, or whatever the 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: latest number is, that might be a little bit of 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: a problem for the budget, but he's super committed. We'll 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: discuss this in more detail. Also, a San Francisco supervisor 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: announcing legislation to limit the use of firearms by security 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: guards after an incident there where someone attacked a security 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: guard in the course of shoplifting and the security guard 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: shot the individual. So we will get into that story. Also, 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: Tucker went to Twitter and is had a big announcement. 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Want to share that with you, and also just what 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: this means for the overall media landscape, not I didn't 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,639 Speaker 1: want to say the conservative media landscape, really the free 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: speech landscape for the media, which is really critical, especially 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: going in this election year. I do think it's an 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: X factor we should take into account going into twenty 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: twenty four that there may be one at least one 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: major platform where you won't be censored because the psychotic 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: libs demand it. So we will discuss that Trump lost 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: a civil case in New York which we had told 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: you he's going to get a jury. They didn't go 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: all the way though, with all the charges. Will break 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: that down for you and to that. And we've got 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy joining us later on this hour from formerly 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Southern District of New York prosecutor, and Mariana Devine we 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: have joining us later on, and she'll also give us 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: all the latest. 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: As you know, she wrote Laptop. 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: From Hell, and she's following the whole Biden family corruption 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: story very very closely, so we can ask her where 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: this is going. She can weigh in on whether you 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: know whether Clay or I see this one more preciently 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: with the possibility of criminal charges right. You think we 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: don't want to get into this now because I want 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: to get into what Comer is talking about in the House. 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: But you think he goes that. 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: You think they charge him to the point where Biden 50 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: may have to pardon him. Right, this is the only 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: so we agree like ninety percent on this one. I 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: just think they're going to make it, you know, leanient 53 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: enough that he doesn't have to go to prison. Okay, 54 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: Well ask Miranda, she'll give us. She'll weigh in on 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: this in a second. But Clay, let us start today 56 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: with additional details of how corrupt the Biden family is. 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: This is the headline up on Fox Biden family received 58 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: millions from foreign nationals and tried to conceal the source 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: of the funds. This is from House Oversight and Accountability 60 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Committee Chairman James Comer of Kentucky. He's the one who 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: is running this running this committee right now, and let 62 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: me just put this out there. This is a quote 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: from from the memo put out by the committee. In 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: some instances, Biden association associates rather would receive significant deposits 65 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: from foreign sources into their bank accounts and then transfer 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: smaller incremental payments to Biden bank accounts. These complicated and 67 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: seemingly unnecessary financial transactions appear to be a concerted effort 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: to conceal the source and amount received from foreign companies. Clay, 69 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: why are so many LLC's unless you're trying to hide 70 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: the money. 71 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent of what was going on. 72 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: And I don't think it's coincidental, Buck, that you have 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: on the same day that these millions of dollars in 74 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: improper payments to the Biden crime family are laid out 75 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: by the House Oversight Committee. Are impartial and fair, and 76 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: I'm putting that in quotation. Marks, Department of Justice decides 77 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 3: to bring the hammer down on George Santos over relatively 78 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: minor in the grand scheme of things campaign finance violations. 79 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about thousands of dollars in misallocated 80 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: funds for George Santos versus millions for the Biden crime family. 81 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: I'll also point this out, Buck, Isn't it amazing with 82 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: what speed and alacrity the Department of Justice can move 83 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: with when they really want to bring charges against someone. 84 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: They've had the Hunter Biden laptop since December of twenty 85 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: nineteen and done so far as we can tell nothing 86 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: with it. Remember, we didn't even know about the Hunter 87 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: Biden laptop until October of twenty twenty, which we'll talk 88 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: about with Miranda Divine. But at that point, the FBI 89 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: had had the laptop for nearly a year and easily 90 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: knew all of the different crimes that Hunter Biden was 91 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: involved in. So how is it that they can George 92 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: Santos in his lies and misrepresentations only really became a 93 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: story in December, right, and now already he's got thirteen 94 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: different felony counts thrown at him. They brought the full 95 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: way of the Department of Justice against him. And again, 96 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: I think the people in Long Island should have the 97 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: ability in twenty twenty four to decide whether they want 98 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: George Santos representing them when they decide who the primary 99 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: representative is going to be in the Republican Party. I 100 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: think that's eminently reasonable in seven eight months, whenever that 101 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: campaign season officially gets underway. But this is small potatoes 102 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: compared to the incidents that Biden and his family are 103 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: alleged to be involved in. Pretty much dead to rights 104 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 3: based on the information that came out today from the 105 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: Republican House members. 106 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: You know, there are some yes or no crimes out there. 107 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: I remember talking to a friend of mine who was 108 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: a federal prosecutor in Georgia about this because I said, 109 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, there seems like there's so many of these 110 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: prosecutions for you know, possession of drugs, possession of illegal firearm, 111 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: depending something like that. I said, but there's always other 112 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: stuff that the person was doing. He goes, yeah, but 113 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: you have to understand possession crime, for example, or financial 114 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: crime also falls into this category. Depending on what you're 115 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: talking about. Is either it happened or it didn't happen, right, 116 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: it's a you know, red light, green light, and you 117 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: see that. That's why often with with drugs, the the 118 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: amount of illegal drugs, for example, somebody has, that's what 119 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: the prosecutors will go for. And it's harder to do 120 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: this sort of conspiracy and and even you know, an 121 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: intent to commit you know, or racketeering other things like that, 122 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: they can go for that, but usually they just go 123 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: for the highest readily provable count. Okay, in a case 124 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: like Hunter Biden's, as we've said, Clay, the money was 125 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: transferred or it wasn't. He declared it or he didn't 126 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: he paid taxes or not right, or or he did 127 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: not pay taxes. 128 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: That's it. There's not really much wiggle room on these things. 129 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: You remember from the show Billions. 130 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Remember in Billions when Ax, who's the billionaire hedge fun guy, 131 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: one of his guys gets into trouble for firing an 132 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: automatic weapon in his backyard at a deer. And even 133 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: Ax's political hatchet man is like, this is not a 134 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, did you get inside or trading thing. This 135 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: is a you have an illegal gun and you fired 136 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: it a deer in Greenwich, Connecticut. Right, So he's like, 137 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: I can't make this thing go away for you. The fact, 138 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just trying to get to your point here, 139 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: which is the fact that they've already moved against George 140 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: Santos on a whole range of wait what exactly, And 141 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: there's receipts but there shouldn't have or there aren't receipts 142 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: but there should have been. And then you look at 143 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: the Hunter Bidens, the hundreds still selling finger paintings at 144 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a pop. There's clearly a double. 145 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: Standard at play, not only a double standard, but also 146 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: the dollars at stake matter, and what if you presume 147 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: that everything they've alleged against Santos is true. It was 148 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: a low level hundreds of thousands peak right of dollars 149 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: that were being misallocated. And I'm not saying that doesn't matter. 150 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: It does, But the fraud that was perpetrated by George 151 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: Santos had almost no impact outside of George Santos. Maybe 152 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: he gets suits that he doesn't have to pay for, 153 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 3: maybe he's getting a little bit more money in his 154 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: pocket than he would otherwise have gotten. Again, relatively low level, 155 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: minor frauds, that's what's going on here. A couple of 156 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: these counts are like five hundred and twenty dollars in 157 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: misallocated funds. 158 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: I mean, that's two of the counts. 159 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: Is my when I'm reading through and looking at this buck, 160 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: I don't even know if you've dove into this yet. Again, 161 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: a lot of relatively minor in nature and degree. 162 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: As a result, Santos, this is from the indictment that 163 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: the Justice Department put out fraudulently received more than twenty 164 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars in unemployment insurance benefits. So that's like, 165 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, if we put him in prison for two months, 166 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: the taxpayer has lost money. 167 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: Just to be clear, Okay, I mean it's right, it's. 168 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: Again, I'm not saying that even if you accept all 169 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: of these things as true. Buck, this is what I'm 170 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: getting at comparing this to the multimillion dollar issues at stake, 171 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: where you're taking money from foreign adversaries potentially adjusting American 172 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 3: policy as a result. Santos was maybe cheating basically on 173 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: the taxes and. 174 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: The way that this thing was being applied. Well, let's 175 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 2: put this. 176 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: These are both federal cases. One hasn't one is indicted, 177 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: and one is still in the investigation phase. But they're 178 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: federal cases. The Biden crime family and George Santos. And 179 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: you sit here and you say, to your point, there's 180 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: some that they talk about, you know, false state wait, 181 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: false statements to the House of Representatives, which by the way, 182 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: they never like. That's the thing that's basically never charged. Okay, 183 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: No one lying to the House of Representatives is not 184 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: something that where's Fauci. 185 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: When we need him? 186 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: The unemploying unemployment insurance for us keep anyway, they're listing 187 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars year, maybe five thousand dollars there twenty 188 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: grand is the big count uh, and you look at 189 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden is taking millions of dollars and 190 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: on stuff that matters. This is from the Comer Committee quote. 191 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, through his associate Rob Walker, received more than 192 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: a million dollars from a foreign company reportedly controlled by Gabriel. 193 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: Some kind of Romanian name. 194 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: I can't even try that one the subject of a 195 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: criminal probe and prosecution for corruption in Romania. Then Vice 196 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: President Biden met with remaining leaders in twenty fourteen and 197 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen regarding corruption in the country. I want everyone 198 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: to understand this, Hunter Biden was taking money in a 199 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: corrupt scheme to subvert. 200 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: His dad's role in anti corruption in these countries. Yes, 201 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: can't make this stuff up. 202 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: And again, Ukraine and China involved probably the two most 203 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: significant in terms of foreign entanglements that have existed during 204 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: Biden's era. And I would come back again buck to 205 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: the timing on this. All of these details are coming 206 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: out on Biden. They knew it because this was a 207 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: scheduled event, and they decide to throw the book at 208 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: George Sandstos basically on the exact same day. I mean, 209 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: it is just clear to me political theater, and again 210 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: we'll get what someone's capable of. What is George Santos 211 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: as a freshman, freshman member of the House of Representatives, 212 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: newly elected, what is he able to do virtually nothing 213 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: right in the grand scheme of things Versus what Joe 214 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: Biden is able to accomplish. This is seismically different. 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The Clay Travis and buck 239 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: Sexton Show Welcome Back. 240 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: In Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, we mentioned the House 241 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: Oversight Committee, nine Biden family members received wire transfers from 242 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: foreign nationals via shell companies, adding up to millions of dollars. 243 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: Those nine members of the Biden crime family, Hunter Biden, 244 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: James Biden, Sarah Biden, Halle Biden, Kathleen Maybe, Haylee Biden, Sorry, 245 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: Kathleen Biden, Melissa Biden, niece, nephew, niece, nephew, grandchild. The 246 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: money was being funneled to nine different members of the 247 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: Biden crime family. And I know a lot of the 248 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: attention has focused on Hunter deservedly so because he provides 249 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: such an incredible roadmap to so much of what's going on. 250 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: But can you imagine, Buck, if there had been an 251 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: investigation for everybody out there, and we're gonna get so, 252 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: you know, Andy McCarthy's going to join us in about 253 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: seven or eight minutes and we will discuss this civil 254 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: case in New York, the latest on Trump's legal issues. 255 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: But can you imagine, Buck, if there had been nine 256 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: different members of the Trump family that were receiving payments 257 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: from Chinese interest through LLC companies in a shady manner, 258 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: particularly people who clearly aren't involved even in foreign transactions 259 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: in any way. Right, when you've got kids getting money 260 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: wired to them from foreign national interests, it's very different 261 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: than somebody who's at least involved in business. 262 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: You think, are the Biden grandchildren and perhaps you know what, 263 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: are we looking at great grandchildren? Yet are the grandchildren 264 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: advising Chinese companies on the Belton Road initiative and the 265 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: best way to expand into developing markets and utilize the 266 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: resources the natural resources they're in. I don't think so. 267 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: So why the money being deposited in those accounts? People 268 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: will will recall from different movies like the Wolf of 269 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: Wall Street. Remember one of the scams they had was 270 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: to buy stock. They would set up accounts. They actually 271 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: called them rat holes in the movie. They would set 272 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: up accounts in other people's names so that it was 273 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: harder to trace the insider trading that the individuals who 274 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: were doing. 275 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: The deal were involved in. 276 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: They would sell a deal and they would make sure 277 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: there was another account out there that had all kinds 278 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: of stock that wasn't in their name, that wouldn't be 279 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: attached to them. This is very similar. They're using layering 280 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: of LLCs to create an opaque structure for the disbursement 281 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: of funds that they don't want anyone to know about. 282 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Isn't are amazing what they accused the Trump family of 283 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: for four years, to the degree that the Washington Post 284 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: was writing emolument's clause articles about the burgers being served 285 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: with the Trump Hotel, I am not making that up. 286 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: It's like when a foreign national goes in there, when 287 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: an ambassador has a cheeseburger the Trump Hotel, that's an 288 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: emolument as if that's going to buy policy. But what 289 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: the Biden family is doing is what they accused wrongfully 290 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: the Trump family of and now we've got the receipts. 291 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: Remember I just said it today, It's all about where 292 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: the money goes. But the question I want to ask 293 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy, the big thing, the outstanding thing in my mind, 294 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 1: is is this really now? The tax evasions illegal? There 295 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: are stuff that there is illegality here, But is the 296 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: uh influence peddling illegal or is it just gross? 297 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 298 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: Also buck, if it occurs but nobody brings charges for it, 299 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: it's like a tree falling in the forest, right. 300 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: I mean, this is. 301 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: Why I would argue Republican attorney generals. I don't know 302 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 3: if any of these Biden crime family members have connections 303 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: to Red states, but they're going after Trump in blue states. 304 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: Why would a red state a not bring charges on 305 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: some of this information. 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That's MA and TX 326 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: dot com. 327 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: What else can you expect from a Trump hating Clinton 328 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: appointed judge will be appealing this decision. It's a disgrace. 329 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: I don't even know who this woman is. I have 330 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: no idea who she is, where she came from. 331 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: This is another scam. 332 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: It's a political witch hunt. You have a woman that's 333 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: financed and lied about it. 334 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: She totally lied about it by. 335 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 4: Democrat operatives, like just about the biggest one there is. 336 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: And she said that wasn't true. 337 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: They found that she lied about it, and the judge 338 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: wasn't even I guess letting. 339 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: It be put in as evidence. 340 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: The whole thing is a scam. 341 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: The whole thing's a scam. Trump says. This is after 342 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: he had a partial loss. Here in the verdict on 343 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: the e. Gene Carroll sexual assault and defamation trial in 344 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: New York City. We got Anny McCarthy with US now 345 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: of National Review, former federal prosecutor for the Southern District 346 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: for over twenty years. Andy, can you just give us, 347 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: first of all, always so happy that you can make 348 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: the time, fir ust, thank you. Can you just give 349 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: us the what is yours like? Talk to us about 350 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: this trial, the result, what this means. Just just break 351 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: it down for us. 352 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 5: Well, I just say as a trial, you know, as 353 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 5: a civil case, it's very hard in the context of 354 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 5: a civil case that goes to trial to beat something 355 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 5: with nothing. And what I mean by that is it's 356 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 5: an unlike the criminal system, where a defendant or an 357 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 5: accused has a right not to testify and the burden 358 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 5: is entirely on the government. In the civil system, the 359 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 5: burden is much lower. It's not proof beyond the reasonable dabt. 360 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 5: It basically is it's preponderance. It means like more probable 361 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 5: than not. But the other thing is there's an expectation 362 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 5: that everybody who's involved in the litigation, as a principle, 363 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 5: is going to testify, and if they don't appear and 364 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 5: don't testify, then the courts tell the jurors customarily that 365 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: they can draw negative inference from the failure to testify. 366 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 5: For you know that that if the person had an 367 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 5: explanation for what he's been accused of, he would have 368 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 5: taken the stand, And if he didn't take the stand, 369 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 5: that means he either didn't have an explanation or he 370 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 5: didn't want to be cross examined about whatever explanation he had. 371 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 5: That's a pretty powerful instruction. So you really rolling the 372 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 5: dice in a in a civil case if you are 373 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 5: going to be a litigant, and then you're going to 374 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 5: try to do it by not participating because it's a 375 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 5: low burden of proof, and the jury's going to be 376 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 5: told that if you had an explanation, you'd have got 377 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 5: on the you know, in the witness stand and given it. 378 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 3: Andy with that in mind, I was actually surprised they 379 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: didn't hit Trump harder here. They declined to find that 380 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: he had committed rape. Now they said sexual assault. But 381 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 3: they only hit him with a five million dollar verdict. 382 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: And I'm sure he's going to appeal that. But given 383 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: the potential range here, like I kind of thought they might. 384 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: But you don't know what the jury's gonna do. I'm 385 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: curious what you thought. I kind of thought we might 386 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: get a message sending verdict, even if it's one that 387 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: gets tossed out where they say, oh Trump raped or 388 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: and he owes two hundred million dollars right or something. 389 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: I talked about that on the show. 390 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 3: Given the potential outcome here, this doesn't even seem like 391 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: that bad of a verdict for Trump. 392 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 5: No, And look, I Clay, I tried cases in that 393 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 5: courthouse for you know, twenty years, so I was not 394 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 5: as down as a lot of commentators were on the jury. 395 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of people who and I 396 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 5: understand this because I kind of have a knee jerk 397 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 5: feeling about this myself. But you know, because it's Manhattan, 398 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 5: they're going to be against Trump. It's really not Manhattan, 399 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: it's the southern district of New York. So the jury's 400 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 5: drawn from you know, Manhattan, the Bronx, Westchester County. There's 401 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 5: a lot of people in New York and particularly outside 402 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 5: Manhattan who voted for Trump in the election. So, you know, 403 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 5: I was I didn't think it was a lock that 404 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 5: he was going to get a jury that had it 405 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: in for him. And I think what this jury did. 406 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: Number one, as you say, the damages here are not exorbitant, 407 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: they're you know, they're pretty reasonable given the kind of 408 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 5: damage awards we typically see in civil litigation anymore. And 409 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 5: the other thing is, I think they only went as 410 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 5: far in terms of what they found as they were 411 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 5: comfortable that that Carol had corroboration. And what I mean 412 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 5: by that is, you know, this thing, according to her, 413 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: happened twenty seven years ago. There wasn't any scientific evidence 414 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 5: or contemporaneous investigation that forensically could poor her account. But 415 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 5: the judge, applying the rules of evidence that have been 416 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 5: loosened up over the last couple of decades to make 417 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 5: it easier to prove sexual assault cases, he let these 418 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 5: two victim witnesses testify, and he let that is, two 419 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 5: others besides Carol who claimed that, you know, Trump had 420 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 5: sexually assaulted them, I think one in seventy nine, one 421 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 5: in two thousand and five, and he allowed them to 422 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 5: hear the Access Hollywood tape those two women, and like 423 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 5: the Access Hollywood tape, they talk about, you know, things 424 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 5: like inappropriate touching and groping. But there was no allegation 425 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 5: that Trump raped those women. And in as bad as 426 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 5: Trump's Access Hollywood tape is, he doesn't say that he 427 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 5: raped women on it. So I think what the jury 428 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 5: did was they believed that there was some kind of 429 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 5: encounter between Trump and Carol, but they were not willing 430 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 5: on her word alone, with no forensic evidence to say 431 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 5: that it was rape. They only went as far as 432 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 5: the other victim witnesses. 433 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: We're speaking to Anny McCarthy. 434 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: You know, Andy, there's there's a lot of legal stuff 435 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: going on, so you know, please keep our number handy 436 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: because we're gonna need to be talking about a lot 437 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: of things over the next few eighteen months or so. 438 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: But to that end, you know, the House Oversight Committee 439 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: right now that's looking at the Biden finances and what 440 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: seems to be very clearly a Biden crime family of 441 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: influence pedling. But even as I use that term. I 442 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: think to myself, well, tax evasion problem, right, money laundering problem. 443 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: These are legal things we all understand. Only influence peddling though, 444 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: I mean, if you were a federal prosecutor. Again, looking 445 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: at the facts as they've been laid out here, the 446 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: layering of LLC's money going to the grand children, Joe 447 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: is in office. People are taking money obviously for access. 448 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: Is what statue would that fall under? 449 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: Is it? 450 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: Is it politically gross but not as not necessarily criminal 451 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: influence pedling? 452 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: It could be buck, But can I tell you what 453 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 5: did with Manifort? What he His theory was that because 454 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 5: Manifort failed to register as a foreign agent under FARA, 455 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 5: the Foreign Agent Registration Act, where everybody's supposed to who 456 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: works for a foreign entity or a foreign person, you're 457 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: supposed to register with the Justice Department. Because Maniford didn't 458 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 5: do that, Muller's theory was that all the income that 459 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 5: he made in that connection was therefore illegal proceeds. And 460 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 5: what that means is, you know, for a money laundering case, 461 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 5: if it's your money and it's legitimate money, you're allowed 462 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 5: to you know, you can put it through however many 463 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 5: bank accounts and buy however many assets you want, but 464 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 5: if a prosecutor can prove that it's ill gotten gained 465 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 5: in the first place, then every time you move it 466 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 5: through another account or buy another asset, that's money wandering. 467 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 5: And that's a big deal because money laundering has you know, 468 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 5: heavy duty sentencing provisions because it's so often associated with 469 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 5: the organized crime and drug trafficking and the like. So 470 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 5: that's what Muller did to get Maniford over Barrel. He 471 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: basically said he didn't register as a foreign agent. All 472 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 5: this money came in, they floosed it through this account 473 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 5: in that account, Therefore it's all money laundering. So you know, 474 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 5: if I were a prosecutor now that that seems to 475 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 5: be the Justice Department's theory, that's the way I'd be. 476 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: Looking at it. 477 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: Andy does it, And that's really fascinating analysis. Does it 478 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 3: surprise you or seem untoward that on the day that 479 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: there is a scheduled press conference to lay out nine 480 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: members of the Biden family receiving payments from foreign nationals, 481 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 3: that charges are brought against George Santos and also building 482 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: on that, what do you think of the Santos charges 483 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 3: and what does it say about the rapidity with which 484 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice was able to bring charges against Santos. Meanwhile, 485 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: they had the Hunter Biden laptop for almost four years 486 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: now and haven't done anything at all. Does that strike 487 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: you as a pretty clear evidence of or at least 488 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: you know, you know, it's not just the appearance, it's 489 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: not just impropriety. It's the appearance of impropriety that is 490 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 3: so destructive and toxic. How would you analyze these stories. 491 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 5: Could Clay? I would say that time in terms of timing. 492 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 5: The Justice Department is always in control of the timing 493 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 5: of when somebody is taken into custody, particularly if it's 494 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 5: a non violent crime and you're doing with a public person. 495 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 5: So they obviously picked this day for a reason. And 496 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 5: it doesn't at all surprise me, how given how politicized 497 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: the Justice Department in this administration has been, that they 498 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 5: pick a day where they have another story out there 499 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 5: that they want to bury. And I would just just 500 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 5: add that, you know, I haven't had a chance to 501 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 5: go through the Santos charges yet, because I spent my 502 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 5: morning reading a second report that the House generated today, 503 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 5: two very interesting reports, not just the Biden money won, 504 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 5: but also how the letter by the fifty one former 505 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 5: intelligence officials came to be generated. The Jim Jordan Uh 506 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 5: and Mike Turner's committees generated a seventy page report this morning. 507 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 5: That's a fascinating report about how that all came to 508 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 5: pass and how Uh and this will be this will 509 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 5: be close to Buck's heart. But you know how these 510 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 5: guys took their national security credentials and basically hoard them 511 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 5: for parties and purposes to give Biden a response to 512 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 5: make to Trump at the at the debate when he 513 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 5: raised you know, Biden's corruption. 514 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 2: So that's that's what they did. 515 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: And Andy, you know, the the Federalist has The Federalist 516 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: has a story. I think it just went up last 517 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: night that this actually came from within the agency too, 518 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: not just former agency. 519 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's an interesting aspect of it. What it 520 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 5: looks like happened is at the same you know, they 521 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 5: had to put their letter. Morrell, who was the former 522 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 5: CIA director, who was the main writer or this, he 523 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 5: got it pushed through the part of the CIA that 524 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 5: reviews the people's writings before they go public to make 525 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 5: sure there's no classified information. 526 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: In the publication or view board. Yeah, exactly. 527 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so somebody else from the CIA at the same 528 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 5: time was having his book reviewed, and the CIA asked 529 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 5: them in that process, hey did you hear about this 530 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 5: other letter? Wouldn't you like to sign on? So he 531 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 5: and his wife, who were both former CIA agents, signed 532 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 5: onto the letter. And we don't know how many other 533 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 5: people were persuaded by the CIA itself, not just like 534 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 5: these former officials, but actually the CIA to get involved 535 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 5: in this thing, which is sheer politics. It's not anything else. 536 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: Where is all this going to? 537 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: I mean, have you ever seen so many different legal 538 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: machinations and craziness going on in our country and your experience? 539 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 5: No. I mean, you know, I thought the Trump days 540 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 5: with the Mallor investigation, you know, there was a lot 541 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 5: going on then too, and that seemed to be bumping 542 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 5: in all the time to a lot of congressional stuff. 543 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 5: But it does seem to me, Clay, when I get 544 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 5: to the end of the week, that there's no weekend. 545 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 5: I just feel like every single day something's exploding. 546 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: Joined the club. And I think one of the challenges, 547 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: Thank you, Andy, you do a killer job. One of 548 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: the challenges out there, Buck And we'll talk about this 549 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: some as we moved throughout the show. I think people 550 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: are just so overwhelmed by the amount of information it's 551 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: hard to even know what's going on on a day 552 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: to day basis. Look a lot of you out there. 553 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: You need food insurance. You probably have health insurance, hopefully, 554 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: probably have car insurance, probably have some of you life insurance. 555 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: Probably have insurance for your homes. 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Go to Mypatriot Supply dot com. 573 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: That's my Patriots Supply dot Com. 574 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: Subscribe to CNB twenty four to seven and never miss 575 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: a minute of Clay and Buck while getting behind the 576 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: scene access to special content for members only. 577 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 578 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: We got a lot of people who want to. 579 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: Weigh in a variety of different reactions to what's going 580 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: on so far, obviously big news day, we haven't even 581 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: gotten to the chaos that is rapidly unspooling at the border. 582 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: We will discuss that in the second hour, and also 583 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: again Miranda Divine, who broke the initial stories about the 584 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden laptop, will join us at the top of 585 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: the third hour to dive into that. 586 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: That's going to be pretty fascinating. 587 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: I just want to circle back every time we especially 588 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: these days, remember everybody, we had the Egen Carroll thing 589 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: that just came down, which I think now is that's 590 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: going to fade away into nothing. Although they're going to 591 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: say that Trump has now been proven in court to 592 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: be a sexual predator because of the sexual assault component 593 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: of it. 594 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: But there was no rape. 595 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: So but they were saying that anyway, to Clay and 596 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: I were talking about this offline. They've been saying Trump 597 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: is a rapist, you know, since the beginning of his presidency. 598 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: I don't believe that for one second. I don't think 599 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: any of you believe it. But the point is that 600 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: will continue. Okay, You've got Georgia, You've got the brag 601 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels payoff thing, the Georgia prosecution over the you know, 602 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: election interference, and then of course the special counsel am 603 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: I missing any by the way that there you know, 604 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: the marl Lago documents component, the January sixth component, there's 605 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot going on. But on the 606 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden thing, this is why having an actual former 607 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: federal prosecutor on I think is you know, and Andy's 608 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: very balls and strikes kind of guy, not just because 609 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: he loves baseball, but you know, he calls it like 610 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: he sees it. The notion of Manifort as a precedent here, 611 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: they went after Manifhort for money laundering based on the failure. 612 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: So the failure to register under far which is a 613 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: joke statue, created a criminal reason for hiding of the 614 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: funds coming in, which was then used for a money 615 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: laundering charge. 616 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 3: Dad applies to Hunter Biden as well, everybody. That's a 617 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: big deal. In theory, it would. But again the timing, 618 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: we'll take some calls in the next hour. Okay, let's 619 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: get back to these calls. Eight hundred two two two 620 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 3: eight a two. The challenge, Buck, And this is why 621 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 3: I want you all to understand what exactly is going 622 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: on on this show. We will talk about all of 623 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: the different criminal proceedings, civil proceedings. You guys in the 624 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 3: first hour have heard a detailed analysis of a lot 625 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: of them, huge percentages. New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC. 626 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 3: They have no idea that nine Biden family members were 627 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 3: revealed to have been taking payments from Romania in addition 628 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 3: to Ukraine and Russia all before. They have no idea 629 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 3: that happened. And it is not a coincidence. You heard 630 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: Andy McCarthy Hennet this, Buck, because I think this is signific. 631 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: They knew this press conference was coming in the White House. 632 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: They knew that many of these documents had Joe Biden 633 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: dead to write. So what did they decide to do 634 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 3: arrest George Santos on the day of this press conference. 635 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 2: It's a move the ball trick, and. 636 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 3: A huge percentage of the American public has no idea 637 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 3: what was revealed today because they're half the media isn't 638 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 3: even going to mention it. 639 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 2: It is. 640 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: It is amazing what they are able to do with 641 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 3: their propaganda media outlets. 642 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: People get people get frustrated, and they reach out to 643 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: me and they say, look at what they do, look 644 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: at how their side plays. Let's say, do you think 645 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: any Republican wouldever plan some kind of an arrest of 646 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: a corrupt democrat like this to cover up for a Republican? 647 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: And I got to say no, The answer is no. 648 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: We still we still play by gentlemanly rules in an 649 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: era where the other side is always hiding brass knuckles 650 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: inside of the boxing glove.