1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Mariors had a rough sort of ten game stretch, twelve 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: game stretch to start the season. Since then, they've been 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: one of the best teams in baseball, and I think 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: that's their expectation. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: All Right, we're back and Adam is with us. Adam, 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: great to be with you. Love the backdrop, very professional, 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: very nice. Adam does a great job covering the Mariners 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: and the Marinos of course for the Seattle Times. So 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: let's talk about these ms a little bit. Logan Gilbert, 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: we'll start with him. Adam has been diagnosed with a 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Grade one right elbow flexor strain and placed on the 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: injured list. Now, this is not something that Logan Gilbert 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: is familiar with, that whole il. 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: How serious is this? 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Mayors believe and hope that they've 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: dodged a bullet here. I talked to Logan on Saturday, 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: right after he wrapped up his MRI, and he's encouraged. 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 3: Obviously, he's frustrated. 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: He's never been on the injured list before in his 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: major league career. He wants to be out there for 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: his team. He's confident in this team. He wants to 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: be part of it. But this is obviously the best 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: thing for him, the best thing for the team at 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: this point. Shut it down for a couple of weeks. 25 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: They'll reassess see where he's at. I don't think the 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Mariners and Logan Gilbert out of the woods entirely yet. 27 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's a Grade one flexer strain, which 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: is encouraging. But you just never know with elbows, right, 29 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: if we've learned anything in this era of pitching, they're unpredictable. 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: You don't know. 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: So obviously the Mariners have their fingers crossed hoping for 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: the best. With Logan Gilbert. He's gonna shut down for 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and obviously you would expect at 34 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: least two three weeks to build up after that if 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: they deem yourself. 36 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: Enough to return. But I think it is an encouraging update, 37 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: at least at this. 38 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: Point, encouraging that everybody's flexer strain ends up being a 39 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: U See. I mean that's like you said, you said 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: he was encouraged. Did you bring any like not negativity, 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 4: but like the reality is that's like normally a precursor 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 4: to Tommy John and this guy's never been hurt. 43 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, and you hate to put it this way. 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: But you know, for a guy who has thrown as 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: many innings as he has over the last four years, 46 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: and throws as hard as he does and throws as 47 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: many splitters as he does, you wonder if it is 48 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: a ticking time bomb. And again, maybe this is a 49 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: precursor to something more serious. But the fact that it 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: was a Grade one and they were encouraged by the 51 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: images that they saw again is why they're walking away 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: at least a little bit encouraged. 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: Again. 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll reassess, take another image in two weeks and 55 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: they'll find out, you know what, it's not improving and 56 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: maybe we need to consider something more serious. But for 57 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: what we know at this point, the Marriers are at 58 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: least spinning a positive update on it. 59 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 4: I know it was just rumors, but now they're really 60 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 4: glad that it didn't get rid of Luis Castillo and 61 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: they were looking to shed payroll because of all the 62 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: extra spending that they've been doing. Is there a need 63 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 4: for them to maybe go and add some starting pitching 64 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 4: if this doesn't turn around. 65 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: For them, Yeah, can't rule that out, you know, with 66 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: the Mariners and the way they're constructed right now in 67 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: the prospect system they have. They want to have one 68 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: of the best and deepest farm systems in baseball right now. 69 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: So I fully expect them to be as active, if 70 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: not more active than any team come July. And we 71 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: were obviously eyeing a you know, middle of the order 72 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: type bat if one is available at that point. But again, 73 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: if George Kirby is not fully right at that point, 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: if if Logan Gilbert is still on the shelf, then yeah, 75 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: they certainly have to look at, you know, some sort 76 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: of proven starting pitching depth there. At the same time, 77 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: we saw yesterday another Logan Logan Evans, twenty three year 78 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: old twelfth round pick two years ago, comes up and 79 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: makes his major league debut yesterday, pitches five solid innings 80 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: against the Miami Marlins. He's another sort of hidden gem 81 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: that the Mariners have found and developed and looks like 82 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: a pretty good prospect for them. I think they're gonna 83 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: let him, let him go, give him a runway here 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: and see who can we can what he can do 85 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: while Logan while Logan Gilbert is still still on the Men, 86 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: but certainly rule that out. Again, I do expect Mayors 87 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: to be fully active this summer. 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: They expect to be in it. 89 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: It's a wide open AL West, It's a wide open 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: al overall, and I think the Mariners are are quietly 91 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: expecting that they're going to be in it throughout the season. 92 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 5: Here, Adam. Is cal Rawley the best catcher in baseball? 93 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 5: That's the question. I picked him. We did a thing 94 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 5: where we got to pick three players to start our 95 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 5: team with and he was one of my three. So 96 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 5: obviously I think he's if not one, he's one or two. 97 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 5: So is cal Rawley the best catcher in baseball? 98 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: I would defer to you on that, Aj, But I 99 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: was saying a year ago at this time that you 100 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: know he's right there as the best two way catcher 101 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: in baseball, and now I don't think you need to 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: qualify it as two way. 103 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: I think he's right there. You obviously look at Will. 104 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: Smith and his track record with the Dodgers, Contreras in Milwaukee, 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: Real Mutto Orioles obviously have a special one there too. 106 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: But what cal Rawly is doing defensively I think puts 107 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: him over the top. When the Platinum Glove last year 108 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: in the American League and then signing that Contra, just 109 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: what he means to this pitching staff beyond just the defense, 110 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: the way he commands his pitching staff. There's a reason 111 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: these guys have been so good the past couple of years. 112 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: A lot of reasons these guys have been so good, 113 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: but certainly cal Rawlely is near the top of the list. 114 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: These guys don't shake off cal Rawley, and if they do, 115 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: they hear about it, and if they do, cal Rawley 116 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: is not giving them another option at that point. It's 117 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: actually pretty entertaining sometimes when some of the young pitchers 118 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: try to try to shake him off or want something else, 119 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: He's just not having it. 120 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: So he's earned that trust's and now he's. 121 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Doing it with the bat consistently too, leading the majors, 122 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: tied for the Major League League and home runs. He's 123 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: always had that slug. I think the goal for him 124 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: this year offensively was to cut down on his strikeout 125 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: right a little bit, get on BASEI a little bit more, 126 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: be a tougher route with two strikes, and we are 127 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: seeing that so far here in the first month. To me, 128 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: he really has elevated himself into that next territory. 129 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: He's certainly making the most of that extension that they 130 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: gave him. Right before the season started, Adam, I will 131 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: see your cal rawly all rate you and dress munos 132 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: to see the best reliever in baseball. We don't talk 133 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: about him enough, should we be. 134 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's kine of the that's just his personality. He's 135 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: really is one of the nicest guys in effect. As 136 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: we talk right now, I think he's doing a charity 137 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: event at a local animal shelter. He loves cats, and 138 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: he's raising awareness and doing something for cats here locally 139 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: in Seattle. And he's just genuinely one of the nicest 140 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: human beings that I've been around. I have no problem 141 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: acknowledging that. Just a genuinely sweet, likable, lovable guy. And 142 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: then he can throw a hundred miles per hour with 143 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: a nasty sinker, and then maybe the best slider in 144 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: baseball as well. It's not allowed to run here. On 145 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: his first fourteen appearances of the season, you look at 146 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: his baseball war he's right there with the top of 147 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: all pitchers, not just relief pitchers right now through the 148 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: first month. 149 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: Of the season. 150 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, to me, a guy who's been underrated the 151 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: last couple of years, probably because he's pitching in Seattle, 152 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: But to me. He has absolutely elevated himself into that 153 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: top tier class of relievers. 154 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 6: If you want a razor that looks good, makes you 155 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 6: look good, gets the shave done, and doesn't cost much. 156 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 5: Uh oh oh. 157 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: Is it nice? 158 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: That's a Harry John and you can smell it too, 159 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 4: smell it. Oh wow, that's Harry's. That's the shavejel. 160 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. 161 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: Look, I mean, you look. 162 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 5: Scary. 163 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: Man shut fresh, come in, come, in, come and get 164 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: I don't want to touch. 165 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 6: Oh my god, looks like German engineered blades made in 166 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 6: their own factory that stays sharp longer. 167 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: I'm using the razor and it does not. You can 168 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: start to feel when it gets dull. I mean, you 169 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: guys only do like here and like up here. I'm 170 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: doing Acreach. Get the edge on your shave with Harry's. 171 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: Normally their trial set is ten dollars, but right now 172 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: you can get it for just six dollars at harrys 173 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: dot com slash foul. That's our exclusive link harrys dot 174 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 4: com slash foul for a six dollars trial set. Anytime 175 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: we ever talk about Seattle's offense the last few years, 176 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: we say they're strong up the middle cal Raley, JP Crawford, 177 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: Julio Rodriguez. All three guys are signed to an extension. 178 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: The first one was JP Crawford. Is he the catalyst 179 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: for this team? I know he's hitting ninth and so 180 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: it's hard to be like a catalyst when I watch 181 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: this team. And I don't watch as much as you 182 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: watch or people on the West Coast watch, but I 183 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: watch a lot of games. I feel like when he's 184 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: not in the lineup, when he's injured, like last year 185 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: he's injured for part of the year, when he's out there, 186 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: something about him and the way he runs around the 187 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: field with energy, it makes me feel like he's the catalyst. 188 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: Am I right or wrong? 189 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? He won a Gold Glove I think in twenty twenty, 190 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: and the defensive metrics don't love him because I don't 191 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: think he particularly is particularly strong going to his right. 192 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: Everything else, he makes every single routine play and I 193 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: don't think you can say that about anyone. 194 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: And I'm not picking on Ellie J. Lacruz, but the 195 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: Marriers played there last week. 196 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: I saw Daily Cruz for Again, it's only three games, 197 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: but I saw every play for three games, and I 198 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: would take JP Crawford defensively in a heartbeat over Ellie 199 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: day La Cruz. I know he makes those miraculous catches 200 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: and pop ups and has all these highlight plays. JP 201 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: Crawford is the steadiest shortstop I think I've ever seen 202 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: at the major league level over a long period. He's 203 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: the best I've ever seen coming in on ground balls. 204 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: He makes that play every time, he makes it look easy. 205 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 3: Those aren't easy. 206 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: And then you add in what he's doing again offensively, 207 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: he gets on base as well as anyone in the 208 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: American League right now, over four hundred on base. He's 209 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: got a great eye. That's exactly what you want at 210 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: the bottom of the lineup. He's not going to give 211 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: you a ton of home runs, but I think he's 212 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: playing a lot freer right now. I think he's learned 213 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: from Edgar Martinez, Kevin Sitzer. Just up the middle, opposite 214 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: field approaches is that's who he is at this stage 215 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: of his career. He doesn't need to drive a ball 216 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: to the ballpark. Just be a tough out, be it 217 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: tough at Matt, get on base as much as you can, 218 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: and he is really valuable in that regard, and especially 219 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: valuable for this team doing that at the bottom of 220 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: the lineup, Adam. 221 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 5: I hate to even mention this because it's it's just 222 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 5: low hanging fruit, it seems like. But they got rid 223 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 5: of Scott's Service last year and we had just had 224 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 5: Scott on. He was a great interview and he knows 225 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: the game inside and out. Did that make a difference 226 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: getting him out and having Dan Wilson come in? Because 227 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: last month they were better. Now they've carried it over 228 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 5: into this month, especially offensively, So does it make that 229 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 5: big of a difference. And I don't want you to 230 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 5: take a shot at all at Scott Service, But is 231 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 5: it just the fact that maybe it was a different 232 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: voice saying maybe the same thing but a different way. 233 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is something to that against Scott Service. 234 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: I thought he was exactly what this organization needed at 235 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: the right time. He really provided a ton of stability, 236 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: got them to the playoffs in twenty twenty two, ended 237 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: that pretty historic drought, and I think he was a 238 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: great manager. Honestly, I think he was really underrated. I 239 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: think he got a bad rap for some of his 240 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, bullpends making stuff. Obviously those things are easy 241 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: to second guess. For Monday morning quarterbacks. But I thought 242 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: he did a really really good job for this organization 243 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: for a long time. That said, they just got to 244 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: that point last August. It was two months of pretty 245 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: bad baseball. They blew a ten game lead, and I 246 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: think we could all kind of see it coming. I 247 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: didn't think it was gonna happen when it did. But yeah, 248 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: to your point, I think a change of voice, a 249 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: little bit of a change of tone sometimes can do 250 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: teams wonders, and I think it did for the Mariners. Really, 251 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: what's happened is they've really just simplified things. I think 252 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: I dan Wilson as kind of the ultimate throwback type manager. 253 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: He was, you know, he played for Lou Banella. 254 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: You think of Lou Panella and his style obviously, you 255 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: think of him throwing bases and blowing up on umpires 256 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: and all the drama, and you know, he was a 257 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: fun guy to be around in that regard. But he 258 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: got the best out of his players every night. And 259 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what Dan Wilson took from Lou that 260 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: he just wants these guys to show up and compete 261 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: every single night. Win this pitch, when this at bat, 262 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: win this game, worry about tomorrow tomorrow, and I think 263 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: that's the right message at the right time for this team, 264 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: especially for some of the young guys on the team. 265 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: Julio in particular. Just get in the box and compete. 266 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about a specific pitch in 267 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: a specific zone, in a specific count, which is what 268 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: the Mariners were doing. 269 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 3: I felt like at times. 270 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 1: Last year they got too deep in the woods, in 271 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: the weeds offensively, and guys were thinking too much in 272 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: the box. 273 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: You can almost see their heads spinning a little bit 274 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: when they step in. 275 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Now we're seeing guys just hey, just the line, drive 276 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: up the middle, if you get something hanging, drive it 277 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: out of the ballpark. And it's working again. I think 278 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: they're third in baseball right now in home runs. You 279 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: got Cal Rawly, you got Jorge Plonko, we haven't mentioned 280 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: his name yet, off to a career start to his 281 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: season here, and it is working again. I think Scott 282 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: Servers was the right guy at the right time, and 283 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: it does feel like the early returns with Dan. 284 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: Wilson or he's the right guy at the right time 285 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: to kind of help this team in this organization take 286 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: that next step. 287 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: Adam, is this no, sorry, go ahead, guys. 288 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 4: Oh no sorry. Another name that you didn't mention was 289 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: Player of the Week last week. And Dylan Moore, who 290 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: has been doing really well and consistent at bat. So 291 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: you're talking about taking those line drives, do you think 292 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 4: or I should say, who is most affected by Kevin 293 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: Sitzer and bad Bobby Maggian is coming in and making 294 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: this change, Like have you seen a drastic approach change 295 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 4: where it's like, not pull hook balls, take the ball 296 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: to the opposite field. 297 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 298 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: I put JP and Dylan Moore at the top of 299 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: that list for sure. Dylan Moore and I talked to 300 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,119 Speaker 1: him about this. I was like, when I think of Dylan. 301 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 3: Moore, I think of a straight, pull a ball in 302 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: the air hitter. 303 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: He's a guy who doesn't have a ton of pop, 304 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: but he's got good pop for a major league hitter 305 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: and for a super utility type guy. He's kind of 306 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: got the most out of his talent and athleticism. And 307 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't mean that in the meaning way, Like he's 308 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: made himself a legit major. He won a Gold Glove 309 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: last year. He's been super valuable for this team because 310 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: he can virtually play every position on the field and 311 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: then be a guy who crushes left handers. This year, 312 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: I think he went into spring training they worked with him, Hey, 313 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: you're strong enough, you're good enough to be able to 314 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: hit the ball up the middle and hit it to 315 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: right field too. And I thought it was telling. In 316 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: the first homestand he hit a home run at Teamable 317 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: Park in Seattle too, straight away right field, something he'd 318 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: never done in his career before. And then I think 319 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: his first series on the road in San Francisco, he 320 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: hit one out straight away center field too. I'm like, okay, 321 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: this is different, and he saw it start to click 322 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: for him pretty quick, and it's carried over and again. 323 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: He's a guy who they feel comfortable enough where he 324 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: could be an everyday guy at second base, maybe even 325 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: third base. 326 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: But he is so good plug you can plug and 327 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: play him anywhere. He's valuable coming off the bench. He's 328 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: a great pinch runner, great pinch hitter. 329 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: That's the type of guy you see the Dodgers employee 330 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: for so long now and make best use of, really 331 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: find that matchup advantage somewhere, and he provides just so 332 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: much for the Marriers in that regard. And this is 333 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: again I talked about a guy off to a career year, 334 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: a perfect time for him. He's gonna be a free 335 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: agent after this year, and I think he's making himself 336 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: some money too, So good for Demo Adam. Before we 337 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: let you go? 338 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: Is this the year that the Mariners should shine? I mean, 339 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: the Athletics aren't doing anything. Houston isn't the same powerhouse. 340 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: The Rangers aren't in anyone's top power rankings or anything 341 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: like that. Is this the year the Angels are angeling? 342 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 343 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: Angels? Yeah, aren't they? 344 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 345 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: Again? 346 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: I think we all thought it'd be the Astros, the Rangers, 347 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: and the Mariners kind of jockeying for position in the aos. 348 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: It's played out that way so far. 349 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: Mariners had a rough sort of ten game stretch twelve 350 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: game stretch to start the season. Since then, they've been 351 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: one of the best teams in baseball, and I think 352 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: that's their expectation, you know. I know people were frustrated 353 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: Mariners fans were frustrated about their lack of moves and 354 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: lack of spending in the offseason. Frankly, I think that 355 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: was all legitimate, But I think the Maners were quietly 356 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: pretty confident that you know, if a healthy whore Heye, 357 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: Bolonco is able to bounce back. If they can get 358 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: Julio just kind of on track a little bit earlier 359 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: this year, and I think there are some signs despite 360 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: his little batting average, I think there's some signs that 361 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: that Julio could be could get right sooner than he 362 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: typically does. And then they're pitching obviously that they're not 363 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: as healthy as they have been right now, but I 364 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: think they're pretty confident in just their operation, no matter 365 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: who they have out there, that they're going to get 366 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: some results pitching wise, pitching in Seattle in particular. So yeah, 367 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: I fully expect the Mariners to be there at the 368 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: end of They get the best team in the American 369 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: League right now, or they can be the best team 370 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: in the American League come September. 371 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think they're going to be 372 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: in the mix. 373 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: And I think Jerry Depoto has proven that he's not 374 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: afraid to take a big swing come July. He got 375 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: Luise Cassio a few years ago, he got Randy or 376 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: Roseina last year. He will deal a big time prospect 377 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: if it's the right person at the right time, And 378 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: to me, that's makes them a really fascinating follow if 379 00:16:59,440 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: nothing else. 380 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 5: Okay, two things, one nobody can hit and seattle. So 381 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 5: you're giving them way too much credit because I mean, 382 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 5: eventually the batter's eye is going to go slant it 383 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 5: and we're gonna have to hear about. 384 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: Oh the Mariners can't en. I mean all of a 385 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: sudden they can it. 386 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 5: It's weird how you change your approach and stop trying 387 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 5: to hit home runs on every pitch in a park 388 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: that's not gonna do some to home runs. Strange how 389 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 5: that works out. But also Julio Rodriguez you mentioned it. 390 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 5: Why does he always get off the slow starts every year? 391 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 5: It's like, oh, you need Julio to get started. I mean, 392 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 5: and then they're like, last year he changed his swing 393 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 5: and he did this and he finds someing that works. 394 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 5: Just stick with it and go into it with the 395 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 5: next season. Why do we got to try to change everything? 396 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 5: And why is it cold? 397 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: Is it? 398 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: What is it with Julio that it takes him till 399 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 5: May or June to get going? 400 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 401 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: I think if I had the answer, Yeah, I just don't. 402 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: The Mariners clearly don't have a great answer for that. Either. 403 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: You can check my email inbox right now too. Mariners 404 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: fans are asking the same thing, Aja, I'm hearing it. 405 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 3: All the time. 406 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: I think the frustrating thing for the Mariners and Mariners 407 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: fans is it feels like the same thing over and 408 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: over with Julio at this time of year. Just a 409 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of chase, a lot of sliders off the plate, 410 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: and you know he's not making those adjustments. 411 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: I will say, talking to people, even talking to Julio 412 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: a little. 413 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: Bit, to me, he does feel like he's in a 414 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: better headspace right now than he has been early the 415 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: past few seasons. He's hitting the ball harder than ever, 416 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: particularly early in the season, like a significant jump two miles. 417 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: Per hour average. As at the Filo. His babup is 418 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 3: really low right now for a guy with. 419 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: His athleticism his speed, I just can't imagine his babbit 420 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: is gonna stay around two twenty the entire year. So 421 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: we're used to seeing him picking him up, pick it 422 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: up after the All Star Game, and like I said, 423 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: I think there are some real signs, particularly his smike 424 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: in his walk right right now, that that breakout's gonna 425 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: happen a little bit sooner again, Mariner fans just gonna. 426 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: Have to be patient. 427 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: We're all gonna have to be patient till it comes. 428 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: But he's too good to stay down this long, if. 429 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: That makes sense. 430 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: All right, Adam, appreciate the insight, great stuff. Appreciate you 431 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: coming on Foul Territory for the first time. You're a 432 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Foul Territory newbie. Hope to have you on again. You 433 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: can catch Adam and read his stuff on the Seattle Time, 434 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 2: so we appreciate it. Have a good day. 435 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.